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This is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. 14 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: I am Joshua the Warren, and each week on this show, 15 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, 16 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 17 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: lot more on this edition of the program, which is 18 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Wizards and Warlocks. Now, what exactly do you think those 19 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: things are? These are words that many of us often use, 20 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: but what is the real history behind those names. You know, 21 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: in the Bible, of the oldest texts, the Book of 22 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: Exodus says thou shalt not suffer a witch to live, 23 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: meaning that you're supposed to kill them, and that passage 24 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,279 Speaker 1: in particular was used in the Middle Ages to execute 25 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: untold numbers of women arbitrarily, and not just you know, 26 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: burning them at the steak. I mean, we're talking about 27 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: horrible tortures, pulling out their tongues, that kind of thing. 28 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: And yet if you go back and you look at 29 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: the original language in the Bible, the original Hebrew word 30 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: used was it wasn't which it was meca sefa mecha sefa. 31 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: But what, well, what does that word actually mean it 32 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: was written thousands of years ago. Well, it turns out 33 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: nobody really knows for sure. Um. A lot of people 34 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: thought that this could mean. You know, experts have come 35 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: in and said it could mean mutterings, which of course 36 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: might refer to incantations or something along those lines. Um. 37 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Another another expert said it maybe it means to cut, 38 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: like cutting herbs and roots for medicines. They're always just 39 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: theories and nobody really knows. But you know, I I'm 40 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: a guy who grew up in in North Carolina, Uh, 41 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: from European heritage. And so for me, you know, I 42 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: just have to go back and look at the base 43 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: definition the word origin of certain things from you know, 44 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: my linguistic background, to try to understand the most basic 45 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: traditional meaning, because you have to understand the word, which, 46 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: since we don't know exactly what originally meant, it means 47 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: many different things now in many different cultures. But let's 48 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: just start with Wikipedia here. Alright. Let's see what the 49 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: almighty Wikipedia says, are you any of course? Which refers 50 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: to witchcraft, And it says witchcraft traditionally means the use 51 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: of magic or supernatural powers to harm others, really to 52 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: harm others. It's specifically says that. And before I continued, uh, 53 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: when when I was researching this, I thought, well, let's 54 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: see what they're saying magic is. And here's what the 55 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: article says. Magic, sometimes spelled with the K, is the 56 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: application of beliefs, rituals, or actions employed in the belief 57 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: that they can manipulate natural or supernatural beings and forces. Okay, 58 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: I guess that's an alright definition. But I'm not sure 59 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: what supernatural is because isn't everything just natural? But anyway, 60 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: let's not split hairs on that. Shall be back to 61 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: what they're saying here about, which is they're saying specifically 62 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: the word which is traditionally meant to describe somebody who's 63 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: using such powers to harm others. It goes on to 64 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: say this, this practitioner A which let's see in in 65 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: medieval and early modern Europe where this term originated, uh, 66 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: was was accused. They accused, which is uh, who are 67 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: usually women who are believed to have attacked their own 68 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: community and often to have communed with evil beings. Uh. 69 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: So it's all negative stuff here. Um. And then of 70 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: course we go down here to the actual meaning of 71 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: the word, and let me just pause by saying, you know, 72 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of interesting when you talk about a, 73 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: which is somebody who's using these powers to harm someone. 74 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: But let's also consider doesn't that kind of depend on 75 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: the point of view, um, Because for example, when two 76 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: countries go to war, uh, they are harming each other, 77 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: and yet there are people on both sides who believe 78 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: they are doing the good work. They are the good guys. 79 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: But if you're going to war and the countries are 80 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: killing each other, everybody can't be the good guys. There 81 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: have to be some bad guys in here somewhere, So 82 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: you know this, who who gets to determine what what 83 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: is harmful? Right? Um? Sometimes is something's perceived as being 84 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: harmful even when it's not. You see it, This is 85 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: a murky territory. I guess let's go deeper into the 86 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: origin of that word though. Um So it says the 87 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: concept of witchcraft and the belief in its existence have 88 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: persisted throughout recorded history. It's found in many cultures, etcetera, etcetera. 