1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Roden Karen are Hant. Ever since the day of Dante's sentencing, 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: I've wondered what our criminal justice would look like justice 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: system would look like if we tried to approach it 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: the way mister Thomas did. What if we came to 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: see that justice requires accountability but not vengeance. What if 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: we came to understand that equal protection under the law, 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: including equal protection for black victims, too long denied, it 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have to mean the harshest available punishment. What if 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: we endeavored to make the lives of black victims matter 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: without policies that led to the mass incarceration of black defendants. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: What if we strove for compassion, for mercy, for forgiveness, 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: and what if we did this for everybody, including people 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: who have harmed others. From a policy perspective, this would 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: mean expanding recent reform proposals, instituting pre trial diversion programs 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: the funnel people into drug treatment instead of prison, funding 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: public defenders adequately, and giving discretion back to judges by 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: eliminating mandatory men, building quality schools inside juvenile and adult prisons, 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: restoring voting rights to people who have served their sentences, or, 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: better yet, allowing people to vote while incarcerated, and welcoming, 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: not shunning and shaming, those who are returned from prison. 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: These ideas would have been ridiculed as hopelessly naive or 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 1: soft hatted as recently as a few years ago, but now, 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: for the first time in forty years, they are getting 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: a hearing. The collective work ahead is to deepen and 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: broaden these efforts, all the while ensuring that they don't 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: remain limited to the category of nonviolent offenders. Hey, welcome 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: to the Black Autist podcast. I'm your host Rod, joined 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: us always by my co host Kevin, and we are 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: ready to do some podcasting on a Wednesday. Took yesterday 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: off from the regular show, but I did do this 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: too much with BOSSI. I just was like, I'm gonna 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: take a nap, okay, and I took a nap. Hard 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: dude woke up and it was like none o'clock or something. 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I said, fuck it, it's time to watch Stargirl. Okay, 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: that's what happened, y'all. But uh yeah, so we're doing 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: the show today. You can find us on iTunes, Stitch 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: of Potomatic search the black guy who tips leave us 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: five star reviews. The official weapon of the show is 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and the unofficial sport a bulletball Extreme, and today's podcast 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: exert is from Locking Up Our Own by James Foreman Junior. 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I read this book like last year, 43 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: sometime maybe two years ago, and I just thought it 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: was a great book. You know, I'm not what I 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: would call a prison abolitionist. I'm not what I would 46 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: call someone who's gonna abolish the police or whatever. I'm 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: not that radical. And that's okay, But but I don't 48 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: think the status quote is tenable. I don't think what 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: we have now is good. And I don't know that 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: just a simple reform, warming and reframing with a few 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: new ideas or measures is going to stop the killing 52 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: of black people and the incarceration of black people. But 53 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: after reading this book, I love the book because one 54 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: it puts so much into context, you know, and I 55 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: think we're living in an age where context is secondary 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: to everybody's point, Like nobody gives a fuck now if 57 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: something makes sense, no one gives a fuck. What Why 58 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: things happen in a you know, everything now is they 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: want to put it in a vacuum they don't want 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: to let you let your brain process, like how do 61 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: things get to a point? And this book gave me 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: so much context for the you know, I lived through 63 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, but for a lot of 64 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: stuff I didn't live through, the heroin epidemic of the seventies, 65 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: the violence of the eighties, the lawlessness in the black 66 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: community because police refuse to do their jobs in the 67 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: black community. And then of course it's made a cry 68 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: for policing because black people have been here before. There's 69 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: nothing that we have tried that there's nothing new under 70 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: the sun. There's nothing we haven't tried. 71 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: You know. 72 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: It's why I don't really I don't believe in that 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: where I'm not my ancestor shit. We have fought in 74 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: every single way, you know, we have fought every type 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: of battle. And the crux of this book gets down 76 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: to something at the end, and I find I find 77 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: what he is advocating for to be so revolutionary and 78 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: yet so simple. And it's the smallest thing that many 79 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Black people that are around me, you know, many black 80 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: people I follow, they're not really willing to do And 81 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't blame them because I can't always do it. 82 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: But It centers around the idea of forgiveness, something that's 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: essentially gone to the wayside. Yeah, people get mad when 84 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: they find out a black person forgave something racial. When 85 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: a black person, you know, they turn on They turned 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: on that dude that was harassed in central part because 87 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't vindictive enough about that white woman losing her job. 88 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: He wasn't celebrating it. And that's why I think, at 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: the core of it, I don't believe all this shit 90 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: is going to come to pass where we reform our 91 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: criminal justicism because even black people who have been abused 92 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: by the system don't want to believe in forgiveness. And 93 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't blame them because I can't always make it 94 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: to forgiveness, you know, And that is what the system 95 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: is truly feeding off of the inability to to forgive, 96 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the inability to say I still believe and have hoping 97 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: this person being a better person. 98 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, easiers said than done. And everybody feels differently 99 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: about forgiveness and how they should forgive. It's individual walk 100 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: I know, for me, I'm not perfect and I fuck up, 101 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: so I am more apt to forgive because I want 102 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: the same forgiveness given to me when it's my turn, 103 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: because nobody's perfect, and one day you're gonna fuck up 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to ask for forgiveness. You know, 105 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: children asks for forgiveness for their parents, and parents should 106 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: ask for forgiveness from their children because parents fuck up 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: and do their children wrong. But you know, the way 108 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: society is, you have this authoritative position in parents and parents. 109 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: I don't fuck up, I don't never do nothing wrong 110 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: you actually do as a parent. You're not perfect, you 111 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: make errors, you make mistakes, there are things that you 112 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: could have done better in but that's okay. And I 113 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: think because people are so angry and people are so mad, 114 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: people are so upset that they're saying red. Everything is vengeance, vengeance, 115 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: vengeous vengeance. But somewhere in there, in my opinion, for 116 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: some people, in order to move on, there has to 117 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: be forgiveness or else you're going to permanently stay stuck 118 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: on mad. And that doesn't benefit anybody, because I'm gonna 119 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: tell you right now, upset people should not be running 120 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: the ship. 121 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think everybody has it in them the 122 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: capacity to forgive and the capacity not to and with 123 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: a lot of with us knowing how Ragio the system 124 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: is and how it's weaponized against black people. How many 125 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: of us don't practice forgiveness for other black people even right, 126 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: they make an infraction and it's forever, you know, they 127 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: say something we disagree with, it's on site forever, Like 128 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: there is no coming back to the flock, There is 129 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: no letting stuff go. And I'm only talking social infractions, right, 130 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: so we're not even getting into criminal infractions because it's 131 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: hard for me to believe the same people that's gonna 132 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: hold a gripe against Kanye West for the rest of 133 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: his life are gonna forgive the guy who robbed them. 134 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't believe them. 135 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: Yes, because, particularly on social media, forgiveness is not something 136 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: that's rewarded. What's rewarded is just being mad all the time. 137 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: What's rewarded, what gets the most tweets, the most eyes, 138 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: what draws the most attention, is me calling you out, 139 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: bringing to the carpet, or dragging, however you want to 140 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: call it. You know, in various different forms, that's rewarded. 141 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: And so for a lot of people, if you start 142 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: talking about forgiveness, a lot of times depend on on 143 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: how on what circles you're rolling You're gonna let them 144 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: circles go because these people are gonna be mad and 145 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: they will never forgive. 146 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: And the thing is, what I'm saying, I know isn't popular. 147 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is something I can't always aspire to. 148 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't always make it to this, you know, but 149 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I try. I do try my best. I think there's 150 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: value and forgiveness, not not for the person being forgiven, 151 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: but for me selfishly. Forgiveness is a thing that helps 152 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: me to move on. Some people say they move on 153 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: without forgiving, but I watched them they don't, you know 154 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: what I mean? 155 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: And you can tell. 156 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 4: You can. 157 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: You can feel the energy, feel it in that spirit. 158 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: They can't move on. You know, we're getting a bit 159 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: ethereal here, a bit hippie, but that's the truth. 160 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: Yes, you can tell, because like I said, the uh, 161 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: I can't speak to anybody else, but I know this 162 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: is something that I've struggled with for things that have 163 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: been done to me. And I said I forgave, but 164 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: I really didn't forgive. Because anytime certain people names came up, 165 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: or anytime I saw a picture, or anytime something reminded 166 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: me of them, that the thing would swell up in 167 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: me like it was brand new, almost like the flame 168 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 3: in my heart that anger would come back again. And 169 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: the longer I lied to myself and let it stay dormant, 170 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: when it came back, it was even stronger because it 171 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: actually set their dormant, just waiting to be be brought 172 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: up again. But when you truly, truly, truly be like, 173 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: you know what, I am truly going to let this go, 174 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: A lot of times, uh, it's very hard to truly 175 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: stuff go because your mind will actually put stuff on 176 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: repay on repeat, and and and and like it's fresh 177 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: in your mind constantly. And you know, it's very hard 178 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: to get to the point where there's a difference. You 179 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: can't forgive and not forget, because I think a lot 180 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: of people treat those things and say if I forgive, 181 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: that means I forget, And that's not true. I can 182 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: forgive you and still remember. I can forgive you and 183 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: still protect myself. I can forgive you and still move on. 184 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: I can forgive you and still make accommodations around me 185 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: that this thing won't happen again, because a lot of 186 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: times you end up losing friendships, families, loved ones and stuff. 187 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: So focused on your un you're not forgiving that you 188 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: don't even focus on things that are actually happening around 189 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: you that can actually benefit you, and people trying to 190 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm speak for myself, people trying to reach out to you, 191 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: and you're not wanting to hear them because you're just 192 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: so fuelled with anger and rage and you're just so upset. 193 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: But when I got to the point where I was like, 194 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: I am truly, truly, truly, truly going to forgive, it 195 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: was like a burden was lifted off of me my eye. 196 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: I felt lighter, you know, because it weighs you down, 197 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 3: you know, because I've got to the point, how am 198 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: I going to allow you to have this much control 199 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: over my life? And you have probably moved on. And 200 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: sometimes you're mad at somebody and they don't even know 201 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: the fraction that they've done to you, because sometimes people 202 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: are mad at people and they don't express it. So 203 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: you're mad and you're upset at somebody for something that 204 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: they didn't even know that they did wrong to you. 205 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: And the thing about forgiveness, a lot of times when 206 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 3: it comes to forgiveness, everybody thinks that. 207 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: Hold up, this is not about people that don't know 208 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: they did something wrong. I mean, we're talking about criminal 209 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: justice shit. You're typically talking about people that know they 210 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: stole from you, they they beat you, right did this? 211 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: So this is and just a you holding a grudge 212 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: for no reason on some social shit like this is 213 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: the next level, right, right, Like they're even less willing 214 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: to forgive this shit, right then this is. 215 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: The next level. But but you were talking socially first, 216 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: and so that's why I went into that because that 217 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: also goes on into if I'm not willing to forget 218 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: for that, No, I'm not willing to forgive for these 219 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: other things. 220 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 2: Right. 221 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe the same people that hold grudges forever 222 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: are prison abolitionists. I don't correct. I don't believe it. 223 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: And that's one of the real the core of a 224 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: lot of this shit comes down to that, Like James 225 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: Foreman kind of reduces and a lot of prison abolitionists, 226 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: police prison reform, police reform people do this. They hit 227 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: The crux of of his argument comes down to the 228 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: individual story, and the individual stories is about this kid 229 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: named Dante and how this man essentially uh forgave Dante 230 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: and went to court and advocated even as the victim 231 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: of don advocated on Dante's behalf, and the judge gave 232 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: him another chance, and Dante, you know, later went on 233 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: and I'll read that passage of later another time. But like, 234 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: it's about the fact that that man was brave enough 235 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: to see Dante as a full human being and forgive 236 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: him for what he had done to him, and not 237 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: just see him as a statistic to be thrown out 238 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: or a person who would harm me. So therefore he 239 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: must be put into the prison system and given the 240 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: harshest punishment. Because what I believe is that we hold 241 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: onto these grudges and gripes and stuff because many times 242 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: it is a privilege quote unquote that it is only 243 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: afforded to whiteness. And so black people want to hold 244 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: on to the grudges now because we've never been allowed 245 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: to have grudges before. We've never been allowed to hold 246 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: on to them. Our lives as well as our feelings 247 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: have never been validated. So that feels like validation when 248 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: someone says, hey, you're right, you're right, this person stole 249 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: from you. Now what do you want done with them? 250 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: And this is the first time any of us have 251 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: any level of power in some cases, and yeah, it 252 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: does feed the system, but if each it's a bunch 253 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: of individual choices that lead to a system that does this, 254 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: and it is our complicitness in it and our willingness 255 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: to throw each other out in order to prove that 256 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: we are human and that we matter. And so the 257 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: way that we've been showing that we matter and exist 258 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: is to be like, this motherfucker right here sold crack 259 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: to my aunt. I want them to go to prison forever, 260 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: because that is also showing that my life matters. And 261 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: we've been complicit in that, you know, and looking at 262 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: it now, it's like, well, this also helped destroy our 263 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: community because anytime there's a system in America, it's going 264 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: to be set upon a white supremacist chessboard. So you're 265 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: never going to have the even playing field that it's seen. 266 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: It's always gonna bend towards some type of black supremacy. 267 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Even if they abolish the cops, whatever replaces the cops 268 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: is gonna bend towards white supremacy if no one has 269 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: any plans. And so, but because this man forgave Dante, 270 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: but that man put his ego aside, Dante goes on 271 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: to be like a construction work. It's not like it's 272 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: some great and then he was president. It doesn't matter. 273 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: His life mattered and he got another chance and he 274 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: was able to make something with it. And there's a 275 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of Dante's in prison right now. And those Dante's 276 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: aren't just all getting there because some shit they did 277 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: to white people. Ninety percent of them are never because 278 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: of some shit dealing with black people, whether it's selling 279 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: drugs of black people, whether it's being within the community 280 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: and violence to black other black people, whatever. A lot 281 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: of those crimes are gonna be. They're never because of 282 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: things that the other side of that coin is black people. 283 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: And I think right now in this climate where we're 284 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: talking about reforming the police or abolishing the police, or 285 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: abolishing prison or restructuring prison, whatever words you want to choose, 286 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and I know the words do matter, but I just 287 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this a catch y'all. In the middle 288 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: of this conversation, I keep coming back to Dante, and 289 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to this thing. And I don't 290 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: know that people black or white or any other race 291 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: in America have it within them and this moment to 292 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: practice the radical forgiveness that it would take because we 293 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: like to save the shit on a systemic level, but 294 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: on an individual level. Am I gonna look at my 295 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: rapist and be like, I don't think prison is right 296 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: for this person. Am I gonna look at my at 297 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: the person who murdered my family member and say that 298 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: because that's what it requires. That's what everyone keeps skipping over. 299 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: I watched I watched The Daily Social Distancing Show. Obviously 300 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: I love The Daily Show, and Trevor Noah had like 301 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: a thirty minute interview with a bunch of black activists 302 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: and one white man who they talked about prison reform, 303 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: abolishing the police, reforming the police, defunding the police, all 304 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: this stuff, and it's a great interview. Everyone should go 305 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: check it out. Trevor Noah. I'm telling you, guys, he's 306 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: the best at this fucking job. If you're not watching, 307 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: that shit is really on you. He does nothing but 308 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: get better every day, and he has some conversations that 309 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: you will not see anywhere else on mainstream TV period, 310 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: and they're very black discussions that gear towards us. And 311 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: it's a real shame that people try to like destroy 312 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: that dude before he got started, and then when he 313 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: turned out to be good at the job and was 314 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: supported at the job. You folted your arms and walked away. 315 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: That's really a shame on all of us too, because 316 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: he's really good at that job. Anyway, he did this 317 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: interview with him, and he asked a bunch of relevant, 318 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: relevant questions that I wanted to hear, you know, and 319 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: they had a bunch of topics that I wanted to hear. 320 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sure they could have talked much longer. Sure 321 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: they edited some of that down and all that stuff. 322 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: But the thing I noticed in all these different discussions 323 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: is that people like to skip over the holes in 324 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: their argument or the situations that are tough. You know, 325 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: we talked about this on Monday. I believe while I 326 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: was like, people don't like to give any slack in 327 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: these arguments online because they're afraid that if they admit 328 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: there's a gray area that you'll just go fuck it 329 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: and I'm just going to go back to what we have, 330 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: you know, even though what we have is fucked up 331 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: and untenable and all that. I just, well, whatever you said, 332 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: you couldn't have you didn't have all the answers. But 333 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: I love this discussion because, you know, It was kind 334 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: of that thing where I learned more. I appreciated what 335 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: they were talking about. But I still have questions even 336 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: after watching that interview, and I think, what the discussions 337 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: we're having right now and what we're seeing trending online 338 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: and stuff, is now a time for people to be 339 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: he educated and to be educating themselves. The knee jerk 340 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: reactions and responses are not helpful, helpful or healthy. And 341 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: the fact that people know that there's gonna be knee 342 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: jerk responses and instead of reaching out with resources and shit, 343 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: they're just slamming people down is going to come back 344 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: to haunt this moment. This is a moment on the 345 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: precipice of change that we're never gonna get or we 346 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: haven't had, in my opinion, in my lifetime. I don't 347 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: know that we've had a moment like this where white 348 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: people want to listen and want to do what black 349 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: people are telling him to do. I don't think we've 350 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: had this moment. Maybe you could argue after the LA 351 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: riots in ninety two, maybe that's about it, you know, 352 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not even duram. Yeah, there's never been 353 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: a time in my life. Maybe after reconstruction. Maybe during reconstruction, 354 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't Yeah, I wasn't allied for that shit. Maybe 355 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: after MLK died, I wasn't allied for that shit. But 356 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: this is a time where black people are getting to 357 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: ask some things and get answers for things. They may 358 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: not be the answers you want, but people are moving 359 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: in these directions. And you know, this has come to 360 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: pass before and in many cases we questioned the progress 361 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: that was made no matter what, and this is what 362 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: is going to happen. No matter what progress is made 363 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: in these moments. We will look back and the generation 364 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: after this will say it wasn't enough, or it wasn't right, 365 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: or we made the wrong decision. It doesn't matter what 366 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: decision you made that this is one of the few 367 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: times where black people kind of get to be in 368 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: the driver's seat. And you know, whether it's abolishing the police, 369 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: and then we have lawlessness in the black community and 370 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: people feel like this is not what I wanted, like 371 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: like maybe that'll be it, or maybe it'll be you know, 372 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: we fund the police, and then it's like Detroit where 373 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: you call the cops and they don't show up for 374 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: an hour and everybody's dead. You know. I don't know 375 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like, you know, but what I 376 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: do think is it's not helpful to kind of yell 377 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: at these motherfuckers who are like, I don't understand, you know. 378 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's what it's gonna come down to, 379 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: because if you can't even if you can't even summon 380 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: the patience to talk to a person who wants to 381 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: be on your side but doesn't understand what you're talking about. 