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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, welcome to metast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am

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Speaker 2: here at Media HQ and Bozeman. That's one pm in

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Speaker 2: my hometown of Edinburgh, Pennsylvania, where archery season. Archery white

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Speaker 2: tail season is now open for all you bow guys

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Speaker 2: and crossbow guys. Yeah, arrow guns we call them. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Brody. I'm joined today by the only person

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Speaker 2: who occasionally threatens my total domination of mediator trivia, Randall Williams.

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Speaker 2: You beat me yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And what's that It's not really a spoiler. I mean

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Speaker 3: not really if someone's expecting it already.

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Speaker 2: We've also got Jordan Siller's Uh he's our very own

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Speaker 2: expert on all things firearms, aren't you?

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Speaker 3: I do my best?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I read your stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's goods.

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Speaker 2: This week, we've got a couple of great interviews Versus

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Speaker 2: about a huge public access win here in Montana. And

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Speaker 2: we're also going to be talking to that you like this, Jordan,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking to someone about shooting great big

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Speaker 2: game animals with little dinky rifle cartridges. And uh, first,

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Speaker 2: since this is white tail week at Meat Eater, Uh,

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Speaker 2: when we celebrate all things white tail hunting. We're also

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Speaker 2: going to share uh some white tail buck stuff, a

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Speaker 2: throwback Thursday, and and a white tail dream hunt deal

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Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about. Uh speaking of white

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Speaker 2: Tail Week, which is brought to you by by our

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Speaker 2: friends at sigsur. Not only do we have deals across

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Speaker 2: all the media to brands, including up to forty percent

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Speaker 2: off at first Light, and there's great deals on the

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Speaker 2: Mediator website too, we're also dropping a steady supply of

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Speaker 2: fresh whitetail content. We're running a real fun competition to

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Speaker 2: decide which state is the best whitetail hunting state. You

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Speaker 2: can go check that out at the mediater dot com.

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Speaker 2: Go check out first light dot com to get yourself

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Speaker 2: outfitted for like all the different conditions you're going to

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Speaker 2: run into during three four months of white tail season.

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Speaker 2: So like there's something there you're gonna find that you need,

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Speaker 2: and you don't even have to be a white tail hunter.

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Speaker 2: Take advantage of this sale. There's all there's like all

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Speaker 2: kinds of all purpose stuff on sale at first Light

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Speaker 2: too and again discounted mercht at the mediater dot com.

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Speaker 2: So get on there. How long is this thing go

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Speaker 2: on till Sunday.

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Speaker 4: That would be a good question.

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Speaker 2: I think you got a couple few more days to

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Speaker 5: It's all over the web stever here, he'd go, Come on, Randall, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he wouldn't know either, though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're busy doing this stuff. We can't keep

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Speaker 2: track of everything, and we're so busy that we're gonna

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Speaker 2: skip the chit chat today because we have a lot

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Speaker 2: of a lot we're going to cover and in place

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Speaker 2: of chit chat, real quick, Jordan, you haven't been on

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Speaker 2: the show that much, so introduce yourself sure, and tell

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Speaker 2: everyone real quick about your the crazy new podcast you're doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, I'm Jordan Sillers. I'm a managing editor for

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Speaker 6: the website and then I also help Cal with his podcast,

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Speaker 6: Cal's Week in Review. Starting up a new podcast. We

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Speaker 6: launched a pilot episode in March that you may have seen.

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Speaker 6: It's called Blood Trails. It's a true crime podcast about hunters, anglers, campers, hikers,

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Speaker 6: you know, everyone sort of in our world and really

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Speaker 6: excited about it. We have eight episod so it's coming

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Speaker 6: out in this first season. We have a story of

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Speaker 6: a hunter who disappeared under very suspicious circumstances. We have

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Speaker 6: a story of a hunter who was found stabbed seventeen

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Speaker 6: times and the medical examiner ruled a suicide.

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Speaker 2: So that's Randa, Where were you during that time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd have to know. I need the details because

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Speaker 4: I was not involved. Noted noted.

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Speaker 6: There's a story of a hunter who was shot with

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Speaker 6: his own rifle. Uh, and there's thoughts about whether it

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Speaker 6: was someone close to him who may have done it.

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Speaker 6: So lots of really interesting stories. We think it's you know,

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Speaker 6: we hope people like it and we're really excited.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean, of course they're gonna like it.

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Speaker 2: Like the true crime genre is like bananas these days,

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Speaker 2: and and I think you've already got like the hunting

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Speaker 2: crowd locked in, So you need to market this to

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Speaker 2: like suburban soccer moms who there you go spend their

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Speaker 2: time watching true crime? Well, hey on Netflix.

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Speaker 6: Right listen if if you love me eater content and

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Speaker 6: you've always wanted to get your wife to watch or

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Speaker 6: listen to me eater content, Yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 6: for you. You know, you guys can do this together.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm just bringing you know, strengthening relationships.

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Speaker 5: Do this every time I get into Sydney's car to

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Speaker 5: go somewhere with her. As soon as the cars powered on,

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Speaker 5: it's just immediately then he plunged the dagger in up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And one thing I just wanted to say, so, speaking

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Speaker 6: of the true crime genre, a lot of it out

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Speaker 6: there is you know, it's it's someone they read some

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Speaker 6: new stories, they read Wikipedia and that's and then they

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Speaker 6: kind of chat about it. This is not that, this

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Speaker 6: is original reporting. I talked to the people, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I talked to the people who were involved, as long

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Speaker 6: as they're willing to talk to me, the family of

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Speaker 6: the victim, the law enforcement who investigated it, and we

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Speaker 6: tell you things that no one else has reported before.

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Speaker 5: And I will say too, like the the genre occasionally

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Speaker 5: leans into like the lurid, sure voyeuristic, and this is

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Speaker 5: very much not that. It's very much like straightforward, empathetic

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Speaker 5: reporting about pretty tragic situation.

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Speaker 2: I just gave Jordan a lead today or yesterday on

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Speaker 2: something that maybe someday will end up in the podcast.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to say any more about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, guys, we're gonna move on because we

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Speaker 2: got a bunch to talk about today. For our first

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Speaker 2: interview today, we've got Mike Coutz. I hope I pronounce

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Speaker 2: that right. Mike is the vice president of Access and

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Speaker 2: Infrastructure at American Prairie, which was formerly American Prairie Reserve.

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Speaker 2: They recently simplified it and they're just American Prairie now.

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Speaker 2: I hope I'm getting that right. Anyway, American Prairie is

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Speaker 2: an organization with a goal restoring and preserving short grasp

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Speaker 2: prairie ecosystems in central in northern Montana. It's an ecosystem

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Speaker 2: that's kind of suffering all over the country, and these

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Speaker 2: Montana and a big part of that plan they're what

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Speaker 2: wild bison populations in that part of Montana. We've got

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us today. Having us to start out,

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Speaker 2: just give folks like the real quick version of who

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Speaker 7: Sure, sure so.

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Speaker 1: American Prairie is a Montana based nonprofit. We've been around

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Speaker 7: To and our work is to.

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Speaker 1: Buy and acquire land that we manage for public access

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Speaker 1: and for wildlife habitat along the Missouri Breaks and the

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Speaker 1: Charles M. Russell National Wildlife Refuge, so that eventually we

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Speaker 1: have enough habitat to restore and intact prairie short grass ecosystem.

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Speaker 1: And we work on a willing buyer, willing selling, willing

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Speaker 2: How many total acres, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Right now we're sitting in about six hundred and three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, my favorite part of the state up there

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Speaker 2: a willing seller, willing buyer situations when you're acquiring these properties,

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Speaker 2: but I'd kind of be remiss to like not address

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Speaker 2: like there's definitely like some pushback from some of the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think any big conservation project is not without controversy,

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Speaker 1: and we're certainly no exception to that. So when you

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Stop American Praiority signs.

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Speaker 7: Those are produced.

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Speaker 1: By United Property Owners of Montana, which I encourage anyone

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Speaker 1: what they're about. And some of this is simply, you know,

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Speaker 7: Together, you find that actually we have great relationships.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know head on, we are not

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Agriculture does great. The reason that we can do this

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Speaker 1: the good stewardship that Montana ranchers have carried out for

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Speaker 2: And something I'll point out is that on like I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again that's you know, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: when folks say, hey, there's controversy around this, a lot

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Speaker 1: get cast as like these bison folks who want wild

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Speaker 1: bison everywhere. We manage our bison as livestock, so we

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Speaker 1: disease test them. They're contained behind fences. They're not wild,

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Speaker 1: free roaming bison. They're an important part of conserving them

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Speaker 1: as a species, but they're not wild and free roaming.

