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Speaker 4: Hello everyone, guys, it's such.
Speaker 3: An exciting episode today. It's season eight episode nine, between
Speaker 3: Amazing Grace and Raising Hell, which aired November sixteenth, twenty ten.
Speaker 3: Are incredible Thanksgiving episode directed by Bethany joy Lenz.
Speaker 4: Hello, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I freaking love this episode. Joy. Do you want to
Speaker 3: tell our friends at home what it's about?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: This is the Thanksgiving episode of season eight. It is uh,
Speaker 4: it's the whole gang ends up at Nathan and Haley's
Speaker 4: house to spend Thanksgiving with their friends and non friend
Speaker 4: friends and family and people they wish weren't family, and
Speaker 4: all of just.
Speaker 3: The most fun. You crushed it.
Speaker 4: Thank you, and Nikki Shfflbeine wrote it. She did a
Speaker 4: great job too.
Speaker 3: Because this episode is such a special one. It's not
Speaker 3: even just the three of us who get to walk
Speaker 3: down memory Lane. We have a friend coming to join
Speaker 3: us today. Producers, will you bring her in?
Speaker 5: Who could it be?
Speaker 3: Who could it be? Dun Dun, dun dun.
Speaker 4: I saw her face for.
Speaker 3: Friends, family, listeners, the myth, the legend, the icon. As
Speaker 3: Rob Buckley just said, the National Treasure Sharon Lawrence is
Speaker 3: here with us today.
Speaker 5: Welcome.
Speaker 6: I am so excited to see you all together. It's
Speaker 6: very rare that in my life I've been in the
Speaker 6: same room with all of you. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 6: I'm not even sure it's happened even on One Tree Hill.
Speaker 5: No on this episode.
Speaker 3: In this episode, did well were you were briefly though?
Speaker 2: That's very very very briefly.
Speaker 6: But you must have been sitting at another Thanksgiving table because.
Speaker 2: You had a wound.
Speaker 6: You you had been you were injuredewing play football.
Speaker 3: He was injured.
Speaker 4: He was injured from being shot.
Speaker 5: Yes, I had been shot.
Speaker 3: And then Clay. I mean we're jumping ahead, but when
Speaker 3: Clay and Quinn go home, when you think about the
Speaker 3: number of days and enjoy I wonder if you remember
Speaker 3: how many days we were in the Nathan and Haley
Speaker 3: House to do Thanksgiving dinner because obviously it was a
Speaker 3: lot of days. Yeah, Rob, you probably were there for
Speaker 3: two days. You probably had a real nice schedule on
Speaker 3: this episode.
Speaker 7: I had forgotten how the episode played out, and so
Speaker 7: when Quinn shows up and she's like, let's get out
Speaker 7: of here, I was like, oh, did I have a
Speaker 7: light episode?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 7: Is it just going to be one seat in the
Speaker 7: bedroom after this?
Speaker 6: For me?
Speaker 5: And it was?
Speaker 3: It was congratulations, sir, Thank.
Speaker 7: You everyone, Thank you line producer Joy. You did such
Speaker 7: a good job with this episode. It was so fun
Speaker 7: to watch. It was so damn funny. You had so
Speaker 7: many spinning plates, like this episode was jam packed. But
Speaker 7: I just I want to start by just saying like
Speaker 7: you did an incredible job with it.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you so much. I'm really I loved getting
Speaker 4: this episode put on my plate. Pardon the pun. Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: That Okay, maybe it's not that good. I was really
Speaker 4: happy about this because, and I think maybe they knew
Speaker 4: I was the right director for it, because I love props,
Speaker 4: and I love choreography and the movement, the constant movement
Speaker 4: of things, and I was always really I have a
Speaker 4: very natural inclination toward physical memory. So whatever I do
Speaker 4: in a scene, I can repeat. It's like it's in
Speaker 4: my body, so I can repeat the exact movements on
Speaker 4: the exact line, on the exact word. I have a
Speaker 4: weird like memory glitch with all that stuff. So I
Speaker 4: think maybe they gave it to me because they knew
Speaker 4: I could handle like all the different moving pieces. But
Speaker 4: it was not without its challenge. I mean, as natural
Speaker 4: as that came to me, that was It was a
Speaker 4: lot of fun. And there's so much to talk about
Speaker 4: with this episode, but I really want to say how
Speaker 4: excited I was, particularly to direct Sharon, because Sharon, I
Speaker 4: had never met you. I think I knew that you
Speaker 4: were in but we didn't have any scenes together, and
Speaker 4: I was frothing at the bit because you are a legend.
Speaker 4: You've you've been in this industry, You've had such an
Speaker 4: incredible illustrious career and continue to guys. Sharon is the
Speaker 4: reason why I have my manager, by the way, because
Speaker 4: there was a point of time, like a couple of years,
Speaker 4: and I just really wasn't working much, and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know who works more than anyone else? I know,
Speaker 4: Sharon Lawrence, who is representing her.
