Speaker 1: M Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only
Speaker 1: West had kowits for coming to you here from our
Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field. And this is our final show
Speaker 1: of the week as we will take a break from
Speaker 1: recording shows the rest of this week over the holiday.
Speaker 1: So happy Thanksgiving to everyone out there. Hope you certainly
Speaker 1: enjoy a day with family and friends. But West, because
Speaker 1: it is our final show of the week, we might
Speaker 1: as well dive right into Keys to Victory here. The
Speaker 1: Packers are headed to play the Giants in New Jersey
Speaker 1: Sunday noon Central time kickoff. The objective is to get
Speaker 1: win number nine. So how do the Packers go about
Speaker 1: doing that? Bringing up right now nfl g S I
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Speaker 1: can tell you confidently right now, the New York Giants
Speaker 1: are thirty second in the league when it comes to
Speaker 1: giveaways via the fumble fifteen lost fumbles minus eleven and
Speaker 1: turnover differential this season. It's not very fancy. It's not
Speaker 1: this big, huge, massive take. The Green Bay Packers have
Speaker 1: been pretty good at points in this season. Taking the
Speaker 1: ball away. They need to do that. And you know
Speaker 1: the other thing is to see Kwon Barkley has been
Speaker 1: much beligned here the last month, people kind of doubting
Speaker 1: where he's been at. If he's healthy, the issues are
Speaker 1: having running the ball. The Packers can't allow themselves to
Speaker 1: be the comeback game here for Sae Kwon Barkley. He
Speaker 1: needs to stay on that same trajectory. Fourteen carries twenty
Speaker 1: eight yards, thirteen carries one yard, seventeen carries sixty yards.
Speaker 1: I mean this, this pattern he's been on. You can't
Speaker 1: allow him to break out because that's what you've seen
Speaker 1: in this league. He's a young man, he has a
Speaker 1: lot of ability. If you allow him to be able
Speaker 1: to break one early, it's going to make for a
Speaker 1: long afternoon. So to me, there's the two biggest things
Speaker 1: in this game. Take the ball away. If the fumbles
Speaker 1: present themselves, the interception presents itself, execute on it. And
Speaker 1: then just make sure that s Kwon Barkley doesn't run wild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And with regards to those comeback players, I'll add that
Speaker 1: the Packers can't let this be Evan Ingram's big comebat game.
Speaker 1: If he does return from the foot injury, which we
Speaker 1: will see as the rest of the week goes along.
Speaker 1: But we all know the problems the Packers have had
Speaker 1: covering tight ends in the middle of the field. Ingram
Speaker 1: is a guy that Daniel Jones would love to rely on.
Speaker 1: They'd love to build the entire passing attack around him
Speaker 1: against a defense like Green Bays. So if Evan Ingram
Speaker 1: is playing, or really whoever is playing tight end, but
Speaker 1: certainly he's the most dynamic if he is healthy enough
Speaker 1: to go, the Packers have got to do something about it. Wes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've seen Travis Kelsey, uh, Darren
Speaker 1: Waller from Oakland, um now obviously um yeah, Greg Olsen
Speaker 1: from the Panthers, and obviously George Kittle from the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: Tight ends have been burning this defense, and the Packers
Speaker 1: have got us somehow, some way find a way to
Speaker 1: put a stop to it and start that trending in
Speaker 1: the other direction here down the stretch. Yeah, because if
Speaker 1: you go back independent of the Packers own issues defending
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and tight ends this season,
Speaker 1: the last time New York's offense other than you know,
Speaker 1: some promising signs last year for sake, Kwon Barkley. The
