Speaker 1: Now you're maybe it's introducing the hosts Wrestling with Freddy
Speaker 1: Jeff Dieds tune yea. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: another episode of Wrestling with Freddie and now Wrestling with Friends,
Speaker 1: And this week is a very special episode where we
Speaker 1: take questions from you, the people, the People's republic of
Speaker 1: Wrestling with Friends. Mr Jeff, how are you, sir? I
Speaker 1: feeling good, buddy. I'm excited to talk to the people,
Speaker 1: to talk to the people that get to listen to
Speaker 1: us talk about wrestling. Well, I'm gonna summon my inner
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon, and I'm gonna tell you I'm not excited
Speaker 1: to speak to the people, squirrel. The people, what I
Speaker 1: think is the only thing that matters. Their opinions are crap.
Speaker 1: Their questions suck, and I don't have to answer any
Speaker 1: of them. You know. Just gotta hear him out. We
Speaker 1: gotta hear him out. Alright, fine, God damn it. We'll
Speaker 1: listen to a couple are awesome. Producer United States veteran
Speaker 1: Alexis Cardoza. We'd call him Big al We've never called
Speaker 1: you Big Alum. Alex Is gonna alex Is gonna read
Speaker 1: your questions, and uh, we're gonna get right into him
Speaker 1: as soon as he's ready, which is right freaking now.
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna start off with a couple of
Speaker 1: Instagram questions that came in, and the first one is
Speaker 1: coming in from Chell's Lee nine. She asked, if A
Speaker 1: E W or w W E offered you a creative
Speaker 1: job right now, would you take it? Mm hmm, that's
Speaker 1: a good question. I mean, I'll start, if you don't mind, Jeff,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Yeah, they're asking you, Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: it'd be cool to get your take to they might.
Speaker 1: I think stand up comics are good storytellers and that's
Speaker 1: what wrestling needs. Um. I think it would depend on
Speaker 1: the position and the amount of time. And here's why. One,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my own thing going, so legally
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be allowed too if if I signed a contract.
Speaker 1: But let's just take that off the table and and
Speaker 1: say everyone hated my idea and I and I can't
Speaker 1: make it. What what would I have to do? I'm
Speaker 1: back in acting. First of all, I'm making a movie
Speaker 1: in February. I'm making another one this summer, so that
Speaker 1: it would have to be a friendly schedule. So as
Speaker 1: far as the type of job, maybe if it was like, Freddie,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you three wrestlers that we don't really know,
Speaker 1: we don't have a story for it, and we're not
Speaker 1: we're not focused on them. Can you come up with
Speaker 1: something like if they challenged me right, like you try
Speaker 1: to get him over since you tell us on your
Speaker 1: podcast every week we can't we suck, show us how
Speaker 1: much you don't suck. If it was that kind of
Speaker 1: a thing and I could only work with those three
Speaker 1: and it was like we were doing zooms and maybe
Speaker 1: there were a couple of shows I would go to
Speaker 1: and things like that, then hell yeah, hell yeah I would.
Speaker 1: I would take that challenge in a second. I would
Speaker 1: love trying to take the person that no one believes
Speaker 1: in and making the people believe in them and then
Speaker 1: shoving it in in the company's face. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was the whole Jeff Hardy thing, That was the whole
Speaker 1: motivation behind that was no one, no one believed in him,
Speaker 1: and and Freebird was loved him, and he's like, Freddy,
Speaker 1: you gotta help me out here. You gotta get a
Speaker 1: story for for Jeff Hardy. And it was like and
Speaker 1: everybody was like, yeah, good luck. And so I wrote
Speaker 1: it up and I presented it to this guy Christ
Speaker 1: to Joseph, and he was like, dude, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, cool, let's pitch it.