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Speaker 1: And we have about eight hundred and fifty bison right

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Speaker 7: We have over seven thousand cattle on our properties. So

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Speaker 7: most of our properties, the grazer that does.

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Speaker 1: That role in the ecosystem, you know, which again is

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Speaker 1: a really important one, is cattle. And again, I was

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Speaker 1: listening to Cal on the Joe Rogan podcast this week

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Speaker 1: And so hearing him talk to Joe about that was awesome.

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Speaker 7: But but again I think that's and not to give

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Speaker 2: No, no, we'll make sure he hears this, for sure.

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Speaker 7: We don't.

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Speaker 4: We don't let go any chance to correct cal On.

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Speaker 7: He's just a mess, But he's a good guy.

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Speaker 7: Sure we're out here talking to folks.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're a bunch of Montana's We're a Montana

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Speaker 2: Randall's wife last year took advantage of that and got herself.

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Speaker 5: But honestly, the one of the coolest, wildest hunting experiences

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Speaker 2: So beyond the bison thing, like, you can go on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this has been one of the things

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Speaker 1: This we were so excited about this we opened.

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Speaker 7: The road right away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and said, look, you know this, this one's too

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Speaker 7: We're going to open it at least this section.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's just one of the most historic parts

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Speaker 1: It's you know, part of the Cow Creek which runs

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Speaker 7: Into the Bears Paw Mountains, the Bullwhacker Road.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's named that because there were guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: And prairie canyons, and you know, an incredible place to

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Speaker 2: And again again like this, this will now open up

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Speaker 1: Correct, yep, exactly, And so I mean again, a lot

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Speaker 1: it it opens up this amount of public land too.

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Speaker 1: You know, we a couple of years ago we bought

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Speaker 2: Of two tracks across the Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So wherever possible we do that.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, as you mentioned, you know, the vast majority

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Speaker 5: And Mike that when that seventy three ranch sold, I mean,

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Speaker 5: But someone was going to buy that land, right like,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just a big win.

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Speaker 1: And both of those properties too are examples of you know,

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's a net positive.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the room having given a presentation last

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Speaker 2: This is supposed to be good news, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Well, so here's the other, you know, to set up

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Speaker 7: And that's a big.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So got asked, new property, is it open to hunting?

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Speaker 1: And as you were saying, you know, b M A contracts,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it just wasn't the timing wasn't right.

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Speaker 1: So I'd say, stay tuned, you know, we'll have a

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Speaker 2: So but what about but the road is open, road

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Speaker 1: So so folks can access all of the BLM and

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Speaker 7: Watch the weather forecast. Right now.

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Speaker 7: You know, you got to do your homework before you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: I think again, we recognize, hey, being around for twenty years,

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Speaker 7: They've heard of.

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Speaker 1: So I'd say continue to look to us to you know,

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Speaker 1: Like, we buy properties that have conservation easements on them.

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Speaker 1: the state of Montana to create a state park at

442
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: Judith Landing. You know, we open previously landlocked public land

443
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: across our deeded roads and then assume the costs of

444
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: maintaining those roads. So I'd say, continue to judge us

445
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: on what we do. And you know, I think we

446
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: often say, look, you know, we're not asking for support

447
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: or endorsement, you know.

448
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 7: Do your homework, come to your own conclusion.

449
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: But we do ask for understanding, like just just understand

450
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: what we're actually doing. And in terms of public access, yeah,

451
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to look a lot like

452
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: what you see right now, where you know, we're in

453
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: the top ten largest landowners in the state enrolled in

454
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: that block management access program with FVP, They're an incredible

455
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: agency to work with for your listeners outside the state.

456
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Montana is truly the last best place I

457
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: think as an outdoors person and as a hunter in particular.

458
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 7: So it's a lot of it.

459
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's over eighty thousand acres available to hunt

460
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: in that program. We're building a couple more backcountry huts

461
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: in our huts system over the next two years, so

462
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: you'll see more of those and just more chances to

463
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: explore different parts of the prairie. Those have you've been

464
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: up there, know that you know some of it. It's

465
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: like incredibly steep, rugged Missouri breaks, ponderosa pines, kind of

466
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: bighorn sheep habitat, and then you get out on other

467
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: parts and it's kind of the rolling sagebrush sea, and

468
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: you know, we want to create opportunities for people to

469
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: go out and explore that and understand why this place

470
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: is so special and so worth.

471
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 7: Protecting and handing on to the next generation.

472
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: Cool. What can people do to support you if they're

473
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: interested in doing.

474
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: That, I'd say, you know, hey, from my standpoint, it's

475
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: come out and visit us. You can come out and

476
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: see what it looks like on the ground, and you

477
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: can plan a trip by just going to our website,

478
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: American Prairie dot org. We do have campgrounds, we have huts,

479
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: but you can also just go out and load up

480
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: your backpack and walk off, you know, you know, and

481
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: and spend the night. So I just encourage people to

482
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: go up there and make a visit and put your

483
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: name in the hat for the bison harvest we offer.

484
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, I've done it so far. I'm having

485
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: drawn Mike, so, you know, just saying just saying, thanks

486
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: a lot, Mike, it was great talking to you. We'll

487
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: have to check back in with you, you know, and

488
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: if something's happening, get in touch with us and and

489
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: we'll talk again.

490
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 7: We'll do we'll do all right. Thanks man, We'll see

491
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 7: you guys.

492
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time to move on to some white Tail

493
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: week stuff. We're gonna do a throwback Thursday white Tail edition.

494
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: Go back on.

495
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 5: A Thursday, Mom, Stephen Rody, take me back to night.

496
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Did I mentioned Stephen Rody Old Ship.

497
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: I think you've mentioned that, Yeah, several times.

498
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 4: I think.

499
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: All right, guys, this is where we're gonna We're gonna

500
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: pull out the the memories today and let you guys

501
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: share some some white tail stuff with us. I think

502
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: you're up first, Randall already.

503
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: Phil, Oh, yes, I'll point out this picture is colored

504
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 5: very strangely. It's an archaic digital camera. It captures my

505
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: skin tone and blaze orange in a really weird way.

506
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 5: But that blood trail on the right, oh yeah, real nice.

507
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: This This, this is my biggest whitetail buck. I was

508
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 5: working construction at the time in two thousand and eight,

509
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 5: and I was going to go down to a property

510
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 5: in Kentucky that we had permission to hunt. And on Friday,

511
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: I was at the job site, had my truck all

512
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: loaded up, and they pulled me aside and told me

513
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 5: I was getting let go. And as soon as as

514
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: soon as they handed me my Cobra paperwork for poor

515
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: performance No.

516
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 7: No.

517
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: Two thousand and eight, man, oh, I got yeah. It

518
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: was a big slowdown. So they I said, you know,

519
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 5: I'm twenty two. I think it'll be fine, and I'm

520
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 5: going deer hunting. So my buddy went down there and

521
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 5: hunted with me the first weekend. I just stayed through

522
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 5: the week, and then he came down for the second

523
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 5: weekend and on day there's probably like day nine This

524
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: is what I mean. This is my idea of whitetail hunting.

525
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 5: Was just I'm gonna sit in the same tree for

526
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: like eight days, nine days in a row. I had

527
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: a little crotchboard set up there, and at some point,

528
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 5: like my buddy was just going to walk across the

529
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 5: property at about ten or eleven o'clock. Yeah, it's it's

530
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: like a hilltop property that's sort of balled on top,

531
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 5: and then like real dense stuff going down these fingers

532
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 5: down to the creek. So my buddy went across and

533
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 5: I could hear him walking, and then all of a sudden,

534
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: this buck. I'm basic set up on an old tractor road,

535
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: like an old tractor path going down this hill, and

536
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: this buck just crosses, and so I whip around and

537
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 5: shoot off the back of the tree as he's about

538
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 5: to dive back into the woods, and he turns and

539
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: runs straight away from me, and I got off another shot.

540
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: Sort of ironic that we're talking Tyler here in a bit,

541
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 5: because that was with a forty five seventy shooting.

