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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable Mental Wealth Podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jay Glazer. Got a great guest today. We alwy's got

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Speaker 2: great guests. But this guy is one of my dearest

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Speaker 2: oldest friends ever had in the National Football Ye he's

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Speaker 2: coaching now.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get him in a second. Ear.

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Speaker 2: If you're like many people, you may be surprised to

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Speaker 2: learn that one in five adults in this country experience

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Speaker 2: mental illness last year. Get far too many fail to

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Speaker 2: receive the support they need. Carolyn, behavioral Health is doing

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Speaker 2: something about it. They understand that behavioral health is a

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Speaker 2: key part of full health, delivering compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional,

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Speaker 2: and social needs in tandem. Carylyn behavioral Health raising the

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Speaker 2: quality of life from empathy and action. All right, Welcome

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Speaker 2: into Unbreakable Mental Wealth Podcast with Jay Glazer. And Look,

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Speaker 2: sometimes people come in your life. You haven't met him

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Speaker 2: in the past. The moment you meet them, you feel

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Speaker 2: like you've grown up with them, You feel instant family.

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Speaker 3: And this guy is one of those people.

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Speaker 4: To me.

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Speaker 2: You may know him as a Heisman Trophy winner. You

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Speaker 2: may know him as a fall on one foot short

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Speaker 2: of a Super Bowl winner, several time Pro bowler, now

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Speaker 2: coach of the Tennessee State Tigers, the one and only

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Speaker 2: Eddie George Dude mit as we call it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for reminding me yet again, I'm a one

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Speaker 5: yard shy of probably hoisting up a Lombardi Trophy that

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I need to, you know, whether I

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Speaker 2: said or not, It's been thrown at you pretty.

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Speaker 3: Much a lot lately. It's like it's an anniversary recently. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was a twenty years how long?

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Speaker 4: Twenty We played two thousands, so who was twenty four

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Speaker 4: years ago? So I'll hit that twenty fifth?

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Speaker 3: Okay there? Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Something just popped up on the feet and I saw

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Speaker 2: it the other day and I'm like, man, First of all,

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Speaker 2: Mike Joe which was the linebacker right time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike Jones the linebacker, and it was was it

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Speaker 4: Dyson who had the Dutch Heavan Dyson? Yes, also who's

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Speaker 4: also coaching that right? No? He is actually a principal

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Speaker 4: at a high school in Tennessee. Amazing work. There, amazing, amazing, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: And he's doing phenomenal work in the nationale community.

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Speaker 4: Just saw him the other day.

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Speaker 5: You know. Unfortunately we lost to Frankie Wachik earlier this year.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it's tough loss for the Titans family. And he's funny.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about unbreakable mental wellness and health, and you know,

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Speaker 5: frank was one of the guys that that struggled with

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Speaker 5: that a bit after football and in terms of finding

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Speaker 5: what was next, and it was on his path to

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Speaker 5: living a wonderful life, got back to that Knoxville whereas

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Speaker 5: granddaughters were living.

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Speaker 4: Grand daughters and grandchild. I believe, yes, he was. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to step talking about grandkids.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately he had an accident and it took his life.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it is funny because that death actually

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Speaker 5: brought us all back together from that team, you know,

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Speaker 5: the ninety nineteen a two thousand era, and we just

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Speaker 5: had like an emergency not an emergency meeting, but he said, listen,

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Speaker 5: everybody from this era to this era meet at Zach

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Speaker 5: Pillar's place at seven thirty.

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Speaker 4: No matter we played a year or two, it does

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Speaker 5: And Jeff Fisher me brat Hopkins, Neil O'Donnell.

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Speaker 4: All the old guys just showed up that.

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Speaker 5: Hadn't seen for years and we just had a session

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Speaker 5: suffered some big losses and during that time from Steve McNair,

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Speaker 5: more guys, and it was like, Okay, how many more

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Speaker 5: blows do we have to take before we just get

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Speaker 5: tired of seeing these guys at funerals, you know, funeral right,

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Speaker 5: And it was like, man, we got to see each

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So that that was a

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Speaker 5: that was a big deal for us.

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest part of having a team. And like,

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Speaker 2: especially if you have an NFL team, Yeah, you always

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Speaker 2: have those ponds. A lot of guys think I'm retired,

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Speaker 2: no one wants to hear from me. Bullshit, I defesn't

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Speaker 2: want to hear from you, but not only that, you know,

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Speaker 2: any when I was funny, because when I started really

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Speaker 2: doing it helped me on days that I had funny

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Speaker 2: because you see me when I had my meltdowns.

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Speaker 3: But we didn't know what the fuck it was back then.

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Speaker 3: We just was Gladiers was crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Glazier had depression anxiety.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have labels back down like that in that

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Speaker 2: way with my depression anxiety. Now that I've been open

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Speaker 2: there we're all fucking hates me and yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all four people right away and say, man, today's one

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Speaker 2: of those days. Man, where the beast got out of

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Speaker 2: the box and I'm just in a bad place. And

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Speaker 2: then I'll call four other people and not tell them

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Speaker 3: Nice, that's being of service.

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Speaker 2: But all a sudden, I got a team of me

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Speaker 2: and plus eight right, so there's nine of us, so

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Speaker 2: it's an instant team.

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Speaker 3: And team for me is one of the big tools

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Speaker 5: It instantly works, you know, Jay, that's awesome to hear,

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Speaker 5: you know, even even today, Like for me right now,

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Speaker 5: you know, this past week has been the hell has

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Speaker 5: broken lips. My my youngest cousin, not my youngest cousins,

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Speaker 5: but my my younger cousin was murdered in Philadelphia, Oh,

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Speaker 5: wrong time. No, my wife's brother just passed away last night.

