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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Friday edition to Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Hyundai Texans Radio studio, John Harris alongside the Voice

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Speaker 2: of the Texans, Mark vandermir. Hopefully you're having a beautiful

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Speaker 2: Friday as we are one week away from the Texans

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Speaker 2: making a pick in the NFL Draft. They will be

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Speaker 2: the second to last team to make a pick if

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Speaker 2: if if they do indeed stay at pick number forty two,

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Speaker 2: because there is that caveat that you always have to

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Speaker 2: bring to the party if they stay at forty two, Mark,

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Speaker 2: do you believe he's staying at forty two?

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Speaker 3: No more likely to happen, not staying at forty two.

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Speaker 3: At forty two, come on, we're gonna get there late Friday.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start hypothesizing who Nick will target because guys

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Speaker 3: are gonna drop. It always happens every year and it

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Speaker 3: pushes other guys down whatever happens with the draft. So

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Speaker 3: he's going to target somebody. You and I talked about

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Speaker 3: this last night. We got the vibe that he's certainly

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Speaker 3: open to jumping back into the first round if need be,

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Speaker 3: or if he sees a player that he feels and

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Speaker 3: the Texans Field can really help them this year, but

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Speaker 3: early second round Johnny all day Friday, the speculation, all

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Speaker 3: the guys on sport Radio sixtent, who's Nick gonna jump

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Speaker 3: up and target here? Or who are you rooting for

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Speaker 3: to fall to the Texans at forty two. I don't

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Speaker 3: see him staying there, but he might. And Sean was

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Speaker 3: saying this morning, Hey, if nix days, it's fine. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: forty two and fifty nine great sounds good to me.

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Speaker 3: But you know Nick, he's probably gonna move at least one,

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Speaker 3: if not both, of those picks.

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Speaker 2: If I were Nick on Thursday night, I would just

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Speaker 2: call all my buddies that are gms, like Austin fort Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he knows him.

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Speaker 1: Adam Peters, I know he knows him.

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Speaker 2: Like, just call those guys like when they're on the

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Speaker 2: clock and just say, hey, you want to trade your.

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Speaker 1: Pick, just just to mess with them little bit.

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Speaker 3: Now you stop calling me.

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Speaker 1: I'm working.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: John Dorsey does that the Ballard every year. He like

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Speaker 2: when he's on the clock and Ballard waits for it

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Speaker 2: and he gets it and he's like, hi, Johnny and

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Speaker 2: he hangs up on it.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna do it? Again this year. Are you

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Speaker 3: gonna watch Draft Day?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the Draft?

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 3: It's so bad. It's so good. You know, the more

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Speaker 3: I watch it, the more it's a great B movie.

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Speaker 3: Oh the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Oh totally. And that's the way you have to take it.

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Speaker 2: You can't take it with this whole serious thought process.

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Speaker 2: Now used to have to take it as it's a

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Speaker 2: fun it's a fun movie.

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Speaker 3: It's like doctors watching medical shows. It's not like that

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 1: That term is totally made up. Yeah, so yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's it's also what what the draft the months before

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Speaker 3: the draft look like, but they boil it down in

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Speaker 3: a one day. Yeah, right, because there's no way. I've

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Speaker 3: always pointed this out. Costs like who is the number

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Speaker 3: four pick?

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Speaker 4: Right? Right?

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Speaker 3: Really? Kevin enjoying Jennifer Garner much?

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Speaker 4: Are we?

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Speaker 2: What would be interesting to know is with Nick, because

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Speaker 2: he mentioned some team and the number.

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Speaker 1: That they were picking. I wonder how deep they know?

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Speaker 3: Oh if you could just quiz Nick, Nick, who who's

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Speaker 3: got picked?

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Speaker 1: Thirty six one?

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Speaker 4: Washington Taters? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like how far? How far can you go?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know a decent I know a decent

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Speaker 2: number of them I get to the middle of the

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Speaker 2: second round, I start going, eh, there was a lot

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Speaker 2: of second round movement, a lot of second round changes.

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Speaker 2: So speaking of trades, I saw this article today by

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Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell. Now I would preface this by saying that

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Speaker 2: none of his trades included the Texans. So what he

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Speaker 2: does every year is he goes the thirty two first

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Speaker 2: round picks and he makes a trade with every single pick.

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Speaker 1: He comes up with his own trade.

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Speaker 2: He uses the Jimmy Johnson draft value chart, and he

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Speaker 2: comes up with a trade for every single pick. Well,

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Speaker 2: there are no picks that impact the Texans directly, but

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Speaker 3: Before you mention these, Bill Barnwell has a lot of

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Speaker 3: time on his hands. If you can write an article

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Speaker 3: like this and put in that kind of work and

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Speaker 3: value properly, value properly meaning the Jimmy Johnson chart, the picks,

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Speaker 3: the trade value. That's incredible stuff. But he is compensated

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this is his draft guide basically, because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot that goes into this. When you see it,

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Speaker 2: there's there's not like pages and pages and pages of

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Speaker 2: things written. But he's got a description for everyone that

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Speaker 2: in it up self takes a while, but just figuring

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Speaker 2: out who you're gonna trade, what's gonna be traded very interesting.

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Speaker 2: And that leads me to this because the ones he

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Speaker 2: has for the AFC self, in fact, the very first

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Speaker 2: pick in the draft, he has the AFC self included. Now,

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Speaker 2: again this is from Bill Barnwell's He does this every year.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two picks, thirty two trades. This is annual thing.

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Speaker 3: He's got the titles moving up to number one?

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Speaker 1: Wrong team?

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Speaker 2: What the Chicago Bears trade one, the one, the first

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Speaker 2: pick in the draft, to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: You're kidding for Trevor.

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Speaker 2: Lawrence, a mid second rounder and a fifth rounder. The

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Speaker 2: Jaguars get one overall. Caleb Williams goes to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: The Bears get Trevor Lawrence, a mid second and a

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Speaker 2: mid fifth.

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Speaker 1: Your gut reaction to what that trade?

