1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, what's up? What's up? Idiots? You're listening to 2 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: stradio lab cool. Hey George, I'm sorry. I really just 3 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: try to come in with some sort of um, bizarre 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: energy to maybe snap myself into yeah, and then kind 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: of abandoned it halfway. Yeah. I kind of freak out 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: because I can see your judging eyes and I say, okay, 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm about to get fired from my own odd and 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: that that is always under the surfaces. Will I fire you? 9 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: The power structure here is I'm very much the employee 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: and you are the employer, and you know the money 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: is good. I definitely think that with my immense family wealth, 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: and that's amazing. Like, I'm definitely so grateful to your 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: parents and even you. Yes, but um, Tom and classin 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: to stire. Have you seen Tom Starr's wife. No, she 15 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: a fucking babe. She has a barbed wire tattoo on 16 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: her arm. No wait no, it's not a barbed wire. 17 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: It is a like tribal thing. Wow. So she's like 18 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: totally punk rock. She is punk rock. Well, they have 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: this thing, which is why I like, against all my 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: better judgment, I do kind of I am kind of 21 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: drawn to him, which is they have the like rich 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Bay Area California vibe that I that makes me feel 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: at home because I spent six years in the Bay Area, 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people like that, and 25 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: so that's why I'm voting for him. You know what's 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: crazy is that now that he's dropped out, I'm missing 27 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: him every day. I would say he was, you know, 28 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: because there was no way he was ever going to 29 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: win or anything, so he didn't pose a threat. I 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: think he was overall a positive presence and that he 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: just like clearly is horny for Bernie. I actually he's 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the only candidate that actually brought levity to this time 33 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: and that's kind of a crazy feet. He he gets 34 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Miss Congeniality for the season. Oh my god, A congratulations 35 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: to Miss Congeniality. All the queens are so proud of you, 36 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: and um we love you. Yeah. So, um, when are 37 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: you voting? Can I just say something? Yeah, I can't 38 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: hear anything in my headphones. Yeah I can't either, but 39 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I can't. Now I can. Okay, now we can begin. 40 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Now press play if you're listening, press play. Um, So 41 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: how have you been? Um? How have I been? Really? Good? Good? 42 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: Actually incredible? Um? I started. What sucks is that this 43 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: is all gonna be so irrelevant so soon. But last 44 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: night I watched a lot of Love Is Blind. I 45 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: haven't watched that yet. You know, it's I know, everyone's obsessed. 46 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: It is one of the top ten horny shows I've 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: ever seen. It's like a form of B D s M. 48 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: This show. Like everyone's being like they're not not allowed 49 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: to see or touch, but they're like you have to 50 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: turn each other on with their voices, and then like 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: they finally get to meet up and they're like, well, 52 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: we've never seen each other and we're so turned on. 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: And then they just like have a hotel room for 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: a weekend, and that's kind of where I'm at. I 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: do want to acknowledge as you were saying that and 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: explaining how erotic it was, the lights dimmed along with 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: your voice. This show. The guys on this show are hot, 58 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Because well, and the point because if 59 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: a gay man was like, yeah, I'm meeting up with 60 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: this stranger to like have sex and maybe spend all 61 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: the rest of my life with and be like yep, yeah, 62 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Like who among us hasn't just gone into a door 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: that's been left Ajar and hooked up with the person 64 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: on the other side. Have you not done that? Wait, George, 65 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: have you not done that? Have I not gone into 66 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: a room that had a door left ajar and hooked 67 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: up with someone? And what content? Oh? Like, but I 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: knew I was meeting up with them. It's not a 69 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: random door. Yeah, but you didn't know who they were. No, 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: I've never done it without knowing who they are. Okay, 71 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: suddenly I'm a psychopath. Wait can you explain? How do 72 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: you How do you get to that? How do you like? 73 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: It's like when someone's like, doesn't have a face pick 74 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: on grinder and they're like, but I am in this 75 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: hotel and I'm like, oh yeah, but but you planned 76 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: to meet up with them. Yeah, but a random door 77 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: that's a jar. I'm sure. Okay, So I'm right, okay, 78 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: but you're literally gonna fire me for this, and it's 79 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: just because you're misunderstanding me. Like, it's still I don't 80 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: know them, you know what I mean? And how has 81 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: that been for you? Bad? Scary but kind of rushing 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: and thrilling, you know. Yeah? You know what that reminds 83 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: me of? Did you see that thread that Pete had 84 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: where he was like talking about how one time all 85 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: the lights went off at one of his rallies and 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: then he was like people started to ning on their 87 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: phone lights one by one and I couldn't tell if 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: they were white or black, or Asian or Native or 89 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: straight or gay. And then someone um Marcella Agrayo quote 90 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: tweeted it and was like, glad Pete is finally coming 91 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: clean about his glory whole days. But I just love that. 92 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: I just love Pete so talented. Do you know we 93 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: should talk about our photo shoot? Yeah? So we actually 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: did do a photo shoot this week. How was that 95 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: for you? Okay? So, and actually I'm so glad that 96 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about it now, breaking our silence. Um. I 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: mean the main thing is, so we were trying to 98 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: do a photo shoot outside, but it was the one 99 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: day this entire winter where it was so windy that 100 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: we literally couldn't do anything. So we had like a 101 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: little backdrop that are creative director brought and it kept 102 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: ripping because of the winds, and then we ended up 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: doing it inside and the vibe ended up looking very 104 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: much like Terry richards In. Yeah. I was like white 105 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: wall and then like uh, just us and then flash 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: and I mean, obviously everyone listening will already know what 107 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: it looks like because it will be the bumbnail of 108 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: our podcast. But we had two looks. One was like 109 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: us kind of in scrubs, but make it space, but 110 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: make get gay. Yeah, I make it space. Uh. And 111 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: then at the end it was my idea to also 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: do sexy looks in which you were wearing a meshtop 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: and I was wearing kind of an unzipped puffy white vest. Yes, 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: and we don't know if we're going to release those 115 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: photos anytime soon. Well, those are the after dark photos, 116 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: after dark photos, and what's crazy is they are deeply sexy. 117 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: They're insanely sexy. And also I was like, am I okay, 118 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: Like I went Did you notice that I went into 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: a zone when Mike was taking photos of me where 120 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I did notice that? Yeah? It was 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: weird you m dare I say there was a she 122 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: wolf in your closet? It was insane. You really let 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: her out? I really did. It was crazy easy to 124 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: see you in that context because I know you as 125 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: this sort of nose in the books intellectual professor at 126 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Harvard University. I had my dick out and you were 127 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: like you were giving like full porn face, like hungry 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: for cock. After I left, I was like, I mean, 129 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: it goes to show you how good of a I mean, 130 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: how comfortable I felt with with Mike. Though you're gonna 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: say it just goes to show how like good of 132 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: a performer. No, no no, because I'm normally not like that 133 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: at all. In fact, I remember one time when Sandy 134 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: Hanig shoutout, was taking my head shots. Wait the pronunciation 135 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: of that is it honig? Yeah? Did I say hannig? 136 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: You definitely said HONIGNI The official narrative is that I 137 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: said honig, you said honig. And she's gonna find out 138 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: and she's gonna be and I'm so sorry. Please watch 139 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: three Busy Debra's premiering suit on Adult. Is it actually 140 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Marks pay nine? Yeah? That's insane? Oh my god. Uh So, 141 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: when Sandy was taking my head shots at this point, 142 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, three years ago, I distinctly remember her being 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: like me doing such a bad job that she was like, Okay, 144 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: who do you know that's good at taking photos? And 145 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: I remember like earlier that day it had been I'd 146 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: been with them, one of our friends, and uh and 147 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: she was like and I said his name, and she 148 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: was like, okay, try to channel him, docs him. What 149 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: was his name? It was Matt Rodgers. There you go. Um, 150 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, I really did. I don't know if I 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: will ever show those photos, and some of those photos 152 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: of me, I'm you know, I did recently send one 153 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: to a lover. One of those. Well then you're not 154 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: that ashamed. Yeah, you're getting your money's worth hunting. My 155 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: favorite thing about them does because we I mean a 156 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain Feller listeners. We bought a bunch 157 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: of clothes for the shoot that we then plan on returning, 158 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: just to have a lot of options, and so in 159 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: the photos you can fully see a unic low tag 160 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: on the white pants that I'm wearing. That will then 161 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: be like photo shopped out, but it does add an 162 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: extra kind of layer of d I y realness to it. Yeah, 163 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: that's really tasteful in a way. Yeah, I just burped 164 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: into the microphone, WoT that? But you also not to 165 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, go back and forth complimenting one another. But 166 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: I felt like your mesh top looks were extremely hot. 167 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I felt like they made me look very hot, and 168 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: you looked like I looked like beefy kind. Yeah it 169 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: was cool. Yeah it was, but we did fail the 170 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: can two gays do a photo shoot without a mesh 171 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: top challenge? We did fail it. And then at the end, 172 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: I was like, as much as I was so into 173 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: it while it was happening, at the end, I was like, wait, 174 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to be like I don't want either 175 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: of us to be those people that think