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Speaker 5: And on the professional level, I hired what I thought

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Speaker 5: finds a better opportunity, you know, elsewhere at the Power

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Speaker 5: it's overwhelming. It feels like the world's caving in on you.

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Speaker 4: And you know, who do you reach out to? Who

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Speaker 5: So immediately I called my pastor, talk to my wife,

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Speaker 2: Look at that you reached out instead of too many

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Speaker 2: guys isolate when that happens ergo. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: be a burden on everybody else. It's great you're not

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Speaker 2: being a burden, like when when you call me or

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Speaker 4: Yes, and even being on this show is healing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I could have easily cost

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Speaker 4: to Jay. You know what. I got a lot going on.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm dealing with X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 5: But you need a show like this to demonstrate, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: This is healing for my soul, to connect with you, to.

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Speaker 5: Share like, hey man, thanks aren't great, but this here like, hey,

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Speaker 4: You've been through it before. Life's full of ups and downs.

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Speaker 5: It's highs and lows, peaks and valleys, and what you

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Speaker 5: You know, you you battle back, you know, you connect,

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Speaker 5: you commit your care. You know what I'm saying, and

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Speaker 5: that's what I teaching my team.

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Speaker 4: You know, being a head.

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Speaker 5: Coach, shit you talk about You're just not you know,

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Speaker 5: walking around with a whistle, you know, saying hey, you

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Speaker 4: Guy to do a drill over and do it right again.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're teaching.

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Speaker 5: Them about life, man, and how to take hits and

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Speaker 5: overcome it and have a system, a people, a network,

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Speaker 4: And it's going to challenge me. It's going to expose me,

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Speaker 5: Like, all right, coach, you got you got hit three times,

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Speaker 5: just saying, hey, I need help. I'm drowning here. Who

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that First of all, man,

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Speaker 3: So twenty four cents look at us like I'm smiling.

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Speaker 2: I was doing the read for the show, and I

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Speaker 3: The ship I've pulled on you.

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Speaker 3: I just thought. I'm like, I bet you he's going

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Speaker 5: Oh god, an endlest The one thing that pissed me

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Speaker 4: Were on the set sick. Hearely sick, sniff So I

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Speaker 4: wasn't sick. You were sick. You were sick. No. Then

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Speaker 4: then and then you shut it up beautifully right.

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Speaker 5: And then in between a commercial break or break we

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Speaker 4: But I knew you knew, like you just.

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Speaker 5: You and all that shit, man, I said, then you

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Speaker 5: started laughing.

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Speaker 4: He said, no, it was a joke. It was you.

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Speaker 4: I was deep red.

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Speaker 2: I was hot because I did this fake sneeze. I

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Speaker 2: I've been sniffling for like half the day as a

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Speaker 3: And I'm just like, oh, sorry about that man in

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Speaker 4: Sneezed on me.

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Speaker 2: It's me and you, Tim Brown and Jason hosting and

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Speaker 5: Nut Pro Football Preview. First time with you guys. I'm

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Speaker 4: she said, okay, ready, five four three.

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Speaker 5: He slides the paper over to me because you're I'm nervous,

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Speaker 4: Is going to give me a nugget that he's coming

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Speaker 5: You know, I was talking about the Niners or somebody

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Speaker 4: Or something, and there's a picture of me or me standing.

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Speaker 3: I think it was Tim you and Tim Brown, No, it.

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Speaker 2: Was it was Michael straighthand yeah it was Tim Brown,

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Speaker 3: Other one over.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm like that was his.

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Speaker 3: First second on National TV.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Pro Football, previous Jay Glads ready to George

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Speaker 2: to Braes and Eddie.

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Speaker 3: Welcome aboard. I had to loosen jup. Man did it?

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Speaker 4: And it did? Man that it is now another one.

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Speaker 3: The laughter part too.

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Speaker 2: Eddie has one of the saddst funniest stories in the

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Speaker 2: history of.

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Speaker 3: Any award ever.

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Speaker 2: Now all the world would happen when you won the

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Speaker 3: To go through TSA with it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is unbelievable, people, this is unbelievable. In nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety five, you know the world was still safe.

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Speaker 3: And wait, stop walking back and forth. You're making me dophins.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I'm thinking about you know, that incident

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Speaker 5: we did the whole thing with the tours, going to

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Speaker 4: The world to know, like, you know, I'm a His

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Speaker 4: and Trophy winner.

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Speaker 5: I said, well, you can elect to have a ship

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Speaker 5: They said, most of the hides and Trophy winners they

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Speaker 5: take it back with you. So I said, great, I'll

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Speaker 5: be glad to take it back with you. So we

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Speaker 5: and we go check our bag.

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Speaker 3: You're holding the trophy proudly.

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Speaker 5: I'm holding the trophy probably by both the legs. One

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Speaker 5: of lake here is you have the highest man. You've

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Speaker 5: got the two legs. I'm holding it here. It's about

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Speaker 5: twenty five pounds now, is pretty heavy. So I go

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Speaker 5: to the security guy and I'm like, okay, how are

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Speaker 4: X ray machine is not going to fit. So I'm wondering,

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Speaker 5: It to you through the security thing or what?

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Speaker 4: Probably going to work this out?

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Speaker 5: He says, sir, put it on the conveyor belt so

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Speaker 4: Doesn't look like it's going to fit. I'm very it's

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Speaker 4: like my first It's like a Christmas Day for me.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, you see it as a Heisman award

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Speaker 4: The rest of the world don't get hold of you, right,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this is a prestigious award. You can see.