382 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about trolls. I'm not talking about conservative 383 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: people that you know, some racist motherfucker that's just trying 384 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: to fuck with you. I'm not talking about them, talking 385 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: about I'm seeing people not even have patients with folks 386 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: who are just like I never even heard of this term, right, 387 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: and they're just like, read a book, motherfucker. You're like 388 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Like, they're definitely not reading that book now, 389 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: and they're probably gonna be like, well, fuck this movie, 390 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm out. And that is a real thing. People. The 391 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: same way we have emotions as black people. The people 392 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: that come in and want to learn, whether they be black, white, whatever, 393 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: they got emotions too, Yes they do. They've been dealing 394 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: with this shit too, and on whatever terms they're dealing 395 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: with this. So you know, like this is a term 396 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: where people need to be a little more fucking gentle 397 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: on an individual level, because if you want to build 398 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: a coalition, you gotta build it. You can't build it 399 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: through only destruction. You want to get enough people on 400 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: your side to move the government, to move politicians, to 401 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: move the populace, and you're not gonna do it by 402 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: just fucking yelling at everybody that doesn't already know what 403 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: all these terms mean. So that's what I've been thinking about. 404 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: You know, defund the police means different shit to different people. 405 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Same thing with abolish the police, because I've seen people 406 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: that say hashtag abolish the police, and then they go 407 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: on and explain what abolition means to them, and it's 408 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: different than just you know, we cut the budget and 409 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: everybody turns in badges and guns and goes to fuck home. 410 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, what is this? What does this mean? 411 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: And people need to start flushing out these answers because 412 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the platitudes are not enough. It's enough for Twitter obviously, 413 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: you know, abolish the police trends and put it on 414 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: T shirt all that shit. But then when people actually say, hey, 415 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: we believe you, we think you have a point. What 416 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: is the plan and you just go, fuck a plan? 417 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: Fuck you go read a book. I don't know how 418 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: to fuck. That's supposed to help anybody. It doesn't. 419 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 3: And you know, it's one of those things to where 420 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: you're asking people people understanding. People know the system. The 421 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: current system we have is fucked up, but it's a 422 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 3: system that we have. You're asking people to look at 423 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: the system that we have and do something different. Most 424 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: people would agree, Okay, I want something different, I want 425 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 3: a change. There's different forms to these changes, there's different 426 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 3: ways you can do this, and people are trying to 427 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: learn what exactly does defund me? Like, how is it 428 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: going to look when it's implemented in real life? You know, 429 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: how is it going to look on my street and 430 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: on my block? How is it going to look? And 431 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: people act like there's something wrong with you when you 432 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 3: come up with really valid, valid questions that they don't 433 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: have answers to. And because we live in an age 434 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: where people just don't want to say a nigga, I 435 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: don't know, you know, they give you these buttery flowery 436 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: you know, sugar red coated answers and I'm looking like 437 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: but that don't answer the question. 438 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's why I come back down to what James 439 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: Forman Jr. Said, And that's what a lot of black 440 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: people are rejecting right now, and they won't be able 441 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: to see the connection and what I'm saying. But it's 442 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: absolutely true. It's there aren't two ways about this. It's 443 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: the reason that people mocked Nicki Minaj for marrying a 444 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: dude that went the prison for rape, you know what 445 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: I mean, because they really don't see that dude as 446 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: a human being that could be redeemed and that they 447 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: don't believe any of that. They don't like that she 448 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: married him or is dating him, and they and that 449 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: means something they think, It doesn't mean anything. You can't 450 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: be banned the box. And also I won't live next 451 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: to a person who's been to prison. You can't be 452 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: both of those things at the same time. So, you know, 453 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: and at the core of it is on that individual level, 454 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: if you don't accept that there needs to be forgiveness 455 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: as a value in society, as a value, a guiding principle, 456 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: none of this shit matters, not like not a fucking 457 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: word of it is true if you don't believe that, 458 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: And people don't believe that, you know, so I would 459 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: like to see because I can tell from the way 460 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: they approach it they don't believe that. So if it's 461 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: all bullshit, then leave me the fuck alone, you know. 462 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's a big part of it, 463 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: man is. And then and so I'm not even gonna 464 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: play the ring Raymo music. Let's just get into it. 465 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: But so the other thing too with this is people 466 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: are looking at the definitions, right, So from what I've gathered, uh, 467 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: from just online, right, And I mean, like I've read 468 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: a couple of articles and stuff, but it appears to 469 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: me not all of this stuff is set in stone. 470 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: So there's a lack to me of specific plans to 471 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: make this shit work. And different activists have different plans. 472 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: And because of the way that new activism is kind 473 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: of coordinated, where we don't have a leader and we 474 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: don't have a board, and everyone's a leader and everyone 475 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: has an opinion, which sounds great until you try to 476 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: order a pizza, right, Like, like all this shit sounds great, 477 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: and so you got to make some decisions. I'm not 478 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: even one who paying for it. I'm just saying, if 479 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: you're in a room with ten people and you go, 480 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: who wants piece, and they go, we all kind of 481 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: want pieces, Like, well, what do y'all want on it? Well, 482 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm not a leader everyone, I think everyone should get 483 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: an opinion. And it's like, well, one pizza with everything 484 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: on it, and motherfucker's like, I don't eat anchovies. I 485 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: don't who ordered the anchovies on top of the pineapple? 486 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: Who's I don't? Can I get my own individual one 487 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: slice of pizza? Like that's what you end up with, 488 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: And I think people don't want to reconcile with that 489 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: because if you say you're a leader and you say 490 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: you have a plan, you also end up being beholden 491 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: to the flaws in that plan, right, You also end 492 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: up also end up being responsible for implementing that plan, 493 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: responsible for putting people in place to implement these plans. 494 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard for me to listen to you know, 495 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: it's our personal opinion, obviously, but it's hard for me 496 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: to listen to activists that refuse to participate in any 497 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: level of political office with people running or to meet 498 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: with people, but at the same time say we'll have 499 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: these plans and then the politicians will implement them. Why 500 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: would they? How would they? You're not even willing to 501 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: talk to them about it. So like that to me, 502 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: that silliness, you know, and maybe we have to grow 503 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: out of that, or maybe that's just some radical shit. 504 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: I just will never be able to completely curl. It's 505 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: like someone writing into this show, I don't listen to 506 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: your show. Fuck your show, you ain't shit, But can 507 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: you change the way you do your form out of 508 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: your show? No, you didn't invest in this. I'm not 509 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: doing shit for you, you know, And so I think, 510 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of an interesting time where we're 511 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: seeing this stuff change on the fly, and maybe from 512 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: the long distance of history will feel differently. But so 513 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: what I've seen out there is like, defund the police 514 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: means a couple of things. The main thing it means 515 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: is to take the money out of the budgets of 516 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: these cities that go to police. Some of the time, 517 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the police get budgets that are like half the city budget, 518 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: and shit, sometimes over half. And if you've been around 519 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: since nine to eleven, you've watched the police become militarized 520 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: and weaponized in a way that policing was never meant 521 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: to be in the United States. There's no the terrorists 522 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: are never going to hit Ferguson, So why the fuck 523 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: is there you know, police and Ferguson to have a 524 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: hum vy or a tank or military Uh. 525 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 3: They never going down the street of rocky Ll, South Carolina. 526 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, or military body armor. Why do they have these things? Okay, 527 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: because if you have those things, guess what you're gonna do. 528 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna use those things. If you have tear gas, 529 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna want to use the tear gas. If you 530 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: have shields and riot gear, you're gonna want to use that. 531 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: If you have swat stuff, you're gonna want to use that. 532 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: If you have vehicles designed for you know, crowd control, 533 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna wanna use it. And so we when people 534 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: say defund I think they're talking about taking away these budgets, 535 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: talking about keeping you know, the weaponry, the vehicles, the 536 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, the body armor, all this stuff out of 537 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: their hands. And I could not agree with them more. 538 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: I this ship needs to go. I don't like, I 539 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: don't know who the fuck could possibly be looking at 540 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: what the police do even during these peaceful protests where 541 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: they are beating black people over the fucking head, pushing 542 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: old men down. Anyone who sees that and thinks there's 543 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: not a fucking problem here is insane. And it may 544 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: not be that. I don't believe that that you can 545 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: just pass some new rules. They need to not have 546 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: the toys. They don't know how to play with them, 547 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, so they need to give all the shit back. 548 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: They need to not have so many people employed by 549 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: the police. You know, when someone's pulling you over for 550 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: a fucking speeding ticket or some shit in that and 551 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: you fucking get your license registration out, look up, and 552 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: there's fucking ten police officers around here. 553 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: Yes, that's happening to you be scared shitting this. You'd 554 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: be like, the fuck. 555 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: There's too many of them and they're too afraid of us. 556 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: So the people they have don't even need to have 557 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: that job, you know. And I'm sure every cop has 558 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: a story of some motherfucker that tried to kill them. 559 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to I'm really not trying 560 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: to belittle that, because I'm sure that there's a traumatic experience. 561 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: But when the answer to that traumatic experience is to 562 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: weaponize your trauma, that's not okay. We can't be like, well, 563 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: you'll never get over that one domestic violence case with 564 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: a dude try to beat you up. So here's a gun, 565 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: and anytime you feel scared, pull the trigger and we'll 566 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: defend you in court. Police unions need to go. These 567 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: are not unions like for workers. These are not unions 568 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: like for school teachers. Defund the police. More people need 569 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: to get behind this because, and I believe because people 570 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: keep thinking it's gonna be like the police budget goes 571 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: to zero and then the fucking cops just go home 572 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: and then there's no police anymore, and motherfuckers are going 573 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: and doing whatever they want. That's not what it is. 574 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: And that's sad that people haven't explained it thoroughly enough, 575 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: and maybe they should have used a different terminology. I 576 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: will give you that, But at the end of the day, 577 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: this is our platform, so let me explain it right, 578 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: so now we don't have to worry about that question here. 579 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: Defund the police is something different than abolished police, right, 580 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: And I think more people would be behind this because 581 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: the idea of going from we have police that are 582 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: terrible too, we don't have any police at all. It's 583 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: something that most people will not be able to imagine 584 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: or support. And I'd rather win some than whin none, right, 585 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: because we're not getting to abolish the police from where 586 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: we are now today. We're not going to get there 587 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: that fast, and I think that's an important step. So 588 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: the other thing too is like, you know, this will 589 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: require us, you know, defunding some of the taking that 590 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: same money and then putting it into systems that prevent crime. 591 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Things like when you call nine one one. Police should 592 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: not show up for your relative who's having a mental 593 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: health crisis, because how often they end up killing these people. 594 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: They're not professionals trained for any of that. They have guns, 595 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: and that's what they want to do is use the gun, 596 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, So that should be a completely different number 597 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: with resources where we can have somebody come out and 598 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: help to either calm down or de escalate that situation, 599 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: something that we don't have right now. You know, even 600 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: when people aren't violent, we have people getting killed by 601 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: the cops, getting shot by the cops, you know, while 602 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: they're you know, in a mental crisis. You know, that's 603 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: not okay. You know. I do think we need to 604 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: also have a situations where we're giving money to schools. 605 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: We know for a fact, schools and schools. The money 606 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: you don't put in schools, you put in prison. Yes, 607 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: we know for a fact they're being studied. You after 608 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: study after study. That's shown you. Hey, if you don't 609 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: fund your schools, you always end up funding the jail. 610 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: So why can't we flip that fund fund the schools 611 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: and then we won't end up having a fund as 612 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: much jail. We notice for a fucking fact, you know, 613 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: the defunding our teachers. We're paying some of these officers. 614 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: You see them get you know, in these articles all 615 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: the time. This guy got suspended. He makes one hundred 616 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: and fifty k a year. And I'm like, we don't 617 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: pay teachers. 618 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: Shit, they struggling. Most of them end up purchasing a 619 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: lot of their own school supplies. 620 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Teachers have to buy their school supplies. Teacher in Charlotte, 621 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: North Carolina, people are having to privately fund the sporteen, 622 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: the sporting events at schools. At public schools, y'all. So 623 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: you got schools whereas like you gotta buy your kids uniform, 624 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: you need to, we gotta buy basketballs, We gotta that 625 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: is that is ridiculous. We have cut the budget that 626 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: low here, a very black city, by the way, we 627 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: have cut the budget that fucking low here. As a 628 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: population continues to spread, as the cop population continues to grow, 629 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: we are cutting the budgets for our schools. What does 630 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: that mean ten years from now? What does that mean 631 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: twenty years from now? We have police officers in our 632 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: fucking schools. So what happens now when a kid acts up? 633 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: It becomes a criminal thing. This is no longer a 634 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: thing that is handled in school. This no longer We're 635 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: now outsourcing this to fucking law enforcement. We talk about 636 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: these issues all the time on the show. I'd be 637 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: a fucking hypocrite to come up in here and be like, Nah, 638 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: this defund of police shit, I don't I don't get it. 639 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: I don't fuck with that. Like, no, I absolutely do 640 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: fuck with that. That is not that radical. But unfortunately, 641 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: because it's being explained by the most it's like socialism, 642 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: it's being explained by the most asshole people on Twitter. 643 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: So you end up with people with a visceral reaction 644 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: as a human being to the way they talking and 645 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: scold and everybody, and you're like, well fuck you. Then 646 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, but this idea is it is time. You know, 647 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: it's beyond time. How many times we talked about prison 648 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: and being like, they charge you to fucking talk to 649 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: your family. People that don't talk to their family are 650 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: more likely to re commit another crime and be right 651 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: back up in prison. So they're literally feeding themselves off 652 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: of you. You don't have the money to keep yourself 653 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: out of prison again, You're done, you know. So we 654 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: have to change the police numbers man, the way they budget, 655 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: the way they get money, because police also are money 656 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: making organization for these cities. 657 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: Yes they are. 658 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: Okay, this this this this black tax they put on 659 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: us with warrants and all kinds of stupid ass like 660 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: rolling stops, and just stay in our communities looking for 661 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: any fucking small utterance of the like, just any small 662 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: iteration of us fucking up the law. Right any Oh, 663 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: this motherfucker right here through a plastic bag on the ground, 664 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: litteringh Oh, this motherfucker right here standing in front of 665 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: his board building, loitering. Oh, let's just stop and frisk 666 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: them and hope we find some weed. 667 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: Cool. 668 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: We know for a fact that studies show white people 669 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: use drugs more than black people. White people violate the 670 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: law in their cars more than black people. Black people 671 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: still go to jail, jail way more because they are 672 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: fucking making a tax on our lives. That's what the 673 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: that's what the police are. They're just another of a 674 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: system that is traumatizing and penalizing black life in America. 675 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: So I don't have any loyalty to the police. I 676 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: don't have any loyalty to the idea of their sense 677 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: of law and order. They have never protect and served me. 678 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: They've served us up, but they've never protected and served us. 679 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: They don't do that duty. You know. Is would I 680 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: have a problem with the police if they treated us 681 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: the way they treat white folks? Probably no. It's the 682 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: reason white people don't have a problem, right, So that 683 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: would be different because the white people have minimal police 684 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: in their neighborhood. Police only come when they call, and 685 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: they call, they do their job they're supposed to do, 686 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: and then they fucking leave. Now, unfortunately, that doesn't seem 687 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: to be on the goddamn table for black people. So 688 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: I say, you just defund they ass We're always on 689 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: the other end of the stick, you know. I would 690 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: love for a cat to get stuck in a tree 691 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: and I feel like comfortable I could call the police. 692 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, I've been as a suations where I probably 693 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: should have called the police and was like, I don't 694 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: know if they gonna come and kill me or come 695 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: and kill this other person. I don't want anyone to die, 696 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, Like this shit is crazy, you know, so 697 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone can look at what is 698 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: happening in the world today and you know, really feel 699 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: like this idea is too crazy. You know what, you 700 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: don't think hospitals need money. You don't think schools need money, 701 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: like you are you living in a jurisdiction where every 702 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: time a fucking bond comes up for schools or new 703 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: roads and shit, it keeps getting shut down. You don't 704 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: think these communities need money. Like, instead of gentrifying these communities, 705 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: how about we fucking restore some of these black communities 706 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: so that we you know, so we're not just displacing 707 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: black people over and over and over again. 