comedy is 176 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: posting a photo of your ass. I know, but I've 177 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: already been there and it was kind of fun, I know, 178 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: and honestly, people like it and I like it. Yeah, 179 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: And I thought we were funny enough in our There 180 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: were enough kookie things that were happening that I don't 181 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: feel like it was purely just us doing a model 182 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: photo shoot. And there were plenty of props to imply, hey, 183 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: we're this is a bit. I was wearing a golden 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: ring on top of blue medical gloves. You'll see you 185 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: all see, you'll see, you'll see, you'll see, oh my god. 186 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: And also you can kind of see the body dysmorph 187 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: your radiant from me, and I think that adds to that, 188 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: adds to not feeling self indulgence. No, no, no, you 189 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: in that vest not not to just like tell each 190 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: other that were you in that vest with all that 191 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: hair popping through? Baby? I was like okay, and I 192 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: am like at the very tail end of my hair, 193 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: like because I, as as many of my fans know, 194 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: once a month, I triped my entire body with a 195 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: number three. Wow. And this is at the tail end 196 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: of that. Like I'm I would say trimming days maybe 197 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: like tomorrow wow. So it is like the hairriest anyone 198 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: will ever see me. I mean, I was really grateful, 199 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: and I think are fans and listen will be really 200 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: grateful too. And we've talked about how you you are 201 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: jealous of my body hair and I am jealous if 202 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: you were not here. Yeah, we definitely only there was 203 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: a way to kind of shape up all my hair 204 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: and then glue it onto you. We definitely need a 205 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: witch to Friday because I think if I had a 206 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: lot of hair all over my body, I would be happier. Yeah, 207 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: it just it would be so hot. I do think 208 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: you'd be happier. Okay, here's what makes me mad. Why 209 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: can't we just pick are Like, why can't we wake 210 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: up and like pick the body type we want for 211 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: the day, Like that makes me so mad. Literally, just 212 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: hearing you say that made me so relaxed, just that possibility. 213 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Um wait, should we like actually start the pod? Yeah? Okay, listeners, 214 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: please press a now, press play now because you're gonna 215 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: want to hear what's about to happen, because we're about 216 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: to introduce our guest for And the thing with this 217 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: guess is that he already there's some mythology attached to 218 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: him on this podcast. He is a recurring character in 219 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: a way, sort of the New York City to our 220 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: sex and you might recognize him from our segment Name 221 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: one person you hate, and the answer has to be 222 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: Charlie Barney, created by past guests and very toxic individual Celestia. 223 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: The show, I really was like, this is going to 224 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: be a beacon of hope, that it was maybe our 225 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: darkest podcast, darkest and realist. I was like, I actually 226 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: I am like very good friends with Charlie, and yet 227 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: celest really brought out I mean I really dragged him 228 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: through the mud and that it was a true hit 229 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: job and now he's here to defend himself. So and 230 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: in fact, we considered sending him this the last episode 231 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: and then decided not to yeah, yeah. I actually do 232 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: need to listen to it to make sure it's not mean. No, 233 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: it's not me. It's just like, wait, can I say that? 234 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I got this like from like multiple people, like like 235 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Celeste only and you guys were like, oh ha ha, 236 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: we just recorded an episode like all about you. And 237 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: I was like, ha ha ha, Well it's what was 238 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: like the vibe? And it took me a long time 239 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: to get a straight answer, and I honestly never did. 240 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: I like, ha ha, everybody hates Charlie. And I was like, well, 241 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: that's a joke, right, So I can tell you exactly 242 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: what it is because I just really listened to it. 243 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: I first bring you up because we were talking about 244 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: SNL and you had recently texted me that something along 245 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: the lines of every other week, It's my Morning Jacket 246 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: and Eli Manning and I just thought that was like 247 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: a very funny pairing of possible SNL. So I said, uh, 248 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: that you texted me that, and then Celeste was like, oh, 249 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: it's so funny that you bring up Charlie because I 250 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: was just with him and I said, I'm going to 251 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: a podcast recording. He said, he's also going to podcast recording, 252 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: and I said, are you going to Georgi and Sam's 253 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: And he was like no, And so then the bit 254 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: became that we like intentionally didn't ask you, and that's 255 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: why it became mean, it's get It was like, play 256 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: me right, but then it was like but then Celesque 257 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: kept upping the antie to the point where there was 258 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: a second called name who I was sort of playing 259 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: into the thing as well of being like, oh, I'm 260 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: hurt by this, but then also in a way where 261 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it was clear to you, guys, I 262 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: thought you were hurt, right exactly, And I don't think 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: I knew whether or not I was hurt, but I 264 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: was just sort of following that and seeing me And 265 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: as you know, I've experienced that before when I very 266 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: famously tweeted sub tweeted someone in a way that I 267 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: thought was loving and and fine, and then I um 268 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: told him about it and he was like, oh, okay, 269 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: but now we're in a good place. Yeah, and that's okay, 270 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: And sometimes you have to power through the conflict. I'll 271 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: also say that I forgot the rules sorry of podcasts, 272 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember if I was supposed to be 273 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: talking all throughout the beginning. No, you're not supposed to. 274 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be an illusion, like I'm not here 275 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: and I'm being brought in. Yeah, Like the listeners really 276 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: like to imagine like a curtain being drawn and it's like, yeah, yeah, 277 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: sort of a but I was laughing. Was that? Okay? 278 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: That's okay. I mean the whole thing and we've said 279 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: this before, but the whole thing with this podcast is 280 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: that there are various layers to it. One is what's happening, 281 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: and the other is us narrating what's happening. Yeah, sort 282 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: of sort of, um, you know, I feel free to 283 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: take a pause and say, am I being good at 284 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: this right now? Like? What is this podcast about? And 285 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: one of the many ways in which it's very similar 286 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: to the Taylor Swift documentary Miss Americana, which I have 287 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: not seen. I haven't either, but you know what, I 288 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: get it. I feel like I get it, And can 289 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I actually just like reflect on like what I did, 290 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: like sort of intuitive intuiting that that was the tone 291 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: and doing that directly by being like I didn't know 292 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: if I was supposed to do this. Oh I knew exactly. 293 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I knew that was really that makes me feel really 294 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: strong about where this could go, Like it feels like 295 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: a really good sense of like the tone in nature 296 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: and I think base, yeah you're bringing is so similar 297 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: to Taylor Swift's in Miss America. Thank you? I get that. 298 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: It's like all the time, did you listen to Sam 299 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: and I are very important thing about us is that 300 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: we're with fans of the Slate Culture gap Fest. Did 301 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: you listen to that? It was in the materials you 302 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: guys provided, so that scanned. What inspired us to start 303 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: this podcast is we were like, we we want to 304 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: be more like Dana Stevens and Stephen Medcalf of the 305 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: Slate Culture Gap that you think, I do you think 306 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: we'll ever get to be guests on it? I have 307 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: thought about this the road to Slate's Culture Gapest. They 308 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: don't talk about comedy stuff and they did once and 309 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: it made me mad. Was it like Nanette they talked 310 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: about Uh? Well, I remember when they did a segment 311 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: on Billy on the Street and they like fully didn't 312 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: get it, Like in a way that was like, WHOA, 313 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: I actually need to take a step back from this 314 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: podcast and not trust everything that they say. Well, it 315 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: was like that's a hard moment. Well, now we'll never 316 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: get on the podcast. I was dragging them on air. 317 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: We can cut that out. I just don't know if 318 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: if you want that. Charlie is not the producer. I'm like, hey, guys, 319 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: can we try that again? And just you are a 320 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: little far away and you don't say that negative stuff. 321 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm your producer and manager, like Dana or whatever, Mr 322 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: Metcalf whatever. You know, their last names unbelievable. I knew 323 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: the first name of one of the last name of 324 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: the others. I put it together. The reason I brought 325 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: it up is because they recently talked about Miss Americana. 326 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: So the only is that they played a clip where, 327 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: truly they played a clip that was like Taylor Swift 328 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: deciding that she was going to endorse some kind of 329 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: Democratic candidate for like Tennessee office, I want to say, 330 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: and it's like her describing how this other woman who's bad, 331 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: who's like a Republican, is like homophobic and sexist and 332 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and she just very slowly starts tearing 333 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: up as she's saying, like, I mean, this woman thinks 334 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: gay people like shouldn't be allowed in public. And then 335 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, but Taylor. I mean the big 336 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: thing is like your safety, Like if you endorse someone 337 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: like that would be really huge for you. And she's like, 338 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: but but if I don't do this now, then when 339 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: will I finally speak up? And then the and then 340 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: what am I doing something to do? I mean we're 341 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: both crying just your reenactment, like you holding back to 342 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: yours as an actor in that moment, just like I'm 343 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: just saying, that's the kind of um fake authenticity that 344 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: I think we should bring this. Do you know what 345 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: that reminds me? That reminds me of the thing of 346 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: like you don't know, you don't know what someone's going through, 347 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: that idea of like that girl you just called she 348 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: takes care of her sisters. Yeah, it's like that girl 349 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: you just called a political and opportunistic she cried because 350 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: someone said that gay people shouldn't be in public in 351 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: that moment, pushing back against that narrative, And she really 352 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: has that energy. Do you know what I actually thought 353 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: about that a lot. Was a couple of years ago 354 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: and I was apartment hunting and like just so frustrated 355 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: because I kept taking the train like two hours to 356 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: go see some like awful apartment in prospect, Lefford's gardens 357 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: or something. I've kept being like accidentally rude to people 358 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: or just like visibly sad, and then I thought like, wow, 359 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: you never know who might be apartment hunting like that, 360 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: not like grief for loss or like I was like, imagine, 361 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: it's just like the arduous process of going from apartment 362 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: to apartment and just someone being like, yeah, the toilets 363 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: on the bed, and you're like, in prospect, is there 364 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: anything more sad? So Charlie, what's up? So Charlie, you're 365 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: here now and you weren't before. Wow, let's take a moment. 