Speaker 1: last time their offense really was feared was during Evan
Speaker 1: Ingram's rookie season when he went off for what eight
Speaker 1: hundred yards, had a bunch of touchdowns, just really looked
Speaker 1: like this guy was going to be a decade defining,
Speaker 1: era defining tight end. What he looked like in him
Speaker 1: coming out of the first round and the ability to
Speaker 1: just jump right in there as a rookie, And how
Speaker 1: many times have I said on the show how long
Speaker 1: it takes for those type of players tight ends to
Speaker 1: get it up to speed with the game, the speed
Speaker 1: of the game. Evan Ingram didn't have those issues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was high impact right away, but the issues he
Speaker 1: has had is with injuries. And I'm glad you pointed
Speaker 1: out Ingram because we could go at this time and
Speaker 1: I were discussing, Okay, well, if George Kittle plays, the
Speaker 1: Packers have to be ready for it. Devin Ingram plays,
Speaker 1: you have to be ready for it, because, as Kittle showed,
Speaker 1: even if a guy's coming off an injury like that,
Speaker 1: he's still George Kittle. He could still burn you in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And really that was the
Speaker 1: biggest you know, not to steal Wayne's phrase here, but
Speaker 1: dagger in that game was that the Packers just were
Speaker 1: not able to come back mount the comeback they needed
Speaker 1: without allowing the explosive play. And you can't allow Evan
Speaker 1: Gram to be that player. Yeah, I mean, I would
Speaker 1: say also with regard to this game, I mentioned I
Speaker 1: believe it was on yesterday's show that the Giants have
Speaker 1: been outscored one to seven in the first quarter of
Speaker 1: this year. It would really behoove the Packers to get
Speaker 1: off to a fast start in this game. You're on
Speaker 1: the road. Don't let a two and nine team on
Speaker 1: a holiday weekend feel like they're going to be in
Speaker 1: the game, feel like, you know, hey, they can they
Speaker 1: can make a statement here by knocking off one of
Speaker 1: the NFC's contenders. All that you have to you have
Speaker 1: to jump on this team early, try to break their
Speaker 1: spirit a little bit and uh and then you know,
Speaker 1: really just just get back on track with what's been
Speaker 1: successful and what's gotten the Packers eight victories this year,
Speaker 1: which is which is using the running backs Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: and Jamal Williams getting that defense to take the ball away.
Speaker 1: As you were talking about, get back to what's one
Speaker 1: you football games, and that that to me, really is
Speaker 1: what this Sunday trip to play the Giants is all about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and especially from the offensive standpoint you mentioned defensively this
Speaker 1: year Giants have had a really difficult time and it's
Speaker 1: been kind of a pattern for them for about three
Speaker 1: or four years now, where the unit that in the
Speaker 1: late two thousands and even in early two thousand tens
Speaker 1: was really stout, could dictate the tempo of the game,
Speaker 1: had a lot of pressure, could take the ball away.
Speaker 1: They've really had none of that the last five years
Speaker 1: and this year it's kind of seeped into that as well. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers and in the running backs perspective and
Speaker 1: these offensive playmakers, this is where you have to get up.
Speaker 1: You have to able to mount some offense and and really,
Speaker 1: you know, give it to the Giants the way that
Speaker 1: they should be dominated. When you look at this on paper, again,
Speaker 1: you can't look past the moment. How many times have
Speaker 1: I said that this week? But this is the type
Speaker 1: of game where you can't even allow them to be
Speaker 1: in the game, I feel, especially being on the road.