Speaker 3: That we have the same manager.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's amazing and Sharon, You're just incredible. So I
Speaker 4: would love to know, like how this job came to
Speaker 4: you and what was appealing about it for you and
Speaker 4: what brought you down to Wilmington.
Speaker 6: It was an offer, which is lovely, Yeah, and it
Speaker 6: was a character that I had started to begin to play,
Speaker 6: these sort of monster in laws, the polish pain in
Speaker 6: the ass, and.
Speaker 2: I, for me, it was I enjoyed those kinds of roles.
Speaker 6: I still do because they typically are there in the
Speaker 6: show to change.
Speaker 2: The temperature, to create another vibe.
Speaker 6: It's what I do on Joe Pickett as a matter,
Speaker 6: it's what I did on Dynasty. They all have a
Speaker 6: different profile to them. But I enjoy knowing that I
Speaker 6: can come in and hit be asked to sort of
Speaker 6: do hit some trick moves, and by that I mean
Speaker 6: just change the temperature in whatever way it requires.
Speaker 2: Whether it's.
Speaker 6: Someone who is mercurial or someone who is can can
Speaker 6: be many different things.
Speaker 2: In a short period of time, shift.
Speaker 6: Within a condensed period, so that you can't necessarily know
Speaker 6: if this person is one you're going to if you're
Speaker 6: going to be on their side or not, if you
Speaker 6: have an ambivalence about them because they are not They
Speaker 6: might be one note on the page, but I like
Speaker 6: to play them what they call the blue notes, which
Speaker 6: are the in jazz. It's what isn't the notes that
Speaker 6: aren't there. So that's fun for me. On NYPD Blue,
Speaker 6: I was required to be a good woman and it
Speaker 6: was great. That was a great way to break into
Speaker 6: television because people trusted me, they trusted what I was
Speaker 6: going to bring to certain roles, and then I got
Speaker 6: a chance to change it up and be somebody who
Speaker 6: don't know if you can trust.
Speaker 2: And for an actor, you understand that's.
Speaker 6: Fun because ultimately what you want to do is be
Speaker 6: able to just be layered, create a person who's layered,
Speaker 6: because that's more interesting anyway.
Speaker 4: The way that you played Sylvia with all those layers
Speaker 4: becomes an extremely generous thing for you to do as
Speaker 4: an actor because what it does is highlight the other
Speaker 4: layers in different characters that we don't normally get to see.
Speaker 4: Particularly in this episode with Victoria, there's something about who
Speaker 4: Sylvia is that gives Victoria permission to explore a different
Speaker 4: part of her personality that was really surprising to me
Speaker 4: to see, even as a director on set, but going
Speaker 4: back years later and watching it back, I was so surprised.
Speaker 3: Well, and particularly because Brook and Victoria are butting heads
Speaker 3: in such an intense way, and Victoria's just said, we
Speaker 3: don't need to talk, and Brook's like, fine, I thought
Speaker 3: I had a mom, and I guess I don't. The
Speaker 3: heightened fight. Sylvia stepping in as an ally for Victoria
Speaker 3: actually lets Victoria be more gentle because instead of I
Speaker 3: see you yeah, instead of us just screaming at each other,
Speaker 3: you give her a soft place to land, and so
Speaker 3: she softens. And what you're making me realize, which I
Speaker 3: hate to say I hadn't really thought of until this
Speaker 3: moment with you, is that you essentially got brought in
Speaker 3: to play this woman for the same reason I got
Speaker 3: brought in as Brook. It was to stir the pot.
Speaker 3: It was to cause conflict and be a pain in
Speaker 3: the ass to these established people. So you know, they
Speaker 3: added me in episode two and then Brooke and Julian
Speaker 3: hit this point where we need is mom to come
Speaker 3: in and cause conflict in our house, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. Of course Sylvia drives crazy because they're
Speaker 3: so similar. And then that you become friends with my mom,
Speaker 3: who I in this moment hate, like in this crazy
Speaker 3: way as an adult reflecting, I'm seeing a whole thing
Speaker 3: that while I was having the time of my life
Speaker 3: with you and Daphne, I don't even think I saw them.
Speaker 6: And if I may, and all are i've played your
Speaker 6: mother's or your mother in laws now since the beginning
Speaker 6: of the.
Speaker 4: All three of ours right, yes, yes.
Speaker 6: Bob's on the Hallmark hit movies The Christmas House as
Speaker 6: a good woman and joy and points out us for
Speaker 6: Christmas as a good woman, and of course yours Sophia
Speaker 6: that the mother.
Speaker 2: In law in One Tree Hill.
Speaker 6: And what I think most people who I realize that
Speaker 6: they're watching your show, you all realize too that women
Speaker 6: your age are watching them as mothers. They were younger
Speaker 6: women when watched, through younger people when they watched, and
Speaker 6: now Rob as parents they're watching, so they I believe
Speaker 6: you're the show's fans can perhaps have a more gracious
Speaker 6: understanding of the parents in that show. The authority figures
Speaker 6: that show, who weren't just someone to push against or
Speaker 6: to misunderstand or to try to break free from. When
Speaker 6: you see in this episode that these two middle aged
Speaker 6: women are seated at the kids table basically, you know,
Speaker 6: but are letting themselves relax, not necessarily help except when
Speaker 6: we put the fire out with the fire extinguisher, which
Speaker 6: we want to talk about.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker 2: And sipping on day drinking, I should say, just day drinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've earned it.