708 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: In our city, they move from the south side to 709 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,959 Speaker 3: the north side, to the east side to the west 710 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: side every ten to twenty years. 711 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: So I think you have to see what before you 712 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: get all scared of these words. I think you have 713 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: to see that these words did not arrive today like 714 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: the slogan might trend today. The idea has been out 715 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: there for a while. If you look at the preponderance 716 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: of evidence, if you've been listening to this show for 717 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: more than today, then you know, every fucking it's like 718 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: with like clockwork, every day there's a story where cops 719 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 1: did this, cops did that, prisons are doing this, prison 720 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: is doing that. You know that the summation of all 721 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: of that evidence leads to one thing, which is, at best, right, 722 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: we have to reform the entire way police do work. 723 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: Now because this is kind of a radical thing that's 724 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: been going around on Twitter and shit with defund the police. 725 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: You have a lot of politicians and a lot of 726 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: people that are like scared of it right away. And 727 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't blame them because the groundwork hasn't really been 728 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: done too educate people, and everyone's asking questions is basically 729 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: get and lambasted and and I'm sure that those people 730 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: who ask questions actually represent way more than just themselves. 731 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: They represent the majority of people in the United States 732 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: who are hearing about this term today, right, So that's 733 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: not I don't think that's a good way to teach them. 734 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: But I've seen where Biden and Sanders both said they're 735 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: not with defunding the police. They actually want to provide 736 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: them with more resources for training and to give them 737 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: more money to uh, you know, to monitor police officers 738 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: and to change these different things. And I'm not even 739 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: necessarily against that stuff as far as the programs. My 740 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: thing is why they need more money to do that. 741 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: They already got too much money. How about y'all sell 742 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: some of them fucking vest or something, you know, how 743 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: about this, don't take the hum V out this weekend 744 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: and use that money for the training. They have too 745 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: much money as is. Like, I don't want to defund 746 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: the police. I want to refund the police, Okay. I 747 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: want I have a ninety day receipt. Okay, I know 748 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: it's been at the ninety day. 749 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 3: I mean because it's your taxpayer's money. 750 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: I want my mother fucking money back. That's what I want. 751 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to see just uh, 752 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: let's not increase the budget. Nigga come back give me Okay. 753 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: Motherfucker's out here. Can't even clean the subway every day 754 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: until COVID hit. Like what is going on out here. 755 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got potholes in the streets for years. 756 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: They all right, mother fucking water is dirty in people's 757 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: cities and shit like it's so much shit. This money 758 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: could be going to where these niggas don't have to stunt. 759 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: I don't even see cops riding together in cars no more. 760 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: Each of these niggas got their own car. What happened? 761 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: I watched all these buddy cop movies. I was told, 762 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: y'all be in the car, mad at each other, making jokes, 763 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: and now look up, and this nigga's just riding dolo. 764 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: Come on, y'all got too much money, you know, little 765 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: po dunk towns with like six people in them and 766 00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: niggas riding around and fucking hum v's with goddamn assault 767 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: rifles and shit, what who are you right? Because we 768 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: see it. 769 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: I was like, the fuck is this? 770 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: Like, y'all gotta get the fuck out of here, man, 771 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: So you know, so I would say that, man, I 772 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: don't think that idea is that radical. Now, the abolished 773 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: the police idea is radical, and it is probably beyond 774 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: most people's perception to imagine a world without police at all. 775 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: And I mean part of that's indoctrination. Right. We're Americans, 776 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: we were raised in church, we were raised in a 777 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: world where things happen, and we feel like justice is 778 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: something happening back to the person that did the thing. 779 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: And I think that idea, to me, is the one 780 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: that is probably the more flaky one, because when you 781 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: start asking questions, that's when people start shifting and giving 782 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: you non answers, right, And I noticed the non answers, 783 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: and I don't like. I feel like the abolished police 784 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: people are trying to gaslight folks. And I wish they 785 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: would just come out and be honest and say, we 786 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: don't have all the answers and we are kind of 787 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: hoping to make this up on the fly. I wish 788 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: they would say, yeah, to. 789 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,720 Speaker 3: Just tell people the truth, because when people start asking, 790 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 3: like those real questions that actually matter, people are dismissed. 791 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 3: Because when you tell somebody okay, I want to abolish them. 792 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 3: And the next question is what will take its place? 793 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 3: Because bitch, something's going to take its place. I'm sorry, 794 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: you know, I understand you want to abolish, abolish it. 795 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: And then what well, I give you a great example, 796 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: abolishing slavery, right, the abolition of slavery. I think everyone 797 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: would agree. Great thing. We all agree that's what should 798 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: have been done. What took its place right, sharecropping in 799 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,959 Speaker 1: many cases, which is essentially slavery with more steps. Shout 800 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: out to Rick and Morty. You know, so you like 801 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: this idea of I'm so pure, I refuse to engage 802 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: in any part of the solution. I just am here 803 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: to destroy the institution. Seems cool on social media. It's 804 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: a great stance to take to make yourself look good 805 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: and patch yourself on the back. But then when I'm like, 806 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: so what are you leaving us to? What then becomes 807 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: the program? You know? In a daily show, you know, 808 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: I think Trevor Noah asked about this, and then one 809 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: of the women, one of the people that was there, 810 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: was like, well, I have a daughter. You think I 811 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: don't worry about my daughter getting kidnapped? I mean, you know, 812 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: And that was her answer. And I was like, that's 813 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: not a fucking answer. No, no offense to her, you know, 814 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: but you're you're shuffling the deck on me and playing cards. 815 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: If somebody gets kidnapped in the world where we don't 816 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: have fucking police, what does that mean? What is the answer, 817 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: they're not assholes for wanting to know. They don't They're 818 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: not against you because they have a question and a 819 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: real legitimate concern if even if we don't have police 820 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: as much, crime is a function of police creating criminals 821 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: and as a as a as a resource and all 822 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: this shit. I get that. I get that. Not not 823 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: against you. There is gonna be crime still, Yes, So 824 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: then what does that mean for me? What does that 825 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: mean for you? What does that mean for our society? 826 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: What does that mean for even restorative justice? Like people 827 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: don't want nebulous answers of it's gonna be different for 828 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: every situation. And how do you feel like that that 829 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 1: people don't want to hear that? 830 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 3: That's not an answer because for me, bitch, I want 831 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 3: to know what happened to the people to go fuck 832 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: your restorative justice. I don't care about your rules. What 833 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 3: are you gonna do with the people that are habitual 834 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 3: people who are like, fuck it, I'm gonna rape. Rape 835 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 3: is what I do. What are the people that like, 836 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna rob, rob is what I do? Okay, how 837 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 3: many times I get caught, this is what I do? 838 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 3: What do you do with those people? Because those people 839 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 3: do exist. 840 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a bit big. That's the big 841 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: that's the big thing that they don't want you to 842 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: talk about, right And and they just kind of make 843 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: fun of you for asking, as if it's not a 844 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: real concern. You know. I don't know if they've just 845 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: never had it happen to them, or if they're just 846 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: so gung ho that they don't give a fuck about 847 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: other people feeling a way about it, or maybe that's 848 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: the answer, is that nothing's gonna happen, you know. Maybe 849 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: maybe they are scared to say that. You're gonna have 850 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: to learn to forgive people that do horrible things to people, 851 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: and we're just gonna have to let that go either way. 852 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: You need to answer it right. 853 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 3: Right, because I need to know, because this is the thing. 854 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: I can forgive you and still be like, lock you up. 855 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 3: I can do both. I can say I forgive you 856 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: for what you've done to me, but you need to 857 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 3: go to jail. I as a victim, have that, right. 858 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people will argue that that that you can't 859 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: do both, you know, or maybe in this system you 860 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: don't have that option anymore, right there, you know, And 861 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: if that's the case, just say it just I just 862 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: need to know. Like it's like they want me to 863 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: go look behind doing number one, look behind doing number two, 864 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: and then I go, okay, so before I pick what's 865 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: behind them, you know, and they go one of them, 866 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: They're like, we can kind of tell you what's behind this. Okay. 867 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna take this money. We're gonna put it in 868 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 1: other resources. We're gonna strip down the police department. We're 869 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna make sure they don't have as many people, they 870 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: don't have as much power, they don't have as many weapons, 871 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: blah blah. We're gonna put more money in schools. We're 872 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: gonna put more money in medical care. We're gonna put 873 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: more money in these other resources and fire departments that 874 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: have first responders all the shit. Right, No one hates 875 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: the fire department because the fire department does a specific 876 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: job and they do it hopefully well, but they do. 877 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: They have a specific job. Right, we all love the 878 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: fire department. They show there's a fire, these niggas show up. 879 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: Somebody get a heart attack. These niggas show up like 880 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 1: they have a specific job. Right, cops have anevolous job, 881 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 1: you know. Are they hunting down a burglar? Are they 882 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: here to intimidate you from doing crime? Are they here 883 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: to avenge the crimes that have already happened? Are they 884 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: here to just keep black people in line? Are they 885 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: here to keep a stalker away from your house? 886 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 3: Like? 887 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: What are they here for? What is that? Are they 888 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: here to get cats out of trees? Right? We call 889 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: them heroes, but we also want them to look like 890 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: a paramilitary organization. What the fuck do they do? What 891 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: exactly are they? Why isn't shit specific for them? Right? 892 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: And so that so like there's one avenue that seems 893 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: pretty well thought out and explained. There's this other one 894 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: where they're just like, imagine a new world? Imagine? Isn't 895 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: it fun to imagine? And and I think it is 896 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: fun to imagine for some people, But I feel like 897 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: there this isn't a fun thing for a lot of people. 898 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 1: This is life and death. So I need an answer 899 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: as to what happens, because you know, we do the 900 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: ali alias for everybody out of jail. What does this 901 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: mean for the black women that I love who have 902 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: been stalked by somebody and the only thing keeping them 903 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: away is that there's a jail, or there's a restraining 904 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: order or there's you know, some fear that some you 905 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,760 Speaker 1: know that the police are gonna get them? What about 906 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: you know we do have these stories or someone's online 907 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot up a fucking school. I'm gonna kill 908 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: everybody in that bitch I'm saying it on Facebook. See 909 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: you bitches in the morning, all your kids doing, and 910 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: the police go out there and get them. Do we go? Oh? Man, 911 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that, man, Like 912 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: we need something else to happen. Like I do understand 913 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some fucked up, ugly situations that 914 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: we don't have very nice answers for. But I would 915 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: like people to be honest about that. 916 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 3: Upfront, right and tell me and tell me the truth 917 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 3: because for me personally, when I hear that, I hear lawlessness, 918 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 3: Like I don't okay, Like in my mind, okay, what happens, 919 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 3: who's accountable, who's responsible, who's gonna enforce shit? Because people 920 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: will continue to do crimes and they need to be 921 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 3: accounted for. Like I understand forgiveness, Yes, I can forgive 922 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 3: all day long, but just because I forgive you don't 923 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 3: does not me I you should be able to function 924 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 3: and run around free all the time, you know. And 925 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 3: and the thing is the promise that there needs to 926 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 3: be different levels according to what you do, you know, 927 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 3: but you still have to have a system, something in place, 928 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 3: someone to enforce these things. Because the thing is, what 929 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 3: what do you have when you say abolish police and 930 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 3: then the KKK decides it wants to ride again? The 931 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: fuck am I supposed to do? 932 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? That's these are the questions I have, and I 933 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: think those are legitimate questions, Like, okay, so we send 934 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: all the officers home. I'm cool with that. I don't 935 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: necessarily feel beholding to these motherfuckers, but I do recognize 936 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm sending a bunch of well armed, white racist men 937 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: into this world and we don't have any force. We 938 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: don't have any anyone that's supposed to regulate these people anymore. 939 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: You know, this is still America. We're not taking all 940 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: the guns away, no, you know, No matter how wild 941 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: these imaginations are, I still haven't seen anyone pitching let's 942 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: let's disarm everybody, you know. So this is a world 943 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: where everyone still got guns. And if you look in 944 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: America who mostly got the guns? It ain't us, you know, 945 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: So I you know, I do worry about the safety 946 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: of the black community within this. You know we I 947 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: know we want to stop like there's just put it 948 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: this way, I guess the best way to sing. Though 949 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: we've been talking about this forever. There's gonna be consequences 950 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: no matter what the fuck people do. And I don't 951 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: think it's cute to say I'm for the most radical 952 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: thing ever. But also I'm not a leader, so don't 953 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: look at me. Everyone's equal, so don't. Also, I'm not 954 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: gonna replace this with anything, because I don't want to 955 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 1: be blamed for whatever the fuck shortcomings the replacement has. 956 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm just with get rid of everything. Fuck it. And 957 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: when we say okay, fuck it and start over. Yeah, 958 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: just start over. Okay, what what will you be part 959 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: of the start over? 960 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 5: No? 961 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: Just fuck it, start everyone. I just know that this 962 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: is bad, and I think that puts feel like people 963 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: when America kitches the oh, we get the coronavirus, we 964 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: get still getting the same fucking situation because we're still 965 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: living in a white supremacist nation and there's the only 966 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: thing that has really seemed to work for black people 967 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: has been some of these rules. That's why. When because 968 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: I actually read the article. I know most people didn't, 969 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,240 Speaker 1: but that's why when I saw the Joe Biden headline, 970 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: the op Eddy wrote about I don't want to defund 971 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: the police. I actually want to give him like three 972 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,720 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, And I was like rolling my eyes 973 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: and I went read the shit and I realized what 974 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: he's trying to do. He's trying to do something that's 975 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: actually worked before, which is kind of his his thing. 976 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's trying to basically do what they did 977 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: with affirmative action. Now you'll have people that go fuck 978 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: affirmative action, blah blah blah. But affirmative action versus what 979 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: the fuck we have without it? I think most of 980 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: us know we we were better off with it at us, 981 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have the jobs we have right now because, unfortunately, 982 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: what affirmative action recognizes is that this is a white supremacist, 983 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: racist country, and when left to their own devices, white 984 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: people would rather hire white people who are actually unqualified 985 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: but a friend. And if two candidates were equal and 986 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: ones white, they would pick the white person one hundred 987 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: percent of the time. And when we know this from 988 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: years and years and years of nepotism and whiteness, running shit. 989 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: The only way to get people to do this is 990 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: the past laws that says, hey, hey, one, that's illegal. 991 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: You gotta have some black people at your job too 992 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: if you don't. If you do this, we will incentivize 993 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: you with money. Okay, this is still a capitalist country, 994 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: so that money talks, and so you'll have these motherfuckers 995 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: that go, well, I guess I'll hire some blacks because 996 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: look at this, we get more money from the gouvernment. 997 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: We get more tax breaks, we get more stipends, so 998 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 1: we'll get more government contracts. So now we're gonna hire 999 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: some black people. We would have been happy hiring none. Okay, 1000 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: still putting those black people in more mostly hostile environments. 1001 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: But you know it's gonna be fucked up no matter 1002 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: what the decision is. So this is the fucked up 1003 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: that helps some black people as opposed to fucked up 1004 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: that would have helped none of us. Right. I read 1005 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: that that op ed and I realized he's trying to 1006 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,879 Speaker 1: do the same thing with police because he remember, policing 1007 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: is mostly a small government problem. The federal government really 1008 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 1: can't do much about policing, even when they are willfully 1009 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: like the police are corrupt, and bad. The most they 1010 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: can do is a study some fines. They're not they're 1011 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: not in the business or even with a capacity to 1012 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: go district by district and fix each police force. You know, 1013 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: Obama and Eric Holder had a will to fix things, 1014 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: and the most they got was like the Ferguson Report, 1015 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: which was beautiful and it solved a lot of It 1016 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: answered a lot of questions and speculation. They turn a 1017 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: lot of anecdotal stuff into actual legitimate statistical evidence, right, 1018 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: very very powerful. To this day, that Ferguson Report proves 1019 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 1: without a doubt to any person who's questioning the black experience, 1020 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: that police monetize the over policing of black people and 1021 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: they turn it into a way to fuel the economy 1022 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: of their jurisdiction. We know that for a fact now. 1023 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: Black people been feeling that, but we fucking know, right, 1024 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: But there's only so much they can do. They can't 1025 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, fire your police chief, hire this many 1026 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: people from the community, Okay, disband your police department. They 1027 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: can't only do so much area, right, So this is 1028 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: how federal government tricks local government. They go, here's a stipend, 1029 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: here's three hundred million dollars would you like some of 1030 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars? And in the greed of these 1031 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 1: local municipalities, they normally go, yeah, we want some money, 1032 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: and they go, okay, you can have some money. Here 1033 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: are the rules you have to have. So you are 1034 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: now signing a contract with the federal government. You're now 1035 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: clicking agree to these terms, click and accept, and you 1036 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 1: are going to accept, and they go haha, got your ass. Now, 1037 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: anytime you do some racist shit, we now have some 1038 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,720 Speaker 1: jurisdiction to come in here and be like, we're firing 1039 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 1: this motherfucker right here, okay, because you agreed you would 1040 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 1: not do these things if you took this money. Now, 1041 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: what I think of I mean, I think everything has 1042 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: limits from the federal government. But what I would be 1043 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: more concerned about is that some of these local jurisdictions 1044 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: will say, well, if the fucking city is giving us 1045 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: half the budget, I don't need one blank percentage of 1046 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand million dollars. I don't care like, keep 1047 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: the money. We want to continue to be racist. That's 1048 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: what I think would happen. Now, we don't know for 1049 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: a fact because it has been implemented. Just so all 1050 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: this shit is theoretical right now. But that's what I 1051 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: would be concerned about, is just your local police department 1052 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: being like, we don't want to be in the program, 1053 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Money, Yeah, fuck the money. 1054 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: I just want to be racist, Like I'm already racist 1055 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: and paid bitch, you know, like I could I could 1056 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: see them doing that, you know. But yeah, that's what 1057 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: people didn't understand. They're not gonna read it, and they 1058 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: don't they don't care. They don't like Biden or whatever. 