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Speaker 1: Every day.

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Speaker 2: Up, Click up the Breakfast Club. Finish for y'all, dump morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is the j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the God.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Laura Lorosa is here as well,

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Speaker 1: and we got a.

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Speaker 2: Special guest in the building, the legend Bobby Brown.

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Speaker 1: Hello, listen, which one now? I gotta tell me which one?

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Speaker 1: This is not new edition Boston, my prerogative, Bobby Brown.

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Speaker 1: This is Bobby Brown, makeup artists, entrepreneur, owner of Bobby

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Speaker 1: Brown Cosmetics and more. She has a new book out

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Speaker 1: right now called Still Bobby.

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on now. Bobby Brown Cosmetics was old?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was That was the first one. Jones

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Speaker 3: Road is the new one.

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Speaker 4: I love that you have Jones Road. I'm gonna just

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Speaker 4: let you know right now. I hope this is not

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Speaker 4: of thing you I thought you were black. I ain't

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Speaker 4: gonna lie to you because you're Bobby Browne. It's so

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Speaker 4: good for my skin, our skin, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and usually you.

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Speaker 4: Know, you know, we only we're the only ones who

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Speaker 4: know our skin.

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Speaker 3: But it's like, baby, Bobby, I'm you know, my background

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Speaker 3: as I'm a makeup artist. I spent my life doing makeup,

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Speaker 3: and I had this crazy idea that you should put

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Speaker 3: a foundation on that's the exact color of your skin.

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Speaker 4: The skin stick, the correct man everything that the foundation

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Speaker 4: with the sunscreen, the SBF.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jones Road is even better. Jones is even better.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I've I've I've done so many, so

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Speaker 3: many different makeups, so many celebrities, so many women, and

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Speaker 3: you know, it took a while to kind of teach

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Speaker 3: women that you just want to look good, you want

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Speaker 3: to look like yourself. I mean I used to do

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Speaker 3: with In Houston's makeup. She did not like the makeup

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Speaker 3: to look natural. She wanted a lighter foundation, and I

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Speaker 3: used to fight, I'm like, you can't.

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Speaker 4: It's got to match your skin, especially under them lights.

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Speaker 4: So thank you, miss.

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Speaker 3: I'm great. I'm great.

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Speaker 5: I want people to buy the book still, Bobby, but

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Speaker 5: I do want you to give them a little bit

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Speaker 5: of your history.

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Speaker 2: Like you started as a makeup artist.

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Speaker 5: How does the makeup artist go from that to creating

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Speaker 5: her first billion dollar brand?

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Speaker 2: Bobby brant Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Was a makeup artist that when I started in the eighties,

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Speaker 3: it was all really artificial makeup and just really not attractive,

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Speaker 3: and I started doing makeup a different way. But the

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Speaker 3: makeup on the market sucks. It was not good. I

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Speaker 3: used to have to fix everything. And one day I

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Speaker 3: met a chemist and I said, hey, I've always wanted

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Speaker 3: to make this lipstick, and he's like, I can make

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Speaker 3: it for you. So we made it, and I said,

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Speaker 3: I bet I could sell this, you know, And then

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Speaker 3: I thought about ten colors and I made it and

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Speaker 3: I started selling out of my house, you know, when

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Speaker 3: I had my first baby and my hometown of Montclair,

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Speaker 3: New Jersey, and I would be going into the city

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Speaker 3: to do fashion and Vogue and all that stuff. And

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Speaker 3: then it just kind of grew from there. And one

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Speaker 3: day I met someone and I talked to everybody because

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Speaker 3: I think most people are nice and interesting, and I said,

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Speaker 3: what do you do? She said, I'm a cosmetics buyer

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Speaker 3: at Burgdorf Goodman. I'm like, oh, I have this line

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Speaker 3: of makeup. I'm more. And I got into Bergdorf Goodman

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Speaker 3: didn't shop there at the time. Wow, But I sold

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Speaker 3: the makeup there and the rest is history. And then

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Speaker 3: we sold the company to Esti Lauder after four and

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Speaker 5: Now, I don't want to give too much away, but

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Speaker 5: just break down the details of that situation.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, after four and a half years, we sold to

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Speaker 3: STI Lauder. I stayed as an corporate employee twenty two years.