366 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm prosing. I think something interesting about Charlie is that 367 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: he often is or isn't inside spaces. Well, there's two 368 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: types of people in this world, people that Charlie is 369 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: with and people that Charlie is not with. Yes, And 370 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: there are two kinds of locations, locations in which Charlie 371 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: exists and locations in which currently is not in. I 372 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: want to throw out the world like they're in. It 373 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: feels like I could maybe be useful in this, and 374 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't mention it. Henceforth, I'm trying to because I 375 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: feel like most of the people I'm engaging with are 376 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: like people who are in like the former category of 377 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: like people who are with me. Like that's a huge 378 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: bias on my part, Like I only hang out with 379 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: people who are with me in that moment. I actually 380 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: really don't think about that much, right, Like that's so 381 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: crazy that you'll never understand people that aren't currently with you, right, 382 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: Like you all the time about people who aren't with me, 383 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: and sometimes you're hanging out with people who are with 384 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: me when you're with me, But I'm only ever hanging 385 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: out with people who are with me. Yeah. For you 386 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: to like experience that, you'll have to do it through 387 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: like books and movies. Yeah, which I got to get into. 388 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: I mean it's and you specifically would love them, I know. 389 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: And people keep saying like try books, try movies, and 390 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I like, I will, I will, I will. 391 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, you need like a push 392 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: to do that, such a commitment sometimes to just get 393 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: into like narratives as we can. I say, I was, Okay, 394 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop a lot of information, so just like, 395 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: don't freak out my notebook, Okay, I was canvassing this weekend. 396 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: Relax and there was a moment where like I this 397 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: was like at the end of the day. It was 398 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: truly seven pm somehow pitch whack and we were in 399 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: this apartment building and we like knocked on the door 400 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: and like this woman opened was like what the funk 401 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: are you doing here? But like you know, she didn't curse, 402 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: but she had that energy and we were like, hi, 403 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Cannie said. She was like you gotta go, and then 404 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: like close the door and was on face time by 405 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: someone and we were like on the other side of 406 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: the door. She was like they were canvas and Bernie 407 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: Sanders so scary. I mean, they should not be doing 408 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: that so late. And that felt like a moment of 409 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: sort of bridging that, do you know what I mean? 410 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: Like I was with her, but like she was acting 411 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: like it was sort of like breaking the binary. Can 412 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: I tell you when you were telling that story, I 413 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: was like, Charlie is off the rails. No no, no, 414 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: And then you're un brought it home. Yeah, the listeners 415 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: are applauding you right now. Yeah, we're getting the feed 416 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: and they're applauding and they're like, where is he going this? Okay, 417 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: this is what I'm about to say is going to 418 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: blow your minds. The ultimate being with someone while not 419 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: being with them listening to a podcast so true. I 420 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: was like one of the smartest things you've ever I'm 421 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: actually writing a pilot based on it. Is like I 422 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: love to like watch bloopers, like alone, like you know, 423 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: like watch like Friends bloopers or like The Office like shows. 424 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't really watch that much, but I will watch 425 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: the bloopers and it's literally like I will catch myself 426 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: like smiling at like their little like on sets as 427 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: if I'm there. I have to be like, these are 428 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: not actually my friends, but it feels like it. The 429 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: Friends Bloopers I have unfortunately watched all of them, Oh 430 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: my god, of course, and they are good. They're so good. 431 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: It's like the best show in the world because you're 432 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: just like hanging out with your friends. Friends Bloopers is 433 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: the best show in the world. I don't watch that 434 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: much of Friends, but Friends Bloopers is amazing. Okay, it's 435 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: so fun. Charlie. I'm so sorry to put you on 436 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: the spot, but you have a habit that I find 437 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: to be absolutely insane, you know what I mean. Drag 438 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: him watches YouTube clips of sitcoms that are like two 439 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: minutes long, and then he will just like let them 440 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: out of place. So he's essentially watching like two minute 441 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: clips of like New Girl without watching I like don't 442 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: watch full episodes of TV. I only watched in clips 443 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: because I can't focus on a full narrative and often 444 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: the clips are like the best part. Yeah that's crazy. 445 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: So I like, like there's a few TV shows I've 446 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: actually watched, but I watched a lot of TV and 447 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: it'll be like random shows and I'm like not that 448 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: interested in ultimately, like trying to think of example, like 449 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: New Girl, like you don't really watch it, Like I 450 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: watched a bunch of the good Place, which is like whatever, 451 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: like like clips, I actually shouldn't have even gone there, 452 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: Like that was a mistake, like honestly, Frasier like Seinfeld 453 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: like and all of those only clips, only clips, and 454 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: they know the overall series arcs because as it's like 455 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I have to piece it together because I'm like, okay, 456 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: so you're not with this person anymore. You are with them. 457 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: It's like okay, you got married eventually, But it hops 458 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: around so much because I can't focus on a full thing, 459 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: So do you so stupid? So's so sad. Yeah, maybe 460 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: you should get into books and movies. Yeah, you actually 461 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: need it. It started as a joke. It started Charlie's 462 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: tearing him like you're gonna come here to be like evaluating, 463 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: like we need celess back in here. We have to 464 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: go off like outside waiting like whenever you need me 465 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: to make him cry? Oh my god, um yeah no, 466 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: I really don't do that. I watched mostly clips really like, 467 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: oh my god, the status is. I watch like a 468 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: ton of clips of Family Guy, Like I don't watch 469 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: the compilation clips or it's like Family Guy like gay 470 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: joke compilations, and I'll just like sit and that's like 471 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: I can focus on a twelve minute clip if it's 472 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: like like joke converlation and don't just sit back and 473 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: watch it. Wait, is this a compilation of someone trying 474 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: to like cancel Family Guy by being like this is 475 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: all the homophobics stuff they've said, No, just like collecting. 476 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: It's like special interest, like, oh, if you want to 477 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: watch the gage joakes, here they are. Here's all of them. 478 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: There's the people's consumption habits are so especially when it 479 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: comes to YouTube, are so crazy. It's so I was 480 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: in this very studio when Mike and Brucie told me 481 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: that he watches videos of just like um bodybuilders explaining 482 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: their diet, just like eating a lot of food and 483 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: bulking up for fun, not gonna Because I was like, 484 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: do you do that because you want to get inspired 485 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: because you're trying to bulk up. He's like, no, I 486 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: just enjoy like watching someone at the top of their 487 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: game just eat like five steaks. I watch a lot 488 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: of like medical examination videos on YouTube to relax. What 489 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: what what are they examining? I don't I don't know. 490 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: It's like usually like a demonstration. It's like, oh, if 491 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: you are like doing this kind kind of like exam, 492 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: like you're doing a like cranial nerve exam, they'll like 493 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: film them doing it and it's like ten minutes long 494 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: and it's them well like touch your it's like a 495 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: smr J. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my sister is in medical school, 496 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: so she hasn't excuse But you watches things like that 497 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: all the time. But it's really just soothing to watch 498 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: someone who knows what they're doing. And it's like touch 499 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: your finger to mind, Touch your finger to mind, touch 500 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: your finger to mind. Did you watch I love it. 501 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: This is I'm in shock and like, have not watched 502 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: like a TV show in like years. It hasn't. It 503 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: just hasn't come up, Like I have not watched a 504 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: full thirty minute thing, and like is that true? Are 505 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: you exaggerating? No, I'm exaggerating. I just alone, I haven't 506 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: I can only watch it with other people. I just 507 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: want to say, if you're going to be on this podcast, 508 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: you should be honest about your media concerntion happening. Because 509 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: so many people come on here and they lie and 510 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: we find and you know, and that's really really bad 511 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: for them because we can't everything I've said so far 512 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: to kind of lie about, to kind of exaggerate your 513 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: experience like that, to like make yourself seem, you know, 514 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: so weird and interesting. It's like, it's just honest, and 515 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: I'm so like honestly disgusting. Can I say that, like 516 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: the stuff I wasn't campicing this weekend, that was a lie. 517 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: I've never watched. I don't go on YouTube at all. 518 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: You're voting, I'm voting for Michael Bloomberg and support I'm 519 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm being paid by him. Well, we all are. It's 520 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: a matter of how you choose to spend their money 521 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: the ethical like it's not a matter of whether you 522 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: choose to accept Michael Bloomberg's Money's like no, everyone everyone, Yeah, 523 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: it's just like some people use it to help the 524 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: homeless and people use it to actually campaign for him. 525 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: It is. I do feel I'm small in the fact 526 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: that No Weird Campaign has reached out and said feel 527 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: free to shoot out a tweet about us, Like it's 528 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: really unfair. It's like I worked really hard at this. 529 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: It would be so good at that, and so would 530 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: you can. I mean, I had to make a really 531 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: hard tweet ethical decision because Jerry asked me if they could, 532 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: like post my tweet, going to pay you. I said no, yeah, 533 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: they're gonna pay me fifty dollars, which is like nothing. 