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Speaker 2: If that trade were to happen anytime before seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: Central time Thursday, Your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because Trevor Lawrence, so called generational quarterback,

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Speaker 3: drafted in twenty twenty one, and now the Jags jettison him,

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Speaker 3: according to Barnwell his little hypothesis here, and the Jags

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Speaker 3: get another so called generational quarterback and Caleb Williams. That's

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Speaker 3: why they're making this deal. So they're gonna pass off

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Speaker 3: on Lawrence and then go ahead and gamble on Williams.

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Speaker 3: I won't panic, Johnny if the Jags go for Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: But I know Lawrence right now, and I think Lawrence

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Speaker 3: is a good quarterback. I just don't think he's a

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Speaker 3: great quarterback, correct, And I think they could Obviously, they've

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Speaker 3: won a division with him, and they won nine games

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Speaker 3: last year, even though they had a meltdown. They could

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Speaker 3: be very dangerous. We're going to talk a lot in

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Speaker 3: really be because everyone's acting like, oh, for god, conclusion,

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Speaker 3: the Texans are going to win the AFU South right

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Speaker 3: back to the divisional round. Hey, the Jags and Colts

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Speaker 3: and even the Titans want something to say about that,

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Speaker 3: I'll freak out. Probably that would be a major move,

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Speaker 3: and good for him for making that deal. But it's

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Speaker 3: not out of the realm of rational thinking, you know,

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Speaker 3: what I mean, you see it because it's contract time

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Speaker 3: for Lawrence. In many ways, you and I talked about this,

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Speaker 3: and you know what, we don't want to do it.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna go ahead and get Caleb Williams. So

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Speaker 3: this is what he says. The Bears will freak out

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Speaker 3: fans in Chicago, freak out.

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Speaker 2: Loser minds for the Jaguar. This is what Bill Barmol

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Speaker 2: says of ESPN. For the Jaguars, this would be recognizing

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Speaker 2: that they've essentially wasted most of Lawrence's three bargain basement

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Speaker 2: seasons as a starter. The disaster of the Urban Meyer

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Speaker 2: season led to a desperate second offseason in which they

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Speaker 2: spent over the top money to add kirk Zay Jones.

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Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley wasn't able to live up to expectations, and

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Speaker 2: they bout out of the bidding for him this offseason

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Speaker 2: after signing Gabe Davis middling offensive line players and helped

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Speaker 1: Starting over with Williams.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams would give the Jags another chance to build

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Speaker 2: around a quarterback with franchise passer upside. While he's still cheap.

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Speaker 2: There's no way the Bears do it well. This is

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Speaker 2: what he finished with. Is he a team even going

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Speaker 2: to consider his trade for a second?

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Speaker 1: Of course not. Well, each team's fans hate it. Probably.

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Speaker 2: I think fans of both teams will be blindingly enraged

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Speaker 2: by this deal at equal levels, though, and while it

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Speaker 2: will never happen, that would be a sign to the

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Speaker 2: trade is fair.

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Speaker 3: I can understand the Bears not wanting to pick Williams, right,

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Speaker 3: I can understand this that they would want a different quarterback,

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Speaker 3: but you have the number one pick, go ahead and

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Speaker 3: pick a different quarterback at this point. And Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 3: I think he could be solid in a city like Chicago. Look,

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Speaker 3: Chicago has some things to work with. We all know

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Speaker 3: that they won seven games last year, right, Chicago James

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Speaker 3: seven games last year? Chicago Bears, yep, and they get

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Speaker 3: draft capital. Hmm. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I don't know. I just see Jacksonville with

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Speaker 1: number one overall. It's Caleb like, hey.

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Speaker 3: Look, I disagree with him to this extent. I know

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Speaker 3: the Jags didn't win a Super Bowl yet with Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they will, but look, they still have him.

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Speaker 3: But they won a division They went to the divisional

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Speaker 3: round last year, would it, could have, should have? They

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Speaker 3: had a melt down, we all know it. Yep, but

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Speaker 3: they still ended up with a winning season. Last time

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Speaker 3: they had back to back winning seasons. Last time was

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Speaker 3: a long time ago, long time ago, so you know

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Speaker 3: they are in a decent era right now. I know

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of handwringing there, but we'll see. Okay,

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Speaker 3: what's the next one?

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Speaker 2: AFC South picking at number seven, so I know these

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Speaker 2: I know these teams in order number seven the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans deal with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals are at number four, So the Cardinals get

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Speaker 2: Tennessee's pick at seven. They get a early second rounder

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Speaker 2: and wide receiver Treylon Burks. The Titans get pick number

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Speaker 2: four overall.

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Speaker 1: And they also get a third rounder.

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Speaker 2: That presumably means, because you're trading Birks, that they're going

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Speaker 2: up to four to.

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Speaker 3: Get Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison's junior as a Titan.

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Speaker 3: Your reaction is Malik Davis getting drafted first.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I think if you the teams that need receivers, I

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Speaker 2: bet if you went to every team, I bet their

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Speaker 2: top three.

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Speaker 1: How they organize their top three.

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Speaker 3: Is totally different. Interesting, I bet they all are. There's

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Speaker 3: no way the Cardinals do this, right, They have to

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Speaker 3: give up a third also to do this. According to Barnwell,

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Speaker 3: he's using that chart way to relate. Just yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: sticking to the chart because on draft night, you make

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Speaker 3: a deal like this, this is when the extra phone

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Speaker 3: call or the I'm waiting moment, the negotiating moments are

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Speaker 3: played out. Didn't well when we go back to the

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson deal, Rick Smith and who was a SASHI

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Speaker 3: at the time, right Brown, didn't he ask for more

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Speaker 3: in the last moment reportedly said, come on, we already

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Speaker 3: talked about this, but he's trying to get that sweetener.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals move out of that pick and pick up

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Speaker 1: Whooped the freaking do Yeah, you have to give up

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Speaker 3: That's a that's not a good trade. No, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: They could get one of those three.