89 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: But in this particular form, the Old English word comes 90 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: from wickercraft, and which, of course we all know what 91 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: what wicked is. It's spelled a little differently though, originally 92 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: in the Old English. And they say that that word 93 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: wick or wika has its English route in the words wit, 94 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: which means wisdom. And so a witch in the most 95 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: basic sense is our witchcraft is a craft of the wise. 96 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: So when you're saying somebody is a witch, traditionally you're 97 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: little literally, you're literally saying this person is a wise 98 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: person and they are practicing wisdom. And that's really interesting, 99 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: isn't it When you think of it from an etymological 100 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: point of view, because you know, going back to the Bible, Um, 101 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Lucifer was the enlightened being. You know, the the the 102 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: children of God here, Adam and Eve are supposed to 103 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: be kept ignorant in the garden of Eden, and and 104 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: knowledge was sort of forbidden. Don't do not eat from 105 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the fruit from the tree of knowledge. And it was 106 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Lucifer who came along and said, let me give you knowledge, 107 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: and and and this was the beginning of the struggle 108 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: between good and evil. And so we have to ask ourselves, uh, 109 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: to what extent knowledge is evil? And that analogy are 110 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: we talking about? That good is supposed to be naive 111 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: and obedient and and all knowledge is somehow inherently inclined 112 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: to make us egotistical and therefore evil in some way. Um. 113 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: And yet then you have these other parts of the Bible, 114 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: like when Jesus says, and ye shall know the truth, 115 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: and the truth shall set you free. So these are 116 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: just interesting things to think about. But basically, when you're 117 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: talking about a which you are really talking about what 118 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: has historically been considered a person who has some wisdom 119 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: that that she is not supposed to have and is 120 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: using that in a way to harm others, and that 121 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: was sort of how that was was always twisted. Now 122 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: we have a very different perception of all that. I 123 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: think most people do because now when you hear that 124 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: if somebody says I'm a witch or I practice wicka 125 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, you don't think they're out there casting spells 126 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: and hexs and curses on everybody all the time. You think, 127 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: maybe this is a person who just believes in a 128 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: more natural way of of tapping in to two cosmic powers. 129 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: And and that can go either way. It can be 130 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: used for both positive or negative purposes, right that, which 131 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: is why you have like the good witch and the 132 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: bad witch. Which is really interesting because if I were 133 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: to ask you, what do you think the male equal 134 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: of a witches? I bet in any of you would 135 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: say a warlock if the female. And I know that 136 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: talking about gender these days is it can get into 137 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: some complicated side discussions, but I'm talking about historically here, 138 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: it was always written a female was was a witch 139 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: if she was dabbling and practicing these things to harm others. 140 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: And then but actually the male counterpart is not exactly 141 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: a warlock. It is a wizard. And I'm going to 142 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: get more into what that means here shortly. But here's 143 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: the thing about a wizard. A wizard is basically just 144 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: like a witch, except the wizard as a man. I 145 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: think that's about the only difference. And that comes from 146 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: that word wizard. It comes from this old English word, 147 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: which is a It means a wise ard or a 148 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: philosopher's stage. So again we're talking about wisdom. This is 149 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: the root of of this. So these are supposed to 150 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: be people who have a level of knowledge and level 151 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: of wisdom, but they are using it for some kind 152 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: of a bad purpose. Okay, So in that case, well, 153 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: what is a warlock supposed to be? 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I am Joshua Pear and you 177 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: are listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 178 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast Imparanormal podcast Network, and I will 179 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on the 180 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast SAM there a 181 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: normal podcast network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, 182 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my 183 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day 184 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: is golden and every night is silver. So what is 185 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: a warlock? A which is somebody practicing magic that traditionally 186 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: was doing it for harmful purposes. According to those who 187 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: wrote the definitions, a female doing that. A wizard would 188 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: be the male counterpart. So what's a warlock? Well, warlock 189 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: comes from the Old English word war laga, which meant 190 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: a breaker of oaths or a deceiver. And this, uh 191 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: was given a special connection to the devil because if 192 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: you think about it, um, the ultimate sin I suppose 193 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: is betrayal. Lucifer betrayed God, and then Judas betrayed Jesus. 