Speaker 1: You get this win, you host Washington next week, then
Speaker 1: suddenly you find yourself at ten wins, you have to
Speaker 1: earn them. But the Path of the Playoffs, to steal
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Speaker 1: I'd like to bring Path to the Playoffs back to
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Speaker 1: did it? No, it hasn't made it. It hasn't made
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Speaker 1: the game when Rogers was going to come back from
Speaker 1: the collar bone. But then obviously the Packers were eliminated
Speaker 1: after that. But yes, I would like to bring Path
Speaker 1: to the Playoffs back to the website as a weekly
Speaker 1: feature down the stretch here, but I think it's at
Speaker 1: eight wins. It's a little too early to be to
Speaker 1: go with that. But if you get to that ten marker,
Speaker 1: that's the one you always talk about. And to be
Speaker 1: at ten wins and then hosting the Chicago Bears at
Speaker 1: home in week fourteen or week fifteen, excuse me, that's
Speaker 1: that's the path. And the Giants are interesting because they
Speaker 1: have played some teams tough, but they've just always been
Speaker 1: in a position this year where they've kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: shot themselves in the foot at the wrong time. And
Speaker 1: it's costs the ball games. But I think last week's
Speaker 1: showed against Chicago. If you play down to their level,
Speaker 1: they will mount a challenge. So for Green Bay, I
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing, just getting off to a
Speaker 1: fast start. We talked about it a lot, but they
Speaker 1: haven't done it in two of these three losses. They
Speaker 1: need to be able to do that. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you on the spot here in a set to it,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna preface it by saying that neither you
Speaker 1: nor I is an XS and OS expert. We don't
Speaker 1: coach this game. We've never played this game at any
Speaker 1: sort of high level. I the Howard Swamma Correct League
Speaker 1: would very much, okayagree with you on that. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe I had three sacks and flag football my last year.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the maybe the Platteville Rec League flag football
Speaker 1: in middle school would would count. Give yourself what I
Speaker 1: what I wanted to preface this with those I know
Speaker 1: all the fans are asking, well, how do you how
Speaker 1: do you go about guarding the tight ends? How do
Speaker 1: you go about, you know, defending the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: I don't have the answers XS and OSE wise all
Speaker 1: I know is I think the Packers have got to
Speaker 1: try to find something different because what they have tried
Speaker 1: to this point is not working. I'm gonna turn a
Speaker 1: question out to you about the offense, because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of questions right now, is to what is
Speaker 1: going on with this Packers offense Since Davante Adams came back.
Speaker 1: The offense was better statistically all across the board. The
Speaker 1: offense was better in the four games that Adams was gone.
Speaker 1: So what do the Packers have to do offensively with
Speaker 1: Adams back in the lineup to get back to where
Speaker 1: they were? And again I say, I'm putting you on this. No.
Speaker 1: The thing I really liked from that Chargers game. I
Speaker 1: know that sounds weird probably saying that coming out of
Speaker 1: my mouth with everything that went wrong, but you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about adaptation and Jason Wilde from the Athletic
Speaker 1: and ESPN Wisconsin and all the other entities that Jason
Speaker 1: you know, works for right now, he did have an
Speaker 1: interesting story last week about Matt Lafleur Kyle Shannon and
Speaker 1: how they will like steal concepts from other teams. I
Speaker 1: really liked that that first game against after Kansas City
Speaker 1: all that motion and not and not really like formal motion,
Speaker 1: like almost sort of like Arena League guys just moving
Speaker 1: around in the backfield, not even really getting set before
Speaker 1: the play. I really like that concept that they ran
Speaker 1: with Hardman, and they ran at some with Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: Kansas City did in that game against Green Bay. They
Speaker 1: come out against the Chargers, they did the same exact
Speaker 1: thing with Aaron Jones. I understand it went for a
Speaker 1: one yard loss on the catch, but I really liked
Speaker 1: it because it allows him to get open in space
Speaker 1: and they haven't. That's the last time Aaron Jones. I
Speaker 1: think it's called a ball if I remember correctly. Now,
Speaker 1: the challenge here is that when they split Aaron Jones out,
Speaker 1: now you're seeing more safety cornerback help than you did
Speaker 1: when it was just a middle linebacker trailing him. You
Speaker 1: can't do that. He's proven his hands are too good
Speaker 1: and he's too fleet of foot. I still think there's
Speaker 1: ways you can scheme him open. And for as many
Speaker 1: times as Jamal Williams caught the ball last week, and
Speaker 1: mind you, some of that was in garbage time late,
Speaker 1: but he had seven catches, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to put the ball in Aaron Jones hand outside the numbers. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm laying that out as like one thing because my
Speaker 1: original thought when Davante Adams came back is you have
Speaker 1: these two weapons, established weapons in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a challenge for defense is to
Speaker 1: figure out how to scheme against them. Now, they've played
Speaker 1: some pretty good units San Francisco. There's not a whole
Speaker 1: lot that can be drawn out of that because I
Speaker 1: think San Francisco is the best defense in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now. But the games against Carolina in l A.