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Speaker 2: He hypothesizes that they will get a tackle at number four,

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Speaker 2: So here's the first deal. Pick number eleven is the

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Speaker 3: No way the Vikings do this a third to move

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Speaker 3: I'm getting it too minimum for that. If I'm the Card,

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Vikings, that I'm dropping down from eleven

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Speaker 1: Of fifteen.

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Speaker 3: But Barnwell knows this. We're all waiting on the Vikings

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's also got another one of the Colts trading

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Speaker 1: Up with the Colts. The Colts then moved down.

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Speaker 2: So this is very similar to the trade that I

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Speaker 1: But he has the Colts being kind.

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Speaker 3: Of the most Wait, they're trading down to the twenty

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Speaker 1: And they'd be the twenty five and twenty eight in

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Speaker 3: Whoa, So, who are the Colts selecting at twenty five again?

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Speaker 2: Looking at corner and potentially wide receiver? All right, and

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Speaker 2: the thing is they're wide receivers. I mean the right

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Speaker 1: Not there's not a lot of sexy.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel in Indie right now? Richardson's coming back.

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Speaker 3: really interesting. It always is, no matter what happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, it feels almost like one of those It feels

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Speaker 2: first four hundred meters you're pretty close. Yeah, but then

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Speaker 1: From the other ones. I kind of hope that's the case.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: I mean you heard Pat McAfee the day the Digs

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they really know who Richardson really is.

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Speaker 3: That's why they could load up in certain areas. And

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Speaker 3: added appropriately. If you're the Colts on offense, how do

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you one last trade that he came

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Speaker 2: now is occupied by the New England Patriots. In return,

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Speaker 2: the Patriots get pick number twenty three overall and wide

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, they're using a twenty third pick to move up,

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Speaker 3: not the eleventh, Not the eleventh.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings get number three overall, The Patriots get Justin

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Speaker 3: Yep, they're not gonna get a quarterback at twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Now, they're not gonna get They're gonna have to rely

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Speaker 3: You know, you could get Penix. What if they fell

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Speaker 3: We're gonna Pedix and Justin Jefferson. I don't think Jefferson's

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Speaker 2: No, No, But with Pennix maybe maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's got to see it's a show again.

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Speaker 2: He played with Kirk Cousins the last three or four years,

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Speaker 1: I know Kirk solid, but Brisill will get him the ball.

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Speaker 2: He The thing is Addison would open things up for Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: This past year. But then Jefferson got hurt. Who's gonna

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, know, but moving down, you're right, that

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Speaker 3: I'm the Patriots, Jef Jefferson, give me eleven and something else,

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Speaker 2: But I think the Vikings have got to get to

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Speaker 3: Night three to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I mean, I know there's been talking

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Speaker 2: Commanders take a guy we're not all interested in, we

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Speaker 3: Patriots aren't making that deal. Like, I don't know the

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Speaker 5: trying to get into the NFL actually get into the NFL.

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00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 5: When you talk about from high school up there, and

440
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 5: for your household to have two you know, your older brother,

441
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 5: Fernando Smith played in the NFL. What was going on

442
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 5: in that household for that to happen? I mean, we

443
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 5: had a lot of blessings from God, you know what

444
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 5: I mean, because like you say, it's kind of really

445
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 5: the eyes is very low. Some not only one going,

446
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 5: but two, you know. And I like to tell people,

447
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 5: don't forget. I got another brother that possibly could have

448
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 5: played football, but he ended up playing basketball, had a

449
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 5: quick stint in the NBA, but ended up going more

450
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 5: Overseas for the most part.

451
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 4: But he made it to the NBA.

452
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 5: You know, along with two girls cousins of mine that

453
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 5: made it to the w NBA at the time. So

454
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 5: I think our family just been kind of blessed with that,

455
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 5: and you know, like I say, it was just a

456
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 5: lot of blessings from God. Well, when did it hit you, like,

457
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 5: because when you're going through it, you're still young. How

458
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 5: old were you when Fernando first got into the NFL.

459
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 5: When he first got the NFL was my ninth grade

460
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 5: year in high school? Ninety two? My brothers in the NFL.

461
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 5: But when does it hit you, like, maybe.

462
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 4: I got a chance. You know.

463
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 5: The thing with me, I always grew up we played.

464
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 5: I played every sport you know, from soccer to football,

465
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 5: to basketball to you know, anything I can go out

466
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 5: in the neighborhood and played. I ended up playing with

467
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 5: it at my school. But the thing I think that

468
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 5: kind of led me more towards that is always looked

469
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 5: at my brother, looked at my brother as a role model.

470
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 5: So you know, I think that started transforming me into

471
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 5: really locking in and playing football because I always really

472
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 5: grew up thinking basketball, basketball, basketball. Where I'm from it's

473
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 5: a lot of good basketball players. I mean, we got

474
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 5: good football players in the you know that was coming

475
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 5: up that I looked up to, the Carl Banks to

476
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 5: you know, Andre Risen, which I look at like a

477
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 5: big brother, big mark Ingram.

478
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 4: And I love.

479
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 5: Mark Ingram that played in the NFL, but his dad,

480
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 5: you know, it was a couple of guys out of there.

481
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 5: But it was also Glenn Rice, Jeff Greer. You know,

482
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 5: it's a lot of old school players that came that

483
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 5: was in the NBA at the time. So we was

484
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 5: thinking NBA, NBA, NBA. But as I got older and

485
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 5: started watching my brother mannerism, watching what he was doing,

486
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 5: I started doing it.

487
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 4: Then.

488
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 5: The one that finally hit me was I think maybe

489
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 5: maybe like my ninth grade, tenth grade year, I went

490
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 5: down to his football camp when he signed with the

491
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings. It was actually an off season like now,

492
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 5: and they had me just kind of being soorter, like

493
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 5: a little helper.

494
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: You know.

495
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 5: It was him, John Randau and Jerry Ball and all

496
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 5: those guys. And you know, once I think that's the

497
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 5: summer I kind of really grew love for football.

498
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 4: Nice.

