1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Charchian. 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to our first in a series of draft rookie 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: related Fantasy Football Weekly episodes. I'm Paul Charchian. Very pleased 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: to be joined by Thorne Eystrom. It's great to have 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: you back. 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: It's good to be here. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 4: The combines going on even as we speak, we have 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 4: the whole thing going on. So it's a great time 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 4: of the year, one of the best times of the year. 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 4: Love draft season. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best. 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: And you know, we obviously you've been on the show 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: for a long time, but we didn't have you at 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: this time last year, so we didn't have you breaking 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: down players for us, but now we do. 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: Well. I was happy I could get my pook in 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: Na Koua. 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you got it out there. 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we end. But yeah, I'm excited to talk 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: through it the entire process. 25 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: Like you know, especially guys that draft early on, you know, 26 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: some of the underdogs and the best of all. 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: People, you can get ridiculous values. 28 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you draft those those things before the NFL 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: draft actually happens and we find the values here. 30 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: The guys we're going to talk about now are gonna 32 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: be some of the bigger names in this show. The 33 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: premise of what we're gonna do with you thora is 34 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: this today's show, We're just gonna do first blush observations 35 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: about your favorite five guys at quarterback, running back, wide receiver, 36 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: tight end. So and this is in part for me 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: because like a lot of our listeners, you know, we're 38 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: all focused on the NFL for most of the season 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: and super Bowl gets over catch your breath for two 40 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: weeks and now here we are today, and so I need, 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I still need like basic overview for a lot of 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: these guys. Then in the coming weeks, we're gonna drill 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: down with you on each position and do deep dives 44 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: on players and go deeper into every position. Love it, Aye, way, 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm super excited. Okay, So we're gonna hit twenty guys today. 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: Twenty Let's begin at the quarterback position, and the player 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: presumed to go first overall, but not necessarily. Let's start 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams. 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Caleb Williams, the upside the ceiling that people talk about, 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: that's absolutely real. The high end flashes that he's shown 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: are about as good as you'll see for a prospect 52 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: coming out. I do think there's a little bit higher 53 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: of a risk in that profile that maybe has been discussed. 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: I'll just start with the gud. I mean, elite athlete 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: at that size, elite arm and elite improvisational ability. He'll 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: run around, buy his time in the pocket, and then 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: he'll see a dude way downfield who's broken off his route. 58 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: He can hit him on the hands, he can get 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: the ball out immediately from any angle, throw across his body, 60 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: get it on the outside of the other hash, different 61 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: stuff like that. 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: That's all the good stuff. 63 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: Five Star guy had plenty of pedigree hand pick by 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley. Lincoln Riley kicked out of the other five 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: star that he had in their Spencer rally. Yeah, so 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: he could start Caleb. 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: Williams' career there. And then obviously Caleb went with him 68 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: to us. See. 69 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: The two things I'm concerned about ones off the field. 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: One is on the field. The offfield one. It's not 71 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: that he's a bad kid or anything. It's just there's 72 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: weird vibes around there. His dad has asked for like 73 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: weird stuff, like looking into the NFLPA agreement, see if 74 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: they can get out of a rookie deal. Can we 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 4: get some steak in a team. It's weird. 76 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's it's bad or it's going 77 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 3: to pour tend disaster here. 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: It's just a weird vibe. Like Caleb Williams doesn't have 79 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: an agent. They're like, we don't need one because it's 80 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: fixed salary, different stuff. 81 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Like that, which is not inaccurate when you're gonna go 82 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: in the first I don't. 83 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Fix to the draft. 84 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: And he has a different company that does his marketing, 85 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: so the advertising stuff like he's already fine with. And 86 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: then the one thing on the field that is just 87 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: a little bit concerning. And I don't think this is 88 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: a nippick. I think it's an actual concern. He takes 89 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: a lot of time to throw the ball. Now this 90 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: is by choice, you know, but it's also endemic to 91 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: his game, like he wants to be back in the 92 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: pocket by time a lot of it and then give 93 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: his receiver time to break off the routes. 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: But he's in terms of the. 95 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: Time to pass the last two seasons was near the 96 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: top of the class, well over three seconds. 97 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: He needs to get the ball a quicker in the NFL. 98 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jade and Daniels. There's some steams starting 99 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: to emerge that Daniels could pass by Caleb Williams potentially 100 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: go to the first in the first and I think 101 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: from a fantasy standpoint, Jayden Daniels is gonna be the 102 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: first player taken because of the running. 103 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jade Daniels. The floor certainly is higher 104 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 4: than Caleb Williams is because I don't see how he busts. 105 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 4: He does two things that at an elite level that 106 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 4: will translate to the NFL. The deep ball number one 107 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: has one of the best deep balls that we've seen 108 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: in the last ten years come in the NFL. In 109 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: conjunction with his ability to steal yards. 110 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: As a runner. 