Speaker 1: And we did, and and Vince kept going for it
Speaker 1: and going for it and going for it until he said,
Speaker 1: nobody touches Jeff and to larn Mageddon, and that's when
Speaker 1: we knew that Jeff was going to get the title match. Right. So,
Speaker 1: if it was in that regards with w W E,
Speaker 1: we're like, here's some n XT talent that we're bringing up,
Speaker 1: or here's like three wrestlers that aren't getting any TV time,
Speaker 1: or here's Mustafa Ali make us make him not lose, right,
Speaker 1: Like those to be challenges. I wouldn't just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to work with Bray Kevin Owens and Sammy's
Speaker 1: a and like those guys don't need any help, like
Speaker 1: they can do everything on their own. Um as far
Speaker 1: as a e W goes one, I don't think so,
Speaker 1: because Tony Khan isn't looking for help, right, But let's
Speaker 1: say he was and play the hypothetical that would be
Speaker 1: a more full time thing. That wouldn't be just give
Speaker 1: me three wrestlers. I would say, hey, let's you tell
Speaker 1: me who you want to wrestle at your pay per
Speaker 1: view and let me tell your fans why they're gonna fight.
Speaker 1: That would have to be the scenario, right like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you book it, because clearly you don't want to give
Speaker 1: that position up. But let me be the reason why.
Speaker 1: Let me be your head writer. Let me write the
Speaker 1: reasons why these guys hate each other. Let me be
Speaker 1: the reason why Soireya is going to take the title
Speaker 1: from from Jamie Hayd. Let me give you three stories
Speaker 1: and you pick which one right that That would be
Speaker 1: a much different situation because w w E is very streamlined.
Speaker 1: They have a writer's room. Those writers would hate me
Speaker 1: the same way they hated me the first time I
Speaker 1: worked there, and trust me they did. I had to
Speaker 1: earn their respect and earn just their like um and
Speaker 1: probably not all of them like me by the time
Speaker 1: I probably some of them, you know, we're like, I
Speaker 1: never liked him, ha ha. But a W is different
Speaker 1: because they don't have that. There are wrestlers there that
Speaker 1: are doing all their own things. Like it's just like yo,
Speaker 1: I'm writing my promo. I'm doing my own thing. So
Speaker 1: I would have to go in there and be like,
Speaker 1: here's what I think. I can't say the term that
Speaker 1: w W would use, but say put your fingerprints on it.
Speaker 1: They use a much more politically incorrect term in the
Speaker 1: wrestling business. Um, but I'd say, you know, change whatever
Speaker 1: you want to change, you know, find the words that
Speaker 1: that fit right for you. But here's the promo that
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about, and then help shape and guy the
Speaker 1: changes they make that I vehemently disagree with, right, because
Speaker 1: it's still at the end of the day, it has
Speaker 1: to be an environment that's conducive to success. I could
Speaker 1: write a monologue like nobody's business okay, but if you
Speaker 1: don't click with it, it's gonna suck, and that makes
Speaker 1: you suck, right, So I'm not going in there going
Speaker 1: look how great this is. It's me going, look, I
Speaker 1: think I have a great idea here, but you have
Speaker 1: to make it yours. So they would be two very
Speaker 1: different scenarios. W W would have to be a limited thing.
Speaker 1: Here's Wrestler's X y Z and a E. W would
Speaker 1: have to be let me run the show. And even
Speaker 1: if it was just like hey, give me rampage instead
Speaker 1: of Dynamite, and let me show you what I can do.
Speaker 1: And if I can bring those numbers up and bring
Speaker 1: and and make people care about the stories on that show,
Speaker 1: then let's start bleeding those into dynamite and seeing what
Speaker 1: we could do. So they'd be two very different scenarios.
Speaker 1: That said, I don't think Tony con would ever go
Speaker 1: for that. And I really am, like, it's not just
Speaker 1: like table talk. I really am trying to get my
Speaker 1: own federation thing going. I'm I'm pretty far down the
Speaker 1: line with a couple of different people, and I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of waiting for some some things to happen. Um.
Speaker 1: And I'm working again, so so it's tricky, um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would if certain things didn't already exist. What about you, Jeff,
Speaker 1: would you ever take a take a call? And and
Speaker 1: if so, would you take a job if offered to you?
Speaker 1: What what's the definition of a creative job at wrestling? Okay?