Speaker 6: They have they have earned it, and they need to
Speaker 6: to be careful that they don't forget how their uh
Speaker 6: input and impact is still influencing people. You know, we
Speaker 6: we're looking at the generation ahead of us to see
Speaker 6: how they're doing it. And is day drinking a good
Speaker 6: idea in your what we were I think both Daffy
Speaker 6: who we'd worked together. We were in class together in Larry
Speaker 6: Moss's acting class together, and then we done any serious
Speaker 6: So it's also part of the environmental movement avandia.
Speaker 2: So I think we were in our forties.
Speaker 4: Then maybe fabulous.
Speaker 6: Women drinking in the day. Women that age have to
Speaker 6: be careful. We can't just anesthetize ourselves. So even though
Speaker 6: there's a compassion that I hope we recognize for that
Speaker 6: generation of characters in the show, it's also a tale
Speaker 6: about how do you want to how do you want
Speaker 6: to be in your in when you're the parents of
Speaker 6: your grown kids.
Speaker 4: It's to your credit and Daphne and a lot of
Speaker 4: the other adult actors on the show, I think in
Speaker 4: large part why the show is still resonating because so
Speaker 4: many of the kids that were our age when we
Speaker 4: were airing are now in their adulthood enjoying the adult
Speaker 4: storylines because they weren't just figures to push against, because
Speaker 4: you actually brought in all these extra layers that as
Speaker 4: an adult, I can really enjoy the adult storylines now
Speaker 4: more than I enjoy the kids' storylines, even because I
Speaker 4: can relate to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And who can sit around in the afternoon and drink
Speaker 4: some but it's Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: Yeah, only I had of alcohol all problem she did.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. Yeah, also a whole through.
Speaker 2: And it's not even that's subtle.
Speaker 6: You know, it's not a story, but it's there and
Speaker 6: I yeah, Oh they wrote it for a reason, and
Speaker 6: I think it's important and I'm glad that they I'm
Speaker 6: glad that we're able to talk about it now.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I think is interesting too
Speaker 3: is to see the sort of level of success in
Speaker 3: career and life of these two women of Sylvia, of
Speaker 3: Victoria Sylvia. Now as I watch this back, would be
Speaker 3: my definition of a high functioning yeah addict. You know,
Speaker 3: she makes everything look great and then you go like,
Speaker 3: is it or or is she just having a moment
Speaker 3: because you know she's finally got kids in their twenties
Speaker 3: and she can have drinks with the kids, And isn't
Speaker 3: that what parents, you know, talk about when their kids
Speaker 3: are little, like want to be crazy when I have
Speaker 3: a beer with my son someday kind of thing. And
Speaker 3: you did it in a way where you constantly, as
Speaker 3: an audience member go, maybe it's a lot, maybe it isn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe she got overserved at the wedding expo, or maybe
Speaker 3: she wanted to like And it's a credit to the
Speaker 3: way you play her, and again to this sort of
Speaker 3: moment that we're all going, oh, get we get things
Speaker 3: now that we didn't get. Then, even when you and
Speaker 3: I have our moment at the door when Victoria leaves
Speaker 3: and you say I just want everyone to be happy,
Speaker 3: that resonates for me in a way that I don't
Speaker 3: think I could have seen it then, where despite whatever's
Speaker 3: gone on in the family or whatever's gone on in
Speaker 3: the chosen family, which is the friend group, and people
Speaker 3: are having a hard time, but they still really love
Speaker 3: each other and they're gonna work it out, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna fight it out because you've done it for twenty years.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, like, you might just have a really
Speaker 3: hard day and you might just want to have a
Speaker 3: really nice day where people don't fight and where we
Speaker 3: can put the differences aside and show up to the thing.
Speaker 3: And I think you just understand how long life is
Speaker 3: in your forties in a way that you don't in
Speaker 3: your twenties. And I love that as much as Nicky
Speaker 3: wrote this incredibly poignant, hilarious episode that gave us all
Speaker 3: so much to do. And I mean, oh my God,
Speaker 3: for me and Joy, who both love a prop to
Speaker 3: your point, Oh yeah, choreography, bubbling pots, glasses, flower, oh
Speaker 3: your physical comedy.
Speaker 4: I have so many notes about that, like my.
Speaker 3: Favorite thing to get to do, and then I got
Speaker 3: to do it with you. And I remember being in
Speaker 3: the kitchen and being like, and then we're gonna come
Speaker 3: over here, and then we're gonna come over here, Like
Speaker 3: it did feel like a dance show. There's so much
Speaker 3: comedy and under it, there's this really beautiful life stuff.