111 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, those two, it makes them so hard to defend, 112 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 4: like you're gonna keep you know, a linebacker spy up. 113 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: If you do that, you can't have the second safety deep. 114 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 4: It becomes a spacing problem for the defense. 115 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: Whatever. 116 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: So those are the things you like about him. The 117 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: ceiling maybe not quite as high as Caleb, but he 118 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: does have a higher flare. 119 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Well, fantasy ceiling could be higher. If he's for sure, 120 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: he is definitely gonna run more. Yeah, I mean last 121 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: year ran for over a thousand years. I don't know 122 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: if he passes Caleb. I ambullish on the idea that 123 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: he passed Drake May, though, in what people see as 124 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: the board to go in that number two slot. If 125 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: he doesn't go number one, I think he's a better 126 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: fit for what Cliff Kingsbury looks for in a quarterback, 127 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: going back fifteen to twenty years of his career. I 128 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: looked at the last nine quarterbacks that Cliff has worked with. 129 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Six of the nine were guys that won outside of 130 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: structure as much as they want inside of structure. That 131 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: it's not a Drake May trait. Jade Daniels fits out 132 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: a lot more. Drake May is the next quarterback. I 133 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: do want to talk about much more of your traditional 134 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: pocket passer, a little bit of mobility, but that's not 135 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: his game, right, I don't want to. You know, the 136 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: comparable feels like young Kirk Cousins almost, you know, who 137 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: actually had you know, a little mobility in the first 138 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: first part of his half of his career. 139 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 140 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: I think there's there's parts of his game that have 141 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 4: been correctly forwarded and and and things to get excited about. 142 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: That's the the stuff at you know, big strapping pocket 143 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: passer with an enormous arm, like he is a sniper 144 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: downfield and he has all the arm he needs for 145 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: every single throw, you know, like I said, including consistently 146 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 4: threading threatening vertical. The one thing that I think has 147 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: been overblown about him, it's it's the thing about like 148 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: the athleticism and running like he gets camped to like 149 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: Josh Allen for instance, or even Justin Herbert. I don't 150 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: think he is yet. He's not even close to the 151 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: athlete certainly of Josh A. Not as good of a 152 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: runner as either of them. I don't think his arm 153 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: is quite as good as Justin Herbert's either, So I 154 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: think these are sort of like apocryp full comps for him. 155 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: I hope people don't get upset with this. 156 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: But my comp for him is Carson Pence, which is 157 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: a combination of Carson Palmer and Carson Wentz. I you know, 158 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: it's it's not that he Carson Wentz, but I think 159 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 4: the pocket game is way better. That's why you know, 160 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: you put Palmer in there. But I think he's more 161 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: of a stand in the pocket type guy in the 162 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: NFL now gonna win with the running, that part of 163 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: his game is not going to translate. Sam Howell came, 164 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: you know, came out of the unc offense. He ran 165 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: a ton, but that didn't translate. 166 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: And then the although I still contend it could translate, 167 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: they just didn't let him. 168 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: Could it gone last year? Yeah, But like Drake May, 169 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: I definitely don't think it is. And and the one 170 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: other part of the game that I think is overblown 171 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: is outside of the pocket off script stuff, he's not 172 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: as good with that kind of stuff. 173 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: That then I think he gets credit for. 174 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: Let's go to a player that you've been banging the 175 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: drum on relentlessly, Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy. You know, there's 176 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: there's steam that has him going as as high as 177 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, the lottery of this year's draft into the 178 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: top ten. Then there's you know, there are other play players, 179 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: are other people that have him going in the middle 180 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: of the second round. So you know, we've seen a 181 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: huge divergence of thoughts on JJ McCarthy. Tell us a 182 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: little bit about his game. 183 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a big fan of JJ McCarthy. I think 184 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: he's a really good athlete. He did not test athletically 185 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: at the Combine. I think he's going to do that 186 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: at his pro day when he does. I think he 187 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: runs in the four or five and that's a really 188 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: important aspect of his game. He steals yards, but the 189 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: more rare trait of his game is getting outside the 190 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: pocket throwing on the run. Absolutely does not need his platform, 191 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: and he makes really good decisions when he's on the move. 192 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: It's just a super rare trade where you know, there's 193 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: not many guys that came out the last decade that 194 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: you can point to to do that stuff with the 195 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: consistency that he does. People talk about his volume stats, 196 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: but when you look at the per pass stuff and 197 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: when we look at the high leverage stuff, that's where 198 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: he flips from being on the bottom end of some 199 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: of those guys that we've tossed out to being one 200 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: of the best. He was seventy fourth percentile in seven 201 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: of the categories that PFF looks at to define quarterback 202 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 4: play standard drop back percentile adder beyond the six percentile, 203 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: avoids negative places percent under pressure percentile outside the pocket 204 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: percent ole, third and four down percentile, and positively graded 205 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 4: throw percentile seventy second percent I'm sorry, seventy second percentile 206 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: or above. No other quarterback in that top five or 207 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: even in the class was above fifty two percent in 208 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: every one of those. 