542
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: Uh, because Ohio is well this shotguns and straight walls,

543
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: this is this is Kentucky. Oh that was Kentucky.

544
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: I got you.

545
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 5: Well, it's just because the romance of the big straight

546
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 5: wall carches the size of your finger and turns out

547
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: that first shot missed, but that second one the trick

548
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 5: did the old did the old Texas heart shot very good,

549
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: entered just inside of the ham right near the anus,

550
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 5: came out the front of that left hip and uh,

551
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 5: yeah it.

552
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: Was now it happened. That's not a shot that we

553
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: would reckon men here at meat Eater. But Randall is

554
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: like such a marksman.

555
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: Well that was a follow up.

556
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 6: I know, we don't really think that.

557
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, and.

558
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 5: You know we went over there and and actually the

559
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: the landowner who was their scout masters showed up like

560
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 5: right then, and he's he's British and doesn't I mean,

561
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 5: he was just excited to have us hunting there and.

562
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: Oh you got a buck, you got a book, let's

563
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: see it.

564
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: And he drove the tractor down and we chained up

565
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: to the he like just fixed up antique tractors.

566
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: Then we hauled that thing up out of the bottom

567
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: and that was all. She wrote.

568
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: That's still your biggest buck to date, biggest whitetail buck

569
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, where where is that? What's where is that?

570
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: Thing.

571
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: Now. Oh, it's I've got in my home office.

572
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: I've got like nine deer heads just kind of scattered

573
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 5: on the little wall above it.

574
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Youro mount. That's a homemade ero mount too nice.

575
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, nice fun place. I wish I still uh

576
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 5: got to hunt that every year because yeah, deer in

577
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: the rut with a rifle.

578
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: Yep, speaks to me.

579
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: All right, Jordan, you're up next. Let's see what you

580
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: got here.

581
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: All right.

582
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 6: So this isn't from super long ago. This is a

583
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 6: few years ago. This was out of property pretty near

584
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 6: to where we live in East Texas, and I really

585
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 6: like it. It's I don't own it, but we have

586
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 6: permission to hunt it, and I like it because it's

587
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: so close to our house. I can take the kids,

588
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 6: you know, evening Sunday evening, which is when I shot

589
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 6: this buck. And I also like remembering this hunt because

590
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 6: it was I don't think it was quite the last

591
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 6: day of the season, but it was the last day

592
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 6: that I was gonna hunt. I think it was right

593
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 6: before the last day, and this buck came in like

594
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 6: five minutes maybe before shooting light ended. If if he'd

595
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 6: been in the tree line I was looking at in

596
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 6: the stand. I might not have you know, been able

597
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 6: to see him, but he came in across a field

598
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 6: and so I could see a silhouette, you know, against

599
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 6: the the sky that was still bright. And in Texas

600
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: we have antler restrictions, so it has to be thirteen

601
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 6: inches between. And I saw him, you know, silhouetted against

602
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 6: the sky, and I said, looks good. It looks looks

603
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 6: like it's going to be good. So shot him from

604
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 6: maybe fifty yards it was not a far shot with

605
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 6: with a six or five creed more and he went,

606
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 6: you know, maybe forty or fifty yards, but he ran

607
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 6: kind of into the tree line, and so there was

608
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 6: a little bit of tension. And my son was with

609
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 6: me and he you know, if hunting ever becomes boring

610
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 6: or you know, kind of a drudgery, like take an

611
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 6: eight year old boy, you know with you. Because he

612
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: was the most stickxcited.

613
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: He was high five.

614
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: Was that the first deer had been a part of it?

615
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 6: Was Yeah, he'd been around when I'd brought deer home

616
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 6: to like, you know, clean him and butcher them. But

617
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 6: this was the first one, the first hunt that he'd

618
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 6: been a part of.

619
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: Is he now, is he hot?

620
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 8: Now he is.

621
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he got he got a doe last year.

622
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh great, yeah, great.

623
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

624
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 6: So he came down with, you know, with me, and

625
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 6: I like wanted to do it right, like find some blood,

626
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: follow the trail, but he just like right into the woods,

627
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 6: you know, and of course he found it first, and

628
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 6: just like that's excited.

629
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's okay, Well cool, you get you gonna get

630
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: him after a buck this year?

631
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 6: He yeah, he wants to. Yeah that's for sure, but

632
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 6: we'll see, all.

633
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Right, guess that leaves me. This is when was this like, I.

634
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: Don't know, mid two thousands, A little.

635
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: No, it's like same, same camera quality as similar right.

636
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Around the same time as would you say, oh wait.

637
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet this camera ran on a double a battery.

638
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 6: Yes.

639
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, this is back in Pennsylvania where like this is

640
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: a place I grew up hunting. This my buddy buddy's

641
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: dad's land. My buddy's dad has now passed away, but

642
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: my buddy still hunts his property.

643
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 5: And this this was.

644
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: The first like big nice buck I had ever shot

645
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. Grew up deer hunting. But like when I

646
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 2: was growing up, man like there just wasn't very many

647
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: big bucks around like this one. They just didn't live

648
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: long enough. We would see a shit ton of deer hunting,

649
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: but it would be like twenty two does and a

650
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: spike in a day of hunting, and like you just

651
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: shot whatever buck you had a chance to shoot. This

652
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: picture was taken I think maybe a couple years after

653
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: they the state implemented Antler point restrictions. In Pennsylvania's Antler

654
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: point restrictions aren't like.

655
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: With like Texas.

656
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: It's at the time it was most of the state

657
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: was three on one side, and this in northwestern Pennsylvania

658
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: it was three on one side plus a brow time

659
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: and a lot of guys were like very against this

660
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: new regulation at the time, but it really started paying

661
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: off quickly, Like you know, a percentage like of those

662
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Speaker 2: year and a half old bucks, a large percentage of

663
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: those year and a half old bucks that would have

664
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: gotten shot now had a chance to at least get

665
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: to another year. And now in Pennsylvania, like they're killing

666
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: big bucks, which was just not a thing that happened

667
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: very often when I was a kid. So yeah, that's

668
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: like my one and only nice big Pennsylvania buck there.

669
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Speaker 1: Nice.

670
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Speaker 6: The same thing happened in Texas where people were very

671
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Speaker 6: against the Antler restrictions.

672
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

673
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 6: First and now you talk to pretty much everyone and

674
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 6: they say it was a good thing. Yeah, you know,

675
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 6: we're seeing a lot more big deer.

676
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: It works. Some places, it doesn't work others they've like

677
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: Colorado tried it with mule deer. It was just like

678
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: it didn't work, just like it was a failed experiment.

679
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: But like it's definitely worked in Pennsylvania. All right, Phil,

680
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: do we got some action in the chat?

681
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: Got a lot of action. Oh geez, I'm being less

682
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: picky about my questions here since getting so many complaints

683
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: about it.

684
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Speaker 2: Leland.

685
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: I've heard you ask this question, I think for a

686
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: month now, so I'm just gonna bring it up. Let's

687
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: get it out of the way. What are the functional

688
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: differences between alpaca and marino wool? If any, if any

689
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: of you can speak to this.

690
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: This question should be directed to the experts at first light.

691
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, this sounds like yeah, why I question?

692
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: Sorry, Leland, thanks for being here.

693
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: Never tried out packa socks.

694
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: Here we go. Question for Randall and the chat regarding

695
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: hot dogs? Anyone made Venison hot dogs? Have you done this? Randall?

696
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 4: Tips?

697
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 5: If not? Steve and I were just talking yesterday about

698
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: making a video trying to make the best venison hot dog.

699
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, close as I've come is making brats you do.

700
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: I mean, my understanding is that you do truly to

701
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 5: address the last sentence there. You do truly have to

702
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: emulsify it, just make it into goo. The tough thing

703
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 5: is going to be the snap. So we're we're discussing

704
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 5: that yesterday. You want a good, a good positive snap

705
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: on the dog. But we will hopefully address this in

706
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: a video at some point.

707
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: Cool uh Ian asks on the heels of the CLBD podcast,

708
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: how often do you guys get your deer and elk tested?

709
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: I get them all or there with signs on the animal,

710
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: cause I've just gone to get.

711
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: Them all tested.

712
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 7: Man.

713
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: And in some places, like where I'm gonna hunt in

714
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: Colorado this year, it's mandatory. In other places it's a voluntary.

715
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: But I've just like I got, I just get them

716
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: all tested.

