WEBVTT - The Draymond Green Show - Gilbert Arenas 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:08.360 The volume. The Draymond Green Show is presented by FanDuel. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.680 The NBA season kicking into gear. Baby. No better place 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.480 to get in on the action than FanDuel. FanDuel app 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.480 is safe, You get paid fast, a lot of ways 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.759 to play the spread, the money line, team totals, players, props, 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.000 a lot of stuff over unders, jump into the action. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.200 Same game parlays are my favorite. Just use the promo 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:40.400 code Colin and download the fan Duel app today. What's up, everybody? 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.280 Welcome back to The Draymond Green Show. Our next guests. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.239 I'm excited to have because you know, this guy obviously 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:54.120 great basketball player, had a really good career. Actually a 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.000 lot of people who I've talked to has said it's 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.840 the best player they've ever played with, Like most talented 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.160 they've played with. Like several people I'm talking Andre Dalla, 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.679 Richard Jefferson, like real NBA guys, like all stars I 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.360 have all said best player they played with. Uh No, chill, 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.680 gil Gilbert Arena's my brother. Welcome to the show. I 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:21.880 appreciate you for having me. Thank you for having me absolutely. Um. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.960 You know, first off, you know, just getting into early life. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.840 You know, born in Tampa, Florida. At what age did 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.000 you move to the valley uh and you know out 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.880 here in Los Angeles. Yeah, so my dad decided to 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.080 become an inspired actor. You know, I wanted to do 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:42.160 the Hollywood life. So around seven is when we took 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:48.520 the journey, um from Tampa to uh CALLI uh didn't 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.360 work out so well. You know, was homeless for a 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.160 little bit, lived in a car for a little bit, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.919 and then um, because he didn't have his his ship together, 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.120 he uh shipped me back to the Tampa But until 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.160 he got to the you know stable, he was working 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:08.280 with Chuck Norris, Mike Tyson, bodyguarding for Mike Tyson, John 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:12.160 Claude Van Dam And once he got situated, I came 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.160 back out around ten. Okay, what effect do you feel 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.880 like it had on you? Moving on her? Because like 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.960 la as you know, is a hot bed for talent 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.400 in the basketball out here is dire For Florida, it's 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.960 more of a football state. What effect did that have 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.520 on your life and moving out here? That's the funny. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.120 Parnt I was a football player, real I was. Yes, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.080 I was a straight football player, baseball player, so nothing 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:40.160 about basketball. And my dad was making ends meet coaching basketball. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.600 So he was coaching and refereeing, right, So I'll just 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.760 be sitting there or playing outside at the park. So 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.280 I never really paid attention to basketball. And then what 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.440 ended up happening is one of my friends in school 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.480 lived next to the park, so I used to go 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.080 watch him play. He's like, I'm trying out, So I 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.240 was like, should I will try out too? And then 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.640 whatever he said, I just copied point guard point guard right, 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.240 you know. It was one of those things. And then, um, 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.959 you know that's how I got started. Yeah, my boy, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.440 Bobby Mitchell. Ye, that's crazy. Yeah, going back there, that's 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.600 that's NUSU. You go through finished school here, go through 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.480 high school, you go to University of Arizona. Um, you know, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.080 play for the great Lou Olson. What was that experience 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.240 like as a freshman going into Arizona? I know, those 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.400 legendary coaches like that can be really tough on freshman now. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:36.200 You know. You know what's funny, um it if it 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.800 wasn't for Loot, I probably would have made it to 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.720 the NBA. I probably would have been kicked out of school. Um. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.840 You know, I was young. I was seventeen going in, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.280 so I was real immature, right. I was like it 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:54.600 was I was twelve going into college as most of us, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.080 like the kids side of me, just want to do 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.760 everything that I can possibly can, paintball, shooting like I 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.280 did everything, fire, alarm, ringe and still in the go 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.800 karts or the golf carts from the security. So lud 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.760 Olsen didn't penalize me on the basketball court for the 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.479 immature stuff I was doing outside of the court, and 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.479 he's like, you know what if the school decides to 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.599 penalize you, you won't be able to play this. So 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.760 that's if you mess up here, they gonna take it 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.600 away from you. I don't need to do that. And 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.360 then from there made me understand like what this can 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.120 affect this and then if I don't want this affect 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.520 of this court, then I got to really, you know, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.680 calm down on this side of the on this side 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.120 of the lines. Absolutely, And your sophomore year you go on, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.040 you win Pac ten Player of the Year, you carry 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:51.400 squad to the national championship game where y'all eventually lose 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.360 to do But what was that? What was that year? Like, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.839 you know, you have a decent freshman year, good freshman year, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.400 and then really t taking that jump that next year? 