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Everybody hope Bob, You guys are having a 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: great start to your week. What a wild night in 38 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: the NBA as the Draft lotterly the Draft Lottery sends 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: Cooper Flag to the Dallas Mavericks, or at least presumably 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 2: at this point we'll talk about some of the possibilities there. 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: San Antonio gets the second pick, putting them in the 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: pole position in a Giannis Antennacumpo trade. Then we get 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: just an absolutely crazy Nick Celtics game that comes down 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: to the wire as the Knicks pull it out. But 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: then suddenly at the end we get the what appears 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: to be a devastating injury to Jason Tatum, which kind 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: of put a bummer on everything. And then in light 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Slate Anthony Edwards and Julius Raynd will put on another 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: show against the Golden State Warriors. We're going to talk 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: briefly about the Timberwolves Warriors game. We're going to be 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: spending most of the night on Celtics, Knicks, the Tatum news, 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: and the draft lottery. 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So the only hope for the Warriors 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: to win this series was for their defense to stifle 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall long enough for Steph Curry 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: to make a return. And Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: just left no chance of that being the case. Both 75 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: of those guys were fantastic in these two games in 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: Golden State, and in both games, Golden State threw a 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: great punch and got scoring punch from some guys that 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: have been inconsistent throughout the season. They get the best 79 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: play out of Jonathan Minga that we've seen in this 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: postseason by far, in his first kind of like long 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: leash opportunity. The games are close in the second half 82 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: both times, but in both games a little bit later 83 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter in Game three, more of a 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: mid third quarter run in Game four, but Anthony Edwards 85 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: and Julius Randall are able to figure things out and 86 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: get on a run and put the game away. Now, 87 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: obviously it's more complicated than that. Not having Steph Curry 88 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: on the floor has all sorts of trickle down effects. 89 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: Jackson and I were talking about this earlier. There's like 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: a belief that you have to have, and you could 91 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: literally see when Ant's going on his scoring run. It 92 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: just kind of sapped the belief out of that Warriors defense. 93 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: And that's where it'd be nice if you had a 94 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: guy on your team that could go on a scoring 95 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: run to help you put the opponent in that sort 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: of position. But the fact remains that against what I 97 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: believe is probably the second or third best defense in 98 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: the NBA, it's Oklahoma City, it's Minnesota, it's you know, 99 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 2: it's Boston, it's Golden State. Those are the four best 100 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: defenses that I've watched to this point in the season, 101 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: and Golden State obviously was the number one defense in 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: the league over the final stretch of games there from 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: the Jimmy Butler trade. This is a very very good 104 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: defense that Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall were able to 105 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: score on. And this is the Anthony Edwards upside that 106 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: I've been so excited about for so long. One of 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: the things I've talked about with him is there's a 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: certain unguardability with him that is different than the unguardability 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: you see with Jokic or with Luca, where it's primarily 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: built on size. Ant has size. He's sixty six and 111 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: he's built like a truck, but he has this profound 112 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: stop start ability which allows him to get from point 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: A to point B, but to stop on a dime 114 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: at point B and to get straight up and down 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: into a shot. And you add to that the touch 116 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: that he has built out over the last couple of years. 117 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: I was speaking about this in the playoff run last year, 118 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: stretching into the Team USA Basketball stretch over the summer. 119 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in Anthony Edwards's jump shot. The 120 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: form is crisp. He gets great rotation on the ball, 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: he has great arc on the shot. Yes, he can 122 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: still have his stretches where he cools off a little bit, 123 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: but overall, I believe in him as a jump shooter. 124 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: And when you piece all of that together, what it 125 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: allows for is the ability for him to get to 126 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: any spot on the floor with his athleticism, but to 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: have the shots necessary to pay off any of those 128 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: specific spots on the floor, whether it's all the way 129 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: to the rim for a dunk, whether it's a finish 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: with either hand. He's finally starting to finish better around 131 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: the basket. Over the course of the last couple of games. 132 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: You can tell he's starting to figure out his angles. 