1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, y'all. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,239 Speaker 2: This week, I am starting off by reading two definitions, 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: because I do think that words mean things, and it's 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: very important to define the topic at hand today. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: So we're going to start with the first. 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Definition of patriarchy a system of society or government in 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: which men hold the power and women are largely excluded 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: from it. The second definition a social system in which 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: men typically hold authority and responsibility while also excluding women 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: from it. Now we're here to have the conversation. I'm 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 2: joined by some very opinionated friends today. However, I want 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: to let y'all know my take on this because where 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: I think we stand with the patriarchy is that it 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: needs to be thrown out of the window. It is 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: an outdated means of a relationship in how we interact 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: with each other. 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: Because yes, yes, yes, we are kind of. 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: More fifty to fifty than when we want to believe. 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: No, we're not talking splitting bills, we're not talking about 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: who pays for the first date. But I do believe 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: that in the dynamics of men women that we are 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: more equally yoked then we're not. And I do think 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: that the patriarchy and trying to uphold it does nothing 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: for either gender. 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: Let's be very clear. 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: As men, you guys are still trying to figure out 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: a way to provide, yet. 28 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Get mad when women want you to provide. Make it 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: make sense. And then, as women, y'all, we want a 30 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: man who's emotionally available to us, right, emotionally intelligent, and 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: shows up for us while still demanding them to open 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: their wallets first. How can we ask for both? 33 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: I really think that we are living in a double 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: edged sword of society due to the patriarchy, and I 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: think that we should literally get. 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: Rid of it. Now. 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm here with three guests. I do have a woman 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: helping me, although I don't think she's gonna help me 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: very much because I don't like anything that she. 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: Has to say. 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: Nothings. 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: We have a passport Cuddy, who is a life and 43 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: dating coach and author of the m in Man Is 44 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 2: for Money also reloaded. 45 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Wait, and you have a woman's. 46 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Guide on how to handle men and money and dating 47 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: and relationships. You also have a mental health book as well. 48 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: Can we get the name of that because I don't 49 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: want to fuck that one up? Because he missed that 50 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: one in the. 51 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Goddamn beginning, This look at him, mending me, mending me, 52 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: which I have both of them. 53 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: All right. 54 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: We're also joined by used to be disruptor now social 55 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: commentator and also trap karaoke and panelists on Listen to 56 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: Black Men, which we are going to be doing today 57 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: on this podcast. 58 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: Mouse. 59 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: Mounce, Joan and then rounding it up, we have co 60 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: hosts of the Joe Butden podcast and real estate Guru. 61 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: Let's just go ahead and add that. 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: So don't we have issues joining us? 63 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: And again we're gonna be holding the conversation as well 64 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: as do we still got miked up over. 65 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 3: There in my producers? 66 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: All right? 67 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: Well, ay King, I don't think is fully on a MICU, 68 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: but we. 69 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: Have Jason over there. 70 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Hey, yo, sorry, you'll chill out. 71 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: Let's we're not pausing out. 72 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: We are not pausing out the gig. 73 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: So, guys, based on my kind of hot takes and 74 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: where we stand on all of this, do we have 75 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: any pushback or where we don't? 76 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: I have a question? Okay, here we go. Did the 77 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 3: emotional has to do with the financial? Oh? 78 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a I think there's a huge planet, 79 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: like to me and me an example of like how 80 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: you don't expect one if you need other. I mean 81 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: the example right now is that I'd rather cry in 82 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: a Rose Royce than a Honda. We literally have the 83 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: narrative right now that women are willing to put up 84 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: with a lot more. 85 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: Bullshit if they have provided a certain lifestyle. If a 86 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: man is paying all the bills, they'll put up with 87 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: a lot more lack of emotional intelligence from their man 88 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: or needs from them because he's showing up provisionally with 89 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: with finances. 