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 5: There's no gun and it just why don't you just

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Speaker 5: hand it to me across the's no, put it on the

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Speaker 5: me to put it on its eddie is fine, just

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Speaker 4: We'll get through it.

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Speaker 5: I walked through the check through and I'm waiting on

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Speaker 5: the other side for my trophy to come out, and.

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Speaker 4: It's and it went in like this.

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Speaker 5: It goes like in the Heisman hand first, Heisman hand first.

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Speaker 5: So I'm waiting and I noticed that thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I'm laughing as all right as you're

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Speaker 2: It's still a subject, of course, it's still very painful.

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Speaker 4: It's still very painful. The conveyor belt stops and he's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: he says, such and such reversed it. Oh, that's good. First,

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Speaker 4: so he says, push it again. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Then he says, let me get my hand in here.

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Speaker 5: Let me see if I can, you know, help it

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he says, push it and give it to Momento.

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Speaker 5: So he's pushing it in the classing leg and he's

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Speaker 5: pulling it this way. It's no reverse. Then they finally

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Speaker 5: gets them forty W forty D and and rub up

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Speaker 5: the sec the basket lean all that. They finally pull

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Speaker 5: it out Jay and the middle finger is pointing back

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Speaker 5: at hiding Johnny Heydsman's face, and oh my god, it was.

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Speaker 4: I was like, so, who's going to pay for this?

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Speaker 2: I mean like so that the fingers pointed back. So

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Speaker 4: Yes, and the finger is they broke my finger.

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Speaker 5: The middle finger is pointing back forth his face. They

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Speaker 5: broke your hesman, They broke my heisman man, And I

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Speaker 3: Was there any apologies? Nothing?

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Speaker 4: Just like, oh my god, nothing to see here?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Well, so long story short. We we get back to

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Speaker 5: tell the heisman this. They're laughing hysterically about it. It's

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Speaker 5: like you're the only heisman trope we wanted to ever

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Speaker 4: He's been broken before. And by the way, we.

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Speaker 5: Could have shipped for you. We were only joking that

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Speaker 5: that people take it to the airport.

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Speaker 3: Did they shift you a new one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gave me a new one. And on the old questions,

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Speaker 4: it's back at the back of the trust. I should

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Speaker 4: have kept the old one.

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Speaker 3: Actually, wait a minute, back of the trust what I

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Speaker 4: Back of the heisman? Trump did they have they have it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have it, and you have a brand new one,

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Speaker 2: So your original one is back at heisman.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of got to be more valuable than the.

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Speaker 2: It has to be the ones, right, I would think though,

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Speaker 5: One deformed heisman in the history, and of course it

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Speaker 5: would be me absolutely And we've.

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Speaker 2: All had issues with TSA and problems going to the airport,

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Speaker 2: but nothing like this, never like this one.

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Speaker 3: Right, How do you think I would have handled that?

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Speaker 4: And then the rest you would have been.

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Speaker 5: Handcuffed, without doubt, lifted off your legs, pulled out, no

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Speaker 4: It would at least ten years, no doubt, at least

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Speaker 2: All right, so you know again, Eddie Jory is joined

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Speaker 2: I guess here Heisman Trophy winner worthy deformed hives from Trophy,

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Speaker 2: also a you know, I think, an absolute Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: but now the coach of the Tennessee State Tigers. So

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Speaker 2: when you're first going Dallas Journey, you would call me in,

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Speaker 2: you know, just trying to get through as many people

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Speaker 3: And at first you were like, I don't know, and

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Speaker 3: you know, because there's other things you're doing. Eddie is

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Speaker 3: incredibly successful. While he was on our show, he was going.

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Speaker 2: To Kellogg Business School, right, And at the same time, also,

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Speaker 2: you were up for did you play the Broadway play Chicago?

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Speaker 3: Chicago? But you're also weren't you up for the lead

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Speaker 4: I actually auditioned for it and fail miserably. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Eddie's just my point is there's nothing he can't do,

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Speaker 2: and yet the threat for the fear of you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: how am I going to take a whole program that's

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Speaker 3: And I know you really wanted to mold the next generation.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what's been the successes, the hardest problems, the

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: I know that's a long ask question for that man,

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Speaker 3: but you know, well, let's let's start with this.

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Speaker 2: What's some of the things that you've done. And you're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I learned it from my playing days, Like you're a champion,

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Speaker 3: I've used this and it's actually equated to these kids.

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Speaker 5: I tell you what, the best thing that I've done

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Speaker 5: up to date is to paying a vision for these

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Speaker 5: all want to go to the league? What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: You want to go to do you know what it

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Speaker 5: I mean it's a lot that goes into that, right,

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Speaker 5: What does that really mean? You know a lot of

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Speaker 3: Ethic love that.

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Speaker 5: Wow, there is.

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Speaker 4: A big difference.

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Speaker 5: There's dedication, there's a focus, every time, there's intention.

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Speaker 4: The moment that you wake up, you know exactly what

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Speaker 4: to go get my body worked on. I'm gonna work

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Speaker 5: I want to and in the time, not one day,

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Speaker 4: There is a difference. It's a lifestyle. So I've approached

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Speaker 5: Taken all my experiences from playing ball to being on

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Speaker 5: creating an environment to thrives a lifestyle. And it's not

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Speaker 5: you have to breathe, and not very many people want

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Speaker 5: to get it. So what we do every year. I

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Speaker 5: in order just to get into the team room, you

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Speaker 5: have to present your legacy plan. I give it to

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Speaker 4: They have two weeks to prepare it.