Speaker 3: That's really it's not like we have to hit you know,
Speaker 3: beat a dead horse or whatever that phrase is. It
Speaker 3: just simmers through the whole episode. And I think you're right, Joy.
Speaker 3: I think it's why so many people in every phase
Speaker 3: of their lives feel seen by our show, because even
Speaker 3: for us, we made it and we're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I didn't see that then, but I see it now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally cool.
Speaker 7: All right, we gotta talk about we're gonna get physical comedy.
Speaker 7: We have to talk about the fire extinguisher Bitwe I
Speaker 7: had to rewind it and watch it again because I
Speaker 7: obviously I know how great you are, Sharon, so I
Speaker 7: figured this was just a choice. When Sylvia runs out,
Speaker 7: she starts spraying it, and in the span of spraying
Speaker 7: the turkey, you make and break eye contact with Brooke three.
Speaker 3: Times you counted.
Speaker 7: And it's so perfect because it's like you're still going
Speaker 7: and you're like, are you gonna stop?
Speaker 5: It's this weird thing because it goes on.
Speaker 7: To me, I felt like it went on too far,
Speaker 7: But the fact that you keep bringing attention back to
Speaker 7: Brook was just so wonderfully awkward and fun, like almost
Speaker 7: like you were maybe is you're taking a little pleasure
Speaker 7: in it now because it feels like three.
Speaker 4: Seconds too far, you felt like, is this this is
Speaker 4: this is what but you want me to this isn't
Speaker 4: this is not what you wanted?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Well, first of all, I love how silly
Speaker 9: the wardrobe was for this, and I think that's part
Speaker 9: of what makes that that she's already dressed before.
Speaker 2: The you know, already yeah right, and wearing wearing a shrug.
Speaker 4: By the way you were wearing a shrug.
Speaker 2: It's a little half sweater that you know comes only
Speaker 2: to hear that covers up your Yeah, it's a shrug.
Speaker 2: It's so eighties.
Speaker 4: I remembered loving those in the nineties as her Fiona
Speaker 4: Apple's like favorite and a skirt.
Speaker 2: She's going someplace she hasn't been before, right.
Speaker 6: So she's and she's very she's overly excited, I think,
Speaker 6: and in heels, which changes the physicality of every year.
Speaker 6: When you're doing something like that, it's it you feel.
Speaker 2: Almost like a bad ass, but not quite.
Speaker 6: And I think that's what that's what was showing up
Speaker 6: in in that uh, the fact that she's going to
Speaker 6: be the hero here. I am going to fix what
Speaker 6: Brook is always.
Speaker 2: Going to break. I will always fix it, and I
Speaker 2: can do it wearing my silk blouse and heel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and uh, she's certainly not a cook, but she
Speaker 6: she's been criticizing Brook the whole time, right with the apple.
Speaker 7: Pie, justifiably so though justifiably with the apple tar apple pie?
Speaker 3: Was that the delivery on that was so good?
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 4: Is that a peel? Oh that's interesting, I hope no
Speaker 4: one jokes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So she's not straight up mean, but she has she
Speaker 6: has an opinion, and she notices everything. I think she
Speaker 6: prides herself on noticing everything. And the fact that she
Speaker 6: knew where their fire extinguisher was, uh huh. How many
Speaker 6: do you know how many people in your lives that
Speaker 6: don't live in the household have figured out?
Speaker 7: That struck me as odd that someone as with such
Speaker 7: a good eye as Brooke would have a fire extinguisher
Speaker 7: in open visibility, like an open eyesight, and like it
Speaker 7: felt like I would have just guessed at Brook's house
Speaker 7: it would have been in a cabinet somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we should have done that. We should
Speaker 4: have done that.
Speaker 6: It was it was accessible for a three shot. I
Speaker 6: wonder what that stuff was that we breathed in. You know,
Speaker 6: you have to the safety factors of that is My
Speaker 6: favorite was the three shot of us staring at it,
Speaker 6: looking at it like an American Gothic go on exactly.
Speaker 3: And I loved the beat of quiet before Austin, who
Speaker 3: committed again. Hats off to him. He commits to the
Speaker 3: bit so hard that he's just the most precious person
Speaker 3: all of us looking at it and knowing we have
Speaker 3: to replan our whole day, and he just says, maybe
Speaker 3: we can scrape it off. And that's where you see
Speaker 3: you and you and I fully agree. We both just
Speaker 3: go oooh. It's just like a perfect moment.
Speaker 7: Also the way that I didn't even realize it was
Speaker 7: happening until a bit in that it was perfectly contrasting
Speaker 7: Brooke and Haley like that, like their domestic abilities.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize.
Speaker 7: It's like the second time that it went immediately back
Speaker 7: to back where Haley is so calm, so in her elements,
Speaker 7: so in control, and then it goes back to Brook,
Speaker 7: which is hilarious because Brook is normally very poised, very
Speaker 7: aware and in control, and she is wild out of
Speaker 7: her depth, putting apple peels and tarts.
