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Speaker 1: I um, Jason, you don't know this. I actually just
Speaker 1: disemboweled some ribs that I made last night, just only
Speaker 1: because it's Meet Friday. That because that's that's that's how
Speaker 1: I that's how I roll gillow protein early in the morning.
Speaker 1: Uh Father's Day? Have you? Have you made it clear
Speaker 1: what you want for Father's Day? Uh? No, I'm not
Speaker 1: a huge like present kind of guy, Doug, I don't
Speaker 1: know idea I want? You want space for Father's Day? No? No,
Speaker 1: I do. I definitely don't want space. I love hanging
Speaker 1: with the kids and the wife. We are actually going
Speaker 1: out of town here shortly for a trip. School year
Speaker 1: just ended on Thursday. I'm sure the rest of America
Speaker 1: has been out of school for a while. But it's
Speaker 1: a good feeling to have finished the school year from
Speaker 1: hell as I'm sure everybody put when put had to
Speaker 1: deal with And uh, you know we're gonna celebrate with
Speaker 1: a little getaway and um, you know then the summer away.
Speaker 1: Your life is kind of uh, your life is in
Speaker 1: between getaways. Like that's you got. You got a good
Speaker 1: thing going with your with the with the volume of
Speaker 1: getaways that you're able to pull off. I'm I'm impressed
Speaker 1: vollowing you on social media hashtag hashtag blessed right. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: you get one life, Doug. You got to enjoy it,
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. And uh, you know it's
Speaker 1: weird you get out to California. I live my entire
Speaker 1: life basically in the Northeast. I spend a summer in
Speaker 1: North Carolina at an internship. But um, and you get
Speaker 1: out to LA and it's just so different. Man, Like
Speaker 1: the East. You know this, it's nine to five, it's work, work, work, um,
Speaker 1: and out here in the West it's like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a volleyball game at ten am, guys on
Speaker 1: a Tuesday. Are you in hell? Yeah? I'm in you know,
Speaker 1: like a pickup basketball at noon on Fridays or whatever.
Speaker 1: People are always doing stuff. It's like enjoy life first
Speaker 1: out here and second his work. A lot of people
Speaker 1: work for themselves, they start businesses and I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really living the dream out here. That's Jason
Speaker 1: McIntyre living the California dream. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is
Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so um,
Speaker 1: there's like just a ridiculous number of NBA stories. Usually
Speaker 1: the NBA drama is the offseason, but we have We
Speaker 1: have the Bucks beating the Nets last night. That series
Speaker 1: is easy even at three tonight. We have a doubleheader, right,
Speaker 1: we got the Hawks with the three games of two
Speaker 1: series league playing at home, trying to eliminate the Sixers.
Speaker 1: The Clippers were the three games the two league trying
Speaker 1: to eliminate the Utah Jazz. Then, of course you have
Speaker 1: the drama in Dallas yesterday, Rick Carlisle leaves this day
Speaker 1: after Donnie Nelson was fired, this day after there's a
Speaker 1: tell all article about a shadow gm and dysfunction within
Speaker 1: the team. Today, Kemba Walker was traded for Al Horford, Like, wait,
Speaker 1: what al Horford's where Kemba traded to Oklahoma City. The
Speaker 1: Celtics save some money, bring back al Horford, get Moses Brown,
Speaker 1: get some interior helps, some leadership. We'll see how that
Speaker 1: goes over. Right, Then, of course you have all the
Speaker 1: other coaches and Zion's family unhappy. It sounds like his
Speaker 1: stepdad right unhappy with the progress of the Pelicans. All right,
Speaker 1: So I just I give it to you, Jason, What
Speaker 1: do you think is the most interesting. I'm fascinated by
Speaker 1: the Luca Dontchich situation in Dallas, But I feel like
Speaker 1: we need to go back to the seventy six ers,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, because we seem to greatly disagree
Speaker 1: on the doc rivers, Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris, triumvirate, if
Speaker 1: you will. I don't know, Doug, the hatred for Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons is really crazy because remember the seventy six ers
Speaker 1: worked fine all season. They were they number one seed
Speaker 1: in the East, despite and Bead getting injured again, he
Speaker 1: was an MVP candidate. But Doug, is where are we
Speaker 1: on Ben Simmons? Like do you think you can build
Speaker 1: a championship contender around him? Or is he just a
Speaker 1: strictly a number two or I don't know, maybe he's
Speaker 1: a number three. I think he can be a part
Speaker 1: of a championship team. Look, they run into the classic
Speaker 1: problem of you know, the best part about Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: is when he has the ball in his hands. The
Speaker 1: problem when he has the ball in his hands is
Speaker 1: you don't have to guard him. So whereas look, Janice
Speaker 1: is limited in terms of his ability to shoot, but
Speaker 1: the more space you give him, he takes up that space.
Speaker 1: And he's so long, and he has such advanced footwork,
Speaker 1: and I think he gets away with traveling a bunch
Speaker 1: as well, but he still finds and his body is
Speaker 1: so big and and he gets an angle on you,
Speaker 1: he can still get by you. It's he starts playing
Speaker 1: downhill and it's really really difficult. That's not really how
Speaker 1: Ben plays, right Ben And this this was told me
Speaker 1: when he was at LSU. It's like everybody's like, wow,
Speaker 1: he's the next this next time. His idol was lamar Odom.
Speaker 1: Growing when he was a kid, he was lamar Odom.
Speaker 1: And that may be why he shoots left handed, because
Speaker 1: you know, he's right handed and everything else, everything inside
Speaker 1: the key is right handed. He's right right handed in
Speaker 1: real life. He's the opposite like Russell Westbrook is left
Speaker 1: hand in real life. Lebron his left hand in real
Speaker 1: life and they play basketball right handed. But I think
Speaker 1: that's why he shoots left handed. And a long time
Speaker 1: ago people would say, why don't you just switch him
Speaker 1: to right hand? He can't shoot left handed, and he won't.
Speaker 1: He won't switch, can you? Yeah, but it's tricky and
Speaker 1: I don't I don't believe it totally works with EMBIID.