Speaker 1: I think there were opportunities there the Packers were not
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of. So whether it comes down
Speaker 1: to the game plan coming in, sticking to the game plan,
Speaker 1: you know, finding different things that work for where the
Speaker 1: offense is at. That's the challenge from Matt Lafleour this week.
Speaker 1: It's a challenge of these offensive coaches in the weeks
Speaker 1: to come. But they've they've been more spread out, they
Speaker 1: haven't been doing as many condensed formations as they did
Speaker 1: early on this season. I just I wrote it an
Speaker 1: inbox this morning on Wednesday morning. I just feel like
Speaker 1: you got to get back to doing what you do well,
Speaker 1: and I don't know in these last two losses if
Speaker 1: we've really seen that, if you know what I mean, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I hear you. I'll say this. And I don't like
Speaker 1: to get into schematic discussions too much. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to throw that one at you when I look at
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners game, and what sticks out
Speaker 1: in my memory that that is one heck of a
Speaker 1: defense that San Francisco has. I take nothing away from
Speaker 1: it from them by any means. The two plays that
Speaker 1: stick out to me in my mind that really worked
Speaker 1: for the Packers and looked like they were the best
Speaker 1: plays they ran all night eight the end around Alan
Speaker 1: Lazar and then the touch pass to Davante Adams going
Speaker 1: in motion that went for a walk in touchdown. So
Speaker 1: it was as though, okay, so those plays work. But
Speaker 1: then all the other times the Packers were running the
Speaker 1: motion and all that kind of stuff, the forty Niners
Speaker 1: weren't biting. So the times that they actually did give
Speaker 1: those guys the ball, those plays work. So do you
Speaker 1: need to do you need to literally give those plays
Speaker 1: more of a chance to get defenses to just play
Speaker 1: you more. Honestly, I'm just I'm throwing it out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I actually did. Like I mean, both of those
Speaker 1: plays might came out of those those bunch for more
Speaker 1: informations we were talking about. In the Lazard one, I
Speaker 1: really liked because for the last two years everyone's been
Speaker 1: talking about Alan Lazar being you know, a hybrid you
Speaker 1: know type receiver tight end. Yeah, line them up off
Speaker 1: left tackle, let him come around on an end around.
Speaker 1: He had the second. We had that little screen up
Speaker 1: in the press box that shows you, like that must
Speaker 1: be a next gen Stafford speed Alan Lazard, who have
Speaker 1: buy a lot of people up they were he wasn't
Speaker 1: fast enough to play in the NFL. Yeah, one of
Speaker 1: the reasons he didn't get drafted. He had the second
Speaker 1: fastest time on a play of any other player that night,
Speaker 1: nineteen point eight. Miles pro Er was his peak speed
Speaker 1: on that play. Yeah, get that guy the football in
Speaker 1: those situations. I guess my point is, you know, giving
Speaker 1: the ball to the receivers in those motion type situations,
Speaker 1: maybe instead of doing it as a token thing, like,
Speaker 1: actually build more off of that so that the defenses
Speaker 1: really do have to honor it for the bulk of
Speaker 1: the game. And then maybe it opens some opens up
Speaker 1: some other things against defenses, like the forty Niners that
Speaker 1: you know, quite frankly looked like they knew everything that
Speaker 1: was coming at him. So, you know, I really like
Speaker 1: that that you mentioned that, because that was one of
Speaker 1: the things when I was looking at the box score
Speaker 1: last week going in this game, I'm like, wow, you know,
Speaker 1: for as much motioning as the Packers have done, I
Speaker 1: think maybe Trevor Davis had two carries, I think NBS
Speaker 1: had one this season, they haven't actually fed the ball
Speaker 1: a lot to the to they show, they show, they
Speaker 1: show it a lot, they show it a lot. But
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's maybe it's time to actually just run though,
Speaker 1: actually run those and give the ball to those guys