534 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: And also it was like although like other places asked 535 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: all the time or just like do it, like and 536 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: we'll post your tweet, and it's like okay, like hi, 537 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: like I'm Charlie by the way, like they don't even care, 538 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: so at least they asked them responded to like the critique, 539 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: but I was still like, no, I'm not going to 540 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: do that because also they like post a ton of 541 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: Bloomberg ads, well, that's the thing that you don't know 542 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: what they're going to use it for. They might literally 543 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: use it for. It's like that feel when you hood 544 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: for Michael Bloomberg, right exactly like that, and it's just 545 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: a photo of your face right and like smiling. I 546 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: love it, right exactly. They just like fully edit my tweet, 547 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: they like make like it like I love Michael Bloomberg. 548 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie. I'm like, this is the one I want. 549 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: It sucks, but it's worth it. Yeah, I have a 550 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: crazy idea. Should we like go into our let's do? 551 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: Should we start the podcast? Okay, press plane now, um, Charlie, 552 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna start off with UM a segment that we 553 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: like's called straight Shooters, And what a segment is is 554 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: um a series of rapid fire questions that just answer 555 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: and like, don't oversee series of rapid fire questions that 556 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: just answer. Like if you don't just answer them, if 557 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: you say, like, wait, what am I supposed to answer? Like, 558 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: I'll get I'll storm out of the studio. You gotta. 559 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Sam has hit people before, and I look, I'm really 560 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: good at like just like giving my honest feedback. Well, 561 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: well wait, hold on. We should say that the point 562 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: of the segment is to gauge our listeners, our guests 563 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: rather familiarity with the multifaceted quilt of straight culture. But 564 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: that's more of a jumping off point, as is kind 565 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: of any idea we've ever had about this part, sort 566 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: of like is it um cohesive at all? And the 567 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: answer is the thing is and we've talked about this before. 568 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Often people will kind of establish something in order to 569 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: subvert it, but we go right to the subversion. Yeah, 570 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and we're kind of like dividing by zero, you think 571 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: it's possible, but actually I've done it. Yeah, it's actually 572 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: really easy. People tell you can't, but just try it 573 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: and it works. Yeah, literally literally just do it. Wait. 574 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Like also with dividing way zero, it's just like it's zero, 575 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: like just relaxing, Yeah, what zero, Like, don't overthink it, 576 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: Like why are we mad? Right, It's like, oh, it's 577 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: underfine zero? What else would it be? Are you insane? Right? 578 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: It's like no, it can't go into it at zero times. 579 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: It's like it's fine, right, it's fine, Like everyone do 580 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: stop yelling, Like does anybody want to get food? It's fine, 581 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Like can you don't need to like get so upset. 582 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: We're done with this. I'm hungry. You know, the discourse 583 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: around that dividing by zero is toxic completely not like 584 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: I would say. This podcast. This podcast is kind of 585 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: like taking the idea of dividing by zero and then 586 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: making it into UM, an audio storytelling format. I mean, 587 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: the narrative. Critics, audiences agreed, it's a podcast. Yeah, that's true. 588 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: Zero So this so this second it all right? Nope, Nope. 589 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: So this segment is UM. It's a series of rapi 590 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: fire questions and we're gonna start now. Are you ready? 591 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: Smoothies or juices? Smoothies? I love my daughters or I 592 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: love my son's, I love my daughter's gap or old Navy, 593 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: Old Navy tomato or tomato tomato. Toxic organized religion or 594 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: toxic militant atheism, Uh, toxic militant atheism. Control al delete 595 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: or command al delete control alt carry Miranda Samantha Charlotte 596 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: or Mario Cantone, Um carry Miranda Samantha Charlotte. That's actually 597 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: a perfect answer. UM Surge protector or extension cord extension 598 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: cord root beer or Dr Pepper, Dr Pepper high reps 599 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: lightweight or low reps highwight, low reps high weight, soup 600 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: or a vegetable stir fry, vegetable stir fry, team Coco, Yeah, great, 601 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: gorilla and now sign language. It is very impressive. So 602 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: what do we think in terms of his ratings? I 603 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: would say, um, actually like three three point zero yeah, yeah, 604 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: three point zero perfect really And and just to clarify 605 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: for you, our listeners are this already. It is not 606 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: on a linear scale. It shouldn't be good good, good good. 607 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: It's good because I can I say I got professionally 608 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: evaluated earlier by what in general? And I got a 609 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: three point zero really same exactly. You know, I haven't 610 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: been professionally evaluated in so long. It's one of those 611 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: things you have to do twice a year. You call 612 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: up the professional, then the notary public, notary public. It's 613 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: actually at a notary You're right. It's important though, because 614 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: if you don't get professionally evaluated, you kind of forget 615 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: where you are in the ranking system of the world. 616 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: I really like to know who's above me and who's 617 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: me and they don't tell you unless you pay for premium. Yeah, 618 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: because they'll like tell you the general vicinity, but they 619 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: won't tell you like exactly who's above you and like 620 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: who's a better person, And even the vicinity is not 621 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: in a linear scale. So you know, it's one of 622 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: those things. Unfortunately, it's worth it. Like just for the analytics, 623 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: they do a really good job. They do a really 624 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: good job breaking it down. You know what's important analytics, 625 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: analytics in general. I don't even get me started. It's 626 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: one of those for me, like with analytics, like don't 627 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: get me started. For you, it's all about I think 628 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: data science is a huge thing. Data I love like 629 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: being like just like diving into the numbers. Yeah, yeah, 630 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: because they can really tell you a lot. Numbers can 631 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: tell you a story. Numbers can be narrative, which is 632 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: really cool. Totally. I think we nailed it. Um. So 633 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: what's crazy is like we have a topic that's actually 634 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: so fucking insane, which is crazy because it's like do 635 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: we still do this, Like do we really have a topic? 636 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean one of our many disagreements and I mean 637 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: we are mad at each other, I would say the time, 638 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: and that is that. I think it's so cool. It's 639 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: like a lot of podcasts hosts are like we are 640 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: best friends, right, and where we never said that, you 641 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: never said we are co workers. We were chosen to 642 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: be on this podcast through kind of making the band 643 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: type show that never aired and never will where they 644 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: took various gay comedians based in Brooklyn that didn't already 645 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: have podcasts. It was there's four or five exactly four 646 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: or five, and I'm one of them, and Charlie was 647 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: one of them. Really, I mean, you got eliminated because 648 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: you kept talking about data science and people could not 649 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: relate to that. I said, it's a math podcast. Actually, 650 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: it's my idea, my big math podcast, and everybody was like, Okay, 651 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: when are you going to be like bitchy and gay 652 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: and until it was literally just kind of like three four, 653 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: just like naming numbers. It was a lot of like 654 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: six four, that's four, do you know what I mean? 655 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: That's a lot of my work is around that. That 656 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: is actually true that a lot of your work work. 657 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: I did actually go viral for like a tweet about division. 658 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: I saw that in that way, really, and I mean, 659 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: that's with all my love. That's so funny to me. 660 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I have never been happier with like 661 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: my tweet doing well. It was about how if you 662 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: divide seventy five by two, it's thirty seven point five 663 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: and how that's like, Yeah, that was a funny tweet. 664 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: You know. I was like, I was like, but so 665 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: that so you in fact pitched a podcast around that tweet. Yeah, 666 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: and all of the judges from UM, you know, Luminary Forever. 667 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: Mr Audible himself. Mr Audible is a huge homophobe. This 668 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: whole contest was sort of like a way for him 669 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: to put stress in our lives. Yeah. Yeah. And and 670 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: if you were eliminated, uh, you know you were physically hurt. Yeah. 671 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: There there were physical stakes and which was barbaric, but 672 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: it really did um inspire a lot of us to 673 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: work hard. Yeah. And you know what I'll say, Paula 674 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: Abdul loved me but had nothing to offer, do you 675 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like she was where she was like, 676 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't know a podcasting network. I just like I 677 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: loved the idea. And she was not technically employed by 678 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: the television show. She just kept showing up. Yeah, and 679 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: a lot of like sort of remote tweeting it. It 680 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: was I would say it was a little sad, to 681 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: be honest, It was sad, but she you know, she's 682 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: an icon on a respector. I'm trying so hard to 683 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: make some kind of joke about when you said the 684 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: word barbaric, tying it back to Michael Barbaro because it 685 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: would be irrelevant for the podcasting theme, but I unfortunately 686 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: can't think of anything. We have. We have a podcast 687 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: that is a podcast themed. Yeah, well that is true, that, 688 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately is true. So we're talking. We were talking about 689 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: how we were put together to host this podcast, through that, 690 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: through that making the band type show which was called 691 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: pod Life, pod Life spelled l y f E for 692 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,479 Speaker 1: no reason, for no reason, it didn't make any sense, 693 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: It didn't make any sense. It was developed on spec 694 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: purely on Spec uh, and then never sold to any network. 