90 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: Oh, because I took it the wrong way. 91 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I thought you were saying that we can't expect them 92 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: to have like emotions and want them to pay for stuff. 93 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be honest with you. I think a lot 94 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: of men if they lead with their money. Bitch, you 95 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: go find your friends show. 96 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. 97 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 6: I think together y'all are certain the same thing I 98 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 6: was asking. I don't know, but I think even in 99 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,559 Speaker 6: that is she's saying. 100 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: That, what do you disagree? 101 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 7: I don't. 102 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: I've discussed the chapter one man and the man is 103 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: for money. 104 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: I want somebody who's emotionally available and spend some money. 105 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Have you gotten both? And now in my because that's 106 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: who I'm choosing, But not before, because I wasn't. 107 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: I didn't care. 108 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: Do you do you? 109 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: Uh? 110 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 6: Do you nurture a space for someone to be emotionally 111 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 6: available while. 112 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: Handout? Well, I don't even care about the handout part. 113 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 6: Like when you when you have a demand for someone 114 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 6: to be emotionally available, that means you have to be 115 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 6: responsible for their emotional availability. So are you in a 116 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 6: lot of times? I won't to say a lot of 117 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 6: times because that's a crazy statement, even though we're here 118 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 6: for hot take, like I want to say, a lot 119 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 6: of times, I have noticed that sometimes women will ask 120 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 6: for emotional available an emotional available man who won't create 121 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 6: a space or won't maintain a space, right, it's not 122 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 6: your job to create it, but it is your job 123 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 6: to maintain a space for emotional availability. 124 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: So if you're not. 125 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: Doing well, what that looks like for everybody you know? Personally? Me, 126 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I do. I never really had guys 127 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: tell me that I don't, if anything. That's how they've 128 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: always like gotten so deep with me because I do 129 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: like I'm digging into you, I'm I'm pulling back the layers. 130 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: I'm very very deep. 131 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: So gods fall in love with that, and that's how 132 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: we actually get the money. 133 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: Well exactly, because now they really. 134 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: Come with me. 135 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 8: It's not a money issue at that point. Yeah, right, 136 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 8: Like if you created. 137 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: I deserve it then like once I only you're just 138 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: not here for it. 139 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like, I think that, 140 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 4: like my stances on the money things are a little 141 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: different than most people because you got a lot minimum, 142 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: very minimal. Yop. 143 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 9: I'm not spending money on women. That's not my thing. 144 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 9: I think that, like, to what level? 145 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: What will we if we reach a certain place? If 146 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: we reach I. 147 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 8: Don't spend. 148 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: We reach. I got myself a ticket to this movie. 149 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: I'm waiting for you to. 150 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 9: If we reach a certain place, the sky's the limit. 151 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 9: But I'm not starting out conversations. I'm not starting out friendships. 152 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 9: I'm not starting out any level of entanglements with But 153 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 9: does that. 154 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: Look like Okay, I meet you, we start dealing with 155 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: each other. I'll pay for us going on dates, but 156 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm not giving you money to get your hair done. 157 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: I'm not giving you money for friendship in place. 158 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 6: But if date in part and stuff, you'll pay for yes, Okay, 159 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 6: so we'll court somebody, but you're not gonna pay for 160 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 6: the companions. 161 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 9: Women today will be like, yo, I gotta get a babysitter. 162 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 9: You gotta pay for my babysitter, and they put a 163 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 9: premium on that. 164 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the thing. 165 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean you and you think that's wrong that you 166 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: want like that. You're not that a woman is even. 167 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: Asking that place. Yes, we are in a place where 168 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: I shouldn't have to pay you to date you. I 169 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: should so listen if we are. And this is where 170 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: we get into all of the mishap. 171 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 9: We have over valued part in my French, pussy is 172 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 9: worth more than dick in society and worth have because 173 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 9: women put a premium on their pussy price. We ain't 174 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 9: getting paid for dick women. 175 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like there was a time where I. 176 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: Wasn't on Amazon. Boy, you were silly on the purses. 