Speaker 1: I think you can make it sort of work, but
Speaker 1: you have to have everything has to be perfect. And
Speaker 1: then when you factor in all day to pay to
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris and you know what they're paying him, that
Speaker 1: they just didn't have the money to spread around to
Speaker 1: the bench, and the bench suffered. And you know there's
Speaker 1: a limit to how much shooting, Like you can have
Speaker 1: one Seth Curry like mad he can really shoot, Like, well,
Speaker 1: why is Seth Curry available? Because he can't guard, But
Speaker 1: you can hide that when you have him bead and
Speaker 1: you have Simmons, you take one of them all off
Speaker 1: the court and now all a sudden, your defense changes
Speaker 1: a great deal. So it's it's a tricky mix, but
Speaker 1: I'm not selling all my stock. But man, the shooting
Speaker 1: is not getting better, and the free throw yips are
Speaker 1: bad and getting worse, and it gets to a point
Speaker 1: to where you don't have to guard a guy, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a hard way. You gotta be so good
Speaker 1: if you're playing four on five, Yeah, you gotta be
Speaker 1: so good at everything else. It's it's weird. It's a
Speaker 1: wing league, a shooting league, and Ben Simmons is an
Speaker 1: awesome wing, but he can't shoot. You're you're one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right. I would say the Sixers are using it.
Speaker 1: He's just a clunky fit with Joe el Embiid because
Speaker 1: they're both big and take up a lot of space
Speaker 1: in the lane, and Ben Simmons, as you said, can't shoot.
Speaker 1: I just feel like if you were to build around
Speaker 1: him as your five, right, like a point center Draymond
Speaker 1: Green with a death lineup in Golden State, if you
Speaker 1: can make Ben Simmons, you're five, but he can handle point,
Speaker 1: take pressure off the lead guard, Like I came up
Speaker 1: a trade of Ben Simmons. Okay, we'll just work with
Speaker 1: me here. Golden State Warriors say, man, we've got Draymond
Speaker 1: who can defend? What if we had two Draymonds, meaning
Speaker 1: a Ben Simmons deal, We give up Kelly u Bray,
Speaker 1: that Minnesota pick, we shipp Weissman in to a third
Speaker 1: team in a wacky deal, and we try to make
Speaker 1: that work with shooting Ben Simmons and Draymond Green. We
Speaker 1: have defense on the back line, switch on everything, And
Speaker 1: I don't know could something like that work? Golden State
Speaker 1: is creative. They love to take chances. Can we can we?
Speaker 1: Can we just do this? Can we just this? Can
Speaker 1: we just get through the playoffs this year? You're already
Speaker 1: trading Ben Simmons. They had a twenty six point lead
Speaker 1: fourteen minutes to go to me. The story of tonight is,
Speaker 1: you know, I think you find out if if? Do
Speaker 1: you know, Doc Rivers, this is coaching. Can you get
Speaker 1: the guys to the magic level and figured out and
Speaker 1: to to win tonight? You're the better team? Hey? You are?
Speaker 1: You're You're the better team. Lou Williams went a little crazy. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Trey Young did a great job getting the free throw line,
Speaker 1: but the bench was really what undid you? But he
Speaker 1: felt like he had to go to his bench because
Speaker 1: the starters were gassed. I thought you should have just
Speaker 1: kept the foot on the accelerator and put him away.
Speaker 1: But I twenty six points usually is putting a team away.
Speaker 1: To me, that's what the story of the night is.
Speaker 1: And then I gotta tell you, if the Clippers can
Speaker 1: win tonight, that's they get past the second round for
Speaker 1: the first time in franchise history without Kawhi Leonard against
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the West. And you can
Speaker 1: tell me that Donovan Mitchell he's got a tweaked ankle. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's still let's go ninety five percent of Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1: I don't know about I mean, he's not the guy
Speaker 1: he was in the first two games, that's clear. I
Speaker 1: mean he got injured in Game three and left with
Speaker 1: six minutes left and never returned. I know they were
Speaker 1: down like fifteen or whatever. That he missed sixteen games. Yeah, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ninety five percent. I think like
Speaker 1: more like sixty five percent. I mean, you watch Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell early, You're like, wait a second, it's the first
Speaker 1: it's the third quarter, and Donovan Mitchell's attempted eight shots.
Speaker 1: This is not the guy who had you know, thirty
Speaker 1: plus in like six straight games. This just is not
Speaker 1: the same guy, all right, So what happens to night?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I don't want to give
Speaker 1: the Clippers any shine um. You know, you and I
Speaker 1: can go at other fifteen rounds on tylu U No
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard and they advanced with Reggie Jackson leading the
Speaker 1: way and Morris and Terrence Man off the bench like
Speaker 1: Nick buttoom his corpse has been exhumed and he's like
Speaker 1: playing spirited defensive basketball. That's a hell of a run
Speaker 1: for the Clippers. Man. I still don't think I get by.
Speaker 1: I think what people are missing on the Clippers. And look,
Speaker 1: I think they got that one game bump playing without him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can win another game against
Speaker 1: against the Jazz team. We'd also point out that the
Speaker 1: Jazz this is much like much like your sixers take
Speaker 1: like you just can't fall back on the regular season
Speaker 1: like the regular season is and no, but it's it
Speaker 1: doesn't really, It's it's very hard to draw a correlation
Speaker 1: between what the regular season because the postseason is just different.
Speaker 1: The level of intensity is different, the officiating is different,
Speaker 1: and so you can get away with taking more threes
Speaker 1: than anybody in the regular season at time in the postseason,
Speaker 1: I do think fatigue and pressure play a factor, and
Speaker 1: it's harder to live by the three. Somebody smart in
Speaker 1: the league told me, Doug that the regular season really
Speaker 1: shows off your strengths and the playoffs really show off
Speaker 1: your weaker weaknesses. That's good. And you know when I
Speaker 1: heard that, I was like, Okay, Ben Simmons weakness. Well,
Speaker 1: it's become glaring in the fourth quarter of one game. Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yannis, I don't think the stat's been
Speaker 1: mentioned enough. Did not take a three pointer last night?
