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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, March twenty at twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number very first number one. You know, it's the

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Speaker 1: beginning of a new year, and I got it all

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Speaker 1: makes sense. What'd you guys get to before you we got?

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Speaker 1: of course I'm back. So the show is now going

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Speaker 1: to be really, really great. So I'm glad you guys

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Speaker 1: tuned in today. Here's some of this good talk on

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Speaker 1: Cowboys football, and we've got some stuff to talk about

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have gotten a little busy this week in free agency.

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Speaker 1: There are three players that have been in the building.

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Speaker 1: One at the Cowboys have signed this week and now. Actually,

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Speaker 1: there are a couple of other guys that have been signed.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into some of those a little bit later,

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Speaker 1: but I want to start first with the big signing. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys agreed to terms with Randall Cobb, wide receiver from

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. They signed him to a one year,

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Speaker 1: five million dollar deal. He is an eight year vet

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Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. His best season was in two fourteen,

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Speaker 1: where he had ninety one catches, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: seven yards twelve touchdowns. Phenomenal year. However, he's missed only

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Speaker 1: eleven games in the last three seasons. It's not horrible,

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Speaker 1: but not great. And in twenty eighteen had nine games

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Speaker 1: that he played, six starts, thirty eight receptions, three hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty three yards, two touchdowns. Why they're dropping two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, let's start there, well as I'll go ahead. Sorry, Well,

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Speaker 1: the team wasn't very good either, I mean, like, um,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers dropped, I mean a lot of I mean

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Speaker 1: that they had issues obviously, we're, as Parcels would say,

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Speaker 1: So I don't really know exactly what was going on there,

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Speaker 1: but I know that their team wasn't as good and

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Speaker 1: and you know that's Randall Cobb has been a really

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Speaker 1: good player for for that team and on a great

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Speaker 1: quarterback and with a great quarterback. Uh so when when

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Speaker 1: he has has struggled and you know, they've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of dysfunction, it seemed like with the offense and

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Speaker 1: hoop pointing fingers and all that. So uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was a good role player and it all kind

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Speaker 1: of went down and so um, but he's still those

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns, one of them I believe was a seventy

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Speaker 1: So he's got some down field production that's that you

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Speaker 1: don't we haven't seen from a slot receiver. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: started the opening day with him, and I mean they've

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Speaker 1: then as you go through this season, you know there

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't drop many passes. I mean, Nick's right.

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Speaker 1: But it just he's still when you watch him play,

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Speaker 1: that on an injury report. So it's something to watch.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he can shake it. But the year the year

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Speaker 1: his comparison to Cole Beasley. Brian just kind of started

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Speaker 1: do you think it's it's less than you had before?

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Speaker 1: And why? I think it's very similar to what you had.

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Speaker 1: to make sure. He's actually a pretty good red zone

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Speaker 1: player too. Now, again, Cowboys don't use red zone receivers

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Speaker 1: very much since des Brian has walked out of here.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, I think Cole Beasley is a

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Speaker 1: Ranald Cobb's health is going to be a big part

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Speaker 1: of this. If he can't get on the field, it's

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter. But you're talking about a guy

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley's not doing that. He never did that in

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Speaker 1: his career. UH twenty thirteen Hail Mary to beat the

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Speaker 1: Bears to make the playoffs, gets behind the defense and

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Speaker 1: catches a sixty five yard bomb to win the game.

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley did that once in his final regular season

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Speaker 1: game with the Calvins catch on a broken play. He

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Speaker 1: didn't catch any balls in the playoffs at all. No,

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Speaker 1: that's that's not Cole Beasley's game. Randall Cop can do

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Speaker 1: they can both go downfield. It's gonna it's gonna hinge on.

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Speaker 1: I mean the downfield stuff gets covered with him. That's

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Speaker 1: sure it does. I mean he can. The separation for

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Speaker 1: When you watch him play, his ability to he has

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Speaker 1: the same ability as Cole Beasley is to spin receivers

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, to spin the corners, you know, to

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Speaker 1: his route right, it reminds me of like when you

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Speaker 1: all the same speed, it's not there's not any kind

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Speaker 1: I think, when you talk about extended speed down the field,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely not suggesting that I am. I am saying

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Speaker 1: I think, would you agree he poses a more realistic

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Speaker 1: eighteen yard range absolutely, Because there's times when you watch

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Speaker 1: speed is not and that's but you watch cool Beach.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are like, eh, we're not paying what the Dolphins

425
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Speaker 1: are asking for, sorry, or we're not paying the contract

426
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Speaker 1: that yourself. So yeah, there's a lot. There's two factors

427
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Speaker 1: to it, right, absolutely. But also I think what some

428
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 1: of this is is and Marinelli was got a chance

429
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: to meet with them, and I know some of the

430
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Speaker 1: other coaches did as well. If you if you like him,

431
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: you like really what he can bring, you know, maybe

432
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 1: this isn't a one year thing. Maybe it's like, all right,

433
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: well you trade for you and he's supposed to make

434
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Speaker 1: eleven million, and maybe you give him eleven million over

435
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, up front, and then over maybe a two

436
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 1: to three year deal. I don't know. Yeah, smart thing

437
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: by Chris Career down there, the general manager from the Dolphins.

438
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, he realizes that he's in a scheme change.

439
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: And if you look, the reason why that Quinn get

440
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins was because of a scheme change and

441
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: in the rams. So he's just trying to facilitate, you know,

442
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: getting rid of some salary, but also maybe getting a

443
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Speaker 1: pick out of this thing. So smart move on. When

444
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: you say schemes change, explain for the folks, Well, schemes change. Yeah.