1059 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I mean, I 1060 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: don't even care because the reason by is the candidate 1061 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: is because it's a white dude. It won't matter. In 1062 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: a week. This ship that he said won't even haunt him. 1063 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: What Friday will be off of this. This is what 1064 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: the fuck it is with this dude. So yeah, man, 1065 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of what some of my thoughts going on 1066 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: in my head about all this, uh defund the police, prison, abolitionist, 1067 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: all this shit. And of course the other element I 1068 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: forgot to get into is uh yeah, activist is beef 1069 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: into So you got all that going behind this shit too, 1070 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: because I know Campaign zero did a thing where it's 1071 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: like eight can't wait, is this initiative where they want 1072 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: to put some restrictions on the police and pass some 1073 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: new reform laws and stuff. And then some very smart 1074 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: non black people on Twitter. I don't know if that 1075 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: matters to y'all, but I just want to point it 1076 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: out the threads I saw some non black people broke 1077 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: down the statistical analysis of why eight can't wait is 1078 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: not a good enough plan and why only abolition of 1079 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: the police and only h only defunding the police and 1080 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: stuff can work. And I don't I don't disagree with 1081 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: that at all. I think that I looked at the 1082 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: statistical breakdown of why the shit that wouldn't work the 1083 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: way that they said, and it looked it made sense 1084 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: to me. It wouldn't work like some of this stuff 1085 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: they wanted to pass. You know, you can't escalate for 1086 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: us until you exhaust all other recourse. You can't use 1087 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: a choke holde, you can't do this. And it's like 1088 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: a lot of these places already use these things and 1089 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: they still kill black people at will. So these aren't 1090 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: really solutions. And I said, you know what, that's a 1091 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: good point. You know what am I gonna do? You 1092 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: know what? I mean, not admit that like, you made 1093 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: some good fucking points, this is not enough, and they 1094 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: until that credit. You know, the dude Sam from that site. 1095 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: He was on the Daily Show as well. They backed 1096 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: off of it, and they changed the initiatives on the 1097 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: site and they added prison i mean police abolition to 1098 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: it and all this stuff, and you know, and and 1099 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: I think that was a good thing. You know, I think, uh, 1100 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 1: I think Brittany Pacnetty might have left the fucking organization 1101 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: behind all this shit, so you know, I know, she's 1102 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of blowing up in the activist sphere, so they 1103 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: might've lost the rider, you know, behind this ship. And uh, 1104 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't already don't like Deray. A 1105 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know. It's kind of like the 1106 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: Sean King thing, where I know Deray and Shaan King 1107 00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: don't fuck with each other, but a lot of people 1108 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: just in general don't fuck with either one of them, 1109 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 1: or they have their own gripes against them. And you know, 1110 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 1: that's why I don't really try to get on here 1111 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: and like advocate for any singular activists because I don't 1112 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know these niggas, and I don't know what. 1113 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 3: They know happening behind the scenes. 1114 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't know any of this shit. But 1115 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: the point being, like a lot of those people have 1116 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 1: been waiting for ammunition and talk shit about day, to 1117 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: talk shit about campaign zero, to talk shit about all 1118 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: of this stuff, you know, And so they made a 1119 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 1: missed up in a lot of people's eyes, and now 1120 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: they getting roasted, you know. And is that really for 1121 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: the movement? Is that really for black lives? I don't know. 1122 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: I never know what these activists what's for black lives? 1123 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: And what's this nigga cut me in line at Popeye's 1124 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 1: one day? I never know, you know what I mean? 1125 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: So I try to stay away from that shit, but 1126 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, I will see. 1127 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 3: Man. 1128 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: I think right now it's a beautiful time to be 1129 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: alive because a lot of fury is a reality. Yes, 1130 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things that have in theory are at 1131 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: least being questioned to see if they could become reality. 1132 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1133 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 3: And the thing is, I'm not against hoping and dreaming 1134 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 3: and things like that. I'm completely not against it at all. 1135 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 3: My thing is that you have to get most people 1136 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 3: to a place where they're allowed to dream. And if 1137 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm wanting about dying right now, dreaming ain't on the 1138 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 3: top of the agenda. 1139 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know, man, I it's a beautiful time, 1140 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just looking at it that way, like 1141 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: it's dope that people are actually listening, and I'm not 1142 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: trying to get into the these people is stupid and 1143 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: these people are smart. I really, I can only be 1144 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: honest about or I'm gonna only be honest about shit. 1145 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't truly understand all the workings of the abolitionist thing. 1146 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 1: It feels a little bit more hippie in the sky 1147 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: type of you know, like and it's just beautiful to 1148 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: dream what imagine a world? And I don't know that 1149 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: there's a place on earth that has no police, that 1150 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: has no you know, when someone does a crime, just 1151 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: nothing fucking happens at all. I don't know a place 1152 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe it exists and I just haven't heard 1153 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 1: of it yet. I have read a couple of books. 1154 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: I read Agela Davis's Book of Freedom is a constant struggle. 1155 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: I've read of course, Locking Up our Own, I mean, 1156 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, and I have more too to read, like, 1157 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 1: like I still have so much on my kendle to read. 1158 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I mean, everything has limits 1159 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: because humanity is limited and people do things all the 1160 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: time without really fitting into these neat little lines. So 1161 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see you know, I know, we talked 1162 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: for an hour about police and all this stuff and 1163 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 1: all this and whatnot, and we're gonna try to get 1164 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: it to some other stuff. But with this conversation has 1165 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: really felt like something we needed to at least touch on. 1166 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Yes, Butterfly guy, I can go twice to side. 1167 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 1: Take a look. It's in a book, reading Rainbow. 1168 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 3: I I can go. 1169 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Anywhere, friends to know, waste the growth, reading Rainbow. I 1170 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: can be anything. 1171 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 3: Take a look. It's in a book a reading Rainbow, 1172 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 3: Reading Rainbow. 1173 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: So you decided to put a music up though, Yeah, 1174 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: it's the longest reading Rainbow. 1175 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 3: About time we broke our own personal records. 1176 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that's an hour and three minutes of reading Rainbow. 1177 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 3: So you know what, we had a lot to say, y'all. Yeah, 1178 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 3: because we have been talking about it earlier. 1179 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Karen was Karen's come around a little bit not 1180 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,919 Speaker 1: well in the mic because she was completely against all 1181 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: this shit. 1182 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Oh I was mad at first, What the fuck is this? 1183 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: I was like, why are you so angry? These are 1184 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: just ideas? None of this shit is even real yet. 1185 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 3: Not understanding trying to put it all together, because you know, 1186 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm like a lot of people. You're hearing these words 1187 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 3: for the first time. Everybody's giving the definitions. You're trying 1188 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 3: to compute. You're trying to wrap your mind around the 1189 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 3: concepts and what do they mean and how do these 1190 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 3: things like that human beings directly impact me. 1191 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's good to see. Uh see you get 1192 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: on the mic, and you know, it was a little 1193 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: different in the car. 1194 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 3: But I'm yeah, I calmed down. I was kind of 1195 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 3: hot in the car. 1196 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean these you know, these are ideas from 1197 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 1: people trying to So all right, let's see, Uh should 1198 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 1: we start? I guess I guess it's stars with coronavirus stuff? 1199 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 3: What about said that the bitch still around? 1200 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Of course I ain't forgot. I was right. 1201 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't forget. You know, it's but you 1202 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 3: know the way the news and stuff going, they talking 1203 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 3: about everything but coronavirus. 1204 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: All right, Have I done? Man? I don't want to 1205 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 1: go coronavirus. Have we done this one? 1206 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1207 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Let's see. As the coronavirus pandemic brings life across the 1208 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 1: country to a grinding halt. Americans are facing you normal 1209 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: their jobs, losing their company. You don't why not? 1210 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 4: Right? So? 1211 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Why let I view that? 1212 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 4: I mean? 1213 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 2: Is this that? 1214 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: Any day? I feel that in my eyes? I don't 1215 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: want do my soul it's that you. When they got 1216 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: watch and shut they life I pretty little giant comps throng. Obviously, 1217 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: hey was I don't wind up good. I don't wind 1218 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: up go. I don't wind up good. 1219 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 3: I don't wind up go. 1220 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't wind up go. I don't wind up go. 1221 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: You don't wind o, right, I do that shovery day. 1222 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 4: I get that in my heart. 1223 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to bet my swool. It is not 1224 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: about when they did watch something like I'm betting what 1225 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 1: jock comes to them of his leg cause I. 1226 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 3: Don't win out gool. 1227 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't wind up go, I don't wind up good. 1228 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't wind up go. 1229 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 4: I don't win up good. I don't don't know. 1230 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: That's the all song. 1231 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 3: Oh no, that song was not about coronavirus what like? 1232 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: He played a clip from the news about coronavirus and 1233 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: he just said, I don't want to go And what 1234 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: kind of accent was that was that supposed to be Jamaican. 1235 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that sounds like me and justin trying 1236 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: to do Jamaican accents when we talked about Luke Cage 1237 01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: that was that was horrid. 1238 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 3: I'm very very confused by this coronavirus song. 1239 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 1: Jesus, I get that. Then they know, yeah, that's that's 1240 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: that's one of the worst ones you ever played. As 1241 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I get further down on this list, are getting mad. Y'all. 1242 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: All right, so coronavirus non states where COVID nineteen hospitalizations 1243 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: are now spiking at the reopening, you know say, because. 1244 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 3: You know what, it's a lot of shit happening. You 1245 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 3: got the states reopening at the same time the protests 1246 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 3: are happening. Yeah, so we don't know which group is 1247 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 3: gonna be in there, the people that are like, I'm 1248 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 3: getting my hand nails dead, or the people that's like 1249 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,479 Speaker 3: black Lives Matter. 1250 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Well, the Black Lives Matter stuff has just turned two 1251 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: weeks old, I believe for the George Floyd protests. So 1252 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 1: this should be about the time where we start seeing 1253 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of if people were getting it out there, 1254 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: this is about the time we're gonna start seeing it 1255 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,959 Speaker 1: pop up. Non states are seeing spikes in a number 1256 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: of people. That, by the way, and it'll keep rising 1257 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: because more and more people can coming. And that that 1258 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: didn't peak until probably last week, and maybe it's still peaking. 1259 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, they're gonna be out there. Someone might 1260 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 3: be outre for a while. 1261 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this weekend, I saw marches all over the world. Yes, 1262 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: and so many. 1263 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 3: People, like almost people as farcial. 1264 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 1: They had masks, but they didn't have social distancing, and 1265 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, so you just got to hope that that 1266 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: people are okay, you know. Anyway, non states have seeing 1267 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,520 Speaker 1: spikes in the numbers of people who have been hospitalized 1268 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,919 Speaker 1: for COVID nineteen since Memorial Day. As Arizona's Health Department 1269 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 1: holds hospitals to toe the hospitals to activate coronavirus emergency 1270 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: plans to prepare for a surge in new cases. Coronavirus 1271 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,719 Speaker 1: hospitalizations have been increasing in at least non states, mostly 1272 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 1: in the south and northwest of the country over the 1273 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 1: past two weeks. Arizona, Texas, North Carolina, and Utah are 1274 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 1: among those who have seen record spikes and hospitalizations since 1275 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: the coronavirus pandemic broke out in mid March. Yeah, I 1276 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: it's funny because. 1277 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 3: We were doing good until they was like, let's slowly 1278 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 3: open up. 1279 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,639 Speaker 1: I don't even feel like we were doing good because 1280 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 1: of that. I think once the I think we're gonna 1281 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: see a spike because of those the protests too. 1282 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 3: Man. 1283 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 1: I just don't know how we don't. Yeah, you know, 1284 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: I have a friend who's an activist, and I see 1285 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 1: her out there all the time at night, and them 1286 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: people are not six feet apart. They be having their 1287 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,640 Speaker 1: masks down so they can yell and shit, they not 1288 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: doing this stuff. And I, you know, I'm thankful for them, 1289 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,719 Speaker 1: and I you know, I'm glad my black life matters 1290 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 1: to them and all that stuff. But I worry about 1291 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,959 Speaker 1: their black lives because this shit affects us more than anybody. 1292 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 1: And if these hospitals get full, what are they gonna 1293 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: do with us? You know, I'm nervous. There's not good. 1294 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: There's some things that just there's not a good. I 1295 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,720 Speaker 1: know I'm supposed to feel inspired and feel good. That's 1296 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 1: the right way to feel, but I don't feel inspired 1297 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: to feel good about some of this shit. The little 1298 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: girl out there protesting and they keep showing her on 1299 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: the news, I'm like that little girl doesn't get to 1300 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 1: be a baby, you know, she don't get to be 1301 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: a little girl. She's born into the fucking fight. 1302 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 3: Man Like. 1303 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: It's sad, It's not like it makes me angry that 1304 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,680 Speaker 1: she can't be just a kid. She gotta be out 1305 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: here protesting for no justice, no peace. And she knows 1306 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: who George Floyd is and why he died at such 1307 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 1: a young fucking age. Man, this shit is all It's 1308 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,679 Speaker 1: just bad. It's just complicated, man Like. I'm proud of her, 1309 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, Like she gives me hope to a certain extent, 1310 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 1: but she also shows me how much hope doesn't mean shit. 1311 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: Because how many people hoped our kids wouldn't be having 1312 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 1: to do this. 1313 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:36,759 Speaker 2: I agreed. 1314 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 3: Uh. 1315 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: The increase in hospitalizations in those non states has occurred 1316 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 1: as the state's reopened and large gatherings were held across 1317 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: the country over the Memorial Day weekend. All those states 1318 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 1: apart from Mississippi, are now virus hotspots after all seeing 1319 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: increases in the number of infections of the past week. 1320 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: The uptick, which could lead authorities to reimpose or tightened 1321 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 1: strict public health restrictions, complicates efforts to reopen the economy 1322 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 1: that have been devastated I stay at home efforts that 1323 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: were placed across much of the US. More than one 1324 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve thousand Americans have now died for coronavirus 1325 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: and one point nine million have been infected in the 1326 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,719 Speaker 1: past three months. Arizona, which has was among the first 1327 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 1: states to reopen from lockdowns, has seen the surgeon hospitalizations 1328 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: and cases in recent weeks. The number of positive suspected 1329 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,679 Speaker 1: hospitalized one of the last ones that close to probably, 1330 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's a Republican place, I believe, so. 1331 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't that the trip the last ones to 1332 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 3: close or the first people to open back up. 1333 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so funny because I saw an interview on 1334 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 1: the Daily Social Distance show where Trevor Noa was talking 1335 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 1: to a dude that was forget who we worked for 1336 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 1: CDC or WHR. So he was like, it's weird. No, 1337 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: it was the mayor, it was the governor of California 1338 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 1: and Gavin knewso I think, and he was just like, yeah, 1339 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,680 Speaker 1: it's weird that people are calling in a lockdown or 1340 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 1: not lockdown or reopened. Every restate that reopen got restrictions. 1341 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Every state that stays locked down has some freedoms. No 1342 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: one did a complete lockdown in America period. 1343 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 3: Right where nobody could move around. 1344 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, only maybe New York, you could argue, but they 1345 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: have people going to work using subway all that shit. 1346 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: No one's one hundred percent lockdown, so that terminology makes 1347 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 1: no sense. Americans are misusing household cleaners to come to 1348 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: combat COVID nineteen. 1349 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Oh shit, what they're doing? 1350 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so apparently people have been using the cleaners in 1351 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 1: ways that are not suggested. Nineteen percent of responders said 1352 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: they were using bleach to wash their food. What bitch, 1353 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,719 Speaker 1: what in the food line is happening here? 1354 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 3: I guess they want all their food to be white. 1355 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,719 Speaker 1: Eighteen percent use household cleaners to wash their hands or body, 1356 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 1: so they're not using so open is all you need? 1357 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 4: Yes? 1358 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 5: It is? 1359 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 1: What are y'all mo fucking taking? Bass in common and shit? 1360 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 1: Bleach like the like. 1361 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 3: The corn almost not like y'all skin. 1362 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 1: Six percent ad minute to inhaling vapors from household cleaners. 1363 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Oh you're just getting high and at four percent a 1364 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 1: minute to drink and are gargling diluted bleach of other 1365 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:27,600 Speaker 1: household solutions? No? Why oh no, David, No. 1366 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 3: I understand. I was paranoid because I thought Corona was gone. 1367 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna walk outside and Corona was 1368 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 3: just gonna be be up. But I wouldn't that bad. 1369 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,680 Speaker 3: I knew not to do that. You know, the the 1370 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 3: labels on the side when they get instructions, dude, those 1371 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 3: that should still apply, Like bleach is still bleach mindigga. 1372 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Don't be out here in helling bleach vapor. Okay, anybody 1373 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,520 Speaker 1: got a problem with selling good old fashioned regular drugs, 1374 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: you should tell me that. You know what's wrong with 1375 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,839 Speaker 1: with just good old fashioned regular drugs, regular ass drugs. 1376 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,759 Speaker 1: Mm Mmm, I'm good with all of that. That's y'all. 1377 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Scare me. Okay, Oh all right. Lets Seven mistakes you 1378 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 1: shouldn't make at a reopened restaurant. Okay, h well, I won't. 1379 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,799 Speaker 3: I wouldn't know because it's probably gonna be pos friends 1380 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 3: see us again. 1381 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 1: Mistake one going that's what I saying, that's what we 1382 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 1: have right now. 1383 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 3: We're like, no, we're just order, y'all, y'all come here. 1384 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 1: Number One, eating inside. If the restaurant you're going to 1385 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 1: that outdoor seating, it's safer than eating indoors. Air Conditioning 1386 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 1: may spread the virus and you won't have to worry 1387 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,680 Speaker 1: about that in the open air seating two. Putting your 1388 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 1: mask on the table. People putting a mask on the table. 1389 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean you can just take it and put it 1390 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 3: around your neck. Well, I guess depends on what kind 1391 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 3: you have on. 1392 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, put it in your person or your pocket 1393 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 1: if you have to, if you have to. 1394 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 3: Because you know, some go on around. 1395 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, but put it on the table though. You're definitely 1396 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,639 Speaker 1: picking up whatever was on the table. Yeah, touching everything 1397 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: and not washing your hands. I mean that was a 1398 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 1: mistake before. 1399 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 3: The phone the Coronavirusna, that's how ship spread before. 1400 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 1: That's not due coronavirus. For ordering shared appetizers. Oh yeah, 1401 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 1: you go out with some people, right, yeah, like, oh yeah, 1402 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,679 Speaker 1: let's all eat the depth and then dipping it back. 1403 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,759 Speaker 1: And I guess I don't. 1404 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 3: Know, particularly with people that you're not quantine with. You know, 1405 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 3: we're quarantined together, so we shared. We already got what 1406 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 3: the other one got, but you know, we go out 1407 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 3: with somebody else, we don't know what they got. If 1408 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 3: they've being property social desisting. 1409 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure that uh, I'm not really sure 1410 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: that would matters that much because you should be like, 1411 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: it's only then don't touch your face, Like I hope 1412 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 1: you're not eating and touching your face during this time. 1413 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Like even when I eat delivery or something from home, 1414 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 1: I just don't touch my face until, like I wash 1415 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,640 Speaker 1: my hands and all that shit before I put it 1416 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: in different containers. I do all the shit, but just 1417 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 1: in case I slipped through, I don't touch my face 1418 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 1: until after I'm done eating, and then I fucking then 1419 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I'll wash my hands again and all that. So sitting 1420 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: near the air conditioner don't do that. Well, you told 1421 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: us not to sit inside. 