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Speaker 3: You could read the book, you could text me afterwards

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Speaker 3: and ask me other questions. But you know, so that

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Speaker 3: was the first brand. And then I you know, while

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Speaker 3: I was I think the only reason I was able

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Speaker 3: to stay in corporate America because I am the least

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Speaker 3: corporate person you have ever met. I don't break the rules.

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Speaker 3: I just make up my own is. I used to

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Speaker 3: do all these cool things on the side. I was

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Speaker 3: I became the beauty editor of Elvis Duran and Elves. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: is like six years. I think he just celebrated. I

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Speaker 3: think so something something like that, and you know, and

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Speaker 3: I just liked this guy, and I'm like, let's have

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Speaker 3: dinner and he's like, all right, great, and we made

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Speaker 3: dinner plans and the rest is his.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what foundation.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's got such beautiful skin. He doesn't wear any that's.

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Speaker 4: His secrets of his which you would would would be

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Speaker 4: the shade back then.

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Speaker 2: Did you know him before that?

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Speaker 1: I did, I did not. I did not, But I

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Speaker 1: love that.

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Speaker 2: You had a nod compete for twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five twenty five years. And so when we sold the company,

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Speaker 3: I was thirty four. And when my husband said we

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Speaker 3: got this non compete, I mean I always got ds

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Speaker 3: you know, and not be good in school, I think

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Speaker 3: is something to consider. But I counted on my fingers.

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Speaker 3: I said, well, I'll be sick in my sixties. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to want to work when I'm in my sixties.

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Speaker 3: Fast forward, I'm sixty eight right now. So I started

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Speaker 3: this company really good.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I mean that, you know why, because I don't shoot

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Speaker 3: anything in my face? Okay, I'm shocked, you look really

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Speaker 3: really honestly, it's the truth, I think. But I'm also

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Speaker 3: into health and wellness and fitness, and you know.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you about that, because it seems

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Speaker 1: like that's the new trend now. If you watch any

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Speaker 1: show on television, it's all about lip fillers and fillers

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Speaker 1: and red talks. What do you think about someone that's.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it. I don't like I don't like

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Speaker 3: any of it. I don't I don't feel it looks natural.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it looks good. And I think you know,

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Speaker 3: the important thing is how you feel and your lifestyle choices.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I like to have fun like everyone, but

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Speaker 3: I know how to balance and I know what to

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Speaker 3: I don't run to the doctor to say fix me up.

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Speaker 3: I look at myself in the mirror and say, what

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Speaker 3: have you been doing that's not working? And change it?

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Speaker 6: Wow, So how do you implement?

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Speaker 2: She cut her off? She was a grown woman, and

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Speaker 2: you launched another brand?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I launched another brand when the day my

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Speaker 3: non compete was out, and which was literally a week

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Speaker 3: before the presidential election. You remember that time, in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the pandemic. I just flicked the light up

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Speaker 3: and did three things and we launched the brand. Didn't

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Speaker 3: know what was going to happen and this we're celebrating

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Speaker 3: five years amazing. It's yeah, it's been amazing.

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Speaker 2: Now George rod Is a billion is like I got

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Speaker 2: to buy this one now too, right.

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Speaker 3: Something we're not for sale.

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Speaker 6: I forget what I was.

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Speaker 7: I guess now that we're here in that part of

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Speaker 7: your journey, like business wise, like what are your go to?

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Speaker 7: Like here's what I always rule of thumbs and business

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Speaker 7: because you make it just seems so effortless, like oh

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Speaker 7: I met a woman at Berdiff Goodman and boom, we're

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Speaker 7: in the store. I know it's not but in not

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Speaker 7: giving away too much from the book, but like, what

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Speaker 7: are those things that you kept very near and dear

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Speaker 3: It honestly you do every time, honestly, Like it's common sense.