695 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: But then we did get the podcasting deal. Yeah, and 696 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: we actually do have to make one thousand episodes by 697 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: contract or. I was like, we have to pay them 698 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: up the production fees. Yeah, so we have a long 699 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: way to go, but we're so excited. We're so excited. Charlie. 700 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: By the way, I think, yeah, sorry, can I say 701 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: something really quick? Just thank you? Wow? Wow. Sometimes it's 702 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: as simple as that. That is so fucking true. So 703 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: many people in this nation don't just say hey, thank you. 704 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: It's like such a it's so elegant, you know what 705 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, No comment, no comment. And that's over. But 706 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: our topic today, Charlie, do you want to introduce it? Yeah? Well, 707 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: you know, we're sort of tossing ideas around and I 708 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: think what we landed on was the weight room at 709 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: the gym, sort of part of straight culture and just 710 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: to kind of again pick behind the curtain. Our other 711 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: options were driving, just the idea and concept and experience 712 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: of driving a car, the car. The other one was fraternitys. Fraternitys. 713 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: I also I came up with another one, but we 714 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: won't do it late. Um, not crossing your legs when 715 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: you sit, you know what I mean, sort of like 716 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: straightforward not like crossing your legs. That was another one, 717 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: but I don't think we have time to like into 718 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: there's no that's really good. That topic could be in 719 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: a whole podcast. I mean, there's a whole podcast about that, 720 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: but not crossing your legs, and we don't have time. 721 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: And the runners up are actually of our show, are 722 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: are doing that podcast and it's actually doing really well. 723 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: But I guess we'll have literally like the first eliminated 724 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: person from this show talk about numbers literally like like 725 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: it's called crossed. I know it is called crossed. You 726 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: know it's called crossed x uncrossed. That that's mine. That's mine. 727 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: That's mine. I said that, that's mine. Okay, okay, So Charlie, 728 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: the thing with the gym and with the wait room 729 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: at the gym is that as we sit here on 730 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: this table, we have three very different experiences when it 731 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: comes to working out. Sam, I love the gym. I've 732 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: been going for roughly two to three years. Oh yeah, so, 733 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know my track. I recently 734 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: joined the gym and now it is my thing. I 735 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: wrote that two years ago. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well 736 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: good for you. That checks out. And then I never 737 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: work out and it actually something that causes me a 738 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: lot of anxiety, and I would like to start at 739 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: some point. And then Charlie, yeah, so my i I've 740 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: like worked out sort of on and off for the 741 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: past few years, but really started like kind of doing 742 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: it seriously, like not to be like this for like 743 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: New Year's like right around the beginning of this year. 744 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: I know, it's like so and actually it wasn't even 745 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: like a New Years thing. It was like me being 746 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: romantically rejected thing and like really sort of spiraling about 747 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: my He was like, come back when your body is 748 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: good basically, I mean, but it's like sort of like me, 749 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: like do you know when someone doesn't say that, but 750 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: then you're like, well, I'm going to interpret it as 751 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: that you need to go ahead and take the liberty 752 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: of interpreting it. There's like that's for me every time 753 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: anyone says anything about me, but it's about my body. Okay, 754 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: so my body is not good enough. I'm not I don'tenough, 755 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: I've got it less to say. It's that it's guacamole 756 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: is extra. They're like, okay, stop. So I will say 757 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: that there's a lot about the gym, and I'm talking 758 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: about the weight room specifically that feels like very gay. 759 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: Cardio is cardios out. Gay weights are sort of closeted gay. Yeah, 760 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because that's really like I'm like trying 761 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: to do the weightroom thing right, like you're not doing cardio, 762 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: and it's interesting, like you know, there are sometimes gay 763 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: people there, but a lot of the time it's like 764 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: three men all together and they're like doing the whole 765 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: like lifting something so heavy and like lunting really loud, 766 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: and then like totally dropping a gigantic weight and when 767 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: they drop it, when they it's when they when they 768 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: drop it, it's when they drop it. What when they 769 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: drop it? They are dropping it is so loud, It 770 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: is so loud, and it's like I could do that. 771 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: I could never. I could not do that because you 772 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: have to set it down if you're gay. Yeah, because 773 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: if you're straight, you can basically toss it any which way. 774 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: And it's just like, oh, I guess you know what 775 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: you're doing. Like you see people in that room do 776 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: the fucking craziest ship that looks like they don't know 777 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: what they're doing and they're going to hurt themselves. And 778 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: you have to say, I trust you because you're straight. 779 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: Because you're straight, you get they get such a latitude 780 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: of like you know what they can do. Literally, Jim 781 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: Attendance will come up to me and say, you don't 782 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: know what you're doing because you're gay, And meanwhile they're 783 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: doing flips with the damn kettlebell. Right, they're basically just 784 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: saying how high can I throw it? You know what 785 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean? Or like seeing how far it can go, 786 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you know what I mean, like right, 787 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: and it always works too, Like they look incredible and 788 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: they look so good, and I'm like, how God knows 789 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: if I tried to throw that thing up in the air, 790 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: someone would get hurt, you know what I mean. I 791 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: can't just do that. Such a double standard, right, So 792 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: much of being gay is setting things down, that is 793 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: so true, and then so much of being straight is 794 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: hurling things. Right, That's the main difference. I would say, Yeah, 795 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: it's a huge difference, and it's totally manifest dead in 796 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: the weight room. Yeah, that's where it starts. That's where 797 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: it starts. And there's a whole thing where it's like, 798 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, I like inched my way into the weight 799 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: room and like you know, have been scared and like 800 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: sort of scurried off from time to time of course 801 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: because it's too overwhelming and I know my like three 802 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: little things that I can do in there. But there's 803 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: still a whole corner of the room where it's like 804 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: machines like you've never seen. It's like people are doing 805 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: cirque do so late things with like massive you know, 806 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: and it's very industrial. It's very like you know you're 807 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: in the factory. Basically, it's very Um what was that? 808 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: M I a album that people didn't like? Maya? Was 809 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: that the one that had like drill noises? Did you 810 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: say that people didn't like? Yeah? People hated it. Remember 811 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: it was a huge hit. No, but people absolutely tor 812 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: it to shreds. I don't know what it was like, 813 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: I think in Greece not, Well, we don't have to 814 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: talk about this. Is that? Is that not the album 815 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: that had like oh that want to do is? But 816 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: why was that? Maya? What's the one where it's Bicky Leaks? No, No, 817 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 1: the one before vickor like keeping like it's it's literally 818 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: he just drops it on his own because it's not girls, 819 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: that's Vicky Leaks. It's the one with like, um tequila. Oh, 820 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Yeah, you know what. 821 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: I love xx XO. Oh my god, I love x 822 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: x x Oh is that not beloved? No, it's hate 823 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: that album is hate it? Wait? I love it, but 824 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: it's kind of her art pop I think. Yeah, yeah, 825 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: I love it too. She's coming back soon, she announced? 826 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah? I can't wait. Unfortunately, I'm addicted. 