445
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, he went from for three under Jeff Fisher

446
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: and had great success and then all of a sudden,

447
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: way Phillips comes in. They try and make him a

448
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: stand up outside linebacker. You know, he's a wide nine

449
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: outside taching on the ground, hand on the ground and

450
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: go get I mean you can watch him play Tyrn

451
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: Smith and there's a trouble for Tyron Smith in a

452
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: lot of those games. So yeah, he goes to Dolphins.

453
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: You got Brian Flores is now the coach New England. Okay,

454
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 1: here we go. It's the same thing that happened with

455
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Speaker 1: Hyder in Detroit. All of a sudden, he's playing as

456
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: an under tackle and they get to a three four front. Okay,

457
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: he now playing a nose. It's not good anymore. So

458
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: they can you can move on from guys that way.

459
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Speaker 1: And so I feel like the team I was worried

460
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: about was the Saints. But I'm kind of getting a

461
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: buzz that the Saints really might not be interested, that

462
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: this might be just something that they look they're looking.

463
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: They're kid, Yeah, they're kicking the tires. So let's see

464
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: if that if that happens, but if you can work

465
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Speaker 1: a trade, I think this is a great move for

466
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because I think it gives them a little

467
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: bit more leverage in the DeMarcus Lord's potential signing. If

468
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: you ask me, I think it's a great move for

469
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. You can go back multiple years,

470
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: like this is the type of stuff I've been begging

471
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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to do. I don't want you to

472
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: give Earl Thomas fifty million dollars. I want you to

473
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Speaker 1: trade a twenty twenty pick and take on a little

474
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Speaker 1: bit of salary and of you know, at a former

475
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Speaker 1: first round pick, a veteran who like he had a

476
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: quote unquote bad year last year and still had six

477
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Speaker 1: and a half sacks, which would have been second on

478
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Speaker 1: this team. Yep, right, bring that guy in. It reminds

479
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: me of the Timmy Journagin trade. I bring that up

480
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: all the time. Eagles moved back in the third round.

481
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: You know, ten spots and get this badass defensive tackle

482
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: who goes lines up next to Fletcher Cox and makes

483
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: their defensive line that much better on a Super Bowl

484
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: run Like these are the types of moves that smart

485
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: aggressive teams doing free agency. You know, the salary makes

486
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: me curious because I wonder what they'd be willing to

487
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: pay him on top of giving up the pick. But

488
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Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. I really hope they

489
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: pull that one off. I think especially and you say

490
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: it will give him leverage with Lawrence, I say it

491
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: gives him a right end if Randy Gregory can't play right.

492
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I look at it, but I look at

493
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: it is this way if it becomes an impass at least,

494
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: you know you have somebody that can rush the passer,

495
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: whether it's Randy Gregor or not. Yeah, but wait, hold

496
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: on about Randy Gregory. I think it gives you a

497
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: right end period. I mean, and then we'll see what

498
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: happened with Gregory. I mean, I think he's a better

499
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: player than Gregory. Yeah. Well, that was actually my question.

500
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: And if you really what I want you, guys, is

501
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me kind of if you

502
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: had to rank those three players, where does Quinn fall

503
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: in relation to Tank and in relation to Randy Gregory?

504
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: Is he the best of them? Is he worse than

505
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: Tank but better than Lawrence? I mean, I'm sorry, better

506
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Speaker 1: than than Randy Gregory. Where does he fit in that

507
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: in that group? You know, it's interesting who's your most

508
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: important position? If you had to say, on the defensive line, Well,

509
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: in this defense, right end, right end, and they and

510
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: they play Lawrence at left end. Does that tell you something?

511
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: You know, we've been fighting about that for years because, like,

512
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: tell you something the whole. They don't think he could

513
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: play right end, the whole. They traded up thirteen spots

514
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: in the draft for him because they said he was

515
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: playing left on the board, he's playing left end. Yeah,

516
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: you don't think he could play right end. I don't

517
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Speaker 1: think he could play right end as well as he's

518
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: played left end. No, I really don't. I'd be curious

519
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: to see him try. I think I think I think

520
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. I think Robert Quinn is a bad you

521
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: know what, right end. I think that's you think he

522
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: would come in here and be the best defensive end

523
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: on the team. I think As far as pass rushing, absolutely, yes, Wow,

524
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: that's big. How much tape have you watched of him

525
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: to say that? I tell you no, I've watched enough

526
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: tape to know hit the way he plays, the style

527
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: he plays, so I've seen him play enough. When you

528
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: start talking about explosive this pass rush moves he does,

529
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: thinks Lawrence is rare as a left end. We had

530
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: this discussion yesterday. Look at the left ends in pro

531
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: football that I mean, if you're a left end and

532
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: can rush the passer, you're rare. I'm not saying that

533
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a poor Russia. I'm just saying he plays

534
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: left end. The left ends in this league that have

535
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: had had great success, Reggie White, Michael Strahan, Khalil Mack, Okay,

536
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: those are those Those are pretty damn good players because

537
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: they don't take that. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

538
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I hear you. But but you're

539
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: talking about they don't play him at right in. They've

540
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: had a chance to play him at right end and

541
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: they don't. That tells me something. Right there, you don't

542
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: think he could do it if they just moved him

543
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: over there, Like I basically refused to believe that he

544
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be good at it. Have they moved him Maybe

545
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: that's because they don't feel good about what that would

546
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: look like. That's what you have a guy that can

547
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: handle undertackle, undertackle, right and right in and undertackle, the

548
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: two most supportant positions. What position does he play? That's

549
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: what I'm just saying. He plays left, he plays left

550
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: him but do they have a guy that can play

551
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: left end if Lawrence isn't doing it? That's the now.

552
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: This is where if you get Quinn. You've seen Crawford

553
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: play in the suspension, during the suspension of Lawrence, you

554
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: saw Crawford play left in. What does your left in

555
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: have to be able to do? He has to be

556
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: able to play against the run. Right. That's where Lawrence

557
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: is rare. He could play the run, he could play

558
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: he could rush the pass. Yeah, yeah, that's basic. It's

559
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: more important to them for him to play the run

560
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: it left in and rush the passer over there than

561
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: it is for him to play it right in exactly.