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Speaker 5: It's to be written in two enty and fifty words

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Speaker 5: and it's your life legacy.

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Speaker 4: What are you going to be known for?

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Speaker 5: You know, being a Heisman Trophy winner, having so many kids,

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Speaker 5: you know, running a nonprofit, you know, what is your passion?

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Speaker 5: I'm really trying to get these kids to open up

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Speaker 5: and they'll come up and to talk about.

442
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 4: It, and what comes out is amazing. You'll hear so

443
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 4: many different stories.

444
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 5: You hear about guys that hey I was I was

445
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 5: sleeping in a car eating food out of.

446
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 4: The trash can three weeks ago. Wow, I was homeless.

447
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 3: Wow.

448
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 5: So this opportunity means a lot to me. And you're

449
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 5: hearing various stories. So you have you have a chance

450
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 5: to understand somebody's background and you're connecting. You're really connecting.

451
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 5: You're fighting for something larger than yourself. And again, we

452
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 5: could talk about exis and ose and having a spread

453
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 5: office and all, but if you don't have true connectivity,

454
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 5: you're not willing to die or fight for that brother.

455
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 5: Now they might not talk about anything say all that

456
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 5: to say, we had our first winning season last year,

457
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 5: started lost sixty two, our best starts since twenty seventeen,

458
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 5: lost the last three games on the cusp of being

459
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 5: a playoff team.

460
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 4: I think, and I know, I don't think.

461
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 5: I know it's because of the time we spent getting

462
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 5: to know each other, becoming a team.

463
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 4: And that to me was everything.

464
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 5: Learning how to set goals, learning how to paint a vision,

465
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 5: learning how to speak in front of people and express yourself,

466
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 5: being vulnerable.

467
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 4: It was truly remarkable.

468
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: Right man. You know, yeah, man, you talk about this.

469
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 3: I've given mental.

470
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: Health talks to three quote unquote rebuilding teams, and you

471
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: know now I call mental wealth talks.

472
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: But I went in this past year for the Colts,

473
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 3: two years ago.

474
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: To the Vikings and Seahawks, and a lot of things

475
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: was eight guys, you got to take your mental health

476
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 2: as proactively as your physical health. Physical health, man, like,

477
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,239
Speaker 2: you're not just running forties when you're getting you think

478
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: you're slow.

479
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: You're not receivers. You're not just catching passes. When you

480
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: get the drops. You do it over and over and

481
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: over and over. You guys, are just benching when you

482
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: think you're getting weak.

483
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: You're doing it over and over and over when you're

484
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: not dealing with a mental health coach or a therapist

485
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: or something like that, until the sky's falling.

486
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 3: It's too reactive.

487
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: So now, look, there may not be enough therapists out

488
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: there for us right now, but you got ninety guys

489
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: in this room right now. I mean there's ninety therapists.

490
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: I mean, lean into your brother and you're right and

491
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: your left, yes, and that's your team. You you turn

492
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: into them and you start open up to them, and

493
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: they're able to lift you up, and you turn and

494
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: lift them up. Think out how much closer this will make.

495
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: You think of what this will do as a team.

496
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: And it did.

497
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: All three teams really leaned into each other. And I'm

498
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: not saying you know it's because of this, but I

499
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: do think, yeah, the connectivity of their team is what

500
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: made those guys successful. All three of them were playoff

501
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: teams when you're supposed to be a rebuilding years so

502
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: exactly what you're saying.

503
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 4: Man, man, it's awesome.

504
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 5: I'm so glad that you know, when we talked about

505
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 5: this four years ago, I was on the fence. I

506
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 5: was like, you know, coaching, you you know, thousands of coaches.

507
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 5: I've seen you broker deals in front of my face.

508
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, how if the world, oh.

509
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 5: Such and such these the new head coach with the Steelers.

510
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 5: You're like, no, no, this is what you're gonna do.

511
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 4: You're gonna talk.

512
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 6: About You're gonna go in there, you're gonna talk about this, this, this,

513
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 6: this and this those three points you stick to that

514
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 6: you get out of there and you go and you

515
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 6: ask for don't ask for.

516
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: The forty million, ask for fifty, hopeing they'll give you.

517
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what the hell what I've seen? If

518
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: the world only knew, right, only knew what really goes

519
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 4: down my closed doors.

520
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 3: But thank you, buddy.

521
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 5: I knew that you understood the lifestyle of a coach,

522
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 5: and you know me and I had to find out, Man,

523
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 5: is this something that I can be successful at?

524
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: And you know who I am.

525
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You were like, absolutely, but

526
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 5: do it for the right reason. He says, Hey, I

527
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 5: can tell you all the things you need to know.

528
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 5: But here called by Tomlin, here's called this.

529
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: Guy, and I did this.

530
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: It was my Tom and dan Quinn because JA get

531
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: in college at Bard, I think, and I was like,

532
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: keep giving you a white kind of black eye to

533
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: the south from one of the north. And one has

534
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: been in college, one has been right, and that's one

535
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 2: who's been fired, one who hasn't right. So and that's

536
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: I wanted you to have two gamucks of it. And

537
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: both those guys are like, hey remember too, Like it

538
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: was there was a day before game Mike t got

539
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: on the phone with you for a long time.

540
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 4: I did, Yes, he did.

541
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 3: He's like, that was anything for these cats who want

542
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: to do this, you know what?

543
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 4: And that night he lost.