827 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: I love him. I I love him, and this is 828 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: gym culture, and that's part of it. You know, the 829 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: other thing about gym culture is that they always whenever 830 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm in the weight room, they are playing the music 831 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: they play in the gym. Like occasionally you'll get it 832 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, you snapped, like thank you for 833 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: playing hung up. That's awesome, right, Like, but more often 834 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: than not, it's like it's like the whole genre of 835 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: song where it's like E d M sometimes like a 836 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: remix of a song that's actually good, where it's like 837 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: it'll be a chorus and then there will be like 838 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: a melodic sort of instrumental track where it's like it's 839 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: all these you know, the songs that are like man 840 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: my way through the journey, and then the choruses like 841 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: okay that that's not resonating at all. That reminds me 842 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: of um timber by pit Bull featuring. It's very that, 843 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: but that's like the gayest version of it, and everything 844 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: else feels very like frat house core, like you know, 845 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: the Yeah, the line between what is game music and 846 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: what is like aggressively homophobic musically kind of blurry, right, 847 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: which is so weird because it's all electronic. But it's 848 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 1: like if you just cross into it, if it's like 849 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: like wait, but if there's not like a female singer 850 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: that I can recognize, and I'm like, I can't do it, 851 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yes, yes, this actually reminds 852 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: me of our deleted episode. We have an unreleased episode 853 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 1: with well technically they're all unreleased, right and we're keeping 854 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: them locked up in the vault till the end of time. 855 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm well, that's the thing that we have to part 856 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: of the deal when we got out of Pod Life, 857 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: the reality show that we were on, is that we 858 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: have to produce one thousand episodes and then just keep 859 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: giving them back to them and then it's we don't 860 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: we don't have ownership over They get to decide if 861 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: if they really not, So it's all up to Mr 862 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: Audible and Michael Barbaro. He was the host of that show, 863 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,479 Speaker 1: and he was so Michael bar Yeah, you know, Michael 864 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: Barbarro was truly like you could tell he was doing 865 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: it for the paycheck. Yeah, you can tell he was 866 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: doing it for his void, his like this is the 867 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: daily that was out the window. It was literally like yeah, 868 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: he was like high. And then sometimes weirdly high, you 869 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, A lot of 870 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: people don't know that he has the highest. It's just 871 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: literally be recording the daily and then it'll be over. 872 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: Then I'll be like, okay, I should get some tea. 873 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: The range that he has is like kind of beautiful, 874 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: like he could have been a singer. Well he is, right, 875 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: he Actually I was about to say he's in any 876 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: of those songs where you don't recognize the female singer, 877 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: it is him just in the studio, like did we 878 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: get it? But yeah, but they never they never say 879 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: like featuring Michael Barbarro. It's like because he does it, 880 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: because he loves it. Yeah, he doesn't do it, and 881 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: he donates all the money to the charity of Blael Bloomberg. 882 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: He's actually amazing. Michael Barbarrow is single handedly funding Michael 883 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's presidential run with the money he makes from E 884 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: D M tracks the play at And it's like it's 885 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: hard for me because I'll be at the gym and 886 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, like this music sucks, but like I 887 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: know it's going for a good cause. Yeah, exactly, yeah campaign. 888 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: You know. Okay, here's the weird thing about this election cycle, 889 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: if I can say, it's hard to be like ironic 890 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: about like like obviously not voting for Bloomberg. Obviously I'm 891 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: not voting for like bood, But to like make jokes 892 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 1: about it is like funny to me. But then people 893 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: are like, wait, right, it's like actually to be clear, 894 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: like I think he's disgusting, like discussing little pig. It's like, 895 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: why can't you understand that, I'm like so joking, why 896 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: would I ever support this psychopath? Because people misconstrued your 897 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: ironic Bloomberg support. But I am I do think, I 898 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: do think it's possible, and I like, I'll like draft 899 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: such jokes and then I won't send them because I'm 900 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: afraid of it. Wait, do you know what's crazy? I 901 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: did that the other day, and the joke was, if 902 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg is a racist, then how come he has 903 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: a support of a small minority of voters. Make it 904 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: makes sense and it's meant to be like in the 905 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: voice of someone defending Michael Bloomberg, but like, yeah, it's 906 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: too much, it's too much. Did you like? Anna Fabrega 907 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: had a really funny she made like a stupid graphic 908 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: that was like a puzzle pieces of like a campaign, 909 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: and then the last one was like Bloomberg twenty and 910 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: she was just like it all fits together and it 911 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: was like really cheesy and like yeah in her classic style. 912 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: And then uh, the replies were like, please tell me 913 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: this isn't real. Like it was like obviously it's it 914 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: is crazy. I did one tweet about the election. I 915 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: was like, let me dip my little toes in and 916 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: it was like a tweet that was sincerely just being 917 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: like vote for Bernie Sanders, like relaxed. It was just 918 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: it was literally was like and literally people came out 919 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: of the woodwork to just scream at me. And by 920 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: the way, it's like people are like toxic Sanders supporters, 921 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: and it was a lot of people from all these 922 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: other political camps being like listen to me, you should 923 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: kill yourself. And it was funny because it's like as 924 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: soon as it started like getting responses, I just like 925 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: muted it and like have not looked at it since. 926 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: And every time I scroll past and I'm like, wow, 927 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: this is like two replies and I'm just like people 928 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: are just screaming at a wall and it's so funny 929 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: to me. It's interesting because everyone. If you're a supporter 930 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: of any presidential candidate, the main thing that you have 931 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: to do is tweet at people to kill themselves. But 932 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: but it's different depending on who you support. Like, if 933 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: you support you know, Elizabeth Warren, it might be like, 934 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: kill yourself, so that's the thing. It will be like 935 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: a cadaver, yeah exactly. Or then if you support Amy Klobuchar, 936 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: it'll be like, hey, y'all kill yourself. Oh my god. 937 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: But honestly, never again. After that experience, I was like, 938 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: I cannot handle being like people like smarmy little people 939 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: on the internet like telling me what to do. It 940 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 1: was like absolutely not. Get out of here, I know, 941 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: and it's so satisfying and muta and just be like 942 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: have fun kids, Like yeah, I hate when I had 943 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: a tweet about how we need to stop talking. Okay, 944 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: oh about our tweets in general, yeah, okay, but they're 945 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: so funny, that's true. Okay, um promise. Wait what was 946 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: your topic? The gym? The gym? Oh, the gym? Oh? 947 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: We talked about that enough, Yeah, I think we got it. 948 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: I also was like, you know, I don't want to 949 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: sorry to have like a meta moment, And also to 950 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: fully throw you guys under the bus. Told about the 951 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 1: content for the show moments before, you know, so I 952 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: was sort of like something perfect. So I'm realizing that 953 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: an improv podcast I didn't have. I don't have other 954 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: stuff about the gym. Really, I didn't come prepared right. Well, 955 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,479 Speaker 1: the whole thing is, you get the topic right before 956 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: we started, literally one minute, and you're expected to have 957 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: a tight minute to Can I have like ten seconds 958 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: to try to come up with another funny idea about 959 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: the gym? Well, here's here's some thought. The answer is no, 960 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: I just that's not how that works. Do you follow 961 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: a routine or do you just let the wind guide? 962 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: It's it's like more and more routine. But it is 963 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: a little bit like I get in there and my 964 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: freestyle it you know what I mean. That is crazy. Yeah. 965 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: The only time in my life that I had that, 966 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: I did go to the gym regularly. I followed because 967 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: I did not know what I was doing. I followed 968 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: a very strict like it was like two months beginners 969 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: work out or whatever. So I know more and more now, 970 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: like things do which muscles and so it's like I'll 971 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: go in there be like today's like upper body arm day. 972 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: So I like, like, you know what I mean. Now 973 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: here's the part. Are you someone who has dabbled in 974 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: working with a trainer. I think I've done like three 975 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: sessions once at a past gym, and it's like that's 976 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: the way you really do it because they actually, you know, 977 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: you go to the gym and it a certain when 978 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: you're like, well I don't want to be here anymore. 979 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: The sucks, and then you leave. And then actually, if 980 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: you have a trainer, they're the ones who are gonna 981 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: be like, do six more and you're like I don't 982 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,879 Speaker 1: want to, but you have to and I can't put 983 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: that actually sounds really helpful and cost five thousand jillion dollars. 984 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know what, I'm like waiting because 985 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: my younger brother, who's straight, which is awesome, he like, 986 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,959 Speaker 1: really younger people are straight and and older people are gay. 987 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 1: It's it's actually have that too, and it's like kind 988 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 1: of crazy. It's like this should be flipped. Wait, totally 989 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: should be. It's like a weird genetic mutation where sometimes 990 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: older people are gay and younger people are straight. It's like, 991 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: especially with like brothers, where it's like yeah, this is 992 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: because there's a whole like pseudoscience whatever, where it's like 993 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 1: the more brothers there are in a family, the more 994 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 1: likely they are to be gay the younger they get. 995 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: And it's like wait but literally, like that's not like 996 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: my younger brothers straight and I'm gay. Like call the 997 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: scientists because I haven't no like a medical like miracle, 998 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: Like literally doctor House needs to come here. And you 999 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: talk about that. When you went to get professionally evaluated, evaluated, Yeah, 1000 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: I told them everything. You gonna tell them everything. Well, 1001 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: you can't have secrets with your evaluator because then it 1002 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: just w And it's for me ultimately when I get evaluated, Like, 1003 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: honesty is really key, but I with me, I need 1004 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: to get evaluated. You've got to get evaluated. If you aren' 1005 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: getting evaluated, you're not taking your career seriously, your career, 1006 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: your health, your romantic life, you're I mean sometimes if 1007 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: you don't get evaluated and then renew your homosexuality, you 1008 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: wake up in your straight Yeah that actually is scary. Yeah, 1009 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: actually let's not talk about that. Really frightening. Sorry Charlie, 1010 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: I cut you off. Come. Well, my experience at the 1011 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: gym is so often and this is why I feel 1012 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 1: like it's a straight spaces. I'll be like looking at 1013 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: something and I'm like, I want this muscle to be bigger, 1014 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: like you know, and I'll have to take a picture 1015 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,919 Speaker 1: of it and send it to my brother and he'll 1016 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: be like, that's a trapezoid or whatever, you know, when 1017 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,359 Speaker 1: people respond and I'm like, your trapezoids are looking really good. Yeah, 1018 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: they are sharp right now. Thank you, Charlie. You are 1019 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: one of the sharpest physically sharpest people actually do that 1020 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: is absolutely true. Well, and honestly, I'm trying to be 1021 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: less sharp actually the gym. That's one of my goals. 