177 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: All right, you paid for the dick. 178 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 8: She paid for it. 179 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: She definitely paid. 180 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 181 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: We disagree with him? 182 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Okay, No, I disagree one thing, and I don't know, 183 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I might be kind of agreeing with you, but not really. 184 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: I always joke and say that. 185 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: I have penis MV right because I say that men 186 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: could live for free and women cannot, Like men will 187 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: literally be able to go live at a woman's crib 188 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: drive you. No, no, no, I'm not saying that. 189 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: There was a woman that California just looked up. 190 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 4: Nobody in the greed. 191 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: The crazy thing is men can do it and get 192 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: all of the perks and not even be heaving. 193 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, but we know men who men will do that. 194 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 6: So what I will acknowledge is, yes, the men can 195 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 6: do that. There's a lot more work that goes into it, 196 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 6: and there's a definitive time date. There's a date because 197 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 6: a woman will get more, a woman will get annoyed 198 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 6: with a man not doing nothing, being a bump way 199 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: quicker than a man would even notice that a woman's being. 200 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. 201 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: If I lost everything today, didn't have no money, or 202 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: I was living with somebody that kicked me out, do 203 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you think that I have mad dudes that I could 204 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: go and live with for the for the rest of 205 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: the year, versus if the man can. 206 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 6: Do it for the rest of the year. It depends 207 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 6: what girls he does or does not even lie. It 208 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 6: depends on how you carry the first half of that 209 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 6: year all that. 210 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: It depends on what that mouth do. 211 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: Oh my, don't do a good job and that you 212 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: and that bad mouth on the side of the road. 213 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 9: Conversely for that dude, because there are people it's a meme. 214 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 9: It's memes running around Brooklyn or the Brooklyn or Nigga 215 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 9: and a Pennsylvania girl, okay, right, and they'll go find 216 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 9: no disrespect to anybody. The fight the fat white Arron 217 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 9: from Penncil and Homeboy will be shocked up. And Homeboy 218 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 9: got fourteen inch dick, eating cheerryalls all day, laying on 219 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 9: the couch the honey. But that's the trade off. He 220 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 9: not galify halle Berry, and halle Berry's taking him in. 221 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 9: I mean going to find somebody that he may not 222 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 9: be physically attracted to, he may not have anything in 223 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 9: common with, and he just a hobo section. 224 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: I think. 225 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: So you never heard the stereotype that the corporate women 226 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: always have the bums? 227 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: No, okay, well, I think I think that's what was 228 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 6: going on. I think we have to know it and 229 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 6: see it. 230 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: We gotta live. 231 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 6: We gotta live in the real world, That's what it is, right, 232 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 6: Like how many of these things are we experiencing? 233 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 8: How much of this is like hyperbole? Like in real life? 234 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 6: I think there's a middle ground between when we're all 235 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 6: talking them, and that's what we're asking me. 236 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: Let me get everyone's take then, before we jump into 237 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: the real world. Do you believe that we should uphold 238 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: or dismantle the patriarchy for what we know. 239 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 4: It to be? Believe you should wear a dresses like 240 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: this in ten years, I've never seen you wear you 241 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 4: know what you're trying to form and wear? 242 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: I think patriarchy talking. I hate patriarchy. Let me do. 243 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 6: Let me call him, yo, Can you just somewhere. 244 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: Land dressed like she called him? 245 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: The harlet? 246 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: The hart is here. 247 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna lie. 248 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: We're talking patriarchy and they're like, oh no. 249 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: Go put that another old go ahead and for. 250 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: The hose, we can come. 251 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: If y'all hold that home today. 252 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 6: Her patriarchal thought you she didn't want to cancel that. 253 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: So where do y'all stand? How you will start with? 254 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: You just give me do you want to uphold the 255 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: patriarchy and do you believe it's beneficial even today or 256 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: do you want to dismantle it? 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: M hm hm. 258 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: Definitions up there if you. 259 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Include like gender roles and stuff, believe in gender roles, 260 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: So you want to uphold the patriarchs. 261 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 6: You want, I'm gonna sound cheesy, man, He's like, I'm 262 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 6: a femininet keep away. 263 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: Or justin b. 264 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 8: All right, you can't throw it out because then the 265 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 8: world will crumble. 