WEBVTT - #478 Packers Unscripted: Forgettable fizzle 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:20.639 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.759 I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.080 colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.680 studios at lambeau Field, back from the Bay Area West. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.159 A late night flight, minimal sleep. I'm not sure how 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:37.599 you're doing. I'm a little tired. And that was not 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.760 what the Packers had in mind going to the West coast. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.319 Another West coast dud Green Bay falls to the San 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.440 Francisco forty seven to eight. Quite frankly, just dominated in 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.360 all three phases of San Francisco forty unitiers have stated 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.760 their supremacy right now on the top of the NFC. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.520 The Packers have learned how far they have to go, 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.480 and these next few weeks will be about trying to 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.039 close that gap. Yeah, one month to fix it. And 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.000 you know, we could sit here, Matt Irvin could put 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.280 our final thoughts video up on the back panel. We 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.920 could discuss everything in terms of what the Packers need 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.560 to execute to win this game. They didn't do any 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.640 of it. We talked about a fast start, they go out, 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.520 they have the fumble on the first possession. San Francisco 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.080 punches in a two yard Tevan Coleman touchdown on their 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:30.200 first offensive play. They aren't unable to, you know, consists 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.400 consistently get good and favorable down in distance on first 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.559 and second down, leads to the starting offense going over 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.840 fourteen on third downs or over on third downs. There 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.959 are so many different things that you could talk about 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.000 in this game. The inability to get Aaron Jones going, 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.040 the inability to get the ball to Jones in space, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.840 whether that be through the run or the past. Uh, 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.760 you know, the missed opportunities, a few strange penalties in 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.400 the first quarter. The Packers were not able to overcome 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.320 boiled down. However you want. The San Francisco forty Niners 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.080 were the better team. They played discipline, they played well. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.080 I tipped my cap to George Kittle was playing through 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.080 a pretty bad ankle injury. It sounded like still comes 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.040 up with six catches for a d twenty nine yards, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.200 including the sixty one yard backbreaker. Didn't slow him down, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.000 and he certainly showed he can still run on that angle. Boy, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.720 he's he's he's dynamic. But that that explosive play came 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.800 on what was the Packers only offensive score and basically 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.760 shut the door on any hopes of the Packers pulling 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.600 some kind of second half miracle. And now they sit 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.639 at eight and three. Yeah, it was about as rough 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.079 a start as you could imagine. The Packers get a 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.920 first down early, Davante Adams gets called for a personal 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.240 foul over by the forty Niners sideline backs him up 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.000 fifteen yards, so it's as though the first down never happened. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.160 And then Aaron Rodgers gets sacked on third down and 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.160 the pile of bodies the ball sports out. The fourty 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.440 Niners end up with an easy touchdown, and really the 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.239 bulk of the rest of the first half Packers offense 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.040 was just struggling. I believe it was five three and ounce. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.240 The Packers defense, I thought, was hanging in there until 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.600 the last couple of minutes of the first half. They 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.600 hit the forty two yard touchdown pass to Deebo Samuel. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.360 Then when the Packers had their fifth three and out, 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.440 which gave the ball back to the forty Niners with 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.320 still enough time, they hit another play and got in 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.399 position for a field goal to make it twenty three 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.679 to nothing at halftime. It went from thirteen nothing to 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.280 twenty three to nothing, just in those last couple of 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.919 minutes of the first half. And then, as you said, 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.160 even when the Packers scored early in the second half, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.160 you get a touchdown Davante Adams on the quick little 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.760 shovel pass, his first touchdown reception of the season, You 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.760 get the two point conversion, you get it to twenty 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.960 three to eight. But then the forty Niners go seventy 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.560 five yards and two plays the sixty one yard George 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.720 Kittle touchdown, and they basically just said We're not going 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.160 to mess around with these guys any longer and and 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.360 put the Packers away. Um, the whole question, now, West 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.320 is is how did the Packers come back from this? 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.640 Now the schedule is favorable. You've got the two bottom 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.560 feeders in the NFC East the next two weeks, Giants 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.240 on the road, Washington at home. But I'll say this, 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.120 and we'll talk about this a little bit as the 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.600 week goes along. I don't care about the Giants two 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.920 and nine record coming back from a night game on 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.800 the West Coast. The way the Packers were just beaten 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.359 by a legitimate contender. This is going to be a 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.760 challenging week to prepare to get ready mentally, physically, everything 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.520 that needs to go into this game. This is going 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.760 to be a challenge. The Giants too and nine record 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.599 and a rookie quarterback and all that aside. The Packers 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.880 have their work cut out for him to make sure 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.480 they go out to Jersey and come away with the victory. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.800 You and I back in April when we were breaking 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.040 down and dissecting the schedule, we looked at this is 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.080 probably the toughest turnaround of the Packers season, knowing what 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:48.760 it was going to entail. And you have to remember, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.800 we didn't think the San Francisco forty Niners were going 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.320 to be the team that they are. Yeah, and we 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.680 still team to beat right now in the NFC. There's 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.960 no question about that. They could be the forty Niners 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.480 from last year with Nick Mullins, where they're three and 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.440 nine or whatever, and you're still going to be able 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.440 to You're gonna be put in a situation you have 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:06.680 to make a quick turn around. It's going to be 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.760 a challenge. Packers could have also won this game forty 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.960 two to nothing and it would be a significant challenge. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.479 So that's why I think it's gonna be really interesting 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.640 for Matt Lafleur this week to push the right buttons 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.000 with his team, not only mentally but also physically. We'll 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.720 see what Wednesday's practice looks like Thursday with Thanksgiving, how 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.560 the Packers go about handling that, which is traditionally they're 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.479 padded practice for the week. There's a lot of different 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.280 question marks that are in my head right now, but 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.000 the biggest thing, and some of the guys in the 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.800 locker room talked about this afterwards, you have to get 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.680 back on track now because in some ways this kind 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.960 of reminds me of the boxer that you know, or 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.040 you know a fighter that works their way up. They 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.000 get that championship about and they get knocked out in 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.360 the first couple of rounds. So what happens after that, Right, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.520 You're gonna end up working your way back up. You're 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.360 gonna end up probably having some handpicked opponents. Then you've 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.560 got to get your yourself back in a position where 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.159 you want to contend. That's where the Packers are right now. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.839 You can't look past the Giants, you can't look past Washington, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.719 you can't look past the Bears. Despite some of the 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.520 Bears struggles this season. You need to pick up the 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.719 w's that you're supposed to pick up now though, because 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.799 the only way to kind of take this bad sewer 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.600 taste out of your mouth is winning the games that 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.160 are in front of you and then going into us 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.280 Bank Stadium in a month's time eleven and three and 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.279 looking to, you know, prove some people wrong. So it's difficult. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.159 It's tough. They missed out on their opportunity to be 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.080 the top seed in the NFC race. But you know, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:30.839 I know, one of the things Matt Floor pointed to 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.560 and some of the players talked about as well, is 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.840 it showed him again where the bar is in what 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.120 they need to do to attain that bar and right now, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.760 whether it's execution, whether it's miscues, whether it's just not 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.200 being able to find the right efficiency and execution at 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.920 the right time, Packers just are not at that level 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.440 at this point. Yeah, I think the most disappointing things, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.599 certainly when you look at the overall performances that the 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.280 Packers were coming off a bye week and they were healthy. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.839 So yes, the fours are very good. They are the 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.480 top team in the NFC right now. Going out to 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.520 their place was going to be a big challenge no 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.320 matter what. But to really not be competitive in the 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.200 game when you're a healthy team, when you're coming off 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.800 a bye week, that's the that's the big red flag 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.760 with this team right now, because it's the second West 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.000 Coast trip in a month where the Packers have really 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:25.960 fallen flat, and there's you have to be careful now 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.680 because you have another road game against the Giants. You're 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.080 going to have back to back road games to Minneapolis 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.440 and Detroit in the last two weeks of the regular season. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.320 You can't you can't fall into this trap of of 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.200 being one of these teams that is that's like jackal 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.080 and hide, where play a certain way at home and 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.400 then another way on the road. Because the Packers offensive 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.400 line in these these last two road trips has not 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.000 held up against fierce pass rushes. The defense has been 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.160 giving up the big plays, and even when they're not 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.480 giving up the big plays, they're still giving up drives 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.880 for field goals. They're not getting a lot of stops 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.640 um when they're not playing at at lambeau Field. So 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.120 there's a lot for the Packers to work through here. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.440 But but you said it right now, the whole focus 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.360 is to get yourself in the position you need to 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.440 be in when you go to Minneapolis and Weeks sixteen 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.000 at US Bank Stadium. You're tied right now with the 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:25.640 Minnesota Vikings, both teams eight and three. UM. Both teams 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.920 have three games before that meeting in week sixteen on 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.160 Monday night, two days before Christmas, two nights before Christmas. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.600 And uh, that's that's really what you have to build 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.520 towards now, is to build towards that game. Yeah, and 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.520 you got to hope that, you know, they were able 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.120 to relatively speak and get out of this game healthy. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.320 There is the issue with Brian Bulaga. We'll see what 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.120 the week holds with him. Tough to lose him after 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.360 nine offensive snaps. Alex Light who has played some he 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.839 played seventy six offensive snaps going into this game, but 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.160 then he gets thrust in there for seventy one almost 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.880 matches that in this matchup against San Francisco in a 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.480 it's not just the fact that they have four or 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.560 five first round picks in that defensive front. It's how 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.440 many stunts they run. It's the things that they do 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.880 to confuse. Uh. And Robert Salad, to his credit, I thought, really, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.360 you know, mixes personnel well and made things difficult on 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.480 Aaron Rodgers in that offensive front. But yeah, you have 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.560 to put all that behind you now because the reality 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.880 is you're going from facing one of the premier, if 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.800 not the leading horse in the race right now in 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.960 San Francisco, to a New York Giants team that's really 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.360 struggling and struggling to find its identity. They appear to 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.280 have their quarterback in the future, they have their running 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.760 back in the future, but beyond that, there isn't a 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.319 whole lot to point to for New York Green Bays 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.440 eight and three. You have to, without any question, without blinking, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.160 and i without even considering what happened on Sunday night, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.160 going there and take care of business against the Giants, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.000 try to improve, try to find answers, and honestly, just 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.160 build some confidence in swagger here. Get on a run again. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.800 You know they've lost two of the last three now, 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:57.800 so get on a run. No better way to do 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.080 it than on the road against New York. Yeah, this 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.439 is one of those games coming up here. I'm reminded 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.280 that the thought just occurred to me. You know how 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.640 big a baseball fan I am as as big a 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.920 Brewers fan. As I am, I'm reminded of what Now. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.600 The circumstances are not exactly the same, but I'm reminded 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.480 of a message that Craig Council delivered to his Milwaukee 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:23.160 Brewers when Christian Yellich had broken his kneecap and you're 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:28.240 in Florida at Miami where you're playing a team that's 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.640 going nowhere. The stands were practically empty, and Craig Counsel's 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.760 message was these are the types of games you have 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.640 to bring your own energy. Now in New Jersey on Sunday, 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.320 the stadium is not going to be empty. There's gonna 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.760 be fans, there's gonna be noise and whatnot. But the 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.440 Giants are two and nine, they're in a rebuilding mode 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.839 with a rookie quarterback. The Packers need to try to 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.880 get their season back on track. You're not going to 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.920 have the lambeau Field crowd behind you. This is one 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.680 of those games the Packers are going to have to 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.000 bring their own energy and it's going to be a 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.680 challenge with everything that they've gone through. And as you said, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.760 we'll see what happens with Brian Bulaga and if there 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.600 are any um changes that need to be made on 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.240 the offensive line. But it's a but it is a 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.760 bring your own energy game because because the Packers cannot 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.280 continue to play like this on the road, They've got 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:19.960 to find it. They've got to find it within themselves because, um, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.440 because you're gonna have to win. You're gonna have to 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.880 win at least two, if not if not three road 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.520 games here down the stretch to be in the position 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.200 you want to be in. Yeah, and you know, credit 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.360 to Green Bay at this point. You know, one of 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.000 the reasons that they're sitting at eight and three is 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:36.959 they've won some games on the road, and they've won 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.640 some games in loud environments like Kansas City. Albeit I 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.839 know Patrick Mahomes wasn't playing in that game, but there 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.640 was an element of adversity they had to overcome. They 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.840 beat the Dallas Cowboys, who could very well end up 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.480 being the NFC East representative there. They had those type 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.920 of games. But you know how this is, Mike, There's 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.480 gonna be levels to this game. In San Francisco, New Orleans, Seattle, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.040 they're kind of on that top tier. Now. Green Bay 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.280 hasn't had a chance to test themselves against the Saints 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.800 and Seahawks. But you know the proof is in the pudding. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.559 Minnesota and Green Bay, I think are trying to figure 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.520 out exactly where they fit into this picture. So this 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.760 journey to get to that week fifteen week sixteen game, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.720 now that's paramount. And again the third step doesn't matter 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.200 unless the first step is a good one. And that's 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.760 why the Giants that has to be the focus. Now, yeah, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.160 you mentioned the road victories at Dallas and at Kansas City. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.720 In the wee hours of the morning on the flight 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.120 back as I was writing Insider Inbox, I made that. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.360 I made this comment, you take week one and everything 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.480 that goes into the Chicago trip kind of out of 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.400 it because weak ones are weak ones. They are what 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:44.000 they are. But those two road victories at Dallas at 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.880 Kansas City were essentially predicated on getting off to the 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.080 fast start. You were up thirty one to three on 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.760 the Cowboys. In the third quarter, you jumped out fourteen 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.760 nothing on Kansas City. Now the Chiefs came back much 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.400 much quicker, but you got up, you got out fourteen 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.439 to nothing. They came back and then you were kind 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.559 of in a dog fight the rest of the way. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.880 The Packers have to find a way on the road 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.960 that when things don't start well, they have to find 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.920 a way to to you know, to turn the key 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.880 and get the engine started. Because these last two, uh, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.120 these last two road trips for the West Coast, they've 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:19.720 started poorly on offense and simply never found anything. And 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.600 you can't you can't end up feeling like you're defeated 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.040 after one quarter on the road if you don't start well. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.320 They've got to find another way to win a road game. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.439 And that's that's the thing, because it's really interesting where 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.439 it's not like this has been a prolonged issue where 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.920 in eleven games Green Bay has just not been able 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.200 to get off the fast starts. It's either been red 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.319 hot or ice cold. So you know, you obviously want 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.679 to always steer towards red hot, but if it isn't that, 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.320 you need to make sure you stay in in the 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.040 middle and equilibrium and and that's been a challenge for 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.120 Green Bay. And again this is why I just I 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.400 look at these games against New York in Washington and 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.520 you cannot look past them. I mean, they are huge important. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:01.840 We do not want to be sitting here a week 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.080 from now talking about letdowns I mean, it's just that 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.080 it's not the narrative of the season right now. But 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.720 that being said, this is the opportunity now in front 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.560 of you. And and if you're the packers, you have 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.920 your schedule here at the last five and then you 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.760 look at what San Francisco is dealing with and the 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.400 challenge that they face in Seattle. You have to be 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.400 thankful for your lot in life right now and you 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.440 have to capitalize on those opportunities. Yeah, before I forget 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.040 here West, a little sponsored business. Select Cousin Subs locations 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:34.240 are now offering delivery whether you're ordering online or sorry, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.160 whether you're ordering catering or your favorite sub, they're delivering 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.160 right to you when you order online at Cousin Subs 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.040 dot com. Cousin Subs we believe in better. First time 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.840 I've stumbled on that, and it tells you how tired 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.000 I am. It also tells you how solid you've been. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.600 I mean, you know, it's like a gold glove outfielder, right, 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.520 I mean, every once in a while, every season, there 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.320 might be that one that comes out of the glove. Hey, 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.160 can I before I think we're gonna wrap up here 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.720 on on some of the other games that the other 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.280 action that happened. But before we get there, I just 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.320 want to mention Zadarius Smith, and I wrote about it 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.760 his acknowledgement for a member of the equipment staff. I 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.720 get it it was like the only silver line to 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.280 this game, but I thought it was meaningful on two 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.560 different reasons here, and before I get into that, I'll 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.600 mention this was a gesture that he had come up 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.480 with with a member of the Packers team equipment staff 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.240 whose mother has has been battling in illness, and throughout 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.200 the week when they got back they had discussed this, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.320 and when they got back from the bye week, uh, 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.040 that equipment staff member, they came up with this idea 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.800 to do a T shirt an undershirt underneath zadarius jersey 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.680 that said we heart Eileen. Matt Arvin might be able 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.360 to bring that up on a on a photo here. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.840 But an incredible neat thing that the sun is actually 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.200 the one that drew that for Zadarius on there, and 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.240 is after his first sack in the second quarter, actually 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.480 lifted up the cameras were able to capture it. The 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.960 other thing to this that's pretty neat. Zadarius Smith, one 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.120 and a half sacks moves to ten on the season, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.120 him and Presston now over that twenty mark the first 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.360 time since three the Packers have had two pass rushers 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.840 over double digits sacks. What an investment they made their 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.280 Brian Goodkuin's made those two Mike the way that they're trending, 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.960 in addition to a really nice emotional moment for them, Um, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.880 that could very well go down as one of the 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.040 best signings of Packers I've had here in free agency 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.560 over the last twenty five years. Yeah. Absolutely, two guys 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.440 in double digits and sacks with five games to go. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.440 It was Reggie White and Bryce pop In. Was the 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.080 last time the Packers had two in double digits and 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:33.960 a lot of things went wrong for Green beying that game. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.120 But I really challenge you if you have a chance 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.000 to rewatch. I'm sure there's not a lot of Patrickracks 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.400 that want too. I think you'll probably talk about this somewhat. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.440 And one last with h You know what you might 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.280 have missed is the Darius oppressing Smith. You talk about 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.240 two guys whose engines don't stop until the final whistle. Man, again, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.480 I'm waiting for the final stats on pro football focused 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.800 as far as how many pressures that Darius generated. Again 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.920 in this game, that guy keeps working. Unfortunately, just wasn't 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.760 enough defensively. Yeah, no, it wasn't. Elsewhere in the NFC 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.760 where things stand right now, everybody, everybody now has had 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.600 their bye week. Everybody has five games left to go. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.240 The San Francisco for THEA Enters are ten and one, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.320 The New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks are nine and two. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:20.520 The Green Bay Packers in Minnesota Vikings are eight and three. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.280 The Saints they they caught a break west um twenty 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.320 eight yard field goal that's missed. Now, obviously the Saints 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.679 still would have had a chance to either win with 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.560 a touchdown or tie with a field goal and get 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.680 the game to overtime. But a twenty eight yard field 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.000 goal missed by the Carolina Panthers with two minutes to go, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.040 and then it gives Drew Brees the ball and as predicted, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.680 he marches the Saints down the field, puts Will LUTs 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:50.399 in position. New Orleans escapes after blowing a two score 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.679 lead in the second half to Carolina. So the Saints 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.600 get to nine into the Seahawks get to nine and 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.720 two by taking care of business on the road at Philadelphia, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.000 Carson Wentz did not really have any of his primary 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.280 offensive weapons with the exception of Zach Ertz and Carson 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.479 Wentz frankly just did not play well. And um um 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.280 and Seattle, Um, they got the victory. It wasn't it 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.919 wasn't pretty, it wasn't anything spectacular, but um, but they 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.000 are nine and two and still right on the forty 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:24.920 niners heels in the NFC West. And then um, interesting 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.360 game tonight with the Los Angeles Rams at six and five, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.640 trying to stay in this playoff chase in the NFC 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.560 with a big home game in prime time against the 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:41.080 Baltimore Ravens, the team that everybody is uh um pegging 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.119 as one of the top teams, certainly one of the 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.000 top two teams in the a f C, if not 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.480 the top team right now, and one of the top 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.600 teams in the league altogether, the most dynamic, explosive team 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.920 I think right now in professional football, and and certainly 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.160 one of the hottest uh in the Ravens. So that's 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.200 a big challenge for the Rams. Thing that's kind of 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.000 stinks for Green Bay is they didn't get any help. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:01.800 They really didn't get any help the last two weeks 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.679 when you look at how this thing when there were 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.840 a lot of games that were looking like maybe the 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.040 Packers would get some help, and then they and then 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.240 they all they all went the other way. Yeah, and 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.560 phil It's funny, Philadelphia and Carolina are both five and six, 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.560 But man, there's a different feeling about both of those. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.719 Five and six is Carolina It's like they are just 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.960 a few plays here. They're away from, you know, being 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.960 a team that's in playoff contention. And the Eagles, to me, 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.240 just continue to flounder and as you mentioned, there's a 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.720 lot of injuries are dealing with, but their inability to 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.400 fight through some of those things has been a thing 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.560 that has plagued them. Seattle finds a way to win, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.800 though Russell Wilson only throws for two hundred yards, not 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.480