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Speaker 3: It's just doing things the way you do things. And

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Speaker 3: it's doing things the way you know my parents taught me,

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Speaker 3: you know my grandparents, Like I grew up with this

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Speaker 3: loving family, complicated but loving and but they were you know,

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Speaker 3: to be nice. You had to be nice. You just

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Speaker 3: there was no excuse not to be nice, and you

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Speaker 3: had to you know, be a little creative with your thinking,

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Speaker 3: and when things didn't work, you're like, all right, that

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Speaker 3: didn't work, let me do something else. That's how I

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't mess around. I don't like when

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Speaker 3: how and strategizing. I've already done it. Yeah, I've already

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Speaker 1: Now how do you work with I know your son

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Speaker 1: is the CEO of your company. A lot of people say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want my family part of

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Speaker 1: the companies because family usually mess things up. You can't

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Speaker 1: talk the family. But you took a different route, So

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Speaker 3: I did not choose to work with my family and

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Speaker 3: work with us on some growth things. He knows a

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Speaker 3: lot about digital marketing, he's he's now people meet us

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Speaker 3: and they're like, oh my god, your son is the

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Speaker 3: you know, is the guy. I'm like, yeah, I'm so

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Speaker 3: proud of that. But so he started helping and we

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Speaker 3: like it's it seems like the more we get rid

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Speaker 3: of people, the better our team is. It's about having

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Speaker 3: like your community, your posse, and putting your heads together

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Speaker 3: and figuring out what to do. And he's been incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just been incredible, and it's not the

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Speaker 3: easiest thing working with the family.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: On top of that, my head of brand is his wife,

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Speaker 3: which is amazing, and she's a very beautiful, tough, smart woman.

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Speaker 3: And they have my two grandkids. So I've learned, you know,

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Speaker 3: the most important thing in my life is not to

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Speaker 3: piss them off, because I want to see those grand

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Speaker 3: kids every single day.

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Speaker 5: How has motherhood influenced your philosophy and business our beauty?

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Speaker 3: You know, the greatest thing about being a woman and

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Speaker 3: being a mother is we know how to multitask. If

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Speaker 3: I ask my husband or my chiropractor, any guy a question,

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Speaker 3: they stop what they're doing and answer you women, you

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Speaker 3: ask a question. You know, we're on the phone, we're

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Speaker 3: getting her nails done, we're chopping vegetables. So it's you know,

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Speaker 3: I just think being a mom, I have figured things out,

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I tell everyone, try to work

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Speaker 5: I want to say, this is a woman who's been

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Speaker 1: Okay, said worked for years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. First of all, you got to learn things like

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Speaker 3: It's you know why Jones Road. I think one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like the stuff I say to my husband

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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying that.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 3: What about fried chicken, Bobby? You know what just do?

438
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 3: First of all, I also went back to school got

439
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 3: my degree as a health coach. So fried chicken, French fries,

440
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 3: those things that taste good, just do less of it.

441
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 3: Just don't have it as your everyday diet unless you

442
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: don't care about how you feel. I mean, maybe you

443
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 3: feel good. I don't know. I don't feel good when

444
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 3: I eat junky food.

445
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 7: You know, that's interesting to hear you talk about going

446
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 7: back to school because a lot of a lot of entrepreneurs,

447
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 7: especially in the beauty space too, will say they don't

448
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 7: do school because it doesn't like nothing creative comes out

449
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 7: of being in college, of being in a classroom.

450
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 6: A lot of people feel like that as well.

451
00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: Well.

452
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 3: I went to my third college, which was Emerson College

453
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 3: in Boston. I went because I wanted to study theatrical makeup.

454
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: They let me. They didn't have a course. They let

455
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 3: me make up my own course. Well, I didn't know

456
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 3: the word entrepreneur back then. I still don't know how

457
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: to spell it, by the way, but they let me

458
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 3: make it up. So I learned how to kind of

459
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: craft my own road by going to school. So I

460
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: have a degree in theatrical makeup.

461
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

462
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 5: The thing I love about still Bobby the most is

463
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 5: like it just shows how rooted and family you are.

464
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 5: And when you think about the two major brands that

465
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 5: you've built and you raised a family, what was some

466
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 5: of the hardest trade offs you had to make?

467
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 3: It was tough. I mean, you know, I when you

468
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 3: commit to a certain trip, if something comes up, I

469
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 3: couldn't cancel it, you know. I once was supposed to

470
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 3: do like this big fashion show, and I said yes

471
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: to it. It was confirmed, and then my kids and

472
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 3: my husband said they're gone skiing. Whatever break it was,

473
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 3: I canceled the fashion show and guess what, they never

474
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: hired me again. Opes. Oh well, so every year I

475
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: made sure I went to the principal the first day's

476
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,239
Speaker 3: school with lip glosses, say hi, you know, here's some

477
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: a gift for you. Could you please tell me what

478
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 3: are the dates?

479
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: Like?