266 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: Damn. We just can't live without. 267 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 6: You know, we're not talking about men. We're talking about 268 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 6: the system in which patriarchy could. So there's women that 269 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 6: are in charge that uphold patriarchy, Like patriarchy is upheld 270 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 6: by just men. 271 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: It's a system. 272 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 7: It was. 273 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 6: It was indoctrinated and normalized by men, and then for 274 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 6: those who want to survive and thrive in it, they 275 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 6: take up a place, so they're Patriarchy today is probably 276 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: upheld more by people who don't identify with the four 277 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 6: founders and the foundationalist of patriarchy, but they want to 278 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 6: survive and thrive in it. So that's how you have 279 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 6: a all right, I'm being a good person, so I 280 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 6: want to I don't want to misgender them. That's how 281 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: you have someone like a Caitlyn Jenner running for the 282 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 6: you know, standing with the Republicans, standing behind Trump, who 283 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: fundamentally stands against everything that she exists as right, That's 284 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 6: how you have black men voting for Trump and just 285 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 6: having these like anti black theories. 286 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: And them not believing that a woman can so even 287 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: though there's been other countries. 288 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 6: So it's like, yeah, so patriarchy is upheld by more 289 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 6: than just men, more than just white men. Right, it's 290 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: also a system that has upheld America for since it's 291 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 6: since it's in doctrine. So tomorrow we can't open the 292 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,359 Speaker 6: door and be like, no more patriarchy. 293 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 8: It's impossible the world will you agree. 294 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 6: But there doesn't need to be some foundational changes to patriarchy, 295 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 6: some challenges. 296 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 3: So uphold, dismantle, uphold. 297 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 6: No, I'm torn, but I'll probably lean more toward tear 298 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 6: it down. Okay, but I'm torn because a lot of 299 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 6: people that'll say tear it down, they say tear it 300 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 6: down where it's beneficial for them, but uphold it where 301 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 6: it's beneficial for them. 302 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: So the same quest. 303 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 9: Quote feminists that preach all of the bullshit be the 304 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 9: same ones that say men should be providers. So you 305 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 9: can't say that we should tear this stuff down, and 306 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 9: I also have to provide for you because that provision 307 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 9: feeds into a system of patriarchy. 308 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: So I want to lean into there. Do we have 309 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: the hook of it all. 310 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: I mean, the hook is kind of patriarchy as a whole. 311 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: As a whole, so we can I would say, over 312 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: the last three to five years more than not, I 313 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: would say, with the Kevin Samuels, with the fresh and fits, 314 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: with the push of all of our voices on social media, 315 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: and you've got damn podcast mics. I think this conversation 316 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: has been one that seems to be regurgitated. 317 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Without much thought and not much practice. 318 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: I know, you know you coach and literally have calls 319 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: with women all day. They literally contradictor in our hypocrites 320 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: of what they do and kind of what they want. 321 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: I think for me, even listening to what you just said, 322 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: I actually am fully into the dismantling of it. 323 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: But from a privileged place I am. 324 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: Now four years ago. 325 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: I am in a privileged place as a woman to 326 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: be able to provide for myself and to not seek 327 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: financial security or shelter from a man, which in my 328 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: twenties having survival sex and only fucking with niggas that 329 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: I got money, and this from money or I wanted 330 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: a lot less from came from the place of me 331 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: not having money and through generations understanding that there can 332 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: be a price here and this is what can get 333 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: me into whatever, the patriarchal foundation of me being able 334 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: to exist as a woman. But now that I make 335 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: my own money, I love that I can choose a 336 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: partner and not need a partner. And I think that 337 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: that's been also the difficulty with communicating that with men, 338 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: because men still want to be needed. There's no way 339 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: that this world can exist without women needing men to lead. 340 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 6: Everyone specifically talking about brother Yeah, we're specifically talking about 341 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 6: patriarchy in the realm of dating. 