499
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's big time right there. To be around that

500
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 5: and then when you're around them, are you thinking to yourself,

501
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 5: you know what, in eight, nine, ten years, I could

502
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 5: be one of these guys. I could do it, you

503
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 5: know what I mean, because I seen it, you know,

504
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: I seen it personally, I felt it, I experienced it.

505
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 5: So that's something that I think a lot of kids,

506
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 5: you know, just in the world in general, you know,

507
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 5: not just from where I'm from, but from all over.

508
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 5: Once you can really feel it and see it and

509
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 5: touch it and see it, that's a goal for you

510
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 5: to shoot for. Like my main reason was after then.

511
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 5: I remember coming back and I seen Andre rising in

512
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 5: a candy Apple red for Rari.

513
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: I said, oh, man, I gotta get me one of that.

514
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 4: I don't know if I.

515
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 5: Could fit in it, but I need one, you know

516
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 5: what I mean. So that kind of you know, drove me,

517
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 5: and you know, part of that was driving me too.

518
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: But once, like you said, once I seen them guys

519
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 5: doing it, and then I started working on some of

520
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: the stuff they doing, even though I didn't know what

521
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 5: I was doing. I'm like, I could do this, you

522
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And then the little stuff they

523
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 5: showed me over that summer, I took it back into

524
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 5: my tenth grade season in high school, and it just worked.

525
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, I got a chance. Yeah that's

526
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 5: aw man, it's kind of corny. Like, you know, when

527
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 5: I was young, I was a football nerd. Like I

528
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 5: played all the other sports, but I loved football. I

529
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 5: literally would cut pictures of every player, even if I

530
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 5: didn't know who it was out of Sports Illustrator.

531
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sports Illustrated and put it on the wall.

532
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 5: But I knew very well who your brother was also

533
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: played defensive man. Okay, so you know I knew exactly

534
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 5: who who he was, John Randall. And then when I

535
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 5: mentioned you, I put it togel. I was like, oh,

536
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 5: that's his younger brother was there, Like I didn't just

537
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 5: know who he was, Like I would watch him and

538
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 5: try to mimic his movements because that's just what I did.

539
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 5: So you get back and you're using those movements your

540
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 5: tenth grade year, and you're starting to see that it works.

541
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 5: When is it time to start thinking about, Okay, what

542
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 5: university doing?

543
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: You? You know what?

544
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 5: I was still scrouting the fence because I always been,

545
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 5: I like to say, pretty decent at basketball. So I

546
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 5: argue I was my guys better than what I thought,

547
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But I didn't really really

548
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 5: really make the decision to start playing football to really my.

549
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 4: Senior year in high school.

550
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 5: Like I say, I always straddled defense, you know what

551
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 5: I mean, even to the point where I you know,

552
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 5: I told coach Saban, Okay, if I come to Michigan State,

553
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: can I still play basketball? And of course he's gonna

554
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 5: tell you. Yeah, He's gonna tell you whatever you want

555
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 5: to hear until you get there, you know. And it

556
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 5: was good that I was seeing coach Izzo coming to

557
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 5: my school for my brother and to which is a

558
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 5: year older than me, and my best friend my team.

559
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, yeah you could play.

560
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 5: But I didn't never take it as I really could

561
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 5: because they was like, yeah, all right, yeah you can

562
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 5: play if you want to.

563
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 4: But it was like, you know, you're not right, you

564
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So it was cool, you know.

565
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: So my senior year, I think that's when I decided, like, okay,

566
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 5: football is my thing.

567
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: All right.

568
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 5: So you played basketball at a high level, You had

569
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 5: a brother go to the NBA, a brother go to

570
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 5: the NFL. In your opinion, what's tougher, I would say

571
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 5: you gotta really buffum got they got. It's tough, you know,

572
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. Because basketball you gotta be a

573
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 5: gym rat, you know what I mean.

574
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: You got to be in there every day.

575
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 5: You got to put up the five hundred thousand shots, dribble,

576
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 5: do this, do that, just consistently. But football is a

577
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 5: game that you got to truly love because you know,

578
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 5: it takes it's so much. It's so much demand on

579
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 5: your body physically, mentally, you know, emotionally, you're away from

580
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: your family longer. I think at times, cause you know

581
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 5: you ain't here whether you practicing, whether you watch a film,

582
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 5: whether you're getting treatment, whether you lifting weights, like you

583
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 5: got to do all those things like repeatedly, like two

584
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 5: and three times a week. You know, that's that's on

585
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 5: the lower end, you know. So I think it's much

586
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: more demand than to be a football player. And I think,

587
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: like I said, it's just a lot more work goes

588
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 5: into it. If you ask me, I feel like football

589
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 5: is more of a grind or basketball is more of

590
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: a skill set. But I mean, like you said, it's

591
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 5: tough for but they're both very tough. You know, when

592
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 5: I was at Rice and this is you know, small

593
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 5: Division I school, we will play pick up basketball with

594
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 5: the basketball player. That's when it hit me. I thought

595
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 5: I was a good basketball player some of our high school,

596
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 5: but when I played pick up, I'm like, I'm not

597
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 5: good at all. Because they would make if they were uncontested,

598
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 5: they would make shots like just lay up easy.

599
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's why.

600
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 5: You know when people, you know, they got to be

601
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: mindful when they be watching these basketball and football games.

602
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 5: They be, Oh, this basketball player, he's sorry. He the

603
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 5: thirteenth or the twelfth person off the bench. But that

604
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 5: twelfth person on a regular person would give you fifty

605
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: to sixty points real easy.

606
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 4: You know.

607
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 5: It takes it, like I say, it takes a lot,

608
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 5: but those guys are really good. I think that's about

609
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: what you're said was probably about my come to Jesus moment.

610
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 5: Also in college, it was in the summertime, and I

611
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: think it was our freshman year, maybe my sophomore, and

612
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 5: it was a couple of us on a football team.

613
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 5: We used to always go and watch the basketball team

614
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 5: practice in the summer cause we always cool man. And

615
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: then one day we gets out there we trying to scrimmage.