194 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: And so it's one thing when you have a wizard 195 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: out there who might be a bad guy working some magic. 196 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: But if that wizard is a betrayer, okay, if this 197 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: is if this is an individual that is is breaking oaths. Uh, 198 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: this this trader, maybe somebody who comes in pretending to 199 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: be your buddy while he's actually getting you know, uh 200 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: insight to stab you in the back. Well, this is 201 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: the worst kind, the most offensive form. This is the warlock. 202 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: All right, So a warlock is actually a type of wizard. 203 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: But uh, this is like the worst type of wizard 204 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: because he is so devilish. He's he will deceive you 205 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: and do whatever you can and in those terms. And 206 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: so therefore, okay, let's let's step back and look at this. 207 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: It kind of seems like that, um, you have two 208 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: forms of which nowadays, which is the good witch and 209 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: the bad witch. And then we have two forms of wizard, 210 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: which is the wizard and the warlock. And I and honestly, 211 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: I think that, um, that those names, uh, to some 212 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: degree are very um well, let me let me put 213 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: it this way. I think that one reason that wizard 214 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: and which has a more positive connotation nowadays is because 215 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: of movies like The Wizard of Oz, where the wizard 216 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: is portrayed as this kind of bumbling good guy. And then, uh, 217 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: then then of course you have, yes, you've got the 218 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: wicked witch, but then you also have the good witch, 219 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: you see. And so what's funny to me about this 220 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: whole situation is that historically speaking, the the early Christians 221 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: were persecuting so called witches, they were also practicing a 222 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: form of magic. Because there is no more supernatural book 223 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: than the Bible. The Bible is full of people interacting 224 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: with the spirit world, uh, with trying to manifest things 225 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: by praying, uh, with producing miracles, raising the dead. It's 226 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing is super paranormal and magical. And so 227 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: back then, uh, it's almost like that. The only difference 228 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: between the Christians and and they're kind of miraculous magical 229 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: mindset versus the witches was that the Christians said, well, 230 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: the witches, they're doing this for bad purposes. So this 231 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: is just like Star Wars, isn't it. Where you know, 232 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: in Star Wars um you've got this thing called the Force, 233 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: and you can master it, but you can do it 234 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: for the good side or the dark side, all right, 235 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: and when you when you go to the dark side, 236 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: well you know you're you, you will become one of 237 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: the Sith. And if you stay on the positive side 238 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: while you're a Jedi. So if you think about it, 239 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: like in terms of just like the warlock thing, you 240 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: could say, okay, if a warlock is a bad wizard, 241 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: that means Yoda and Darth Vader are both wizards, but 242 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: Vader is a warlock because he turned to the dark side. 243 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: And the witch thing would be similar, except instead of 244 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: Jedi and Sith, you have now, oh, the good witch 245 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: and the bad witch. Um. And so it's just interesting 246 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: when you sort of think about how the perspective on 247 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: those things have changed over time. You know, I call 248 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: myself the Wizard of Weird, and uh, I don't think 249 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: people the look at that and say this guy is 250 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: in league with the devil. Um, Because again we we 251 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: have we've applied different meaning to that stuff. But it's 252 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: just interesting to go back and think about what it 253 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: originally meant and how that What this shift in thinking 254 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: has has shown us is that we are actually a 255 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: much more magically oriented, open minded culture than ever before. 256 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: Uh in the sense that, um, yes, we still are 257 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: fighting like crazy all over the world. I mean not 258 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: not nearly as bad as we were a thousand years 259 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: ago or even a few hundred years ago, but still, 260 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean we we are able to sort of accept 261 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: that we are all manifesting things in our own different way. 262 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: Everybody is. Unless you are an absolute atheist who is 263 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: a strict materialist. Uh, then you probably are some form 264 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: of a magician. Okay, it doesn't mean you're a good magician. Um. 265 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: But because and you can be such a sloppy magician, 266 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: you're actually sabotaging yourself because you're producing bad things for yourself. 