717
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 5: Now, I just I test them when they're required. And

718
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 5: uh obviously like in Montana here we have big game

719
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: checkpoints and so they sort of catch you in a

720
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: funnel to track animals moving across the state. And so

721
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: at some of those still test, But yeah, I haven't.

722
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever voluntarily submitted something for testing.

723
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had kids, proud of that, if you

724
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: had kids, you might.

725
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 8: Look at it.

726
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 4: Or if I valued my own health.

727
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not.

728
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a joke. That's a joke.

729
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: I know, Jordan, you doing that down and those Texans

730
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: just care.

731
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

732
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: Well.

733
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Speaker 6: Our our CWD problem, you know, tends to be with

734
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Speaker 6: the breeding facilities.

735
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Well, it's like that everywhere. I mean when you look

736
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: at like the spread a map from like the US

737
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: I think it's the USGS. Maybe it's fish and wildlife.

738
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you can look at a map

739
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: and see where these outbreaks start and it's like almost

740
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: guarantee that in the center of that thing, Yeah, there's

741
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: a high fence.

742
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there are I know, there are areas where

743
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 6: the wild population, you know, there is a problem, and

744
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 6: there may be mandatory testing there, but not where where

745
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 6: I'm hunting.

746
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: So, speaking of kids, question for Brody and Jordan. Adam's

747
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: taking a six year old daughter on her first hunt

748
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: this weekend, DIY blind in the woods. Do I let

749
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: her try and shoot or just sit and watch me

750
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: do it. I want to give her a good experience.

751
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: There's too many unknowns here, like has she practiced, has

752
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: she put in the time, does she want to? Does

753
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: she want to? Has she been exposed to it at

754
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: all yet?

755
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: I what hunt?

756
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm assuming deer, but I don't know. I'm assuming it's

757
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: a deer from in my opinion, like you see a

758
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: lot of pictures of five six year old kids like

759
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: holding the buck up. In my opinion, it's a little

760
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: too early simply because they don't really know what they're doing.

761
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: They like don't understand it yet. It's not that you

762
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: can't set them up with a rifle that'll work and

763
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I would probably do the shooting

764
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Speaker 2: and see how she reacts if she hasn't had any

765
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: exposure to it yet.

766
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 6: Jordan, Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. And you know,

767
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 6: if you get something that's plenty of excitement for us, sure.

768
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Speaker 2: And walk walk through the skin and in the gut

769
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: and all like all that stuff tends to like as

770
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: long as you don't be like this is going to

771
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: be a little gross, like don't do any of that,

772
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: Just like do it, and they're probably going to be fascinated.

773
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, Jackson asks, do you think the same arguments

774
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Speaker 3: against crossbows aka arrow guns, according to Rody, should be

775
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: applied to the use of TSS turkey loads and long

776
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: range rifles. Never used a crossbow, but I've always thought

777
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: that the hate was odd. I agree.

778
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't get the hate. What's he talking about turkey loads?

779
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the super No, Like there's.

780
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: Like no way. They're just like like you're arguing against

781
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: being more effective at killing turkeys, Like I don't. I

782
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: don't agree with that, and I don't think there's like

783
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: any possible way you could.

784
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 4: Like turn back the clock, turn back the clock.

785
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: And the long range rifles, it's like like I don't

786
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: see how you could even come up with an enforceable regulation.

787
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the only thing, the only thing that

788
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 5: I'm familiar with is the Idaho restriction on you can't

789
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 5: have a rifle heavier than sixteen pounds. I had no idea,

790
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 5: and I do have a rifle that what doesn't mean

791
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 5: that Idaho right restriction?

792
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but no, I should really own rifle.

793
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: But I agree, like the arguments like against crossbows, like

794
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Like everybody's like, oh, this

795
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: sky's falling, all the deer are going to get killed. Like,

796
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: why you can go hunt elk with a crossbow as

797
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: far as I know in Wyoming during archery season and

798
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: like there hasn't been like any change there's and there's

799
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: still plenty of white tails where crossbows are eagle.

800
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 8: Like.

801
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: I don't get the.

802
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 6: Hate, but whatever.

803
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: Some some bow hunters, I'd rather that they have a crossbow,

804
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 5: sure for the sake of the animals.

805
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I know there's people other people here at

806
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: Meteor that probably wouldn't agree.

807
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: With the cross both.

808
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 5: I started hunting with a crossbow because I didn't have

809
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: like an archery background. My parents didn't hunt, but I was.

810
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: They were encouraging and you could go out and get

811
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 5: a crossbow and you knew how to site it in

812
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 5: and yeah we're drilling deer at you know, fifty yards

813
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 5: and super effective.

814
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: Yeah what do you think?

815
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I agree, it's you know, fears of

816
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 6: all the deer being gone definitely overblown. I think if

817
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 6: you've spent you know, hours and hours trying to shoot

818
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 6: a compound bow accurately and then someone comes in with

819
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: the crossbow, I I do understand that, but you could

820
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 6: say the same.

821
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: You could say this like the trad bow guys could

822
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: say the same exact thing, like those pound guys. It's

823
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: so easy. They got sites and all. Like it's just

824
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: a never ending cascade of arguments method of take arguments

825
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: that end up just being horseshit.

826
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 6: As far as far as I'm concerned, Yeah, yeah, I

827
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: think the the whatever species population that should be the

828
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 6: first concern. Yeah, you know, and if that's not a concern,

829
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 6: it's maybe not worth getting two worked up about.

830
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: There you go anymore fail.

831
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: I mean, we've had a lot of it. Let's do

832
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: one more than save the rest for the end of

833
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: the show, and then any additional one. Since the publishing

834
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: team is here, when is meat Eater going to come

835
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: out with a book made for babies?

836
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you're gonna see that. Never

837
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: say never. Maybe Jordan will write one. Oh you're still

838
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: having babies?

839
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 6: We have a one and a two year old, man.

840
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm like way past that point.

841
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 8: Man.

842
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't even remember what it was like for my kids.

843
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 4: To be babies.

844
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: And and I'll just put out there that we know

845
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 5: what books were writing until till we die.

846
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 4: At this point.

847
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, not something i'd count on, right. All right,

848
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: we're all done with those film.

849
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: Well unless you want to keep going, but we can.

850
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 3: We've got the end of this time, is it. We're

851
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: running a little long.

852
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: So let's move on to our next interview. All right, everybody.

853
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: Our next guest is Tyler Freele, who is a writer

854
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: for Outdoor Life and he hosts his own podcast called

855
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: Tundra Talk. And if you didn't catch Tyler on the

856
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: Meat Eater podcast, we had him on AK I don't

857
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: know a year like this morning season I think yeah,

858
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: episode five oh six, you can you can check it out.

859
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: And if you're not familiar with his work, just like

860
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Siller's here, he has a wealth of knowledge about

861
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: firearms and rifle cartridges in particular, and that's mostly what

862
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna chat about with him today. Tyler, you on

863
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: the line, buddy, Yeah, I think so great. Thanks for

864
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: joining us from up and up in Fairbanks, Alaska.

865
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 8: I'm in I'm in Wyoming right now.

866
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: Oh man, what do you hunt?

867
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 7: What do you.

868
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 8: I shot a nice antelope yesterday.

869
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: Great, I'm about to do that in a week or

870
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: so before we get into shooting. Great, big animals with

871
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: teeny little rifle cartes. How'd your moose hunt go?

872
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 8: Uh, it was pretty disappointing this year.

873
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: That's funny because I heard the same from from other people.

874
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: It was tough hunt this year up there.

875
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I don't people like to blame it

876
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 8: on a lot of things. We we spent fourteen days hunting,

877
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 8: and the first ten days are kind of in the

878
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 8: prime time, and where we hunt, we have to call them.

879
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 8: We're just in this swop that you can't there's a

880
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 8: couple of spots we can see.

881
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: But you hunt out of a elevated stand, don't you.

882
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

883
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 8: We we got a big tripod so you can get

884
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 8: up over the brush. Otherwise you just just can't see anything. Yeah,

885
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 8: And uh, the first ten days basically, you know, we hunt,

886
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 8: you know, five six hours in the morning and five

887
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 8: six hours in the evening usually, and every time we

888
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 8: went and called, we heard multiple bulls. They just would

889
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 8: not they just would not come.