1422 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 3: Right, so that that condition all to just be coming since, 1423 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 3: I mean it's getting ready to be one hundred degrees 1424 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,800 Speaker 3: in a lot of places pretty soon. So a lot 1425 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 3: of people are like, I'm not sitting outside. 1426 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: My mask, be feeling weird just getting into the car. 1427 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, WHOA, I hope I don't pass out. 1428 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,439 Speaker 3: I didn't realize it got so, you know, cause this 1429 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,639 Speaker 3: shit started in March. It was cool. Now you walk 1430 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 3: outside your your your whole bottom and upper lip just 1431 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 3: break down the sweat. You're like, shit, what is happening? 1432 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 1: Don't wait for your table by the host stead cause 1433 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,679 Speaker 1: I guess that's a lot of high traffic area people 1434 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 1: be coming down breathing five not leaving a generous tip. 1435 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 1: That's a big mistake people are making right now, guys. 1436 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're getting less, they're getting less people in. 1437 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 1: They can't everyone can't eat inside. They're risking their lives 1438 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 1: to serve you the ship. I get it. Yeah, tip 1439 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 1: them better, tip them. Well, if you're not already. 1440 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 3: Doing that, correct, you should have been doing before because 1441 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 3: you're not cooking right. 1442 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,479 Speaker 1: All right, let's see, let's get into some other new 1443 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 1: segments here. 1444 01:17:31,479 --> 01:18:17,880 Speaker 4: Guys, there is something. 1445 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 1: I wanna ask you, that's something that I want to 1446 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 1: know that said, just what sine? 1447 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,599 Speaker 4: You have your side? 1448 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 1: So tell me what I want to know. 1449 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 4: Do you wanna funk? Do you wanna funk? 1450 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 1: Won't you tell me now? Won't you tell me now? 1451 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:54,679 Speaker 4: If you wanna funk? 1452 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 1: And let me show your house? Do you wanna farm 1453 01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 1: with me? 1454 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:01,679 Speaker 4: Mama? 1455 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:07,879 Speaker 1: Fun with me? All right, let's get to this horrible, 1456 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 1: horrible news segment. 1457 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 5: Uh. 1458 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 1: LGBTQ news is what we got to talk about our 1459 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 1: LGBTQ fame, especially within the black community. But all the 1460 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 1: news stories that are affecting them, and as as as 1461 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 1: bad as it is for everyone else, it's terrible for them. 1462 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: We catch a flood, we catch you cold, they catch 1463 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: a fluke okay for straights. Uh, And yeah, let's get 1464 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 1: in to it. So the biggest story of the last 1465 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 1: couple of weeks has been black trans woman Ianna Dior 1466 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 1: was attacked by a mob. Now she did survive, Thank god. 1467 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 1: I did not watch this video. I have no fucking 1468 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 1: interestings in this video. I don't watch videos of the 1469 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 1: cops beating of black people. I don't want to watch 1470 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,719 Speaker 1: a video of black people mobbing up on another black 1471 01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: person on some transphobic shit. And from my understanding, the 1472 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 1: reason that it happened was because she was like moving 1473 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 1: somewhere a friend's card, and she bumped a couple of 1474 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,719 Speaker 1: cars or something, and then all of a sudden people 1475 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,920 Speaker 1: were dragging her and trying to beat her up in 1476 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 1: the convenience store. No one trumped into help. I don't 1477 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,720 Speaker 1: even think the police were called, which you know, as 1478 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 1: a prison abolitionist, I guess I don't want to call 1479 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 1: SICH I would pick up the fucking phone so fast. 1480 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm trying to tell you, I will use my 1481 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 3: name to its fullest power, right. 1482 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what visions of this in the ways 1483 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 1: that visions of me watching as a black man, watching 1484 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,680 Speaker 1: black men get killed by the cops fucking horrify me 1485 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 1: and just make me feel trauma and stuff. I can't 1486 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 1: imagine being a trans person and watching this and then 1487 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 1: it's happening from your own community. And of course we 1488 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: know that within the black community, trans women are being 1489 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,760 Speaker 1: killed at a much higher rate than anyone else, and 1490 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 1: within the trans community, black trans women are being killed 1491 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,720 Speaker 1: at a much higher rate than anyone else. In a 1492 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Facebook video shared after the attack, which why are you 1493 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,080 Speaker 1: sharing a Facebook video? They want you to see this ignorance. 1494 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 1: It's the same reason why people share racism Facebook, where 1495 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 1: we're like, why would you share that? That makes you 1496 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 1: look bad? They don't think it makes them look bad. 1497 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: That's how fucking pervasive transphobia is. They feel like, yes, 1498 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 1: sharing this because this is how it supposed to be. 1499 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: In a Facebook video shared after thetack, she explained she 1500 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 1: been trying to move a friends car where she hit 1501 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 1: parked cars in the neighborhood what she described as a 1502 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 1: hood gang area. Door said she offered to pay one 1503 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: person five hundred dollars for the damage, and that she 1504 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: wanted to get gas stationed as to get to the 1505 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 1: gas station. It's Timber's flair. I wanted to get to 1506 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 1: the store because that's the only thing that's running through 1507 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 1: my mind is if I'm going to die, I'm gonna 1508 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 1: down camera as a last think. You have to think 1509 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,160 Speaker 1: of that. To think, you have to think of that. 1510 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 1: That's crazy. As of last week, neither Minneapolis nor Saint Paul. 1511 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I made this analogy before. I know 1512 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 1: a lot of black dudes hate to hear me say 1513 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 1: this shit, but I really don't give a fuck. What 1514 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? We are like the police in 1515 01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 1: our own communities at times, you know what I mean? 1516 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 1: The way that people that we as black men fear 1517 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: being around the police, and we get all the arguments 1518 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: of police. Of all, not all police is bad. Well 1519 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 1: if a police do that, this is a bad apple 1520 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 1: and all this shit, well, what twenty bad apples beat 1521 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 1: this woman up? Not one good apple in the bunch, 1522 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,679 Speaker 1: not one to intervene in. But what are y'all doing? Stop? 1523 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 1: None of that shit happened? And then we have the 1524 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 1: nerve to be like, why are you making me feel bad? 1525 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,360 Speaker 1: Because it's happened, Like you should feel bad. This is 1526 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 1: part of our culture. This is us doing this, you know. 1527 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,600 Speaker 1: And I know there were some women that participated in 1528 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:03,400 Speaker 1: this shit too, you know, like straight people are dangerous 1529 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: and you wonder why, Well, I can't believe trans people 1530 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: don't just expore, Like, why aren't you just telling me 1531 01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,200 Speaker 1: right away what's going on with your genitalia and all 1532 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 1: this shit? It's like, cause, nigga, you are fucking dangerous, 1533 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 1: you know, Like I get like you are dangerous? Why 1534 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 1: tell you anything? I'm trying now, it's a survivor. I 1535 01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 1: don't know if this is a survival encounter or what. 1536 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,600 Speaker 1: You know. I would love to see you get the 1537 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,560 Speaker 1: benefit of doubt because we're both black. But so a 1538 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 1: lot of people killing trans people. So yeah. Uh. As 1539 01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 1: of last week, neither Minneapolis nor a St. Paul police 1540 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,519 Speaker 1: department had received official reports. Even still, the story of 1541 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,760 Speaker 1: people ganging up to hurt a black trans woman struck 1542 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 1: up brutally familiar core with many. According to the advocates 1543 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,679 Speaker 1: for the Human Rights Campaign, at least twenty six trans 1544 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,599 Speaker 1: and gender knock forming people were killed in the United 1545 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 1: States last year. The majority of the victims were black women. Already, 1546 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: the campaign says twenty twenty has seen death of at 1547 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 1: least twelve more people. We say at least because too 1548 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 1: often these stories go unreported or misreported YEP. The names 1549 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 1: of this year is following include Tody McDade, the black 1550 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 1: trans man who was allegedly killed by police in Tallahassee 1551 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: only days before Dior was attacked, and the day after, 1552 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,759 Speaker 1: George Floyd, another black man, was killed by Minneapolis police officers. 1553 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: LGBTQ lgbt Q plus people historically and currently face higher 1554 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,880 Speaker 1: race of violence in their straight insist gender. Fred Piers 1555 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,519 Speaker 1: out Front Minnesota, a queer trans advocacy groups, had on Wednesday. 1556 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 1: These races of violence are drastically increased by b b 1557 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,600 Speaker 1: i PLC, Black, Indigenous people of color, lgbt Q plus communities, 1558 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 1: and the trans community, especially trans women of color, also 1559 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 1: frequently faced violence from the police. Yeah, call the police. 1560 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:53,160 Speaker 1: They what they're gonna do? Are they even gonna helps? 1561 01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,719 Speaker 1: Medor is supposed to a few videos as the footage 1562 01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 1: of the attack got out, mostly thanking people for their help. 1563 01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 1: She's received the outpour and the support for the transcommunity allies, 1564 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 1: as well as donations. If you want to help, donate 1565 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:09,880 Speaker 1: to a cash app handle dollar signe ayanado is is 1566 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:15,639 Speaker 1: iya n n a d io. And sometimes I feel 1567 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 1: bad about that too, because like, we don't have justice 1568 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:24,000 Speaker 1: for people, so we community go fundme raise money for 1569 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 1: folks in its wake because we know we're not getting justice. 1570 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 1: And that goes for victims of police violence, people of 1571 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,400 Speaker 1: transphobic violence, all this stuff, like, well, we know we 1572 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 1: can't get you justice. Here's some money. 1573 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:35,639 Speaker 3: Yep. 1574 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh we had to break hold on second, Yeah, we 1575 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,840 Speaker 1: got cut off. My bad. I wasn't looking at the cloud. 1576 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:48,080 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next story. JK. Rowling is back 1577 01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 1: in the news for being transphobic again. Man, that's crazy. 1578 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,160 Speaker 1: I would not have called that like back in the day. 1579 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 1: Like now, I know she's a well known she's probably 1580 01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 1: at this point a well known transfer person, but man, 1581 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 1: like that is crazy. She don't like money, She don't 1582 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 1: give a fuck. I don't even think she got all 1583 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:07,799 Speaker 1: the money. 1584 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 3: That's true, that's probable. Maybe she don't care. 1585 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: And she just don't give a fuck. She thinks she's 1586 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,360 Speaker 1: really fighting for the vice of cisgender women that are 1587 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,880 Speaker 1: somehow under attacked from the existence of trans women fame 1588 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 1: Harry Potter and JK author JK. Rowling is still under 1589 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,840 Speaker 1: fire for making anti transgender remarks on Twitter over the weekend, 1590 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,920 Speaker 1: and then she wrote a long aass blog. I think 1591 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 1: she talked about being sexually assaulted in it, which I'm 1592 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: not really sure how that plays into being transphobic, so 1593 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, and it also plays into this idea that 1594 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 1: trans people are all like rapists and shit, and that 1595 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 1: the only reason that someone would want to transition to 1596 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 1: a womanness for access to women to rape them, which 1597 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:57,040 Speaker 1: is a big thing that even though despite all factual 1598 01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: evidence pointing that this is the case, who needs facts 1599 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,959 Speaker 1: when you're fearful, okay, facts, fear over facts. I'm scared. 1600 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:12,800 Speaker 1: So I'm scared and I don't understand. So I think 1601 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 1: I think I get I get to say you don't 1602 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,480 Speaker 1: get to say shit instead. 1603 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 3: Of me saying nothing real, just spew all this hatred. 1604 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 1: What's more, Well, you know what's more powerful, scared white 1605 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,840 Speaker 1: woman or a scared cop. I don't know. Real. 1606 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 3: Race Yeah, race to the top, Race to the finish line. 1607 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 1: When asked to comment on Roland's tweets that attacked with 1608 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 1: the validity of transgender women's sexuality and spurred an intense 1609 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,920 Speaker 1: backlash on social media. Universal Parks and Resorts, which hosts 1610 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: the Wizarding World of Harry Potter theme parks and rids 1611 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,040 Speaker 1: a furtherest commitment to the version of inclusion. Our core 1612 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 1: values include diversity, inclusion, and respect for all of our 1613 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,719 Speaker 1: guests as well as our team members. Our theme parks 1614 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,160 Speaker 1: are places where people and families of all types are 1615 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,680 Speaker 1: welcome to enjoy their time together. Beyond that, we have 1616 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 1: no further comment. So, I mean, they didn't really say much. 1617 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: That's not I mean, I was they didn't side with her, 1618 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 1: but you know it's not like they but the bar 1619 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,759 Speaker 1: is the floor. She made the bar of the floor. 1620 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,080 Speaker 1: So literally just being like these niggas are people is 1621 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,800 Speaker 1: enough for most people. Universal Park statement arrived on the 1622 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,519 Speaker 1: hills of two biggest stars of Ralling based properties, Eddie 1623 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Redmain and Daniel method Maine. I'm just kidding Daniel Radcliffe 1624 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 1: both of making separate public statements disagreeing with the author 1625 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 1: and asserting their transgender women are women. So both of 1626 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,720 Speaker 1: these sister gender white men get it. Yeah, because the 1627 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 1: thing is. It's so big. 1628 01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 3: They have like a whole as theme parks, whole as 1629 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:46,360 Speaker 3: like areas of like amusement pars, like cruises, you name it, 1630 01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,599 Speaker 3: it's Harry Potter something attached with it. 1631 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so JK continues to do the most and least 1632 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 1: at the same time. I honestly, I let me tell you, biggot, 1633 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:02,400 Speaker 1: you make people so fucking stupid. Honestly, think about what 1634 01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Let's say she really believes let's say a 1635 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of y'all believe us, y'all really walking around this 1636 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:15,080 Speaker 1: earth like fuck trans people. She makes so much money 1637 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:21,200 Speaker 1: to just let them use the license to Harry Potter. 1638 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,960 Speaker 1: She honestly could shut the fuck up for the rest 1639 01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: of her life about this. No one would ever have 1640 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 1: to know she hates trans people, and no one would 1641 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 1: ever have to know that like it like it would 1642 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 1: never like it wouldn't would It hasn't made her any 1643 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,519 Speaker 1: money hating trans people. You look at the people who 1644 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 1: got her back, and it's a bunch of white supremacists, 1645 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,360 Speaker 1: all right, type people and bigots and shit like it's 1646 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of people that, like it's just crazy. She 1647 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,200 Speaker 1: couldn't have just kept it to herself. I know in 1648 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 1: the ideal world, everyone gets it. It's like the restorative 1649 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,200 Speaker 1: justice thing and the ideal world that God goes. I 1650 01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 1: don't want to rape no more. Thank you for helping me. 1651 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,519 Speaker 1: But we don't live in an ideal world, right, So 1652 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,000 Speaker 1: let's say some people in the world are like, I'm 1653 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna keep raping. Some people in the world are like, 1654 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep being a transphot But couldn't you keep 1655 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,200 Speaker 1: it to yourself? Though? It's that crazy to ask? No, 1656 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, if I like, I don't really have any 1657 01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: type of one of these bigger trees. So let's make 1658 01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:24,080 Speaker 1: one up. If I hated Albanian people, like my thing 1659 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 1: was I hate Albanian people for no fucking reason. I 1660 01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 1: just I'm racist against Albanian people. If that was my thing, 1661 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 1: why the fuck would I need to come out and 1662 01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 1: tell y'all that's my thing. It don't affect nothing, It 1663 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:40,599 Speaker 1: ain't gonna make me no money. It's only gonna piss 1664 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,599 Speaker 1: somebody off. Even you know, it's gonna piss people off 1665 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: on the other people's behalf. She can't even approach it 1666 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,240 Speaker 1: from that perspective of just nope, there's nothing to gain 1667 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 1: from me. 1668 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 4: Here. 1669 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 1: No, and every argument against trans people has been made, 1670 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,439 Speaker 1: so JK. Rowling making an argument is not gonna change 1671 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,760 Speaker 1: the landscape. Is only gonna turn people who thought you 1672 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 1: might probably had no opinion or assumed the best of 1673 01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,400 Speaker 1: you and thought you were supportive into being like fuck you. 1674 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:14,639 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, that's man. That people really be hating 1675 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,960 Speaker 1: they do. It's not smart. Oh my god. Anyway, Monroe 1676 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 1: berged off. I don't know if you remember when we 1677 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 1: talked about her, but she is a trans woman who, 1678 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,080 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, spoke out. Was it against L'Oreal 1679 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,200 Speaker 1: or just the fashion industry's systemic racism, and they got 1680 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,800 Speaker 1: rid of her. I think she was like, I think 1681 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:45,040 Speaker 1: she was already Uh yeah, let's see. Yeah. So what 1682 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,639 Speaker 1: happened was on Twitter, someone sharing shooter. I think it's 1683 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,719 Speaker 1: say their name has been leading away with the hashtag 1684 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,320 Speaker 1: call pull up or shut up. So basically people put out, 1685 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,920 Speaker 1: these black lives matter to us today, guys, I think, 1686 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:03,160 Speaker 1: welcome us to the cookout, and and then everyone goes, oh, man, 1687 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 1: look at Laureal. They care about black lives this year, 1688 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 1: and they pull on some old shit like remember remember 1689 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: when you had said remember this and so I do 1690 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,720 Speaker 1: remember we covered on the show how they basically were like, 1691 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 1: we have inclusion. We got a black trans woman, and 1692 01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,360 Speaker 1: then she started expressing some pro black opinions and it 1693 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 1: was like, Uh the fuck. We said diversity on the cover, 1694 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 1: not diversity in the brain. What you're doing in here 1695 01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:33,680 Speaker 1: with these other opinions in life? 1696 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:35,320 Speaker 3: Real diversity? 1697 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:41,200 Speaker 1: Right, So several brands shared their demographics are like who 1698 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 1: works for them and all that shit in many cases 1699 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,160 Speaker 1: initiatives to fix areas where they fall short. On June ninth, 1700 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,360 Speaker 1: Lorel Parish UK announced it would be adding model Monroe 1701 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,439 Speaker 1: berged Off to its newly created Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Board, 1702 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,200 Speaker 1: as well as donating to two organizations that support members 1703 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 1: of the LGBTQ plus community in the United Kingdom. Public 1704 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:04,080 Speaker 1: statements least by both parties shared that Laurel Paris current 1705 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:09,599 Speaker 1: president Delphine Viguier, spoke with Bergdorf this week to discuss 1706 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:13,559 Speaker 1: inclusivity within the company. This comes three years after the 1707 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:17,400 Speaker 1: brand ended the partnership that it had with Bergdorf. Burgdorf, 1708 01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,479 Speaker 1: the first trans model featured in a campaign for Lorel 1709 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,599 Speaker 1: Paris UK after she spoke up against the systemic racism. 1710 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,320 Speaker 1: Though Bergdorf does not intend to forget about what happened 1711 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,160 Speaker 1: in the past, she wants to use it in her 1712 01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 1: platform to move forward and promote growth and change. Girl, 1713 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,840 Speaker 1: you better get that dishue money. Okay, I ain't mad shit, 1714 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 1: anybody call yourself off this. Fuck them they broke anyway, 1715 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 1: Come on, they broke and they don't smell as nice 1716 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 1: as you're gonna be smelling. Fuck them. In her statement, 1717 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,879 Speaker 1: Burgdorf rod, I thought it would be a perfect opportunity 1718 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,599 Speaker 1: to practice what I preach and take up that seat 1719 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 1: at the table to be representation that we deserve as 1720 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,600 Speaker 1: a community. Like what, there's the other thing. We have 1721 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 1: to stop knocking people for trying to be part of 1722 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 1: the solution after they been on the outside advocating to 1723 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 1: be part of the solution. What's the point of having 1724 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 1: all the answers and none of the power, all the 1725 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,360 Speaker 1: answers and no influence and none of the responsibilities. 1726 01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,080 Speaker 3: Some people are licking like that because once you come in, 1727 01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,679 Speaker 3: you're actually held accountable and responsible for everything you say. 1728 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,240 Speaker 3: And then shit get real, well you go, oh, I 1729 01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:20,320 Speaker 3: got to implement this shit. 1730 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know if a lot of people have 1731 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,360 Speaker 1: been knocking her, but if so, cut it out, like 1732 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 1: we need people like this. She clearly is down for 1733 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,320 Speaker 1: the community. She ain't worked in, you know, or she 1734 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,880 Speaker 1: hasn't worked with them in three years because she's stood 1735 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 1: up for black people. So now that she getting some 1736 01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 1: change off of this shit and some mobility to affect 1737 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 1: change for other black folks and other brown people and 1738 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 1: LGBTQ people. Man, y'all, nothing but the best for monro bergdoff. 1739 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,280 Speaker 1: Glad we got a happy ending to that story, even 1740 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 1: though it took three years, and you know, obviously fucked 1741 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 1: them for them three years because clearly we know they 1742 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 1: didn't renew that shit because she stood up for black people. 1743 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Of course, let's see and let the brat Phiel's weight 1744 01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,320 Speaker 1: has been lifted since coming out as a lesbian. 1745 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,559 Speaker 3: You know, I always thought she was not on. 1746 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,760 Speaker 1: The low on the high key everyone thought she was. 1747 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,800 Speaker 3: I always thought she just didn't say nothing. 1748 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,680 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but she was still in a 1749 01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:24,799 Speaker 1: male dominated industry that, in their opinion, women are supposed 1750 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,240 Speaker 1: to be sexy. And I remember when she kind of 1751 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 1: came like she was already out as a rapper, and 1752 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,519 Speaker 1: it was kind of She had a very like quote 1753 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,760 Speaker 1: unquote tomboyish look to her, and so everybody was kind 1754 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,120 Speaker 1: of like, oh, yeah, she could grab They kind of 1755 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 1: gravitated towards that. But then there was this push at 1756 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 1: one point when Little Kim was out that every rapper 1757 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:46,800 Speaker 1: after her that was a woman needed to be a 1758 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:47,400 Speaker 1: sex symbol. 