1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: M Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: West had kowits for coming to you here from our 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field. And this is our final show 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: of the week as we will take a break from 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: recording shows the rest of this week over the holiday. 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: So happy Thanksgiving to everyone out there. Hope you certainly 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: enjoy a day with family and friends. But West, because 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: it is our final show of the week, we might 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: as well dive right into Keys to Victory here. The 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Packers are headed to play the Giants in New Jersey 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Sunday noon Central time kickoff. The objective is to get 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: win number nine. So how do the Packers go about 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: doing that? Bringing up right now nfl g S I 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: S the the information system for the NFL, and I 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: can tell you confidently right now, the New York Giants 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: are thirty second in the league when it comes to 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: giveaways via the fumble fifteen lost fumbles minus eleven and 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: turnover differential this season. It's not very fancy. It's not 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: this big, huge, massive take. The Green Bay Packers have 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: been pretty good at points in this season. Taking the 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: ball away. They need to do that. And you know 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: the other thing is to see Kwon Barkley has been 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: much beligned here the last month, people kind of doubting 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: where he's been at. If he's healthy, the issues are 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: having running the ball. The Packers can't allow themselves to 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: be the comeback game here for Sae Kwon Barkley. He 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 1: needs to stay on that same trajectory. Fourteen carries twenty 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: eight yards, thirteen carries one yard, seventeen carries sixty yards. 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean this, this pattern he's been on. You can't 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: allow him to break out because that's what you've seen 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: in this league. He's a young man, he has a 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: lot of ability. If you allow him to be able 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: to break one early, it's going to make for a 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: long afternoon. So to me, there's the two biggest things 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: in this game. Take the ball away. If the fumbles 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: present themselves, the interception presents itself, execute on it. And 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: then just make sure that s Kwon Barkley doesn't run wild. Yeah, 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: And with regards to those comeback players, I'll add that 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: the Packers can't let this be Evan Ingram's big comebat game. 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: If he does return from the foot injury, which we 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: will see as the rest of the week goes along. 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: But we all know the problems the Packers have had 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: covering tight ends in the middle of the field. Ingram 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that Daniel Jones would love to rely on. 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: They'd love to build the entire passing attack around him 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: against a defense like Green Bays. So if Evan Ingram 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: is playing, or really whoever is playing tight end, but 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: certainly he's the most dynamic if he is healthy enough 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: to go, the Packers have got to do something about it. Wes. 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've seen Travis Kelsey, uh, Darren 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Waller from Oakland, um now obviously um yeah, Greg Olsen 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: from the Panthers, and obviously George Kittle from the forty Niners. 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Tight ends have been burning this defense, and the Packers 55 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: have got us somehow, some way find a way to 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: put a stop to it and start that trending in 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the other direction here down the stretch. Yeah, because if 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you go back independent of the Packers own issues defending 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the field and tight ends this season, 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: the last time New York's offense other than you know, 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: some promising signs last year for sake, Kwon Barkley. The 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: last time their offense really was feared was during Evan 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Ingram's rookie season when he went off for what eight 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: hundred yards, had a bunch of touchdowns, just really looked 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: like this guy was going to be a decade defining, 66 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: era defining tight end. What he looked like in him 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: coming out of the first round and the ability to 68 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: just jump right in there as a rookie, And how 69 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: many times have I said on the show how long 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: it takes for those type of players tight ends to 71 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: get it up to speed with the game, the speed 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: of the game. Evan Ingram didn't have those issues. Yeah, 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: he was high impact right away, but the issues he 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: has had is with injuries. And I'm glad you pointed 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: out Ingram because we could go at this time and 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I were discussing, Okay, well, if George Kittle plays, the 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Packers have to be ready for it. Devin Ingram plays, 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: you have to be ready for it, because, as Kittle showed, 79 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: even if a guy's coming off an injury like that, 80 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: he's still George Kittle. He could still burn you in 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And really that was the 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: biggest you know, not to steal Wayne's phrase here, but 83 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: dagger in that game was that the Packers just were 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: not able to come back mount the comeback they needed 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: without allowing the explosive play. And you can't allow Evan 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Gram to be that player. Yeah, I mean, I would 