133 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: In this particular matchup, the short range shot, making the 134 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: step throughs, and the floaters. He had a couple absurd 135 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: little like lefty righty floaters at various kind of finishing 136 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: angles in this game, settled into a nice easy mid 137 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: range jumper. I'd like to see him that one a 138 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: little bit more, and then he can take a three 139 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: against a ball screen, against a drop coverage, he could 140 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: take a three on a step back going to his left. 141 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: He could take a three on a step back going 142 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: to his right. He just has all of the shot 143 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: making to tie that athleticism piece to the ability to 144 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: actually finish plays and make shots. And you know, one 145 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: of the big difference is, like, obviously Golden State's defense 146 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: is trying to make him make higher difficulty reads. But 147 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: you know, in the way that these games kind of dictate, 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: you have to as the star, take some difficult shots 149 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: over double teams. Like I thought it was flat out 150 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: bizarre in this game that we saw Jimmy Butler in 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: a very similar type of situation where his team needed 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: him to score only take nine shots, Like because again, 153 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: in this sort of situation, when the defense is as 154 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: good as it is and everyone's as locked in and 155 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: as focused as they are, you need a guy who 156 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: can take a step back three over a contested hand 157 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: and make it. That's what Jayson Tatum was doing tonight, 158 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: is what Jalen Brunson was doing tonight. So Donovan Mitchell 159 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: has done a lot in the Indiana Pacers series, so 160 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: what Steph Curry did to the Rockets. You need somebody 161 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: that can overcome the circumstances of high level defense with 162 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: high level shot making. And Anthony Edwards is now pieced 163 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: together this overwhelming athletic frame that he's got with elite 164 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: shot making from every spot on the floor, and it's 165 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: turned him into one of the great players in our game. 166 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: I mean, this is again one of the best defenses 167 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: in the league, and he's lightening him up. This last 168 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: couple of games in his playoff career, obviously not including tonight, 169 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: he's averaging twenty eight point seven rebounds and five assists 170 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: on fifty nine percent true shooting thirty five career playoff 171 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 2: games before tonight, He's about to make his second consecutive 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: conference finals. He's just twenty three years old, still just 173 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: barely scratching the surface of his potential. It has been 174 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: so much fun watching him over the course of these 175 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: last few seasons, and there's a part of me that's sad. 176 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: Obviously and Steph are my two favorite players and they're 177 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: going home, and it's unfortunate in a lot of ways. 178 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: I was really disappointed in the way the Lakers played. 179 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: I did believe in this Golden State team. I actually 180 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: think they would have won the series if Steph Curry 181 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: was healthy. But at the same time, as a basketball fan, 182 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: if I had to see the Reins get handed over. 183 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: I liked the group that's taken over. And watching Anthony Edwards, 184 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: watching Jalen Brunson, watching what Tatum did today before his injury. 185 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: You know what we've got coming on the periphery in 186 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: terms of what Victor woman Yama can do. Cooper Flagg 187 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: coming into the league, who already has shown that he 188 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: has the potential to be one of the greats in 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: our league. Like, I feel like the league is just 190 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: in a really good spot and I hate it had 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: to be like this, But at the same time, I'm 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: excited to watch these guys. I'm excited to see Anthony 193 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: Edwards potentially versus Oklahoma City. We'll talk about that in 194 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: a minute. The Julius Randall piece thirty one points tonight, 195 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: eleven for twenty one from the field, coming into tonight 196 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: twenty two points, six rebounds, assists on fifty nine percent 197 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: true shooting in the playoffs. I feel like he has 198 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: vindicated himself and shone a light on the reality that 199 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: he was just banged up and out of rhythm in 200 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: a lot of his previous playoff runs. He is a big, 201 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: strong forward that can make shots and can pass, which 202 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: is a very useful player in the NBA postseason. Obviously, 203 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: he didn't get tested mentally as a defender in this 204 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: series like he would have with Steph Curry. That was 205 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: something that I was very interested to see in terms 206 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: of a challenge for him to have to deal with. 207 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: But Julius Randall, I've been so impressed by him in 208 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: this entire postseason run. Looking forward for Minnesota, like we'll 209 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 2: talk about Golden State in a minute, I don't think 210 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: they should bring Steph Curry back, so I think old. 211 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: I think Minnesota is going to close this out in 212 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: Game five. Obviously we know what Minnesota looks like versus Denver. 