1022 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: Like you are like angular and sharp. You know, I'll 1023 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 1: take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. You do 1024 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: have great bone structure and that. And I'm not just 1025 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: saying that did you get that at the gym? And 1026 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: now it's working out. That's working out. That's what it'll do. You. Well. 1027 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm also doing like and I don't know, do do this. 1028 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: I have like big tub of white powder that I 1029 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: like mix in with ships, so I really respect. I've 1030 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: never done big tup of white powder. You haven't. It 1031 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: surprises me because I'm like, what's the thing I am. 1032 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: I just like, like working out, I'm not necessarily like 1033 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 1: going for something like I'm trying to be so big 1034 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: that no one ever can make me feel small again. 1035 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: That's my my dream body, and that's good. I want 1036 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: to have a joke about it that really connects. Yeah, 1037 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 1: that I felt like heard in I'll tell you later. 1038 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: It's really really good. It's actually in my set now permanently. 1039 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: I do I do right to like being very conscious 1040 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 1: of the amount of physical space you take up me 1041 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: or you know, generally one one, okay, I was like, 1042 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: you are always in my way. I was like, oh, yeah, no, 1043 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: are you actually are you working out because you're trying 1044 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: to fix the fact that you're always in my way? 1045 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: Because you are in my way. Well, it's funny because 1046 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: there are so many times I just want to be smaller, 1047 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: like you know, on the train, I'm like, are right? 1048 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: But then it's like there are certain times whe it's 1049 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,919 Speaker 1: like ultimate and that's why it feels like a really 1050 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: masculine drive to be like, let me just like broad 1051 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: in myself and I'm like, what am I like running? 1052 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like when am I trying 1053 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: to hide from alm? It's like being made to feel small. 1054 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: You want to feel hot. I just want to feel hot, 1055 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: which is so it feels so pathetic and stupid. No, 1056 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's actually the most important thing. It's like, 1057 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't don't minimize it. Wanting to be hot is important, 1058 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: but it is just like I want to go to 1059 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: the beach. I want to go to recentach, you know 1060 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, and be like that, and people are like, 1061 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: whoa secret body? Yeah? Secret? I want like secret body. 1062 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: I want secret body big time. But you know what 1063 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: I also want, Okay, here's what I really want. I 1064 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: want a time machine. I want to go back to 1065 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: high school. I want to play football, right, And they're 1066 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: losing and saying yes, but yeah, Charlie's like, yeah, totally, 1067 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: I want to play football too. I'm playing football right, 1068 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm the star blindbacker. I'm huge now. And then wait, 1069 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, congrats. And then and then I go 1070 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: to college and I sort of stopped, and I sort 1071 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: of I'm drinking like a lot of beer, and I'm 1072 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: like hanging out with my friends a lot. And then 1073 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm like twenty four and I'm like fucking properly formerly 1074 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: muscly and now just like tasteful. You're just describing. Literally, 1075 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's precisely what you're doing it. 1076 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: I want to be that too. I want to be 1077 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: what I'm attracted to. No, that's not true. I'd like 1078 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: to be really little and have them be big and 1079 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,919 Speaker 1: carry Do you actually like that? Yeah? Interesting, it's both true, 1080 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: like and that's bisexuality, Like you can want to be 1081 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: big and small, and that's being bisexual. You know, this 1082 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: whole podcast, we've been really trying to define what is 1083 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: bi sexuality because somebody said it and we were like, wait, 1084 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. What does that mean. We found out 1085 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: about bisexuality a couple of weeks ago and we're like, 1086 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: and honey, I'm in, I'm all in all and I 1087 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: mean we did. We had never heard about it before. No, 1088 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,760 Speaker 1: I was like, wait what is that? Say that word again? 1089 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: And then I was like sexually it comes from the 1090 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: Greek word for to sex sexist, and then and then 1091 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 1: by means um uh turf bangs. It literally is like 1092 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: when you are like, do you know how when you're 1093 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: gay and sometimes you want to be like so little 1094 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: that someone can just like hold you and toss you 1095 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: where and sometimes when you're gay, you want to be big, 1096 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 1: and that to me, it's like that's being bisexual because 1097 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: you have two different sexuality. I want to be little. Yes, 1098 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: the two sexualities are little and big. So I feel 1099 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: that's how I feel. That's how I feel. Do you 1100 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: negate my feelings? Absolutely not. I think that's so. And anyway, 1101 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: like the gym is really and it's interesting because it's like, 1102 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, not to so oversimplify it, but to do 1103 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: that for a second. It's like, you know, sometimes I'll 1104 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: go to the gym with my like girlfriends and they're like, 1105 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to the gym because i want to be small, 1106 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I'm going to the gym because 1107 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: I want to be big. And it's like that's gender. 1108 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: That's to put it like pin and that it's like 1109 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: that's general because that's really helpful because I just learned 1110 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: about gender like two weeks ago, and so now that 1111 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: it's defined, you can recognize I can recognize it when 1112 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, the thing is, once you hear about it, 1113 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: you see it everywhere. Right, Yeah, it's definitely. Once I 1114 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: was like I have a gender that I was like, oh, 1115 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: everyone has one, like you see it in media. You 1116 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: see it, Uh, you know restaurants. I'm always in a restaurant. 1117 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's gender. It's like like I would go 1118 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: to restaurants and I'd be like, okay, we're all people, 1119 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: and now I'm like man woman man woman. It's crazy. 1120 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it's like you learn the rules, 1121 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: you learn how to break them. It's like man short hair, 1122 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: woman long hair, and then sometimes you see people mix 1123 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: it up. It's insane and like that's Picasso, you know 1124 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, That's what I still I'm sort of like, whoa, 1125 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: what's going struggle with that? But I do believe through. Yeah, 1126 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard when a man has long hair. 1127 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, way that I'll be with salmon. Then someone 1128 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: has a confusing gender expression and Sam would just be 1129 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: like what is that? Well to be there, I literally 1130 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: just learned to be No one would expect like anything 1131 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: more from And actually the fact that you're open about 1132 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: being curious is really beautiful. That's what it's that you're 1133 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: bi curious. Being bi curious is when you don't understand gender. 1134 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, okay, the gym though straight spaced theory. Yeah, 1135 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: let's talk about that dirty underbelly. Yeah, I'm talking about 1136 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: the gay people there. Wow, And don't I hope like 1137 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: the wrong people don't listen to this and like take 1138 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: advantage of the fact that you dirty. That's actually why 1139 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to the gym to get rid of my 1140 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: dirty underbelly. Okay, Well, A huge thing in the gym, 1141 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: and this is why I come back and back again, 1142 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: is that you go to the locker room and you 1143 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: get to be like a total horny little pervert in there, 1144 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: and it's so fun and hot. It's so hot. It's 1145 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: does I don't know about your gym. My gym smells 1146 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: like ship in a way. I really think the locker 1147 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: room smells like fucking ship so that gay people are like, 1148 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: don't linger too long. I think it's like they spray 1149 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: ship smell everywhere to be like get out and it works. 1150 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't have that experience. My locker room is awesome. 1151 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: I love spending time there. I'll just hang out and 1152 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: sort of watch that the people come in and out. 1153 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Do you shower, yeah, I'll show. It was just so hot, 1154 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: you like with your little talent, right, yeah. Okay, but 1155 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: that's like a huge part of the gym is like 1156 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: you're in and actually that's gender, do you know what 1157 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean? Like in that it's like there's like a 1158 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: boy's log room in a girl's locker room. It's like 1159 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll go to the gym and my gym, I 1160 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: mean to go to Crunch. There's a sauna. Don't freak out. 1161 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: I actually didn't know that. There's a sign there. I'm 1162 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: in a student membership. Please don't tell Crunch Gym. Wait, 1163 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. It's really good. Wait wait, wait, 1164 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna which which Crunch Doe Park Slow? Oh my god, him, 1165 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: that's why I was gonna. I was gonna be Charlie's 1166 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: guest one day and then I had to count. It 1167 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: all makes sense that coming together. Okay, wait, in fact, 1168 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: with the Crunch Gym, not to doctor both of us 1169 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: is I would say, fully halfway between our two apartments. 1170 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: It's almost too perfect. We can now locate like there's 1171 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: sort of a set of points, like the way I 1172 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: live in the Grand Army Plaza statue just around there. Um, wait, 1173 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: is the steam room hot though? Yes, literally it's a 1174 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 1: steam George, you know what I'm asking. Yes, But it's 1175 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: like I'm actually not there yet where I can really 1176 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: linger there because I don't know, like do people hook 1177 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: up there? I don't know. I feel like steam rooms 1178 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 1: are meant for gay people to hook up in, right, 1179 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Like it feels like what else you really it is 1180 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: park Slope, So that means it's not gay? Is that 1181 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: what you're saying, or it's saying it's more vanilla than 1182 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the average. Yeah, I think that is like a little 1183 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: bit the Since I get at this at the Park 1184 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Slope Crunch steam room, one of my life goals is 1185 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: to join an Equinox, to go to those steam rooms 1186 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 1: to um, you know, do whatever it is people do 1187 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: in steam rooms, right, Yeah, Okay, you're pissed. No I'm not. 1188 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: It's just like Equinox literally cost five million dollars a month, 1189 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm just like I will kind of pretend 1190 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: that it's normal that so many of our friends go, 1191 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, wait, what's the secret? Wait? Literally, 1192 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: like people were like I'm dropping, like you're you were 1193 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 1: having it? Like what is going on with you? Like 1194 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: that is absolutely crazy? And people like no, you don't understand. 