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: say also with regard to this game, I mentioned I 88 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: believe it was on yesterday's show that the Giants have 89 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: been outscored one to seven in the first quarter of 90 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: this year. It would really behoove the Packers to get 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: off to a fast start in this game. You're on 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: the road. Don't let a two and nine team on 93 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: a holiday weekend feel like they're going to be in 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: the game, feel like, you know, hey, they can they 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: can make a statement here by knocking off one of 96 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: the NFC's contenders. All that you have to you have 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: to jump on this team early, try to break their 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: spirit a little bit and uh and then you know, 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: really just just get back on track with what's been 100 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: successful and what's gotten the Packers eight victories this year, 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: which is which is using the running backs Aaron Jones 102 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: and Jamal Williams getting that defense to take the ball away. 103 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: As you were talking about, get back to what's one 104 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: you football games, and that that to me, really is 105 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: what this Sunday trip to play the Giants is all about. Yeah, 106 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: and especially from the offensive standpoint you mentioned defensively this 107 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: year Giants have had a really difficult time and it's 108 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: been kind of a pattern for them for about three 109 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: or four years now, where the unit that in the 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: late two thousands and even in early two thousand tens 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: was really stout, could dictate the tempo of the game, 112 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: had a lot of pressure, could take the ball away. 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: They've really had none of that the last five years 114 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: and this year it's kind of seeped into that as well. So, yeah, 115 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers and in the running backs perspective and 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: these offensive playmakers, this is where you have to get up. 117 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: You have to able to mount some offense and and really, 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, give it to the Giants the way that 119 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: they should be dominated. When you look at this on paper, again, 120 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: you can't look past the moment. How many times have 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: I said that this week? But this is the type 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: of game where you can't even allow them to be 123 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: in the game, I feel, especially being on the road. 124 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: You get this win, you host Washington next week, then 125 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: suddenly you find yourself at ten wins, you have to 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: earn them. But the Path of the Playoffs, to steal 127 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: my sponsor spor phrase is there for Green Bay. Well, 128 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: I'd like to bring Path to the Playoffs back to 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com sooner than later make an appearance last year, 130 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: did it? No, it hasn't made it. It hasn't made 131 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: an appearance. Well, actually I think the one right at 132 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: the game when Rogers was going to come back from 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: the collar bone. But then obviously the Packers were eliminated 134 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: after that. But yes, I would like to bring Path 135 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: to the Playoffs back to the website as a weekly 136 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: feature down the stretch here, but I think it's at 137 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: eight wins. It's a little too early to be to 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: go with that. But if you get to that ten marker, 139 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: that's the one you always talk about. And to be 140 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: at ten wins and then hosting the Chicago Bears at 141 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: home in week fourteen or week fifteen, excuse me, that's 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: that's the path. And the Giants are interesting because they 143 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: have played some teams tough, but they've just always been 144 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: in a position this year where they've kind of, you know, 145 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: shot themselves in the foot at the wrong time. And 146 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: it's costs the ball games. But I think last week's 147 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: showed against Chicago. If you play down to their level, 148 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: they will mount a challenge. So for Green Bay, I 149 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing, just getting off to a 150 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: fast start. We talked about it a lot, but they 151 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: haven't done it in two of these three losses. They 152 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: need to be able to do that. Yeah, I'm gonna 153 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: put you on the spot here in a set to it, 154 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna preface it by saying that neither you 155 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: nor I is an XS and OS expert. We don't 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: coach this game. We've never played this game at any 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: sort of high level. I the Howard Swamma Correct League 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: would very much, okayagree with you on that. All right, Well, 159 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: maybe I had three sacks and flag football my last year. 160 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the maybe the Platteville Rec League flag football 161 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: in middle school would would count. Give yourself what I 162 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: what I wanted to preface this with those I know 163 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: all the fans are asking, well, how do you how 164 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: do you go about guarding the tight ends? How do 165 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: you go about, you know, defending the middle of the field. 166 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't have the answers XS and OSE wise all 167 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: I know is I think the Packers have got to 168 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: try to find something different because what they have tried 169 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: to this point is not working. I'm gonna turn a 170 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: question out to you about the offense, because there are 171 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: a lot of questions right now, is to what is 172 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: going on with this Packers offense Since Davante Adams came back. 