267 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: And life and uh, and we all do that sometimes 268 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: and we all know that, hey, this life to a 269 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: certain extent does not have a happy ending because we 270 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: all have to die and leave some people behind. And 271 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: that's sad. It's just gonna be sad. Sorry, but you 272 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: know that. In the meantime, however, um, we are all 273 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: trying to manifest things, and so uh, it's good for 274 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: us to be open minded. And this is all a 275 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: matter of perspective, like everything else. Is this person good 276 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: as this person bad? You have to make up your 277 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: mind on a case per case basis. But I think 278 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: it's pretty a pretty good achievement that we live in 279 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: a world now where somebody can come out, at least 280 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: in this country, and that's not the case everywhere, but 281 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: here in the USA, a person can say I practice 282 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: wika or I'm a witch or I'm a wizard or whatever, 283 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be tortured for it or 284 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: you know, or murdered for it. So now you you 285 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: can think a little more deeply about where all that 286 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: comes from and what we mean when we say it. 287 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: And while while I'm talking about some fairly morbid things, 288 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: I may as well bring this up because I think 289 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: this is just interesting. Like I say, if you want 290 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: to understand more about why we live the way we live, 291 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: you have to think about why we speak the way 292 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: we speak, and what clues are hidden within our language. 293 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: And I was talking to Lauren the other day and somehow, 294 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned something about somebody dying and I said, 295 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, they kicked the bucket. And Lauren said, I 296 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: wonder where that comes from, that phrase kicked the bucket. 297 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: And I said, I'm not really sure. So I looked 298 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: into it and here's what I found. Now, thank you, 299 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: I want you to think about this for a second. 300 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: Why would you say that someone who has died has 301 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: kicked the bucket? So when I looked this up, what 302 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: I found is, once again, nobody knows for sure. This 303 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: is a phrase that has been you for hundreds of years. 304 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Um and there are there are a number of possible explanations, 305 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: but here are the two most popular ones. Apparently, uh 306 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: it back in the day, but especially when people didn't have, 307 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: you know, easy access to guns and various other pills 308 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: and stuff like that that we we have today. If 309 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: if somebody decided to kill him him or herself, it 310 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: was pretty common to hang yourself. And so a lot 311 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: of people would stand on a bucket when they were 312 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: tying up the noose because it was lightweight, easy to 313 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: kick over, you know, just tall enough. So they would 314 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: stand up there and they tie their noose. I know, 315 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: this is an awful thought, but and then they kicked 316 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: that bucket, and you know, you'd find a dead person 317 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: hanging there with a bucket kicked over next to him. Um. 318 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: That's one of the popular explanations. Here is another one, uh, 319 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: and this claims that uh and again this is you know, sorry, 320 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: this one of those awful things. But they say that, 321 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: uh uh, that a bucket was a beam from which 322 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: a pig was hung by its feet prior to being slaughtered, 323 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: and that when they slaughtered it, then in the pigs 324 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: death throws, it would start kicking the but the beam 325 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: called the bucket. So I don't know which one of 326 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: those it is, but um, I guess they both kind 327 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: of makes sense to me. Um. Shall we move on 328 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: to something a little more a little more positive? How 329 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: about this? Uh? You know I I always am talking 330 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: about how fascinated I am by liquid mercury. Right, and actually, 331 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: if you have not listened yet to episode seventy two 332 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: of this program and which I tell one of the 333 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: weirdest stories that I've ever heard, and that's saying a lot. 334 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: You should go back and listen to it, and it's 335 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: a good overview of why the liquid mercury is so special. 336 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: And I got this uh message from my buddy Dean 337 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Worsening the other day and it's a link to an 338 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: article here UH by Duncan Cook of the Australian Catholic University, 339 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: and the headline here are the topic titlets is heavy 340 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: mercury contamination at Maya sites reveals a deep historic legacy. 341 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: And this is great because I was one of the 342 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: first people, oh well over a decade a decade ago, 343 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: talking about how remarkable it is that liquid mercury has 344 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: found at some of these sites. And when we come back, 345 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you more about the questions that are 346 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: still unanswered about the significance of liquid mercury to ancient 347 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: cultures and how that may even be applied to what's 348 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: happening with the UFO phenomenon. And then I want to 349 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: play a really interesting and wonderful piece of music for you, 350 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: And then I want to get into a really bizarre 351 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: Dreams story. Oh, there's just too much to talk about. 352 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua pe Warren and you are listening to Strange 353 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. 