213 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: We got bringside seats for that last year and that 214 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: was an unbelievable series. But as I mentioned after yesterday's game, 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: I think Denver blew their chance to beat Oklahoma City 216 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter last night, up by eight on 217 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: that Peyton Watson hook shot. That was their chance. If 218 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: there was an opportunity for them to win that series, 219 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: I feel like they let it slip. It's not over, 220 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: but I would make Oklahoma City a substantial favorite at 221 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: this point, just like Vegas has been doing for the 222 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: entire damn series. But I think I think Oklahoma City 223 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: is gonna win that series, and it makes for a 224 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: very interesting matchup. As you guys have seen with Denver, 225 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: they've been able to play Oklahoma City into these slow down, 226 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: half court environments where they're just playing a lot of 227 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: high ISO basketball. And you know, Golden State was able 228 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: to do similar things to Minnesota in the sense that 229 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: obviously there's lots of different coverages. We saw, we saw 230 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: zone in this series. We saw Jackson pointed out there's 231 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: a to me and a text message. They ran a 232 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: box in one possession in that second half at one point, 233 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: just having Jonathan minga face guard Anthony Edwards off the 234 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: ball while the other two guys sat in a to 235 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: two zone. But like, there's a lot of weird stuff, 236 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: but ultimately it's Anthony Edwards hitting shots over the top 237 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: at the top of the key. Anthony Edwards is hitting 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: shots out of closeouts off the weak side. That was 239 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: a big thing they unlocked in the last two games, 240 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: is getting at little bit more off the ball into 241 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: some catch and shoot situations and then him trying to 242 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: sloal them through bodies and get to the basket. Both 243 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: of these defenses, Oklahoma City and Minnesota will be able 244 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: to stall each other out and get them trapped in 245 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: the half court. But I tell you guys, I cannot 246 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: wait to see Anthony Edwards versus potentially Shay Gills as 247 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: Alexander in a playoff series going toe to toe at 248 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: the top of the key. I think that could be 249 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: a really fun one. Again, it's not over. Denver certainly 250 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: can beat Oklahoma City, but I think I think we're 251 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 2: careening towards a Shae versus Aunt face off in the 252 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: conference finals, which I think could be a ton of 253 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: fun on the Golden State front. As I mentioned at 254 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: the beginning of the series, I didn't see any purpose 255 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: to bringing Steph back before Game six because there's just 256 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: too much of a risk for him re injuring himself. 257 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: And even at this point, it's like, what are you 258 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: gonna do? Bring it back in Game five and win 259 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,239 Speaker 2: three games in a row against that physical Minnesota Timberwolves 260 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: team and then roll up into a series against Oklahoma City. 261 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Like I said before this series that I thought Golden 262 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: State would get smacked by Oklahoma City, So like I 263 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: don't necessarily think that there's much in the way of 264 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: a reward to make the risk worth it trying to 265 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: like force Steph back out there into that sort of setting, 266 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: and so I think that they most likely need to 267 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: just leave him and let him rest and prepare for 268 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: next season. We've seen enough from this Warriors team in 269 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: this playoff run, I think to justify the fact that 270 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: they have, you know, a real chance next year that 271 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: they should go for. I think we saw some of 272 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: the realities of Jimmy Butler as an offensive player in 273 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: this postseason run, and that like some nights he has it, 274 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: some nights he doesn't. He kind of has like a 275 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: weird lack of aggression at times, and so I think 276 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: they need to be targeting a pretty high level offensive 277 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: player this offseason. I just all roads to me just 278 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: kind of keep running back to Cam Johnson as like 279 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: the obvious fit, and we'll see what they end up doing. 280 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: But all in all, like just like I said, with 281 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: the Lakers, it's really hard to put together a team 282 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: on the fly at the trade deadline, and both teams 283 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: did the best they could, and both teams had some 284 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: really impressive stretches, but ultimately neither team was able to 285 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: get to the level they need to get to and 286 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: they just need to make the necessary pivots this offseason 287 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: around their new star corp. You got Jimmy Butler, now 288 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: you need to just anchor them with high level offense. 