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: The offense was better statistically all across the board. The 174 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: offense was better in the four games that Adams was gone. 175 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: So what do the Packers have to do offensively with 176 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: Adams back in the lineup to get back to where 177 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: they were? And again I say, I'm putting you on this. No. 178 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: The thing I really liked from that Chargers game. I 179 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: know that sounds weird probably saying that coming out of 180 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: my mouth with everything that went wrong, but you know, 181 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: we talked about adaptation and Jason Wilde from the Athletic 182 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: and ESPN Wisconsin and all the other entities that Jason 183 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, works for right now, he did have an 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: interesting story last week about Matt Lafleur Kyle Shannon and 185 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: how they will like steal concepts from other teams. I 186 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: really liked that that first game against after Kansas City 187 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: all that motion and not and not really like formal motion, 188 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: like almost sort of like Arena League guys just moving 189 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: around in the backfield, not even really getting set before 190 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: the play. I really like that concept that they ran 191 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: with Hardman, and they ran at some with Tyreek Hill 192 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City did in that game against Green Bay. They 193 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: come out against the Chargers, they did the same exact 194 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: thing with Aaron Jones. I understand it went for a 195 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: one yard loss on the catch, but I really liked 196 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: it because it allows him to get open in space 197 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: and they haven't. That's the last time Aaron Jones. I 198 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: think it's called a ball if I remember correctly. Now, 199 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: the challenge here is that when they split Aaron Jones out, 200 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: now you're seeing more safety cornerback help than you did 201 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: when it was just a middle linebacker trailing him. You 202 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: can't do that. He's proven his hands are too good 203 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: and he's too fleet of foot. I still think there's 204 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: ways you can scheme him open. And for as many 205 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: times as Jamal Williams caught the ball last week, and 206 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: mind you, some of that was in garbage time late, 207 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: but he had seven catches, you have to be able 208 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: to put the ball in Aaron Jones hand outside the numbers. Okay, 209 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm laying that out as like one thing because my 210 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: original thought when Davante Adams came back is you have 211 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: these two weapons, established weapons in the National Football League. 212 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: That's going to be a challenge for defense is to 213 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: figure out how to scheme against them. Now, they've played 214 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: some pretty good units San Francisco. There's not a whole 215 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: lot that can be drawn out of that because I 216 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: think San Francisco is the best defense in the NFL 217 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: right now. But the games against Carolina in l A. 218 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: I think there were opportunities there the Packers were not 219 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: able to take advantage of. So whether it comes down 220 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: to the game plan coming in, sticking to the game plan, 221 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, finding different things that work for where the 222 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: offense is at. That's the challenge from Matt Lafleour this week. 223 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: It's a challenge of these offensive coaches in the weeks 224 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: to come. But they've they've been more spread out, they 225 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: haven't been doing as many condensed formations as they did 226 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: early on this season. I just I wrote it an 227 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: inbox this morning on Wednesday morning. I just feel like 228 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: you got to get back to doing what you do well, 229 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know in these last two losses if 230 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: we've really seen that, if you know what I mean, Yeah, no, 231 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: I hear you. I'll say this. And I don't like 232 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: to get into schematic discussions too much. I just wanted 233 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: to throw that one at you when I look at 234 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners game, and what sticks out 235 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: in my memory that that is one heck of a 236 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: defense that San Francisco has. I take nothing away from 237 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: it from them by any means. The two plays that 238 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: stick out to me in my mind that really worked 239 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: for the Packers and looked like they were the best 240 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: plays they ran all night eight the end around Alan 241 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Lazar and then the touch pass to Davante Adams going 242 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: in motion that went for a walk in touchdown. So 243 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: it was as though, okay, so those plays work. But 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: then all the other times the Packers were running the 245 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: motion and all that kind of stuff, the forty Niners 246 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: weren't biting. So the times that they actually did give 247 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: those guys the ball, those plays work. So do you 248 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: need to do you need to literally give those plays 249 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: more of a chance to get defenses to just play 250 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: you more. Honestly, I'm just I'm throwing it out there. Yeah, 251 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: and I actually did. Like I mean, both of those 252 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: plays might came out of those those bunch for more 253 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: informations we were talking about. In the Lazard one, I 254 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: really liked because for the last two years everyone's been 255 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: talking about Alan Lazar being you know, a hybrid you 256 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: know type receiver tight end. Yeah, line them up off 257 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: left tackle, let him come around on an end around. 