209 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Michael Pennix, who I think 210 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, everybody assumed would have been just a lock 211 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: first rounder. The disastrous National championship game took a ton 212 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: of the luster off, and now we're looking at somebody 213 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: who may end up falling to the middle of the 214 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: second round potentially definitely. 215 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And a lot of that stuff with him is 216 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: going to be informed by how the medical news that 217 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: we get about him coming out of Indianapolis. A guy 218 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: who was first four years when he played in Indiana 219 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: had a season ending injury and every single one of 220 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: them too or to his lower body, to his knee, 221 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: and we'll see what they say about that. He was 222 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: able to stay healthy last two years of Washington, So 223 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: that was a good part of that. The on field stuff, 224 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: I love him when he's in the pocket and he 225 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: doesn't have to move off his spot. You know, he's 226 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: like a sniper who needs that gun on the you 227 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: know whatever and not moving whatever. When he starts moving, though, 228 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: the accuracy falls off a shelf. So when you can 229 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: pressure him quickly different stuff like that, he starts making 230 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: poor decisions. And like I said, the accuracy does not 231 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: carry with him when he's on the move. 232 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the running back position. Thor 233 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: as we're zipping through your maybe I don't know if 234 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: this is necessarily your top five because I don't think 235 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: you've really ranked everybody yet. As we're recording right now, 236 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: the combines in process, so sort of yeah, rafter, I like, 237 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: do we put that right? Everybody's got the right to 238 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: change their mind in early May, when we're almost two 239 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: months away from the draft. Right, let's go to the 240 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: running back position. Let's start with one of the fastest 241 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: guys in this draft at any position, Tennessee running back 242 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Right. 243 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jalen Right, freak of an athlete, was on the 244 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: Bruce Feldman free clist. The reports that we've gotten about, 245 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: so we know that he's he's a confirmed twenty three 246 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: point six miles per hour on which is insane. It's 247 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: crazy speed. You're you're talking literally world class speed. And 248 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: this is Bruce Feldman that reported this forty four inch 249 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: vertical confirmed in the past ten eight broad jump. Bruce 250 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: Feldman also reported that in high school Jalen Wright ran 251 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: a handtime four to eight forty. Now that's Olympic speed. 252 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 4: It's stupid and the kids not small either. This is 253 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: not an air scatback. He has sides with him too. 254 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 4: We'll see at the combine what he ends up playing 255 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: in at but probably to twelve ish, I would expect 256 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: somewhere around there. He showed a lot of different stuff 257 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: at Tennessee. He was in this three man rotation, but 258 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: this past season he moved to the top of it. 259 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: He started getting the work. 260 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: He's showing some receiving shop, but specifically his elite trait 261 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: is hitting that accelerator when he has that line to 262 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: the goal line. Yeah, and he starts a racing that angle. 263 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: Nobody's quick. Now he's getting there. All right. 264 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to Florida State's Trey Benson and I've I 265 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: was watching him today and man, do I I like 266 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: this kid? I think his game's going to translate really, 267 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: really well to the NFL. He also has speed, nothing 268 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: like Jayalen, right, not on that level, but the vision, 269 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: the change of direction, the tackle, breaking the home run, 270 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: the home run plays. Trey Benson from Florida State looks 271 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: to me. He looks NFL caliber to me for sure. 272 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, getting off the bus, he probably is the top 273 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: one in this class, you know, I mean in terms 274 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: of the side speed combination, he definitely is the top. 275 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: Last measurement I had on him was six one two 276 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 4: twenty one. We'll get an updated one. 277 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: Sick in Indianapolis running back. 278 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 4: Yes, And by the way, in the prop markets right now, 279 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: the books have set his forty at four to three 280 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: nine man at that side so well, and he's got 281 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: a sprinting in his background and everything like that, and 282 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: plenty of explosive plays on tape. So we'll see if 283 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: he ends up being able to break that number. If 284 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: he does, obviously the stock he's going to surge. Interesting 285 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: evaluation didn't play much his first two years at Oregon, 286 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: in part because he had this devastating knee. He tore 287 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: his acl MC elateral meniscus, medial meniscus and gracial tending, 288 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: which I know what that was, which I guess it's 289 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: a hamstring thing. As a true freshman when he was 290 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: on like the you know, the practice team whatever. Yeah, 291 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: didn't play much as a sophomore, but in uh he 292 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: transferred to Florida State. Twenty twenty two was his enormous 293 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: breakout season. Uh, I mean across the board was awesome, 294 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: but we're truly historical. That season, he became the first 295 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: guy in PFF charting history to break more tackle attempts 296 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: than were He was the only guy over fifty percent 297 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: in that so he was breaking you know, two tackle 298 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 4: attendzie breaking more than one every single time. So I 299 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: truly prolific tackle breaking that the play came down a 300 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: little bit last season. I wonder if that was an 301 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: offensive environment thing. He's a guy who should be projected 302 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: as a bellkow who never got that opportunity because he 303 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: was playing in a Mike Norvel offense. A guy who 304 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: has used, ever since going back to Memphis, a platoon 305 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: of running backs. I think Benson would have been better 306 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: served than one where he could you know, sort of 307 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: get going and warm up and everything like that. But yeah, 308 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 4: very very talented kick moving to the next level. 