Speaker 1: You would be told we want Sammy Zane and the
Speaker 1: USOS to break up and we want Sammy Zane to
Speaker 1: wrestle Roman Reigns at WrestleMania. Will you come in and
Speaker 1: and writes and I wouldn't do the job. Wouldn't take
Speaker 1: the job. If they want to do smaller wrestlers, no,
Speaker 1: still wouldn't care. I don't know, I'm in no, this
Speaker 1: is how this is how Jeff Die operate. I am
Speaker 1: and I don't care about making Sammy Zanne or any
Speaker 1: other wrestler or start. Like, if they wanted me to
Speaker 1: be an announcer, I would love to do that. I
Speaker 1: would take that job in a second. If they want
Speaker 1: to make me a manager of a wrestler, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: all in on for that. But just sitting somewhere and
Speaker 1: making other people sound funny on my jokes or making
Speaker 1: someone else sound interesting on my monologues, like, I don't
Speaker 1: have any interest in doing that. I'm you know, the
Speaker 1: manager thing would be tricky because you're so freaking tall.
Speaker 1: You would make a lot of the talent seem less formidable. Right,
Speaker 1: But if you wrapped like a women's stable, that would
Speaker 1: be sick. But if you were on, if you were
Speaker 1: on a commentary, that would be that would be pretty dope. Also,
Speaker 1: if you got to be the color guy, you could
Speaker 1: literally be the main announcer. And if the if I
Speaker 1: became a manager for like a female wrestler like I would.
Speaker 1: I would just take H G H. Try to get
Speaker 1: jacked too, so like in case you know, something happens,
Speaker 1: I try to break it up and but hey, nobody,
Speaker 1: because I could be the I could be a bit
Speaker 1: guess dude. And the women's division. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that h just walking in on peptides, just slowly
Speaker 1: getting larger, like like an NBA referee. You know, they
Speaker 1: used to just be dorks and now they're all jazz.
Speaker 1: Like I would just every week on steroids because I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be looking like these bodybuilders. And the men's wrestling,
Speaker 1: but if I'm a female wrestler manager, they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's pretty big. Actually it's a big guy, dude. I
Speaker 1: could see you as a manager. I could big time
Speaker 1: see you as a commentator that way, I think you would. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would take that job, but I wouldn't take a
Speaker 1: writing job, or I wouldn't take any other stuff just
Speaker 1: because I think it's I just don't think i'd be
Speaker 1: good at it either. I don't really I like watching
Speaker 1: I like being a fan of wrestling, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think getting in there and trying to put my
Speaker 1: stink on it in the writer's room wouldn't be because
Speaker 1: you guys have listened to me enough on this podcast
Speaker 1: and Fred, you've listened to me enough in regular life
Speaker 1: that I like terrible stuff in wrestling. Like my taste
Speaker 1: for wrestling is like they do oh ship and I go.
Speaker 1: I love that, like I love like the brawl for all.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you can't trust me
Speaker 1: on the writer's room, I'm gonna come up with some
Speaker 1: terrible ideas. Next question, sir, This next question is for
Speaker 1: Jeff Die having dated a wrest how did that change
Speaker 1: your perspective of the business? And this question is coming
Speaker 1: from one Mikey Mike on Instagram. Um, it didn't really
Speaker 1: change my perspective on rest at all. I dated Becky
Speaker 1: Lynch if if people are curious and she's awesome, the
Speaker 1: only thing, Um, the only thing. It actually didn't change
Speaker 1: my perspect at all. I will say that this is
Speaker 1: I don't know if I hope I'm not sharing too
Speaker 1: much here, but like they would take it really personal,
Speaker 1: like when her and Charlotte were like feuding like they were,
Speaker 1: she I would listen to her be like I can't
Speaker 1: believe Charlotte's actually getting mad at me and like she
Speaker 1: would like that. I was like, you guys, do know
Speaker 1: this is a storyline, right, Like you guys don't have
Speaker 1: to actually be upset with each other for this to work.
Speaker 1: But I think it's like comedy or or show business
Speaker 1: or maybe even um, if you work at a warehouse
Speaker 1: or you work at Target or you work at Best Buy,
Speaker 1: you get competitive, like right, you wanna you want the promotion,
Speaker 1: or you want the race, or you want some position,
Speaker 1: and so that's just part of it for for them.