Speaker 4: Oh so fun to see though, the level of commitment
Speaker 4: you committed fully as well. I mean you were just
Speaker 4: rushing around, like your hairs in your face. The glasses,
Speaker 4: which I loved, this element of the glasses, which you
Speaker 4: know as have we even seen brooking glasses before? I
Speaker 4: don't know, but it worked.
Speaker 2: And the glove, yes, me very happy.
Speaker 6: I'm going to do a callback here which is not
Speaker 6: about this show, but the gloves give it a level
Speaker 6: of accessibility. They're awkward, but they are very relatable. And
Speaker 6: on NYPD Blue years ago, actually when sil when Andy.
Speaker 2: Proposes to Sylvia on and that's the other Sylvia I played,
Speaker 2: how weird I played two?
Speaker 4: I know, I was wondering if they named you Sylvia
Speaker 4: on this as sort of like a nodmage.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it's it's just a weird, weird thing, Yeah,
Speaker 6: weird Sylvia Costas and IPD Blue is doing the dishes.
Speaker 2: No one are work.
Speaker 6: Clothes, but I have an apron on and gloves, rubber gloves,
Speaker 6: rubber gloves. And that's when he proposes, Oh there to
Speaker 6: get and it's it's so sweet that domestic life that
Speaker 6: we all relate to you, no matter how nice our
Speaker 6: kitchen is yeah, what we'd say a palace or a
Speaker 6: galley that just speaks to something in our culture.
Speaker 4: It's such a lovely moment for Brook two because just
Speaker 4: the season that she's in of exploring totally new parts
Speaker 4: of herself, her personality, like, Okay, I'm I'm going to
Speaker 4: branch out and do something very different. I love Julian
Speaker 4: in this too, the way he just sort of stays
Speaker 4: out of your way and gives you the space to explore.
Speaker 4: There was something about fluffy salad another line he threw over.
Speaker 3: His shoulder that I love.
Speaker 4: I love this whole back and forth. But jello salad,
Speaker 4: fluffy salad, and ambrosia, which are all the same thing,
Speaker 4: maybe the same thing. Maybe they're not, Sharon, I don't know.
Speaker 4: You're southern, tell us is there resolutely?
Speaker 6: Are they involved canned fruit? Typically, if you're going to
Speaker 6: make it, it's it's usually canned fruit that you've drained
Speaker 6: some of the syrup off of if you don't want
Speaker 6: it as sweet.
Speaker 2: And jello and cool it.
Speaker 6: And you know, another reason I said yes to the
Speaker 6: offer to do Auntrey Hill is because I'm from North Carolina.
Speaker 6: I got to go home for three months because that's
Speaker 6: pretty much how long I was in the show and
Speaker 6: be on the coast, and I know, as we say,
Speaker 6: sort of white trash Southern.
Speaker 2: Food, and that's.
Speaker 6: And it's because it is accessible your ingredients that you
Speaker 6: can keep in your pantry.
Speaker 4: Is it regional whether you call it fluffy salad, yellow
Speaker 4: salad or ambro.
Speaker 7: Let's let's not also forget that it's also called pink
Speaker 7: Charlene by Skills, who is making green and green stuff,
Speaker 7: you see green stid of the way that runner is
Speaker 7: so freaking funny that green stuff is like the panacea
Speaker 7: for everyone.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that you hit me with it, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: is that a money joke? Like it's such a good
Speaker 3: this this this regional thing. Which then it also is
Speaker 3: interesting because to your point, Sharon, it's it's a Southern
Speaker 3: commonality in a kitchen, but every family has their own
Speaker 3: nicknames for things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where does that come from?
Speaker 3: I just think it's a really sweet runner about what
Speaker 3: everybody does. And of course Victoria is going to call
Speaker 3: it ambrosia because it's fancy.
Speaker 4: Well we called it ambrosia in Jersey, but in Texas
Speaker 4: it was fluffy salad. But I don't know in North Carolina,
Speaker 4: it's jello salad here. Just that last thing is giving.
Speaker 4: Somebody brought green stuff jello salad and nobody called it
Speaker 4: fluffy salad or no.
Speaker 3: People in California say jealous out.
Speaker 6: Well, you can also make a jellow mold with the
Speaker 6: fruit in it that doesn't have the cool web, so
Speaker 6: it's not it's the bright green, like, yeah, he is
Speaker 6: beautiful green sweater today rather than the light green, which
Speaker 6: is because you've added.
Speaker 4: What did you grow up calling it sharon ambrosia?
Speaker 6: If that had the whipped cream, it was ambrosia because
Speaker 6: it's ambrosia, right, That whipped cream makes it more. It's
Speaker 6: it's just lighter, that genteel, genteel. And I'd like to
Speaker 6: think that pig Charlene was also what Skills was thinking
Speaker 6: of Sylvia because read.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with this.
Speaker 2: It's flirtation, which hilarious.
Speaker 3: So good, and all the boys lined up to play cornhole.
Speaker 3: So when he walks in and sees you and you
Speaker 3: guys are throwing the looks and Julian's like what. All
Speaker 3: the boys are like, oh yeah, he's he's done this before.