354 00:25:23,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: I am Parinormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Hey, 355 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: welcome back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 356 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network. I 357 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: am your host, Joshua pe Warren, and this is the 358 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: show where the unusual becomes usual. You know, a lady 359 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: in South Carolina just subscribed to my monthly coffee three pack. 360 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: She wrote, quote, it's the best coffee ever end quote. 361 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I didn't ask her to write that, So that means 362 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: every month she is now going to get fresh bags 363 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: in her mill. Of all three coffees the Flagship, Close 364 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: Encounter Coffee, the Band she Brew, the Bigfooter or Brew. 365 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: If you're interested in trying one of those out, just 366 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: go too Close Encounter Coffees dot Com, Close Encounter Coffees 367 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: dot Com and uh okay, let's get back to liquid mercury. 368 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: Huh um. This is a fascinating topic for a number 369 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: of reasons, but what they're saying here in this article 370 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: mercury is a toxic heavy metal and this is let's 371 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: see Australia Science, the austral Australasian. Okay, that's an interesting word, 372 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: Australasian science dot com dot au. I've never been to Australia. 373 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about the word Australasian. I guess it 374 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: has some meaning I don't know about. But anyway, says 375 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: mercury is a toxic heavy metal and when leached into 376 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the natural environment, it accumulates and builds up through food chains, 377 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: ultimately threatening human health and ecosystems. In the last century, 378 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: human activities have increased atmospheric mercury concentrations by three hundred 379 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: to five hundred percent above the natural levels. However, in 380 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: some parts of the world humans have been modifying the 381 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: mercury cycle for thousands of years. The human caused mercury 382 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: use has led to mercury entering places globally it would 383 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: not otherwise be found, such as in lakes or soils 384 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: in remote locations. One region with an especially long but 385 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: poorly documented history of mercury use is in Mexico and 386 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: Central America. Early meso American societies such as the Olmec 387 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: had been mining and using mercury in southern Mexico as 388 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: early as two thousand BC E. So this article goes 389 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: on to talk about how strange it is that a 390 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of these ancient people in that area, we're obsessed 391 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: with mercury to an extent that I mean, they're to 392 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: the extent that you would find samples of it in 393 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: the middle of some of their most sacred spots, for example, 394 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: the court at lamon I, and that I actually went 395 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: to lauman I in person and and learned about that. 396 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: And they talk about lamon I here in this article. 397 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: It's the oldest of the ancient ruins, as I think, 398 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: it's like the most remote. That's what they said. It's 399 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: been a while since I've been there. That's in Belize. 400 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: But they in this article by saying there are so 401 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: many questions. There's the question of, uh, let's see where 402 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: and how did the Maya obtain mercury, who exactly minded 403 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: traded it and transported it by foot over hundreds of 404 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: kilometers across present day Central America. There's the question of 405 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: whether the Maya were affected by mercury exposure. The next 406 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: step will be for geochemists and archaeologists to track down 407 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: the source of mercury key sites and scrutinized. We also 408 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: need to find out what forms mercury takes in the 409 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: environment today. So anyway, once again this is intriguing to 410 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: me because these places where liquid mercury was found, where 411 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: places uh where a lot of ancient UFO activity was 412 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: occurring and pyramids are found, and this is where cucko 413 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: Con showed up. And that's you know, I wrote all 414 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: about this in my book The Secret Wisdom of couco Con. 415 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: You can get an e book version of that through 416 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: my Curiosity Shop on my website. And of course then 417 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: you start looking deeper and you see that liquid mercury 418 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: was also of great held in great positions of prestige 419 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: and many ancient cultures around the world, in China and India, 420 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: and they talked about it in the Vedic texts, and 421 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: then the Nazis we're working with liquid mercury. And then 422 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: now we have this mysterious story about something that's being 423 00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: done with mercury here in Nevada around area fifty one. Again, 424 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: you gotta go back if you want to know more 425 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: about what I'm talking about here and listen to episode 426 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: seventy two. But I just thought that was interesting that 427 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: now people are starting to look more deeply into this. Uh. 428 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you go, like I say, to my 429 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: website and you find my Curiosity Shop, um, one thing 430 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: that may stand out in your mind is that you'll 431 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: find things there that you will not find anywhere else 432 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: in the world. Uh. These are absolutely, in many cases 433 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: unique things, things that I invent based upon my experiments, 434 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: or things that I have exclusive access to. And I've 435 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: told you on this podcast that there is a wonderful 436 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: composer who lives here in the US named Jim Kalana. 