289 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: Lakers got Luca. They need to reconfigure their offense around Luca. 290 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: That's the processes we had into the. 291 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: Summer, Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane 292 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: world of sports. Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse 293 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: range of programming that goes beyond the game. 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I want to 301 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: separate what happened in the game tonight from Tatum's injury. 302 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: Tatum's injury is just a huge bummer and it opens 303 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: up a whole can of worms in terms of the 304 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: Celtics for both their immediate future and their long term future, 305 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: and most importantly, it's just sad. Like when I saw 306 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: Tatum getting rolled out in the wheelchair in the tunnel 307 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: and he had his head in his hands, like you 308 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: could just tell how heartbroken he is. And I you know, 309 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: Tatum can be a frustrating player sometimes, and he showed 310 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: some of his like floor, so to speak, in this 311 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: postseason in Game one, in Game two. But Tatum, to me, 312 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: was so impressive the vast majority of this season, and 313 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: I thought, for the first time, really played at a 314 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: top tier superstar level for extended stretches, and you could 315 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: just tell how much this means to him, and it 316 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: just was a huge bummer to see him go down. 317 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: So I want to hold that for later, because the 318 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: Knicks beat the Celtics fair and square tonight to take 319 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: a three to one lead. That game was over before 320 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: the Tatum injury, and Nick fans deserved to celebrate their 321 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: team tonight, and I want to take the next few 322 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: minutes to do that before we kind of circle back 323 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: to the Celtics and tat him stuff later in the show. Tonight. 324 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: I thought the Knicks did an excellent job of executing 325 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: their defensive game plan on the Celtics. One of the 326 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: things I've consistently harped on in this series is the 327 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: willingness of Tom Thibodeau to run different kinds of drop 328 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: coverage with Kat or Hedge and recover sequences with Brunson. 329 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: That gave Boston easy reads to get the Knicks into rotation, 330 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: and they were able to get really clean catch and 331 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: shoot looks out of that. I talked about how they 332 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: needed to switch, understanding that they could bait the Celtics 333 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: into playing isoball instead of moving the ball around, and 334 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: tonight was the best they've done executing that game plan 335 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: in the series, in that second half, in particular, by 336 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: the way, it takes a great deal of patience to 337 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: run that game plan. You have to see the bigger 338 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: picture of the game, because we did see Jalen Brown 339 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: drive to the basket and get layups on Cat. We 340 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: did see Jalen Brown hit a step back three over 341 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: the top of Cat. We saw Tay go on multiple 342 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: red hot ISO shooting runs. The difference in the game 343 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: for the first two and a half quarters was a 344 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: stretch in the late first quarter where Tatum hit like 345 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 2: four or five shots in a row that were all 346 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: contested off the dribble jump shots in the second half. 347 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: In that mid third quarter, he had another big shooting 348 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: run as he kind of went bar for bar with 349 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson there for a little while. You have to 350 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: be patient in understand the bigger picture of the game 351 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: with your game plan to know that sometimes it's going 352 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: to beat you, no different than when you do run 353 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: drop coverage against the player that you're not as worried 354 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: about burning you in those coverages. Sometimes you have to 355 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 2: sit there and watch them make a pull up three 356 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: against the drop or a floater against the drop and 357 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: realize that even though you're losing that battle, maybe you're 358 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: not losing the war as long as the other elements 359 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: of your game plan come to fruition. The Celtics, even 360 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: though Tatum had those offensive flurries like you had, the 361 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: Celtics had very little in the way of offensive rhythm 362 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: as a team in the second half of that game. 363 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: In the second half, Jason Tatum had twenty two points, 364 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: but no other Celtic was in rhythm. No other Celtic 365 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: had double figures in that second half. Four different knicks 366 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: were in rhythm in that second half. Four different Knicks 367 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: had over ten points in that second half. As a 368 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: team in the second half, the Celtics got just zero 369 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: point eighty to nine points per possession in the half court. 