544
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 5: I think he lost to Baltimore that next night and

545
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 5: hadn't won a game the rest of the year, so

546
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he stopped talking to me and I

547
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 5: was like, I was like, oh, no, I am bad

548
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 5: luck or something. But Jay, honestly, man, what I've learned

549
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 5: as a head coach now is I've got to be

550
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 5: the living example for what I expect my team to be.

551
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 5: My staff has to represent that. Dealing with staff is

552
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 5: probably comfort than dealing with the eighteen and nineteen year

553
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 5: olds that you're dealing with on daily be spaces and

554
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 5: coaching them the way that you want things done and

555
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 5: how their way.

556
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: Not their way. Yeah right, your way is our way.

557
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 5: We have a session on the power of a positive team,

558
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 5: and we're going to sit as a staff or want

559
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 5: to talk about or what does our positive messages, our

560
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: positive strategies.

561
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: You know, moving forward.

562
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 5: So they were all collectively moving in the right direction.

563
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 5: So they were were We're not having a discussion or

564
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 5: heated discussion in front of the kids. We have to demonstrate,

565
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 5: you know, how we're going to handle adversity, so we

566
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: when we expect them to do it where they're living

567
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 5: example for that.

568
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: So man, I've just I've learned so much since being

569
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: the coaches.

570
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: By the way, it's.

571
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: Everything I want you people to here what Dy's talking

572
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: about here, it's every startup goes through this, Every business

573
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: goes to this. It's you know, and he's talking about staff,

574
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: and you got to get staff to see your vision

575
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: in a way where they're bought in, not like, oh,

576
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: I'm doing this because he wants me to do it,

577
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: or oh I've.

578
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: Got to do it because but so many guys also

579
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 3: they splinter off.

580
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: They think they built a better mousetrap and that that's

581
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: where you get in trouble, right, Hey, building a mousetrap,

582
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: then go from else to build a moustrap. Right now,

583
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: this mouth trap we're working with and that's a really

584
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: hard that's a really hard thing for all business owners

585
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: to go through. And just for business owners or hearing this,

586
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: we all go through it. Teams go through it, business owners.

587
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: I got a few businesses.

588
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: We all go through it. Yeah. Yeah, man.

589
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: So it's it's been it's been great.

590
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: Man.

591
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 4: So now I'm in the process of finding a new

592
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 4: office of coordinator.

593
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: Man.

594
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: The story that by the kid who is homeless, that

595
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: that's that's unbelievab When things like that happen, do you

596
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: allow yourself because I know you know, the life of

597
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: coach is so hectic and so crazy, do you allow

598
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: yourself any points to sit there and be like, Wow,

599
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: we change this kid's life in that way, and like

600
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: let it fill.

601
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: Your soul up? Or it's just are you an autopilot

602
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 3: because you're working so hard?

603
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 4: No, I take it in good. It means a lot

604
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 4: to me. It is not it's not about I don't

605
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: say it, I've done it.

606
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 5: I say I say the spirit has right and I

607
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 5: try to create a place where where guys can feel

608
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 5: free and and vulnerable and comfortable and trust us.

609
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 4: You know, I'm earning the trust right, you know what

610
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And that's and that's what I've done.

611
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: I think that if you can provide a kid a

612
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 5: place where he can truly express himself and save his

613
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 5: life that way, it's been great.

614
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: So I take it all.

615
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: And there's there's one other kid I'm thinking of too.

616
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 5: He's a problem child. Everybody has, every coach has a

617
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: problem child.

618
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: But he loves to get out of him. You know.

619
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 5: It's so talented, and he's been in a lot of trouble,

620
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 5: kicked off a team.

621
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: That's that's that's how you work for me.

622
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: Really, I thought that was basically more.

623
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 5: But long story short, man, he didn't. He made a

624
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 5: mistake in school and he missed all of last year.

625
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 5: A lot of scouts came in inquiring about this guy,

626
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 5: and I had to tell him the God on his

627
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: truth that hey, he made up some poor choices and

628
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 5: he may not be here for the rest of his

629
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: time here. Long story short, he finds a way to

630
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 5: get back in the graces of the school. He's one

631
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 5: more year left and instead of me saying, hey, you

632
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 5: go work out, you do all this stuff.

633
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: Now, I'm going to show him.

634
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 5: I'm I'm physically going down there working with him one

635
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 5: on one with drills, with burst drills, how to build

636
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: your speed, and working on cuts and all of these things.

637
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: And I'm having a one on one with him building

638
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 5: a report because I don't want to see him on

639
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 5: the news or here get wind of something bad happen.

640
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna exhaust every bullet, every.

641
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: Opportunity to get this guy to understand his purpose that

642
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 5: God has for him and to take life seriously. And

643
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: he's been given nine lives. But guess what, God has

644
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: grace and we have to have grace on each other.

645
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: So you know, those things I really have learned and

646
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 5: embraced as a coach as well.

647
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: How difficult, look, I've seen it. I've coached now since

648
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: two thousand and six. I think I started coaching guys

649
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: in mixed martial arts and players and fighters and football

650
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: players and actually.

651
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 5: Got actors, actors, rappers.

652
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: Rap actors, rappers, singers, everything. Man, I haven't told the

653
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: story yet. I'm gonna tell it to you, and it's

654
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: a total sidetrack thing, but well.

655
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: Have you told the story about how you missed out

656
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: on a famous actress? What are you talking about?

657
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I bleue.

658
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: I blew her phone number of my I blew my

659
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: nose and uh, I don't think we can say what

660
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: it is. I blew my nose in the napkin that

661
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: she gave it to me. I was with you and

662
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: Michael Irvin and she was like, oh, who's your friend?