437 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: And uh, I know he lived in Pennsylvania at some point. 438 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's still there, but uh, he 439 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: was so impressed with my Curiosity Shop and my book 440 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: used the Force, a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction, 441 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: and the Wishing Machine and all this stuff that this 442 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: professional composer actually created this real piece of classical music. 443 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: It's called Joshua's Shop of Miracles and Curiosities. And to 444 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: my utter amazement, he had this performed earlier this year 445 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: near Washington, d C. I think it was an Alexandria 446 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: Virginia um By a uh like in a big theater 447 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: by a big youth orchestra, And I mean I was 448 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: just blown away when he told me he was going 449 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: to do this. He sent me uh an actual copy 450 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: of the work and the program, and he said that 451 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: it was totally fine for me to play some of 452 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: this for you on this show. And I don't usually 453 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: play music on this podcast. This is, after all, I 454 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: talk podcast, but I think I can make an exception. 455 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: So I'm going to play just ninety seconds for you 456 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: of this wonderful piece of music that Jim Kalana was 457 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: inspired to write by enjoying the mysterious and exotic and 458 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: enigmatic things that I like to work on. So here 459 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: we have ninety seconds of Joshua's Shop of Miracles and 460 00:33:25,760 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: Curiosities by Jim Kalanna. All right, now, tell me could 461 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: there be a Could there be a bigger honor than that? 462 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: I mean, how fantastic is it to have a man 463 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: of that talent contact you and say, all right, Uh, 464 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: I was so inspired by the stuff that you're doing 465 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: and it's changed my life. And I want to produce 466 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: this magnificent piece of music and involve all these people 467 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: in performing it. And you know, I wish I could 468 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: have been there for that performance, but I was already 469 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: had I was committed to another event. But my friend 470 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: c Eric Scott was there and he loved it. And 471 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: don't you think that Jim Kalanna should be scoring movies? 472 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, keep your eye on him. And if 473 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: you want to hear the whole thing for free, go 474 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: to his website Jim Kalana dot com. That's spelled j 475 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: I M c O l O n n A. Again, 476 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: that's Jim c O l O n n A Jim 477 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: Kalana dot com and you can listen to all kinds 478 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: of samples of his music. But at the top there, uh, 479 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: there's a section that says music for orchestra. And right now, 480 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: if you go there, you can listen to the entire 481 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Joshua's Shop of Miracles and Curiosities. I'm expecting Disney to 482 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: call me at some point now or or some similar 483 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: establishment and say, Okay, if you're so special that this 484 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: guy wrote that music, we need to put some visuals 485 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: with this. What's going on here? Wizard? Uh? So, thank 486 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: you again, Jim. Uh, it's just you know, uh, it's 487 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: I I can't put into words how wonderful that is. 488 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: When we come back from this break, I am going 489 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: to tell you about an amazing dream experience that I 490 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: just had and and how it is timed out with 491 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: these messages I've been getting from other people. I'll read 492 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: an email to you, but first I want to remind 493 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: you real quick that tis the season. If you're into 494 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: ghost tours, I hope that if you're in the Asheville, 495 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: North Carolina area, you'll take my Haunted Asheville Ghost Tour. 496 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: Just go to Haunted Asheville dot com. If you're around 497 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, I hope you'll go to Boulder City and 498 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: take my ghost tour there. It's called Haunted Boulder City 499 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: dot com. And we if you if you're like not 500 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: in the walking tours, but you just want to see 501 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: a really cool show. I have the Vegas Ghost and 502 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: UFO show, which is sixty minutes at this place called 503 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: Beer Zombies. You gotta go read all about it. You 504 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: sit there and you have a blast for sixty minutes. 505 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: Paranormal Vegas dot com. Paranormal Vegas dot com. I'm Joshua P. Warren, 506 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: and you are listening to strange things on the I 507 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: Heart radio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network, 508 00:37:49,280 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: and I'll be right back and welcome back to the 509 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the 510 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M para 511 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: normal podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. 