Speaker 1: Did you notice that? He heard? Finally, Hey, Yanna, stop
Speaker 1: with the pull up threes, bro, you stink at three pointers.
Speaker 1: You're shooting like nine percent. Take it inside. Take James
Speaker 1: Harden to pound town and just destroy him on the block.
Speaker 1: And you know, Janna's finally, after multiple postseasons of failing,
Speaker 1: is starting to I mean, if he goes down to
Speaker 1: the block in Game seven, they don't have an answer.
Speaker 1: Was they've shelved Claxton, you know who who looked good
Speaker 1: in the regular season. The playoffs are really showing teams weaknesses,
Speaker 1: and if you can get over those weaknesses. Whether you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Harris looks awesome in the regular season, I mean,
Speaker 1: where is he He's on a milk carton in the playoffs, Doug, Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's the level. Remember when you have when you
Speaker 1: have James Harden and you have Kyrie Irving and you
Speaker 1: have Kevin Durant, you have to actually put a guy
Speaker 1: in a half on each one of those guys. And
Speaker 1: so when you're the fifth option then and Joe Harris
Speaker 1: is moving and spotting, he's You're getting all clean looks.
Speaker 1: Now you you don't have to pay nearly as much
Speaker 1: attention to James Harden, you don't have to pay nearly
Speaker 1: as much attention to whomever else the nets are thrown
Speaker 1: out there instead of Kyrie Irving. Now you can pay
Speaker 1: special attention to Joe Harris, and the looks are different.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a different role. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like trying to explain to somebody, all right, look,
Speaker 1: you've been a number two wide receiver your whole life.
Speaker 1: Now let's move you over to number one. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's different. By the way, another quick note on strength
Speaker 1: and weakness regular season. Oh, Rudy Gobert's the Jazz MVP.
Speaker 1: He's so good defensively. The Jazz are third in the
Speaker 1: league in defensive efficiency. Rudy Gobert in the playoffs? Do
Speaker 1: we need to pull him for more? More? George's Niyang
Speaker 1: or Jordan Clarkson for offense. I'm gonna point out the
Speaker 1: defensive efficiency stats in the league. The Lakers were number one.
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis bounced, they lost six ers or two. They're
Speaker 1: about to be eliminated. Utah was three. New York was
Speaker 1: tied for third, Golden State Memphis. All the top defensive
Speaker 1: teams either gone or about to be toasted. Brooklyn, by
Speaker 1: the way, was number one, The Clippers were number two
Speaker 1: in offense, and Phoenix was number four in offense. I mean, Doug,
Speaker 1: it's an offensive league, now, well, yeah, it's it's definitely.
Speaker 1: It's definitely changed a great deal. And then and the
Speaker 1: spacing is and the skill of the shot making. But
Speaker 1: a team that was putrid on defense outstanding on offense
Speaker 1: is the Dallas Mavericks. They get eliminated. The story comes
Speaker 1: out that Luca isn't happy with the Shadow. GM was
Speaker 1: close to Donnie Nelson, who drafted him, although some of
Speaker 1: Donnie's more recent selections haven't haven't worked out as well.
Speaker 1: So you think that Luca would scare away potential coaching candidate. No,
Speaker 1: you want to coach Luca. It's this Mark Cuban, Harla Bob.
Speaker 1: And by the way, a lot of people who tuning
Speaker 1: in have no idea who this harlabab character is. He
Speaker 1: was allegedly an amazing NBA gambler back in the day.
Speaker 1: He put together some algorithm that helped him win a
Speaker 1: lot of money gambling on the NBA. So Mark Cuban says,
Speaker 1: I like outside the box, guys, I'm gonna bring in
Speaker 1: this NBA gambler. Like this guy have no experience in
Speaker 1: any front office in any NBA capacity. He's just an
Speaker 1: NBA gambler. And Cuban apparently loves him, and the rest
Speaker 1: of the front office does not. Rick Carlisle did not,
Speaker 1: And now Mark Cuban basically has a shadow GM his
Speaker 1: guy Harla Bob. Now, Doug, you, you and I go
Speaker 1: to some Laker games, right? I like to go two
Speaker 1: hours before, hang out courtside, watch up close, like Luca
Speaker 1: Dodge just three feet away from me working out, and
Speaker 1: Doug One of the last games before the pandemic hit
Speaker 1: was that I went to was MAVs Lakers. I wanted
Speaker 1: to see Luca up close. You know, you see trainers
Speaker 1: that you know, court side, you talk to people, and
Speaker 1: I kept noticing a guy on the mav sideline who
Speaker 1: had like a flotilla of people around him, handing him papers,
Speaker 1: talking to him. And I asked somebody like, who is
Speaker 1: this guy? He seems like the most important guy out
Speaker 1: here besides Luca. Oh that's Harla Bob. And the guy
Speaker 1: really carried himself like he was running things, Doug, and
Speaker 1: I was stunned. I'm like, wait, this is the former
Speaker 1: gambler and he's basically running the MAVs sideline like during warmups. Interesting,
Speaker 1: and you could tell he has all the power, Doug.
Speaker 1: If I'm a coach, you're basically going in, here's what
Speaker 1: you're going to do. We're gonna tell you what to do,
Speaker 1: and you have to deal with Luca and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the shadow of billionaire Mark Cuban is at every game. Dog,
Speaker 1: that is a lot of pressure and you're not gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of say on the sideline. Well, I
Speaker 1: think it depends who the GM is you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta have a guy who has your back. The GM
Speaker 1: will will hire his next coach. There's some talks that
Speaker 1: it'll be Jamal Mosley. He was kind of a you know,
Speaker 1: company guy, and he's been there and very well respected.
Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna end up finding out that
Speaker 1: most of the coaching hires, not all like I think
Speaker 1: Terry Stotts. Maybe Carlisle gets another shot made with Portland.
Speaker 1: But I would say that most of these guys who
Speaker 1: get hired will be in there about forty years old,
Speaker 1: and they played recently and they've been on a bench.