309 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: The you and I may differ on Texas running back 310 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks. I watched one game just him against Houston, 311 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: so I'm just I'm very early into this, but I 312 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: liked some things. I didn't love anything. And you know, 313 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: I thought his change of direction was okay, the speed 314 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: was just okay. He can catch. You know what I 315 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: really bothered me is open space. The guy does not 316 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: maximize opportunities. I saw him get tackled a bunch in 317 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: just one on one open space situations, and it felt 318 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: like he merely took what the Texas offensive line gave him. 319 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: I didn't see special traits, at least in one game 320 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: for Jonathan Brooks from Texas. 321 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: What do you think? 322 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: And I don't think he's a special athlete either. And 323 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: one of the disappointing things about his injury from November 324 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: is that we're not going to see him in the 325 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: pre draft process. He is not going to have to test. 326 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: So not only is he coming off the knee injury 327 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: that's going to affect his rookie season, but we don't 328 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: We have no idea what that athletic profile is gonna be. 329 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: But I agree with you. You know he is not 330 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: a special athlete by any means. He's not a huge 331 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: back either, just to tick over two hundred pounds. The 332 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: one trait I really like about him is contact balance. 333 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: He's one of those guys where he'll bounce off the 334 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: glancing shots and everything like that and keep on moving. 335 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: But I totally agree with you, like doesn't have the jews, 336 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: doesn't have the long speed, and the make you miss 337 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: is is good but not great. 338 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's Audric Stimy s Timmy Sma stim I'll have 339 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: this down by the draft. I'm confident talk to me 340 00:14:59,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: about him. 341 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: I hope he does well in the NFL because I 342 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: like saying his name, and Notre Dame loved him last season. 343 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: He was the reason that that team was good and 344 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: it wasn't because of Sam Hartman estimate last year ninety 345 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: four point two PFF grade that is speaking of historical 346 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: sixty four broken tackles with that, by the way, an 347 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: elusive rating of one twenty six point five, which is 348 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: very impressive because this is a two hundred and thirty 349 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: pound hammerback. 350 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: He has good feet. 351 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: I really like that, and I like the power as well. 352 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: He runs more angular, but he has really good contact 353 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: balance for running with that style certainly brings the power. 354 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: One really important thing about his evaluation finding out what 355 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: the speed is, finding out what the splits are in Indianapolis. 356 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: The athleticism is the one thing you question about him. 357 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: But last year certainly opened a lot of. 358 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Eyes Michigan's Blake Korum had the luxury of running behind 359 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: this amazing offensive line and it made it. I think 360 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: it makes him a challenge of challenging evaluation because so 361 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: many guys could have succeeded, and he looked good in 362 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: that offense. But he does have some nice traits. He's 363 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: clearly very shifty, really good footwork in balance. It looks 364 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: like he's got some sneaky speed as well. What do 365 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: you think of Blake Korm? 366 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: He another weird evaluation last year at the beginning of 367 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: the season, he did not look impressive at all. He 368 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: looks sluggish. He was coming off an injury of his 369 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: own from twenty twenty two. In the beginning the season, 370 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: he was basically being a scorter for five free yards 371 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: every single run by that sick offensive lines, in particular 372 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 4: run blocking offensive line. I believe this is off memory, 373 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: so forgive me if I'm out by a couple, but 374 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 4: I believe Michigan was number two in PFF run blocking grade. 375 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: Last year pass blocking grade, they were significantly lower. That 376 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: offense was built to have that mauling line for Korum 377 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: get the free yards before contact. The year before we 378 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: had seen shops of Blake Korum a breaking more tackles. 379 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: He's certainly an agile kid. He's one of those bowling 380 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: ball type bill guys that the short and pack guys. 381 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: I like the agility. He doesn't have long speed though, 382 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: And the thing about last year where it really affected 383 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 4: his numbers as far as the sluggishness early on elusive 384 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: rating for Blakekorm was only twenty seven point four last year. 385 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 4: One hundred is what is considered like solid. This kid 386 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 4: was at twenty seven point It was one of the 387 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: lowest we had. Yards after contact was one of the 388 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 4: lowest we had. He was better the year before, so 389 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: you do have to give him that. In his own system, 390 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: I think that could work out. But for me, he's 391 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: more of an early down guy, not going to get 392 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 4: the receiving work in the NFL. Some people disagree with 393 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: me about that, but I didn't see much of him 394 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: as a receiver at Michigan. 