512 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: And a pretty interesting phenomenon occurred when I posted episode 513 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: nine seven of this podcast about dreams and and you 514 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: know where do you go when you dream? That kind 515 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: of thing? A lot of people started emailing me saying 516 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: that when listening to that podcast, the person would enter 517 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: some kind of a dream like state just by listening 518 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: to me talk about the subject matter. Here's just one 519 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: of those emails from Jake. He says, I am thirty 520 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: nine years old in the episode where you were talking 521 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: about dreams where you float and abduction of the spirit, 522 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: and when I listened to this, I felt light as 523 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: if I was floating, and this was the only time 524 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: I had ever had a moment if I couldn't tell 525 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: if it was real or a dream. M hmm. Well, 526 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: thank you, Jake, And again I could reach you other examples, 527 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: but well, what is this about? When you know, here 528 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: I am talking about this and dudly it's starting to 529 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: put listeners into an altered state of mind. I had 530 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: um and and look, and by the way, I don't 531 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: really know how to explain that other than when you 532 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: start thinking about it, your your brain um starts to 533 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: question the moment and whether or not you might be 534 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: asleep and you don't know it, because that's sort of 535 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: the conundrum there. But it's so weird that I got 536 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: that message from from him and all these people. And 537 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: then here's what happened to me last night. Okay, I 538 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: swear this happened to me last night. Of course, September 539 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: two is always going to go down in history as 540 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: is a terrible year for hurricanes because of what happened 541 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: to the poor people in Puerto Rico and Florida, and 542 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, going all the way up that the East 543 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: coast there through through of course Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina. 544 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: But I I talked to you on a previous show 545 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: about my friend da who was basically, you know, my 546 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: best friend. When Lauren and I were in Puerto Rico, 547 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: when we were living there, she helped us out tremendously 548 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: and she and I were always going on wild adventures 549 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: like road trips, to investigate paranormal stuff, and um, she 550 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: was just a very fun, vibrant spirit. And she got 551 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: pancreatic cancer, and uh, she was doing everything she could, 552 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, she wanted to live. She was sixty nine 553 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: and she died the same weekend that the hurricane hit 554 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, and so it was just a really awful, negative, 555 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: depressing thing to to think about. But I did get 556 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: my opportunity to say my goodbyes to her, and you know, 557 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: we had we had that kind of closure. But we'll listen. 558 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: Last night, for the first time since she died, I 559 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: had this huge dream about her. And in the dream, Uh, 560 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know that she was dead, and I was 561 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: back in Puerto Rico and it was the two of us. 562 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: And she used to always talk about how much she 563 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: loved our adventures. That was what she would call them, 564 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 1: our adventures. And she and I were just like raised 565 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: in all heck, driving around the island, and like, we 566 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: went into this bar and there were a bunch of 567 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: jerks in there, so we like intentionally started a bar 568 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: fight and and then you know, after we got the 569 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: better of him, this big group of guys were chasing 570 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: us and we ran out and jumped in the car, 571 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: were like laughing, and we pelled out and and we're 572 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: just like going and investigating all kinds of weird stuff 573 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: and just having a blast, you know, eating all kinds 574 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: of exotic new foods. And uh So I woke up 575 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: and it took me a second to remember that she 576 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: was dead. And maybe you've had that experience with if 577 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: you have a loved one who has died. But I thought, well, 578 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: I believe maybe that was Ida coming back. You know, 579 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: there's been enough space here for her to get readjusted 580 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: to this new world she's in. Maybe that was her 581 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: coming back and and finding me in the spirit world 582 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: and having another adventure. Right, That's what I thought. So anyway, 583 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: I got up, went through my morning routine, I sat 584 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 1: down and started checking my messages, and out of the blue, 585 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: I had this message from a national reporter from BuzzFeed News. 586 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: And this reporter said that she was doing a story 587 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: about people who were having medical emergencies and stuff in 588 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico when the hurricane hit and took out facilities 589 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: and how that has affected the care of those people. 