Speaker 4: And I never realized, like until that moment, how badly
Speaker 4: I really really wished Barbara had been there too, because
Speaker 4: we needed way more scenes with the three of you guys.
Speaker 4: Where is Deb by the way, when was the last
Speaker 4: time we saw her? Did she go somewhere?
Speaker 5: I don't know she's been gone for her.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like we've seen her in this season?
Speaker 2: Have we no?
Speaker 3: When was literally?
Speaker 4: When was the last time we saw Deb?
Speaker 5: Have we seen Dan yet this season?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Definitely not all right?
Speaker 4: So that was weird. That's weird.
Speaker 2: Do you get Gregory Harrison?
Speaker 6: You get Paul finally getting to act with greg because
Speaker 6: we are friends from way back and friends again for
Speaker 6: environmental stuff Hell the Bay, which well know my passion
Speaker 6: for here in California, but we just water an ocean
Speaker 6: conservation in general, And how he and Treat were Treat Williams,
Speaker 6: who played Rob and my Father, I mean Rob and
Speaker 6: my and I and the Christmas House movies.
Speaker 2: They were friends so so great.
Speaker 6: They talked about each other, you know, yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 6: was so sweet.
Speaker 4: Do you guys want to go in order of the
Speaker 4: episode because the next stuff we have is like Chase, Yes.
Speaker 7: Let's get into that because I want to I gotta
Speaker 7: say that is. I was surprised at how invested and
Speaker 7: entertained I was watching Chase be by myself in an
Speaker 7: empty bar, ye being himself entertained. Yeah, he was so good,
Speaker 7: So I was curious, like, I was that fun to shoot?
Speaker 5: I mean, did you did you just sort of let
Speaker 5: him rip?
Speaker 4: How was that so fun?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It was so fun. A lot of this episode what
Speaker 4: I prefer to do as an actor and what I
Speaker 4: hoped that you guys enjoyed was I'd like to just
Speaker 4: show up up and say, like, where do you guys
Speaker 4: want to be, Like, tell me where you want to
Speaker 4: be in the room, and then we'll put lights up
Speaker 4: and if something is going to really make life complicated,
Speaker 4: then I'll tell you. But otherwise, like, let's just do
Speaker 4: this a few times and see where everybody ends up.
Speaker 3: So with.
Speaker 4: Steven, because it was just him, it was really fun
Speaker 4: to just be able to say, like, we have to
Speaker 4: make each moment here a little bit different so it's
Speaker 4: not just the same thing over and over. And obviously
Speaker 4: there was some written in, but he is so reliable
Speaker 4: as an actor to know that he's not going to
Speaker 4: do a shtick or a bit. He's not looking for
Speaker 4: the laugh He's not a needy actor, so when the
Speaker 4: camera's on him, he's just in the moment and doing
Speaker 4: whatever he's feeling, and it all pops out. To me,
Speaker 4: it was like, just put the camera on him and
Speaker 4: let him go, and he showed up.
Speaker 3: He turned up.
Speaker 4: The amount of dust on the bottle that he pulls
Speaker 4: down from that shelf was like somebody did drywall work
Speaker 4: on the ceiling of the bar and it only fell
Speaker 4: on that bottle. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 7: It was like he unearthed a relic in Indiana Jones
Speaker 7: in the temple.
Speaker 5: It was like it was the oldest I've met. It
Speaker 5: was a comedic amount of dust.
Speaker 7: And what's hilarious is you can see everything else around
Speaker 7: the bottle is perfectly clean. It was like he picked
Speaker 7: up a bottle from fifteen twenty five, yes, and brought
Speaker 7: it back.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was so much dust.
Speaker 4: It has to be my fault. I just don't know
Speaker 4: what I said, Like maybe because I was watching on
Speaker 4: the monitor and the monitor's so small, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I can't see the dust. This is what I feel like.
Speaker 4: Probably happened is that I was like, I can't see
Speaker 4: the dust. Can we add more, and I just didn't
Speaker 4: understand that I was going to see a lot more because.
Speaker 3: Now we're watching it all in the updated four K
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, oh goodness, it has to be
Speaker 3: my fault.
Speaker 2: Oh God, Peter Kowawska, he didn't stop you.
Speaker 4: He might have.
Speaker 3: He might have tried.
Speaker 4: I also might have just been like, no, because I want.
Speaker 3: To stop about ball.
Speaker 4: Pete's also so sincere and supportive that, you know, if
Speaker 4: I had been excited about this thing with the dust,
Speaker 4: he might have just been like, just give him more dust. Whatever.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I kind of loved it. It gave me that
Speaker 3: that vibe of like an extinct spirit, you know, something
Speaker 3: that was really important and to your point, watching Stephen
Speaker 3: is so fun, and it it gave me you know,
Speaker 3: when you look at your friends and you have those
Speaker 3: sort of out of body moments where you're like, God,
Speaker 3: I'm so proud. And I don't mean that to be annoying.