Speaker 1: So it's like like Charlotte had a difficult time that
Speaker 1: Becky was starting to become the face of the female
Speaker 1: wrestling thing, and so I did. Um. I guess it
Speaker 1: wasn't surprising and didn't change my perspective, but it was
Speaker 1: interesting to see how much they genuinely, like you know,
Speaker 1: when when you're struggling on the roster, like it affects
Speaker 1: their personal life, like they're really their their attitude inspect
Speaker 1: and as they rise they go yeah, like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a little more real than I thought
Speaker 1: it was for sure. Now you don't have to answer
Speaker 1: this question, but I'm just gonna throw something out there.
Speaker 1: I did notice when you and and Miss Lynch were
Speaker 1: dating that her Twitter game was much stronger than when
Speaker 1: you broke up. You didn't have anything to do with
Speaker 1: some of those sweet tweets, did you, Becky is she's
Speaker 1: very very funny, and she's very very uh you know,
Speaker 1: like very witty with that stuff. She was very good
Speaker 1: about keeping her Twitter persona like her thing. That's all, Becky.
Speaker 1: Next question, sir, This one's coming in from Sierra Taylor
Speaker 1: Hodge on Instagram. If you both became an in ring
Speaker 1: tag team, what would your name be? Oh? I already
Speaker 1: know mine what Jeff Jack Pott die, And every single
Speaker 1: one of my moves would have like an some sort
Speaker 1: of money thing to it, you know, like, oh, he
Speaker 1: did the bank deposit, He did the bank deposit. You know,
Speaker 1: like just so some sort of like money related stuff,
Speaker 1: because I think Jack Potts it's about it's about being lucky,
Speaker 1: it's about winning, it's about uh, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: a perfect kind of like name Jeff Jack Pott. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Josh Wolf and I used to do this years
Speaker 1: ago on on our old podcast, and he was his
Speaker 1: character's name was the producer, and I was Alexander Slammleton,
Speaker 1: and all my moves were kind of like yours, Like
Speaker 1: I had the Bohamian bank note, and like I think
Speaker 1: he's on the the five dollar bill or the tent,
Speaker 1: whichever billy's on it. It was the five dollar thrill,
Speaker 1: like I had all the same the same kind of vibe.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be able to bring that persona into
Speaker 1: the ring. So I would have to be your luchat
Speaker 1: or tag partner. And my name is from birth, has
Speaker 1: always been in my lucha, persona is the dude, and
Speaker 1: so we would have to be the dude and the jackpot,
Speaker 1: like the butcher and the blade, and I would be
Speaker 1: Spanish like in Mark Hamill's Joker Exit. That would have
Speaker 1: to be like, so it wouldn't be regular Spanish, should
Speaker 1: be like Costa was stead, and it would have to
Speaker 1: be very much like so that no one would ever
Speaker 1: know it was me, And then the reveal would be,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's the guy from fucking Scooby Doo,
Speaker 1: Holy sh it, He's yeah. And eventually and you would
Speaker 1: be the one that betrays me, right you take off
Speaker 1: the mask. I'm like, oh no. They'd be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Freddie Brents Jr. Oh my god, that's the
Speaker 1: guy from Scooby Doo. He's got a lot of gray hair.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I would never betray you, and I
Speaker 1: would definitely never de mask a luchador. That would be
Speaker 1: some of our our nemesis, and I would never do
Speaker 1: that to you. But that would get you over as
Speaker 1: a healing dude. Disrespectful take that. Never. Never. I love you.
Speaker 1: You're a good man. You're a good man. Jeff. Why
Speaker 1: would you guys call each other then your entire team
Speaker 1: Joker in the jack the joker in the jackpot. Oh
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, baby, a bad joker accent and
Speaker 1: Jack Pod Jeff Die Jeff, Jackpod Die. Let's start it up.