890
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

891
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: So, as in Alaskan who hunts like like that, getting

892
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: that moose every year is I'm assuming, kind of important. So, like,

893
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: how's your winter meat supply looking? And what are you

894
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: going to do to make up for not getting a bull.

895
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 8: Well, I'm I think I'm sitting okay for now, we

896
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 8: do depend on it, but I like having a little

897
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 8: bit of a surplus just the way. You know, I

898
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 8: usually killed a bowl every year, and so we at

899
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 8: least the the size of my children. Now we aren't

900
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 8: consuming the whole thing every year. Oh yeah, we got

901
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 8: We've got a fair bit of moose. And then I've

902
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 8: got about three to four hundred pounds of black bear meat.

903
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 8: There you go, easier that, you know, I make into

904
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 8: various Yeah, you.

905
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: Guys really get after those bears.

906
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: Man.

907
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I I I don't know what I love. I

908
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 8: I love just kill bears, like I'm a.

909
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you'll make it through the winter

910
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: without starving. What what I really wanted to have you

911
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: on today to talk about is is I feel like

912
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: you've got like a very realistic take on the effect

913
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: the effectiveness of what many hunters, not all, but a

914
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: fair amount of hunters considered to be like undersized, underpowered

915
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: rifle cartridges for big game animals. Like I've kind of

916
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: always found the hate from like the Magnum, the Magnum

917
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: crowd for like the six or five creed more in

918
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: particular to be frankly kind of stupid. I've killed a

919
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: pile of deering out with six or five creed more

920
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: and I have nothing but good things to say about

921
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: it's it's effectiveness. What you know, a lot of white

922
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: tail and antelope hunters that they aren't strangers to use

923
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: in smaller rifle cartridges. But you know, you've taken it

924
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: a step further and proven that these smaller cartridges are

925
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: capable of like cleanly killing everything from from bears to moose. So, like,

926
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: talk us through how you got to that point, Like

927
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: how and why you became kind of like whatever you

928
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: want to call a small cartridge evangelist.

929
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, and whether whether it's by my own choice or

930
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 8: not to to that's I guess, I guess where I'm at.

931
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 7: I I grew up.

932
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 8: I grew up in southern Colorado for the most part,

933
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 8: and you know, it was a lot of twenty five

934
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 8: ought six stuff. But even after I moved to Alaska,

935
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 8: you know, I I started out with a thirty hot

936
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 8: six I'd bought and killed just about everything with it,

937
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 8: and then I quickly got really into sheep hunting and

938
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 8: a lot of twenty five ought six So I just

939
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 8: started shooting everything with that, and uh, you know, family

940
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 8: over over many years of hunting up there. You know,

941
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 8: my uncle always swore that the two forty three Winchester

942
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 8: is one of the best black bear guns, and it

943
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 8: just killed piles and piles of black bears with it,

944
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 8: and it was just kind of something that I just

945
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 8: took as a matter of fact, you know, kill a

946
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 8: moose with my twenty five ought six or you know

947
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 8: whatever I was using, and you know, in the six

948
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 8: or five creed More is kind of its own thing.

949
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 8: I was shooting competitively across the course student service rifle

950
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 8: when that was introduced, and I kind of thought that

951
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 8: sounds like it'd be a good cheap cartridge. And right,

952
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 8: a couple of years later, when the first rifle, the

953
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 8: first hunting rifle was public was released in it by Ruger.

954
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 8: I got one and shot a sheep with it and

955
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 8: with a match bullet, and that's cool shots and blacktail

956
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 8: deer and kind of moved on. And it was you know,

957
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 8: once this six' Five creedmore got, popular you, know then

958
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 8: there was this kind of vitriol and responsive hate to,

959
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 8: it WHICH i understand a lot of. It that a

960
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 8: lot of the annoyance because there are you, know, know

961
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 8: quite have been quite a few fairly ignorant opinions on you,

962
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 8: know saying that it can do things it can't do

963
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 8: right or shouldn't really be used. FOR i mean that's

964
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 8: kind of WHERE i got to Where i'm. At and,

965
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 8: then you, know over the last you, know we've all

966
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 8: seen over the last few, years just the advancement in

967
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 8: some of these smaller caliber you, know heavy for heavy

968
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 8: for caliber projectiles that are super efficient buck the wind really.

969
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 8: Well and So i've started kind of getting further and

970
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 8: further And i'm not afraid IF i If i'm do

971
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 8: my researching and convinced something will, work, Okay i'm not

972
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 8: afraid to try. It. Right so, far the results have

973
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 8: been like really really pleasing and and since, starting you,

974
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 8: know since working full time for outdoor, LIFE i, mean

975
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 8: MY i, SHOOT i shoot a ridiculous, amount and it's

976
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 8: just kind of just solidified a lot of points THAT

977
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 8: i think a lot of, times you, know we focus

978
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 8: on things like cartridge when when there are a lot

979
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 8: more important things that are going to contribute to our.

980
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: Success one THING i wanted to ask, you, Like i'm

981
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: kind of curious how you feel like when you're using

982
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: say a six five creed more even smaller cartridge and

983
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: you're shooting like larger game animals maybe not like white

984
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: tails or you, know antelope or something like. That like

985
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: how big of a role do you feel like bullet

986
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: selection is playing like to be effective and and and

987
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: like has like advancement and bullet technology like really made

988
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: it possible for these, newer smaller caliber cartridges to play

989
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: a role in big game. Hunting, YEAH i think.

990
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 8: It plays a. ROLE i think it's kind of raised

991
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 8: THE i think it's kind of raised the bar over you,

992
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 8: know the capability overall has. Increased they've always been effective

993
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 8: in some. WAYS i mean even in the early nineteen,

994
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 8: hundreds you, Know Frank Frank glazer was killing moose with

995
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 8: a two two swift and claimed it was the killed

996
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 8: everything you, know with just these super crappy forty eight green.

997
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 8: Bullets and SO i think that that bullet manufacturer has

998
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 8: bullet technology has really contributed to. That and also it's

999
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 8: it's made it easier to, hit you, know it's made

1000
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 8: it easier to shoot. Accurately, yeah.

1001
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: And, yeah we're past the days of like round Nose

1002
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: remington core locks that.

1003
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 8: Everybody, Yeah and one you, know one thing like the

1004
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 8: heavier for caliber bullets are so much. LONGER i DON'T

1005
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 8: i don't play into sectional density too, much but you

1006
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 8: know you get a much longer core of lead even

1007
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 8: in these expanding bullets that that you'll get better penetration than,

1008
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 8: say you, know an older or like a larger caliber

1009
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 8: bullet of the same weight that's all. Shorter and that's

1010
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 8: just one little. Factor and try to get too far

1011
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 8: in the weeds on.

1012
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah we want to keep bit. Simple do you

1013
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: guys have any any questions For?

1014
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 4: Tyler, YEAH i guess.

1015
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 5: You're shooting primarily match bullets or real frangible.

1016
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: Bullets, uh these Times i've been.

1017
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 8: Shoot i've been shooting more particularly like the The hornet

1018
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 8: to YELD m. Bullets BUT i, mean, honest, like IF

1019
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 8: i had to just, pick you, know one of my

1020
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 8: favorite bullets, overall it's that YELD, x which is it's

1021
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 8: it's not quite AS i and even saying frangible AS

1022
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 8: i don't know that THAT'S i wouldn't say that that's

1023
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 8: a really really accurate but it is a more rigidly,

1024
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 8: constructed constructed. Bullet heavier jacket and there's a locking ring

1025
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 8: in the jacket that they are going to tend to

1026
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 8: hold together a little, better but you still get really

1027
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 8: good rapid expansion and and. Performance SO i MEAN i

1028
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 8: would say that that that style of bullet is probably my. Favorite.

1029
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, still, YEAH i always Get i'm always. CONFUSED i

1030
00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: GUESS i don't.

1031
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 5: Know it strikes me as sort of strange that people

1032
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 5: talk so much about cartridges and then they don't talk

1033
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 5: about bullets and bullet. Construction, yeah because the only thing

1034
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 5: when you're killing an animal that the question is like

1035
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: what work that bullet does on that animal's? Tissue and

1036
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 5: that's like what is the bullet made out? Of how

1037
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 5: fast does it hit? It and does it hit it

1038
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 5: where you want to hit it? Right and like none

1039
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 5: of that is really you can do, It like depending

1040
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 5: on whatever the head stamp, is you can do a.