Speaker 1: more often and make defenses play you more. Honestly, in
Speaker 1: that respect, I don't know, And there is a lot
Speaker 1: of variation that goes into all this, but when you
Speaker 1: think about it, you go back to a month or
Speaker 1: two ago with the Danny vitality, you know, wheel route
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, those type of things. Those are
Speaker 1: the things that defenses once they see them, they have
Speaker 1: to scheme against them. And when you have more variation,
Speaker 1: when you have more unpredictability. That's when things really kind
Speaker 1: of open up. That the problem the Packers have been
Speaker 1: stuck in in the game against the Charges and now
Speaker 1: against the forty niners is when you fall behind the
Speaker 1: way they did at halftime. Now you're spreading it out
Speaker 1: a lot more. Now you aren't able to run as
Speaker 1: much because the game situations definitely get into into how
Speaker 1: you go about things in the second half. But what's
Speaker 1: the difference, Mike, The Packers are eight in three when
Speaker 1: they had those aid victories. It's being able to get
Speaker 1: off too fast stars. It's being able to score off
Speaker 1: that initial possession. We can talk until you know, however
Speaker 1: long we want about certain schematic adjustments. If you score,
Speaker 1: if you get that first drive right away off the bat,
Speaker 1: that what ultimately gets you set up for the remainder
Speaker 1: of the games. It sets the tone absolutely. Um Select
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Speaker 1: right around the corner, and that means football three games
Speaker 1: early mid afternoon and evening Bears Lions in Detroit. Quick thoughts, Oh,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's really emotional for me, Mike that
Speaker 1: it's been six years since I've eaten that Thanksgiving turkey
Speaker 1: at Ford Field. Man, those are the days the last
Speaker 1: time the Packers played in Detroit and a very a
Speaker 1: very forgettable one. Of the current NFL stadiums, there's only
Speaker 1: one n RG and Houston I have not been to yet,
Speaker 1: which I will check that box hopefully knock on wood
Speaker 1: next year. Uh. The Ford Field is the only one
Speaker 1: that I make up beeline for the for the food,
Speaker 1: not because it's awesome, but because it runs out very quickly. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I've covered I've covered Thanksgiving games
Speaker 1: at Ford Field in two thousand seven, two thousand nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, and two thousand thirteen. I have yet
Speaker 1: to eat a bite of turkey at Ford Field Ford
Speaker 1: because they always run out of food. I don't frequently
Speaker 1: get timed at the forty, but if you had like
Speaker 1: one of those highway guns, like in terms of like
Speaker 1: measuring like speed, that thing, I'd be I'd be pushing
Speaker 1: maximum speed on that thing because not that again, not
Speaker 1: that the turkey is that good, but if you don't
Speaker 1: get to the turkey, it's just potato salad. And you know,
Speaker 1: you know Lettuce. I mean, ask Tom Silverstein from the
Speaker 1: Waukie Journal Sentinel about that. But okay, long story short, Chicago, Detroit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's interesting to me. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's happened the last few years where the Packers have
Speaker 1: not been put on Thanksgiving ever since the Brett Farve
Speaker 1: comeback game, because they played in thirteen in Detroit and
Speaker 1: it was basically every other year they were going to
Speaker 1: do every every odd number year, like I say, seven, nine, eleven, thirty,
Speaker 1: and then fifteen was the Bret for game here against
Speaker 1: Chicago on Thanksgiving, which was a rainy night, just like
Speaker 1: it is outside right now as we're taping the show.
Speaker 1: But yes, since two thousand and fifteen, now the Packers
Speaker 1: have not played on things like it's turned the world
Speaker 1: on its access and now they can't find a way
Speaker 1: to get back to equilibrium. No, but I mean the
Speaker 1: Chicago Jeff Driscoll, if he plays David blows his back
Speaker 1: up the former Perdue quarterback. Um, to me, this looks
Speaker 1: like a game where Chicago should improve to six and six.