562
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: And that's he's too well rounded of a player, and

563
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: maybe it works against him. I bet if you ride

564
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: him up at right in and say go get the

565
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: quarterback and don't worry about anything else, I bet he'd

566
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: be pretty damn good at it. That's all I'm saying.

567
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: He had more sacks, Yeah you do. I think he

568
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: could push for it. Yeah if his only responsibility was

569
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: rushing the pastor sure, I don't think. But you have

570
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: more sacks just because of the matchup going up against

571
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: the left tackle, that's true. Maybe I would like to

572
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: see it, Yeah, I would like to see it. But

573
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: what they have is working. I mean, really, you are

574
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: talking about an upgrade over over Randy Gregory or Taco

575
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: or you know, and I see that's what you have

576
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: to plug out the Tacco you have to figure out. Okay,

577
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: if in fact that you were to do something with Lawrence,

578
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: say you know this whole thing. I think it really

579
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: hinges on the agent here, I really do. I think

580
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: this whole deal hinges on the agent. And I hope

581
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: if it gets close enough that the agent's not stubborn

582
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: enough and then that Lawrence goes to the agent says,

583
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: we need to get this thing done. So let's I

584
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: don't want this thing. I don't want this thing to

585
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: like to fester, because you've got two things happening. You

586
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: have a coaching staff that's fighting for their lives right now,

587
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: and you're starting about talking about not having enough players

588
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: for them to, you know, to keep their jobs. And

589
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: then you got the players thinking what are our chances

590
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: without Lawrence? Let's speak plainly. So most people like common logic.

591
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: You look at any beat writer, me included, us included.

592
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: People are on Twitter saying, this isn't about DeMarcus Lawrence.

593
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: This is about they don't have Randy Gregory. They need

594
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: help with their pass rush. They're picking fifty eight. This

595
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: is a great way to do that. You're saying that

596
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: this is a shot across the bow at DeMarcus Lawrence.

597
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: I think it's Will McClay, Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones. Look

598
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: at all the moves. Even you had a tweet yesterday

599
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: talking about well they filled this need, well, they filled

600
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: this need. Well, they filled this need. Yeah, it's all

601
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: about protecting yourself on the roster. That's what this is.

602
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: And if, in fact that they cannot come to an

603
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: agreement with Tank Lawrence, then okay, what's our next option?

604
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: What we've got to if we've got Robert Quinn, at

605
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: least we've got a pass rusher that Brian Broadus thinks

606
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: is pretty damn good. Whether that means anything or not. Yeah,

607
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: but you know, here's the deal. I actually agree with

608
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: you that I do think that this will give them leverage,

609
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: and I think it's leverage that they probably will use,

610
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: knowing how aggressively they go when it goes to when

611
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: it comes to try to negotiate deals. They're very aggressive

612
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: in negotiating deals. So I think they'll use this leverage.

613
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: How I personally feel about it is though I would

614
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: actually look at it the opposite way if I were them,

615
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: And then what I mean by that is, if I

616
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: were able to get Robert Quinn, I would actually give

617
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: me more impetus to figure out how to get it

618
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: done with Lawrence, because now I have an opportunity, and

619
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you don't get this opportunity very often. Yeah, I have

620
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity to have two really, really outstanding defensive ends

621
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: that can rush the passer. That again, if if we're

622
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: talking to go back to why I wanted them to

623
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: go after Earl Thomas, is because I wanted them to

624
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: take the step from being a good defense to being

625
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: a great defense. You get two pass rushers. The quality

626
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: of these guys that can also push you to the

627
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: direction of becoming a great defense. Your your direction and

628
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: your desire to go that direction is great until you

629
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: meet the big roadblock in front of you, the agent,

630
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: until you, until you, until you So you have to

631
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: deal with the money. I can get it. You're you're

632
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: You're a team that can't just sit there and say, oh,

633
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: we've got one player, wait till next year. We're doing

634
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: this show. Oh can you believe they haven't signed any

635
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: of these seven guys yet? How are they gonna play

636
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: without Dak? How are the gonna play without Zeke? How

637
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: are they gonna play without Burne? Job? But you know

638
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: as much as I do, Brian, and this is something

639
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: that you can get it done. You can get it done.

640
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want to do. You just

641
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to figure it out. But that's what

642
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your willingness to figure it out might not

643
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: be the gentleman who's living lady that's living somewhere else.

644
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: And that's what I said. I said, I don't think

645
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to negotiate this hard as

646
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: they always do. I think they're gonna use this as leverage.

647
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: If they can sign Robert Quinn, if they can trade

648
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: for Robert Quinn, I think they're gonna use his leverage. Personally,

649
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: my opinion, I would actually get the deal done with

650
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Tank regardless because I think that gives me an opportunity

651
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: to have two outstanding past been done. I'm gonna ask

652
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: everybody here three months ago, yeah, two months ago, whatever,

653
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: whatever month, I don't think I would have even gotten

654
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: to free agency now. Of course, again I'm not writing

655
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: that check, and and there may be things that I

656
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: don't see about the salary cap that they do obviously,

657
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the way I

658
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: look at it is this, this signing is about much

659
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: more than the amount of money and the player. It

660
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: is about the fact that you asked this guy, show me,

661
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: show me another year. If you asked this guy to

662
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: not only be a good player, but you ask him

663
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: be a good player, You ask him to be a leader,

664
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: You asked him to to to bring his teammates along.

665
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: And what did he do this year? No question. I

666
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: think that the success of that defense in large part

667
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: was due not just to his play, but his leadership

668
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: of all the other guys that were on that defense.

