WEBVTT - 06/18/21 DPS Hour 3 David Thorpe 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.400 Sports Radio. Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. There's 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.119 still's time to save on your Trigger Wood fire grill 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.840 during the Father's Day sale. Go to Trigger dot com 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.599 slash dp show to score a free Ultimate Grill bundle 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.880 worth one hundred and fifty dollars with the purchase of 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.640 select grills, or save one hundred dollars unselect grills at 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.240 your local dealer. Welcome in, Happy Meet Friday to you. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.920 I um, Jason, you don't know this. I actually just 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.200 disemboweled some ribs that I made last night, just only 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.720 because it's Meet Friday. That because that's that's that's how 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.720 I that's how I roll gillow protein early in the morning. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.920 Uh Father's Day? Have you? Have you made it clear 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.479 what you want for Father's Day? Uh? No, I'm not 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.600 a huge like present kind of guy, Doug, I don't 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.080 know idea I want? You want space for Father's Day? No? No, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.960 I do. I definitely don't want space. I love hanging 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.319 with the kids and the wife. We are actually going 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.600 out of town here shortly for a trip. School year 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.120 just ended on Thursday. I'm sure the rest of America 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.840 has been out of school for a while. But it's 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.039 a good feeling to have finished the school year from 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.200 hell as I'm sure everybody put when put had to 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.480 deal with And uh, you know we're gonna celebrate with 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.240 a little getaway and um, you know then the summer away. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.679 Your life is kind of uh, your life is in 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.319 between getaways. Like that's you got. You got a good 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.560 thing going with your with the with the volume of 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.040 getaways that you're able to pull off. I'm I'm impressed 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.000 vollowing you on social media hashtag hashtag blessed right. I mean, listen, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:35.760 you get one life, Doug. You got to enjoy it, 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.840 have a lot of fun. And uh, you know it's 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.240 weird you get out to California. I live my entire 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.120 life basically in the Northeast. I spend a summer in 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.360 North Carolina at an internship. But um, and you get 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.160 out to LA and it's just so different. Man, Like 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.040 the East. You know this, it's nine to five, it's work, work, work, um, 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.200 and out here in the West it's like, hey, we're 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.320 gonna get a volleyball game at ten am, guys on 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.440 a Tuesday. Are you in hell? Yeah? I'm in you know, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.840 like a pickup basketball at noon on Fridays or whatever. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.240 People are always doing stuff. It's like enjoy life first 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.480 out here and second his work. A lot of people 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.880 work for themselves, they start businesses and I don't know, man, 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.600 I'm I'm really living the dream out here. That's Jason 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.640 McIntyre living the California dream. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:28.440 the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so um, 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:34.120 there's like just a ridiculous number of NBA stories. Usually 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.880 the NBA drama is the offseason, but we have We 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.040 have the Bucks beating the Nets last night. That series 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.079 is easy even at three tonight. We have a doubleheader, right, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.160 we got the Hawks with the three games of two 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.400 series league playing at home, trying to eliminate the Sixers. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.560 The Clippers were the three games the two league trying 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.040 to eliminate the Utah Jazz. Then, of course you have 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.160 the drama in Dallas yesterday, Rick Carlisle leaves this day 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.640 after Donnie Nelson was fired, this day after there's a 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.040 tell all article about a shadow gm and dysfunction within 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.079 the team. Today, Kemba Walker was traded for Al Horford, Like, wait, 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:17.560 what al Horford's where Kemba traded to Oklahoma City. The 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.280 Celtics save some money, bring back al Horford, get Moses Brown, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.560 get some interior helps, some leadership. We'll see how that 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.720 goes over. Right, Then, of course you have all the 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:33.200 other coaches and Zion's family unhappy. It sounds like his 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:38.080 stepdad right unhappy with the progress of the Pelicans. All right, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.640 So I just I give it to you, Jason, What 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.320 do you think is the most interesting. I'm fascinated by 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.320 the Luca Dontchich situation in Dallas, But I feel like 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.640 we need to go back to the seventy six ers, 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.640 if you don't mind, because we seem to greatly disagree 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.560 on the doc rivers, Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris, triumvirate, if 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.920 you will. I don't know, Doug, the hatred for Ben 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:06.000 Simmons is really crazy because remember the seventy six ers 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.360 worked fine all season. They were they number one seed 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.880 in the East, despite and Bead getting injured again, he 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:17.320 was an MVP candidate. But Doug, is where are we 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.400 on Ben Simmons? Like do you think you can build 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.200 a championship contender around him? Or is he just a 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.320 strictly a number two or I don't know, maybe he's 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.160 a number three. I think he can be a part 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.440 of a championship team. Look, they run into the classic 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.440 problem of you know, the best part about Ben Simmons 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.479 is when he has the ball in his hands. The 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.159 problem when he has the ball in his hands is 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.800 you don't have to guard him. So whereas look, Janice 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.560 is limited in terms of his ability to shoot, but 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.400 the more space you give him, he takes up that space. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.640 And he's so long, and he has such advanced footwork, 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.520 and I think he gets away with traveling a bunch 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.240 as well, but he still finds and his body is 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.960 so big and and he gets an angle on you, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.320 he can still get by you. It's he starts playing 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.360 downhill and it's really really difficult. That's not really how 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.560 Ben plays, right Ben And this this was told me 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.320 when he was at LSU. It's like everybody's like, wow, 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.599 he's the next this next time. His idol was lamar Odom. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.599 Growing when he was a kid, he was lamar Odom. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.720 And that may be why he shoots left handed, because 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.159 you know, he's right handed and everything else, everything inside 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.920 the key is right handed. He's right right handed in 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.520 real life. He's the opposite like Russell Westbrook is left 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.520 hand in real life. Lebron his left hand in real 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.960 life and they play basketball right handed. But I think 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.440 that's why he shoots left handed. And a long time 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.600 ago people would say, why don't you just switch him 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.400 to right hand? He can't shoot left handed, and he won't. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.279 He won't switch, can you? Yeah, but it's tricky and 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:54.080 I don't I don't believe it totally works with EMBIID. 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:55.839 I think you can make it sort of work, but 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.279 you have to have everything has to be perfect. And 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.440 then when you factor in all day to pay to 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.039 Tobias Harris and you know what they're paying him, that 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.920 they just didn't have the money to spread around to 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.280 the bench, and the bench suffered. And you know there's 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.920 a limit to how much shooting, Like you can have 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.479 one Seth Curry like mad he can really shoot, Like, well, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.279 why is Seth Curry available? Because he can't guard, But 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:18.960 you can hide that when you have him bead and 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.800 you have Simmons, you take one of them all off 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.880 the court and now all a sudden, your defense changes 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.600 a great deal. So it's it's a tricky mix, but 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.320 I'm not selling all my stock. But man, the shooting 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.240 is not getting better, and the free throw yips are 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.360 bad and getting worse, and it gets to a point 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.440 to where you don't have to guard a guy, and 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.720 it's it's a hard way. You gotta be so good 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:43.960 if you're playing four on five, Yeah, you gotta be 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.080 so good at everything else. It's it's weird. It's a 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.960 wing league, a shooting league, and Ben Simmons is an 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.680 awesome wing, but he can't shoot. You're you're one hundred 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.600 percent right. I would say the Sixers are using it. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.320 He's just a clunky fit with Joe el Embiid because 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.800 they're both big and take up a lot of space 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.120 in the lane, and Ben Simmons, as you said, can't shoot. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.440 I just feel like if you were to build around 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.440 him as your five, right, like a point center Draymond 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.320 Green with a death lineup in Golden State, if you 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.880 can make Ben Simmons, you're five, but he can handle point, 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.320 take pressure off the lead guard, Like I came up 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.600 a trade of Ben Simmons. Okay, we'll just work with 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.800 me here. Golden State Warriors say, man, we've got Draymond 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.640 who can defend? What if we had two Draymonds, meaning 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.320 a Ben Simmons deal, We give up Kelly u Bray, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.440 that Minnesota pick, we shipp Weissman in to a third 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.440 team in a wacky deal, and we try to make 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.240 that work with shooting Ben Simmons and Draymond Green. We 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.880 have defense on the back line, switch on everything, And 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.880 I don't know could something like that work? Golden State 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.600 is creative. They love to take chances. Can we can we? 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.680 Can we just do this? Can we just this? Can 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.000 we just get through the playoffs this year? You're already 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.960 trading Ben Simmons. They had a twenty six point lead 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.800 fourteen minutes to go to me. The story of tonight is, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.320 you know, I think you find out if if? Do 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.240 you know, Doc Rivers, this is coaching. Can you get 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.160 the guys to the magic level and figured out and 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.760 to to win tonight? You're the better team? Hey? You are? 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.120 You're You're the better team. Lou Williams went a little crazy. Obviously, 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.160 Trey Young did a great job getting the free throw line, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.840 but the bench was really what undid you? But he 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.400 felt like he had to go to his bench because 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.120 the starters were gassed. I thought you should have just 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.920 kept the foot on the accelerator and put him away. 