Speaker 1: I don't see any other way around it. Their defense
Speaker 1: is still pretty good, they have enough offensive weapons. I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen anything from the Driscoll Lions offense to
Speaker 1: suggest that they're going to win this game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the I think the Bears are looking at this
Speaker 1: obviously as get to six and six and then they say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we have one more game and then we're
Speaker 1: going to be playing the Green Bay Packers. So the
Speaker 1: Bears are looking at it saying, hey, if we can
Speaker 1: get to seven and six and then come to lambeau
Speaker 1: Field and knock off the Packers and get to eaten
Speaker 1: six with two games to go, then it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're still scoreboard watching in in that instance. But they're
Speaker 1: hanging on by a thread and they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: hang on as long as they can. They kind of
Speaker 1: remind me a little bit of the Pittsburgh Steelers too,
Speaker 1: because it's not like you're not playing for draft picks.
Speaker 1: I mean you're playing for wins. There aren't draft picks there,
Speaker 1: so they got to get after this thing. I think
Speaker 1: for Ryan Pace and and certainly for Matt Nagge, showing
Speaker 1: that the steps that they made last year, they're not
Speaker 1: that far off of that. But and and let's be
Speaker 1: honest to Mike for Mitchell Trobiskie, it's got one month
Speaker 1: here to show some real signs of improvement. Needs to
Speaker 1: make those strides. Yeah, no question alright. Game number two
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, the Dallas Cowboys hosting the Buffalo Bills. A
Speaker 1: lot of noise in Dallas from Jerry Jones and his
Speaker 1: frustrations with losing to the Patriots last week and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys being six and five at this stage and the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills at eight and three and looking to try
Speaker 1: to stay on track for a playoff spot in the
Speaker 1: a f C. But everybody questioning just how good the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are based on their schedule and who they beat.
Speaker 1: It really weird. I don't know what the Vegas ads
Speaker 1: are in this game. I would still think that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are favored, even though the issues they've had. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing for Buffalo, this happened to him two
Speaker 1: years ago with Sean McDermott's first year as I think
Speaker 1: his first year as head coach. Maybe it was two
Speaker 1: years ago. You gotta play that you gotta win the
Speaker 1: games that are in front of you, and for the
Speaker 1: most part they have. Now they've taken on the chin
Speaker 1: a couple of times too, but you know that's a
Speaker 1: good defense. Offensively, they do enough to win some of
Speaker 1: these games. I still don't think they're overly dynamic with
Speaker 1: what they do, but be that as it may, they're
Speaker 1: playing the competition that they are. The Dallas Cowboys to
Speaker 1: me have underachieved. I mean, they just have. And I
Speaker 1: understand that that was a mud bowl, slot bowl on
Speaker 1: Sunday night. You throw some of those different variables up.
Speaker 1: They did not get the ball to Marie Cooper in
Speaker 1: that ballgame. Zeke Elliott has been kind of up and
Speaker 1: down this at points of this season when he has played.
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys are still in the lead of that division.
Speaker 1: If you get to nine wins in the NFC East,
Speaker 1: you have to be feeling okay about of playoff chances
Speaker 1: at this point or at least winning that division. And
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Bills are eight and three.
Speaker 1: But I mean, the Cowboys need to win this game
Speaker 1: if they are legitimately going to try to put together
Speaker 1: any argument that they are a contender. And in the
Speaker 1: night game, the New Orleans Saints getting a rematch from
Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago against the Atlanta Falcons. This
Speaker 1: one will be in Atlanta. The Falcons a few weeks
Speaker 1: ago came off of their by at one and seven,
Speaker 1: went into the super domin New Orleans and kind of
Speaker 1: shocked the NFL world in a sense by not just
Speaker 1: beating the Saints, but but quite frankly beating them handily.