Speaker 3: I'm not like your mom. But I remember how nervous
Speaker 3: Stephen was when we first started working together in the
Speaker 3: clean teen storyline. Yes, I mean just there were things
Speaker 3: that terrified him, and he was such a sweet addition
Speaker 3: to our little crew. And you know, we all had
Speaker 3: the best time together. And I had this weird out
Speaker 3: of body experience when he committed to that turkey walk
Speaker 3: and gobble in this sequence, and I was like, look
Speaker 3: at this kid. He's so in his body, he's so
Speaker 3: at ease, He's leaning into every joke and just being free.
Speaker 4: And I was like, God, this is really this is.
Speaker 3: So cool, Like we literally grew up together. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: just love it.
Speaker 4: He learned so much and he grew so much, and
Speaker 4: it was really fun to watch him in this episode.
Speaker 2: That vocal gobble that he did with.
Speaker 4: Tim McKinney standing behind him.
Speaker 2: Beyond very impressed.
Speaker 5: Steven is a man of many talents.
Speaker 4: I just love that Nicky thought of having a bartender
Speaker 4: on Thanksgiving be so bored. First of all, why is
Speaker 4: trick open on Thanksgiving? It's another story, I guess, but why.
Speaker 4: But the fact that she thought of having a bartender
Speaker 4: come up with Thanksgiving drink meals in a glass like
Speaker 4: drinks in a glass, Yeah, feels a glass. This does stuffing,
Speaker 4: eh unrare.
Speaker 3: There is a little beat and you almost missed it,
Speaker 3: but it came out of the Millie, Marvin and Skills
Speaker 3: storyline where mouth alludes to the fact that Chase isn't
Speaker 3: coming because he wanted people who were alone on Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: to have somewhere to go, which is so sweet because
Speaker 3: it gives you this button of like, oh that's really nice.
Speaker 3: You know. He just is he's newly single and sad,
Speaker 3: his heart's broken. He's going to go open the bar
Speaker 3: for the other lonely folks, and then it's just him.
Speaker 3: It's like it's such a hat on a hat in
Speaker 3: a good way of the fact that Chase is literally
Speaker 3: the only person who is alone right now.
Speaker 4: And then literally the one guy that shows up who
Speaker 4: walks right back to Tim McKinney was our He was
Speaker 4: one of our stunt coordinators, right or like the facts
Speaker 4: effects thank you. Yeah, oh my gosh. I mean what
Speaker 4: a what a good old boy. And it was really
Speaker 4: fun having him and he's one of them got to
Speaker 4: talk to. I was like death, He'd like real you know,
Speaker 4: royal South Southern, and I loved that he'd never been
Speaker 4: on camera before. He just walked in. It started him
Speaker 4: and the fact that this is the lonely guy in
Speaker 4: town who's like, I'm not even I'm not lonely enough
Speaker 4: for this. Yeah, come out, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, never mind. I also fun fact about Tim just
Speaker 3: the sweetest man who was the one who taught us
Speaker 3: all about every sort of North Carolina wildlife, from like
Speaker 3: the weirdest and you know, the weird insects, to like
Speaker 3: the things you wanted to avoid in the water. He
Speaker 3: just was an encyclopedia of the local natural world. And
Speaker 3: Tim is the person who back then made me know
Speaker 3: that someday I wanted to become a beekeeper because Timmy
Speaker 3: used to bring his honey into work and I started
Speaker 3: picking his brain about beekeeping and he's the reason that
Speaker 3: I finally did it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 6: Sweet man who is the one who would bring moonshine,
Speaker 6: because I got some moonshine from what.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, we're not allowed to say scratch scratch that.
Speaker 3: I still have two jars, left chair and stilt.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 3: And people ask, they're like can I and I'm like,
Speaker 3: don't touch it, don't touch it. I'm hoarding the last
Speaker 3: of the supply.
Speaker 7: I like imagining the next time something so special and
Speaker 7: big happens in your life and everyone's sending you really
Speaker 7: expensive champagne and fine wines and like forty year old whiskeys,
Speaker 7: and they're like, what are you going to open? And
Speaker 7: You're like, I have a mason jar in my garage with.
Speaker 4: Some moonshine saving each Moonshow is it in the blue bottles?
Speaker 4: Like the little literally little water bottles.
Speaker 3: I have two of the small sized mason jars with
Speaker 3: the screwtops left, and one's blueberry and one's peach.
Speaker 2: I got that much. I was there for a few months.
Speaker 6: Is that like it came in a in a it
Speaker 6: was glass, Thank god, whatever it was, it was glass.
Speaker 2: He knew to do that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know something that I find I want to
Speaker 6: mention when you're talking about the natural world. One of
Speaker 6: the things that gave me such joy watching it again
Speaker 6: and made me remember about it because I've had a
Speaker 6: recent experience with it. That beautiful coastline, that Coastal Waterway
Speaker 6: football game happened that exterior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, piers and the taking.
Speaker 6: The trees with the moss on them. Then did we
Speaker 6: film it?
Speaker 2: Was it the fall or was that?