1759 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she looked so uncomfortable doing that. 1760 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember that was I can't remember. It's 1761 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 1: like a Keen magazine a source, but they tried to 1762 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 1: like sex her up for a summer. Everyone was like 1763 01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,799 Speaker 1: really like, oh my god, the brat and she fine, 1764 01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 1: she the wind and got this, that and the other. 1765 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,719 Speaker 1: But it was always kind of like, really it felt 1766 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,560 Speaker 1: to me inauthentic, like what, I'm gonna listen to the 1767 01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 1: Brat rap about fucking dudes and shit like it just 1768 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:17,000 Speaker 1: seemed like that's you know what I mean. Like, so, 1769 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 1: when you have this influence in the industry of all 1770 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,120 Speaker 1: these men telling you not only not to be out, 1771 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 1: but you need to be sexy and appeal to men 1772 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,519 Speaker 1: to sell your album, uh, to be to exist in 1773 01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,000 Speaker 1: this industry to be around me, And we heard what 1774 01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,720 Speaker 1: like people like Rick Ross said about letting rappers on 1775 01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,040 Speaker 1: this track that are women and shit like that. So 1776 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,920 Speaker 1: there's a lack of respect for women in general, and 1777 01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,639 Speaker 1: a definitely lack of respect for your sexuality. They don't 1778 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,920 Speaker 1: given a fuck about that, you know, to this day, 1779 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,880 Speaker 1: I still go up for Laurence Hill because I mean, 1780 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,720 Speaker 1: she had carved her own lane. At that time. It 1781 01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,560 Speaker 1: was it was and it was a time where you 1782 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,439 Speaker 1: could have a Laurence Hill and a little Kim and 1783 01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,479 Speaker 1: it didn't have to be a battle between who's the best. 1784 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,679 Speaker 1: It was just these are two different type of women 1785 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,160 Speaker 1: with two different lanes, and neither one of them talking 1786 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,600 Speaker 1: shit about the other one. You know, I wish we 1787 01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,360 Speaker 1: could have that back, And I feel like we're getting 1788 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,599 Speaker 1: that a little bit now, where you're starting to see 1789 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,559 Speaker 1: more and more women rappers that are in the game 1790 01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,080 Speaker 1: and they're not making the whole point of I'm the 1791 01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:17,439 Speaker 1: baddest bitch. But also, let me tell you, these other 1792 01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,760 Speaker 1: bitches ain't shit like they just like it's like I'm 1793 01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 1: the baddest bitch and you the baddest bitch. We all 1794 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,080 Speaker 1: the baddest bitch. Let's do it. Let's put on the 1795 01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:23,559 Speaker 1: track together. 1796 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 3: And I'm fine with that, and people and people that 1797 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,640 Speaker 3: like there's something wrong, can only be one No, we 1798 01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:28,519 Speaker 3: all could be here. 1799 01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know that it was always kind of 1800 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:37,839 Speaker 1: fucked up, you know, but yeah, she finally felt now 1801 01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,720 Speaker 1: that she could kind of come out, you know. And 1802 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean and I mean, no one owes it to 1803 01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,960 Speaker 1: anyone to come out, you know, I think it might 1804 01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,799 Speaker 1: it probably not. Probably, we know it has a positive 1805 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,400 Speaker 1: effect on younger kids to see like people thriving and 1806 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,479 Speaker 1: being LGBTQ and open and proud and out and all 1807 01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 1: this stuff. It does help the younger kids because when 1808 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,280 Speaker 1: you're fourteen thirteen and you're alone and you feel like 1809 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,839 Speaker 1: it's wrong for you to feel this way, your parents 1810 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 1: and your church and all these people make you feel wrong. 1811 01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,559 Speaker 1: And then the people you think would be your icons 1812 01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,120 Speaker 1: are forty and they're still not living that truth. There's 1813 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 1: part of you that go, oh, it never gets better, 1814 01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,519 Speaker 1: Like I'm always have to live with this inside. So 1815 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's always to me a celebration when people 1816 01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,680 Speaker 1: come out, but no one owes it to you. You know, 1817 01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,439 Speaker 1: people still running up on Queen Latif for like, she 1818 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,679 Speaker 1: owes something to the community that's not to me, that's 1819 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,559 Speaker 1: not something you owe. It's just something you celebrate when 1820 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,760 Speaker 1: people feel that weight lift and that the freedom to 1821 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:41,120 Speaker 1: come out and be like, hey, this is me. So yeah, 1822 01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,120 Speaker 1: she explained the variety. Why the time now, the time 1823 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,680 Speaker 1: was now right to publicly claim who she is. I've 1824 01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,760 Speaker 1: always felt like being private is the better way to 1825 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,280 Speaker 1: go because then you don't have to say, have so 1826 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,800 Speaker 1: many people in your business. I was fine staying quiet, 1827 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,680 Speaker 1: but my partner is a social media mogo. That's how 1828 01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,320 Speaker 1: she became who she is. And when you get with somebody, 1829 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:00,800 Speaker 1: you have to meet in the middle. So to me, 1830 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,599 Speaker 1: the middle was just letting everybody know, hey, she's the one. 1831 01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 1: Brad said that making her relationship public wasn't planning. It 1832 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 1: was spontaneous. Jester. That came a part about she in 1833 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:15,400 Speaker 1: dupart when they were looking at pictures, Jessica was showing 1834 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,080 Speaker 1: me some pictures. We were going back and forth, joking 1835 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,800 Speaker 1: I'll posted, no, I'll posted. So when she did, I 1836 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, I just came out after twenty 1837 01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,000 Speaker 1: something years. But it feels good to share with the 1838 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,559 Speaker 1: world when you're happy. Brad added that she never felt 1839 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 1: pressured by her label so so depth to hotter sexuality, 1840 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,080 Speaker 1: but she had said in the past that it wasn't 1841 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,679 Speaker 1: cool back in the day, which to me is pressure. 1842 01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 1: I was always told you want to be fuckable to 1843 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 1: men and women to sell records. You don't want anybody 1844 01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,680 Speaker 1: to discriminate. She says, it was absolutely my decision. I mean, 1845 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,200 Speaker 1: you saw what happened to people like Ellen, remember when 1846 01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 1: she lost her TV show and all that horrible things 1847 01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,439 Speaker 1: that happened. People were totally against it. That's a great 1848 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 1: point if they because you know it's black people. If 1849 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:59,680 Speaker 1: they took a white woman TV show away, you know 1850 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't sitting around like my turn like up well 1851 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,679 Speaker 1: back in the closet for me. See you niggas, never worry. 1852 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,960 Speaker 1: You know that star since crossed over the radio and 1853 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,919 Speaker 1: it's part of the Ricky Smalley morning show in Atlanta. 1854 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,080 Speaker 1: Oh she okay, So she does that now. Co host 1855 01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:18,120 Speaker 1: of fox is syndicated entertainment show Dish Nation. She is 1856 01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,800 Speaker 1: also the executive producer of we TV's reality show Growing 1857 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 1: Up Here Popping Atlanta. I didn't know she was doing 1858 01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:27,880 Speaker 1: all this, giving a change of social landscape, being right, 1859 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,280 Speaker 1: being unproblematic, and making money. She no longer has fear 1860 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,200 Speaker 1: of sexual ademity. With threatening her career, but she did 1861 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:35,639 Speaker 1: say her respect for a beloved family member also held 1862 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,599 Speaker 1: her back from me and forthcoming. My grandmother has passed away, 1863 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 1: but she was sactified, so so so sanctified. I would 1864 01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:49,280 Speaker 1: not want anybody in the church to judge her because 1865 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 1: of what I do. You never want to hurt the 1866 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 1: people that raise you. You don't want to disappoint them. That's 1867 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,200 Speaker 1: sad that you can't come out because of that. You know, 1868 01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 1: It's definitely something we take for granted. It's straight people like, 1869 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,439 Speaker 1: I've never been like this. Donna embarrass my grandmama when 1870 01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,840 Speaker 1: she find out I have no Yeah, I'm with a 1871 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,639 Speaker 1: I'm with a woman. No, God like, I'm with a man. 1872 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:08,880 Speaker 3: What is people gonna think? 1873 01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's definitely a definitely a pressure. 1874 01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:14,080 Speaker 3: We don't get the same pressure. 1875 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:14,479 Speaker 1: You know. 1876 01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,559 Speaker 3: People just assume, you know, he giving you that penis 1877 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,879 Speaker 3: you go, okay, that's the assumption. 1878 01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,760 Speaker 1: She not going to condone it, but she loves me unconditionally, 1879 01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,679 Speaker 1: knowing that my family has said anything bad. At the grading, 1880 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,320 Speaker 1: the brad received the outpour and the support for friends, 1881 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,920 Speaker 1: family and fans. Uh. Yeah, you know that's the other 1882 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:37,120 Speaker 1: thing too, though, People these are people like everyone we're 1883 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 1: talking about as a person, whether that's celebrity or rapp 1884 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,280 Speaker 1: or whatever. So they're still unworking and dealing with all 1885 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: this shit. And there's also like a I'll talk about 1886 01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 1: this with Bosi all the time. There's a gentleness to 1887 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 1: your friends and family that it doesn't exist as much 1888 01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,639 Speaker 1: now on social media, like people treated like a foreign 1889 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,479 Speaker 1: concept that should always be about you. You you, you 1890 01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 1: fuck everybody else. But there's a gentle to like I 1891 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,400 Speaker 1: don't want to put my grandmama on blast for y'all. 1892 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:05,880 Speaker 3: Right. 1893 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,600 Speaker 1: That's a real feeling and it's complicated, and do I 1894 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,760 Speaker 1: have every right to, probably, you know, But then I 1895 01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,920 Speaker 1: gotta deal with mamma, and I gotta deal with the 1896 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,680 Speaker 1: way she feels and the way ma, you know, I 1897 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,400 Speaker 1: got to deal with all this other stuff the way 1898 01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:21,960 Speaker 1: I feel about it. So maybe I'm not in you 1899 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:25,599 Speaker 1: a place mentally where I feel like burn it all down, 1900 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,720 Speaker 1: fuck everybody, I don't care. And it's just it's just 1901 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,480 Speaker 1: more of a sad, tragic situation because it's an empathetic 1902 01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,320 Speaker 1: person clearly putting a lot of people before her own 1903 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:39,160 Speaker 1: like happiness. But I'm just glad she lived long enough 1904 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 1: to make it to a point where she can just 1905 01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,120 Speaker 1: finally be like, yeah, I'm out. 1906 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:43,559 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. Uh. 1907 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:45,920 Speaker 1: The Rapper is very much excited about attending her first 1908 01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: PROD event. If I can inspire someone to help somebody 1909 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,599 Speaker 1: to deal with that issues their sexuality, then I'm here 1910 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:52,719 Speaker 1: for it. It feels like a weight has been lifted. 1911 01:42:53,560 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, let's move. Let's see. 1912 01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,559 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long episode. All right, what do 1913 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:11,320 Speaker 1: I want to talk about? I don't think I want 1914 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 1: to talk about any ship with the Yeah, I don't 1915 01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:16,760 Speaker 1: care about this ship. Well, we'll talk about this stuff 1916 01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:25,800 Speaker 1: Sunday with Vernon and UH and UH and Glover from 1917 01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,599 Speaker 1: UH Corey, we'll talk about We'll talk about you know, 1918 01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,960 Speaker 1: the living, just our friends from living in the band 1919 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,600 Speaker 1: and living. I don't know if you guys heard it. 1920 01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, we hang out sometimes, we talk, no big deal, 1921 01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:40,880 Speaker 1: but we'll probably save some of these articles for them 1922 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:45,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Definitely want to talk to them. So you 1923 01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:49,000 Speaker 1: know what, why don't we do everybody's newest favorite segment. 1924 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,360 Speaker 1: Let's invite some people to the cookout. 1925 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:53,120 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1926 01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:55,880 Speaker 1: Okay, it's cookout time, y'all. 1927 01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:56,879 Speaker 3: Were passing our tickets. 1928 01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:02,400 Speaker 1: Let's see who's up first to go to the to 1929 01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:11,519 Speaker 1: come to the cookouts. Oh, okay, it looks like my 1930 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:16,960 Speaker 1: man Bill de Blasio, uh is coming to the cookout. Okay. 1931 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:24,800 Speaker 1: H Apparently, ten days after ten days of protests against 1932 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,560 Speaker 1: the police battality and racism, New York City Mayor Build A. 1933 01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,120 Speaker 1: Blasio announced that budget cuts will be coming to the 1934 01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,320 Speaker 1: New York Police Department with the goal of reinvesting in 1935 01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:36,800 Speaker 1: revenue back into the community. You mean hashtag defund the police. 1936 01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,000 Speaker 1: I was told Bill de Blosio was a piece of shit, 1937 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 1: unrepented racist. 1938 01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:45,599 Speaker 3: That uh, that's what they said online. 1939 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,519 Speaker 1: Never helped nobody and made things worse for black people 1940 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,760 Speaker 1: and empowered the police. And this announcement, the Blasio did 1941 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,320 Speaker 1: not immediately give a figure of how much the cut 1942 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,640 Speaker 1: will be, but but the funding was shift from the 1943 01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 1: NYPD budget and the youth and social services for communities 1944 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 1: of color. The Blaseio is also committed to finding significant 1945 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,000 Speaker 1: savings in the budget, which will have to be negotiated 1946 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,920 Speaker 1: with the city council, relies on multiple variables. In addition 1947 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,240 Speaker 1: to city's mayor committed to moving vendor enforcement out of 1948 01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,080 Speaker 1: the NYPD shifted enforcement the street vending out of the 1949 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,280 Speaker 1: NYPD's responsibility will allow officers to focus on more serious 1950 01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,040 Speaker 1: crime and will cut down on the interactions of uninformed 1951 01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:25,360 Speaker 1: uniformed officers, Fudan uniformed officers and New Yorkers for administrative 1952 01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,360 Speaker 1: infractions that particularly interactions with immigrants and communities of color. 1953 01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,919 Speaker 1: The BLASEIO will also initiate community Ambassador programs within the NYPD. 1954 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:37,320 Speaker 1: The ambassadors will represent the diversity of New Yorkers and 1955 01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 1: work with the NYPD to act as liaisons feature between 1956 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,839 Speaker 1: officers and the community they represent. The presidents of community 1957 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 1: Ambassadors will hopefully build trust between police department and the 1958 01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:51,599 Speaker 1: community they serve. He also pleasure to support the fifty 1959 01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:55,479 Speaker 1: h a reform bill which was introduced in Albany, and 1960 01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,360 Speaker 1: is looking to take away provisions included by legislators that 1961 01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,600 Speaker 1: prevent transparency and care more accountability within the department's disciplinarian 1962 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,360 Speaker 1: disciplinary system. Fifty eight in his current fan form is 1963 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,959 Speaker 1: what keeps officers of misconduct records private. Jesus. 1964 01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,439 Speaker 3: Last week they decided, so, yeah, I think that low 1965 01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,960 Speaker 3: bill passing. I'm not mistaken, so that will actually become public. 1966 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 1: Wow. He keeps going to this rate. Even June from 1967 01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,240 Speaker 1: Harlem's gonna have to forgive him out. I don't know 1968 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 1: if he can do all this shit. 1969 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:27,640 Speaker 3: He's gonna have to work hard for her forgiveness. 1970 01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:29,840 Speaker 1: He do all this shit, You're gonna see June up 1971 01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 1: in Hill carrying the Blasio signs Annasi Corporation count Night 1972 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:40,080 Speaker 1: still trip him last week. The Vlasio Announcis Corporation Council 1973 01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,960 Speaker 1: Jim Johnson and DOI Commissioner Margaret Garnett will be reviewing 1974 01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,960 Speaker 1: the protests as well as the NYPD's response to the 1975 01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 1: protest to ensure there is accountability for both officers and 1976 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,639 Speaker 1: protesters who may have acted in appropriately or they through 1977 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:57,559 Speaker 1: that protests in there, you ain't slick anyway. Since the 1978 01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:11,720 Speaker 1: floor is the bar, build a Blasio, Yeah, yim, I 1979 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:12,599 Speaker 1: beat Brooklyn. 1980 01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,639 Speaker 5: Now I'm down in the trap that go right next 1981 01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:15,240 Speaker 5: to the ne Bro. 1982 01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,920 Speaker 1: But I'll be hood fast for tru And since I 1983 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:20,879 Speaker 1: made it here, I can make it anywhere. 1984 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,160 Speaker 3: Year They love me everywhere. I used to cop it. 1985 01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,599 Speaker 1: Hall On, don't love my DV and Connor's right there 1986 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,200 Speaker 1: on Broadway for me. I guess he bringing that everything 1987 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,640 Speaker 1: bagels apparently and bring some of that pizza too. I 1988 01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:33,720 Speaker 1: ain't never had no New York pizza, okay. 1989 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:35,200 Speaker 3: No fishing New York pizza. 1990 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,599 Speaker 1: I was looking forward to that, okay too. 1991 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,400 Speaker 3: And going to Chicago. Get some dig this Chicago pizza. 1992 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,919 Speaker 1: You ain't eating a pizza with no forking on knife. 1993 01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,760 Speaker 3: Up in here. It's you. I like pizza, so I 1994 01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:45,479 Speaker 3: would have loved that. 1995 01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,120 Speaker 1: We ain't got nothing but plastic cut cutlery up in here, 1996 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 1: red solo cups. Yeah, I don't know we got If 1997 01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,240 Speaker 1: we got what you want, make sure you tuck in 1998 01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,240 Speaker 1: your tie. And we can't wait to meet your black family. Okay, 1999 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know they know how to cut a rug. Okay. 2000 01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,519 Speaker 1: I want to get your hairtips from your son with 2001 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,280 Speaker 1: the freud. Okay, yes, come over by the natural hair section. 2002 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:09,760 Speaker 3: We got the breaking section over here. 2003 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,759 Speaker 1: And a win Tour admits to her ful intolerant behavior 2004 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:16,640 Speaker 1: at Vogue and a win Tour, who has resigned as 2005 01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:19,040 Speaker 1: Vogue editing she for thirty two years, and on Thursdays, 2006 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,639 Speaker 1: she publicly acknowledged mistakes made during her career. God damn 2007 01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:25,320 Speaker 1: black people is getting these people to resign? She was 2008 01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:30,400 Speaker 1: signed because it is wow. 2009 01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,840 Speaker 3: I me and you talked about this. Right now, the 2010 01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:34,960 Speaker 3: streets is hot, Like now, it's not the time to 2011 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,160 Speaker 3: be sucking up. Now you wait a smooth six months, 2012 01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 3: you might get away from the ship right now. 2013 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:40,920 Speaker 1: Damn. 2014 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,280 Speaker 3: Really, you're looking at everything, dad, this is this is 2015 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:46,479 Speaker 3: thirty two years of your career. 2016 01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,679 Speaker 1: Like they've been mad. You ain't hire no black people 2017 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,040 Speaker 1: from for all thirty two of them years. Yes, the 2018 01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,760 Speaker 1: half man this ship down. They're like, I gotta go, 2019 01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:55,559 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. 2020 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:56,759 Speaker 3: I don't want them problems. 2021 01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,599 Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be protesting b The Vogue dame sitting out 2022 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,920 Speaker 1: a company why I memo to addressed recent events surrounding 2023 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,640 Speaker 1: racial injustice across the country and their emotional letters. She 2024 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:08,000 Speaker 1: admitted to letting hurtful, intolerant behavior go unchecked and not 2025 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,600 Speaker 1: doing enough to champion black staffers and designers. According to 2026 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:13,839 Speaker 1: page six, went tour acknowledge and show empathy for the sadness, 2027 01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,160 Speaker 1: hurting anger workers were going through. She took a moment 2028 01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,080 Speaker 1: to address black members of the Vogue team specifically and 2029 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,240 Speaker 1: conceded that the need for change was overdue. 2030 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:26,320 Speaker 3: Well, damn, and this is part of the process. I'll 2031 01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:29,479 Speaker 3: dook Saud sometimes people got to step down like and 2032 01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:32,320 Speaker 3: THATSS and shit is really tough to do because. 2033 01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,920 Speaker 1: That's a long career. I want to say this. I 2034 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,320 Speaker 1: want to say this especially to the black members of 2035 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,880 Speaker 1: our team. I can only imagine what these days have 2036 01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,759 Speaker 1: been like. But I also know that hurt and violence 2037 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,880 Speaker 1: and injustice were saying and talking about have been around 2038 01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,760 Speaker 1: for a long time. Recognizing it and doing something about 2039 01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:50,840 Speaker 1: it is overdue. I want to say plainly that I 2040 01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,240 Speaker 1: know Vogue has not found enough ways to elevate and 2041 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,439 Speaker 1: give space to the black editors, writers, photographers, designers, and 2042 01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,960 Speaker 1: other creators. We have made mistakes too, publishing images or 2043 01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,559 Speaker 1: stories that have been hurt for or intolerant. I take 2044 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,200 Speaker 1: full responsibility for those mistakes. It can't be easy to 2045 01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 1: be a black employee at Vogue, and there are too 2046 01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,360 Speaker 1: few of you. I know that it is not enough 2047 01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,479 Speaker 1: to say we will do better, but we will, and 2048 01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,800 Speaker 1: please know that our value, your voices and responses will 2049 01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,439 Speaker 1: move forward. I'm listening and would like to hear your 2050 01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:19,240 Speaker 1: feedback and your advice if you would like to share either. 2051 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:24,559 Speaker 1: The memo quickly follows. Adam Reppaport, former editor in chief 2052 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:28,160 Speaker 1: of bon appetite resignation, which happened on Monday. 2053 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:29,599 Speaker 3: Big. 2054 01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,599 Speaker 1: It's a huge many call for Rappaport to step down. 2055 01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 1: At the twenty thirteen photo service of him and Brown 2056 01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 1: Face alongside his wife, Oh no. 2057 01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:43,760 Speaker 3: They showed up and was like bone appetite. They was like, 2058 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:44,679 Speaker 3: we don't want that meal. 2059 01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:51,439 Speaker 1: Would you have any boody Swiss? Yeah, getting chugged on 2060 01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,600 Speaker 1: some of Elfha's ass water. That'll bring him around A 2061 01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,719 Speaker 1: secure off man. What you coming out and movies for? Anyways? 2062 01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,880 Speaker 3: You need another revenue stream. 2063 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:03,040 Speaker 2: For your information. Revenue stream currently generates two million dollars 2064 01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,400 Speaker 2: a year in charitable contributions for my community. I think, 2065 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:08,920 Speaker 2: And why am I in this movie? Maybe I just 2066 01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:11,599 Speaker 2: knew I had to represent because they had one good 2067 01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:12,760 Speaker 2: part of him for a black man. 2068 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:17,320 Speaker 1: They gave it to Crocodile Dune deep Pumpy breaks kid, 2069 01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,840 Speaker 1: that man's national treasure. Ah. I just wanted to throw 2070 01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,680 Speaker 1: another strength on your baby. That shit ain't funny, Hey, fellas. 