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.680 What was like, what happened with you? Was it to 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.919 confidence jump? Obviously he's working on your game, but what 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.840 helped you take that next step that next your sophomore year. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.800 You know, just like anything, you know, like our rookie 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.080 our rookie season, you know, we don't know what to 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.000 expect when we get there, right you know, Um, you 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.960 know we're watching on TV. It seems faster, seems slower, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.880 you know. You know, so that first year it was 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.880 like I'm just playing just off field. You know. Then 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:31.360 once you know, um, once I got into my second year, 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.480 the game slowed down. I got smarter. Um, I understood 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.640 the rules, more understood players, understood concept and schemes. So 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.840 you know, when we all got into our second year, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:46.440 it was we're going for the championship. Um. You know, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.720 we thought our my rookie season, my freshman season, that 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.120 we were good enough to win it. But we was 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:58.520 no Cincinnati, you know what I mean absolutely, And that's 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.800 Kenyan Martin and those guys that the time, right, yes, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:07.839 Damar Johnson, Kenyan Martin, uh Logan, um, Kenny Satterfield. So 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.720 they were stacked, but there was there was rugged there 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.440 was a rugged group. We was you know, he was 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.440 all for next and stuff. They were just you know, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.440 they was rugged. Um. You know, so going into you know, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.440 the tournament that year, we was really like really filling ourselves. Hey, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:27.440 we blew, y'all, we blew the No need to go there. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.400 They can look up to history if they want to. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:35.960 We're not doing no Michigan State slander here. However, I 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.839 watched that. I watched that game, you know, like you 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:48.440 know us you guys duke Illinois that year was was good. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.880 I think Frank Frank Robinson Frank something. Frank was there, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.640 um and Maryland was yes, you know, so it was 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.359 it was five teams that that could have could have 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.120 won it all that year. Okay, and you know then 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.960 you you decide to take that next step after after 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.080 your sophomore year drafted the thirty first overall pick by 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.520 the Golden State Warriors, number one. What why do you 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.360 think or maybe you know, why did you go second 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.520 round with the talent that you had, the year that 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.600 you had. Then you go to go in the second round? 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.200 What was that about? You know back then them they 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.640 didn't it was them tweeters. And I would tell me 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.640 about that word. Yeah, I was. I was a tweeting guard, 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.720 so I wasn't I wasn't big enough to be a 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.720 shooting guard and wasn't a point guard, right, so I 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.720 was stuck in the middle. So my comparison was like 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.160 a smaller Contino mobile. Um. Yeah, so I was a 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.200 smaller Contino mobile. If you look in that draft and 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.880 said I'm the best one on one player as draft, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:08:01.880 um me doing some things like um like like you 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.440 know through the draft, like I didn't want to do 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:08.280 the trade no tests me. It was it was more 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.760 of a m an ego thing, right. I trained my 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.800 ass off, like I really, like really ran miles and 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.240 then you put this test and say eighteen minutes, but 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.320 nobody can win. That didn't said, well there has to 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.080 be a winner. We just can't just all go to 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.160 eighteen and then you know, like, nah, I want you know, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.880 somebody sat on here three hours. I want that type 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.440 of you know what I mean? So I'm like, why 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.439 why do I need to prove that I'm in shape? 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.800 And then what does this test got to do with drafting? 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.760 And what does this test got to do with training camp? 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.360 So whatever you see here's meaningless to be honest, because 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:43.760 me being in shape now doesn't have nothing to do 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.800 with me being in shape with that season start. So 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.080 like the little things like that, I just seen flaws 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.880 and I attacked the flaws. That's that's interesting. That's interesting, 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.079 and I agree and I understand. I actually I worked 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.880 out for the Boston Celtics UM and they were one 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.200 of my one of my twenty workouts when I was 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.959 coming out, and I worked out for the Boston Celtics 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.280 and they had us do like this Boston Celtics three 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.559 minute run or something at the end of the workout, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.720 and like, I did the run, but like, I'm not 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.840 hauling ass like and it was a good learning experience 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.600 for me. But I did the run. And afterwards, Danny 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.360 Danny Ain't jaxx Me. Who's the president GM at the time, 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.440 Danny Aine jax Me. He's like, yeah, so you I 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.320 expected you to do better in that run. Why why 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.120 didn't you get more lines in the run? And I 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.040 was like, well, quite frankly, I feel like the run. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.800 It's kind of to say whether I'm in shape or not, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.319 But you just watched me work out for two hours 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.520 and destroy everybody, So I'm not really sure, like what 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.400 the run is going to show you? You know what 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.400 I'm saying, Like it's a is not basketball, just running 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.640 from line to line. And like when we just played 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.240 a lot of basketball, we played one two threes, how 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.680 to get out of a trap? I did everything well 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.400 in this workout, So I'm just it's not sure like 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.160 what I really needed to prove in this run, Like 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:10.240 I don't that don't really work? Understand that? Ye? Like 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:15.160 it's the draft process to me is so flawed. Um, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.080 you let players dodge players, Like if if I'm if 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.440 I'm a team right and I'm I'm looking at a 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.800 few guys, I want to put them together, Like this 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.000 player's dodging this player. If you're dodging this player, then 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.600 why would I want you? Yes, you're not gonna take 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.720 You're not taking the challenge. I want the guy that's 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.360 willing to take the challenge. He's willing to say, I'm 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.120 testing my skill against everybody. Because when the NBA, you 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.800 can't sit games and be skinned. You know that, you 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.480 know what I mean. So it's like it's it was 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.839 one of those things where when you go through it 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.240 and it doesn't work the way it should have, you 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:56.120 be like this is flawed. Like I did seventeen workouts Sacramento. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:00.280 I went, I went like twenty three for twenty five 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.559 from three. Their excuse for us I couldn't shoot because 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.520 they said, all I had a set shot. You know, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.520 that's not realistic. It can get blocked. It's too slow, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:10.920 And I was like, how am I going to get blocked? 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.520 In fact? A pump fake? It's like it's like it 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.600 just make excuses, right, you just make up excuses. Not 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.360 the draft. Just say you didn't want to draft me, bro, 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:23.400 That's right. But no, absolutely, it doesn't. It doesn't measure 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.640 your heart. It doesn't measure if you have heart, if 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:31.800 you have a work ethic. And that's why a Hall 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.440 of Famer like yourself can go in a second round 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.240 and they're not and they not They miss it because 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.480 this this doesn't measure this. This system doesn't measure who 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.400 has it, who wants it, you know, And that's the 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.640 problem with it. Absolutely, I agree, you get drafted and 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.599 you get the number zero. I've heard um speculation of 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.120 why you got the number zero. But I think what's 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.880 also impressive, it's like I feel like you were really 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.520 the first person to really go that route like zero 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.160 and kind of make that number a thing, you know 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.480 what I'm saying. And I don't think people in sports 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:14.560 or fans, I would say, really understand that, like the 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.080 impact that you had on the game, Like zero was 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.319 a ship number. Now zero is a very prominent number, 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:27.880 you know. Um, but what was your reasoning for going 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.680 with number zero once you was drafted? Yeah? So actually 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.880 started in college, so I was twenty five because I 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.720 was a Penny Hardaway fan. So I'm you know, I 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:42.480 was Penny Memphis Penny, I'm Penny Hardaway. So going into Arizona, um, 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.839 you know, looking at get twenty five. But that was 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.360 Steve Kerr's number. Ye, So they were saying they're going 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.800 to retire it so you can't play in it. So 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.040 I'm like, uh, I don't have any other number. So 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.760 they said, all right, these two numbers are being released 0:12:55.760 --> 0:13:00.640 this year. One in zero. The first thing I'm talking, oh, Penny. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.240 But when that zero. When I seen the zero, I 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.560 was like, man, that's how many minutes they said I 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.360 will play in Arizona. They said I am not a 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.920 Arizona type of player, and I'm gonna play zero minute. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.880 So I was like, I want to go to zero 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.120 so I can like, no matter what I'm doing, I 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.080 can always look at it. And this is what they said, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.160 you was gonna play zero minutes. So you know, So 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:30.040 when I went to Golden State drafted thirty one, mad hot, 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.040 you know through my Qubicsaconia out the window, get all out. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.040 I want that. I don't know if they have to 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.160 record it, but this is a recording that you should find. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.240 I was the cockiest person when I got drafted, Like 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.200 I was mad, like I don't care about this. Hey, hey, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.920 by the middle of the season, I'm gonna be starting. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:53.360 I don't care who's in front of me. I'm gonna 0:13:53.360 --> 0:14:00.880 be starting. Click geez, and you are. Yeah. It ended 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:08.080 up happening forty games. It wasn't promised like me started, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.280 Me started happening overnight. It wasn't just saying what what 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.080 What was your break? Like my break was David League 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.320 got hurt um I started the season. We started like 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.120 sixteen and one or something, and then the rest was history. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.000 What was your break? To kind of get you over 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.920 that hump after those first forty games, it was it 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:30.360 was Mookie Baylock basically getting kicked off the team because 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:36.040 he wasn't being a veteran UM. Then Larry Hughes going 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.840 down with an eagle spring, so I was on IR. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.720 Like back then, we didn't have G League League, we 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.840 didn't have UM. So I was on IR and I'm 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.240 playing like, you know, two minutes, one minute if there's 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.000 a blot over with it, you know. There was no 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.160 me getting a little There was none of that. So 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.520 it was she wrote a one hundred like really fast. UM. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.400 So Larry Hughes goes down, and then they took me 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.600 off IR. Bobby so didn't want to start, so he's like, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.400 I'm I'm playing well at where I am right now, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.280 So putting bench for a couple of minutes, you know, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.160 let me see how the game was going. Then set 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.880 me in. That sounds that sounds. That sounds like a 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.760 like a true vet who knows I gotta go out 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.160 here and deal with these starters. I'm gonna keep coming 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.240 off the bench so I can play against these guys 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.360 coming off the bench. You're gonna deal with the starters up. Yeah, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:28.200 and Dave Cowen's got fired, so Dave okay, Collens got fired, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.520 and Brian Winters ended up being the coach and Brian 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.560 Winters was like, you know, I'm gonna go with the guys, 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.280 you know, who play hard, who work hard, who shows 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.760 up every day for practice. And because I was coming 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.720 in at six o'clock in the morning, you know, working 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:48.560 on my game, Mark Jackson like, Mark Jackson saved my career. Um, wow, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.760 mine too, by the way, Mark's mine too, by the way, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:59.560 Yeah no, not that one. Philly Mark Jackson. Oh okay, okay, Philly. 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.240 Mark said he were teammates and he used to wake 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:04.840 me up back sister to click and say, man, listen, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.920 don't worry about where you are. He said, I made 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.760 twenty five million, and I only played twenty five games, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.960 the last twenty five games, and up made twenty five million. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.720 And he was like, just just focus and he was 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.800 just teaching me playing because I was in a funk like, man, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.360 I don't you know, I'm probably not good enough. And 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.400 I was, you know, I was ready quick. I was 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.080 ready to I was ready to quit. And then all 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.480 of a sudden, you know, when when he said my name, 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.000 I was actually ready. That's dope. I always tell people 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.760 your name is getting your name, your number is getting 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.840 called in the NBA, and if you're not ready, it 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.640 may never get called again. Yep, you're gonna get called once, 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.760 and it is so important that you're ready for that 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.160 when they call your name. I tell these young guys 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.560 like man I used I used to get called in 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.640 with twenty seconds ago to go guard Colby because they 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.040 got the game when the shot coming up, Like that's 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.280 how I got on the floor. So you have to 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.320 be ready for that name getting called. But coming out 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.800 thirty first pick, you sign a two year, eight hundred 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:12.240 million dollars excuse me, eight hundred thousand, eight hundred forty 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:16.520 five thousand dollars contract for two years, and something very 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.840 interesting happens happened with you. And you know, for those 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.520 of you out there that don't quite understand the CBA, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.800 which is the Collective Bargaining Agreement you see all these 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.320 contracts and different things, it is the agreement that is 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.240 the rule book, the law book, or whatever you want 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.600 to call it for the NBA. It's what we have 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.159 to go by. That's how what the NBA functions on 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.560 is the CBA, and is they have something in their 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.000 call to Gilbert Arenas rule. For those of you that 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:53.600 don't understand the Gilbert Arenas rule outlet Gilbert Arenas, explain 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.560 the Gilbert Arenas rule to you. But you go on 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.960 to sign a six year, sixty four million dollar contract 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.880 after your second year in the NBA, can you explain 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.040 to us to get over Arena's rule and what you 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.920 went through during that period and signed and your contract 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.160 in and the signing that new deal as a restrict 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.800 to free asient. Okay, so you know, like they had 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.760 the bird rights, meaning like after four years, you know 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.480 you get you get some type of rights. Right, So 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.680 with a second year player, no second year player basically 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.400 played over the mid level exception, right, So you know, 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.680 the best best second rounder, but then two years you're 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.480 going to sign mid level. So what ended up happening 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:43.040 is I played above that. So, um like, I think 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.000 it was forty nine million, right was the that was 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.840 the cap of Golden State. And midway through the season, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.679 I was already being like, I remember Kiki Vanderway from 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:59.879 Denver's like, we're offering them fifty one whatever whatever they can, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.480 we're gonna go above that. So it was already be 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.320 said that you're not gonna be able to afford them. Um. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.679 So during that season with coach Musselman. That second season, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.960 they were trying to try to hold the contract down 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.720 by putting me in three minutes, putting you know that 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.640 that was going on. Oh yeah, yeah, that was going 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.760 out because the first part of the season I was aviaciate. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:30.399 About eighteen six and six, you know, I became the 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:34.080 second option at that point. Um, I'm the last five 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:41.280 mining guy. Huh second option to who Antoine Jamison? Okay okay? Um? 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.880 Yeah so anton Antoine Jamison. Um. So he was being 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.440 told to keep him down. You know. So they're trying 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.440 to play me three minutes and then you know, think 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:56.000 my man Earl Boykins. Earl Boykins and UM and coach 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.439 Musselman had a great relationship. And Earl Bullkins is like, like, 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.480 if you want him next year, you don't think he's 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.160 going to remember this. Yeah, right, if you're losing games, 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.680 you don't think you're gonna fire. You play him, play, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.439 play him right? And then you know that's when coaches 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.560 I get in my bad. I'm just and then so 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.720 he uh, he put me out there and I ran 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.240 with it. So when we went to free agency market, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.359 you know it all the doors already opened up. I 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.600 think I was I was either number two behind lamar 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:33.720 Odham okay in the free agency market. So, um, because 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.400 of because of I only played two years, I didn't 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:40.439 have my bird rights, meaning that Golden State can only 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.639 offer me a certain amount, which was forty nine it 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:48.520 was it was basically seven years forty nine million. Oh wow. Yeah, 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.720 so seven year forty nine was the was the max 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.399 that they could offer me. Denver already came out with 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:59.480 six year sixty fifty one. Um, so I went to go. 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.000 I went listen to everyone in Golden State was the 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.439 last one, and I ain't gonna lit. They had a 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:08.280 hell of a pitch. They had a hell of a pitch, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.880 you know what I mean. Um, we were all young. 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.080 We were young. Um. You know they had like a 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:19.679 Viper Ferrari, the Lambo downstairs, the corvette, you know what 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.800 I mean. So what what we were trying to do 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.560 is we were trying to sign the under the table deal, 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.760 you know, one year four point nine and then have 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:36.879 the contract already signed seven years seventy nine million. Okay, 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.720 So that was the That was the deal that I 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.359 was gonna sign now, and then we was both going 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:47.280 to hold it in the vote. Um, and like bye, 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.680 by the time I got to them, Golden Wizards already 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.480 offered me the max they can offer me. So the 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:59.760 owners like, whatever, whatever I have, you know, fifty eight, 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:04.560 sixty one, sixty five, seventy five, whatever I had, it's yours, 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:09.200 just come. So you know, the number was the number 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.080 from Washington was coming around sixty sixty to sixty four. 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.440 It was somewhere around there. So when we did the calculations, 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:18.760 you know, you take the four point nine plus the 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.400 seventy nine came up around about eighty three million. By 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.600 the time matched I would have already been out of 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:28.639 my Washington deal. Yeah, you have Jason Richardson, you have me, 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:33.800 you have Troy Murphy, right, have Yurie Welston. Next year, 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:37.040 you have done Levy. Someone was gonna get screwed. All 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.359 of us wasn't going to get our money. And you know, 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.159 it was basically like the only one that can get 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.800 screwed who don't have a name is you. And I 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.040 had to really take that in consideration, like if I 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:51.680 got hurt that next year and didn't perform, you know 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.199 what I mean. So I was like, you know what, 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.360 as much as I want to love to stay here, 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.880 I need to go and branch off myself. That's very interesting. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.440 Like I said, for those of you, um that don't understand, 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:09.439 as a second round pick, I actually benefited off of 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:13.800 off the Gilbert Arenas rule. UM, because you're you're you're if, 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:15.840 if you're a second or so if you're if you 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.920