Speaker 4: I feel like it was u yeah, like late, like
Speaker 4: summer was headed out. I don't remember us being exceedingly
Speaker 4: warm that day. The weather was perfect. It couldn't have
Speaker 4: been better.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Victoria turned around when she was leaving prison
Speaker 2: and there were beautiful trees in their own foliage behind her.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, if you think about it, you know, we
Speaker 3: started shooting in July and like mid July, because it
Speaker 3: was always I always had to fly back, like the
Speaker 3: day after my birthday, so I'd travel usually the ninth,
Speaker 3: that we'd start on the tenth or eleventh. And then
Speaker 3: this episode aired November sixteenth, so you know, every week
Speaker 3: we got closer and closer to the air dates because
Speaker 3: we'd start airing in September, so I would think we
Speaker 3: filmed this mid September early October, and.
Speaker 7: Twodos to you, Joy, because that house and that property,
Speaker 7: Nathan and Haley's house was so stunning, and I feel
Speaker 7: like it was criminally underutilized. It was like, yes, we
Speaker 7: would get as far as the pool and never any farther.
Speaker 7: And I love that you did the steady cam walk
Speaker 7: and talk of Nathan and Haley where I believe they
Speaker 7: end up walking out onto the docks, so you really
Speaker 7: get the full scope of how big and beautiful that
Speaker 7: yard is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, thanks, There was so much that we because
Speaker 4: it was a stacked episode with so many people as
Speaker 4: often as I could rope shots into yeah, like as
Speaker 4: much as I could put into a condensed moment, like
Speaker 4: one steady cam shot, like even the opening with the
Speaker 4: plates on the table and everything. I was like, we
Speaker 4: just have to do this in one we don't have
Speaker 4: time for everything else. Yeah, because it was it was
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: But it was such a cool way to Rob's point,
Speaker 3: you had to be efficient because you know, shooting a
Speaker 3: football game is a nightmare, but that walk and talk
Speaker 3: used the space and one of the kind of gags
Speaker 3: of you know, a show like ours, Nathan and Haley's house,
Speaker 3: including the pool for our friends at home, was built
Speaker 3: on stage. Yeah. So so often when we filmed on
Speaker 3: their patio, you never saw the yard because we weren't there.
Speaker 3: We had to rent that house and move the family
Speaker 3: out into a hotel every time we filmed there. So
Speaker 3: the fact that we had probably I don't know, four
Speaker 3: or five days out side meant we actually got to
Speaker 3: see it. And it really is, you know, to your point, Sharon.
Speaker 6: It's so.
Speaker 3: Breathtaking and that golden light that starts in the fall
Speaker 3: and the water behind everyone. I mean, there's a shot
Speaker 3: on Kate Vogel and you know her and Jana are
Speaker 3: fighting as Mia and Alex, and I know I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to be caught up in the drama, and I'm just like, wow,
Speaker 3: look at the water behind her shoes.
Speaker 4: We're just look at look at the look at the lawn.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, stop stop doing that.
Speaker 3: Rewind and watch the scene. But I got lost in it.
Speaker 4: Our show was so much about the town like that.
Speaker 4: Wilmington really was a character in the in the story
Speaker 4: when we started, and you know, eight seasons in, I think,
Speaker 4: and we had so many directors that would come in
Speaker 4: and they were doing there, they were doing good work,
Speaker 4: but it was all focused on us and the so
Speaker 4: much interior stuff. And I think that, Uh, I'm just
Speaker 4: really glad any chance that we got to spend time
Speaker 4: outside on camera in Wilmington, because I missed it. I
Speaker 4: missed the town as a character. And I didn't realize
Speaker 4: how much we had been missing it until you see
Speaker 4: it in all its glory in episodes like this and
Speaker 4: Yeah and some others that I think are coming up.
Speaker 6: Well, it's all that you got that many good days
Speaker 6: of weather in a row that you could kept on,
Speaker 6: you know, because the weather's men and the storms and
Speaker 6: the rain will come up. So you have you were
Speaker 6: blessed by the directing gods, as you should be. And
Speaker 6: I'm going to take this moment right now to say
Speaker 6: that you should have started with congratulations to all of
Speaker 6: you for your interest in directing in film is made.
Speaker 2: How I was.
Speaker 6: So proud to know that you all, that I got
Speaker 6: to work with you Sophia as a director in the
Speaker 6: Halloween episode, and of course you because my work with
Speaker 6: women in film years earlier was all about that happening.
Speaker 6: So I just shouted out that the show, the show
Speaker 6: delivered on what our my generation of women was really
Speaker 6: working for and hoping for.
Speaker 2: We see the results and you all did us proud.
Speaker 2: So thank you Jans.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 5: Thank you all right, King, here's the deal.
Speaker 7: Uh, you don't get National Treasure Sharon Lawrence and not
Speaker 7: talk for hours on end, which is exactly what we did.
Speaker 7: So we're going to cap this off here and come
Speaker 7: back for another episode chalk full of Sharon Lawrence, grace,
Speaker 7: behind the scenes stories and all kinds of goodness.
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