Speaker 1: And Sam Cassell's the Jamal Mosley's the Chauncey Billips of
Speaker 1: the world. I think that's the way the league is trending.
Speaker 1: And some of it is for control from the front office.
Speaker 1: Some of it is for relatability, Like I even think
Speaker 1: the boss of the Celtics, like nobody thinks Brad Stevens
Speaker 1: not a brilliant basketball coach, but the construct of that
Speaker 1: staff and the age of the players, and at some
Speaker 1: point they just tune out something that they don't feel
Speaker 1: like you've actually ever done before, fair or unfair, no
Speaker 1: matter how successful Brad has been in respected he is
Speaker 1: around the league and in coaching circles. It felt like
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting that same level of respect. Contrarian question
Speaker 1: for you, Doug, Rick Carlile, Yes, he's sixty one. Is
Speaker 1: his firing a bit of an overreaction to two straight
Speaker 1: playoff losses to the Clippers, who are one of the
Speaker 1: best teams in the league with two superstars on the roster.
Speaker 1: They pushed them to six last year, way ahead of schedule,
Speaker 1: and they pushed them to seven this year. If they're
Speaker 1: facing anybody else in the West, you know, Denver, Portland,
Speaker 1: whatever the MAVs are advancing, we know that. Is this
Speaker 1: an overreaction to losing to the Clippers? No, No, I
Speaker 1: would say, I look, I think he lost the series
Speaker 1: when they were up. What was the score they were up.
Speaker 1: I think they're up nineteen in the first quarter, thirty
Speaker 1: to eleven in Game three. They're up nineteen in the
Speaker 1: first quarter of Game three. Now, in fairness to Rick Carlisle,
Speaker 1: taking Luca out with you know, between four and five
Speaker 1: minutes to go in the first quarter. That's what they do,
Speaker 1: that's how they that's their rotation. The difference is you
Speaker 1: got a chance, you put a team down twenty five
Speaker 1: or thirty, and the Clippers were not ready to play
Speaker 1: that night. The arena was still half empty at the time.
Speaker 1: It was in Dallas. But the thing is over over
Speaker 1: if you can win that game. It was a three
Speaker 1: or four point game. But at the end of the
Speaker 1: first quarter that's when they lost the series, when you
Speaker 1: took your foot off the neck of the Clippers and
Speaker 1: they and they were and they reacted. So I think
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's probably a bunch of things.
Speaker 1: But he leaves with two years left in a deal.
Speaker 1: My guess is that he'd had enough, they'd had enough
Speaker 1: of him. He probably has something lined up, and you know,
Speaker 1: you fired Don Nelson. I'm not really down with some
Speaker 1: guy I don't know or respect, you know, running this thing.
Speaker 1: Just and ya one more thing on the maps. So
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban and his shadow GM Harlabab also, according to
Speaker 1: an athletic story, just went rogue in the draft and
Speaker 1: took Josh Green eighteen. And all the scouts are looking
Speaker 1: at each other like, wait a second, what the heck
Speaker 1: did we just do. I'm not going to kill him
Speaker 1: for the Josh Green pick. He's a young player. We
Speaker 1: didn't see much. But the guy who went after him,
Speaker 1: Sadiq Bay Yeah, was first team All Rookie. Uh Tyrese
Speaker 1: Maxie went twenty one. He had very good flashes with
Speaker 1: the Sixers. Emmanuel quickly was an impact player for the Knicks.
Speaker 1: He went twenty fifth. Like I mean shadow GM guy
Speaker 1: and Cuban apparently this Josh greenpick, like they bricked that.
Speaker 1: And they also took uh Tyrell Terry at one. He
Speaker 1: can't play. He didn't. I didn't. I don't. That seems strong.
Speaker 1: He's not good at all. I struggle to see him
Speaker 1: being an NBA player and NBA, you know, in the
Speaker 1: first round you miss on too, I got I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the Tyrell Terry pick at all. He
Speaker 1: can really he can really shoot, but like he's not
Speaker 1: better than Jalen Brunson, you know, and he's not he's not.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't, I didn't get it. I didn't. It
Speaker 1: would be honest. This MAV's roster is not very good
Speaker 1: outside of Luca, like porzingis. You gotta ship him out
Speaker 1: of town if you can get Orlando or somebody to
Speaker 1: bite on. Hey, no free agent stars gonna there. Hey,
Speaker 1: we think this guy stinks. You take it, take damage
Speaker 1: good support. Zikis you're selling low, so you're not gonna
Speaker 1: get a ton, But I think you gotta do You
Speaker 1: cannot trot the same roster out next year, Doug. We
Speaker 1: agree on that, right, you just can't do that. No,
Speaker 1: but nobody's trotting the same roster out next year. The
Speaker 1: Lakers when the championship they had four players come back, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not the reality of it. The question is how
Speaker 1: do you how do you make up the big The
Speaker 1: issue they're gonna run into is, obviously you want to
Speaker 1: build around Luca, but Lucas so completely dominates the basketball.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, so am I just you were
Speaker 1: just gonna get guys that catch and shoot, like are
Speaker 1: we gonna get to play with the ball a little
Speaker 1: bit too? And Luca and guard at all? I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he makes James Harden look like like Michael Cooper's
Speaker 1: worst defensive player Luca or Damian Lillard. And Luca's got
Speaker 1: a bigger body so he can at least put a
Speaker 1: body on a guy. I would say Luca's a worst defender,
Speaker 1: but a but a bigger body. Okay, So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not it's It's not good all right? Coming up next, Um,
Speaker 1: do the Bucks suddenly have control over the nets? And
Speaker 1: what does that mean to the future of the Eastern Conference?