480
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 3: When is the school sing along? When's you know, the

481
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 3: teachers conferences? Because I wanted to be there and I

482
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: put them in my calendar, so I blocked those out

483
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 3: and I never missed one. I think I missed one

484
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 3: out of all the years of the three kids one

485
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 3: of their singalongs. And my kids are wonderful, but they

486
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 3: got no talent. But I was at every sing along.

487
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: None of them could sing, none of them could dance,

488
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 3: but I was.

489
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Speaker 2: There looking back, Would you change how you balanced those roles?

490
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 7: No?

491
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 3: I got really lucky. I really did put my family first.

492
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 3: And you know, my kids might say I wasn't there

493
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 3: all the time, but for a working mom, I was there.

494
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: I was the class mom almost every year for at

495
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: least one of them. You know, and it was so

496
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 3: stressful for me because I don't know how to type.

497
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 3: And how could you be a class mom and not

498
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: know how to type. I don't know how to type.

499
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 5: What would you say to women who feel like they

500
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 5: can't have it all, like they can't balance it all?

501
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 3: You do what you can. I mean, I got better

502
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 3: as I got older, Like I was not this Bobby

503
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: Brown when I was a thirty year old, you know,

504
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: worker or mom. I got better and I just learned.

505
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: I like hacked my life. I just, you know, I

506
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: hacked my life things that were stressful, like you know,

507
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 3: realizing your kid is a birthday party on a Saturday

508
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: and you didn't buy a gift and you run out

509
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: you buy a gift and then you come home and

510
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 3: you got to wrap it and you gotta get the

511
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: kid ready. I'm like, this is stupid. I went to

512
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 3: the local bookstore and I bought gift certificates for ten

513
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: and twenty dollars, and every time they had a birthday party,

514
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: I just threw a couple in an envelope like I'm done.

515
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: Well, I've been doing that one, I know, but I

516
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: didn't think of that. That's an easy one. Yeah, A

517
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: bunch of GI certificates. Go ahead, every one.

518
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: We yeah, six six kads?

519
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah it Me and my wife got six wow, married

520
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: twenty four years, Yeah, six kids. Logan's number two. Madison

521
00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: is old.

522
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: Didn't know you guys were married.

523
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 4: No, she has a Mexican I don't have a Mexican.

524
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 4: Mexican crazy. We have two kids, and I'm going to

525
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: get my wife of six.

526
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: And you have four.

527
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 4: And I'm showing ask you that question because that's what

528
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do now, trying to balance, you know,

529
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: the work, the mom life, everything I have going on.

530
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: Don't worry when your kids are out of the house.

531
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: She'll have it together, okay, And you know what, so

532
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: what you don't have it together? I remember, you know,

533
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: and I had to be a corporate person and dress

534
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: up and show up like, you know, like I was

535
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: Melanie Griffith and working girl. You know, I didn't know anything.

536
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget. Tina Brown, who was this big

537
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: editor in chief, was on stage once and someone asked

538
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: her how she did it. She goes, oh my god,

539
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: it was a ship show. It was always a mess.

540
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: I always forgot things, and that just gave me permission

541
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, to be real, Like that's my advice.

542
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: Be real, Yes, it's sometimes it's a shit show. And

543
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: tell your boss if you're gonna be late, tell them

544
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: if there's a reason you're not your best self, maybe

545
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: the kid didn't sleep all night, whatever it is. Yeah,

546
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, be real and don't worry about it.

547
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 5: How important is people knowing Bobby Brown the person to

548
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 5: Bobby Brown the brand.

549
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think people get confused. They think I am

550
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: still with the brand and I am not. The book

551
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: tells the whole story. And yeah, it was hard. You know,

552
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't own my name, so I can't just you know,

553
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: slap my name on things or use it the way

554
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: I want. But it's okay. You know, I've been able

555
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: to my husband and I have probably sent twenty twenty

556
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: five kids to college, so it's it's okay. I'm glad,

557
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, I'm at peace with it. And Jones Road,

558
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 3: you know, just came. I found it on Ways when

559
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: I was given my husband direction, and I'm like, oh,

560
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: that sounds like a cool name.

561
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 2: But I feel like Bobby bron the person is the brand.