395 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: When we come back, let's talk through wide receivers, beginning 396 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: with Marvin Harrison Junior, who seems to be the consensus 397 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: number one. We'll see if you and again I don't 398 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: expect you have all your rankings done at this point, 399 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of great a lot of great 400 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: receivers to talk about, and at least four guys that 401 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: could go in like the top ten eleven picks of 402 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: this draft. So we'll talk to that when we come back. 403 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul Charching, thor An Eistrom 404 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: with you. You can follow Thor on Twitter at thor 405 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: ku Rochester and I am at Paul Charching Ohio State's 406 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior. Everybody has got slotted into pick four 407 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft, and it feels like it's been 408 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: this way. 409 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: We knew this was gonna happen. At this time last year. 410 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: We knew Marvin Harrison was going to be one of 411 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: the first players taken in the draft. So no big 412 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: surprises here unless you see something different than most two. 413 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: I definitely buy that. 414 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, the sports books have the first non quarterback taking 415 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: odds and Marvin Harrison justifiable, he's like minus eight hundred. 416 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised it's. 417 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: Not bettable, but yeah, he's definitely the top non quarterback. 418 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: And in this elite wide receiver client like truly ELEE one, 419 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: where you have three guys that would be wide receiver 420 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 4: one and almost all the classes you know, past five 421 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: six years whatever, he stands at top of them. 422 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: What makes him unique. 423 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: You have the prototypical boundary X type frame that he's 424 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 4: in right like he came off the factory line, but 425 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 4: he has the route running chops and understanding from his father, Marvin, 426 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: who you'll recall was not the you know, in terms 427 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: of the athleticism at all. He was a small guy 428 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, Marvin Harrison had to win on route 429 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: running and that was the thing that he taught his son. 430 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: But his son got all the physical. 431 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: Guests that he didn't get. And the thing you. 432 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: Love about it is so the release package there. There 433 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 4: was teams that tried to press him. You're not pressing him. 434 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: His footwork is really good off the line. He has 435 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: the strength off the line, and then the route running stuff. 436 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 4: I really like his ability to throttle down and then 437 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 4: throttle back up, he weighs absolutely no motion in it. 438 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: And then along the route path he's constantly toggling up 439 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 4: and toggling down his speed. So it's really difficult to 440 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: get a sense of like, where's that route break gonna begin? 441 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: Which way is he gonna go? What's he trying to 442 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: do here? Is he trying to get downtown on me? 443 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 4: Is he gonna cut in? 444 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: You know? Like what's gonna go on? 445 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 4: Because of all those different cool things, he does love 446 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 4: the ball scales, everything like that, so he is justifiably 447 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: the wide. 448 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: Receiver one in this awesome wide receivers. All right, who's 449 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: the receiver you like next after him? 450 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: I would put Melik Neighbors. I love Molik Neighbors. I 451 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: love Malik Neighbors too. 452 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that big body, the big the big build. 453 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the well neighbors. 454 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: So the NF, this is the way the NFL is 455 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 4: going right with the speed receivers like this. I caught 456 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: Melik Neighbors to Jamar Chase. It felt too easy because 457 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: he's coming out of LSU whatever. But they're the same 458 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: body type. They're gonna test very very similarly athletically, and 459 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: you know, I sort of see them in the same phylum, 460 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 4: but he's just a ferrari. 461 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not kingdom, not family, not order. I don't 462 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: remember all the other Yeah, all right, I like that. 463 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, like the unique thing about neighbors a 464 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: couple of different things. He's a very very rare guy 465 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: in terms of it seems as though he accelerates while 466 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 4: he's changing directions. It's instant acceleration out of the route, breaks, 467 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 4: instant stopping whenever he wants. He gets separation at will 468 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: because he can be going full speed and then he 469 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: stops on the dime. He can come back, he can 470 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: break in whatever he wants. But the other guy can't 471 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: do that. Even if he guessed right, he wouldn't be 472 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 4: able to athletically. 473 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: Stay with him. 474 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 4: So that's how he's always creating that and then he 475 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 4: becomes his demon with the ball in his hands afterwards. 476 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 4: He's got really good vision obviously, the agility, and then 477 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 4: that speed. Last thing I'll mention about him, that's unique. 478 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if he taught himself this or if 479 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: this is just natural or what. But you don't see 480 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: you with a lot of guys, but very few. He 481 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: does not move his upper body much when he is 482 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: running at full speed. Everyone when they're running, they chug 483 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: their arms. This guy's got his arms pretty static all 484 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 4: on there. But he's running at four to four maybe 485 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: even high four threes, and so guys have a really 486 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: hard time gauging first of all, how fast. 487 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: He's actually right, you might think he's at full throttle 488 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: because it doesn't look like coasting exactly, because that upper 489 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: body is not moving whatsoever. 490 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: And then it's also really difficult to know because he 491 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 4: doesn't telegraph it with any upper body movement where he's 492 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: going to break his route off. If he is going 493 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: to break it off. 494 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: I saw some great blocking on some film on Malik 495 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: Neighbors too. 496 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 3: He's a dog. 497 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Let's go to let's stay with the same team. Let's 498 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: talk Brian teammate, Brian Thomas. 499 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian Thomas is your uh more for me, the 500 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: prototypical number. 