1041
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 5: Lot you can do a lot of different things and

1042
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 5: end up with a lot of different wounds on an.

1043
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 5: Animal but the bullet is, really, like to my, mind

1044
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 5: the most important part of the.

1045
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 8: Equation, yeah AND i THINK i think you hit the

1046
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 8: nail on the. HEAD i, mean that's we are kind

1047
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 8: of you, know as a whole a lot of hunters

1048
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 8: tend to make whether it's just the way we're brought

1049
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 8: up in. It you, know we think cartridge, power kinetic,

1050
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 8: energy where you know what your bullet construction and what's

1051
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 8: your impact velocity going to, be you, know because there

1052
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 8: are people that have done stuff that's you, know kind

1053
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 8: of stupid with the six to five creed. More but

1054
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 8: if you if you stay within a reasonable impact velocity,

1055
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 8: range you, know where you could still shoot really well

1056
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: and hit what you need. To they like it's it

1057
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 8: shouldn't surprise anyone that it. Works, right you poke a

1058
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 8: couple holes.

1059
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: Through their, lungs they're going to die pretty. Quick, jordan

1060
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: you got anything For?

1061
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: Tyler?

1062
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: YEAH i guess one of the things you hear, from you,

1063
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 6: know the folks who want to use the more Powerful

1064
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: magnum cartridges is you, KNOW i want to dump as

1065
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 6: much energy into the animal as, possible maybe induce hydrostatic.

1066
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 6: Shock so it just kind of falls down right.

1067
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: There what do you what?

1068
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 6: Is where do you stand on that sort of?

1069
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 8: ARGUMENT i would say that it's it's kind of a

1070
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 8: misconception or not like a poor understanding of a you,

1071
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 8: know what you should expect when you shoot an animal

1072
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 8: and you, know just the capabilities or or like terminal ballistics,

1073
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 8: itself because animals react totally. Differently And i've heard this

1074
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 8: and whether it's framed IS i want more margin for?

1075
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 8: Error but, well what does? That what does that really?

1076
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 8: Mean and you Know i've heard, people you, know because

1077
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 8: talking about shoot even shooting. Moose it's, well if they

1078
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 8: soak this, up then this other cartridge isn't going to.

1079
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 8: Work well that's just a poor understanding of what we

1080
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 8: should expect from the animal because there's a variety of

1081
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 8: reactions and the only thing you can really control is.

1082
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 8: Putting you, know using a bullet's going to put a you,

1083
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 8: know an acquate size hole through that thing's vitals and

1084
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 8: placing it, accurately and the animal is going to. Die

1085
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 8: it might it might drop in its you. Know the

1086
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 8: ANTELOPE i shot yesterday folded like a lawn. Chair and

1087
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 8: THEN i watched another one with a bullet that was

1088
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 8: did some you know more damage to, it shot perfectly

1089
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 8: and it didn't fall over for fifteen or twenty, seconds,

1090
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 8: yeah you, know and and both were both were perfect.

1091
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 8: Shots you, know it's just the. Result results will, vary

1092
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 8: and you, know a lot of times we we, have you,

1093
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 8: know a spectacular result or what we interpret is that

1094
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 8: and we don't you, know it's it's a small sample

1095
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 8: size that kind of falls within a wide range of.

1096
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: Possibilities all, right let's, uh let's speaking to. Results if

1097
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: any of you are still doubting like What tyler is

1098
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: saying about the capabilities of some of these these smaller bore,

1099
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: CARTRIDGES i want you to check out a video that

1100
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: he made last year when he killed you, know In,

1101
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: alaska you come bull moose is probably like sixteen pounds

1102
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: with it was with a twenty two Arc, Tyler is that?

1103
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1104
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah and yep eighty Eight and all right.

1105
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: Enough nerd Out. Randall before you chime in to like

1106
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: talk trash about how this plays, OUT i want you

1107
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 2: to first think about. THIS i killed An alaska bull

1108
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: moose last year with a three hundred win mag and

1109
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 2: it took three good hits to put that bull. Down

1110
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: so like keep that in mind as you're watching what

1111
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: this this. Video, phil you can go ahead and roll

1112
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: roll the tape, Here, Okay.

1113
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm ready whenever if you got to clear, shot oh.

1114
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 4: A lot of, brush you don't want to do it.

1115
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: He's.

1116
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: Done it sounds like my boy's hunting.

1117
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 5: Squirrels he's down or, no he's standing there.

1118
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: Now like this this is kind of What i'm talking,

1119
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: About like before you chime in talking, trash he's getting

1120
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: woozy and there he. Goes so no matter what you

1121
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: or me, Say, tyler, like there's gonna be some grumpy

1122
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: haters that would be like you had to shoot them three.

1123
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: Times it took forever for him to tip. Over but

1124
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: like with a big bull, moose that's not unusual with

1125
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: a with a, great big caliber because it's a huge

1126
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: animal and it just takes them a long time to bleed, out,

1127
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: Right so So i've got to believe that like part

1128
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: of the advantage in the situation you were just in

1129
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: is that you were able to like bear like stay

1130
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: on target and like get real quick accurate follow up

1131
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: shots because you're just like not dealing with. Recoil, right, yeah,

1132
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: No and you, know and that was that was a

1133
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: gas gun and the first.

1134
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 8: Shot and in the funny thing is like, say if

1135
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 8: if you shoot something more than once with a small,

1136
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 8: cartridge you know it was it wasn't enough. Gun but

1137
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 8: if you shoot them more than once with a big.

1138
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 8: Cartridge they're, tough, right you, Know like the first shot

1139
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 8: at the first shot was perfectly through both, lungs and

1140
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 8: that you, know it may it's only it's all. Speculation

1141
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 8: he may have gone another fifty, yards, right you, know

1142
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 8: but just based on as one of the REASONS i

1143
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 8: chose to do that is Because i've quite a bit

1144
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 8: of experience with how moose, die you, know the situations

1145
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 8: that we're shooting him in, there and, felt you, know

1146
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 8: obviously confident enough to try, it and, uh you, know

1147
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 8: and and actually getting the the second shot where he.

1148
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 8: Turned it hit him unfortunately in the hind, quarter but

1149
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 8: you know all you, know making limit lemonade out of.

1150
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 8: Lemons it was pretty imp like that bullet went through

1151
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 8: ten inches of meat and then she completely shattered the

1152
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 8: femur and was ended up, somewhere ended up somewhere in the.

1153
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 8: Guts but the first and third shot were both both

1154
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 8: through the, lungs and, yeah it was.

1155
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: Impressive. Man all, right we're we're we're gonna have to

1156
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: to move on to our next, Segment, tyler but thanks

1157
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: for joining. Us stay in. Touch it's like probably almost

1158
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: winter up there in Fair. Banks i'd imagine it's getting.

1159
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: Close SO i have a great fall and winner up

1160
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: up there and we'll talk to, you talk to you another.

1161
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 8: Time that sounds.

1162
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 6: Great all, right thanks a, Lot Thanks, Tyler, yeah thank.

1163
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: You, okay our next, section next. Segment, again if you didn't,

1164
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: realize it's white tail week here At Meat, Eater and

1165
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: since everyone loves just kicking back and talking, hunting shooting

1166
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: the breeze about, hunting which is SOMETHING i think we

1167
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: should do more of on this, show and so so

1168
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: does the HONEST i think we're gonna have a little

1169
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: chat about what our dream white tail hunt With beat would. Be, so,

1170
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: boys do you got, like do you already have like

1171
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: a bucket list white tail hunting mind or is this

1172
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: something that you had to like really stop and think.

1173
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 4: ABOUT i, MEAN i.

1174
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 6: Feel Like I'm i'm still trying to figure it out

1175
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 6: In East texas a little. Bit BUT i would love

1176
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 6: to go do a western white tail. HUNT i grew

1177
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 6: up In virginia and now In East. Texas We west

1178
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 6: is big. Man you got to pick a, Spot, well

1179
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 6: what would you recommend for The? Montana if you like white,

1180
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 6: tails there you. Go, Yeah i'd love to do. That

1181
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 6: just getting out of the tree. Stand you, know it's it's.

1182
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: It's what you.