663
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: And You're like, okay, glazier and we're not gonna say

664
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: it is, but it's a really hugh profile actress. She

665
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: gave me your phone number, and I was like, oh

666
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: my god. And you guys are looking at me like

667
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: you gotta be shipping. I'm like, that's what I do.

668
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: And I came in the next day like, oh my god,

669
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 2: like the sky has falling. I'm like, dude, I need

670
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: some help. I need a girl's number. And Eddie goes,

671
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: what happened?

672
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: I said, I blew my nose in the napkin that

673
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: that she wrote a number in, and Eddie's like, I

674
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: don't know her, Like I don't have her number. I'm like,

675
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: will you introduce me to go?

676
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 5: Well, she's asking you were, Oh my god, what could

677
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 5: have been you will never run across her again, like

678
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: and no, hold you have never, I have never.

679
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: That was twenty years ago. Oh my god.

680
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: Uh okay, Well, now the coaches guys for years, and

681
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: back in the day, man was coaching.

682
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to sid like that old guy who's like,

683
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: oh back in the day.

684
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: But man, the old generation, when you were playing, the

685
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: only way to get famous is to make a fucking

686
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. And nowadays guys think like fucking being famous

687
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: the same as being great, and it's not.

688
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: And it's so much harder to coach.

689
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: Guys because they don't really have like you had to

690
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: bust your ass like Eddie for right, you had to

691
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: make a Pro Bowl for you to get endorsements. You

692
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: had the only way people know who you are back then,

693
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: and nowadays everyone's famous to social media.

694
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: So guys just don't trade now when guys do, like

695
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: the tried Love.

696
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: We trained guys like Andrew Whitworth for like, guy played

697
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and five Lane Johnson.

698
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: We got him in the second year. He's playing with

699
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: torn torn growing in the Super Bowl. Trent Williams trained Trent.

700
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: But a guy like Trent could go on forever.

701
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: These guys who have that work ethic could play forever

702
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: and ever and ever and ever.

703
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because that that old school work ethic.

704
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: So how have you been able to handle that? I've

705
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: struggled with it, to be honest with you. And it's

706
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: also it's a little different for me because I'm putting.

707
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: My hands on these guys and they're putting their hands

708
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: on me, right, So it's like, hey man, do I

709
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: want to let these guys? You know, I have got

710
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: twelve ruptures in my fucking back Do I want a

711
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: thirteenth for guys you don't want to be fucking great?

712
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 4: Right right?

713
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 5: And that's and that's what I said, goes back to,

714
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 5: you know, having a backyard work ethic, and that's part

715
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: of you know, with social media, and that's the downside

716
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: of it is that you can become famous by Instagram

717
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: and Twitter, and you know, you talk about the old

718
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl Man to go over the across the waters

719
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: and have a chance to play in Hawaii.

720
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: That was tough.

721
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: That was talking about you have to go through when

722
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 5: I played Emmitt Barry, Jerome Bettis, Curtis Martin, Marshall Falk,

723
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: Curtis Martin.

724
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Priest Holmes, yep, right to put.

725
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: In the work just to get there. It was tough.

726
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: But nowadays, you know, we've seen what the Pro Bowl

727
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 5: has mortared down to, and I think personally it's disgusting.

728
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: I can't take watching guys, you know, do stuff in

729
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: the backyard. I want to see you do your craft.

730
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 5: I want to watch you do your thing, you know,

731
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: not catch the ball on the mat. I mean, no,

732
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: that's not it, or play flag football.

733
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: But I get it.

734
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: You know, nowadays, you know, it's tough to find guys

735
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: that are about that life.

736
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: Mahomes is about that life. He's about the work. He

737
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: puts in the work.

738
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, absolutely, you can see.

739
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: Because they put in the time.

740
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 5: They want to be great, they want to be known,

741
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 5: they want to leave a legacy where guys sometimes is

742
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: about the lifestyle that it provides, and and they want

743
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: the women, they want the cars, that want the money.

744
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: And it's fleeting and it flashes before your eye.

745
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 5: But you know, it is tough, and that's why everything

746
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: I do preaches mental and physical and spiritual toughness.

747
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Who is the hardest worker you'd ever been when you.

748
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: Played work wise?

749
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: Beside me, I'll say college wise, Shawn Springs, Sean was

750
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: was awesome to work with. Joey Galloway. My toughest opponent,

751
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 5: without question is ray Lewis, without without a doubt, because ray.

752
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: The people got your head. Did he get in your head? Oh?

753
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 5: I mean, of course, you know the hell you think

754
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: when you play against those teams, it's a different, different preparation.

755
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 5: You have to spiritusly get prepared for what it is

756
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: and and you know understanding that you could get hurt.

757
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: You know, on a garden, you can leave on a

758
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 5: gator during those games, and it was it was more

759
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: of it was definitely the physical, but the mental just

760
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: knowing play the play.

761
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: You might get them one play, but then when.

762
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 5: You think you have one of the rooms, bam, right

763
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: back gets fumble or a big hit or something of

764
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: a momentum changing play that changes the course of the

765
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: entire game. And he hit everybody.

766
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: Believing he had a whole city bleeding in it.

767
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: You know, he changed with Baltimore is now. Ray Lewis

768
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 5: is the big reason for where they are now and

769
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 5: it's continued. So without question, my absolute toughest competitor, but

770
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: so much love and respect for him because we had

771
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 5: our wars. He had definitely had our battles.

772
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: So you bring up Shawn Springs and you bring up college.