501 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: By the way, you can't comp him to t Higgins 502 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: right now. 503 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna come okay, Goods. I actually come from 504 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 4: to George Pickens, another kid that came out of the 505 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: SEC recently. But it's it's one where it's the big 506 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 4: outside receiver who has the downtown uh But you know, 507 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 4: the ball scales downtown whatnot. He gets up off the ground, 508 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 4: he can high point it. He knows how to pin 509 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: guy's behind his back. He might be a bit faster 510 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: than Pickens in terms of what the testing is, but 511 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: it's the same sort of utility. I don't see Brian 512 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: Thomas ideally as a wide receiver one in the NFL 513 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: on his team. I see him as a really really 514 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: good number two like he was in college. 515 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that. 516 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Let's go to uh, let's go to Ladd mcconkee, who 517 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: must be related to Phil? 518 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: How many common mcconkey's can there be there? There is 519 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: not a lot of mcconkey's, right, So is there? Do 520 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: you know? 521 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: Is there any connection between these between Ladd and Phil? 522 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: All have to get deeper into the research. I don't know. 523 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that. What I do know about 524 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: him is it's separation at will. That guy separates like 525 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: you and I breathe down at the senior ball last year, 526 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 4: Tank we had a thing with Tank Delaware after Tank 527 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: Dell embarrassed all the defensive backs and one on ones 528 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 4: on the Tuesday. On the Wednesday, they started grabbing him 529 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: at the route break because the defensive backs didn't want 530 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: to get embarrassed getting left in the dust by Tank 531 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: Dell in front of all the NFL evaluators. Wow, he 532 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: changed the behavior at the defensive backs more than anyone 533 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: by far that year in those one on ones. 534 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: That was Lad McConkie. 535 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 4: This year, Ladi McConkie dusted everyone on Tuesday just like 536 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: Tank Dell had on Wednesday. 537 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: When he came out. It was a little bit different thing, 538 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: but it changed his behavior. 539 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: Nonetheless, the defensive backs started playing eight yards off the 540 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: guy in one on ones. They were not interested in 541 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: attempting to press him because they knew he was going 542 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: to embarrass him with the footwork and then the separation 543 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: is just going to start earlier. The defensive backs were 544 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: basically saying, you can have a free reception anywhere within 545 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: six yards of the line of scrimmage. I will just 546 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: see that and then try to front all of. 547 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: The availuyeoho, amazing. 548 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: We got to get to a Dunza. We skipped over 549 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: a Dunze. 550 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 4: Let's do it, yeah, oduns So he's the other one 551 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: of those top three guys six to three, he's gonna. 552 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: Be two fifteen to two twenty. 553 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna test better than other people do 554 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 4: in the NFL. NFS and Blessed or the two preseason 555 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: scouting services for the NFL they put out projected forty 556 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: times they had Odoonza in the four fives. I think 557 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: he's gonna run very low four fourths, maybe even high 558 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: four threes. Certainly that's been the reports. Odonza is the 559 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: only one of the top three receivers who is athletically 560 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: testing in Indianapolis. 561 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: They asked him why, and he said, I'm good exactly. 562 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: He said, people have. 563 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: Always undersold my speed because I'm a long strider. So 564 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm moving way faster than it appears on the television screen, 565 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna prove it. So I thought that was 566 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 4: really cool. I love his play strength at that size. 567 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: He's a really good round runner at that size and 568 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: elite ball skills. If he tests as well as the 569 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 4: reports have suggested that that he could, I see Julio 570 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: Jones at him. I think there's a lot of similarities. 571 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: Certainly the same package in terms of the height and 572 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: the weight. And then, like I said, the report, the 573 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: reports of his test very similar to how Julio tested 574 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 4: coming out let's go. 575 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: To the tight end position. Brock Bauers was. At this 576 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: time last year, people were telling me Blrock Bowers was 577 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: going to go in like the top six players of 578 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: the draft. I don't think that's quite gonna hold uh in. 579 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: Barks is just a lot of good players at the 580 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: top of this draft. I think it feels like maybe 581 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: a top heavy draft. I don't think Bower's played badly 582 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: this year. 583 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: Not at all. 584 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's go to the tight ends. Let's start 585 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: with there, because Black Bowers, I think it's the one 586 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: tight end that pretty much everybody's got pegged in the 587 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: first round. And I've seen him as high as pick 588 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: six or seven, as low as pick like eleven twelve 589 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: in that area sphere. 590 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where I think he'll go. 591 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 4: Very very good prospect, obviously, I don't know if I get, 592 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 4: you know, all the way to a generational tight end. 593 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: I don't even think about him as a tight end. 594 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 4: To me, he's a Swiss Army offensive weapon. They lined 595 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: him up outside, they line him up in the slot, 596 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: the line him up in line, they line him up 597 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 4: in the backfield. Would they would do ender rounds to him? 598 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: They would manufacture touches because the special sauce of brock Bowers. 599 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: It's with the ball in his hands. Afterwards, he has 600 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: the speed, the potent if he gets an angle to 601 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: potentially take it downtown. But the tackle breaking it's reminiscent 602 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: of Sam Laporta from the last class, where he has 603 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: that combination of the short area agility in conjunction with 604 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 4: the power. So it's really hard to square him up. 605 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 4: And when you don't square him up, he is absolutely 606 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: running through your arm tackle attempt. And he's a solid blocker. 