562
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: There, Bobby Brown the person is the Jones Road brand. Yeah,

563
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: it's not. I know it's complicated, right, it's complicated. But

564
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: you know, there's Calvin Klein, there's HARMANI, there's all you know,

565
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: Donna Karen. So it's you know, it is the way

566
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: of the world. But you know, yeah, I Bobby Brown.

567
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: I mean, who knew people were brands, but we are apparently.

568
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 5: I was alway Jones Road.

569
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: The significance behind that is just you just saw it

570
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 4: on Wait.

571
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband said, if I didn't have a name

572
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: by Monday. It was a Friday. We were driving to

573
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 3: the Hampton's and my husband always has me look at

574
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: ways and Google Maps because god forbid, we're five minutes late,

575
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 3: even though we have nowhere to go. So my head

576
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: was down and I saw Jones Road and I said,

577
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: Jones Road. Makeup Instantly, I thought it sounded like a

578
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: British bespoke, you know brand, And I thought, oh, that's

579
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 3: a cool name. And I can't use Brown, I might

580
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: as well use Jones. So he said I like it,

581
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: and it was available, and that's how it became Jones Road.

582
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 7: Why don't you believe in contoorn.

583
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: Because what's wrong with your face? Then you need to contour.

584
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 7: I think when you contour, it just gives you like this,

585
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 7: like slim like pool together. Like I see the difference

586
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 7: in photos when I contour when I don't. My face

587
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 7: is fire either way, but I do see. But I

588
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 7: do see the difference.

589
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: A lot of people that contour. First of all, it

590
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: makes them think there's something wrong with their face. Contour

591
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: is when you put something dark to make it recede.

592
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: Like I like to contour my stomach. I'm sorry, put

593
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: something nice and tight on. I will contour that all day.

594
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: But my face, well first, so I don't. I don't

595
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: have a lot of fat in my face, so I

596
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: like to use blush to make my face look a

597
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 3: little bit fuller. And I don't know. I think people

598
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: are beautiful as they are. They don't need to change

599
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: the shape of their nose.

600
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's the thing where I see online where they

601
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: put the dog online.

602
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 5: And make the.

603
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 6: Cheeks too.

604
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 5: And you know you didn't have to get a those job.

605
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: I did not get a noose jobs. If he did

606
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: tell her what happened to no, I did not. I

607
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: was ignoring a lot. So when I went to the doctor,

608
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: they removed the polyps. That was it. There was no

609
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: nose job. It's the same nose, Flimmers.

610
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm not judging fixed.

611
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: You have a beautiful nose.

612
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: He does eyebrows though, you see that way You never

613
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: did you eyebrows?

614
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: Wow?

615
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: In high school.

616
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: With me being an adult and you know, guys are

617
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: allowed to groom. Guys are allowed to groom. It's not

618
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: a bad thing.

619
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the most difficult memory our chapter for

620
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 5: you to revisit while he was writing?

621
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's really funny because I had a you know,

622
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: it's an audible book too right now, So I had

623
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: to I had to read it and I cried once.

624
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: And it was talking about my mother in law that

625
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 3: I just adored her, and I just you know, the

626
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 3: hard part, the hard weird thing is all the people

627
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: that were my family are not alive anymore, right, like

628
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: my original Chicago family. I mean, my dad is ninety

629
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: right now and he's still there, but he's only one.

630
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: You know. I lost a brother, I lost a mom,

631
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: I lost my grandparents, you know. And it's like and

632
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: my ninety four year old aunt Dallas is still there,

633
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: sharp as attack. She has a boyfriend who's ninety five. Wow,

634
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: and she's interviewing me on stage in Chicago when I

635
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: come there at her retirement community. Wow, that's what I'm

636
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: excited about this book tour. When are you going to

637
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: Chicago October tenth or something?

638
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 5: How did that make you look at your own mortality?

639
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 3: You know? I look, it's weird because I know, you know,

640
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: my parents were twenty and twenty one when I was born,

641
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm just twenty years to go, right,

642
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, you know, I hope to live

643
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: over ninety. But it's like shit, you know sixty eight guys,

644
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: like it's totally young. Keep learning hip path.

645
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes me years off.

646
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna text Flo Rider to come

647
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: DJ my birthday and Floriade's if they today. Actually, I

648
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: can't believe it. I hoped. My One of my best

649
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: memories of my life is hop it on stage with

650
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: Flow Rider made he put his chains on me and

651
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: I Also I also hopped on stage with Salt and Pepper.