669
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: He did all the things you wanted him to do.

670
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: He checked all the boxes for me. I say, you

671
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: pay a guy like that. If you'd had a bad season,

672
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: they would have run to the table to offer him

673
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: a low ball. They would they would have rushed in

674
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: there to lowball. And he didn't have a bad season.

675
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: And now they don't want to deal with it. And

676
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: that's why don't they want to deal with David because

677
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be really expensive. Yeah. And then here's

678
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: the part that here's the part that we don't know,

679
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: but they don't know. I don't know what the age

680
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: makes it frustrating is they decided to play this game

681
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: by franchising him. They were like, do it again and

682
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: you'll be in line for even more money. Well, he

683
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: did it. Again and he's in line for more money,

684
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: and now you have to pay him. But here's the part,

685
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what the agent's asking. If the agent

686
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: is asking, we want to be the highest paid defensive

687
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: end in the NFL, then I see why the Cowboys

688
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: of you like, sorry, but I have say, like you

689
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: entered into that game. That's how this works. I get that.

690
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: But that also means that now you have to negotiate

691
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: it hard because you're not willing to make him. And

692
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he should be the highest paid defense.

693
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the best defensive end in the

694
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: NFL though, so I don't think he should be paid

695
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: as the best defensive in the Cousins isn't close to

696
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: be in the best quarterback in the NFL. And that's

697
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: the market. That's a bad deal. That's a bad deal.

698
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: You don't what's a bad deal? For three year deal?

699
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? What's a bad deal because you're

700
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: paying it an amount of money that he's not do like,

701
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: he has not earned that amount of money. The market,

702
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: the market says that he said that, the team said

703
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: that he did. That doesn't say the market the Vikings

704
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: paid for the potential for him to be good. He didn't.

705
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a winning record. He's never won a

706
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: playoff game. Like I think that the market was and

707
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do. You have to pay

708
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: for what's going to happen. That's my point is like,

709
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: that's how this works. It might not be fair, but

710
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: it's like the one thing in this league that favors

711
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: the players, and that's just that's how it works. Will

712
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: only give him twenty million dollars, Yeah, that's what they're

713
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: telling you. I don't think they're telling you this is

714
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: going to be rushed into anything. I don't think this

715
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: is leverage for him or against him or anything like that,

716
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: because I mean, at the end of the day, he's

717
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: got a twenty million dollars I mean franchise tag. Yeah,

718
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: but if he doesn't want to play on that franchise tag,

719
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Let's assume for a second that he just decides, Okay, well,

720
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep holding out. He does a levy on Bell, Well,

721
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys have Robert Quinn, now they're like, okay,

722
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: you can go and sit and we don't have to

723
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: pay you. He can sign. I think he'll still sign

724
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: the deal. And just play at twenty million. Yeah. The

725
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: thing about sign the deal and he'll get a surgery.

726
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If he signs it. If he

727
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: signs the deal and doesn't play for you till October,

728
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: the end of October, that that's a bad situation. That's

729
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, this is gonna sound really silly. I would

730
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: rather trade him than live through that. I would rather.

731
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: I would rather trade him. I would rather trade him

732
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: than live with him going into training camp not being

733
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: there every day. Uh yeah, Jason, Uh? Any word on

734
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: Laura's yet? No Nick? No word? Uh? Brian? Uh yeah, Brian,

735
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: any word on Laura, any signing, on any anything going on?

736
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: You know, have that information. Yeah, it's it's we can

737
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: only focus on the players that are here. If we

738
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: can only focus on the guys that are here, if

739
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: the choday, if the choices between trade him or you know, again,

740
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this last week, Like you

741
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: get to training camp and he starts on pup and

742
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: he's wearing a jersey and no pads and doing hamstring

743
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: conditioning for four weeks and then easing into it like

744
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: in September, and you know, October, we're playing the bills

745
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: he might be ready for like, no, get no way.

746
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want the headache. It's

747
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: not gonna make the team better. The relationship is gonna

748
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: be bupkiss just no, thank you. And if he's not

749
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: a happy player, I don't know if I necessarily want

750
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: him in the locker room, if you can't find a

751
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: way affecting other young player, if you can't find a

752
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: way to get this deal done by the draft. But

753
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: you know it's funny. And again, here's the thing which

754
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: I think that Brian says. I think of that lunacy.

755
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: Just for the record, I think that's insane. What is

756
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: is he trading him? But I would rather just rip

757
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: that band aid off than draw this thing out. Yeah, yeah,

758
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get a deal done. It's just

759
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: amount of timing. And that's what bothers me about this

760
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: is I want the timing happen now. I want him.

761
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: I want him in all of the mini camps and

762
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: OTAs leading that defensive unit. What I want. Where were

763
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: you gonna say that I was gonna get you fired?

764
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: So no, I was gonna trying to get away from No, no, no, no, no, no,

765
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: this is good, This is good radio. No, no, is

766
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: is he wrong? Is he wrong in his demands? What

767
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: depends on what he's asking for. If he's gonna be

768
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: high pay defensive end, then I think he is wrong

769
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: for them. Okay, do you think he's wrong? I don't

770
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: think he's the best defensive end. You don't think he's wrong. No,

771
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what he's asking for it. But

772
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that really either. All

773
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: I've heard is one comment from the agent at the

774
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, and it sounded like it was He's like,

775
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: what is this a big deal? I mean it's twenty million?

776
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean why why? Why is this taken so long?

777
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: Is it start to at twenty million? So yeah, I

778
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: start talking million, like, that's what I'm saying there, that's

779
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: science start. You've already said. The Cowboys have already said, hey,

780
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: we'll give you twenty million. Once you once you said

781
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: we'll give you. Now it's now now where are we?