616
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: These dudes were talking crazy so they like, come on,

617
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: you know, it went real quick from a full court

618
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: game to a half court game to man, people just

619
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 5: laying on top of each other, to okay, we got

620
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 5: to turn this into football now hard foults.

621
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

622
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 5: You know, so I think, like you said, those guys,

623
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: it's a different thing. And they be very good, very talented,

624
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 5: and they does stuff with ease. But you know, going

625
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 5: back to what we're saying, that's all the time they

626
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 5: put in the gym on them, shots them, you know, dribbling,

627
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: shooting a thousand times a day, you know, three hundred

628
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 5: from this by three hundred. I mean, it's almost like

629
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 5: they ain't got to look at the rim and shoot

630
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: it and make it like literally, yeah, yep. And it

631
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 5: was crazy, Like did you say that because I was

632
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: just down in Phoenix and I was watching those guys

633
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: warm up before the game, like, yeah, the Phoenix Sons.

634
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: Because a good friend of mine that went to school

635
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 5: with us named Matt Itch just bought the Sons. So

636
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 5: we was going down there just watching them and hold on,

637
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 5: hold on, is that a humble brand? No, man, that's

638
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: just the whole My homeboys are buying shoes. Your homeboys

639
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 5: are buying basketball team. But go ahead, I gotta tell

640
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: you why. I'm why.

641
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: I'm just a now, I'm just an automatic Sons fan

642
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: at all time.

643
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 5: So if anybody you ain't even got to ask me,

644
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: my favorite team is the Sons. You know what I mean?

645
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 5: You know that's how we rolled. Hey, but I was

646
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 5: watching those guys.

647
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

648
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: They come out there maybe like an hour and a

649
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: half two hours before the game, and they work out

650
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: before the game before the game, like everything that you

651
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 5: see during the game, they done worked out and did

652
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: that maybe a hour and a half to like hour

653
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes before the game. Like they come out there

654
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 5: one at a time, and they all be with a

655
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 5: trainer and they actually go through every shot they do.

656
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 5: And some of the stuff they was doing was I'm like, okay,

657
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: why you doing that? But then you see it happened

658
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 5: in the game, like oh okay, I see it now,

659
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 5: Like it was points when they were shooting three pointers.

660
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 5: They ain't been to no elbows. All they doing is

661
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 5: catching ball, flicking the rist and I'm like, dam how

662
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: did he do that? Why is he doing that?

663
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: At warm up?

664
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: Then I see you doing in the game. I'm like, man,

665
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 5: this look it makes you respect basketball totally different. The

666
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 5: grind is different. Speaking of respected, I have two basketball

667
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: questions before we started talking Texans. Speaking of respecting basketball

668
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: a little more. Did you have a chance to watch

669
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: any of the women's tournament? Oh?

670
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: Man, I watched it all, you know.

671
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 5: I mean I kept hearing about Kaitlyn Clark, but after

672
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 5: seeing I was like, Okay, she's the truth. Oh man,

673
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: I don't know what people's why they hating O Kaitlin

674
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: cart so much. That girl she's good if you look

675
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 5: at her. I'm not saying that she's Steph Curry, but

676
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: it's the same comparison when you're doing like, would she

677
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: ever be able to do this? Even when Tarasi I

678
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 5: think went on on her podcast or something that says

679
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 5: she's gonna have a humble experience once she comes to

680
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 5: the w NBA because she's not playing with eighteen year

681
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: old she's playing with grown women. Well you can look

682
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: at that either way, because everybody had that humble experience.

683
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: But do that thing. Do I think she can get

684
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: over the hump? Yeah?

685
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 5: I think she's a once in a generation type player

686
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: as a ret Now, now, would she be able to

687
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: have the volume and the shoot it that she did

688
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 5: in college and you know the lead way, We'll wait

689
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: and see. I don't see why she wouldn't. But she's good.

690
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 5: And there's a lot of girls in there that that

691
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: I feel like was good. I'm just a basketball head,

692
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 5: like you football. I love basketball.

693
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: You've always been bad.

694
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, we had a chance to coach basketball.

695
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 5: You know a lot about basketball. When I first I

696
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 5: heard about her, and I kept hearing her name. This

697
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: is going back to last year, and I knew she

698
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: was good. But this year, I said, okay, let me

699
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: put my phone away and just watch it. And I

700
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 5: don't know if I just picked the right game, but

701
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 5: by the end of the game were wide, My hands

702
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 5: were in my balls. That was every game. That's just

703
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 5: that's her style of play. I think them. When did

704
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: you watch her more in the in the finals and

705
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: in the playoffs the final two games, Yeah.

706
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: Like them was?

707
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 5: I think them was some of her toughest game, Like

708
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: you know, like that she did all year, but she

709
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: stepped up to the moment. She showed out in the

710
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: moment against the good players. Because you look at the

711
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 5: the girl Reese and you know some of the guys

712
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: that was I mean some of the girls. I said,

713
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: guys like I'm watching the boys. But yeah, some of

714
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: the girls that were checking her to South Carolina. You know,

715
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: they've been very good lately and don Staley them they

716
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 5: know their thing and you know Marky from LSU.

717
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: And she made it. It was tough.

718
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 5: Second quarter, next thing, you know, she get the rolling.

719
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 5: She made it start looking a little easy, like man,

720
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 5: But this is the best that she can go against.

721
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: And I don't think too much has change.

722
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: It might even help that she's going to the w NBA,

723
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: just like some college basketball players fit more of NBA

724
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: style than college. That's why I think Briannie got to

725
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: test that water. You know this, I don't mean the

726
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: jump shift, but he got to test that water because

727
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 5: I think he's a He would be a better pro

728
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 5: than he is a college player. How cool would that be?

729
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 5: You have two boys, my nephews who are who are stuff.

730
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: It's like they're freaks. But can you imagine being able

731
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: to actually play with them. I just coached him up

732
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: to actually play with them. I think I would love it.