1183
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: Got there's plenty of opportunity for that, HEREAH i, Mean

1184
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: wyoming's got some good whitetail. Hunting colorado like has some

1185
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: giant white tail box but they're most they're almost all

1186
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: in the eastern half of the, state and it's almost

1187
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: all private land right, Right like if you want to

1188
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: do a public land, hunt it'd be hard for me

1189
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: to pick somewhere other Than. Montana, yeah, YEAH i mean

1190
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: that that just sounds great getting to see that, landscape walk,

1191
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: around do a rifle.

1192
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 6: Hunt it'd be a lot of.

1193
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 4: FUN i had to think about this a little.

1194
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 5: BIT i don't necessarily know that their bucket list bucket list.

1195
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 5: HUNT a bucket list hunt for me would be like

1196
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 5: going to the most exclusive white tail property that has

1197
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 5: the biggest bucks and shooting. It but the one Hunt

1198
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 5: i've always wanted to do just been fascinated, by is

1199
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 5: uh doing like a North woods.

1200
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 4: Tracking in the, snow like like like In.

1201
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 5: Maine you know you see some of, Those just LIKE

1202
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 5: i just think that's that would be sort of the,

1203
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: coolest most mind expanding the.

1204
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: Atonics and, like oh, yeah it super. COOL i think

1205
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: like low deer densities like tracking a.

1206
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 5: Buck, yeah wear a wool, hat carry a lever.

1207
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 4: Gun, yep, yeah, yep very.

1208
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 3: Cool, YEAH i like that.

1209
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: Idea mine would be something like it's like totally out

1210
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: of my my comfort zone and like hunting. STYLE i would,

1211
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: like this is SOMETHING i would like mentally have a

1212
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: tough time, with But i'd still want to do. It

1213
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: which is uh one of Those saskatchewan hunts where you're

1214
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: sitting in a blind and it's like minus ten degrees

1215
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: but you're hunting during the, rut and like you're hunting

1216
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: for these like three hundred plus pound white, Tails like

1217
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: they'll have like one hundred and fifty inch rack and

1218
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: it looks small because the deer just so. GIANT i

1219
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 2: think that would be a super cool. Experience it would

1220
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: like be, miserable but it would be cool.

1221
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 4: Too.

1222
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, NO i think one of the cool things about

1223
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 5: white tails is there's just so many different.

1224
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 4: Ways, yeah you can do, it that's, yeah like pick a,

1225
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 4: Spot stans.

1226
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 5: Drives i've also been really intriguing WHENEVER i see an

1227
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 5: image of a white tail deer in a canoe.

1228
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: Gives me a little something in my.

1229
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: Brain, yeah definitely, definitely a water based hunt would be real. Cool, Okay,

1230
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: Phil let's let's jump back into the. Chat is everyone

1231
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: talking about white tails or guns or.

1232
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: What there's a lot of gun talk during during The

1233
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 3: Tyler real. Conversation not a lot of, questions though there's.

1234
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: There you, KNOW i love this chat because they just

1235
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: talk amongst themselves and share info and opinions and they're

1236
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 3: all very kind about. It you guys. Rock but we

1237
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: do have a lot a lot of questions. Still this

1238
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 3: is From harrison and he, says question for the, crew

1239
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: do do you use a packable game sled for deer and?

1240
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: Elk if, so which one do you? Recommend he's right

1241
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: rifle elk hunting this year and wants to use.

1242
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: Honey you should ask, That, Like i'm gonna be trying

1243
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: one out this. Year Hopefully i'll get the opportunity to

1244
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: try out a packable. Sled i've used sleds in the,

1245
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: past mostly for, elk but like the ice fishing sled

1246
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: type things like where you shoot it then go back

1247
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: to get the sled and then bring it out and

1248
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: use it to pack the animal out the. Quarters out

1249
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: of whether we had to do that with my kids

1250
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: elk last, Year So i'm, Like i'm definitely interested in

1251
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: the roll up sleds or packable.

1252
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: Sleds.

1253
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 5: Yeah i've For Sydney's. Bison we used like a pelican,

1254
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: sled like a big ice fishing. Sled i've used an

1255
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 5: Orange it's like a burlier kids. Sled, yeah and the

1256
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 5: roll up ones are like, no like an actual like like, yeah, yeah,

1257
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 5: yeah and that has BEEN i had one miserable experience with.

1258
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 4: It and one, experience man is.

1259
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: Like when you're running that kind of, sled like the

1260
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: snow condition's got to be just right for it to.

1261
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 4: Work.

1262
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 5: WELL i feel like if you if you count on

1263
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 5: packing it out in a, sled you're kind of setting

1264
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 5: yourself up For like it's a nice thing to have

1265
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 5: if the conditions are, right but like.

1266
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 4: There's there's something that's just.

1267
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 5: Really straightforward ABOUT i will put this on my back

1268
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 5: and carry it right right because because OFTENTIMES i feel

1269
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 5: like the sled can be way more work than just

1270
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 5: carrying it.

1271
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: Out, yeah and certain snow, conditions for, SURE i.

1272
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 4: Agree good luck to, You.

1273
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: Harrison imagine you're not using a sledge too, much.

1274
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: Is or.

1275
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: Snow i've never heard of.

1276
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 4: THIS i do LIKE i do like using for like

1277
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 4: a winter backpack.

1278
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 5: Hunt i'll pull a sled behind, Me AND i do

1279
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 5: like if you just if you're putting like thirty pounds

1280
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 5: in it that you're not going to have in your,

1281
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 5: backpack that's that's.

1282
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: Nice but, yeah AND i think there are situations where it.

1283
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: Doesn't even with some of these packable, sleds you could

1284
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: probably pull it off without. Snow in the right like,

1285
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: landscape you could still use a sled where the slide slide.

1286
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 4: It, yeah so hopefully that answers the.

1287
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 3: Question this one's very funny to, me AND i don't

1288
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 3: know if it means. Anything we can just move on

1289
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: if it. Doesn't rashad, says last WEEK i did an

1290
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: expensive fishing.

1291
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: Charter was there cheap fishing?

1292
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 3: Charters that's a good. Point we limited out and the

1293
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 3: captain told me to leave one of our. FISH i

1294
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 3: thought he was, joking but he took one out of my.

1295
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: Bag never discussed, beforehand thoughts that's not.

1296
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: Cool, YEAH i mean it's not that he should Have

1297
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: Captain price should have said something. Advanced but like if

1298
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: you're walking out of there with just like A i

1299
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: don't know what they're fishing for what the limit. Was you,

1300
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't got a problem with leaving the guy

1301
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: a fish necessarily if it was like done in a

1302
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: rude way where like give me one of.

1303
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 5: Those things OR i, MEAN i think like it comes

1304
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 5: down to if you really if it was a, question,

1305
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 5: yeah and he's, Like i'd appreciate a.

1306
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: Fish you're not stepping off my.

1307
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 4: YEAH i MEAN i had, people.

1308
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 5: Had people give me some of their fish if they

1309
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 5: didn't want to take you, home and BUT i didn't

1310
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 5: ask people for.

1311
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: It there's also situations where the captain's going to fish

1312
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: and give you his, fish right, Right, SO i mean

1313
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: again LIKE i don't know the details.

1314
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 4: HERE i don't like.

1315
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 3: It thanks for shot, Great, jordan Says. Phil if you

1316
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 3: don't bring up The randall's di y chili dogs at

1317
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: the football, game it will be a. TRAVESTY i told.

1318
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 3: So this is about a new Real randall posted On

1319
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 3: instagram where one of the new reel he brought a

1320
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 3: zip lock bag full of. CHILI i don't know you, Guys,

1321
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 3: okay if you have not seen, this just go To Randall's.

1322
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 3: Instagram it is it is obscene behavior From.

1323
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: Randall it's.

1324
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 5: MISSING i was really hoping BECAUSE i looked up all

1325
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 5: the rags on getting stuff in. THERE i was kind

1326
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 5: of THINKING i was gonna have to stash, it you,

1327
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 5: know like.

1328
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: A like keep it warm in your, rocket bring it

1329
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: into the.

1330
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 5: MOVIE i feel like a gatory bottle of liquor tucked

1331
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,879
Speaker 5: into your, pants like we used to do at The bengals.

1332
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 5: Games but, no if you have food that you want

1333
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 5: to bring, in it's totally, fine and it abides by

1334
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 5: the NFL's bag. Policy you just fit it in a

1335
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 5: gallon sized. Baggie and SO i was really hoping THAT

1336
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 5: i would have a confrontation and THEN i could pull

1337
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 5: out my phone Where i'd screenshoted the rules and SAID

1338
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 5: i know my.