370 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Boston in the fourth quarter generated just one unguarded catch 371 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: and shoot jump shot. As a team, they locked just 372 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: fifteen assists, which was their second lowest total of the 373 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: entire season. So the game plan worked. It baited the 374 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: Celtics into isoball, it cooked their rhythm. No one else 375 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: had anything going but Jason Tatum, while the Knicks had 376 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: everything go in and they were able to pull away. 377 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: I thought the second key factor the game was the 378 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: weirdness of that early fourth quarter stretch. So we have 379 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: Brunson going blow for blow with Jason Tatum in the 380 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: late third quarter like just a really fun shit. This 381 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: was like a really fun game. MSG was on fire, 382 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: Tatum was unbelievable, just a ridiculous game. And then we 383 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: go into this early fourth quarter stretch and I thought 384 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: Tom Tibodau was gonna pull a JJ Reddick for a minute. 385 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, he's gonna play his starters all 386 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: twenty four minutes in the second half because he stuck 387 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: with his core five for the entire third quarter. But no, 388 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: he goes to duce McBride in the early fourth quarter 389 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: and gives Brunson a quick rest. Simultaneously, Jalen Brown is 390 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: in foul trouble and he's usually the guy that leads 391 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: that early fourth quarter stretch. But no, he's out of 392 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 2: the game, so Jason Tatum has to stay in. So 393 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: as a result, the Celtics more or less kept playing 394 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: the same way the Knicks. That gave McHale Bridges a 395 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: chance to start running action and he got into the 396 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: mid range and he caught a rhythm, and we talked, Man, 397 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: what was the big game that the Knicks one earlier 398 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: this year where McHale hit all those mid range shots 399 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: at the end? I can't remember which one it was. 400 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: It was a National TV game and he hit like 401 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: six or seven mid range jump shots in the fourth 402 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: quarter to pull away. I literally can't remember which game 403 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: it was. But after that game, if you guys remember, 404 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: I came on and I talked about the concept of 405 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: mid range rhythm and how mid range rhythm is different 406 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: than three point rhythm in the sense that you know, 407 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: you can get hot as a three point shooter and 408 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: you might go, you know, you might hit four out 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: of seven or something like that. You'll see obviously Steph 410 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: Curry and Klay Thompson go crazy hot and hit six 411 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: seven threes in a row. But like in the mid 412 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: range is where you really can catch a rhythm to 413 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: where every single shot goes in. Because it's a shorter shot, 414 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: there's more margin for error, and so you catch the 415 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: same type of shooting rhythm that you get behind the 416 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 2: three point line, but on a higher percentage shot. And 417 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: McHale caught some rhythm in that early fourth quarter, and 418 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: so then when Bridges came back, we had ourselves a 419 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: really close game because again Jason Tatum was going blow 420 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: for blow with these guys. Hit two massive threes in 421 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: the middle of that fourth quarter stretch. All of a sudden, 422 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: It's ninety nine to ninety eight on a Jason Tatum 423 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: three was seven minutes left, and from that point forward, 424 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: the Knicks scored on ten of their next twelve possessions 425 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: against that Celtics defense that was giving them all sorts 426 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: of problems earlier in the game. McHale, Bridges, Ojananobi, and 427 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson all had multiple made baskets in that run. 428 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: They had great rhythm the ball was when the ball 429 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: was getting skipped across the court. O Jannanoby was in 430 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: great rhythm to shoot a three against the closeout. McHale 431 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: Bridges driving across the lane against the closeout, hitting another 432 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: one of those tough right shoulder fades. They were starting 433 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: the possession with Brunson, but when the initial action broke down, 434 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: they were able to move the ball elsewhere and get 435 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: other guys involved, and everyone was in a rhythm. The 436 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: Knicks played some special basketball in that second half, and 437 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: for the third time in this series, they came back 438 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 2: from a lead of at least fourteen in the second 439 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: half to win. Now again, the series isn't over. Boston 440 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: certainly has a chance, but for the first time, it 441 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: feels like the Knicks are in real striking distance of 442 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: the finals. Now again, the Celtics are a five point 443 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: favorite on Wednesday without Jason Tatum. I would not be 444 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: surprised at all if the Celtics won that game. This 445 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: could drag out a little bit. The Celtics have a 446 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: lot of talent. They can disperse usage from Tatum to 447 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: other players. I'm not mistaken They've already won a playoff 448 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: game in this playoff run without Jason Tatum, so this 449 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: could certainly