733
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if they will. They'll be like, bro,

734
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: I don't want to play with my daddy watching my

735
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 5: every move and I can't talk like I want to talk.

736
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: But I think that's you know, that'll be something that's

737
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: like be terrific. I think it'll be a dream of

738
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: any athlete to play with their child on you know,

739
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 5: I don't care what sport or what level, but I

740
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 5: just think that son, that'll be very fun to do.

741
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: You know, how long, Like I say, how long would

742
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: it last?

743
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

744
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: It's more like likely it happened in baseball and basketball.

745
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, Frank Gore almost did it.

746
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: He did it. I really think he could have if

747
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 5: he really wanted to. If you want to know, I'll

748
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: be a third down back round. You know, you're right.

749
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: I actually didn't think about it. Yeah, I think he

750
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: really good. Knowing that, shoot, I would have busted some

751
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: nuts early in my age fifteen sixteen and knowing that

752
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: that could because you got to think about we was

753
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: playing football. It was some kids. That's uh, some guys

754
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: that we was playing with their kids was running around

755
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 5: the field. Oh yeah, you know I like to you know,

756
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 5: not to do Bruce, but Bruce Matthews, I remember jaking

757
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: all those guys was was babies when we played at

758
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 5: Tennessee and I look at them now, I'd be telling

759
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: me every time I see him up the plays working out, Like, man,

760
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: I remember you was stealing diapers, running around that little

761
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: you know, around the facility at Bruce. Look at y'all, man,

762
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 5: like you Finn retire, you are stull you you a

763
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, all pro and all this,

764
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: Like man, this is crazy. I mean it makes me

765
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 5: feel all at the same time. But it's it's cool

766
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 5: to see. And I wish that could have been me,

767
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 5: you know. And that's something I discussed my wife, like

768
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: I wish, you know, I would have had my son's

769
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 5: earlier so they can be at practice with me, come

770
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: out there and work out with me, and like you said,

771
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 5: hopefully we could have did something together.

772
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: You know, we can still move around.

773
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I could have had one good friend as

774
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: a coach to be like, man, let me just play.

775
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 5: I don't even need to bring my helmet out the

776
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 5: locker room. It's let me play with my sons for

777
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: one week. Yeah, that would have been fun. Let's speak

778
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 5: with Robert Smith's OG podcast. All right, let's switch gears

779
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 5: and talk about the excitement going on here in Houston

780
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: with Themiko Ryans. Obviously, the mcnar's have done an awesome

781
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 5: job kind of turning everything around. Just two years ago,

782
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 5: people outside of Houston were laughing at the Texans, and

783
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 5: now people are talking contenders. Is it too early to

784
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: talk contenders right now? I mean, if you want to

785
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 5: be humble, yeah, But at the same time, you gotta

786
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: have that confidence, like it's true, that's how you want

787
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: to come into an off season. You want that mindset

788
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 5: like it's time to shine.

789
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

790
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: They I felt like they set the standard last year.

791
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 5: You know, if you're looking at it from a team aspect,

792
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: they set the standard of where they want to be

793
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 5: or what they want to do. And I think they

794
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 5: got better this offseason, you know, at a couple different positions.

795
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: So I think it's a reasonable dole to have, for sure.

796
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 5: I hope that's how one would think, like it's time

797
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 5: for us to go out there and contend and compete

798
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: and win this thing, because that's at the end of

799
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: the day, you know, that's the goal. You want the

800
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 5: players to think it. I guess people get a little

801
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 5: weary when they say it. I'm okay for players confidence

802
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 5: as long as you back it. Up for sure, you

803
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I don't want to play with

804
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 5: nobody that's doubting theyselves, you know what I mean, Like

805
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 5: we're finna lose.

806
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: No, we ain't finna lose. I don't want to play

807
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: with him. Yeah.

808
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: So no, like they should have that. That's that should

809
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 5: motivate them to push through this summer. Hopefully everybody had

810
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: the best offseason they can and and and come in

811
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: rocking and rolling, you know what I mean, and win

812
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 5: some of the games. Like always say, a football you

813
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 5: gotta have the games you win or something you gotta

814
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: you gotta win by luck. So if you want to

815
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 5: know which football team that I feel like is gonna

816
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 5: make it, every year they had in one or two

817
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 5: lucky games that they shouldn't have won, but they did.

818
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: I had this argument with a buddy mine.

819
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 5: He played also, and he thought I was just trying

820
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 5: to say all the right things. So I want to

821
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: get your take on this. I never went into a

822
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: game from high school throughout the NFL before the game

823
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 5: thinking we were gonna lose, and he swore up and

824
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 5: down like, man, you had to know. So I want

825
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: to get your did you ever go into the game

826
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 5: thinging man. No, no, no, no, I can't think that.

827
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's just the way I've been

828
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: wired since I've been a kid or whatever whatnot. Like

829
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 5: some people like to be like you a sore lose.

830
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: I think I'm a sore winner, you know what I mean.

831
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: So at the same time, because I hate to lose

832
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 5: more than I like to win, So I don't never

833
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 5: think like, no, I'm finna lose, or we don't got

834
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: a chance that that right there that grinds me, like

835
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 5: that get under me, that get under my skin with

836
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 5: somebody even think that they got the possibility of loving

837
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 5: before it's before it's even played. You know what, this

838
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 5: is gonna bother you, especially when you talk to your boys.

839
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: I think this generation they're a little more realistic. I'm

840
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 5: trying to keep it positive because I remember not to

841
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 5: make this about me, but I remember when I was

842
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: in college, we were about to play Ohio State and

843
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: for those who don't know, I went to Rights and

844
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: at the time, it was the smallest he wants go

845
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 5: in the nation. It was our first game of the season.

846
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 5: So that whole summer, you know, we're breaking our workouts.

847
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: Beat O House State man, we were so crunked. We

848
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 5: were like, man, we're about to shock the world. They

849
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: beat us seventy to seven. Hey but they Hey, but

850
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: did y'all make them play?

851
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: Though? You know we did, I mean that game.