Speaker 1: Let's call a w say, listen, we gotta thing, we
Speaker 1: gotta start. Let's call the dubs man. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: really gotta start. Gotta get to the gym yesterday if
Speaker 1: we're going to do this. Next question, so this was
Speaker 1: coming via Twitter from Curious Dabbler, was Vincent Kenny McMahon
Speaker 1: stepping down the biggest single event in pro wrestling in
Speaker 1: the last five years. In the last five years, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: in the last fifty years. I mean hell, I guess
Speaker 1: he hasn't been doing it fifty years, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Vince you didn't know. But if you weren't a fan
Speaker 1: of pro wrestling, the only thing you associated a pro
Speaker 1: wrestling was Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon. Like you would
Speaker 1: know those names, right, Like people in Hollywood who should
Speaker 1: all over wrestling and don't know anything about it. When
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, I worked for Vince McMahon for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, they be like, why did you
Speaker 1: quit acting? For everything? I would and work for Vincementman,
Speaker 1: They'd be like, oh, pro wrestling, and they would know
Speaker 1: right away. They would know not a single other thing
Speaker 1: about pro wrestling, and crap all over and go it's fake.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yes, so is every movie you produced.
Speaker 1: Jag Off. Um. I hate when people say it's so stupid.
Speaker 1: I'm like, every television show, including reality TV, is freaking fake.
Speaker 1: Everything is not real. You don't think they've held a
Speaker 1: plane on the Amazing Race a few times to make
Speaker 1: sure the team they wanted to win didn't get eliminated,
Speaker 1: Like that ship happens, bro, Like it's all fake. So yeah,
Speaker 1: him stepping down and especially the way he stepped down.
Speaker 1: Had it been gracefully and just been like, thank you
Speaker 1: very much, it's time for me to retire and and
Speaker 1: hand this to my to my family, it's still probably
Speaker 1: would have been the biggest story. But anytime there's like
Speaker 1: scandalous stuff that that you know, gossip sites and and
Speaker 1: National Enquiry type stuff we want to talk about and
Speaker 1: it's finally real instead of like made up stuff, then
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, ten times as big. So
Speaker 1: for sure the big since since he started the WWF,
Speaker 1: that's the single biggest event in wrestling. And that's too
Speaker 1: bad because it should be like the first WrestleMania or
Speaker 1: something like that. But unfortunately it's you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't make smart life choices. And also it's to
Speaker 1: everyone I've ever talked to who knows wrestling. I've never
Speaker 1: worked for anybody in wrestling, but like everyone wrestler I know,
Speaker 1: every person I know that's written for them, produced whatever.
Speaker 1: They all said that Vince was the final say like
Speaker 1: he was just no matter what if you just he
Speaker 1: didn't like it. So to have one guy be the
Speaker 1: thing that everything has to go through. He had his
Speaker 1: hands in everything, so for just to just to get
Speaker 1: rid of the guy who has been the final say
Speaker 1: for that long. It has to be the biggest thing
Speaker 1: to to let Triple H finally get to you know,
Speaker 1: call the shots and delegate responsibilities, say Okay, you can
Speaker 1: do this and you can do this. So we'll bring
Speaker 1: Shawn Michaels into this and Fit Finley will decide that
Speaker 1: like that's a that's a huge, huge, huge um thing
Speaker 1: for wrestling. Shout out Fit Finley. All right, this next
Speaker 1: one's coming in from Shah Raleigh two and one. Which, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which rivalry would you really like to see in terms
Speaker 1: of storytelling and match quality? Must be a w w
Speaker 1: E feud, all right. I know first of all, which
Speaker 1: one I never want to see again, and that's Randy
Speaker 1: Orton versus John Cena because they did it for two
Speaker 1: years straight. Uh and it was boring after two months?
Speaker 1: Which w w E rivalry. Okay, you have to be
Speaker 1: kind of a new school and hardcore fan to go
Speaker 1: into this one. For me. But if you watched n
Speaker 1: x T when it was good, and you saw Sammy
Speaker 1: Zane's path to the World Championship, and you saw Kevin
Speaker 1: Owen's entrance into n x T and the beginning of
Speaker 1: these best friends rivalry. It started perfectly and beautifully. He
Speaker 1: hugs his best friend and then he gives him a
Speaker 1: power bomb on the apron of the ring and like
Speaker 1: breaks Sammy's back and it's like, yeah, congratulations, Champ. And
Speaker 1: they've had they've been best friends, and they've been mortal
Speaker 1: enemies ever since, going back and forth, back and forth,
Speaker 1: to the point where Kevin the last time they spoke,
Speaker 1: said I don't even want to know you anymore. I
Speaker 1: don't want to wrestle you, I don't want to see you.