go the distance. But I would be really 450 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: surprised if Boston beat the Knicks three straight times without 451 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, which means that the Knicks will very likely 452 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: be in the conference finals, likely against Indiana, although that 453 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: series is not over either. I was talking with Colin 454 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: Coward tonight. That video is already up, We've recorded it 455 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: right after Celtics Knicks. You guys can find that on 456 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: his YouTube channel. But Colin was talking about how things 457 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: are kind of like opening up for the Knicks now, 458 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: and yes, in the sense that I mentioned this morning, 459 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: if they won today, it still would be roughly a 460 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: coin flip chance for them to beat the Celtics if 461 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: they're healthy with Jason Tatum. But there's also another layer 462 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: to this, which is the Indiana Pacers are really fucking 463 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: good and they are in a hell of a zone 464 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 2: on both ends of the floor right now. They just 465 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: chewed up and spit out a Cleveland Cavaliers team last 466 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: night that again won sixty four games this season, and yeah, 467 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: they're a little banged up, but they are faster than 468 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: the Knicks. They don't have slow footed bigs and they 469 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: cut them to pieces. And so the Knicks or two 470 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: and one in the season series against Indiana. I have 471 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: no idea who I'm gonna pick at this point, but 472 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: I immediately started to think about Karl Anthony Towns defending in 473 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: space against the Indiana Pacers, and I started to just 474 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: get like a little worried about how that could go. 475 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: And so even though this appears to be breaking in 476 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: a way for the Knicks to make it to the 477 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: Conference finals, I think that that's a serious challenge waiting 478 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: for them in the next round potentially with Indiana. And 479 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: I mean Knicks fans know that from personal experience, although 480 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: they were way more banged up with what happened in 481 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: the Pacers series last year, and so it's gonna be 482 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: really interesting. I'm really curious to see what ends up happening. 483 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: But that could be a definitely a different series than 484 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: we were expecting. We were all expecting cav Celtics in 485 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: the Conference finals, and it looks like we might get 486 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: Indiana versus New York, but that could be an interesting 487 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: series in and of itself. Boston. First of all, I 488 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: feel terrible for Tatum. As we mentioned earlier. I know, 489 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: we don't know what the injury is, but we all 490 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: know what it looked like, and if it is what 491 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: it looked like, it's fundamentally alters the future of the 492 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: Celtics franchise. Tatum's only twenty seven years old. I have 493 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: no doubt that he'll make a full recovery and be 494 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: an All NBA player again in this league. But there 495 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: are age realities with this roster. Horford is thirty eight 496 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: years old, Drew Holliday is thirty four years old. Chrisopsporzingis 497 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 2: is about to turn thirty, but he's a very old, 498 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: very injured thirty. There's very little chance that that group 499 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: is championship capable or even really still all on the 500 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: roster by the time Tatum recovers. Now, obviously, Jalen Brown 501 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: and Jason Tatum are still a very strong foundation, but 502 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: I think the Celtics need to seriously consider a fire 503 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: sale with their role players this summer. I would begin 504 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: to look at next year like the Warriors year in 505 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, after Klay Thompson tore his ACL and after 506 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant Torre's achilles, I would be looking to flip 507 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: any useful role player that you can for as much 508 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: opportunity to bring assets in so that you can then 509 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: pivot around Tatum and Brown two years from now. The 510 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: only guy that I would negotiate especially staunchly with is 511 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: Derek White because he's young enough and still just such 512 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: a proven useful role player in this league. But everyone else, 513 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: if you let them age out, you just lose any 514 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: value that they have, and so I would look to 515 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: move Drew Holliday, I would look to move chrisops Porzingis. 