782
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: That means my counter offers gonna be twenty five. We'd

783
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: like to, we'd like to, we'd like to pay you.

784
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: We'll give you twenty million, but we'd like to pay

785
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: you sixteen a year. It's you know, that's not going

786
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: to work for its contract was what seventeen a year?

787
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Please don't look at that contract. Why no, no for them.

788
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: For them, they would love a Dford if they walked

789
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: in right now and said, we'll take Dford money. The

790
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: cow was, Oh, well, here Ford isn't in the same stratosphere.

791
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's not even close. No, I know, I'm

792
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: saying that's that's that money. So he's way better more

793
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: than that. There's no question for these other contracts that

794
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: are going to be coming in. That's what they're waiting

795
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: on here, that these other that there's what there's three

796
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: other defensive ends that are clowney clowney, So you just

797
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: got you kind of want to want to see what

798
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: the market looks like, right, yeah, right, Mickey's that's also

799
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: the interesting part about this defensive end, I think we

800
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: would all agree is probably one of the most important

801
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: positions in the NFL. And that's and the fact you

802
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: have such premium names sitting out there they haven't been

803
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: signed yet kind of suggests that there they need to

804
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of wait to see what the market does a

805
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: little bit, right, But he's the best one I think

806
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: in that group and I think the Cowboys clown Is

807
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: he better than Clowney? Yeah, he's more reliable than Clowney.

808
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: I think be Clowney had some issues earlier last year

809
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: or two. I thought he played a ton of games.

810
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: He's playing opposite what's been the guy that hasn't been.

811
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: So he's also who's playing right in. He's got an

812
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: all pro playing frost line from him. I'll pull this

813
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: up for you, Okay. Well, while while he's pulling it up,

814
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I did have one of the questions for you on

815
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: on Robert Quinn. Let's assume, for second, Cowboys are interested,

816
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins are interested. How much you willing to give? What

817
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: kind of pick are you willing to give in order

818
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: to acquire? If I don't have another team involved, and

819
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna take me a twenty twenty pick, with the

820
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: thought of maybe I don't know the compensatory fate of

821
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: this team yet of what they've lost, we'll see. But

822
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: if I was thinking you're gonna if you went twenty

823
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: two one, you could probably go a four. If you

824
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: do a four this year, knowing you have too that

825
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: that might be if you had another team that was

826
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: competing against you say, if the Saints who like to

827
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: mess with you, that coach messages with you, he does

828
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: her Cowny hasn't missed very many games. He's been pretty reliable.

829
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Lest couple still think Tank is better. Maybe so, I

830
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: just I think they're I think they're comparable. I don't

831
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: think one place than I write it. Yeah that this place.

832
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: They rose from the right side scheme they put a

833
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: two time, they put a two time defensive player of

834
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: the year, or run that left side scheme. Nonsense, go away,

835
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: But no, you know the whole thing with I think

836
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: that you have to think about if you don't, if

837
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: you don't get into they they took a four for

838
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: their quarterback. Do you start at the four because you

839
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: have two? Or do you or Everything the Dolphins have

840
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: done since they hired their new coach suggests that they're

841
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: going full freaking They're going full Brooklyn nets like Tanka

842
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: Paloza there does kind of feel like that doesn't What

843
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: does that team have right now? They are garbage? Sorry

844
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. No, I mean they're doing it on player

845
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: you might want. They're trying to build it from the

846
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: studs up. Yeah, they're trying to get right. If you're

847
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: doing that, maybe they have to get good value. My

848
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: point is, I'm trying to give a twenty twenty pick

849
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: because that's when that's what you're doing. I'm not trying

850
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: to give picks that I'm using in three weeks. If

851
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: you don't get these offense could have a twenty twenty

852
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: pick if they just hang on to him. Depend Yeah,

853
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: depending and they get a compensatory pick, but it'd be

854
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: for Also, then they're stuck paying his salary to play

855
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: in a scheme that he doesn't fit in for a year,

856
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: and that'll decrease. That decreases his value. Yeah, i'd give him,

857
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: I'd give him a fourth, but I'd rather give him

858
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: a fifth. But yeah, i'd started five for fourth gets

859
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: it done if nobody else is in. If nobody else

860
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: is in, let's go five. Yeah, I'd start with five

861
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: and then go to the fourth and and think I

862
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: might get a compensatory next year four one of my guys.

863
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have all these you know? Yeah, No,

864
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: they are, I mean somebody. Yeah, when they tank, they'll

865
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: get a whole bunch of stuff for him, So it'd

866
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: be cool. But I mean I would, I would I

867
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: would give him a third if I got their fourth

868
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah. Are always those are the fund

869
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: trades where it's like, well we got a third, but

870
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: we gave up a fourth. Yeah, I mean because they're

871
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: they're picking Layton the third, Copley with Layton third, that

872
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins would be higher in the fourth. I would do that.

873
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, since you brought it up

874
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: real quick? Would you would you take if someone gave

875
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: you two picks for Tank that like that Indie trade

876
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: that we did on the would you yeah, would you

877
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: pick the players that at say Indie trade twenty six

878
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: fifty eight fifty nine? Would you pick the players or

879
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: would you try and move that thing up? I think

880
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather just have three players. Sounds like this is

881
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: a pretty deep draft on what I've heard. You guys

882
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: would know more about that. It sounds like a pretty

883
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: deep draft. So I can maybe I keep the picks

884
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: and you think we could get twenty six and thirty

885
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: four out of the Colts, Boy, I tell you what

886
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: that'd be both. Yeah. See they hold they hold Tank

887
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: for a top five pass rusher, Yeah, working for a

888
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that knows him really well on a team

889
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: that's you know, got that went pretty deep in the playoffs.

890
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: Would you do that in a heartbeat? I love Lawrence,

891
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: I absolutely love Lawrence. Any would it would hurt your team.