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.560 But I twenty six points usually is putting a team away. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.599 To me, that's what the story of the night is. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.199 And then I gotta tell you, if the Clippers can 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.240 win tonight, that's they get past the second round for 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:49.680 the first time in franchise history without Kawhi Leonard against 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.559 the number one seed in the West. And you can 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.480 tell me that Donovan Mitchell he's got a tweaked ankle. Uh, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.920 he's still let's go ninety five percent of Donovan Mitchell. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.400 I don't know about I mean, he's not the guy 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.079 he was in the first two games, that's clear. I 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:04.840 mean he got injured in Game three and left with 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.000 six minutes left and never returned. I know they were 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:11.280 down like fifteen or whatever. That he missed sixteen games. Yeah, man, yeah, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.360 I don't think he's ninety five percent. I think like 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.360 more like sixty five percent. I mean, you watch Donovan 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.720 Mitchell early, You're like, wait a second, it's the first 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.720 it's the third quarter, and Donovan Mitchell's attempted eight shots. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.440 This is not the guy who had you know, thirty 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.120 plus in like six straight games. This just is not 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.679 the same guy, all right, So what happens to night? 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.280 I don't know. I just I don't want to give 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:39.520 the Clippers any shine um. You know, you and I 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.599 can go at other fifteen rounds on tylu U No 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.960 Kawhi Leonard and they advanced with Reggie Jackson leading the 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.680 way and Morris and Terrence Man off the bench like 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.360 Nick buttoom his corpse has been exhumed and he's like 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.040 playing spirited defensive basketball. That's a hell of a run 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.800 for the Clippers. Man. I still don't think I get by. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.640 I think what people are missing on the Clippers. And look, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.520 I think they got that one game bump playing without him. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.920 I don't know if they can win another game against 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.600 against the Jazz team. We'd also point out that the 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:16.160 Jazz this is much like much like your sixers take 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.360 like you just can't fall back on the regular season 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:24.240 like the regular season is and no, but it's it 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.319 doesn't really, It's it's very hard to draw a correlation 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.760 between what the regular season because the postseason is just different. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.520 The level of intensity is different, the officiating is different, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.360 and so you can get away with taking more threes 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.839 than anybody in the regular season at time in the postseason, 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.520 I do think fatigue and pressure play a factor, and 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.559 it's harder to live by the three. Somebody smart in 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.400 the league told me, Doug that the regular season really 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.160 shows off your strengths and the playoffs really show off 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.120 your weaker weaknesses. That's good. And you know when I 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.680 heard that, I was like, Okay, Ben Simmons weakness. Well, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.040 it's become glaring in the fourth quarter of one game. Hey, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.240 by the way, Yannis, I don't think the stat's been 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.199 mentioned enough. Did not take a three pointer last night? 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.200 Did you notice that? He heard? Finally, Hey, Yanna, stop 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.079 with the pull up threes, bro, you stink at three pointers. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.880 You're shooting like nine percent. Take it inside. Take James 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.720 Harden to pound town and just destroy him on the block. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:25.480 And you know, Janna's finally, after multiple postseasons of failing, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.080 is starting to I mean, if he goes down to 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.880 the block in Game seven, they don't have an answer. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.600 Was they've shelved Claxton, you know who who looked good 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.080 in the regular season. The playoffs are really showing teams weaknesses, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.400 and if you can get over those weaknesses. Whether you know, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.600 Joe Harris looks awesome in the regular season, I mean, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.560 where is he He's on a milk carton in the playoffs, Doug, Well, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.320 it's it's the level. Remember when you have when you 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:57.360 have James Harden and you have Kyrie Irving and you 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.880 have Kevin Durant, you have to actually put a guy 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.439 in a half on each one of those guys. And 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:09.120 so when you're the fifth option then and Joe Harris 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.400 is moving and spotting, he's You're getting all clean looks. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.960 Now you you don't have to pay nearly as much 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.600 attention to James Harden, you don't have to pay nearly 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.840 as much attention to whomever else the nets are thrown 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.400 out there instead of Kyrie Irving. Now you can pay 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.960 special attention to Joe Harris, and the looks are different. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.360 It's a it's a it's a different role. It's like 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.839 it's like trying to explain to somebody, all right, look, 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.680 you've been a number two wide receiver your whole life. 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.400 Now let's move you over to number one. Like it's 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.240 it's different. By the way, another quick note on strength 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.560 and weakness regular season. Oh, Rudy Gobert's the Jazz MVP. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.599 He's so good defensively. The Jazz are third in the 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.720 league in defensive efficiency. Rudy Gobert in the playoffs? Do 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.960 we need to pull him for more? More? George's Niyang 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.200 or Jordan Clarkson for offense. I'm gonna point out the 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.240 defensive efficiency stats in the league. The Lakers were number one. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.079 Anthony Davis bounced, they lost six ers or two. They're 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.840 about to be eliminated. Utah was three. New York was 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.960 tied for third, Golden State Memphis. All the top defensive 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:18.320 teams either gone or about to be toasted. Brooklyn, by 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.200 the way, was number one, The Clippers were number two 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.640 in offense, and Phoenix was number four in offense. I mean, Doug, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.000 it's an offensive league, now, well, yeah, it's it's definitely. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.080 It's definitely changed a great deal. And then and the 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.360 spacing is and the skill of the shot making. But 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.400 a team that was putrid on defense outstanding on offense 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.920 is the Dallas Mavericks. They get eliminated. The story comes 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.520 out that Luca isn't happy with the Shadow. GM was 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.320 close to Donnie Nelson, who drafted him, although some of 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:52.200 Donnie's more recent selections haven't haven't worked out as well. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:57.160 So you think that Luca would scare away potential coaching candidate. No, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.480 you want to coach Luca. It's this Mark Cuban, Harla Bob. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.199 And by the way, a lot of people who tuning 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.880 in have no idea who this harlabab character is. He 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.560 was allegedly an amazing NBA gambler back in the day. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.440 He put together some algorithm that helped him win a 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.800 lot of money gambling on the NBA. So Mark Cuban says, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.200 I like outside the box, guys, I'm gonna bring in 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.440 this NBA gambler. Like this guy have no experience in 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.720 any front office in any NBA capacity. He's just an 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:31.320 NBA gambler. And Cuban apparently loves him, and the rest 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.000 of the front office does not. Rick Carlisle did not, 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.680 And now Mark Cuban basically has a shadow GM his 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.640 guy Harla Bob. Now, Doug, you, you and I go 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.880 to some Laker games, right? I like to go two 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:47.080 hours before, hang out courtside, watch up close, like Luca 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.640 Dodge just three feet away from me working out, and 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.440 Doug One of the last games before the pandemic hit 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.000 was that I went to was MAVs Lakers. I wanted 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.640 to see Luca up close. You know, you see trainers 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.800 that you know, court side, you talk to people, and 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.040 I kept noticing a guy on the mav sideline who 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.640 had like a flotilla of people around him, handing him papers, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.880 talking to him. And I asked somebody like, who is 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.200 this guy? He seems like the most important guy out 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.480 here besides Luca. Oh that's Harla Bob. And the guy 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.000 really carried himself like he was running things, Doug, and 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.760 I was stunned. I'm like, wait, this is the former 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:25.760 gambler and he's basically running the MAVs sideline like during warmups. Interesting, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.560 and you could tell he has all the power, Doug. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.840 If I'm a coach, you're basically going in, here's what 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.120 you're going to do. We're gonna tell you what to do, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.560 and you have to deal with Luca and oh yeah, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.280 the shadow of billionaire Mark Cuban is at every game. Dog, 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.200 that is a lot of pressure and you're not gonna 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.240 have a lot of say on the sideline. Well, I 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.360 think it depends who the GM is you know, you 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.200 gotta have a guy who has your back. The GM 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.320 will will hire his next coach. There's some talks that 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.360 it'll be Jamal Mosley. He was kind of a you know, 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.800 company guy, and he's been there and very well respected. 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.760 I think that you're gonna end up finding out that 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.000 most of the coaching hires, not all like I think 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.960 Terry Stotts. Maybe Carlisle gets another shot made with Portland. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.800 But I would say that most of these guys who 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.840 get hired will be in there about forty years old, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.880 and they played recently and they've been on a bench. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.760 And Sam Cassell's the Jamal Mosley's the Chauncey Billips of 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.360 the world. I think that's the way the league is trending. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.880 And some of it is for control from the front office. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.120 Some of it is for relatability, Like I even think 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.320 the boss of the Celtics, like nobody thinks Brad Stevens 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.160 not a brilliant basketball coach, but the construct of that 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.840 staff and the age of the players, and at some 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.640 point they just tune out something that they don't feel 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.800 like you've actually ever done before, fair or unfair, no 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.320 matter how successful Brad has been in respected he is 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.640 around the league and in coaching circles. It felt like 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.040 he wasn't getting that same level of respect. Contrarian question 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.280 for you, Doug, Rick Carlile, Yes, he's sixty one. Is 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.400 his firing a bit of an overreaction to two straight 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.200 playoff losses to the Clippers, who are one of the 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.520 best teams in the league with two superstars on the roster. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.280 They pushed them to six last year, way ahead of schedule, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.880 and they pushed them to seven this year. If they're 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.960 facing anybody else in the West, you know, Denver, Portland, 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.080 whatever the MAVs are advancing, we know that. Is this 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:25.639 an overreaction to losing to the Clippers? No, No, I 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.160 would say, I look, I think he lost the series 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.760 when they were up. What was the score they were up. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.560 I think they're up nineteen in the first quarter, thirty 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.159 to eleven in Game three. They're up nineteen in the 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:43.400 first quarter of Game three. Now, in fairness to Rick Carlisle, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.280 taking Luca out with you know, between four and five 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.480 minutes to go in the first quarter. That's what they do, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.439 that's how they that's their rotation. The difference is you 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.920 got a chance, you put a team down twenty five 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.000 or thirty, and the Clippers were not ready to play 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.600 that night. The arena was still half empty at the time. 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.200 It was in Dallas. But the thing is over over 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.880 if you can win that game. It was a three 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.199 or four point game. But at the end of the 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.000 first quarter that's when they lost the series, when you 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.920 took your foot off the neck of the Clippers and 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.399 they and they were and they reacted. So I think 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.840 I think it's a it's probably a bunch of things. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.160 But he leaves with two years left in a deal. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.080 My guess is that he'd had enough, they'd had enough 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:33.280 of him. He probably has something lined up, and you know, 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.000 you fired Don Nelson. I'm not really down with some 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.040 guy I don't know or respect, you know, running this thing. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.959 Just and ya one more thing on the maps. So 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.040 Mark Cuban and his shadow GM Harlabab also, according to 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.879 an athletic story, just went rogue in the draft and 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.400 took Josh Green eighteen. And all the scouts are looking 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.120 at each other like, wait a second, what the heck 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.160 did we just do. I'm not going to kill him 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.119 for the Josh Green pick. He's a young player. We 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.560 didn't see much. But the guy who went after him, 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.359 Sadiq Bay Yeah, was first team All Rookie. Uh Tyrese 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.040 Maxie went twenty one. He had very good flashes with 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.000 the Sixers. Emmanuel quickly was an impact player for the Knicks. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.080 He went twenty fifth. Like I mean shadow GM guy 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.000 and Cuban apparently this Josh greenpick, like they bricked that. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:25.040 And they also took uh Tyrell Terry at one. He 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.960 can't play. He didn't. I didn't. I don't. That seems strong. 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.719 He's not good at all. I struggle to see him 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.720 being an NBA player and NBA, you know, in the 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.800 first round you miss on too, I got I didn't. 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.040 I didn't see the Tyrell Terry pick at all. He 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.960 can really he can really shoot, but like he's not 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.400 better than Jalen Brunson, you know, and he's not he's not. 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.840 Like I didn't, I didn't get it. I didn't. It 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.000 would be honest. This MAV's roster is not very good 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.760 outside of Luca, like porzingis. You gotta ship him out 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.240 of town if you can get Orlando or somebody to 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.800 bite on. Hey, no free agent stars gonna there. Hey, 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.240 we think this guy stinks. You take it, take damage 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.880 good support. Zikis you're selling low, so you're not gonna 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.359 get a ton, But I think you gotta do You 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.720 cannot trot the same roster out next year, Doug. We 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.280 agree on that, right, you just can't do that. No, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.080 but nobody's trotting the same roster out next year. The 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.600 Lakers when the championship they had four players come back, Like, 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.239 that's not the reality of it. The question is how 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.080 do you how do you make up the big The 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:28.080 issue they're gonna run into is, obviously you want to 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.920 build around Luca, but Lucas so completely dominates the basketball. 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.399 It's like, all right, so am I just you were 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.640 just gonna get guys that catch and shoot, like are 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.040 we gonna get to play with the ball a little 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.719 bit too? And Luca and guard at all? I mean, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.320 he's he makes James Harden look like like Michael Cooper's 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:53.159 worst defensive player Luca or Damian Lillard. And Luca's got 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:54.800 a bigger body so he can at least put a 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.640 body on a guy. I would say Luca's a worst defender, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.600 but a but a bigger body. Okay, So yeah, it's 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.840 not it's It's not good all right? Coming up next, Um, 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:09.280 do the Bucks suddenly have control over the nets? And 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:14.560 what does that mean to the future of the Eastern Conference? 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.159