516 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: I would look to move any of those guys with 517 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: the opportunity to bring in stuff that allows you to 518 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 2: rebuild around Tatum and Brown in the future. Then you 519 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 2: can use next year as an opportunity to continue to 520 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: explore different players that fit the mold of what the 521 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 2: Celtics role players need to be, Guys that can defend, shoot, pass, rebound, drive, closeouts, 522 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: all of that stuff. You have an opportunity to pivot 523 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: here and again, like this is the thing when you 524 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: really zoom out again. I think the Celtics could have 525 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: won this series still, but the Knicks up three to 526 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: one is very different than the Knicks up two to zero. 527 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: They just got to get you once in three tries, 528 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: I would have made the Knicks a hair over a 529 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: coin flip favored to beat you at that point. So 530 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: chances are you were heading into this summer without another 531 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: championship anyway, potentially cutting costs and then running a team 532 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: out there next year that probably isn't as good in 533 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: a league where Oklahoma City gets better, where San Antonio 534 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: could potentially have gyanis, where the Rockets could potentially have KD, 535 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: where the thunder or a year better like it just 536 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: this could This was already kind of looking like a 537 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: shorter window. And so with that being the case, obviously 538 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: the Tatum injury is terrible news, but it allows you 539 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: a year's worth of time where the wins and losses 540 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: don't matter, and so you can use that year to 541 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 2: do everything you need to do to make it so 542 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: that you're positioned well to contend with Tatum again on 543 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: the other side of that window. And again, guys, we 544 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: literally have seen this work. The Warriors won a title 545 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two with an older version of Steph 546 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: and an older version of Draymond. They weren't as talented 547 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: as the previous iterations of the team, but Steph was 548 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: better than ever because he was smarter than ever, and 549 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: they had a roster that was just perfectly curated around 550 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: their skill set. They caught like a flash in a 551 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: pan and they were able to go win a title. 552 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: So again, this is not a death sentence for the 553 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum era in Boston, but it is a death 554 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: sentence for this specific iteration of the roster, and with 555 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: that being the case, they need to make the associated 556 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: pivot this summer. It's just crazy to me. I was 557 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: literally when I was making my notes here. I just 558 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: can't believe that we went from the Cells looking like 559 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: championship favorite in my opinion, to we're staring down the 560 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: barrel of a full rebuild. This summer just a wild 561 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: night in the NBA, and we haven't even got to 562 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: the craziest thing that happened in the NBA night, which 563 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: is the Draft lottery. So upfront, if you're looking for 564 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: me to say that the league rigged the lottery, I'm 565 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: just never going to be that guy. I'm sure you 566 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: can find plenty of that type of content out there, 567 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: especially in the next few days, but you're not going 568 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: to get it from me. The league literally uses one 569 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: of the Big four accounting firms to audit the draft lottery, 570 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: specifically so that they can guarantee its legitimacy to the 571 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: NBA Board of Governors. Like people pay real dollars and 572 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: cents to buy these franchises, like the Celtics just sold, 573 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz just sold, the Phoenix Suns just sold. 574 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: They need to be able to sell competitive legitimacy, and 575 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: that's why they audit the draft lottery. You're not going 576 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: to hear the conspiracy theories from me. Go elsewhere. If 577 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: you want that sort of thing, that's it. If you 578 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: do believe that the league rigs the draft lottery, today 579 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: is the day to make that case. Because Dallas gets 580 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg after losing Luka Doncic, and san Antonio gets 581 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: the second pick, which puts them on the doorstep of 582 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: a trade for Giannison Tennant Coombo. First, let's talk Dallas. 583 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: It's a little weird because trading Luca for Anthony Davis 584 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: pushed their timeline into a win now position. It doesn't 585 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: make sense to have an old injured Kyrie and an 586 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: old injured Ad on the roster with an eighteen year 587 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: old forward that has superstar potential. Now, the basketball fan 588 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: in me would love to see Cooper Flag and Anthony 589 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: Davis play together. I just imagine Cooper Flag at the three, 590 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis at the four, Derek Lively at the five, 591 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: just an absurdly big frontline. You can imagine a scenario 592 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: where they then trade PJ. Washington and Daniel Gafford for 593 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: more ball handling. They anchor that awesome three, four, five, 594 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: and they're just really fun basketball team. But I think 595 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: Nico Harrison probably needs to pick a lane here, and 596 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: that would mean either trading Cooper Flag to a team 597 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: that is in a different timeline, So for instance, calling 598 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: the Celtics up and offering Cooper Flag in a package 599 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: for Jylen Brown, or calling up the Atlanta Hawks and 600 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: going for Trey Young, or calling up the Sixers and 601 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: going for Tyreese Maxi, or calling up the Suns and 602 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: going for Devin Booker, something along those lines. Or they 603 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: need to consider trading