1195 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Like there's a smoothie shop inside where you can buy listen. 1196 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm I fully I am on board with like wanting 1197 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to write with understanding the appeal. It's just like, how 1198 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: are how does anyone how can you afford this? This 1199 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: is crazy? Yeah, that's the spectrum of friends that have it. 1200 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Is like, well I know that, like you have money, 1201 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: but like you okay, dangerous territory. Wait, can everyone go 1202 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: around the table and the name which of my friends has? 1203 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I brought a list of all our friends and there 1204 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I recently found out that someone I know who's not 1205 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: uh not a comedian is a rucker Feller. Wait, and 1206 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: I just like didn't not to be a complete b 1207 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: but you really pronounced that are Wait what do I say? 1208 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, so sorry, George is like freaking out 1209 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: right now, and just it's like Rockefeller not you don't 1210 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: say that they are like they're not like you, I 1211 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 1: pronouncing it intentionally like rock or like a rock car Feller. 1212 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: It was like an intentional pronunciation. I'm like, that's a 1213 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: folksy way of saying rock star to me, Like that's 1214 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: how it registers first, Like I don't think it's supposubpout 1215 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: to be pronounced at all. Yeah, Like even when you're 1216 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: over pronouncing. You don't pronounce it like rocker, shut up, Like, 1217 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're both completely attacking me because I 1218 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: pronounced something the way it's written, like what's next? Haunting, unbelievable. 1219 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: So who's the rock I'm not going to tell you. No, 1220 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: say they're addressed. I'm not going to say, just say 1221 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 1: where they live, don't say their names. Say they're addressed 1222 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: so we can look it up who they voted and 1223 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: even who they're going to vote for, and who they're 1224 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: donating to, which is public, which is crazy. Actually, why 1225 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: did they do it that way? I don't know. But 1226 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Mila Yoviovich donates one dollars to Bernie Standers every month? 1227 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,479 Speaker 1: Is that's pretty nice? Did you see that? Was it? 1228 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 1: One of the Obama daughters donated to Bernie, which was really, Well, 1229 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: it has to be Malia. Yeah, is Sasha old enough 1230 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: to okay? So people can't donate thousands of dollars? I didn't. Well, 1231 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: I've always loved Malia. Yeah, she's I mean, she's by 1232 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: far the best person in that family. Yeah, I really Sasha. Yeah, no, Sasha, 1233 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan. Um, get back to me when 1234 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: you've grown up a bit sweetie. It's like, smoke a 1235 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: Siagrett out of concert, give me a damn scanned, give 1236 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: me something to talk about. Yeah exactly, but she did. 1237 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: She donated, and it's like it's like, oh, that's why 1238 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 1: Brock hasn't whatever and she can't go there. Okay. Wait. 1239 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: One thing I like to do is like pick out 1240 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 1: who is gay at the gym by like their T shirts. 1241 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: I thought we're gonna say in the Obama Oh my god, Yeah, 1242 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: it's like, you know what the craziest T shirt. The 1243 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: T shirts I wear to the gym are so crazy 1244 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: because they really are like bottom of the peril, like 1245 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to use this one, so I 1246 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: wear I'm like dying. Okay. I have this one T 1247 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: shirt that's green that says data Geek and it has 1248 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: like fake pencils coming out of the pocket. And then 1249 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: I have another that says Pajamas all Day and it's 1250 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: I will march right into the weight room with my 1251 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: pajamas all Day shirt and like be like, ah, you 1252 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like lifting and thrusting and putting 1253 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: things every which where. I love that. Yeah, And that's 1254 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: queering this space that actually is brave. My shirt that 1255 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: says data geek. Data geeks can work out too. When 1256 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: I work out, I look so straight. You guys wouldn't 1257 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: recognize me I'm wearing, Like how long are your shorts? 1258 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: They're honestly like a little like they like don't name. 1259 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: Are they like basketball shorts? No, they're like running shorts, 1260 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 1: but like running shorts that like a suburban got it, 1261 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Dad would got it? Got it? Like wide, a little 1262 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 1: bit a little wide because I try. I have these 1263 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 1: skimpy little numbers that I was like gonna wear, but 1264 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: then they don't have an pocket space for my phone 1265 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 1: and like if I don't have my phone, like how 1266 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: am I at the gym? Right? And um? But I 1267 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: wear like a University of Virginia T shirt like everyone 1268 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 1: thinks I'm like in a frat. Oh my god, that's awesome. 1269 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Like it's kind of like, Sam, that is so cool. 1270 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 1: You're so pissed at me. You've been mad at me, literally, 1271 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know what I did, Like I turned 1272 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: my invoice on time, Like I like like I clocked 1273 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: in right on time, and yet like I'm being a 1274 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: good employee. Can I say that the way that people 1275 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: know that you're gay at the gym is you probably 1276 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: like in between stuff, you're probably crossing your legs and 1277 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 1: going on your phone. Oh and I'm fully opening scruff, 1278 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:54,479 Speaker 1: like not even after each thing, just after each single rep, 1279 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: like do one rep and then you sit down, cross 1280 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: your legs and look at your phone and a man 1281 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: is like, are you still using this? And you're like, yep, 1282 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm still on it. Thank you. Um, I think we 1283 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 1: need to do our finals. What's crazy is we actually 1284 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: do have to end. That can't be true, No, it is. 1285 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: It is so many things don't end, and nothing's really over. 1286 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: Katie Perry, time write a song, write a song about that. 1287 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I love that one. Actually against my better judgment, I mean, 1288 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 1: she sucks, but the hits her hit hits her heads 1289 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 1: and I actually think she does tuck. But then it 1290 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: also in a different sense she doesn't. That's another example bisexuality, 1291 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Katy Burr. In that sense, it's bisexual. She's more bisexual 1292 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 1: than any of us. That's and then yea. And then 1293 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: just to close the loop on the different kinds of identities, 1294 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 1: going off of what you said about ueering the space 1295 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: by wearing weird clothing, being queer just means wearing weird clothing. 1296 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: Of course, that's why I like and you guys can see, 1297 01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: but that's why I look fucking like insane right now 1298 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 1: in the studio. Yeah No, it's intimidating. It's very art 1299 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:08,439 Speaker 1: pop era. It's like it's a Luke. Oh, she's a 1300 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,440 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to describe. It's like. And that's 1301 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: why the in our reality show, because it was audio based, 1302 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 1: the Luke Queens did not do as well. You know, 1303 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: comedy fashion girls really tried, but they tried to hard. 1304 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,919 Speaker 1: It was just really hard to get that image across 1305 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 1: um audio. But that's life. So the final segment is 1306 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 1: sort of an homage to a beautiful element of straight culture, 1307 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: which is the shout out. Um, shout out to something 1308 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 1: that you love. It can be literally anything in the 1309 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: whole wide world. Um, And you sort of do it 1310 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 1: in the style of and I have to say, imagine 1311 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: you're at MTVS tr L Times Square it's two thousand 1312 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 1: one and you are there with your whole squad and 1313 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: you are shouting out to the rest of your school. UM. 1314 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 1: So um, I'll go first. Actually, right, okay, okay, what's up, listeners, Um, 1315 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: I just want to give a shout out to the 1316 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: first five pages of this book I'm reading. Um, you 1317 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 1: were really difficult, and you made it seem like I 1318 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 1: have a big journey ahead of me, full of interesting characters, 1319 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be quite hard to get through it 1320 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 1: and remember all the details. And yet I am intrigued. 1321 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 1: I love your first five pages of the book. I'm reading. 1322 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 1: WHOA wow, is it the book I think it is? 1323 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: Don't answer those spoilers. Yeah, it is okay, cool cool, cool, 1324 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 1: Hey listeners. I just want to get a big shout 1325 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 1: out to the city of Philadelphia. I was recently there 1326 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: for under twenty four hours and would not do any 1327 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: sight seeing, but I didn't need three people and I 1328 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: liked all three of them and I walked past the 1329 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: Liberty Belt. Really great work. Thank you at Philadelphia. UM. 1330 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give a really quick shout out 1331 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 1: now that I have the opportunity to the title of 1332 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 1: the book, The Heart is a Lonely Hunter, which is 1333 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 1: a book that I haven't read, but I think the 1334 01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,759 Speaker 1: title is amazing and so like sort of powerful and visceral, 1335 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's something I think about all the time, 1336 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 1: and I just want to like shout out out for 1337 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: the ways it's like illuminated in my life and sort 1338 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 1: of helped me and like pursuing like truth and authenticity 1339 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 1: and like happiness and flourishing. Can I take it back, 1340 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: take it back of publishing your own book, which is 1341 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: called On Earth the Heart is Briefly a Lonely Hunter 1342 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:31,719 Speaker 1: and the reviews and you know what, the review is gorgeous. Well, um, Charlie, 1343 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,479 Speaker 1: I really think this was a beautiful discussion on Jim 1344 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,760 Speaker 1: culture and honestly one of our most on topic episodes yet. 1345 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: And you know what, Charlie, you really showed celest you 1346 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: don't have to think twice about mentioning podcast again. And 1347 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: let that be a listen to all you listeners. Don't 1348 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,719 Speaker 1: fucking come for me, because I'll fucking do an amazing 1349 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 1: job at something later maybe unrelated. Keep it and that's that. 1350 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 1: On that. That's on that with Rue Paul. Have a 1351 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: good night. I'm what's her name the other Michelle Michelle 1352 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Vassage and good night and thank you bye. Um. Who 1353 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: could that mine