342 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: I would say, I would say overall, like I do 343 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: believe like a woman can can run a business, but 344 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: I think there are better women leaders than Trump, who's 345 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: now president, because I think it's certain certain CEOs that 346 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: they women would be better at the job than men. 347 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: So we could go from business, but also yeah, in relationship, I. 348 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: Think you would This is completely you know, all due respect. 349 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 6: Do you think that you would have the platform you 350 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 6: as if patriarchy didn't exist. I mean, I think if 351 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 6: the patriarchy didn't exist, then women wouldn't be shown for 352 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 6: sexual practices, They wouldn't be started shuned for, you know, 353 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 6: wanting to explore our sexual practice so then there would 354 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 6: almost not be a need for a voice leg you know, yoursel. 355 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: The idea of us dismantling that and reclaiming that word 356 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: was a part of the foundational premise of starting horrible decisions. 357 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 2: I mean to be fair too, even our ideals on 358 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: what a relationship looks like in non monogamy. I think 359 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: you brought up even our founding fathers and what America 360 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: is built on. I think that's the huge problem, like 361 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: celebrating even Thanksgiving, it's just a whole bunch of colonizers 362 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: that were rebels from the UK that wanted to come 363 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: over and start. 364 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Their own shit and leaned into the Church. 365 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Which we know as as black people, was hypocritical in 366 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: the way they treated us. Yet they wanted you should 367 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: treat your neighbor how you would want to be treated. 368 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: They didn't treat black people that way. 369 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the way in which 370 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: we view marriage and relationship now is rooted in some 371 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: bullshit Christianity and Catholic views that I think are absolutely outdated. 372 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: And bullshit, because let's be very clear, everybody fucking now 373 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: before marriage, people are having kids out of wedlock, Like 374 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: there's all these other ways in which we excuse moving 375 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: away from the church, Well, then we still want to 376 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: lean into it for the patriarchal means of gender roles 377 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: and how we should But. 378 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: That's what I was saying. 379 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 6: Why, that's why I specifically right, because when we go 380 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 6: down that slope, you got to stop at every ring 381 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 6: to acknowledge you right. You can't just shoot down and 382 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 6: we're like, get ready, are gonna be better than women? No, 383 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 6: that's why I don't want to be that guy. But 384 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 6: like that's kind of right. There's so many webs and 385 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 6: there's so many branches that lean into everything. Everything you 386 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 6: just said was completely valid, but we gotta deal with 387 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 6: them one by one or will just be in. 388 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 4: A vacuum and as a physical component that you can't deny. 389 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: What's the physical component? Because y'all not building houses? 390 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 6: No more? 391 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: I got issues. Well, girls are doing the d Y 392 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: D I Y. 393 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I was about to say, nigga, we gotta call we 394 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: gotta call someumb tack because our boyfriends can't hang ourselves. 395 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: The Actually it's not sometimes it's not even the work part. 396 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: They would just be like thanks doing that. 397 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 6: I am him yo, So again, I'm but those are 398 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 6: the guys that you guys are picking. Yeah, right, so 399 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 6: also wrong with that? 400 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: Literally, don't say I'm just saying the nigga that make 401 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: five hundred thousand dollars a year, yeah, might not know 402 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: how to run cable. Yeah, you can't get everything, and 403 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: that's some of the things that you There's gonna be 404 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: some concessions. But back to my physical point. 405 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 9: My physical point was dog, when a nigga break in 406 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 9: your house at three in the morning, who gets up 407 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 9: to go downstairs? 408 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, I have a gun now because I live 409 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: in Georgia. 410 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: Who gets up to go downstairs? 411 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 9: When you laying in your badmaim You're not gonna tell 412 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 9: Keith to stay asleep, and you're gonna you're not You're. 413 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: Not gonna be too bready. So yeah, lor we're gonna 414 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: be pillow. I'm The part is that a lot of 415 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: us live alone, you know, like. 416 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 6: You laying in the bed with a man who is 417 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 6: by default. When y'all hear the clank and clinker clank downstairs, 418 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 6: who got to get the fuck up and go downstairs 419 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 6: and confront the burglar? 420 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: I want to go back though, to what Cuddy just 421 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: said the reality of it is too though, we are 422 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: paying our own bills and live alone. 423 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: So so we. 424 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Get man is there who gets up and goes the 425 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: answer though he's asking. 