Speaker 1: To Boudin Holzer to Jannis. We'll get to all that
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Speaker 1: get all of your basketball hot takes ready, throw him
Speaker 1: at at at David and watch him swat him away. Right.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I would do. That's because you you
Speaker 1: know what was the the um You're not sure yet
Speaker 1: on tylu Well, I don't what has tyl Ever done? Well,
Speaker 1: look we know what he's done. He wanted title in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: he wanted He's one as pocket Kings, I said, O King,
Speaker 1: I mean you know you could go aces uh, you
Speaker 1: know Kawhi what maybe the best two way player in
Speaker 1: the league, Lebron, Like, it's really tough. How do we
Speaker 1: know how good he is? You know? But again, then
Speaker 1: then the question by watching the playoffs, by watching watching
Speaker 1: him all behind O two in every series when he's
Speaker 1: got Kawhi and Paul George, and then he makes adjustments
Speaker 1: because he's desperate and has to and you know, again,
Speaker 1: Paul Kawai has been dominant, Paul George finally showed up.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't think it's a slam dunked obvious
Speaker 1: that Tyler's great. If he saw great, why is he
Speaker 1: down O two in both series to start? He's got
Speaker 1: the better team, he's favored in each series. Doug Again, again,
Speaker 1: you go as Vegas as the as the end, all
Speaker 1: be all. I don't think I don't all be all this.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's no right or wrong answer. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you go it's Phil Jackson a coach. Yes, Phil
Speaker 1: Jackson isn't amazing. We know he's a really good coach. Okay,
Speaker 1: but then you make the same argument about him with
Speaker 1: it He's always had great players, right, like, would have
Speaker 1: never won anything until Phil Jackson is kind of needed,
Speaker 1: did Kobe and check. David Dorpe joins his true Hoope's
Speaker 1: former coach himself at coach Thorpe still coaches coaches guys
Speaker 1: as well. I gotta tell you, like, I've been crazy
Speaker 1: impressed with Tylo and the adjustments that he's made and
Speaker 1: also the steadiness when they when they fall behind in
Speaker 1: games and in series, Like you can't there's no facial affect.
Speaker 1: You can't tell what's going on as a guy who
Speaker 1: has coached and knows this league. Are you do you
Speaker 1: think the jury is still out on Tyler? Well, depends
Speaker 1: on what we're looking for. What's the charge. I think
Speaker 1: I think he's a good a very good coach for sure.
Speaker 1: Whether he's a leader or not, I agree with Jason.
Speaker 1: We can't say he's a lead or not. I would
Speaker 1: tell you this though he I wrote this actually before
Speaker 1: game five. He's come up with an adjustment that's the
Speaker 1: checkmate of the series and that was and it worked
Speaker 1: even after Choi went out, which is you know, they
Speaker 1: started small but solid on defense, so little guys playing
Speaker 1: solidly because when they go small. The Clippers are huge, right.
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson's a little guy, but his winkspin seven feet
Speaker 1: like the toomb has got a wink spin at seven whatever.
Speaker 1: These are long, tall guys. Mostly they just didn't play
Speaker 1: a center well. Then in Game two they went big.
Speaker 1: That didn't work out. They played solidly again. Game three,
Speaker 1: they didn't just go small. They really pressure. They denied
Speaker 1: passes they hadn't denied before. They absolutely pressured at the
Speaker 1: ball they get They gotten Donovan space more and the
Speaker 1: series flipped. They've been blowing. They've been blowing the Jazz out.
Speaker 1: They blew Jazz out obviously game three and four. Game five,
Speaker 1: I thought they lacked some energy to start the game.
Speaker 1: It's hard to play that hard for that long, and
Speaker 1: I thought there was a little bit of energy slippage
Speaker 1: in the beginning of Game five. They picked it up.
Speaker 1: The Jazz kept making contested shots, and that melted away
Speaker 1: the second half and they won without Kauai again. This
Speaker 1: playoff guy's always got to move, counter move, and you
Speaker 1: also hope to find a counter that the other team
Speaker 1: can't counter back. And right now the Jazz and I've
Speaker 1: figured out what the Clippers have done. It's in three
Speaker 1: straight games that they've not adjusted. All they do is
Speaker 1: keep driving, driving driving. The jazz is blender, which let's
Speaker 1: up to call their offense is based on passing and
Speaker 1: then driving, and they have not figured it out and
Speaker 1: they're in a lot of trouble here. David, very familiar
Speaker 1: with your work. Congrats on all your success. I know
Speaker 1: I had Henry Abbott on my podcast. He speaks the
Speaker 1: world of you, obviously real quick. Is Donovan Mitchell playing
Speaker 1: on one leg? Is that an accurate statement because he
Speaker 1: has not looked like the same guy the last two games.
Speaker 1: And the other part of this is, you know, Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert in the regular season is awesome. Oh, he's a
Speaker 1: great defender and he's all this he's getting exposed in
Speaker 1: this series is like almost played off the court. I
Speaker 1: mean he goes long stretches like seven eight minutes, having
Speaker 1: zero impact offensively. I just I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of centers in the current NBA. Okay, so, Jason,
Speaker 1: I listened to that podcast as Handy, who was awesome.
Speaker 1: I listen anything you guys do, so yeah, listen, Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell is not the only guy playing tired and hurt.
Speaker 1: I think part of the Clippers defensive design is to
Speaker 1: wear Donovan out. He keeps attacking. Again, they're all driving
Speaker 1: a lot. He's the best driver they have. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: real only good drivers something with Mike being but commonly
Speaker 1: be an out and he's driving to the teeth of
Speaker 1: their defense too often. And it's absolutely wearing him down
Speaker 1: to defend Tylu a little bit too. And I'm not
Speaker 1: some kind of a a big fan of his. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to call balls and strikes. I've heard for a
Speaker 1: while now that both Kawhi and Paul George are nowhere
Speaker 1: close to one hundred percent in terms of their physicality
Speaker 1: so and their ability to move and everything. So I
Speaker 1: think that it's impacts him a little bit both in
Speaker 1: Talent Series and then he games one and two in
Speaker 1: the Utah Series for Gobert. I don't blame Rudy so much.