Speaker 1: I think eventually they're gonna become friends again and then
Speaker 1: fall apart again. So I'm not saying it's the greatest
Speaker 1: of all time, because that's reserved for people like you know,
Speaker 1: Undertaker and Shawn Michael's and and people of of that caliber.
Speaker 1: And these two men haven't had enough time in the
Speaker 1: company to establish that. But I will tell you this,
Speaker 1: I'm damn well gonna watch it over the next ten
Speaker 1: years and see where this rivalry goes between the friendship
Speaker 1: and rivalry, and watch where it goes um because I
Speaker 1: love both those guys, because they can both wrestle at
Speaker 1: a ten and they can both talk on a ten,
Speaker 1: and they can both tell a story at a ten.
Speaker 1: So it may not be the greatest yet, but I
Speaker 1: think it has the potential to and it's the one
Speaker 1: that I'm most excited to watch. What say you, Jeff, Well,
Speaker 1: if I could just do like fantasy, you know, like
Speaker 1: there's anything in the world I would, I'd love to
Speaker 1: see Undertaker and Cain again. That was super fun. Sean
Speaker 1: Michael's and Brett Hart was huge. My The foundation of
Speaker 1: my wrestling love was Macho Man and Hulk Cogan. I
Speaker 1: remember just being like, no, I'd love these two. Why
Speaker 1: is this happening? Temptation in your eyes? I saw it
Speaker 1: in your eyes woman, and then obviously stone Cold versus Vance.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll ever get as good as
Speaker 1: that rivalry like this, just every week I couldn't wait
Speaker 1: for wrestling to start so I could watch how Vince
Speaker 1: was gonna get his life ruined by Stone Cold. It
Speaker 1: was just so so so fun. That's oddly probably the
Speaker 1: best one ever, right because it was like wish fulfillment.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to punch their boss in the face. It
Speaker 1: was actually got to and also I learned that he
Speaker 1: kind of it seemed like a story they did a
Speaker 1: long time ago with a different guy. What was the
Speaker 1: guy who actually became an actual bounty hunter in real life?
Speaker 1: Dr d Yeah, Doc, is it Dr David Schultze David Schultz.
Speaker 1: So I have a theory that this guy John Moffatt
Speaker 1: or whatever that guy's name was ruined his life. But
Speaker 1: that guy David Schultz basically like that was stone cold.
Speaker 1: That that whole character is with even even having the guns,
Speaker 1: like he had guns on U. They went to his house,
Speaker 1: they cast at him a fake wife and a fake
Speaker 1: kid that he'd be rude to like that. It was
Speaker 1: perfect anyways. Um, those would be the ones I'd love
Speaker 1: to see again, just because they were like magic, I'm
Speaker 1: not really good. I'm as the older I get to
Speaker 1: get a little less patient with the rivalries, like you know,
Speaker 1: Brock versus Roman. I don't want to see it again.
Speaker 1: It was it just too much for me. Um, But
Speaker 1: any of those old ones, I would love to see
Speaker 1: anything like that or those again, if I could choose.
Speaker 1: David Schultz slapping the ship out of that reporter is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite moments in the history of wrestling,
Speaker 1: because like, my whole thing is like if I ever
Speaker 1: was interviewed by that guy, I would just shoot on
Speaker 1: him the whole interview and call him out on his bullshit,
Speaker 1: like why would be my question, like you're you were
Speaker 1: going after cigarette companies? Why would you go after professional wrestling?
Speaker 1: Like everyone's in on the secret, even back then, even
Speaker 1: the people that didn't want to say it was, everyone knew.