892
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: But I'm trying like hell to get Quinn to help myself,

893
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: to protect myself, which goes back Derek made and I

894
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: agree with Derek, which you know that's rare for you

895
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: and me. I know, let's say, wow, if you add

896
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Quinn to this team and sign Lawrence, you have taken

897
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: a definitive step. No, there's no question toward winning a

898
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: super Bowl, which is the goal, right, that is a goal.

899
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: If you get rid of Lawrence, even if you get

900
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of picks for him, don't try to

901
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: sell me that you're going for the super Bowl. You're

902
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904
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: gonna get anything for him next year. I know. I'm

905
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 1: just saying, don't try to sell me that the super

906
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Bowl is the goal. If you get rid of that guy, Well,

907
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: don't try and sell me we sign our own either. Well,

908
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Speaker 1: good point, all right, We're gonna take our final break

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. This isn't the final segment of The Break

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Speaker 1: with it? Couldn't I have to start? No? Ye, sure

961
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: you could have done it. You could have done it

962
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: last week when I wasn't on the show and I

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964
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Speaker 1: But this week with me in studio, probably had a

965
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Speaker 1: good idea. And Andre Dillard, the Washington State tackle, he

966
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: is flying up the boards and yes, so you guys know,

967
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Speaker 1: if you're not catching the draft show, you're you guys

968
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you check that back every Thursday you

969
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: talk about and we're going to at some point we'll

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Speaker 1: let you guys know more details. We're gonna actually take

971
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,960
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972
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Speaker 1: why no, we're just gonna take it on there in

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Speaker 1: Dallas concrete. Right, we'll be on the road, yeah, and

974
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: talk some drafts. So um, all right, let's get back

975
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: into it. I want to talk about Eric Berry. He

976
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: is the final of the three that we're talking about today.

977
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: Pretty eventful show to excuse me. He visited Earl Thomas

978
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: coming in and being the third segment, pretty like. Yeah,

979
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Speaker 1: they visited the Texas Guy to be first segment, the first, second,

980
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Speaker 1: and third segment, Brian. They visited with an all pro

981
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: at the position that everyone and that follows the Cowboys

982
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: has been desperately trying to address for three years, and

983
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: then we're saving it for the third segment. Yeah. Well

984
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: there's a reason why because and I'll ask you guys

985
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: this question. If you if you look at Eric Eric

986
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: Berry and where he is in his career, I would say,

987
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: of all the of the guys we've talked about the day,

988
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: he's the guy I'm least excited about bringing in. I

989
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: would be more excited about Cobbin and Quinn than I

990
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: would be about Eric Barry. But you guys feel read

991
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: him well. I don't know about it. I don't know

992
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: how good he would be, but I think as far

993
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: as the likelihood to get him, I think he's you know,

994
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: he's lower than Quinn just because you're talking about a trade.

995
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is Eric Berry, what he's

996
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: gone through in his life and everything that that's happened

997
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: to this point. This is his last chance to really

998
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: get big money, and I think he's gonna go for that.

999
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the Cowboys could be that.

1000
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: But is anybody going to be willing to pay? Maybe

1001
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if they will actually But and then

1002
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: it comes down to a good fit, good need, and

1003
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: I think that And I was thinking about this with

1004
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Quinn as well. I think if you look at the

1005
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, if I'm a defensive player and I have

1006
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: the option to come here, I think the Cowboys would

1007
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: rank right up there with any of the other teams

1008
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: as far as this team is good enough to go win.

1009
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a defensive end or a safety,

1010
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: you've got two badass linebackers there in between, you've got

1011
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl corner, you've got a Pro Bowl defensive end,

1012
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: maybe another one in Quinn. I mean, it would be

1013
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: attractive to come here for this team. Can I ask

1014
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: you a question? Though you hate my scheme questions? Does

1015
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: he fit? They don't. They don't like what he can do? Yeah,

1016
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: go ahead, no go no, it's yeah. I like it's

1017
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: a good voice. Appreciate that. Does he fit? I think

1018
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: he fits? I mean, if you think of if you

1019
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: think of where you have with Xavier Woods, wherever he plays,

1020
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: wherever he I disagree. I think put him in the box,

1021
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: that's fine. What can he do at this point in

1022
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: his career. I know he can tackle. I know he

1023
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: can tackle, and that's what I want my box safety

1024
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: to do. Anyway, he's probably better Jeff Heath, right, yes,

1025
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: better than Yeah, better Jeff Heath better, Jeff Heath, pro

1026
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: Bowl pedigree, all pro caliber work ethic. Put him in

1027
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: a locker room with Xavier Woods and all these other

1028
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: twenty three year old defense at that time, he's shown

1029
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: some passion for some players, and you're getting talking to you.

1030
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Pisses me off. You're getting to You're getting to you

1031
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: every week. I like kissed off two really great Pro

1032
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber players in one signing because you because you

1033
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: would get Eric Berry at safety, and you would get

1034
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath at special teams. And Jeff Heath, if he

1035
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: played just special teams, would be a Pro Bowler. Not

1036
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: only well that that's that's smart. Jeff Heath at third

1037
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: safety too, because we know they like to do that.

1038
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: That's that is the role that he was meant for.

1039
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I want him on this team. I don't want him

1040
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: starting safety Gardner Johnson from Miami. I don't want to

1041
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: spend my second round pick on that guy. Well, if

1042
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: they have Eric Berry. But okay, let me ask you

1043
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: this question, though, does it not that's good for you guys?

1044
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: He's only played three games in two years. It's terrifying.

1045
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: It is terrifying. He's and he played in three games

1046
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: in two years. He didn't make it through one point. Yeah, No,

1047
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean you now have you would now have two

1048
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: players that you worry about during the games, which, to

1049
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: answer your question, is the shot and leave of safeties.