Speaker 1: He is what he is, right. He's not a guy
Speaker 1: who can throw the ball too. In the post, the
Speaker 1: Clippers have gone small Rudy. Rudy depends on the blender
Speaker 1: working to get you. He leaves the league in dunks
Speaker 1: every year. He depends on that lender for that to happen. Well,
Speaker 1: his last game. I think the Jazz do like two
Speaker 1: hundred and two pathes, maybe a little more than that,
Speaker 1: but they they want to throw two fifty two sixty
Speaker 1: two seventy or more, and they're not doing that, And
Speaker 1: I think Rudy needs that to be effective. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's played off the court defensively. He's done a
Speaker 1: great job against those Clipper's guards. He just thought he's
Speaker 1: not he's not gonna pitch a shutout against him, but
Speaker 1: he's not being exposed. If that's like people might think
Speaker 1: he's gotten the primeter pretty well. I I completely agree.
Speaker 1: And and oh yeah, by the way, the way from
Speaker 1: him to score is off screen roll. And if you
Speaker 1: don't have your point guard who's a screen roll point,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's going to change your ability to
Speaker 1: change the game offensively. Now would also change the Jazz
Speaker 1: defensively if you had Mike Conley in there. So there's
Speaker 1: there's a lot more to it than just they're playing small,
Speaker 1: the Jazz are playing big. Why can't he dominate inside?
Speaker 1: Like that's right, Like you're giving us the nuance and
Speaker 1: the reality to it. David Dorb joining us from True Hoop.
Speaker 1: Doug Golip Jason McIntyre in for Dan and the Dan Netts.
Speaker 1: I want to get to some kind of bigger storylines.
Speaker 1: You have two very very talented young players, and whether
Speaker 1: or not Luca is happy or not happy. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can be happy with another first round exit.
Speaker 1: But but also the change of the GM, change of
Speaker 1: the coach. What are your thoughts on what's really going
Speaker 1: on in Dallas? I mean that's the story, right, That's
Speaker 1: that's really what we're all talking about, is what besides
Speaker 1: the trade with Boston just now, we're not really sure
Speaker 1: what that's all about. Either. I think that I happen
Speaker 1: to know Harablos. I think he's I don't think he's
Speaker 1: it's fair to say that you can just blame one guy,
Speaker 1: there's there's a problem from the top. Nothing against Mark Cuban.
Speaker 1: I've done deals with Marky that He's always been great
Speaker 1: with me. He's a very interactive owner, I like most
Speaker 1: of these guys are, and and so you have to
Speaker 1: look at the top. You have to ask him what's
Speaker 1: going on in the culture your team. We may find
Speaker 1: out like if they if they are the right guy
Speaker 1: or girl wherever that is, and things get smooth and
Speaker 1: they win a playoff series, which Trey Young is about,
Speaker 1: and they'd win the second one for lucas one even one,
Speaker 1: which is another great narrative then though, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: But but right now, uh, you know, Luca, I'm sure
Speaker 1: has some power. You wouldn't think they would have let
Speaker 1: Rick leaves if or Don leaves if that's what Luca
Speaker 1: wanted has in terms of staying, and clearly he's okay
Speaker 1: with it. My guest says they've talked to Luca about it,
Speaker 1: just like Lebron as you guys know, some of our
Speaker 1: top players do have some power now and some leverage
Speaker 1: with what they want to see. So Luca, as GM,
Speaker 1: let's just see what you guys come up with, because
Speaker 1: he's a very eum. He's one of the best players
Speaker 1: of his age of all time for sure, Like there's
Speaker 1: no doubt what this guy can do. And and yet
Speaker 1: they've ever gone in the first round. Now they do
Speaker 1: play in the West, which is pretty dang hard. Let's
Speaker 1: be fair, Trey always in the West. I don't think
Speaker 1: you'd want to play a series yet either. But yeah, David,
Speaker 1: you make a great point about the young guys running
Speaker 1: the league, Trey Young gut Lloyd Pierce allegedly fired. They
Speaker 1: butted heads Luca don Jage versus Carlisle. There's some reports
Speaker 1: about that. And now the Zion Williamson stan Van Gundy
Speaker 1: issue in New Orleans. I think you can make a
Speaker 1: case that if New Orleans is going to do anything,
Speaker 1: they need to do something completely radical, make a huge splash,
Speaker 1: do something massively outside the box, because let's be real,
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson is probably leaving New Orleans at some point.
Speaker 1: That roster's not very good. I know Griffin has a
Speaker 1: lot of relationships, so the media doesn't go after him
Speaker 1: a lot. I just don't see a path to success
Speaker 1: for the for the Pelicans right now. What do you
Speaker 1: think happens with this coaching? Higher Oh, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna look big picture. I don't think you're wrong though.
Speaker 1: I think they've got They've got to make Zion happy.
Speaker 1: They have to think. They do seem to think out
Speaker 1: of the box. But the coaching the front office is
Speaker 1: very European centric in a good way. Trajan Langdon that
Speaker 1: the GM played in Moscow is very tied to what
Speaker 1: they do in Europe, as he should. The tactics they
Speaker 1: use on the court how to talk to European players.
Speaker 1: They're just a little different than are our NBA guy,
Speaker 1: our American guys. I think Stand During the season, I
Speaker 1: was already hearing rumblings inside that he just wasn't reaching
Speaker 1: the players I had. I had a very very powerful
Speaker 1: insider telling me to day he got higher, he'll never
Speaker 1: last more than one season. And this guy, this guy
Speaker 1: was right, and I love Stand. Uh, it's just not
Speaker 1: a it wasn't a good fit, Zion. It's gonna have
Speaker 1: to you better check with him. Hey who he needs
Speaker 1: to have ownership a little bit into this latching nothing
Speaker 1: he knows anybody, but checking with him, CLI feels about things.
Speaker 1: This is how we want to play. You know. They
Speaker 1: drafted Jackson Hayes, which I thought they should have done.
Speaker 1: In fact, I wrote about it before even the draft.