426 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: My desire is not to be getting robbed at gus boys. 427 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 9: And somebody's downstairs and they are breaking in your home. 428 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 9: By default, who the fuck has to go face the burglar? 429 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: That is the fault of y'all and the patriarchy. The 430 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: patriarchy said, it's y'all. The patriarchy said. The patriarchy said, 431 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: if there's a snake in the yard, the man has 432 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: to go kill it. The patriarchy of those things. But 433 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. 434 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: You don't have to if you a pussy. 435 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: If I date a nigga who might be a little 436 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: pussy and I'm not, and I got done, I think 437 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: that's where it's fine for me to go and and 438 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: shoot that. 439 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: Mind you, it could be a dating from time to time, 440 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: a little sweet. 441 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: You. 442 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 6: You're subscribing the patriot out. 443 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 4: You're calling him pussy, which. 444 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: Means you're identifying his lack of physical prowess and. 445 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: Of his character. 446 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 4: He's pussy. 447 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: Now, listen, you know what's you know? I think pussy 448 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: is the strongest. 449 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 4: Call that nigga pussy. You did not say if you're 450 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 4: that power he didn't. 451 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: That's one of them powering person You the valuable value. 452 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: You ain't about to go shoot that nigga. 453 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: You are in the world. You bring when that nigger 454 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: brand my ass in the club, lose my number, you 455 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: bitch ass nigga because you ain't do nothing. 456 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm just saying, well, I can't, guy, because why. 457 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: There Well no, That's why I also believe that people 458 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't play in sports that they just. 459 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 3: Defend this one. 460 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: I don't. 461 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 9: It's a power dynamic, and I think that the people 462 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 9: in power keep things status quo so that they can 463 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 9: remain in power. I think that's the same with patriarchy, racism, classicism, 464 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 9: so all of these other divisive things. And I think 465 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 9: that is just a power dynamic, and the people in 466 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 9: power keep these things like this on purpose. 467 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 6: But what I will say, bro, we have to get 468 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 6: to a point where the only way we can honestly 469 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 6: describe our value outside of an extreme hyperbole. 470 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: And somebody's coming in. I think I'm saying. 471 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 6: I'm saying, men gotta do better. That's what I'm saying. 472 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 6: We got to be better than our only value is yo. 473 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: But if a nigga come in the house, why are you. 474 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: Not all right? There's no threats in my life? 475 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: Can you still get you know. 476 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: What I'm saying conscious? 477 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 9: I'm saying that some of the things come from a 478 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 9: power dynamic, Right, there's a power dynamic because when women 479 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 9: say protect and provide. 480 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: Those are the two words that they damn. 481 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: Yes, But. 482 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: There's a point where may stop protecting and providing. I 483 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: don't think so. No one has to be there because. 484 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: Because I want to know, y'all take on this, because 485 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: this is kind of like I got two different opinions 486 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: from guys. 487 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: Right, So I took the express bus the other day. 488 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 3: This is the child patriarch I did, because you take 489 00:23:52,000 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 3: a bust of patriarchy. These press yes, okay, express book. 490 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: How did you know it was expressed? There's so many things. 491 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: It's a difference between a bus and express book. Oh, 492 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 4: an express charge no, listen, ghetto listen. 493 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: The seventy something dollars, grogers, all of that stuff. 494 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: I took my ass on the express bus, okay, I said, 495 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: I'll take an uber home. 496 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: Now, got on the bus. The bus driver was like, 497 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: you know, oh, I know. 498 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 4: Who you are. 499 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: You you ain't following me back something something something fast forward. 500 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, whatever, see him again. He's like, you 501 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: ain't follow me. I'm like, so you took the bus 502 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: to Yeah I did. God damn, I'm observing. 503 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: So fast forward. I checked my d M one day 504 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: and he says, can you fuck me? And I tell one. 505 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: Wants you want to. 506 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 6: Mind you? 507 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: Nigga said she was doing questions. It was like every 508 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: other girl that much, he should be able to tell 509 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 3: about my page. 510 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: But it's what I want to do. 511 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: On the New Yorker. I can take the bus. We 512 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: take the train. Yeah, so like I don't know, I 513 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: take the train, millionaire take train. Never seen millionaires get 514 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: in the bus. 515 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: Express better fucking bum ass trains. 