Speaker 1: So why go out there and just try to expose
Speaker 1: him like that? Like who are you helping outside of yourself? Right,
Speaker 1: Like it's just you trying to get cloud by destroying
Speaker 1: something that people love. I was so glad when he
Speaker 1: got the ship slapped out of him, and I was
Speaker 1: even happier when he hit him the second time. I
Speaker 1: hated that they paid him off. I hated that he
Speaker 1: got a settlement. I hope his ears hurt for the
Speaker 1: rest of his life. Like, screw that guy, man, I
Speaker 1: think he's kind of looking for trouble something. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: screw that guy. I hate that guy and antagonize him
Speaker 1: and then cry that like something happened, like the guy's
Speaker 1: asking for trouble. That other New York journalist that tried
Speaker 1: to like get him destroyed during the steroid trials, Mushnik
Speaker 1: whatever his name is Screw that guy too, man. I
Speaker 1: remember Cornette cut a promo on him that was just
Speaker 1: freaking gold, like just an absolute brick of gold. And
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I love to be in a
Speaker 1: room with that guy, and just slapped the ship out
Speaker 1: of the way. Dr d did, dude. I hate both
Speaker 1: those guys. Screw those journalists. And the story goes that
Speaker 1: Vince told David Schultz to do that. He he knew
Speaker 1: David Schultz was gonna do that, goes go show him
Speaker 1: how real rest is, and so like new David Schutz
Speaker 1: was gonna keep that cafe, you know, like like it
Speaker 1: was in that time, like you have fired for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he gets sent to Japan for a few years, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we might get sued for this, such e Vince move.
Speaker 1: But um, I love Shultz. I love David Schultz. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: shout out David Schultz. Next question, sir, all right, so
Speaker 1: our last question for this episode, and we're gonna end
Speaker 1: a good one. This one's coming from Danielle Zamorano. Oh nice.
Speaker 1: Why was the brawl for all the best thing to
Speaker 1: happen in pro wrestling? You know, I like the idea
Speaker 1: of it was an epic failure. It was terrible, but
Speaker 1: it did stem from a good idea. It did stem
Speaker 1: from the idea that, like, these guys have been doing
Speaker 1: choreographed wrestling and lifting weights and eating steroid burgers for
Speaker 1: the last thirty years, they talking a big game back there,
Speaker 1: They're talking a big game in the green room. Let's
Speaker 1: see who's really actually tough if we could put these
Speaker 1: boxing glibs on and do it. So the idea was,
Speaker 1: let's let's have Bradshaw put his money where his mouth is.
Speaker 1: Let's have these guys earn their way to climb the
Speaker 1: corporate thing. It was a failure. It was a failure,
Speaker 1: and it was dangerous, and it was reckless and it
Speaker 1: was stupid. But I think the idea is good. I
Speaker 1: think the idea is it stemmed from a good idea,
Speaker 1: which also is a nice callback to why I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a very good creative at rest. Okay, Danielle, I'm
Speaker 1: so upset with you for sending this question in giving
Speaker 1: Jeff this this soapbox. Once again, it is the single
Speaker 1: worst moment in professional wrestling. Um, the idea is completely
Speaker 1: assinine that on the same show where you have choreographed
Speaker 1: fights you're going to have a real one just to
Speaker 1: show that the bigger stars aren't as tough as the
Speaker 1: lesser stars, which is stupid. I'm gonna make I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make who who was even in I'm gonna make the
Speaker 1: Godfather look tougher than stone Cold Steve Austin, Like, why
Speaker 1: would you do that? If Stone Cold Steve Auston is
Speaker 1: supposed to be the toughest son of a bitch in
Speaker 1: the business, but he didn't have the guts to join
Speaker 1: the brawl for all because he's not like a real man.
Speaker 1: This idea is horrible. I hated every minute of it.
Speaker 1: I love the Godfather. I love Too Cold Scorpio. I
Speaker 1: know he he wasn't it. Remember that old vignette the
Speaker 1: two Cold had where he comes up in the limo
Speaker 1: and the kids are late to school and he's like,
Speaker 1: you need to get in school, and they're like, are
Speaker 1: we gonna go on the limo and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna step and then they just do the dance
Speaker 1: all the way to school. Six I'm gonna send it
Speaker 1: to you. It's great. I love Too Cold. He used
Speaker 1: to do, you know, like Hangman Page does that that
Speaker 1: Larry at that slingshot Buckshot Larry, he calls it where
Speaker 1: he does a forward hand spring over the top rope
Speaker 1: and hit you with the clothesline. Too Cold would grab
Speaker 1: the top rope and do instead of forward handspring, he
Speaker 1: would do a full flip where his feet don't even
Speaker 1: touch the ground and frog splash you, dude. It was
Speaker 1: so he first, his whole move set was ahead of
Speaker 1: his time. But two cold, way under w c W
Speaker 1: two cold best too cold, but he was way ahead
Speaker 1: of his time, way underrated, and uh had to be
Speaker 1: in that stupid brawl for all the world. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I don't even think the origin story that
Speaker 1: was told on Vice is true at all. I don't
Speaker 1: think it had anything to do with J. B L.