258 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: He had the second. We had that little screen up 259 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: in the press box that shows you, like that must 260 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: be a next gen Stafford speed Alan Lazard, who have 261 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: buy a lot of people up they were he wasn't 262 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: fast enough to play in the NFL. Yeah, one of 263 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: the reasons he didn't get drafted. He had the second 264 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: fastest time on a play of any other player that night, 265 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: nineteen point eight. Miles pro Er was his peak speed 266 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: on that play. Yeah, get that guy the football in 267 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: those situations. I guess my point is, you know, giving 268 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: the ball to the receivers in those motion type situations, 269 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: maybe instead of doing it as a token thing, like, 270 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: actually build more off of that so that the defenses 271 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: really do have to honor it for the bulk of 272 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: the game. And then maybe it opens some opens up 273 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: some other things against defenses, like the forty Niners that 274 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, quite frankly looked like they knew everything that 275 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: was coming at him. So, you know, I really like 276 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: that that you mentioned that, because that was one of 277 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: the things when I was looking at the box score 278 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: last week going in this game, I'm like, wow, you know, 279 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: for as much motioning as the Packers have done, I 280 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: think maybe Trevor Davis had two carries, I think NBS 281 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: had one this season, they haven't actually fed the ball 282 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: a lot to the to they show, they show, they 283 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: show it a lot, they show it a lot. But 284 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's maybe it's time to actually just run though, 285 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: actually run those and give the ball to those guys 286 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: more often and make defenses play you more. Honestly, in 287 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: that respect, I don't know, And there is a lot 288 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: of variation that goes into all this, but when you 289 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: think about it, you go back to a month or 290 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: two ago with the Danny vitality, you know, wheel route 291 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: out of the backfield, those type of things. Those are 292 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: the things that defenses once they see them, they have 293 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: to scheme against them. And when you have more variation, 294 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: when you have more unpredictability. That's when things really kind 295 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: of open up. That the problem the Packers have been 296 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: stuck in in the game against the Charges and now 297 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: against the forty niners is when you fall behind the 298 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: way they did at halftime. Now you're spreading it out 299 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: a lot more. Now you aren't able to run as 300 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: much because the game situations definitely get into into how 301 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: you go about things in the second half. But what's 302 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: the difference, Mike, The Packers are eight in three when 303 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: they had those aid victories. It's being able to get 304 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: off too fast stars. It's being able to score off 305 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: that initial possession. We can talk until you know, however 306 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: long we want about certain schematic adjustments. If you score, 307 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: if you get that first drive right away off the bat, 308 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: that what ultimately gets you set up for the remainder 309 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: of the games. It sets the tone absolutely. Um Select 310 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: Cousin Subs locations West are now offering delivery. 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Man, those are the days the last 319 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: time the Packers played in Detroit and a very a 320 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: very forgettable one. Of the current NFL stadiums, there's only 321 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: one n RG and Houston I have not been to yet, 322 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: which I will check that box hopefully knock on wood 323 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: next year. Uh. The Ford Field is the only one 324 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: that I make up beeline for the for the food, 325 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: not because it's awesome, but because it runs out very quickly. Yeah, well, 326 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say I've covered I've covered Thanksgiving games 327 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: at Ford Field in two thousand seven, two thousand nine, 328 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, and two thousand thirteen. I have yet 329 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: to eat a bite of turkey at Ford Field Ford 330 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: because they always run out of food. I don't frequently 331 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: get timed at the forty, but if you had like 332 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: one of those highway guns, like in terms of like 333 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: measuring like speed, that thing, I'd be I'd be pushing 334 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: maximum speed on that thing because not that again, not 335 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: that the turkey is that good, but if you don't 336 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: get to the turkey, it's just potato salad. And you know, 337 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: you know Lettuce. I mean, ask Tom Silverstein from the 338 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Waukie Journal Sentinel about that. But okay, long story short, Chicago, Detroit. Yeah, 339 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's interesting to me. I don't know 340 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: what's happened the last few years where the Packers have 341 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: not been put on Thanksgiving ever since the Brett Farve 342 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: comeback game, because they played in thirteen in Detroit and 343 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: it was basically every other year they were going to 344 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: do every every odd number year, like I say, seven, nine, eleven, thirty, 345 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and then fifteen was the Bret for game here against 346 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: Chicago on Thanksgiving, which was a rainy night, just like 347 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: it is outside right now as we're taping the show. 348 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: But yes, since two thousand and fifteen, now the Packers 349 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: have not played on things like it's turned the world 350 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: on its access and now they can't find a way 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: to get back to equilibrium. No, but I mean the 352 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: Chicago Jeff Driscoll, if he plays David blows his back 353 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: up the former Perdue quarterback. Um, to me, this looks 354 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: like a game where Chicago should improve to six and six. 355 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: I don't see any other way around it. Their defense 356 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: is still pretty good, they have enough offensive weapons. I 357 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: just haven't seen anything from the Driscoll Lions offense to 358 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: suggest that they're going to win this game. Yeah, I 359 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: think the I think the Bears are looking at this 360 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: obviously as get to six and six and then they say, hey, 361 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, we have one more game and then we're 362 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: going to be playing the Green Bay Packers. So the 363 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Bears are looking at it saying, hey, if we can 364 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: get to seven and six and then come to lambeau 365 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: Field and knock off the Packers and get to eaten 366 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: six with two games to go, then it's like, hey, 367 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: you're still scoreboard watching in in that instance. But they're 368 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: hanging on by a thread and they're gonna try to 369 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: hang on as long as they can. They kind of 370 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: remind me a little bit of the Pittsburgh Steelers too, 371 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: because it's not like you're not playing for draft picks. 372 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean you're playing for wins. There aren't draft picks there, 373 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: so they got to get after this thing. I think 374 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: for Ryan Pace and and certainly for Matt Nagge, showing 375 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: that the steps that they made last year, they're not 376 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: that far off of that. But and and let's be 377 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: honest to Mike for Mitchell Trobiskie, it's got one month 378 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: here to show some real signs of improvement. Needs to 379 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: make those strides. Yeah, no question alright. Game number two 380 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, the Dallas Cowboys hosting the Buffalo Bills. A 381 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: lot of noise in Dallas from Jerry Jones and his 382 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: frustrations with losing to the Patriots last week and the 383 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys being six and five at this stage and the 384 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills at eight and three and looking to try 385 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: to stay on track for a playoff spot in the 386 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: a f C. But everybody questioning just how good the 387 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are based on their schedule and who they beat. 388 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: It really weird. I don't know what the Vegas ads 389 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: are in this game. I would still think that the 390 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys are favored, even though the issues they've had. But 391 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: here's the thing for Buffalo, this happened to him two 392 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: years ago with Sean McDermott's first year as I think 393 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: his first year as head coach. Maybe it was two 394 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: years ago. You gotta play that you gotta win the 395 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: games that are in front of you, and for the 396 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: most part they have. Now they've taken on the chin 397 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: a couple of times too, but you know that's a 398 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: good defense. Offensively, they do enough to win some of 399 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: these games. I still don't think they're overly dynamic with 400 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: what they do, but be that as it may, they're 401 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: playing the competition that they are. The Dallas Cowboys to 402 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: me have underachieved. I mean, they just have. And I 403 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: understand that that was a mud bowl, slot bowl on 404 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: Sunday night. You throw some of those different variables up. 405 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: They did not get the ball to Marie Cooper in 406 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: that ballgame. Zeke Elliott has been kind of up and 407 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: down this at points of this season when he has played. 408 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys are still in the lead of that division. 409 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: If you get to nine wins in the NFC East, 410 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: you have to be feeling okay about of playoff chances 411 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: at this point or at least winning that division. And 412 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Bills are eight and three. 413 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, the Cowboys need to win this game 414 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: if they are legitimately going to try to put together 415 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: any argument that they are a contender. And in the 416 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: night game, the New Orleans Saints getting a rematch from 417 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago against the Atlanta Falcons. This 418 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: one will be in Atlanta. The Falcons a few weeks 419 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: ago came off of their by at one and seven, 420 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: went into the super domin New Orleans and kind of 421 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: shocked the NFL world in a sense by not just 422 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: beating the Saints, but but quite frankly beating them handily. 