1050
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: That's what you keep saying, Bobby Belt. It's a good line,

1051
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: but I rank him second behind Quinn. No disrespect to

1052
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb. Like I think you know that's high praise

1053
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: because you said it in the first segment. You say that,

1054
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: you said that you thought the signing of Randall Cobb

1055
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: was a really great sign. It is. But if you're getting,

1056
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: even if you're getting a healthy Eric Berry, even if

1057
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: he's like three steps slower than he used to be,

1058
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: I think it's an upgrade. I think everything I know

1059
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: about the guy, I've never met him, but everything I've

1060
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: ever heard is that he would be a hugely positive

1061
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: influence in the same vein as a Shan Lee, a

1062
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: guy who would take these young dudes under his wing.

1063
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: And again, if he's healthy, play at a great level,

1064
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: maybe not at all pro level, but better than what

1065
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: we've seen from that position. I think it would be huge.

1066
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: And the only reason I wouldn't do it is cost

1067
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: and I just I have a hard time of leaving

1068
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: a guy that's only made it through two games in

1069
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: the last two years, who's thirty, and you know, yeah,

1070
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: but what about what do we we were kind of thinking,

1071
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: we were hoping for We were hoping for Earl Thomas.

1072
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: Remember I was going one more day, one more day,

1073
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, they just blow you

1074
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: away in and we were talking about, well, can earls

1075
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: stay healthy? Kenny? You know, I don't think that's clue.

1076
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: You don't think you don't think people are you do

1077
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: you think people are thinking about this guy as not

1078
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: being healthy at all? Right? I mean when you are

1079
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: play three games in two years. Yeah, that that scares

1080
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: the heck out of him. You're talking, what Earl broke

1081
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: a bone? That's a freak, Like we're talking about a

1082
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: heel problem about legally? Yeah, and I don't know whoa

1083
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: whoa wait a minute. Now, you guys have gone from

1084
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain to like jumping off the cliff. No,

1085
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: you have. Everybody's like all excited about it, and now

1086
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: you're killing my vibe. You're excited about it? My right? Nick?

1087
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: Why did he missed two years ago? He tore his

1088
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: achilles in the third quarter of the first game of

1089
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, and then last year, last year's gonna

1090
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: have a very severe bone spur that. I don't know

1091
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: if it was related to the achilles, but it's like

1092
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: a it's got its own name. I don't remember what

1093
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: it is, but it's like a bone spur that digs

1094
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: into your achilles and supposedly it hurts. Like it's called

1095
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: that sounds like, yeah, bitch, yeah, well yeah, I mean

1096
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: it sounds like he played in the playoffs. Yeah, so sure,

1097
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: I would assume. But you guys, you guys had me go. Well,

1098
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: but he had me going. And now Allison, we're like,

1099
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: you're in the second wave of free agency. You're not

1100
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: getting I'm you're not getting players I'm in. I'm saying that.

1101
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to temper my expectations a little

1102
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: bit because this is the classic example of huge upside.

1103
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of risk involved, right, and if

1104
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: you guys only played three games in two years, there's

1105
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: a ton of risk. But there you can get the

1106
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: money to work. There's no risk involved if it's at

1107
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: the right price, right. If you get the money to work,

1108
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: you mitigate the risk and then all you're doing is

1109
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: looking at potential upside. So from that standpoint, I think

1110
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: if they can get the right deal right, one year deal,

1111
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: then this could work. This will work really really well.

1112
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: You guys are going all one year deal, I would do,

1113
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: what would you do? I would do a three year deal.

1114
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh I'm scared of that. Okay, would you get doing

1115
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: one year? I asked? I asked for me. I'm front

1116
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: loading a lot of it Earl Thomas, but I don't

1117
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: know what. I haven't money. Earl Thomas got in. No, No,

1118
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: two years, eleven million guaranteed up. Yeah, I could do

1119
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: something like in the middle. But all I'm saying is

1120
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: this guy's doing great. Even we saw it was Sue

1121
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: felo a Field had one good start against Fletcher Cox,

1122
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: and we're like, well, was just see one year deal,

1123
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: He'll be back. Give me a break. Okay, I'm sorry,

1124
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: but no, no, I love I love to feel like

1125
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: I was the one Dolion. I was like one year,

1126
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: that's a that's a different thing. But I'm just saying

1127
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: that nobody blows up. You don't want to have to

1128
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: do this again. No, but for two years, that's no,

1129
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: that's I hear what you're saying. But if one year

1130
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: deal gets it done, that's fine because you can get

1131
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: a compic for him. If he blows up, you can

1132
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: draft a guy this year that can step in. One

1133
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: year deal's fine, and not only I'd rather do it too.

1134
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: But if you do it too, that's not very much

1135
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: money and he blows up, you're still gonna have to

1136
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: be back at the negotia take one, because he's gonna

1137
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: be like, I deserve more money. Do not have to

1138
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: fight anyone else? Though maybe maybe not. Maybe it becomes

1139
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: very messy and it ends up in the situation where

1140
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: you got it. Brian is saying, you got it. You

1141
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: gotta go ahead and just trade him, Just go and trade.

1142
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: If the Texans, if the Texans got Honey Badger for

1143
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: seven million last year, I just can't imagine it would

1144
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: cost a ton more to sign Eric Bearer. I just

1145
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: think you get him on a one year and let's

1146
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: just see, it's a prove it kind of deal. I

1147
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: would pay him. I might be willing even pay him

1148
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: eleven million. Yea, I might even pay him like that

1149
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: seven million for a year, right, I would give him

1150
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: more money year one year deal. You better you better

1151
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: get d Law signed because that five for Cobb, what

1152
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: eight for Berry or something like that? Eleven for Quinn

1153
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: if that happens, I'm just saying, but that all goes O.