2071 01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:24,840 Speaker 3: It's hard. 2072 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,599 Speaker 2: We're tired fucking what you cager from Jack? 2073 01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're dingle ate your baby. You know that's 2074 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,679 Speaker 1: the true story. The lady lost the kid. You about 2075 01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,559 Speaker 1: to cross some fucking line that relaxed. You know what, 2076 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,040 Speaker 1: fuck that, man, I'm sick of this kowala hunting nigga. 2077 01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:38,400 Speaker 3: Telling me. 2078 01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:48,800 Speaker 1: For four hundred years that word. It's kept us down. 2079 01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,320 Speaker 5: What the fuck the gold out of chime? 2080 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,720 Speaker 1: Just to get up the hill? Now you help in 2081 01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:05,120 Speaker 1: the big leagues getting out turning. That's the theme song 2082 01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,040 Speaker 1: for the Jefferson You really need help it. Just because 2083 01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 1: theme song don't make it not true. Maybe maybe he 2084 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:13,719 Speaker 1: showed up like that and we have to forgive him. 2085 01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,160 Speaker 3: One of my favorite rope. No, no, can't nobody do. 2086 01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:18,559 Speaker 3: Can't nobody that do? That's one of my favorite roles. 2087 01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean he said he did Bonne Appetite, right? Is 2088 01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:23,320 Speaker 1: that a cooking magazine? 2089 01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,599 Speaker 3: That's cooking app Yeah, I'm not being full treat. 2090 01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,760 Speaker 1: Back before the war broke out, I was associated saying 2091 01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,439 Speaker 1: in told I better, I could call up some of 2092 01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,720 Speaker 1: them green dude, some crawl fish out the patti yo. 2093 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,400 Speaker 3: I made him some crab apple for dessert. 2094 01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:46,360 Speaker 1: Now yeah, hell yeah, that's just the best real tears 2095 01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:53,160 Speaker 1: every time. Anyway. Uh. Andre Leon Tally, a former friend 2096 01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:56,640 Speaker 1: of Wintur black Man, I, was also create a criticized 2097 01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,559 Speaker 1: vague editor achieving his new memoir The Chiffon Trenches, and 2098 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,400 Speaker 1: accuse her of ind and that friendship because he became 2099 01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,120 Speaker 1: too old and too fat. He also ousted her for 2100 01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,280 Speaker 1: not thanking him for his op ed piece for The 2101 01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:11,920 Speaker 1: Washington Post, which praised herself to my twenty eighteen Beyonce cover, 2102 01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,879 Speaker 1: saying that it was culturally significant for the black community. 2103 01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,679 Speaker 1: Not one quick email from Anna Wintour tally said editors 2104 01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,680 Speaker 1: I've worked with for decades didn't understand the immense importance 2105 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,280 Speaker 1: of this occasion, simply because they are not capable of understanding. 2106 01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:28,559 Speaker 1: None of my contemporaries have seen the world through black eyes. 2107 01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:34,000 Speaker 1: To conclude, Wintor applauded the magazine's published content over the 2108 01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:38,439 Speaker 1: past few days and stated that there was much more 2109 01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:40,200 Speaker 1: to be done. I'm proud of the content we have 2110 01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,960 Speaker 1: published on our site over these past few days, but 2111 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,320 Speaker 1: I also know that there is much more work to do. 2112 01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,559 Speaker 1: Please don't hesitate to be in touch with me directly. 2113 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm arranging ways we can discuss these issues together candidly. 2114 01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,160 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, walk are your thoughts and reactions. 2115 01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:55,640 Speaker 1: As for the future of Vogue, she assures work is 2116 01:53:55,680 --> 01:54:01,519 Speaker 1: being done so yeah, and a win tour resigned and 2117 01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:06,240 Speaker 1: apologized for all that sism. So uh. 2118 01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:11,080 Speaker 3: Once upon a time there was a little black girl 2119 01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:18,120 Speaker 3: in the Brewster projects of Detroit, Michigan. At fifteen. She 2120 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:22,080 Speaker 3: was fighted by an every fashion fair talent scout, and 2121 01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:23,880 Speaker 3: her modeling career took off. 2122 01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:40,440 Speaker 1: You better, all world, Come on in, Anna, stretch yourself 2123 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:41,320 Speaker 1: down the runway. 2124 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,600 Speaker 3: Okay, we're confusing out of old people. Why the lights 2125 01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:45,200 Speaker 3: go down? 2126 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:45,440 Speaker 1: Why? 2127 01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:45,560 Speaker 4: What? 2128 01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:48,280 Speaker 1: Where is conas? Come from? Was a little twirl and 2129 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm coming in here looking like Urella Deville's where right, 2130 01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:51,600 Speaker 1: come from? 2131 01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:52,480 Speaker 3: Calm down, grandma. 2132 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay, you go ahead and stretch all the way over 2133 01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:56,520 Speaker 1: to the drinks. 2134 01:54:56,640 --> 01:55:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, he I mean kill kill toe, kill toe. 2135 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead and sashe real quick for us. Yes, world, 2136 01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:10,720 Speaker 1: Now have a seating over here and judge the rest 2137 01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:14,880 Speaker 1: of us are clothing. Yes, yeah, she's so. She's coming 2138 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:19,000 Speaker 1: to cookout because it's the barreman on all right, let's 2139 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:25,440 Speaker 1: see who else is coming to the cookout? Oh man. 2140 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:32,360 Speaker 1: The Navy is planning to ban all public the Navy. 2141 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,800 Speaker 1: The US Navy. The United States Navy's planning to ban 2142 01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:41,520 Speaker 1: all public displays of the Confederate flag. Let's go. Yep, 2143 01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:44,960 Speaker 1: they are working on her order to band the display 2144 01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 1: of the Confederate flag less than a week after the 2145 01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,800 Speaker 1: Marine Corps issued a directive. 2146 01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:48,840 Speaker 4: To do so. 2147 01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:55,400 Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, who saw that coming? Mm hmm. Okay, 2148 01:55:55,640 --> 01:56:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like mm hmmm. I mean, but 2149 01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:02,960 Speaker 1: you know what, whenever. 2150 01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,000 Speaker 3: You come right when it's time, That's how I feel. 2151 01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,200 Speaker 1: It's been too late for a long time, and it 2152 01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,880 Speaker 1: would have been too late tomorrow as well, so might 2153 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:14,840 Speaker 1: as well do it today. So we appreciate the Navy 2154 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,920 Speaker 1: around here, okay for doing the right thing. Finally, welcome 2155 01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:27,960 Speaker 1: to the cookout. 2156 01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:35,240 Speaker 3: No clouch in my stone. 2157 01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is Rihanna's crew, the Navy, So I 2158 01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:40,880 Speaker 1: guess they'll be coming through repping our girl. 2159 01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,400 Speaker 3: That's how I thought you talking about at first. That's 2160 01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:42,720 Speaker 3: all I was like. 2161 01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:47,680 Speaker 1: No, I mean just the the US Navy, not the 2162 01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,560 Speaker 1: Rihanna Navy. But I guess they're gonna come in their 2163 01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,640 Speaker 1: white uniforms and and sachet for us and do a 2164 01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,320 Speaker 1: little bit of the swab in the deck. 2165 01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,080 Speaker 3: You know. Jeff Bezos got it, So I all the 2166 01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:00,000 Speaker 3: military can show up. 2167 01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna probably have this on some of your votes. Okay, 2168 01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 1: because we're gonna be able to afford it with Jeff 2169 01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:09,280 Speaker 1: Bezos money. Come on, so the Navy will be ad 2170 01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:14,160 Speaker 1: to cook out for check notes taking down the Confederate 2171 01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:18,760 Speaker 1: flag in twenty twenty. All right, yep, that's cookout worry worthy. 2172 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:24,280 Speaker 3: Now that is the bars. So friends of to get 2173 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:25,040 Speaker 3: out the. 2174 01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 1: Straining it up, sending the umbrella. 2175 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:40,880 Speaker 3: You can bending under my umbrella. Hello, Hello, under my 2176 01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:42,800 Speaker 3: umbre Hello. 2177 01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:49,320 Speaker 1: He uh, let's see who else is getting in. 2178 01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,560 Speaker 3: Roger gooddewn Okay, what was that? 2179 01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,400 Speaker 1: What do he had missed? The NFL bungled the kneeling 2180 01:57:57,440 --> 01:57:59,680 Speaker 1: products protests and said we were wrong. 2181 01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,720 Speaker 5: Yes he did, mm hmm. 2182 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:04,920 Speaker 1: He said we were wrong. 2183 01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 3: In the sporting world lost his mind. 2184 01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:10,560 Speaker 1: Yep, it's start a russ. 2185 01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2186 01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. He finally came out and admitted, Now, a lot 2187 01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,840 Speaker 1: of people don't know how the NFL works, so they 2188 01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,600 Speaker 1: wanted him to say Kaepernick's name in it, which I'm 2189 01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:25,760 Speaker 1: assuming they probably can't because of the the legal bindings 2190 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,520 Speaker 1: of the deal that they signed with him, so they 2191 01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,800 Speaker 1: probably can't. The other thing they said was then hired 2192 01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:33,200 Speaker 1: Kaepernick and that no offense to my blacks. I know 2193 01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:36,320 Speaker 1: y'all just casually follow sports, and I'm probably a little 2194 01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:39,240 Speaker 1: bit of a sports nerd, but that's not how any 2195 01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:43,920 Speaker 1: of this works. So he can't personally get Kaepernick hired. 2196 01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:47,280 Speaker 1: He tried that already. He clearly has been trying it 2197 01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:50,840 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Him and Jay Z have incentivized teams 2198 01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:54,520 Speaker 1: to do it. They these racist ass owners don't want 2199 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:59,000 Speaker 1: to do it. Roger Goodell himself is probably not a 2200 01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 1: racist in the way you think of racism, and you know, 2201 01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:06,520 Speaker 1: he's like, he personally would love to not have this 2202 01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:10,600 Speaker 1: on his resume, the entire thing. But his job is 2203 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,640 Speaker 1: to carry water for the owners, and he came in 2204 01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,520 Speaker 1: on some law and punishment shit, So to me, this 2205 01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:19,280 Speaker 1: is him reaping the benefits of that. And so now 2206 01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,480 Speaker 1: he has to deal with the consequences of looking like 2207 01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:24,200 Speaker 1: the principal. Right, everyone looks at the principal and go 2208 01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:26,360 Speaker 1: let him back into school, and it's like, I didn't 2209 01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:27,920 Speaker 1: kick him out, and I can't let him back in. 2210 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,960 Speaker 1: But you tried to make yourself look all powerful ten 2211 01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:32,880 Speaker 1: twelve years ago when you got the job and was 2212 01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:38,640 Speaker 1: punishing people for getting DUIs and shit. Anyway, some players 2213 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,760 Speaker 1: put out a video basically saying we want the league 2214 01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:45,120 Speaker 1: to say black lives matter. And it was all because 2215 01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:48,280 Speaker 1: of a rogue employee that basically coordinated all this shit 2216 01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:52,160 Speaker 1: through the players and stuff and probably expected to be 2217 01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:55,080 Speaker 1: fired off of this. But then Goodell was with it, 2218 01:59:55,160 --> 02:00:00,640 Speaker 1: because Goodell probably is with it, but the owners are not. 2219 02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, these old rich white men are not with 2220 02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:06,080 Speaker 1: any of this black lives matter ship. And so uh, 2221 02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,040 Speaker 1: he gave a statement and from his basement, looking like 2222 02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:12,640 Speaker 1: a hostage, we the National Football League admant we were 2223 02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,200 Speaker 1: wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encouraged 2224 02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:23,400 Speaker 1: all to speak out and peacefully protests. So yeah, he, Uh, 2225 02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I guess he's coming to the cookout. God, I gotta 2226 02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:35,840 Speaker 1: find some some I don't even know if I know 2227 02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:43,640 Speaker 1: any uh sports uh songs for the NFL anyway? Oh, 2228 02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:47,160 Speaker 1: you know what? This one is kind of everybody? Uh, 2229 02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:51,600 Speaker 1: this is kind of everybody's a sports song. If I 2230 02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:56,520 Speaker 1: can find the right Why why is this not on here? 2231 02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Hold on a second? Uh? Oh, go to different brows, 2232 02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:14,960 Speaker 1: a different one. Nah, oh, give me one second, you could. 2233 02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah he didne came a long way like like cigarettes. 2234 02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just one of those things where I 2235 02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:32,320 Speaker 1: think he got forced into having to to have their 2236 02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:37,320 Speaker 1: back and there was really nothing he could do about it. 2237 02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,320 Speaker 1: You know, because the players now are exercising their power 2238 02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:42,760 Speaker 1: in the way that they never have before in the NFL. 2239 02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:47,000 Speaker 3: This is big, right, They've been about that shield and 2240 02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:48,120 Speaker 3: nobody speak up. 2241 02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2242 02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:52,280 Speaker 3: So the NBA player has been out here hot Mitt 2243 02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:57,000 Speaker 3: it going fuck down Trump right, they have like they 2244 02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:58,960 Speaker 3: be like the fun you gonna do. I'm gonna go 2245 02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:00,640 Speaker 3: play basketball, the bars to be rich. 2246 02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, NBA player has been saying something anyway, this is 2247 02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:19,200 Speaker 1: the song. You're gonna come in and running for the 2248 02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:22,839 Speaker 1: yard dash with us. It's gonna be all time quarterback. 2249 02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Come on over here, Roger. 2250 02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:27,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna have them big blowouts with the hole in 2251 02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,240 Speaker 3: the middle. They're gonna be throwing the ball. 2252 02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:32,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna gonna supply all the football shit, right, come 2253 02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:32,720 Speaker 1: on in. 2254 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,720 Speaker 3: Be like, okay, we thank you for being here. Sign 2255 02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:38,839 Speaker 3: up here for the Flag Football Team, the Attack of Football. 2256 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:42,000 Speaker 3: We got five and none to over there. Bring out 2257 02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:43,320 Speaker 3: the teenagers over here. 2258 02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Bring Tom Brady with you, yes, and all the gatorade. 2259 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,920 Speaker 1: You know you bring all the gatorade. 2260 02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:51,160 Speaker 3: Okay, the field goal you wanna do the field goal 2261 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,520 Speaker 3: kicking you over there? 2262 02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, let's see who else is coming in. 2263 02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:05,840 Speaker 1: We'll do one more white cops and civilians wash black protesters, 2264 02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:09,440 Speaker 1: faith leaders feet and ask for forgiveness. Oh. 2265 02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:10,960 Speaker 3: We just talked about the story. 2266 02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Did we did we? Oh we did this one already. Okay, yeah, yeah, 2267 02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,680 Speaker 1: you know what we did do this one? Yeah, that 2268 02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:19,440 Speaker 1: was a weird one. Uh, but you know what, I 2269 02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:23,440 Speaker 1: don't understand that's some religious ship. So I let the 2270 02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Christians fight about that, like what, I listened to tea 2271 02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,600 Speaker 1: with Queen and Jay and they both seem to hate it. 2272 02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,400 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm assuming there's a lot of black 2273 02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:40,200 Speaker 1: people that did not fuck with that. So I don't 2274 02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:42,440 Speaker 1: know if it worked the way they thought it would work. 2275 02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:45,600 Speaker 1: But the blacks were it seemed like a lot of 2276 02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:47,080 Speaker 1: the blacks were no feeling. 2277 02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:49,600 Speaker 3: We were sending that we needed nomin to come in. 2278 02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Panthers our home team, our favorite NFL team is the 2279 02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Pathers in relationship with CPI security at the 2280 02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:04,240 Speaker 1: see George Floyd protest re marks. Do we do this one? 2281 02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:06,200 Speaker 3: We talked about it, but I don't think we've gotten 2282 02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:07,800 Speaker 3: to the cookout. I'm talking about this. 2283 02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers ended their relationship with CPI Security on Saturday evening. 2284 02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:17,280 Speaker 1: The announcement comes after release of an email containing what 2285 02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:21,280 Speaker 1: the leader of local community group called racist comments. The 2286 02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:23,920 Speaker 1: Panthers issued the state in state and last Saturday we 2287 02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,680 Speaker 1: said we are committed to doing our part and we 2288 02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:30,440 Speaker 1: mean it. CPI has been a long term part in it. 2289 02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:33,760 Speaker 1: And listen, you guys don't live here, but CPI and 2290 02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:35,240 Speaker 1: the Panthers hand in hand. 2291 02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:39,120 Speaker 3: Yes, they got like a doll and yes, CPS security 2292 02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:40,960 Speaker 3: like a dog house or something where they do like 2293 02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,360 Speaker 3: the pregames for like the AM station over here. 2294 02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:46,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't remember if they do that, 2295 02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:50,880 Speaker 1: but I know Luke Keachley was a CPI person. They 2296 02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:55,560 Speaker 1: do all these commercials and the local they do commercials. 2297 02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:58,560 Speaker 1: It's a big fucking deal. If you watch the Panthers game, 2298 02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:01,560 Speaker 1: these commercials come on like every a commercial work. So 2299 02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,880 Speaker 1: CPR Security gots to be giving them all the money. Yeah. 2300 02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:05,000 Speaker 2: Not. 2301 02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:08,280 Speaker 3: Not only they did it, the Hornets followed behind them. 2302 02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:12,800 Speaker 1: Well the waiter, I'm sorry, it's okay. And the Hornets 2303 02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:16,000 Speaker 1: did it to y'all. So the Hornets the Hornets. 2304 02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:18,720 Speaker 3: Uh, I ruined the punchline. 2305 02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:24,000 Speaker 1: It's okay, Uh anyway, I guess I. 2306 02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:25,080 Speaker 3: Was like everybody went along. 2307 02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:27,040 Speaker 1: We can just skip to the to the song. 2308 02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:29,920 Speaker 4: And today. 2309 02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Jock question, come on in here, David Temper and Michael 2310 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Jordan's okay, Michael's already coming to the cookout. Okay, he 2311 02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:54,600 Speaker 1: being about this life. But David Temple, come on through player. 2312 02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:56,880 Speaker 3: Withing like a hand of company. 2313 02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:01,120 Speaker 1: For you who. 2314 02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:13,440 Speaker 5: Come up for you who. 2315 02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:17,840 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man might go to a game now shout 2316 02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:19,840 Speaker 1: out to shout out to the Panthers. 2317 02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:23,000 Speaker 3: And that's big time because you don't like outside they did. 2318 02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:26,880 Speaker 1: They did that went to like I'm saying, dude said 2319 02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:31,200 Speaker 1: that ship on like Saturday night and Saturday a little 2320 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:33,040 Speaker 1: bit later at the night. The Panthers that put out 2321 02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:35,400 Speaker 1: a statement and I woke up the next morning, and 2322 02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:36,360 Speaker 1: the Hornets that put out. 2323 02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:38,400 Speaker 3: A statement, and y'all know what I'm not trying, y'all, 2324 02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:42,040 Speaker 3: this is like probably millions of dollars they instantly lost 2325 02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:46,640 Speaker 3: because both of these like they literally probably did they 2326 02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:50,400 Speaker 3: like arenas, but they probably for the Arenas, you know, 2327 02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,800 Speaker 3: they probably did a bunch of other you know, ship 2328 02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:57,800 Speaker 3: and for them to end that I know other people's 2329 02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:01,880 Speaker 3: probably rubbing and doing the dumbman hand rub going. Come 2330 02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:03,520 Speaker 3: on all, we want some of that money over here. 2331 02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:06,840 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. All right, that's how I said that that 2332 02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:10,640 Speaker 1: would be the last one. No, no, I thought I said, okay, last, 2333 02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:12,320 Speaker 1: so I just I'll just leave it at that one. 2334 02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:19,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into you know what, not fuck that. 2335 02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Let's do one more. We do one more, y'all. Okay uh. 2336 02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:28,080 Speaker 1: After speaking out about George Floyd's death, Property Brother Jonathan 2337 02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Scott gives the four nonprofits. 2338 02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,800 Speaker 3: Come on, Property Brothers Death my one of my favorite 2339 02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:38,520 Speaker 3: shows and my didical brothers. 2340 02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm yeah he uh. 2341 02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:44,200 Speaker 3: He come on through Property Brothers. 2342 02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:52,160 Speaker 1: They did it. They I mean, what can you say? They? 2343 02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he uh. He's committing to users platform, 2344 02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:59,400 Speaker 1: his voice for affecting last and change. I'm committed to listening. 2345 02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm committed to I should use my voice, my platform, 2346 02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:03,840 Speaker 1: my vote to effect last and change. This is not 2347 02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:06,320 Speaker 1: an overnight fix. Well, I believe good shall prevail and 2348 02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:09,080 Speaker 1: we all are responsible to speak up about the injustices 2349 02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:14,680 Speaker 1: around us. Silence saves nothing, man, this while bidy' gonna win, y'all. 2350 02:08:14,720 --> 02:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all it's not gonna be us. These whites, 2351 02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:23,440 Speaker 1: they are acting different. Come on, we can just keep 2352 02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:27,920 Speaker 1: them till November, acting this way till November, and they'll 2353 02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:30,320 Speaker 1: wake up and be like, Wow, I in one because 2354 02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:33,640 Speaker 1: they they weren't saying shit in twenty sixteen. Not a 2355 02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:37,480 Speaker 1: fucking thing to Trump was racist ship in twenty sixteen. Man, 2356 02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:39,760 Speaker 1: they wasn't talking. I'm gonna use my voice. I'm gonna 2357 02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:41,280 Speaker 1: donate the black lives time. They didn't give a fuck 2358 02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:44,160 Speaker 1: niggas downing in the streets anyway. It's not about that. 2359 02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:46,480 Speaker 1: That's holding old things against them. We're not doing there. 2360 02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:50,320 Speaker 1: We had to be inviting people into the cookout. That's 2361 02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:56,480 Speaker 1: what's important. And I almost forgot. Okay, well we're back. Okay, 2362 02:08:56,560 --> 02:09:01,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, I guess we gotta invite him into the cookout. 2363 02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:03,920 Speaker 1: He'll be building some shelters. 2364 02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:16,120 Speaker 5: Okay, come on, I'm over to go there and check 2365 02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:16,520 Speaker 5: him out. 2366 02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:20,480 Speaker 1: I knew you was a property brother, but I didn't 2367 02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:24,720 Speaker 1: know you was down with the property brothers. Okay, we 2368 02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:26,960 Speaker 1: appreciate you over there, pimp. 2369 02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:31,640 Speaker 3: We know some of y'all been looking for some homes. 2370 02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, come over here, help us build this cook ouur shelter. Okay, 2371 02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:39,000 Speaker 1: we want to indoor pool in an outdoor pool. Shout 2372 02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:42,200 Speaker 1: out the ray. Okay, we appreciate you. 2373 02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:42,320 Speaker 3: Bro. 2374 02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Can we get some air conditioning up here? All right? 2375 02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:48,040 Speaker 3: We need to indoor pooling the outdoor pool. 2376 02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:52,320 Speaker 1: We got an indoor basketball court and an outdoor basketball court. 2377 02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Fucking with with Jonathan over here, come on, coming on 2378 02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:59,760 Speaker 1: in here, hooking up the nonprofits and helping us get 2379 02:09:59,800 --> 02:10:02,680 Speaker 1: the rode out. Okay, can you build us a little 2380 02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:05,960 Speaker 1: booth for registration for voting. Okay, we're gonna need that. Yeah, 2381 02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:08,919 Speaker 1: that cash. We appreciate you, Jonathan. 2382 02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:11,080 Speaker 3: Okay, somebody said, oh I need a open concept. 2383 02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:14,680 Speaker 1: I want to well, you know, you know they say 2384 02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:17,160 Speaker 1: you like a house with good bones. Well, do you 2385 02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:20,480 Speaker 1: like a big bone woman? Because I have several aunts here. 2386 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:22,879 Speaker 3: Jonathan in the kitchens. 