652
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you did the Apple bottom Jean, you

653
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: did all that. You did push it.

654
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: No, we didn't do push it. We did get low.

655
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Speaker 3: I got low with Flow. Well, you know, my dad's

656
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Speaker 3: name is James Brown. So when you meet my dad,

657
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: you'd be like, James Brown is like, yeah, I feel good.

658
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Speaker 3: How are you saying that for ninety years?

659
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Speaker 1: James to great.

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Speaker 7: Part one of your book is now where You're from?

661
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Speaker 7: Talking about your family, and then you go into your

662
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Speaker 7: nana and your papa. Right, Why why is knowing where

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Speaker 7: you're from? Or how has that been so important in

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Speaker 7: every brain you've created?

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Speaker 3: Because it's who I am? Right, it's you know, being

666
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: from Chicago has made me like a much I think,

667
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: a much more like stable person with my feet in

668
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Speaker 3: the ground, you know. I know Charlemagne talks about where

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Speaker 3: he comes from. I just think it's important. And by

670
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Speaker 3: the way, some people say my childhood was complicated, and

671
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Speaker 3: I don't look at it that way. I mean things happened,

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Speaker 3: and I moved around it, and I you know, I

673
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Speaker 3: take the good stuff and I don't blame anyone for anything, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean my mother there's a story in the book

675
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Speaker 3: where she told me I was really pretty and I said,

676
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Speaker 3: thank you. She said, but you'd be gorgeous if you

677
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Speaker 3: had your nose fixed, and I didn't clearly, and I

678
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Speaker 3: just it didn't define me, but it did push me

679
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Speaker 3: to help people appreciate who they are.

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Speaker 7: Oh so that that that's what steers you away from

681
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Speaker 7: the contour.

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Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think so. And you know, every

683
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Speaker 3: time I'd go to Asia and I would tell the

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Speaker 3: women they're beautiful, they would just say, oh no, my

685
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Speaker 3: eyes are this and my feet and I'm like no.

686
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Speaker 3: And you know, in women of color, it's like, guys,

687
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Speaker 3: you have this beauty that we don't have, like, appreciate it,

688
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: your skin color, your features, everything. And you know, to

689
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Speaker 3: my fellow friends with lips small, you know that match

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Speaker 3: their faces, leave those things alone.

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Speaker 1: Right, Like people look so stupid with them their lips.

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Speaker 3: Who if you get it's just it doesn't work even

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Speaker 3: when you just I'm just gonna do a teeny bit. No,

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Speaker 3: you look like a duck.

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Speaker 2: How do you define authenticity?

696
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Speaker 3: But just be yourself, be real, Just be yourself, be real.

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Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, now it's a trend. Being

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Speaker 3: authentic as a trend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, great, has your definition of authenticity I've a shifted

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Speaker 5: over time?

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think I've gotten much more comfortable

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Speaker 3: with who I am. And that's that's a good part

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Speaker 3: about getting older. You're like, you realize I tried on

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Speaker 3: everyone else and it didn't work right.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna ask about your light weight makeup approach,

706
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 7: like that's like your your calling card. How do you

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Speaker 7: deal with people who are on the other side that

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Speaker 7: feel like lightweight makeup isn't as substantial or doesn't show

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Speaker 7: up the best.

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Speaker 6: I like when people are complaining that things are so.

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Speaker 3: Late, it's fine, stop complaining, go use something else. It's fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's you know, like not everything works for everybody,

713
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Speaker 3: and that's okay.

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Speaker 6: You have such a simple approach to everything.

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Speaker 1: Everything is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it seems so like to get to where you

717
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Speaker 7: are and what you do, especially with product you it

718
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 7: feels so heavy when you're trying to do it, but

719
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Speaker 7: you were sitting here just like no, well first.

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Speaker 3: Of all, and also don't forget about your people around you.

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Speaker 3: Ask their opinion. Do you like this? Like that's how

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Speaker 3: I started. I had these little you know, I made

723
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Speaker 3: Miracle Balm. I didn't know it was going to be

724
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Speaker 3: this big company. It was during the pandemic. I put

725
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Speaker 3: it in little things and I sent it to all

726
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Speaker 3: my friends and they would call me up and say,

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Speaker 3: what is this? I need more? And it was during

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Speaker 3: the pandemic. They would call and say, all right, I

729
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: need more. I'm coming to your house. But they would

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Speaker 3: stand outside and I'd have to throw it from from

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Speaker 3: my you know, porch to them, and I knew I

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Speaker 3: had something. But that's how I started my market research.