423 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: And then the Falcons won another game and they were 424 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: looking like, Okay, they're putting everybody in the NFC on 425 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: notice who's on their schedule. Then last week they go 426 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: out and their defense sort of reverted to form and 427 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: they gave up a whole bunch of points to the 428 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and they lost again. Atlanta playing at 429 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: home against New Orleans. New Orleans trying to get to 430 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: ten and two and keep pace with those teams like 431 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: the forty Niners end the Seahawks that are sitting on 432 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: top of the NFC right now, To do the Saints 433 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: get the revenge? Here? Here's the thing, Yes, I would 434 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: think so, but Atlanta, I've I'm done trying to figure 435 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: them out. The one thing I will say, people are 436 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna look at it. They're gonna go nine and two 437 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: New Orleans against three and eight Atlanta. It's going to 438 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: be an entertaining football game, like it's going to be fun. 439 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: I just don't know if Atlanta is going to be 440 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: able to you know, lightning is going to strike twice there. Uh. 441 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: New Orleans has had ups and downs too, but every 442 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: single time they've had a lull, they've bounced right back. 443 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: And I just think when you look at their weapons, 444 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: what they offer, there are so many challenges for Atlanta 445 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to be able to stop them twice in a row. 446 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: And offensively, there were years where Matt Ryan could just 447 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: outshoot the other team. This hasn't been one of those years. 448 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna really exciting. I'll probably get 449 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: a chance to watch it on Thursday night, But other 450 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: than that, I don't know where that one's gonna end up. 451 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: It would be great for the Packers perspective, though. I mean, 452 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: if New Orleans would question kind of, you know, drop 453 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: their tea again, that's fine and Packers can make up 454 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: another game. Yeah, certainly certainly would help green Bay there. 455 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: If if Atlanta were to get the season sweep over 456 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: New Orleans quickly before we go, I have to get 457 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the game of the day in the 458 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: NFL coming up on Sunday, which is the San Francisco 459 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: forty Niners traveling across the country to Baltimore to face 460 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. I'm really disappointed we're not 461 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: gonna be able to watch this game because it's at 462 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: the same time as Packers Giants. I know you and 463 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: I'll be uh, you know, will be have a little 464 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: try to have a little window up on our screen, 465 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: on our computer screens, just to follow the play by 466 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: play a little bit and see how the score is 467 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: developing there. But what do you think of this game here? 468 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco at Baltimore. There's one matchup I want to 469 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: watch and it's Lamar Jackson in that offense against San 470 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: Francisco's defense. Because you know this is gonna be something 471 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: where you don't want to take these for granted, because 472 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: it reminds me of two thousand fourteen. Are the Packers 473 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: beat the Patriots? Is the last time that New England 474 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: lost that season And we were like, all right, super 475 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: Bowl preview and it doesn't work out that way. So 476 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: you want to appreciate for what it is. There's a 477 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: lot of things that can happen between now in February, 478 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: and even though these two look like front runners in 479 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: their respective conference, a lot of things can change. So 480 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 1: appreciate it for what it is. And that appreciation is 481 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: the hail storm that Lamar Jackson is and just the 482 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: way he stresses defenses, the integrity that you know, your 483 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: gap integrity has to be perfect, your fundamentals have to 484 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: be absolutely perfect. Oh and then by the way, he 485 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: can hit you with a one two punch with their 486 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: backfield when the ball isn't in his hands. So yeah, 487 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: they can play that road grading one game and just 488 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: try to It's a beautiful thing to watch. And San 489 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: Francisco is as good as anybody when it comes to defense. 490 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they are on a historic pace right now. 491 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: If they can hold it in terms of their passing 492 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: yards allowed that they're they're on pace to have the 493 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: fewest passing yards allowed since nineteen sixty in the NFL, 494 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: which in this age of renaissance, that's incredible. Pittsburgh, I 495 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: should say, San Francisco Baltimore. Just seeing who comes out 496 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: of that slug fest, it's gonna be really fun to watch. Yeah, yeah, 497 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: that's going to be I'm definitely gonna try to catch 498 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: as many highlights of that game as I can, But 499 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: for now, we do need to sign off on this 500 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: edition of Packers on Scripted'd be sure to follow all 501 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team, including Sunday afternoons game 502 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: against the Giants that will all be on Packers dot com. 503 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: Subscribed to us, like us on iTunes and other podcast services, 504 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: and check out the Packers YouTube channel. Happy Thanksgiving everybody, 505 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. We will see you next time.