2387 02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:25,880 Speaker 1: Okay, do you like red bones? I wanted do you 2388 02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:29,760 Speaker 1: know that? Do you like neck bones? Okay, because we 2389 02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:31,880 Speaker 1: got all kinds of bones up in the cass. 2390 02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:33,760 Speaker 3: I know you like them greens, but you like them 2391 02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:34,760 Speaker 3: kind of greens. 2392 02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Okay, we're trying to get the hook up. All right, 2393 02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, appreciate Jonathan. 2394 02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:41,040 Speaker 3: Appreciate you. 2395 02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:46,680 Speaker 1: The cookout. Ain't that some shit? All right, let's get 2396 02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:50,120 Speaker 1: the wrapping this up. What should we wrap it up with? 2397 02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:56,840 Speaker 1: I guess we could dude, guess the race. Yeah, let's 2398 02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,720 Speaker 1: do guest the race. Let's the guest, right, so get 2399 02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:04,080 Speaker 1: my guest rays music out. 2400 02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:08,680 Speaker 3: Now that it is time for some guests the race. 2401 02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:10,919 Speaker 1: That's right, this guests. 2402 02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:12,640 Speaker 3: The race time. 2403 02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:17,760 Speaker 1: Now that it is time for some guests the race last, right, 2404 02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:22,600 Speaker 1: this guess the race time. That's right, It's time for 2405 02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,720 Speaker 1: guests the race. The number one game shall go across 2406 02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:27,520 Speaker 1: all the podcasts. Man, we read the play news arts 2407 02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:29,360 Speaker 1: from all over the globe, and we asked our contestants 2408 02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:33,200 Speaker 1: today Karen and the chat room to guess the race. 2409 02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:36,440 Speaker 1: And of course everyone playing is racist. All right, let's 2410 02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:39,760 Speaker 1: get the guests. Number one, a woman is facing the 2411 02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:41,840 Speaker 1: possible jealous and it's at the lashing out of her 2412 02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:47,560 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend when she tried to rekindle their relationship. Decca Ahmed, 2413 02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:52,880 Speaker 1: forty one, turned up at the home of Sylvester's Ruless 2414 02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:57,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight. She's forty one, he's twenty eight, okay, during 2415 02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:01,520 Speaker 1: the lockdown on April fifteenth, and she message him saying surprise, 2416 02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm downstairs and I've got a bottle of wine. However, 2417 02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:10,360 Speaker 1: when he poured it into tumblers rather than wine glasses, 2418 02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:13,320 Speaker 1: she flew into a rage and threw it at him. 2419 02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:15,160 Speaker 3: What is a tumbler? 2420 02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:19,040 Speaker 1: A tumblr is like a liquor, like what you drink 2421 02:12:19,080 --> 02:12:22,440 Speaker 1: brown liquor in, like a small glass like it doesn't 2422 02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:27,960 Speaker 1: have a stem like a wine glass. She threw. She 2423 02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:30,120 Speaker 1: threw it, He dodged out the way and smashed it 2424 02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:33,160 Speaker 1: to a cabinet. Amadin slapped him around the face ten 2425 02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:36,560 Speaker 1: times and hit his roommate, Raves Melders, with a belt 2426 02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:39,160 Speaker 1: before they were able to bundle her out of the house. 2427 02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:41,920 Speaker 1: That the room man got to do with it, probably 2428 02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:44,280 Speaker 1: trying not to be a trying to help, trying to 2429 02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:46,600 Speaker 1: save somebody in life. That was when she dropped her 2430 02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:49,840 Speaker 1: nickers and defecated on the doorstep of his home in 2431 02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:50,800 Speaker 1: South Kensington. 2432 02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:53,400 Speaker 3: This is not from the United States. 2433 02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:57,040 Speaker 1: No. The couple had been in a relationship since twenty eighteen, 2434 02:12:57,520 --> 02:12:59,680 Speaker 1: but as a result of the previous trouble, mister rule 2435 02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Is was banned from seeing a mad He appeared in 2436 02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:06,160 Speaker 1: court via video link. As he is currently a custody 2437 02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:09,920 Speaker 1: on various charges including still in the doorbell stoorbell from 2438 02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:13,640 Speaker 1: a Mad's home. A Mas said that was on the day. 2439 02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:16,320 Speaker 3: She attacked she took the ring off the door. 2440 02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:19,200 Speaker 1: I guess so this is weird though, because he's the 2441 02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:20,080 Speaker 1: one in jail. 2442 02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:22,560 Speaker 5: Hit jail. 2443 02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:24,800 Speaker 1: She hit him. But he's in jail, Acurd and he 2444 02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:28,800 Speaker 1: appeared in court as is he Yeah, he is currently 2445 02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:31,400 Speaker 1: a custody on various charges, including stealing the doorbell from 2446 02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:33,440 Speaker 1: a mads home. A Mad said that on the day 2447 02:13:33,480 --> 02:13:35,360 Speaker 1: she attacked him with the tumblers, she was at his 2448 02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,920 Speaker 1: house to retrieve the doorbell, and that he had invited 2449 02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:41,520 Speaker 1: her in for wine. However, District Judge Alex Jacobs at 2450 02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Westminster Court rejected her version of events and convicted her 2451 02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:47,440 Speaker 1: of criminal damage and two counts of assault by beating. 2452 02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:49,840 Speaker 1: So why the hell did he ever go to jail? 2453 02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand for stealing the doorbell some other unrelatedship Anyway, 2454 02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:58,440 Speaker 1: the defendive became upset by the complaint drinking wine complaint 2455 02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:00,840 Speaker 1: drinking wine from a water glass rather than the wine glass. 2456 02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Her previous convictions make it a parent that when she 2457 02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:07,640 Speaker 1: is in drink she resourced to violence in including using 2458 02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:10,960 Speaker 1: glasses and throwing them towards the complaining Mister Rulis says 2459 02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:13,000 Speaker 1: she was drinking too much, and when she drinks too much, 2460 02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:14,960 Speaker 1: she is very aggressive and angry of her little things. 2461 02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:17,160 Speaker 1: She texted me saying, surprise them downstairs. I got a 2462 02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:19,520 Speaker 1: bottle wine. She had six or seven glasses of whiskey 2463 02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:21,720 Speaker 1: and I had two or three. She slapped me eight 2464 02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:23,280 Speaker 1: to ten times in the face. She said I could 2465 02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:26,000 Speaker 1: do anything anytime because I'm the woman and there won't 2466 02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:28,400 Speaker 1: be any bruises on your face. She wanted to have 2467 02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:31,200 Speaker 1: physical contact together. My flatmate gets home. She doesn't like 2468 02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:33,040 Speaker 1: my flatmates, so I asked her nicely to go to 2469 02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:35,520 Speaker 1: my bedroom and talk for a little while with her. 2470 02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:37,920 Speaker 1: When I then I went back to the top with 2471 02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:41,880 Speaker 1: my flatmate. Let me tell you something. This forty one 2472 02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:45,520 Speaker 1: year old woman must be putting that bang on this dude. 2473 02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because nobody going. 2474 02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:50,320 Speaker 1: She should have never got in the house. He was 2475 02:14:50,360 --> 02:14:52,080 Speaker 1: in there, like, well, maybe we could talk in the bedroom. 2476 02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:54,040 Speaker 1: She must have been putting it dizzwned. 2477 02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:56,480 Speaker 3: Okay you downstairs now what right? 2478 02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Well my roommates here, I mean we can move to 2479 02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:02,680 Speaker 1: something more private. She was aggressive, rude, disrespectful, I went 2480 02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:04,920 Speaker 1: back to the bedroom. I realized she was using my phone. 2481 02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:07,400 Speaker 1: I saw Facebook was over the Instagram and she added 2482 02:15:07,480 --> 02:15:10,160 Speaker 1: nasty text to my Facebook, which I deleted straight away. 2483 02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:12,960 Speaker 1: She got super aggressive and started fighting my flatmate, trying 2484 02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:14,520 Speaker 1: to kick him. And then I realized this is out 2485 02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:17,360 Speaker 1: of control. Oh then and we had to call the police. 2486 02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:20,839 Speaker 1: Somehow he managed, He managed for her to be outside 2487 02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:24,280 Speaker 1: the door when she started being really loud outside the door. Afterwards, 2488 02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:26,800 Speaker 1: she was outside banging the door. Suddenly it was silence 2489 02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:29,600 Speaker 1: and he was standing outside inside looking at what was 2490 02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:32,839 Speaker 1: going on outside. He said, she was urinating and shitting 2491 02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:36,480 Speaker 1: outside my main front door. I saw from the third 2492 02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:38,920 Speaker 1: floor window that she was slapping him with a belt. 2493 02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:41,040 Speaker 1: She was trying to take his bicycle out and he 2494 02:15:41,120 --> 02:15:43,680 Speaker 1: was trying to take it indoor. Six police officers arrived 2495 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:46,160 Speaker 1: and tried to pin her down. She would be sentenced 2496 02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:48,920 Speaker 1: in crowd court at a later date. Guess the race 2497 02:15:49,320 --> 02:16:09,080 Speaker 1: of what was her first name? Decca Ahmed, Decca Imed Hmmm, Indian. 2498 02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:13,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's take the chat room. Blaming her actions 2499 02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:17,760 Speaker 1: on Megan markle Boo boo brown black of Middle Eastern 2500 02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Karen Uh wanted to speak to his manager about these 2501 02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:26,839 Speaker 1: tumblers white. She wanted Bollywood. He gave her the hood Indian. 2502 02:16:27,320 --> 02:16:32,400 Speaker 1: She is Middle Eastern black, block block Rooy's matta. Uh, 2503 02:16:33,640 --> 02:16:38,119 Speaker 1: I think it's block Lloyd's matta. I don't think uh. 2504 02:16:38,320 --> 02:16:43,480 Speaker 1: Middle Eastern white, pass and Asian, Southeast and Asian Mills 2505 02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:48,200 Speaker 1: trying to chase Youngin's Middle Eastern, Middle Eastern, Pakistani brown 2506 02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:52,240 Speaker 1: Ish saspager. Well, the correct answer is, Karen, would you 2507 02:16:52,240 --> 02:16:53,720 Speaker 1: say Indian, Yeah. 2508 02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:55,680 Speaker 3: Something like like India in that. 2509 02:16:56,080 --> 02:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Well, you got it wrong. She's black with your name, 2510 02:17:07,879 --> 02:17:18,200 Speaker 1: and some of you got it right. I know a 2511 02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:21,080 Speaker 1: black one. I see one and that's a black Okay. 2512 02:17:21,160 --> 02:17:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's just happened to have a name just like 2513 02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:24,680 Speaker 3: a kind. 2514 02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:28,600 Speaker 1: And it don't crack. That's forty one right there looking 2515 02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:32,080 Speaker 1: you in the face. Okay, it's crazy but beautiful. M 2516 02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, sometimes you gotta let some money ship 2517 02:17:37,520 --> 02:17:39,600 Speaker 1: on your steps. Okay, who knows the other ship? She 2518 02:17:39,720 --> 02:17:43,119 Speaker 1: was into a woman kicked pregnant woman in the stomach 2519 02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:49,039 Speaker 1: because unborn child was a demon baby. What I know, Karen, 2520 02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:52,039 Speaker 1: if I had a dime, you know, we've all been there. 2521 02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:55,000 Speaker 3: Who told you to do it? 2522 02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:00,800 Speaker 1: A lych for Field Park woman is facing charges at 2523 02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:03,000 Speaker 1: the allegedly kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach, telling 2524 02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:08,080 Speaker 1: her that her unborn child was a demon baby. Police 2525 02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:11,200 Speaker 1: say Diamond Martinez also punched the pregnant woman's twelve year 2526 02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:12,119 Speaker 1: old sister in the face. 2527 02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:14,800 Speaker 3: Jesus, oh, everybody was getting them hands and feet. 2528 02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:17,400 Speaker 1: Apparently this is like how Future reacts you tell them 2529 02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:20,959 Speaker 1: that you're pregnant with his baby. It happened early Sunday 2530 02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:25,240 Speaker 1: morning during near Okay, even Future's not that bad. I 2531 02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:27,440 Speaker 1: take it back. I'm sorry. He just threatens to kill you. 2532 02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:31,959 Speaker 1: Early Sunday morning there downtown Phoenix hotel. According to the 2533 02:18:31,959 --> 02:18:35,800 Speaker 1: public court documents, the arresting officer Martinez twenty seven, standing 2534 02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:38,040 Speaker 1: over and holding the victim by a hair. Police said 2535 02:18:38,040 --> 02:18:41,480 Speaker 1: the victim told Martinez told that Martinez gotten the pregnant 2536 02:18:41,480 --> 02:18:43,520 Speaker 1: woman's face had pushed her. The twelve year old then 2537 02:18:43,560 --> 02:18:45,920 Speaker 1: stepped in front of her older sister and told Martinez 2538 02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:48,200 Speaker 1: to stop and that her sister was pregnant, and that's 2539 02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:51,520 Speaker 1: when Martina has allegedly punched the girl. The probable cause 2540 02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:54,600 Speaker 1: for arrest statement says Martinez grabbed the other woman by 2541 02:18:54,640 --> 02:18:57,080 Speaker 1: the hair and scratched her face. The two then went 2542 02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:59,199 Speaker 1: to the ground, and during that Diamond kicked the victim 2543 02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:01,840 Speaker 1: in the stomach. The victim told police she is seven 2544 02:19:01,879 --> 02:19:04,960 Speaker 1: months pregnant. Oh my god. Police took Martinez in the 2545 02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:08,160 Speaker 1: custody without further incident, but she told them that she 2546 02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:11,200 Speaker 1: did not understand her Miranda rights when they read them 2547 02:19:11,240 --> 02:19:13,720 Speaker 1: to her. She also refused to give a legally required 2548 02:19:13,760 --> 02:19:19,520 Speaker 1: DNA sample. Of course, while court documents that indicate Martinez 2549 02:19:19,600 --> 02:19:22,080 Speaker 1: might be mentally disturbed, her mental health history is not known, 2550 02:19:22,400 --> 02:19:24,960 Speaker 1: so I also not clear Martinez in the victim acquainted or 2551 02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:29,080 Speaker 1: what happened before Martinez infront of the victims. Judge said 2552 02:19:29,080 --> 02:19:31,600 Speaker 1: the secure the parents bond of thirty five hundred dollars. 2553 02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:34,680 Speaker 1: She is facing two failing charges of aggravator assault. Karen 2554 02:19:34,720 --> 02:19:41,920 Speaker 1: guessed the race of what's her first name, Diamond Martinez? 2555 02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:49,199 Speaker 3: Black, all right, Martinez, That's what I said. Latinix. 2556 02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so not black, all right? Check the chat room, Rosemary, 2557 02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:58,199 Speaker 1: baby daddy, new girlfriend, Latinix. She probably got a knife 2558 02:19:58,240 --> 02:20:03,600 Speaker 1: to stab people. Latino Latina wash his feet white passing 2559 02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:08,800 Speaker 1: LATINX her she likes those candles from the bodega players 2560 02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:12,720 Speaker 1: club black? What in the rosemade baby going on? Latino Latina? 2561 02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:15,480 Speaker 1: Forgive me, father, I'm about to whip this bitch ass 2562 02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:19,800 Speaker 1: black Latina Dimondo silk black black. The correct answer is, 2563 02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:24,280 Speaker 1: and Karen, you said LATINX. You got it wrong. She's black, 2564 02:20:37,480 --> 02:20:39,720 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put her picture on screen. But I 2565 02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:42,560 Speaker 1: think I have to reload, y all. The option to 2566 02:20:42,560 --> 02:20:44,720 Speaker 1: share my screen is no longer on my screen. I 2567 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:47,280 Speaker 1: have to refresh. Give me one second, everyone, okay, do that, 2568 02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:51,320 Speaker 1: all right, I'll be right back loads everything. Let me 2569 02:20:51,360 --> 02:20:54,959 Speaker 1: pause this, all right? So I think I don't know 2570 02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:57,400 Speaker 1: if I played that plause. So some people did say black? 2571 02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:10,720 Speaker 1: Uh did you even look at the screen to see 2572 02:21:11,879 --> 02:21:14,120 Speaker 1: she looked black to me? What you think? Mm hmm, 2573 02:21:14,360 --> 02:21:16,520 Speaker 1: all right, just checking? Uh? 2574 02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:18,199 Speaker 3: I thought it was coming at my bag. 2575 02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:22,760 Speaker 1: It's okay, so yeah, let's go to the bonus round. Guys. 2576 02:21:22,879 --> 02:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Karen's clearly out of it, all right. She don't care 2577 02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:26,320 Speaker 1: no more. She's owing too. 2578 02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:28,560 Speaker 4: I know. I'm terrible. 2579 02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:41,760 Speaker 1: And the race double the p and the race, that's right, 2580 02:21:41,800 --> 02:21:43,720 Speaker 1: double the points, double the race, and the bonus round 2581 02:21:43,720 --> 02:21:46,680 Speaker 1: against the race. So far, Karen is over too. 2582 02:21:46,920 --> 02:21:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm doing terrible today y'all. 2583 02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:52,680 Speaker 1: Can she get at least one guys, let's see in 2584 02:21:52,760 --> 02:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the bonus round. 2585 02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:55,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I get this, at least I'll be back 2586 02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:56,040 Speaker 3: an zero. 2587 02:21:56,600 --> 02:22:00,959 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Hopefully. A Florida woman has been arrested for 2588 02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:08,039 Speaker 1: hamburger battery as state begins return to normal. I've heard 2589 02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:13,600 Speaker 1: of her hamburglars, but never ham batterers. Okay, I bet 2590 02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,680 Speaker 1: you won't get hired at McDonald's. Let's see, Even in 2591 02:22:16,720 --> 02:22:19,920 Speaker 1: the country road by mayhem and disease, Florinians still find 2592 02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:22,760 Speaker 1: the time to saw someone with a hamburger. According to police, 2593 02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:28,520 Speaker 1: Tanya Cordero, forty seven, was arrested Monday evening following a 2594 02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:32,400 Speaker 1: conversation with a boyfriend in Largo mobile home. A Largo 2595 02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:37,160 Speaker 1: mobile home owned by the man's mother. Oh. Cordero and 2596 02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:39,959 Speaker 1: the thirty nine year old victim have four children in common, 2597 02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:44,600 Speaker 1: according to arrest affidavit, through though a grandmother has full 2598 02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:48,120 Speaker 1: cussy of the couple's offspring. Oh, that's never good. You 2599 02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:50,879 Speaker 1: got folk kids in common, but the grandma marine and everything. 2600 02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:54,560 Speaker 1: That's that's not a good history. The conversation between Cordera 2601 02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:57,640 Speaker 1: and her boyfriend was poorly touched off when Cordero, seen 2602 02:22:57,720 --> 02:23:00,680 Speaker 1: at right, became upset when the man closed window in 2603 02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:04,600 Speaker 1: her room. So investigator's alleged Cardero smashed a hamburger in 2604 02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:08,320 Speaker 1: his face. When questioned by police, Cordero denied doing so, 2605 02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:11,680 Speaker 1: but her boyfriend still had hamburger in his ear upon arrival. 2606 02:23:12,120 --> 02:23:14,600 Speaker 3: Dah, where's the beef in my year? 2607 02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully it wasn't a burger king burger, Cordero, cops added, 2608 02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:21,440 Speaker 1: made it it. 2609 02:23:21,520 --> 02:23:24,240 Speaker 3: Didn't flame barroad. 2610 02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Cordero made a comment that she hoped he choked on 2611 02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:30,960 Speaker 1: the burger. Charged with domestic battery of misdemeanor, Cordero was 2612 02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:33,240 Speaker 1: later released from the kind of jail on her own recognizance, 2613 02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:35,680 Speaker 1: and judges ordered her to have no contact with the 2614 02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:39,039 Speaker 1: victim Cardero's rap. She includes conviction the theft, narcotics possession, 2615 02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:41,600 Speaker 1: provided a false name the police. In January, she was 2616 02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:44,879 Speaker 1: convicted of battering her boyfriend during the October twenty nineteen 2617 02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:47,959 Speaker 1: argument about one of their children about one of their 2618 02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:51,720 Speaker 1: children's Halloween costume. She served three months in jail on 2619 02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:57,080 Speaker 1: that conviction. Jesus, okay, why are y'all together at this point? 2620 02:23:57,080 --> 02:24:02,760 Speaker 1: Because I mean good Halloween costume? Closing the window like 2621 02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:06,320 Speaker 1: beating somebody's ass can't be the answer to everything anyway. 2622 02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Guess the race. 2623 02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:08,480 Speaker 3: What's the name again. 2624 02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:13,720 Speaker 1: Tanya Cardrero Cordero. I'm gonna go with white, Karen's going 2625 02:24:13,800 --> 02:24:18,240 Speaker 1: with white. Let's check the chat room. Uh meth head 2626 02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:26,080 Speaker 1: white for false named the police white them white. Not 2627 02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guesses, a bigger burger, batterer black. I'm going, 2628 02:24:30,520 --> 02:24:33,000 Speaker 1: oh for three, I guess Florida white. White. She's mad 2629 02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:36,199 Speaker 1: because he didn't crush up her bas sauce. Right white. 2630 02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:40,280 Speaker 1: Nobody in the house getting got McDonald's money. Black, white, Dominican, 2631 02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:44,480 Speaker 1: old Florida white and white put her in the paddy 2632 02:24:44,520 --> 02:24:48,720 Speaker 1: wagon white. The correct answer is and I will accept 2633 02:24:48,800 --> 02:24:53,959 Speaker 1: latenix and Dominican. I will count. But everybody else got 2634 02:24:53,959 --> 02:25:09,440 Speaker 1: it wrong and one person got it right. So golf class, 2635 02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:15,360 Speaker 1: it's doing that thing where I can't show you guys 2636 02:25:15,360 --> 02:25:18,560 Speaker 1: my screen give me one second, matter of fact. This time, 2637 02:25:18,560 --> 02:25:20,960 Speaker 1: I'll just copy and paste the link into the chat. 2638 02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:23,119 Speaker 1: You guys can click on it if you want to, Okay, 2639 02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:26,920 Speaker 1: but uh, it won't let me show you all my 2640 02:25:26,959 --> 02:25:28,920 Speaker 1: screen without refreshing, And I didn't want to have to 2641 02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:32,200 Speaker 1: refresh on y'all. Again, you know, so just leave it 2642 02:25:32,200 --> 02:25:34,080 Speaker 1: at there, all right, Let's go to sore ratchiness and 2643 02:25:34,080 --> 02:25:34,840 Speaker 1: then we'll get out of here. 2644 02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:42,320 Speaker 4: Oh mm hmm. 2645 02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went with Dominican, but you know she should 2646 02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:56,440 Speaker 1: be some level of black. Yeah, thank you. 2647 02:25:56,680 --> 02:25:58,879 Speaker 3: Like I do it again, right, Like. 2648 02:25:59,320 --> 02:26:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to motherfucking You're gonna get a double 2649 02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:03,879 Speaker 1: bud double burger next time. 2650 02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:08,520 Speaker 3: You're gonna get in my way, not your way. 2651 02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:09,080 Speaker 4: Right. 2652 02:26:10,040 --> 02:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Let's see three attack with bamboo sword over bamboo and 2653 02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:15,279 Speaker 1: a sword over argument of wearing a mask. 2654 02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:16,360 Speaker 4: Oh. 2655 02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:19,920 Speaker 1: Three persons including two brothers were attacked in Chimber using 2656 02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:24,200 Speaker 1: bamboo sword and chopper after they stopped the man for 2657 02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:26,640 Speaker 1: not wearing a mask while using a public toilet. 2658 02:26:26,680 --> 02:26:28,240 Speaker 3: So the sald was made out of bamboo. 2659 02:26:28,360 --> 02:26:30,800 Speaker 1: No bamboo kamma sword. 2660 02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:36,040 Speaker 3: Oh so we're using bamboo and the sword, but goddamn. 2661 02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:44,120 Speaker 1: According to tulak Nagar Police Station, Kurtin sing surrenders. Sing 2662 02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:48,840 Speaker 1: Rana thirty four, his brother inder Scene thirty three, and 2663 02:26:48,879 --> 02:26:53,720 Speaker 1: their friend Masouda Shaikh twenty two were near the public 2664 02:26:53,760 --> 02:26:59,680 Speaker 1: toilet in Nagayati at p L lock hand road when 2665 02:26:59,680 --> 02:27:04,680 Speaker 1: they indulged in an argument with one Salim Sadik thirty eight. 2666 02:27:06,080 --> 02:27:08,640 Speaker 1: He saund like he'll cut a nigga. Come on, uh. 2667 02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Curting Scene's father runs the public toilet. They asked, you 2668 02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:18,240 Speaker 1: run the toilet, okay, ask Sadik to wear a mask 2669 02:27:18,280 --> 02:27:20,760 Speaker 1: before using the toilet, which led to an argument between 2670 02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:23,680 Speaker 1: them later in the night. So it's not just America. 2671 02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:26,400 Speaker 1: Later in the night around eight fifteen pm, and three 2672 02:27:26,400 --> 02:27:30,200 Speaker 1: of his accomplices attack curtain scene, Inder Scene and my 2673 02:27:30,280 --> 02:27:33,280 Speaker 1: suit with a bamboo stick, while ender scene was attacked 2674 02:27:33,320 --> 02:27:35,520 Speaker 1: on the head and back using the sword and the chopper. 2675 02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:38,560 Speaker 3: Because I wondered, was it like a how was it 2676 02:27:38,600 --> 02:27:41,840 Speaker 3: like a public toilet where the holes in the ground? 2677 02:27:41,959 --> 02:27:43,600 Speaker 3: Was a public toilet where it was separate? You know? 2678 02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:44,320 Speaker 3: Because it varies? 2679 02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Well, why don't you go over there? See characters. I 2680 02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:49,120 Speaker 1: don't have to answer these questions, Okay, please don't go 2681 02:27:49,240 --> 02:27:52,000 Speaker 1: justting on me over here? Okay, I don't I don't know. 2682 02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't know either. But we're stand in line for 2683 02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:57,240 Speaker 3: the toilet. 2684 02:27:57,320 --> 02:28:01,080 Speaker 1: Toilet apparently somebody runs. It's all the information I have, 2685 02:28:01,160 --> 02:28:04,440 Speaker 1: and it is loosely translated article. I don't have any details. 2686 02:28:04,720 --> 02:28:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The police have arrested s ADEC under Indian 2687 02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Penal Code section three O seven attempt to murder and 2688 02:28:12,360 --> 02:28:16,000 Speaker 1: three twenty four voluntary cause it hurt by dangerous weapons 2689 02:28:16,120 --> 02:28:19,960 Speaker 1: or means, among others. They are looking for the three 2690 02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:20,960 Speaker 1: other suspects. 2691 02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:24,160 Speaker 3: Hope you catch them. 2692 02:28:24,280 --> 02:28:26,800 Speaker 1: It's not just America that don't want a well a mask. 2693 02:28:27,640 --> 02:28:29,920 Speaker 1: All right, y'all, that's it for today's episode. Thank y'all 2694 02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:32,840 Speaker 1: for listening. You can find us on the Blackout tips 2695 02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:36,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Oh, the premium page works again. I had 2696 02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:37,440 Speaker 1: to take it down for a bit because I couldn't 2697 02:28:37,440 --> 02:28:39,200 Speaker 1: get the shit to work, but I figured it out. 2698 02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:41,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to sign up, I mean, you 2699 02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:43,680 Speaker 1: can still just go to the blackoutips dot com slash 2700 02:28:43,680 --> 02:28:46,360 Speaker 1: registering and become a premium listener. You can also go 2701 02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:49,359 Speaker 1: to the blackoutips dot com slash Premium and become a 2702 02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:53,600 Speaker 1: premium listener as well. So, and thank you for. 2703 02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:55,519 Speaker 3: All those that are becoming premium. 2704 02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we see y'all out there. People are still becoming 2705 02:28:58,480 --> 02:29:00,280 Speaker 1: premium in this time, in. 2706 02:29:00,200 --> 02:29:03,599 Speaker 3: These times, yes, and these times. 2707 02:29:03,320 --> 02:29:07,920 Speaker 1: These uncertain times where black people have just called them 2708 02:29:07,959 --> 02:29:10,760 Speaker 1: these times. All the times is uncertain, yes they are, 2709 02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:13,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, you can check us out there. I hope 2710 02:29:13,160 --> 02:29:17,119 Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed this episode and you know, until next time, 2711 02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:18,039 Speaker 1: I love you. 2712 02:29:18,120 --> 02:29:18,640 Speaker 3: I love you too. 2713 02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:19,039 Speaker 1: Wow.