852
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: But then on the way back we're like, oh, okay,

853
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: that's the difference. But even then we played LSU two

854
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: weeks later, like I would have bet my life we

855
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 5: were gonna win that game. So I'm kind of with you.

856
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 5: But I think now if you ask some of these kids,

857
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: because we get a chance to talk to a lot

858
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: of kids, and I'll pull them aside, like, hey, what

859
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 5: you thinking about this game?

860
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: Oh?

861
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 4: Man, our quarterback trash we're not gonna win.

862
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: And I'm like, you're going into the game, but you know,

863
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 5: thinking that, I think they're a little more aware.

864
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 4: Ah. I don't know if that's good or bad, but

865
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: it is what it is.

866
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you've been nice saying aware, you know

867
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 5: what I mean, Because it's just it's just hard for

868
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 5: me to think, like we're not gonna win, Like yeah,

869
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: like if you're gonna beat me, you gonna have to

870
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 5: beat me.

871
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: You know, I don't care what it is.

872
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: I don't care if we can see who could throw

873
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: a rock the farthest or closest to a wall. You're

874
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: gonna have to beat me. I'm probably I don't know

875
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 5: if I can even throw a rock close to the wall.

876
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 5: But you're gonna have to show me that you can

877
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: beat me. I'm not gonna just say, oh, yeah, he's

878
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: better than me, or no, we don't stand a chance,

879
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 5: or or no, my teammate ain't good enough.

880
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

881
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: Because if I would have heard a guy say that

882
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: a quarterback, sir, we're not gonna beat them, Well, what

883
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 5: the other ten people are gonna be doing?

884
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: On?

885
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 5: Because we got a chance at the other ten, They

886
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 5: just gotta beat their people then, you know what I mean.

887
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 5: So it's always a way around and always thinking, you know, negative,

888
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: started thinking some more of the positive thing. And I

889
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 5: think that's why a lot of people put a lot

890
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 5: of doubt, which brings anxiety to them because they doubting

891
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: theyselves so much instead of believing in theyself, you know

892
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 5: what I mean. So yeah, man, it gotta happen. Man,

893
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: that's laid down on the couch right.

894
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: Hey man, that's.

895
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 4: Going back to my Michigan State psychology class days.

896
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: I'm like, look, can we turn the MinC off. I

897
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: got some things I've been going through that I want

898
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: I'll tell you about. All Right, we one quarterback that

899
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 5: is not trash, emphasis on not CJ. Stroud Just because

900
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 5: you watch the game differently than a fan, because you

901
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: and I have the conversations. What did you see out

902
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 5: of CJ. Stroud his rookie year? Ah, I see like

903
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 5: a poise quarterback.

904
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: For one. He's very poised.

905
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 5: And what I like about CJ is I don't know

906
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: if too many people will recognize it, you know what

907
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 5: I mean?

908
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: But I know you do.

909
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: I know the guys that play is he never put

910
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: his receivers in harm's way. And you go back and

911
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 5: you look at some of the great the Tom Brady's,

912
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: the Peyton Manny, you know, the different ones. They never

913
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: put their receiver to where he gonna get smatched. He's

914
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 5: taking a receiver where he want to go when he

915
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: throw the ball. And I think they did a great job.

916
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: It helped some of the youngest players like Tank Dell

917
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: and some of those guys and all, you know, not

918
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 5: just them because he's young, you know what I mean. So,

919
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: but you could tell he's been working with someone that's

920
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 5: that's been poting him in this game for a minute.

921
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 5: The way he throws the ball, and I think that's

922
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: a huge thing for a quarterback because for one, the

923
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 5: receiver's gotta trust you. For two, you got to I

924
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: say the receiver got trust him. He got a trust receivers.

925
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put this ball where I want you to go.

926
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 5: You just gotta turn around and find it. Yeah, I

927
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 5: know the player make you go ten and out, but

928
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 5: I might throw ten out and I might throw it

929
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: behind you because I see him sitting on top of you.

930
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 5: So now I'm gonna throw it behind you and you're

931
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: gonna turn it all the way around and get that ball,

932
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 5: you know.

933
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: What I mean.

934
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 5: So it gotta be a trust on both angles. And

935
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 5: I see, like, man, if I didn't just know his age,

936
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 5: I would think he was a super vet in this league. Yeah,

937
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 5: when you mentioned that, because that's very perceptive. Do you

938
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: think he's thinking, like, Okay, if I throw this ball,

939
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 5: he's gonna get laid out or is it more because

940
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 5: of the timing he's getting it out in time. I

941
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 5: think it's more him reading the defense and reading reading

942
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 5: the people. I mean, I think he does a great

943
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 5: job of recognition of the defense and what there really

944
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 5: is and knowing exactly where he can go according to

945
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 5: whether it's his own, whether it's man. And you know,

946
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 5: I think that's got a lot to do with the

947
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 5: placement also. So if they got to say the hides

948
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: and he's gone, somebody come across the middle with a

949
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: linebacker sitting in that middle, of course, I'm not gonna

950
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 5: lead you. I'm gonna throw it behind you, so you

951
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 5: know what I mean the run. The linebacker might come

952
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 5: and hit you, but it ain't gonna be as hard

953
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 5: as you running into him, you know. And I think

954
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: he does a great job of recognizing what's going on

955
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 5: and putting it like that. There's always this debate. Now

956
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: you have Nico Collins, who's coming off a career year.

957
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: You're getting a healthy tank Dell back. You signed Diggs. Yeah,

958
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 5: when they talk about number one receiver, is that just

959
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 5: media talk or do you feel like the offensive coordinator

960
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 5: has to say we have to target this one guy.

961
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: Man.

962
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: No, I would hope they don't do that, especially with

963
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 5: a you know, with a young quarterback or either you know,

964
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: because all three guys you just named is exceptional.

965
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: Guys.

966
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, And I think you know

967
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 5: the big thing is gonna be is Okay, we're gonna

968
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 5: put that personal side, that personal stuff to the side,

969
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: and we're gonna win. You know what I mean. It

970
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 5: ain't about who's the number one, who's this and that?