516 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: Well, let me say that a conductor has never DM 517 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 4: me and said just jumping my ship. Ain't know how 518 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: you doing? Did you was fun? 519 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 10: No? 520 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: So my my response was I'm about to go hand 521 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: on this nigga right like I'm about to go crazy. 522 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: So one dude is like, you know, ready to go 523 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: to war? Like where he at? Like what time was that? 524 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: Like? 525 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: And the other and another guy said no, no, nah, 526 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: don't say nothing to him, and I'm like, hmmm, it 527 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: was It took me a fact that the guy was like, no, 528 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: don't say nothing to him, because I don't want you 529 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: to go too crazy on him and anything happening. 530 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: Why would that surprise you because she wanted war. 531 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: No, because first of all, that bare minimum my exit. 532 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: My response was gonna be like if I ever saw 533 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: him in here, like, don't you ever fucking talk to 534 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: me like that again, I will fucking get you fired, bitch, Like, 535 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: don't talk. I don't give a like, who the fuck 536 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: do you think I am? Like I was ready to 537 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: go crazy because why you dming me that? Like, I 538 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: don't give fuck if you've seen me on internet on 539 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: the bus, so I don't, I don't care. 540 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: I don't. 541 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: I didn't say more than like ten words to. 542 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 6: You in life. 543 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: Why are you talking to me like that? 544 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: So then the other guy telling me that I shouldn't 545 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: talk to him like that or I shouldn't say that 546 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: to him was the one who was like, don't you 547 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: know huh yeah, But I just kind of felt like 548 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: that can so you intelligence you like the man that also. 549 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: Don't do this. 550 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: For me, it was like it's not that I forgot 551 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: him to do anything. I just wanted to be able 552 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: to say what I wanted to say. 553 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 9: That emotional intelligent man tells you that this person is 554 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 9: not worth you, even raising your temperature over. 555 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: He also drives a bus that you're not going to 556 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: ever see. 557 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 9: And I think that's what I walk on a nigga's 558 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 9: bus and not even acknowledge that his existence and go 559 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 9: sit in my seat. 560 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: He can't get a conversation, a hello, and nothing from me. 561 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 6: I want to curse him out, but I think in 562 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 6: that moment, the second gentleman, he took your safety into 563 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 6: an account more than the first guy did. 564 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: All he brought up the emotional intelligence of that. But 565 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to bring it back to to mouse mouse. 566 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: You stated the men stopped protecting and providing. 567 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, when when it's mentioned. 568 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 6: So I think everything is a There's no issue in 569 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 6: this world that was created by just happenstance. 570 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 4: No, no one ever was just sitting in a room 571 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: and was like, yeah, let's do that right. There was 572 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: a there was a void, and someone decided to fill 573 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: the void. 574 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 6: Even you know, it's it's ugly, even when we talk 575 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 6: about the way the and I'm just breaking it down 576 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 6: to the most basic level. Even when we talk about 577 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 6: the the American version of slavery, right when we talk 578 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 6: about that Western civilization version of slavery, that the Atlantic 579 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 6: slave trade. The REASONA was so protesting ugly, there was 580 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 6: a need. Okay, we need to make money, we need 581 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 6: to get labor. 582 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: How do we do that. 583 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 8: Oh, let's take these people's liberty. Are going to beat 584 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 8: them into right, right. 585 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: So I say that to so I start that a 586 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: little bit of that too, I started I started. 587 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: Out that ugly to just break it down. 588 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 6: The fact that we see women constantly talking about, uh, 589 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 6: the lack of protection, demanding protection, demanded provision. 590 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 8: There was a time where somebody stopped protecting the probiden both. 591 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: So throughout this progression, I think that women have become 592 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: more masculine out of hear me out, dog, you're gonna 593 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: agree with me. And masculinity is not a bad thing. 594 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 9: Every man, every woman has a level of masculinity and 595 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 9: a level of femininity in them. Women have had to 596 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 9: become hyper masculine because black men are leaving their households 597 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 9: to fit for themselves. 