773
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: So you know, I grew up in Jersey Shore and

774
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: we didn't have college football back then because Rutgers wouldn't do.

775
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 7: Anything back then, and then moved to New York City

776
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 7: in nineteen eighty nine. So I'd never been to a

777
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 7: college football game in my life. So Eddie George said,

778
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 7: you've never been to a college football game. Well, I'm

779
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 7: taking you to Ohio State.

780
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: That's gonna be.

781
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: But how do I ever go to a game because

782
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: I got to be in five o'clock on Sundays, you know,

783
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: So I don't remember how we pulled this off.

784
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: But number one Ohio State fors number two Michigan. We're

785
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: playing that year, and Eddie George took me to my

786
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 3: first ever college game.

787
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: They're at the Horseshoe, one versus two on the side

788
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: on the side sidelights, and first of all, a very

789
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: grateful who's the head coach at the time, trustle Right.

790
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: And he had you like give an impromptu speech. He

791
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: called me Scoopage. I was like, oh, that's pretty cool.

792
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: But the highlight of that game for me by far.

793
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: I mean, Eddie, this is a this is a this

794
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: is a great moment in my life is Eddie's pass.

795
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: Comes off in the wind and some fucking cop or

796
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: like a fake cop, walks over and says, excuse me up,

797
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: you have to pass, and Eddie's like yeah, whenever it

798
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: starts laughing, and now that this is the day where

799
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: they have all their recruits there, and this guy goes

800
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: to lead Eddie George off the field of wants them

801
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: out of the stadium because he has no fucking credits

802
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: lot and me being a friend, I am I think

803
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: the laws should be upheld the way it should be upheld.

804
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: And I'm like, absolutely, rules are rules, and You're like,

805
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: you gotta be fucking kidding me.

806
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: And finally the police officer sees like this big to

807
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: do on the sideline, a real police officer and walks

808
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: over and says to security.

809
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: Guy, what are you doing?

810
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: He goes this guy doesn't have a pass, and the

811
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: cop looks at him goes, are you fucking kidding me?

812
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: Go away?

813
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: Go away.

814
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: I was like, no, rules are rules. Rules are about

815
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: to be followed.

816
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: You wanted me to kicked out, only want you to

817
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: be kicked out.

818
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: But if anybody sees it to see this happened to me.

819
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: This was going to be everywhere. I was like, no,

820
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: I was going to fight to the death before I look.

821
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: We were like, you will never be another recruit ever

822
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: again it comes to Olo State. If off the side,

823
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: it was unbelievable.

824
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: That was like, I was turning all your your teammates

825
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: over there, you like Butler Binot and Brian.

826
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: Raymond was there.

827
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: I was like, good, Oh, it's fantastic. But Eddie George

828
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: took me to my first ever college game. How about

829
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: that this trivia right there? Trivia question for people? And

830
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: the second one you we're doing it was the Fiesta Bowl, right.

831
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: I was staying again in Florida, and that was my

832
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: second game I ever went to.

833
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: You were doing it at Fox you and uh Jimmy

834
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 3: and m Smith. Right, yeah, I went, I went straight

835
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: ahand over there. That's I've got a pretty good run.

836
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: I was in those some great times. And I remember

837
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: how I stick got their ass kicked that night too.

838
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: That was not a good night.

839
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Florida and Tim Tebow that was all that was

840
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 5: a That was a really good football team. Ironically, Irban

841
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: Meyer that was his first time winning the Dances Championship

842
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: at Florida.

843
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: Come to the House Stations coach two years three years later.

844
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: It was crazy and we got to do this more right,

845
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: This is these are the connections. Look at us, we're

846
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: both lit up, right.

847
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: I was.

848
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of business ship that was mining

849
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: me down. Today you're obviously going through right now with

850
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: a lot of things. But look how much we're smiling.

851
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: That's what we got to connect, got it. We got

852
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: to make sure that we do this on a regular basis. Man,

853
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: once every two weeks.

854
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: At least during your season.

855
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely week, once every two weeks.

856
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: It's a five minute check in. Let's do it once

857
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: a week. Deal man.

858
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: That that that be awesome, man, and the life happened.

859
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: But hey, this is yeah, but can't go away man,

860
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 4: right Man?

861
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I ask you this one

862
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: question that I asked every single one of my guests

863
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: is their last question, give me your unbreakable moment, as in,

864
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: give me the moment in your life that should have

865
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: broken you.

866
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: It could have broken you.

867
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: And didn't, and as a result, you came into the

868
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: other side of that tunnel stronger forever.

869
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. I'll go back to my childhood.

870
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 5: I think now each each experience that you want to

871
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 5: always have, moments is going to try to break you,

872
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: but it sets you up.

873
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: You can become stronger throughout time with it.

874
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 5: The moment that I could have been broken was actually

875
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: at Ohio State my freshman year.

876
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: Came in as an unknown back from fourteen military Academy.

877
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: Jay, you talked about it. They got dues at Ohio State.

878
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 5: All I want to do was find my role on

879
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: the field. By freshman year, well I did. I was

880
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 5: a goal line running back and the first couple of

881
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 5: games I had like two three touchdowns. My biggest game

882
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: came on a night nasty televised game is Game of

883
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Speaker 5: the Week against a ranked team in Syracuse at Syracuse

884
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 5: at the Carrier Dome. They were picked to win the

885
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: national championship that year. In fact, they beat Ohio State

886
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: in the Sitters Bowl the year before that, and Kirk

887
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: Kirksey was our quarterback, so.