Anthony Davis and just pivot towards 604 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: a full rebuild with Cooper Flag. As for which option 605 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: I prefer, it entirely depends on what the trade packages 606 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: look like, depends on who you can get. Like if 607 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: you can get Devin Booker for almost nothing like that, 608 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: to me, would be a deal that would be worth 609 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: at least considering, because Devin Booker alongside Anthony Davis with 610 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: a with Derek Lively and all that depth and all 611 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: that athleticism they have would be an interesting team. But 612 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: it all just depends on which direction you want to 613 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: go and which options are available. But like, if you 614 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: want to build around Cooper Flag, you bet you're better 615 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: off putting him in a situation where you can fail 616 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: and he can make mistakes and learn how to play 617 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: basketball at his own pace and surround him with the 618 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: pieces he needs for long term contention, in which case 619 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is one of your best options that you 620 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: have available. And then there's a whole bunch of really 621 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: cool options for Anthony Davis. I saw someone tweet out 622 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: what if Anthony Davis ended up in Golden State. I 623 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: was like, that would be absolutely insane. There's all sorts 624 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: of crazy stuff that can happen. I have a feeling 625 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: we are going to see an absolutely wild summer of 626 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: player movement in the NBA. And then the last piece 627 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: of this that we'll get to before we get out 628 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: of here, tonight, the second pick going to San Antonio. 629 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: You can see everything taking shape right. The Dame injury 630 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: made it so that a Yiannis trade is a near certainty. 631 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: The thunder might literally be too good. Is like if 632 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: they got Yiannis, I think that would just be boring 633 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: for the league and for everyone. Kevin Durant is a 634 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: more natural basketball fit in Houston where they can't shoot 635 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: than he is in San Antonio, like where he's skinny 636 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: next to Victor Webbin Yama. I think like Gianni's actually 637 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: makes more sense in San Antonio. And so now San 638 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: Antonio can add the prospect of drafting Dylan Harper to 639 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: their trove of assets that they can offer Milwaukee. Dylan 640 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: Harper is an outstanding big guard prospect that started to 641 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: dig into his footage a little bit today. I usually 642 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: don't dig into the draft until after the finals, so 643 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: we won't go any further into Dylan Harper. But the 644 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: people I talk to that I trust say, Dylan's awesome, 645 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: and then he's kind of like a shoe in number 646 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: two overall pick this year. And you can call up 647 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: Milwaukee now and you can offer a package that doesn't 648 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: have to include a Stefan Castle because it's got that 649 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: number two pick involved, you can build a package around, 650 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: you know, Dylan, like Dylan Harper as the number two pick, 651 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Devin Vessel for salary filler, you know, either Harrison Barnes 652 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 2: or Keldon Johnson, something along those lines, additional picks, filler, 653 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: whatever you need to do. Milwaukee could then completely refill 654 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 2: their draft pick trop and get two really intriguing young 655 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: guards to reinvigorate their fans into launch a rebuild, while 656 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: the Spurs on the other end of that could feel 657 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: a line up next season with Daron Fox, Stefan Castle, 658 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: Jannison Tennankumpo, and Victor Wembenyama, which would be insane in 659 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: the Western Conference. I think there's a lot of natural 660 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: fit between Giannis and Victor. Giannis over the years has 661 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: not been as good of a pick and roll defender 662 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: as he has been a low man defender. So you 663 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: can imagine a universe where Victor's guarding pick and roll, 664 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: Jannis is guarding as the lowman. I like having Giannis 665 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: as a big, physically imposing forward next to the thinner 666 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: Victor webbin Yama. Victor's really developing into a great catch 667 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: and shoot player and a player that likes to operate 668 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: beyond the three point line. It's a clear space, it 669 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: inverts the spacing. There's all sorts of advantages to the 670 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: two of them partnering together. I think they would be 671 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: a super interesting team out in the Western Conference. We'll 672 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: continue to dive into these concepts over the course of 673 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: the coming weeks as we get more information. But man, 674 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: we are headed for one hell of a summer in 675 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: the NBA on the heels of what was a crazy 676 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: trade deadline. All right, guys, that's all we have for 677 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: right now. Again, we're gonna head over to playback to 678 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: take some callers and some questions from you guys. We'll 679 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: hang out for another forty five minutes there tonight. 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