Speaker 1: They should trade down and drafted him. He's the most
Speaker 1: athletic center in the league. They've got Dian wins In,
Speaker 1: the most athletic power forward in the league. Their point
Speaker 1: guard Lewis Malabama's super fast and quick and talented. Brandon
Speaker 1: Ingram isn't the most athletic three, but he's very skilled
Speaker 1: and talented as a score and super long. They can
Speaker 1: really go up tempo, play ten eleven guys the game
Speaker 1: pressing trapped. That's a little different. We don't see a
Speaker 1: lot of them league, and I think we should. It
Speaker 1: also limits science minutes a little bit because you'll play
Speaker 1: more guys, almost like a hockey rotation. They'll still get
Speaker 1: plenty of minutes, but he won't overdo it. Probably good
Speaker 1: for him, and so I would talk. I would talk
Speaker 1: to people that can play that way unless di and
Speaker 1: be your primary ball handler as a four. That's a
Speaker 1: unique team and I can win a lot of games.
Speaker 1: I think David, I know David really well. I think
Speaker 1: that they're they're going to talk to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: a man and women and come up with a good plan,
Speaker 1: not just with the head coach, but with the staff itself.
Speaker 1: Or I agree with you complete the Jays. I think
Speaker 1: Zion will be gone up on two with the right
Speaker 1: way within X number of years, two, three, four years,
Speaker 1: he's gone Um, okay, let's let's there is an elephant
Speaker 1: in the room that you've made sure to point out
Speaker 1: that it might not be a man who gets one
Speaker 1: of these jobs. Look, I believe that that what we're
Speaker 1: going to usher in is an era of a younger,
Speaker 1: more relatable coach, right, And whether it's Chauncey or Sam
Speaker 1: Cassell in the Tylo model, maybe Jamal Moseley in Dallas,
Speaker 1: guys that have played you know, obviously Jamal didn't play
Speaker 1: in the NBA, but they everybody else? Did? I think
Speaker 1: that's Sarah? Do you think that whether it's Teresa Witherspoon
Speaker 1: or Becky Hammond that they played but not in the
Speaker 1: NBA and being being the first women, do you think
Speaker 1: that will because because I'll ask the question, then we'll
Speaker 1: have a little do you think that actually happens this year?
Speaker 1: Right now, we have seven jobs open, and if the
Speaker 1: Bucks will win Game seven, I don't know if keeps
Speaker 1: his job in how we at eight? So I thought,
Speaker 1: we think David Villa will probably keep his job in
Speaker 1: Atlanta or or take one of these other jobs that
Speaker 1: are open. Because I think right now coach McMillan's pretty
Speaker 1: much in demand. It's gonna it's gonna happen soon, Dug,
Speaker 1: and it should. And I want to say this publicly
Speaker 1: as someone who's coached over eight NBA players and you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred plush times that have played in Europe whatever.
Speaker 1: The most most young people in this world are used
Speaker 1: to a strong feminine voice, female voice in their life, mom, grandma,
Speaker 1: aunt whatever. They're just so used to take in orders
Speaker 1: from the people in their lives every day. That are
Speaker 1: the adults when they're kids growing up playing the game
Speaker 1: au tournments and everywhere else, you know, going AU tournaments.
Speaker 1: How loud the women are. They're right there with their husbands,
Speaker 1: with the fathers, whatever. These women know the game just
Speaker 1: as good as any man does. And I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you brought the point of a play in the league, Doug,
Speaker 1: because I hate the fact that you have to have
Speaker 1: played in the NBA. It's unfair. It's unfair. I don't
Speaker 1: care what the card, your skinners, or where you're from.
Speaker 1: If you can coach the game, you can coach the
Speaker 1: game and teach the game. And I do think there
Speaker 1: should be an empasis on teaching the game, not just
Speaker 1: extino strategy, but developing these players understanding. We've had these guys,
Speaker 1: you know, these fellas them talking about the anxiety they
Speaker 1: feel because of social media, which I'm not denigrating social media,
Speaker 1: it's a reality. So they feel pressure that former athletes
Speaker 1: never used to feel. It's a different world. And so
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to talk to these guys.
Speaker 1: You don't just wanted to rely on your sports psychologists
Speaker 1: as a coach. You need to be the sports psychologists too,
Speaker 1: And so finding people that can talk to all these players,
Speaker 1: not just the young players, all the players. It's a
Speaker 1: it's not a skill set unique to men, nor a
Speaker 1: skill set unique to men that played in the NBA.
Speaker 1: They just need to know the game and know people.
Speaker 1: And I hope that we have an owner's soon enough
Speaker 1: recognizing because when they do, they recognize that, it'll offer
Speaker 1: up a whole other level of very talented people that
Speaker 1: can make all players that all leak better. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a really good point. I had not thought of that,
Speaker 1: but that is an extremely good point. I would the counter.
Speaker 1: The counter to that is, I think it takes the
Speaker 1: very specific job because there's two parts to it. One like,
Speaker 1: it sounds great, but will will they actually listen? Okay?
Speaker 1: And in order to listen, like Becky, Ammon's best chance
Speaker 1: of success to San Antonio because the organization has her back.
Speaker 1: Otherwise she goes into organization where nobody knows it and
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a headline higher. But then
Speaker 1: the question for all of these gms is, Okay, you
Speaker 1: can hire him, but can you fire him? Right? If
Speaker 1: you fire, you know you fire Lloyd in Atlanta was
Speaker 1: like a year and a half in whatever however long
Speaker 1: it was in it's not that big, not that big
Speaker 1: a deal, right, you fire stand one year and not
Speaker 1: that big a deal nine months? Right, but you fire
Speaker 1: the first ever Women's that if you like, this ain't working, right,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be saddled with Hey, I can't
Speaker 1: fire her because it's gonna be a pr disaster because
Speaker 1: what happens is, well, she wasn't fired. She's fired because
Speaker 1: she's a woman. Like no, no, she's fired because they
Speaker 1: didn't they couldn't relate to her. It didn't work. I
Speaker 1: think those are the two questions that we we we
Speaker 1: have not yet had answer. And then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we hired a woman. That's why Zion left in two
Speaker 1: years and didn't sign as rookie qualified. But you can't
Speaker 1: think of it like that. That that that's a negative
Speaker 1: thought line. That's that's the reality. It's it's a reality
Speaker 1: thought It's both it's negative end. It's reality. I think
Speaker 1: the process a big part of the right. Think wasn't wrong.