888
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: You knew always gonna do was running football. So Robert

889
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: Smith was running the ball, running the rock.

890
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: You know, got the ball down there Raymond Harris and

891
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 5: then he got to the two yard line, to put

892
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: me in there and ship. I scored three touchdowns that night,

893
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 5: and I became touchdown Eddie. I was on cloud nine,

894
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 5: you know house they chant my name.

895
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 4: Eddy, ed Eddie. It was awesome.

896
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: Two weeks later, we play our Big ten game against Illinois.

897
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 5: Back then they were equally our second biggest rival to

898
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: that team.

899
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: Up north, and it was a humbling experience. You know.

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00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 5: We marched the ball with down the field opening drive,

901
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 5: get down the goal line, and I wind up fumbling

902
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: the football.

903
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 4: Uh and he ran back for a touchdown ninety seven yards.

904
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: Was still a Big Ten record to this day.

905
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 5: Ninety seven yard fumble return back in stee does any

906
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: chance turned the booes real quick.

907
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: But I had to make my way back.

908
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: Mind up going back in the fourth quarter for the

909
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 5: game winning touchdown, and there's a tall sweep to the left.

910
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 4: JAB said, get the ball in my hand.

911
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 5: I tucket, see the forced defender come up the field underneath.

912
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 5: I want to make a bee line to the pipeline

913
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: to score the game winning touchdown. The very next step

914
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 5: by take I get hitting the back ball pops up

915
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 5: in the air.

916
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: It was a fumble.

917
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 5: They recovered, game over and the booze and the names

918
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 5: that came reigning from the stands were unreal.

919
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: Eighteen years old, Bro, you.

920
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 3: Know the worst running back to ever come.

921
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 4: Don't you ever play Georgia again? He jumps blah blah blah.

922
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: It was I cried. I remember me and my mother crying.

923
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: I was sitting on the stairs that said, my career

924
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 4: is over here at Oio State.

925
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 5: And I went into a tank. Didn't play that the

926
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: rest of the year. Did played my second year, and

927
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 5: I thought about transferring. And you talk about you know mentally,

928
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 5: you know, getting through some stuff at Ohio State.

929
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: Right and being lost even you're walking around the campus,

930
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: probably think everybody's looking at you talking about you.

931
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were. They worked.

932
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 5: He made hold my coming underneath as I'm walking with

933
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 5: my trade of food, like, don't fume with your food, Addy,

934
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 5: the little of the jokes over two years.

935
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: Wow.

936
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 4: So I could have left, and I thought about leaving,

937
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: but I was like, nah, man, you know.

938
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Speaker 5: What my mom said, listen, turn around and face it.

939
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: Go toward adversity. This could be your greatest moment to

940
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 5: overcome your fumbles here because that demon was going to

941
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: follow me anywhere I went. So Jay, I busted my

942
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 5: ass man.

943
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: I worked hard.

944
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 5: That's where I really really put into work. Took ballet lessons,

945
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: and I traded my game tickets. Didn't have any money.

946
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 5: I said, here, I'll give you game tickets for ballet lessons.

947
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: I borrought it that for balance, for.

948
00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: Balance, for athleticism, for yes, yes, tickets for lessons. Yes,

949
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 5: didn't have any much and some expensive ass pallet lessons.

950
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Speaker 4: It was well, you think about the House States fans,

951
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: they they all they'll do that. But I was very

952
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: creative in that, man, and I was hungry to get someplace.

953
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 5: And I worked, you know, worked out twice a day,

954
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 5: and it was some workouts were really tough and physical

955
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: and immntally taxing, and no one.

956
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 4: Was going to outwork me. Man. I mean that was

957
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: that was, that was my chance, and I finally got

958
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Speaker 4: back in the graces of the coaches, was able to

959
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: have a good junior year, my senior year.

960
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: But it was that moment, that time that I was

961
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 5: not on the field and had to deal with the

962
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 5: noise and deal with the fans and people coming down

963
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 5: on me and battle my way back to winning a

964
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 5: Heisman trophy. That to me was my unbreakable moments. I

965
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 5: was I wasn't going to be broken.

966
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Speaker 2: That's amazing, brother. And you know what, you also said

967
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Speaker 2: something that people don't realize.

968
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Speaker 3: You're eighteen. You're a kid. Yes, you're a kid at

969
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: eighteen and just getting all this kind of hate and

970
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: oh man, it's just so much to go through to you.

971
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: You had to find out who the fuck you were

972
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: and you did by fighting. That's incredible. That's man, that

973
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: story is great. I never knew that, dude.

974
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

975
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Speaker 5: Man, And here and that's the thing where where kids

976
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: you know, when you face adversity, that's your greatest moment.

977
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Speaker 3: That's your gift you got.

978
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta respond that. There's the growth opportunity.

979
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 5: Don't run from it. Don't goose up in the transfer

980
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 5: portal and try to find something else. No turn around,

981
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: face it.

982
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me if what's the biggest gift you've given

983
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: your son. I said, adversity. Yes, yeah, they're they're they're

984
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: acting like car this and that said, no, no, adversity

985
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: best gift you could ever give, by far.

986
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Speaker 3: Let them learn how to run through it. Brother, I

987
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: love you. All right.

988
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: We're gonna start FaceTime on once a week, whether it's

989
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: one minute, or one.

990
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: Hour don Hey got to work, man. I love it. Man.

991
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: You won't love my team.

992
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: Man.

993
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: Man, I'm proud of you.

994
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: Do.

995
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: I love you and thanks for putting up with all

996
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: my jokes.

997
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 4: I love you, man,