1154
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Look next year you can't play around with one year

1155
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: deals though they're one year they go in. I mean

1156
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: they love the one year deals. Yeah, I don't. At

1157
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: the same point, you've got to get the twenty million

1158
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: dollars one year deal. You got to work on that.

1159
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: I got it, But I guess the way I look

1160
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: at it in one year deals, I'm okay with the

1161
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: one years because I'm saying now after this year, when

1162
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: contracts you have to do. That's kind of how you

1163
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: play this game is you look for those kind of

1164
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: bargain deals and guess what they're gonna be. More people

1165
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: like that are in the same situation as Robert Quinn,

1166
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: same situation as Eric Berry next year. That if you

1167
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: want to go out and do one year deals with

1168
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: those kind of guys, go do them. It happens every

1169
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: year that they are veterans who, like like Dave said, earlier,

1170
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: had that bad year and now they're available on the cheap.

1171
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: So that's how you play that game. In my opinion,

1172
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: I get it. But why, But how much are you

1173
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: talking about with with Eric Barry eight, Let's just say

1174
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: that's the I don't even know that's the and that's

1175
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: he left here. I Garrett you know, this is the

1176
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: first time he's ever been a free agent. He's gonna

1177
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: look around and it all. I mean, it's the same

1178
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: thing as the draft. All it takes is somebody to

1179
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, i'll give you twenty million dollars's to

1180
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: say nine the Ravens swoop. You know, did you see

1181
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: the other offer that Earl. Earl Thomas was weighing, a

1182
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: one year, twelve million dollars offer from the Chief was

1183
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: about and was about ready to sign it, and the

1184
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: Ravens were like, well, we'll give you fifty. Yeah, so

1185
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: who the hell knows twelve? I think I think Earl

1186
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: didn't want to say anything nice about the Cowboys. That's fine.

1187
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: It's probably a little bit no, not happy. Yeah, that's

1188
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: probably where he wanted to He probably going to work out. Yeah,

1189
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna say Kansas City was in the picture, Yeah,

1190
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: when maybe Dallas might have been the pick. He just

1191
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: doesn't want to mention Dallas by either way. He knows

1192
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: he got in trouble by mentioning Dallas the first running

1193
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: over here, and he owned his money substantially at the

1194
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: eleventh hour. That's my only It always takes one to

1195
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: hear might have been pissed off the day before that game,

1196
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: and then whoever they were playing, he would have chased

1197
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: down that coach and be like, come get me when

1198
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: they kicked me. All right, let's let's quickly. I want

1199
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: to take one call before the show's up. We have

1200
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: a call from Brian and Iowa. Brian, what up? Hey?

1201
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? Hey? Hey, do good? Um? I have

1202
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: a couple of questions. Uh, a couple of my Iahawkeye players,

1203
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: t J Hodginson and no fan. If it's possible if

1204
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: Dallas would want to trade up to get one with

1205
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: Tens and then um, if Dex still Lawrence had a

1206
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: chance to fallen into Cowboy's lap, what would you guys

1207
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: think he would look like alongside Woods and Lawrence and

1208
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: possibly Quinn and in that line, thank you nice little

1209
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: draft show questions That was tomorrow on the show. Both

1210
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: those tight ends go in the first round. I would

1211
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: give a finger to have either of those tight ends

1212
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: on this team. Yeah, but they've got a knife. The cost,

1213
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: The cost is large if you trade the defensive end. Yeah, hey, hey,

1214
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: you want to trade full circle? Right, you're a trade

1215
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: all number ninety And now we're taught now you're at

1216
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: twenty six and you have fifty eight and fifty nine

1217
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: and you can go up to fifteen and get Hockinson.

1218
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Let's go. There's no way they're going to use a

1219
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: high pick on a one technique. Lawrence is from Clemson.

1220
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: What if he said fall in their laps? Though, you

1221
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: think they'd use fifty eight on him. Not that he'll

1222
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: fall that far, but I don't know. I mean, if

1223
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: if they had to, I think that you'd have to.

1224
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go okay if he falls in

1225
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: your lap. Yes, consideration, I personally think they're gonna take

1226
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: that Boston cost. You've you've made yourself well. My guy

1227
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: was on even if the show, would you see that?

1228
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: What's up? Even if they go get Robert Quinn, you

1229
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: still they think they would go in in the Yeah.

1230
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna be about depth. And

1231
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: I mean you were talking one year deals and stuff

1232
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: and all that. I still think they need. They feel

1233
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: like they need defensive ends, defensive ends in safety. Yeah,

1234
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: that's okay, Yeah, fight it out. Tristan Hill. Jonathan Abram

1235
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: was on NFL Network. That's that's big fifty eight us more.

1236
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: Who is he Mississippi State safety Garrett loves his kids.

1237
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Hits like an FB eight. What number at Mississippi State?

1238
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: Thirty eight? Yeah, Yeah, I've seen him. You like him?

1239
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: He's uh, he's what yes, So he must have had

1240
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: a good day that they played, Yes, but he's like

1241
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker safety's yes, he's what Jason Garrett would call

1242
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: it r KG. Yeah, and he's gonna be available fifty eight.

1243
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: Let's say he's that good. We're not picking him at

1244
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: fifty eight. We're picking him at thirty four after we

1245
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: trade Tank to Colts. Told you this got it? Bar?

1246
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Like? I'm just tomorrow and eleven

1247
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: ambles on this show? Right, yeah, all right. We appreciate

1248
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: you guys joining us to the Colts. We will be

1249
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: back next week, next Wednesday, we'll have more talk. Hopefully

1250
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: it'll be more signings. Maybe a Robert Quinn in the building.

1251
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: We'll see until then for Nick even Dave Hellman, Brian

1252
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: brought us. I'm Derek Eagles and this has been the

1253
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has

1254
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,240
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1255
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,000
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