Speaker 1: I know J B L pretty damn well. At this point.
Speaker 1: I did a show with him on A and E
Speaker 1: called W W E Rivals and he's in every episode,
Speaker 1: and that dude schooled me up on the history of
Speaker 1: business colling Vince Russo a liar. You're calling Vince Russo
Speaker 1: a liar. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think that
Speaker 1: that's true at all, and I don't think it would
Speaker 1: get approved at all. And J B L is not
Speaker 1: that guy like JB L talks about dudes beating the
Speaker 1: ship out of him all the time. Like every conversation
Speaker 1: I have with him is like, yeah, you know, freaking
Speaker 1: Shamrock choked me out in three seconds, like like he
Speaker 1: doesn't care, like he doesn't have an ego like this,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if the origin of it is
Speaker 1: is as as as honest as as people looking at
Speaker 1: stuff in hindsight. It's like the Shock documentary that's out
Speaker 1: right now and Shack saying, yeah, I knew this, and
Speaker 1: I knew that, That's why I did this, That's why
Speaker 1: I did that. I love the Lakers, I love Shack.
Speaker 1: A lot of that is bullshit, man, Like that's hindsight
Speaker 1: and you going, yeah, because A, B and C happened.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my own spin on it to show
Speaker 1: you why I created that situation, like a lot that
Speaker 1: I hate a lot a lot they rewrite history because
Speaker 1: they're the only ones left to tell the stories. Um
Speaker 1: so so yeah, man, No, I hate your question. Danielle.
Speaker 1: You are your your your band from the show forever.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out how you listen to the show,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do whatever Dana Dana White does to
Speaker 1: the people that stream his his pay per views illegally.
Speaker 1: You should also know that when I if you go
Speaker 1: back to the episode when this was talked about, Freddie
Speaker 1: told me he hated me, So you know you're you're
Speaker 1: in good company. Danielle. Yeah, and I and I still
Speaker 1: love him. You can be on the ship with with
Speaker 1: Jeff on his Mexican cruise and you guys can tell
Speaker 1: brawl for all stories. It will be thank you for
Speaker 1: your written in questions. We appreciate you, guys, We love you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna two part this because we also have our
Speaker 1: voicemail messages that we're gonna get to in next week's
Speaker 1: episode of Wrestling with Freddie Wrestling with Friends. You guys
Speaker 1: are awesome. You guys give us a lot of laughs today.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys. Danielle. I don't hate you at all.
Speaker 1: You're super cool and I know that you were just
Speaker 1: doing that to be a jerk, and I like jerks,
Speaker 1: So way to go. Mr Jeff. You've got anything to
Speaker 1: say to the people before we leave, If you're in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Ohio or the Greater Ohio area, I will be at
Speaker 1: Hilaritous Common Club. Celebrating the New Year's with you guys. Um,
Speaker 1: so come on down to that, come, come, come hang
Speaker 1: with Jeffy if you're if you're around for New Year's
Speaker 1: that's that's this country, bro, That's this country. That's Dull
Speaker 1: Sigler country, that's Alexa Bliss country. We'll get them at
Speaker 1: the show. Get them at the show. Let's try to
Speaker 1: get them there Lebron's Old stomping Grounds. We wish you
Speaker 1: guys the happiest New Year ever. I hope you guys
Speaker 1: party with people you love. I hope you get drunk
Speaker 1: with people you love. If you smoke pot, I hope
Speaker 1: you smoke pot with people you love. If you smoke cigarettes,
Speaker 1: even though I wish you wouldn't, I hope you smoke
Speaker 1: a cigarette with someone you love. Just don't blow right
Speaker 1: in my face. It's disrespectful. The same in the nineteen
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