607 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: I will also say for being a bit undersize round 608 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: two hundred and forty two hundred and forty five pounds, 609 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: but he can do all the different blocks. 610 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: I've certainly played a lot of inline at Georgia. 611 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: All right, it falls off from there at the tight 612 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: end position. But there are some other guys that could 613 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: be Day two picks, right Jatavian Sanders. Talk to me 614 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: about him, Texas. 615 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 4: He is the one that I'm very interested in, particularly 616 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: from a fantasy perspective. Jatavian Sanders is going to be 617 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: a more valuable fantasy asset than he is a real 618 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: life asset because it can't block. He's just a big receipt. 619 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 4: He should be a big slot in the NFL. Like 620 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: maybe not even consider him a tight end. He should 621 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: just be playing in the slot. But super duper athletic. 622 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: The speed, I love the speed, I love the agility. 623 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: The change of direction for his size is upper tier. 624 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: He also has good core strength and balance. He's one 625 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: of those guys that cannot get jarred when he's running 626 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: the routes at the catch point, guys try to go 627 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: through his back different stuff like that. You're not doing 628 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 4: that either. You can't jar the kid. But yeah, he 629 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 4: has that ability to separate for all those reasons. This 630 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: and then he has the ball skills at the end 631 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 4: of it. But that athleticism, the strength that allows him 632 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 4: to get open and winning contested situations where he is 633 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: really really good in the contested situations. He also makes 634 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: people miss when he has the ball in his hands. 635 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 4: Not going to break tackles, but he will make you miss. 636 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: But but yeah, the nippicks on him. He doesn't block 637 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: at all. So that's the big thing. You just have 638 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: to know you're getting the big edge. 639 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: We don't care about blocking. 640 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 3: We don't not in fantasy. 641 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: You know else can't block very well, Travis Kelce. 642 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, who cares? 643 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, who cares? If you're good enough of a receiver, 644 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They can't all be George Kittle. 645 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, right, Yeah, that's exactly right. 646 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: Ohio State's Cade Stover presumably not the son of former 647 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: Browns kicker Matt Stover. 648 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: I don't think so, but I will look into that. 649 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 4: He's an interesting kid who was a prep basketball star. 650 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 4: Then he was Ohio's mister football as a senior, mostly 651 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: as a defensive guy. He signed with Ohio State as 652 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: a four star linebacker. Then they and by the way 653 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: I pulled this up for you, two forty seven Sports 654 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: comped him when he was coming out of high school 655 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 4: and signing with Ohio State to Anthony. 656 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: Barr, Yeah, okay, all right, as a linebacker. 657 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: They then Ohio State switches him to defensive end when 658 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: when he gets to campus. So he played those two 659 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: positions as a freshman, moved a tight end as a sophomore, 660 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 4: but then briefly went back to defense twenty twenty one. 661 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: It was the last two years full time tight end 662 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: where he broke out. You see that springy athletics, you 663 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: know athleticism, that of course comes with being a basketball player, 664 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: different stuff like that, and a guy who had the 665 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: ability to bend the edge when he. 666 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: Was rushed as an outside pass rusher. 667 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: He also has the skills as a receiver, even though 668 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 4: he's really early on with it. The hands certainly speak 669 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: for themselves, only two drops, one hundred plus targets last 670 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: two years. I also think he has an advanced route 671 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: running understanding for where he's at with that position in 672 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: terms of this stuff like the stop start agility, getting 673 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: into the route breaks, different stuff like that, the footwork 674 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: in there, and he's coming along as a blocker. He 675 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: uses his length well, is one thing I like about him. 676 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: And he knows angles and he understands leverage as well. 677 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: Needs to continue working on his technique and the core 678 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: strength for that area of his game to become upper 679 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: tier in the NFL. But a very interesting prospect, noneth. 680 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: Last, all right, that's Ohio State's Kate Stover. Let's do 681 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna do three straight Big ten. Well, pretty soon 682 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: they're just all big ten. Yeah, right, tight end conference, babe, 683 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: It is a tight end conference. And we will have 684 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: an Iowa connection coming up in a minute. Penn States 685 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: THEO Johnson. 686 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: He's one of the better size athleticism combinations in this 687 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 4: tight end class, and he's showing chops as a receiver. 688 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 4: The one thing that you know sort of concerned you 689 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: in college was there was inconsistencies there, But you have 690 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 4: to give them the benefit of the doubt of the 691 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: offensive environment. 692 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: He came from. 693 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: Drew Allard, their quarterback, even though he's a value who 694 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: would recruit, really struggled the past couple of years. THEO 695 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: Johnson was in a twelve personnel offense where they had 696 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: another tight end they would throw the ball to as well, 697 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: but Alla wasn't a particularly good thrower. I like those 698 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 4: skills of Johnson. I want to see how he tests, 699 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 4: but I like the receiving skills, and he played really 700 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: well down in Mobile. When we saw him at the 701 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl, was clearly the best tight end there. So 702 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 4: the best overall tight end, best overall tight that we saw. Yeah, 703 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: so he definitely moved up there. If he can do 704 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: it again at the combine, there's a big opportunity for 705 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 4: these guys who are not amongst that top three tight 706 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: end group that we just talked about. There is perceived 707 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: to be an enormous tear drop after that. So all 708 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: these guys in this grouping, if any of them can 709 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: stand out for the rest of this draft process, you 710 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: could potentially jump up there, maybe even go at the 711 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: end of the day too. 712 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of teams that need tight ends right now. Yeah, 713 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: Miami does, the Jets? Do the Bengals do? Man, imagine 714 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: dropping yourself into the Bengals offense or the Miami offense. 