Speaker 1: And then the Falcons won another game and they were
Speaker 1: looking like, Okay, they're putting everybody in the NFC on
Speaker 1: notice who's on their schedule. Then last week they go
Speaker 1: out and their defense sort of reverted to form and
Speaker 1: they gave up a whole bunch of points to the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and they lost again. Atlanta playing at
Speaker 1: home against New Orleans. New Orleans trying to get to
Speaker 1: ten and two and keep pace with those teams like
Speaker 1: the forty Niners end the Seahawks that are sitting on
Speaker 1: top of the NFC right now, To do the Saints
Speaker 1: get the revenge? Here? Here's the thing, Yes, I would
Speaker 1: think so, but Atlanta, I've I'm done trying to figure
Speaker 1: them out. The one thing I will say, people are
Speaker 1: gonna look at it. They're gonna go nine and two
Speaker 1: New Orleans against three and eight Atlanta. It's going to
Speaker 1: be an entertaining football game, like it's going to be fun.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if Atlanta is going to be
Speaker 1: able to you know, lightning is going to strike twice there. Uh.
Speaker 1: New Orleans has had ups and downs too, but every
Speaker 1: single time they've had a lull, they've bounced right back.
Speaker 1: And I just think when you look at their weapons,
Speaker 1: what they offer, there are so many challenges for Atlanta
Speaker 1: to be able to stop them twice in a row.
Speaker 1: And offensively, there were years where Matt Ryan could just
Speaker 1: outshoot the other team. This hasn't been one of those years.
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna really exciting. I'll probably get
Speaker 1: a chance to watch it on Thursday night, But other
Speaker 1: than that, I don't know where that one's gonna end up.
Speaker 1: It would be great for the Packers perspective, though. I mean,
Speaker 1: if New Orleans would question kind of, you know, drop
Speaker 1: their tea again, that's fine and Packers can make up
Speaker 1: another game. Yeah, certainly certainly would help green Bay there.
Speaker 1: If if Atlanta were to get the season sweep over
Speaker 1: New Orleans quickly before we go, I have to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the game of the day in the
Speaker 1: NFL coming up on Sunday, which is the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty Niners traveling across the country to Baltimore to face
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. I'm really disappointed we're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to watch this game because it's at
Speaker 1: the same time as Packers Giants. I know you and
Speaker 1: I'll be uh, you know, will be have a little
Speaker 1: try to have a little window up on our screen,
Speaker 1: on our computer screens, just to follow the play by
Speaker 1: play a little bit and see how the score is
Speaker 1: developing there. But what do you think of this game here?
Speaker 1: San Francisco at Baltimore. There's one matchup I want to
Speaker 1: watch and it's Lamar Jackson in that offense against San
Speaker 1: Francisco's defense. Because you know this is gonna be something
Speaker 1: where you don't want to take these for granted, because
Speaker 1: it reminds me of two thousand fourteen. Are the Packers
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots? Is the last time that New England
Speaker 1: lost that season And we were like, all right, super
Speaker 1: Bowl preview and it doesn't work out that way. So
Speaker 1: you want to appreciate for what it is. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that can happen between now in February,
Speaker 1: and even though these two look like front runners in
Speaker 1: their respective conference, a lot of things can change. So
Speaker 1: appreciate it for what it is. And that appreciation is
Speaker 1: the hail storm that Lamar Jackson is and just the
Speaker 1: way he stresses defenses, the integrity that you know, your
Speaker 1: gap integrity has to be perfect, your fundamentals have to
Speaker 1: be absolutely perfect. Oh and then by the way, he
Speaker 1: can hit you with a one two punch with their
Speaker 1: backfield when the ball isn't in his hands. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they can play that road grading one game and just
Speaker 1: try to It's a beautiful thing to watch. And San
Speaker 1: Francisco is as good as anybody when it comes to defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are on a historic pace right now.
Speaker 1: If they can hold it in terms of their passing
Speaker 1: yards allowed that they're they're on pace to have the
Speaker 1: fewest passing yards allowed since nineteen sixty in the NFL,
Speaker 1: which in this age of renaissance, that's incredible. Pittsburgh, I
Speaker 1: should say, San Francisco Baltimore. Just seeing who comes out
Speaker 1: of that slug fest, it's gonna be really fun to watch. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's going to be I'm definitely gonna try to catch
Speaker 1: as many highlights of that game as I can, But
Speaker 1: for now, we do need to sign off on this
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