971
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: Because you talking about three studs, right, You know what

972
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: I mean? That can go on any team and possibly

973
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 5: be a number one receiver, you know, So you know,

974
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: I don't think that's gonna play in the player and

975
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 5: really affect too much. Like I'm a number more receiver.

976
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 5: Throw it to me more. No you got is the

977
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: protocol when you running the offense. As long as they

978
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 5: stick to it, I think everybody will get their.

979
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: Great stuff there from our guy Indy Klue and former

980
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: Texan rope Bear Smith. We had a chance to catch

981
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: up with Robert after he was in there with ind

982
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: we're just chopping it up. I don't think I ever

983
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: met him before, so it was great to catch up

984
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: with him. Very very cool guy and great on the mic.

985
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: So appreciate Robert Smith and of course our guy in

986
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: d Clue. All right, coming up next, we're gonna go

987
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 2: a round the league. What's happening on Friday. There's always

988
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: news on Friday, that Friday news dump. Are your Texans

989
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: involved in any of that? I don't think so, but

990
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: I ain't never know. We'll do that next Right here

991
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: in Texans All Access. We got on the final segment

992
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,359
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993
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,520
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994
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Speaker 1: Let's get the news around the league.

1002
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: Chargers GM Joe Hortes says, yeah, we're sitting at number

1003
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: five in the draft. Now, he's a new GMK from

1004
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: the Ravens, so they know how to wheel and deal.

1005
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: And Joe said, yeah, you know, you can come to

1006
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: us with fair trades and all, but you better make

1007
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: it attractive for us or we're not moving. I think

1008
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: the Charger's sitting in a pretty good spot, to be

1009
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: honest with you. Now, some of that can be short

1010
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: circuited by what happens at picks three and four, because

1011
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: if the Patriots don't draft the quarterback, they'll trade to

1012
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 2: somebody that will draft for a quarterback. And you would

1013
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: imagine that Arizona. If Arizona trades out, it's gonna be

1014
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: to somebody for a quarterback. You would think that opens

1015
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: up pick number five for the Chargers to either a

1016
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: move the pick and get a lot in return.

1017
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: Or be draft the.

1018
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: Best non quarterback in this draft, whoever they deem that

1019
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: to be. Be an offensive tackle, which there's a lot

1020
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: to talk about, or one of the three receivers that

1021
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: we'd imagine are all going into top ten. Joe Horden says, look,

1022
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: if we're gonna make a deal, it's gotta be one

1023
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: of those. Man, this is too good to turn down

1024
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: sort of deals, and teams might have to do that

1025
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: to get to number five.

1026
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: Now, Arizona could sit tight. New England could sit tight,

1027
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: Arizona could sit tight.

1028
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: Arizona's not drafting a quarterback, so the Chargers are sitting

1029
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: there within the Golden Ticket, and that is gonna be

1030
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: good for them if a team wants to go up

1031
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: and get the fourth best quarterback. If not, well, the

1032
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: Chargers can't find that trade partner. They don't find someone

1033
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: that says, hey, we're gonna give you more than a

1034
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: fair trade. We're just gonna give you a fair trade.

1035
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna get multiple calls would imagine to trade that pick.

1036
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: The interesting one would be if the Broncos call the

1037
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: Chargers and say, hey, hey, hey, hey, we want to

1038
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: trade with you. I wonder if they'll deal with them

1039
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: at that point, But Joe Hart says, yeah, there's certainly

1040
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: it's too good of a deal because of what we're

1041
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: getting back. They have to make it attractive for us

1042
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: to move away from those players, meeting who they could

1043
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: draft at number five. The whole it's a fair trade,

1044
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: it's a wash. I don't think that's a trade that

1045
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: we're interested in. If we're gonna trade away from great players,

1046
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 2: there has to be a reason in terms of value

1047
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: for us. Certainly there are going to be more great

1048
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: players in the draft, but it has to make sense

1049
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: to you, and it has to make sense to the team.

1050
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: That is wanting to come up. This is gonna get

1051
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: interesting in the draft at pick number five. I kind

1052
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: of can't wait to see what ends up happening with

1053
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: that particular portion of the draft, because with three with

1054
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: the Patriots, they could move it, could take a quarterback.

1055
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: Arizona won't take a quarterback, but could take the best

1056
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: non quarterback on the board. And I know they need cornerback,

1057
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 2: but they definitely need wide receiver, especially after trade Rondelle More.

1058
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: They don't have a guy than Michael Wilson, so yeah,

1059
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: they've got to definitely get that taken care of. The

1060
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions have also made a jersey swap. Now keep

1061
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: in mind, you can once you go with a jersey,

1062
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: you stick with it for five years. At a minimum,

1063
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: it's got to be five years.

1064
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: That's an NFL rule thing. They got to stick with

1065
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: it for five years.

1066
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: The Lions went a little bit back to the future,

1067
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: and I like them. I like what the Lions have

1068
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: done with these uniforms. Like them a lot better than

1069
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: what they had the last few years. And they've added

1070
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: a black uniform that's got a blue kind of almost

1071
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: a panther's like blue helmet. So I would imagine we'll

1072
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: see the white on white. But that's gonna be cool

1073
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: because Detroit's coming here to Houston. But the Lions have

1074
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: new jerseys, the Jets already showed theirs, the Broncos have

1075
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: new jerseys, and oh, if you were living under a

1076
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: rock and you didn't know, the Texans have their new jerseys,

1077
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 2: come out.

1078
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: Obviously there are leaks on helmets and all that kind

1079
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: of stuff.

1080
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: So Tuesday's today, Mark and I will be out out

1081
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: and about that day we'll be doing the show at

1082
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: the jersey uniform revealed. Looking forward to that. You guys,

1083
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: have a tremendous weekend. I appreciate you being with me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Mark for being here, Ogs, Andy klu and

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Speaker 2: Robert Smith, all of you for listen. We'll see next

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Speaker 2: time everybody, and as always, go Texans,