1339
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 4: Rights but that didn't. Happen the.

1340
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 5: Infiltration was actually very anti, climatic But i'm glad you enjoyed.

1341
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 4: It, NONETHELESS i enjoyed. IT i tickled myself with.

1342
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 3: That colin's wondering what piece of first like year is

1343
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: the crew's favorite for cold Late midwestern elite season archery.

1344
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: Hunts you got a guy From texas who hunts when

1345
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: it's never cold and, rarely got two other guys who

1346
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 2: don't hunt cold late season archery. HUNTS i don't like

1347
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: sitting still AND i don't hunt from tree stands too,

1348
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: much BUT i would imagine like going with a bib

1349
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 2: system is the way.

1350
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 4: To go for that. SITUATION I i got to look

1351
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 4: up the name of this.

1352
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 5: Jacket, yeah as a bad uh insulated bibs as a bad,

1353
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 5: person and some great.

1354
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: Big warm jacket that you can still drop bow.

1355
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 4: With, yeah there's a Fleece jesus is.

1356
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: Embarrassing they just didn't pick the right uh like white

1357
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: tail experts for this.

1358
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 5: Show, Randall, NO i, KNOW i know there's a fleece

1359
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 5: jacket that's got like a like a windbreaker player in,

1360
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 5: it AND i can't find it r at the. Moment

1361
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 5: but that thing is incredibly and yeah it's, fleece so

1362
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 5: it's very, quiet like it's shockingly. Warm it's probably one

1363
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 5: of my favorite jackets that just.

1364
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: Wear go On First light's website and just go to

1365
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: like the white tail section and they'll have like cold weather.

1366
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: Gear you'll find some good stuff.

1367
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: There.

1368
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 4: Yep, Sorry i'm bad at this, Selling.

1369
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: Cody this IS i guess, general just traveling with meat

1370
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 3: tips and things to keep in mind for getting my

1371
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 3: access deer cape and meat home From. Hawaii humble. Brag

1372
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 3: BUT i guess if you guys have any sort of

1373
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 3: tips about flying With i've.

1374
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: Not flown with a, cape but like you're probably gonna

1375
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: want to like get it frozen and keep it. Frozen

1376
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: that's a good. Question would you salt a cape before traveling.

1377
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: With it TO? I, POSSIBLY i don't have a kind

1378
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 4: of experienced.

1379
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: Phil you're just picking really, bad like difficult questions for us.

1380
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: Today the meat's, easy freeze it and keep it. COLD

1381
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: i would think the same thing for the. Cape and

1382
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: there might be like call attacks at irmis and they'll

1383
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 2: tell you like if you want to assault it or.

1384
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 4: Whatever, YEAH i don't know.

1385
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 5: That WHEN i flew back From alaska with my, BEAR

1386
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 5: i don't know that we salted it and you couldn't

1387
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 5: freeze it because they had to check. It, yeah well

1388
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 5: you froze it like a thaw and then we threw

1389
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 5: it in the freezer again at the.

1390
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 3: Hotel but, Yeah, brodie it's either these questions or the

1391
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: ones about video games AND d AND. D i'm trying

1392
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: to spare you from the.

1393
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: Questions JUST i feel like we're like just not like

1394
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: these people are going to be disappointed with our.

1395
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 3: Answers, well it sounds like a you.

1396
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: Problem oh let's see, here you're picking.

1397
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 3: Them oh, yeah some. Brad i'm late late in, life

1398
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 3: first time hunter at thirty. Five i've listened and watched

1399
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: you guys for years and read a bunch of huge

1400
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: part of me wants to test myself and go alone

1401
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 3: versus going with anyone. Else go.

1402
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: Alone, yeah, like you will learn so much by hunting.

1403
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 2: Alone you might you might fail where you otherwise might

1404
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: succeed if you had someone who knows more than. You but,

1405
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: like go hunt. Alone that's All i'm gonna.

1406
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 5: Say it depends on what you're. DOING i, think like

1407
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 5: if you're doing if you're doing a wilderness type hunt

1408
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 5: you have to.

1409
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: Or.

1410
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 5: ANYTHING i guess like it depends on how you do

1411
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 5: being by yourself doing.

1412
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: Something it could be tough in an entire, day for,

1413
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: sure if you're.

1414
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 5: Going to struggle without someone and not be able to

1415
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 5: keep your head in the. Game, uh you, know find

1416
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 5: a buddy or find a. Mentor but if you're if

1417
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 5: you're you know yourself and you know that you can

1418
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 5: handle that sort of, thing go for.

1419
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: It, Yeah LIKE i, MEAN i don't know if he's

1420
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: saying go alone for the first. First it does say

1421
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:48,959
Speaker 2: late in my FIRST.

1422
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 3: I think the implication is that it would be his

1423
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: first time going.

1424
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: Out, oh THEN i retract my, answer go with someone

1425
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 2: else the first couple of, times but don't be afraid

1426
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: to go out hunt by.

1427
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 5: Yourself the chalice. Jacket there you, go the chalice. Jacket

1428
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 5: to sort of clean up one of our earlier. Misses

1429
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 5: the feel like we're back on.

1430
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: Track jrp, Fellow bob cratchit over. Here i'd give you

1431
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: the Secret Bob cratch a, handshake but you're you're not

1432
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 3: in the room with. Sick you want to do one?

1433
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: More one?

1434
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: More, OKAY i think we've. Talked we've talked about stuff

1435
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 3: like this. Before chester's not, here But i'll ask it

1436
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: anyways From jerr Maybe. Jerry here's an etiquette question for.

1437
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 3: Y'all do you get a you get a deer on

1438
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: private land you were given permission to? Hunt how much

1439
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: meat would be appropriate to give the landowner as a thank?

1440
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: YOU i try to clear that up before the hunt

1441
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 2: and just, say, look IF i get, one do you want?

1442
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 3: Some and go from.

1443
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 6: THERE i Made tomali's Venison Tomaly's, yeah bring us up like.

1444
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: Prepared that's a great. IDEA i think you, know it's

1445
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: going to depend on the, person but a lot of

1446
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: times they may not even want Any.

1447
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it's good to asking ahead of. Time, yeah, Cool,

1448
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 4: phil anything?

1449
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 2: ELSE i, mean we can do, more but let's move.

1450
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: On i'm about TO i GOT i got a frog

1451
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: in my.

1452
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 4: Throat sounds.

1453
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: Good i'm gonna try and get through.

1454
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 4: This do you want me to do?

1455
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 8: This?

1456
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah you can let her.

1457
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 5: Rip hey, Everyone in case you haven't heard, This December

1458
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 5: Meat eater is doing a Big christmas live tour through

1459
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 5: six cities in The. Southeast you can get all the

1460
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 5: info on locations and venues on our. Website but here's the.

1461
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 5: Catch tickets are going. Fast in, Fact, Faydeville, arkansas has

1462
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 5: already sold. Out so if you want to catch a

1463
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 5: fun evening With Steve, Yannis Clay, randall and some very special,

1464
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,320
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1465
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 5: he's gonna be there, too And Brent reeves. Everybody uh,

1466
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: yeah those tickets are going. Fast fadville is sold. OUT i,

1467
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 5: think like, overall a majority of, Tickets like if you

1468
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 5: look at the collective body of tickets a majority or go,

1469
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 5: on so don't wait too. Long it's nice to get

1470
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 5: Some christmas shopping out of the. Way so if you've

1471
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 5: got a friend a family member who would appreciate a

1472
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:13,240
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1473
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1474
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: Believe, yep and go to our events. Page they'll be

1475
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: easy to, find.

1476
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 4: Yep so get on.

1477
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: That and one last. Thing next week's show is going

1478
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: to be a pre recorded episode Because randal And phil

1479
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: are going out of town to play video games In.

1480
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:41,480
Speaker 2: Nashville but you guys aren't gonna believe. This Steven ranella

1481
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 2: is going to be On Radio, live WHICH i don't

1482
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: know how long it's Been phil since he's done.

1483
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 3: That a few months for.

1484
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah so you don't want to miss.

1485
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 5: It and.

1486
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 4: That's.

1487
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: It, man that's it for today's. Show thanks for listening

1488
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: and tune in next.

1489
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: Week thanks, Everybody, yeah thank, you