1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Well, as we've been reporting today's shareholders and Tiler proved 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: a three for one stock split, joining us to talk 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: about this more Ludlow Bloomberg Technology Reporter and the timing 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: of this it looks to be pretty good. Yeah, I 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: mean it was expected. You know, no one thought that 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: the resolution wouldn't pass, partly because it was so telegraphed. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Tesla tweeted in March that they wanted to do it, 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: and the annual shareholder meeting was only scheduled a month ago, 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: so you know, we saw some muted share reaction and 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: after hours, but it's important because it lowers the price 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: to around three hundred dollars a share. I would note 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: very importantly for any shareholders listening. They did not set 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: any dates or terms and when the stock split comes effective, 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: so we still need to hear more from the company. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: But they've done it before in August and that was 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: effective a five for one stock split, and it kind 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: of democratizes access and it has proven to be a 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: boost for the stock over a longer period in the past. 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Even though it was made official today, I think the 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: market had been in the process of discounting the likelihood 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: of this outcome. So the question becomes was it necessary 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: to kind of put the defibrillator on Tesla shares? I mean, 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: is it going to resuscitate the stock and bring it 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: back to life as it were? Yeah, I mean taking 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: the kind of series of events from the annual shareholder 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: meeting overall, the main takeaway you have is just how 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: crucial the retail investors in all of this. You know, 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Tesla's launched this new platform for retail shareholder engagement so 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: they can talk more regularly with management. Retail investors were 30 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: very present in person at the factory. You know, often 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: these annual meetings are kind of a dud, right, guys, 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: We've covered so many of them where they're just not interesting. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: But the Tesla shareholder base is so engaged, and many 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: retail investors just don't have the capital right to buy 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: stock in meaningful volumes at thousand dollars a share. Bringing 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: it down three hundred does make it a little more accessible. 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: M One interesting point is that you know, Tesla has 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: not done share buy backs, and that was one of 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: the ideas that was floated during this shareholder meeting during 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: the Q and a U, But this is kind of 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: a similar mechanism you know, for for I guess, not 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: returning capital, but but making it an easier ride for 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: the shareholder. Well, there's a lot of enthusiasm, as you say, 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: for Tislas stock among retail and visitors. But what about 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: TISLA bonds. Are they do for an upgrade? About now? Yeah, 46 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: it's an interesting one. I mean, Tesla has always it's 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: cash on hand is not a problem, right, And I 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: think what's really interesting is, you know, Meta, the parent 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: company Facebook, went to the debt markets for the first 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: time today. I'm laughing because it wasn't the story I 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: expected when I woke up. You know, Apple has has 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: done its usual annual tapping of the debt markets. Conditions 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: such as they are, the credit market improved, Tesla has 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of been modest but consistent in debt markets. It 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: has a lot of cash, it's it's well, it's cash 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: flow is pretty strong, right, and so you know, it's 57 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: in a position where it's it's in an enviable position 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: where it can invest its own cash and maybe they will, 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: maybe they won't, but it's not something that was really 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: discussed at the shareholding meetings. So away from trying to 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: excite to retail investors, about Tesla Starck. I'm wondering whether 62 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: we got a little bit more visibility into the company's 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: business as a part of this meeting. I mean, what 64 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: do we know about where they are in strategy? And 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm also curious as whether or not the subject of 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: Twitter came up at all. There's so much we have 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: such a little time. But you know, broadly, yes, the 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: plan is to build many more factories. Musk said they 69 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: could announce another factory location this year. He reiterated this 70 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: idea that ultimately they have this long term target to 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: build twenty million evs a year by thirty To do that, 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: they'll need around a dozen factories, he says, which gives 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: you the kind of idea of the pace at which 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: they build. You know, they're working very hard on batteries. 75 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: They're working very hard on artificial intelligence for a future 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: where Tesla's drive themselves and so their fleets. You don't 77 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: own it as a consumer car on Twitter. Yes, he 78 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: was asked about it. That's the joy of the shareholder meeting. 79 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: There's a Q and A. He said that he really 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: understands the product that he gets himself in trouble on 81 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: there um, but that he felt he could really help Twitter, 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: which I thought was a very interesting comment because this 83 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: week he is countersued Twitter over this this deal, and he's, 84 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, each side has filed a number of subpoenas. 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: It's getting quite ugly in the legal forum. And yet 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: here he is at the Tesla shareholder M's saying, Hey, 87 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: I think I can really help this company, which was 88 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: an interesting reaction. Do we get any news. I know 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: we got some news about Cybertruck, the Optimus Root, a 90 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: couple of new products. Tell us about that. Oh yes, 91 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about cyber Ttruck. I mean, he's 92 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: always doing fighting talk and he kind of mocks himself 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: about his previously missed projections and timelines. But Cybertruck is 94 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: on track to be starting production in the second half 95 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: halfway through next year. They're going to start installing the 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: factory um the equipment at the Austin factory in the 97 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: next couple of months. One key thing when the Cybertruck 98 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: was unveiled in two thousand nineteen, I was there, if 99 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: you remember, a metal ball got thrown at the window 100 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: and it smashed, which wasn't supposed to happen. But the 101 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: deposit price was only and the sticker price was around 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: forty dollars and must basically claim clean and said that's 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: just not going to happen. The cybertruck they build will 104 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: be very much more expensive, the deposit much higher, and 105 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: that of course accounts for inflation and the supply chain 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: crunch we've seen in the last two and a half years. 107 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: And it's always a pleasure. Thanks so much for making 108 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: time to chat with us. Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow there he 109 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: covers technology from our bureau in San Francisco, joining us 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: here on Daybreak Asia