715 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: Yes, as a as a good tight end. Oh, that'd 716 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: be I want to Tavian Sanders in one of those two. 717 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice? 718 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: That's what I want. Yeah, all right. 719 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to uh Iowa via Michigan. Eric All, who 720 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: I had not heard of until you just you know, 721 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: you dropped his name on me a couple of days ago. 722 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: The give me the update on on Eric All. 723 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's coming from both the sort of the TEUs. 724 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: He played for Jim Harbaugh Michigan for a couple of years. 725 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: Then he came over with Cade McNamara, the quarterback that 726 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 4: they had the transferre to Iowa. JJ McCarthy stole his 727 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 4: jab of course, so they came over. Last year was 728 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: supposed to be Eric Hall's like you know, national coming 729 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: out party whatever, and he was playing well. But the 730 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: problem was McNamara came into the season hurt and then 731 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: summarily was knocked out for the season. Then Eric All 732 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: tears his ACL in October when he was starting to 733 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: look really good in that offense. This was coming off 734 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: a season ending back injury when he was at Michigan 735 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two. He's only played in ten games 736 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: over the last two years, but he looked really good 737 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, last full season that we saw when 738 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: he was a soft more thirty eight catches, four hundred 739 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: thirty seven yards and two touchdowns. I really like his 740 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: combination of size, speed, and feet. He can change directions 741 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 4: really quickly, also accelerates really quickly out of route breaks 742 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: to return to top speed. You can line them up anywhere. 743 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: He's showing that over the course of his career. Obviously 744 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: was coach well at both the schools that he was at. 745 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 4: There are some concentration drops on film. That's the one 746 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: thing is a receiver he'd nitpick. And then he also 747 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 4: lacks play strength, so he's not a great blocker even 748 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: though he tries. You know, he can pick off the 749 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: smaller guys with his length stuff like that, but he 750 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 4: gets ragged out by the bigger guys and then along 751 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: the route path he can get jarred a little bit. 752 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: So those are the couple things. But for me, Eric 753 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 4: Hall is the sleeper in this tight end class. This 754 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: would be a guy. 755 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: Can any Iowa tight end be a sleeper at this point? 756 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 4: Well, we've seen some slip through the cracks and then 757 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: became studs in the NFL, like all of them. 758 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 759 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: They basically rehab redo all of the drafts from all 760 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: of these well other than Offan yeah, no offense. The 761 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: one Iowa tight end that just and obviously he's still 762 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: in the league and he's not bad. 763 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: He's not terrible. It just hasn't. 764 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: But for the brotherhood that he's with is y pedigree. 765 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Because you have a mount rushmore we do. Basically there 766 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: is a mount rushmore there. Now we'll dive deeply into 767 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: all of these guys in the coming weeks. 768 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 769 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 4: And so we'll have all the athletic testing profiles combine, 770 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 4: can bake all that stuff and then do a little 771 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: bit deeper dies. 772 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: I can't wait for that. 773 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So well, over the coming shows. We're gonna have 774 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: some free agency shows because free agency looming, We're gonna 775 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: have some big moves. Whose Kirk Cousin's gonna be throwing too, right? 776 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: Is Baker Mayfield automatically going back to Tampa Bay? All 777 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: the free agent running backs, you know, sa Kwon Barkley 778 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: and Tony Pollard and Josh Jacobs. There's gonna be so 779 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: much happening. 780 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: I can't wait for that. 781 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: And then we'll be you know, a lot of a 782 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of the second half of March. In April, we'll 783 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: be talking with you, yeah, breaking down all these positions. 784 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: Though. 785 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna find some sleepers too, and a couple of 786 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 4: these episodes, we're gonna get out in the weeds and 787 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: go sleeps. Yeah, And you know it doesn't work every year, 788 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 4: but last year, you know, Puka was one of my guys. 789 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: Tank Dell was one of my guys, you know, and 790 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: he ended up going in the third, but you know, 791 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: at this time last year he was considered like a fourth, 792 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 4: fifth round guy. 793 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, we will find you guys, some sleepers out there. 794 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't expect you to get them, all right, but 795 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: your hit rate last last preseason was very high. I 796 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: think about the only the only guy I remember you 797 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: really pounding the table for that didn't do much was 798 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: Roshan Johnson. 799 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. 800 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Other than that, I think you were really really good. 801 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'm still I'm still bullish on Rochan. But yeah, 802 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: we we had a good process last year, and you know, 803 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 4: just bring the same thing over this year and hopefully 804 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: we can we can find some unearthed some of those 805 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: diamonds in the rough. 806 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Thanks tork Wait. 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