733
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Speaker 3: I didn't hire a market research company. I just asked people.

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Speaker 3: And when I made my first lipstix years ago, I

735
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: would go to the park and the nannies were from

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Speaker 3: all over the world. They had all different coloring and

737
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Speaker 3: all different color lips. They would try things and I

738
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Speaker 3: would see how it looked on them. That was another

739
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Speaker 3: focus group. Mmmm, it's just common sense.

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Speaker 5: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: What do you hope readers take away from still Bobby?

742
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Speaker 3: You know, I hope it gives them encouragement to, you know,

743
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Speaker 3: to live their life their way and you know, and

744
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: and it's not as difficult as you make it. Yeah,

745
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: and just be be naive, be positive, and you know,

746
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Speaker 3: just work hard and keep at it and just be nice.

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Speaker 2: And I noticed just the first week of a book.

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Speaker 5: But now that you shared this memoir, what's next, Like,

749
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Speaker 5: what are you excited to accomplish or create moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Not even just in the beauty world, just life.

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Speaker 3: You know, I try, I try things, like I did

752
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Speaker 3: a you know, a series on YouTube that I can't

753
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Speaker 3: seem to get enough eyeballs on called I Am Me,

754
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: which I interview all these really cool women. You know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to get more eyeballs on it,

756
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: but that's fun. You know. It was sponsored by JP Morgan,

757
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: which is cool, and I'm like, all right, I'll just

758
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Speaker 3: keep trying stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I had a podcast with iHeart. It was cool. It

761
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Speaker 3: was fun, don't you know. I'm like, I don't know,

762
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Speaker 3: maybe I'll do something else. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You get eyeballs on it by going on Mail show.

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Speaker 5: You go on Mail Robins Show and you tell everybody.

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Speaker 2: You had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, all right, well that's on my list. I

767
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Speaker 3: have her and I have one other one and then

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Speaker 3: I'm good, okay, yeah, and I'm good. I wanted this

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Speaker 3: was on my list. So thank you for this. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, when I became Time one hundred this

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Speaker 3: year and ready to thank you, and they said, we're

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Speaker 3: going to reach out to someone you know, who would

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Speaker 3: you like to write this thing? And they said we

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Speaker 3: need five people, and I ranked them and number one said, yes,

775
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: it was Charlott Magne. But so I so there I

776
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: was walk in the red carpet. You know, Bobby look here, Bobby,

777
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Speaker 3: look here. People didn't say how do you feel about this?

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Speaker 3: You know what they said to me? How do you know, Charlemagne?

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Speaker 1: How did you get.

780
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: Them to do that? Really?

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Speaker 2: No, I love Bobby and I love her husband, Steven.

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Speaker 5: And the thing I like that you bring people together,

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Speaker 5: like you know that that dinner you had with all

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Speaker 5: these different people walk their life to math class and

785
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Speaker 5: just making.

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Speaker 3: Everybody like Salmon Rushty was at that dinner. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there with like Charlemagne and Salmon Rushty, you know,

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Speaker 3: and Don Garber, the Major League Soccer czar.

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Speaker 5: Because it's amazing conversation. Everybody, you know, put their phones

790
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: down and just talk. And I just think that does

791
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: so much. And bringing people together, man, And I think

792
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Speaker 5: we need those kind of safe spaces in this world

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Speaker 5: that we're in right now.

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Speaker 6: That's what You're sit down conversations are like too. All

795
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Speaker 6: those people. I'm like, I've never would have even known

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Speaker 6: who these people were.

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Speaker 3: People are interesting, by the way. I love people's stories.

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Speaker 3: And Jones Road just launched something called Beauty Stories because

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Speaker 3: I want to share people's beauty stories. You know, think

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00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: about your grandma, your mom, your aunt. Where did you

801
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: learn and what things kind of stay with you?

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Still, Bobby, A masterclass and leading and authentic life is

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00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: available everywhere you buy books right now.

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Speaker 1: That's right, so make sure you pick it up. And

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you for joining us absolutely and thank you

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: so much.

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00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: Oh my pleasure, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, hold every

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Speaker 1: day up.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. You're finish for y'all done,