590 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: And she said that she had come across one of 591 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: my postings in social media where I had said, I 592 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: had this friend named Margarita, and she was wonderful, we 593 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: all loved her, and she was dying of cancer right 594 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: as the hurricane hit. And this reporter said she had 595 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: seen that and she wanted to talk to me more 596 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: about that, or at least, you know, like see if 597 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: there was somebody that I could refer her to that 598 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: would help her with the story. And I was flabbergasted 599 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: that this national reporter had contacted me to ask me 600 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: about that. Um, while I was dreaming about Ida for 601 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: the very first time since her death and having exactly 602 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: the kind of dream that she would want me to 603 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: to have about her. You know, it was just like, 604 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: this is not a coincidence. So I obviously I told 605 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: the reporter like, yes, you know, feel free to contact 606 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: me at this email address and we'll talk more. I can, 607 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: you know, help her and however way I can. But 608 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: I mean, like this is just another example. I haven't 609 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: told anybody about this yet. I haven't even told my 610 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: wife about this. She'll hear it first on this podcast. 611 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: I thought that that she would think that was cool 612 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: to hear it first on the podcast. UM, But that 613 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: kind of stuff which happens to me over and over 614 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: and over proves to me that when you dream, you 615 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: are in a very very special state of mind, and 616 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: your spirit is removed from your body, and dead loved 617 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: ones can communicate with you, and they can guide you, 618 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: and they can lead you in a direction. And obviously 619 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: DA wants me to talk to this woman and there's 620 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: something there that needs to be said. So I'm going 621 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: to do that. Okay, Uh, next email. UM, I recently 622 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: did a show about how anti gravity built the Pyramids. 623 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: Of course, I was talking about Nick Redfern's book, and 624 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: I got contacted by this gentleman who listens to the 625 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: show a lot. He's in Greece. His name is Stavros, 626 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: and he said he thinks the blocks were made in 627 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: situ in the form of artificial cement. Okay, so like 628 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: there's this big mystery about like how are these huge 629 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: blocks moved around? And he's saying, oh, no, they weren't moved. 630 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: They made them there. And he said the ancient cultures 631 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: were aware of this technology. Human hair has been found 632 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: within the matrix of a block, and then he gives 633 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: some other thoughts on that, um, and he says, your 634 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: friend from Greece stuff Ross interesting. I mean, that is 635 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: something else to think about, isn't it. Could that be 636 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: an explanation? Uh? And you know what, let me go ahead. 637 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 1: And he sent me another uh email that I think 638 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: is worth reading because, um, he he was talking about 639 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: like this struggle that's going on in the world of 640 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: a kind of a spiritual nature right now, and he says, 641 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 1: we are dealing with a highly complex phenomenon on which 642 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: is manifested through Earth's time, not only with abductions, but 643 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: with communications and possessions. The systems of religions faces them, 644 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: not scientifically, of course, but sometimes successfully, and sometimes specific 645 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: ancient Greek like the orphic hymn to Apollon or Athena 646 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: or specific Latin texts seem to influence these beings. Um, 647 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people right now who are 648 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 1: talking about the idea that there is a spiritual battle happening. 649 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: And thank you against a rush, you always have insightful 650 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: things to say, Um, that there's a spiritual battle happening 651 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: right now on this planet. And you know what, I 652 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: believe it. My gut tells me that that's true. I well, 653 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: you know, there's always been a spiritual battle, hasn't there? 654 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that the point? But it's I think 655 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: it's coming to a head right now because some of 656 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 1: the well, we're we're a global world. We can all 657 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: talk to each other everywhere now and that changes things 658 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: and that takes that's what takes it to a new level. 659 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: Before it was localized, and now we are living in 660 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: this worldwide system of communication and we're exposed to everything. 661 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: And so now the spiritual battle is really about to 662 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: come to to some kind of a head. And you 663 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: have to just think about you know, where you want 664 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: to be in there, and what side is right for 665 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: you and what seems logical to you. You know, it's 666 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: not gonna do any good to preach at you. I mean, 667 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: you just have to you. I guess you either get 668 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: it or you don't. And I hope that you will 669 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 1: ask the universe to help you with that if you're 670 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: having a problem. But here's what we're gonna We're all 671 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,959 Speaker 1: gonna do right now. 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