Speaker 1: If your process is going the wrong way, you need
Speaker 1: to make a change. If you're if you're heading the
Speaker 1: right way, you don't and you've gotta just you gotta
Speaker 1: have integrity right and your decision making as as an
Speaker 1: executive just like you do as a parent. Yes, have
Speaker 1: integrity to your decision making and not not go to emotion,
Speaker 1: not worry about optics. I do. I do think you're right, dog.
Speaker 1: It does take a GM and if it did, like
Speaker 1: Sam Hinkey, I'm sorry. Sam Presticton hire wherever he wants.
Speaker 1: He's good and not that they're changing anything there. But
Speaker 1: you know someone that pat Riley too, someone and its
Speaker 1: fulster is not going anywhere. But that's why those guys
Speaker 1: are such good coaches, and a lot of times it's
Speaker 1: because they're playing for someone that knows that they're they're
Speaker 1: there for long haul. I think we're ready for it.
Speaker 1: I just hope some owner pulls the trigger and David
Speaker 1: Thorpe true hoop at coach Thorpe. You want to follow
Speaker 1: him on Twitter, David, thanks so much to join us.
Speaker 1: Think all right, hawks or Clippers. Were you going to
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Speaker 1: get to Let's get to tonight's games. Okay, Atlanta, I
Speaker 1: can guess by the sound of your voice you're taking Atlanta. Ta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm rooting Atlanta because, Doug, you know, in this industry,
Speaker 1: reroot for chaos and storylines. Philadelphia losing puts Doc Rivers
Speaker 1: on the hot seat maybe and puts Ben Simmons squarely
Speaker 1: in the trade crosshairs. And Doug, you know what we
Speaker 1: do in this industry so fun, right, But when we
Speaker 1: preview a game, if we spend like two hours previewing
Speaker 1: one game, the shelf life for the podcast and our
Speaker 1: takes is literally like eight hours or whatever. The game
Speaker 1: ends and it's done, but we like to spin it
Speaker 1: forward with if you boot Doc Rivers, can Darryl Morey
Speaker 1: bring in X? What about Ben Simmons going here there?
Speaker 1: Or you know? That can last for weeks and you
Speaker 1: can really milk that. So I like storylines and chaos.
Speaker 1: So I'm rooting Atlanta, But I do believe Philadelphia wins tonight.
Speaker 1: I just want to note in the last hour, Utah
Speaker 1: was favored by one, it went up to two, and
Speaker 1: now I'm seeing two and a half. I wonder if
Speaker 1: somebody knows something about Mike conley status for tonight, will
Speaker 1: he play? I don't. I personally don't know, but the
Speaker 1: line movement tells me something is up. You think Conley's
Speaker 1: gonna play? It's possible. I mean he's quite he's listed
Speaker 1: as questionable. Yeah, I just don't. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that I it's one of those. Normally you'd say that
Speaker 1: makes them better, but considering he hasn't played well, your
Speaker 1: pick and roll thought makes Rudy Gobert way way way
Speaker 1: more impactful. And remember their bench, as you said, was thin.
Speaker 1: They're going to the kid from Yale, me A Oney,
Speaker 1: who was a really good college player, but he's out
Speaker 1: of his element here in the NBA playoffs against like
Speaker 1: Paul George on the wing and even Reggie Jackson. By
Speaker 1: the way, Doc Rivers making eight million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: you have them, you have five year guaranteed contract. If
Speaker 1: you have them paying thirty two million for him to
Speaker 1: not coach anymore after one season, I don't see that.
Speaker 1: I do think. I think the Sixers win. I think
Speaker 1: the Jazz win tonight. Oh that's spicy, not really. I
Speaker 1: mean they're the two better teams, as the rosters are
Speaker 1: currently comprised, I would love to see the Clippers, and look,
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers are have to be cursed. I
Speaker 1: think that's the only possible expect as it has to be.
Speaker 1: And then Paul, of course playoff PA shows up and
Speaker 1: where he's had previous nightmares in Utah, he plays out
Speaker 1: of his mind the other night. I would I would
Speaker 1: like to see the Clippers win because I just feel
Speaker 1: terrible for them figuring out how to win together and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden Kawhi goes down. But I
Speaker 1: do think that the Jazz are really good. And the
Speaker 1: problem with the more games you play against the Jazz.
Speaker 1: They had Game two, they made twenty threes. You feel
Speaker 1: like they have one more game in them where they're
Speaker 1: gonna make everything they throw, and then when they do that,
Speaker 1: it's just very hard to beat him. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: is anybody live in a better life right now than
Speaker 1: Devin Booker. He's at the top of his game, He's
Speaker 1: in the conference finals. He has a vintage car collection
Speaker 1: that has Jay Leno jealous. He's dating Kendall Jenner, and
Speaker 1: he just made buddies with the guy from the Sons
Speaker 1: fan who beat the crap out of that Utah fan
Speaker 1: and said sons in four. Um, and I should say
Speaker 1: beat the crap out of while defending himself. But like,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker's on top of the world right now. He
Speaker 1: is a such a star and really living in the
Speaker 1: moment and crushing it. So shout out to Devin Booker
Speaker 1: wherever you are. Yeah, um, okay, I don't even know
Speaker 1: where that that. I mean. The interesting thing is the
Speaker 1: more this thing goes, the more it helps Chris Paul
Speaker 1: get through COVID protocols, right, which is just oh my god, Chris,
Speaker 1: Poor Chris Paul. The guy's hurt. Every year in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: something unlucky happens to him, and now he somehow test
Speaker 1: positive for COVID. Um. Well, remember what's what's crazy about
Speaker 1: it was he went in the stands after they got
Speaker 1: after they won the series. You're like, is that where
Speaker 1: he got it? Did he get it previously? Was vaccinated previously? Um?
Speaker 1: That that that part, that part is crazy all right.
Speaker 1: For the record, For the record, you're taking Hawks, No,
Speaker 1: I bet I'm about to bet the six if I
Speaker 1: can get three. Still, it's moving to three and a half,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm gonna I'm gonna bet the jazz
Speaker 1: just because I'm an idiot. Okay, so well, no, I
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