598 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's the where you're taking this. 599 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 9: So to your point, avoid is now there yeacause men 600 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 9: are leaving their households, and now women have no choice 601 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 9: but to generate more money and do all of these 602 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 9: other things. 603 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: Take out the garbage, fix the ceiling fan, do all 604 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: the shit that was traditionally men shit. 605 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 9: Women have no choice but to do it because now 606 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 9: they are single and they're raising children, et cetera, E. T. 607 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 9: And then those daughters and those sons, though especially the 608 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 9: daughters follow suit and say, I saw my mother struggle. 609 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 9: I saw my mother struggle, and I saw what she 610 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 9: went through. I'm never gonna need no man. And that's 611 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 9: where that quote comes from. I don't need no man 612 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 9: because I saw my mother did so. Now I'm get 613 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 9: seventy seven degrees all of this ship so that financially 614 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 9: I never have to quote unquote need a man. 615 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that it's about son. I agree with 616 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: that A percentage of it is not that I don't 617 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: need it. I never experienced it. 618 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: I don't know true that. 619 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 9: I was going to dress Mouse's point. I think that 620 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 9: men have never stopped providing and protecting. I think that, 621 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 9: especially in our demo, in our community, we stop getting married. 622 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 9: You don't see a man that's married not protect his family. 623 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 9: You don't see a man that's married not really provide 624 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 9: for his family. And we generally speaking, I'm not talking 625 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 9: about capable. 626 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: Is still in his capability or not? 627 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 4: But again, I don't think that. I don't think that. 628 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, meaning like to him, it's up 629 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: to him. 630 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 8: And right, so we're capable, he's capability. 631 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what you're saying about. Not even that. Listen 632 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 4: to this. I don't know. And you guys, I don't 633 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: want to talk about the outliers because we can find 634 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: something that contradicts everything. What I'm talking about is generally speaking, 635 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: a man a woman of family. That man is just 636 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: not out here saying yo, fuck that, I ain't doing nothing. 637 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 4: So you know what's that is a very small amount. 638 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: So I would say I have a lot of friends, 639 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: I have a lot of family members. 640 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: I have sisters of all of my friends right now 641 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: with babies ranging from less than a year to seventeen. 642 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: They are getting zero help from their fathers financially. 643 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: Still do they live in the household. But so this 644 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 4: is my point was the people that live with their 645 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: family are not. 646 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 6: They're not he said, what he's basically saying, is no 647 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 6: niggas sitting in that house watching his family go under 648 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 6: He saying no niggas. 649 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: He's saying that out do we know that those are 650 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: the outliers? 651 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 8: When that's what we because you have a majority. That's 652 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 8: not to jug about the numbers. 653 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying, like, how do we know 654 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 6: what is most of friends husbands don't do ship? 655 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: Well, let her not talk about her friends. 656 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: You have to know she said, let's say out of 657 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: five out of five friends who are married, let's say four, 658 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: three or four of the five, the woman is the breadwinner. 659 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: That's a country. That doesn't mean that the. 660 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: Not doing that either. 661 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: And that's how your. 662 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 9: Classic provision now is just who makes the most money 663 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 9: is the biggest provider. 664 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: And that's not true. No, no, that's not true, d CEO. 665 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 9: Women, they got missed the mom at home that's doing 666 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 9: the homework with the kids, they fucking cooking for the kids, 667 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 9: they're driving the kids to soccer practice and balance the things. 668 00:32:51,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 11: That is provision and good giding you with a sexual pleasure. 669 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 11: Y'all think pussy is provision. Y'all think when y'all give 670 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 11: a nigga pussy y'all providing something for him. 671 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: Well, okay, no, no, no, do you. 672 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: Want to know the problem with that. 673 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: It's literally where we place what we want, like men 674 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: will do whatever they need to do to get pussy. 675 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: It's modern day prostitution and relationships because there's. 676 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: Probable prostitution because there's a negative connotation to it. There 677 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: is negative annotations. 678 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: You're talking about cont he's grown in this room. 679 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: So in context, men cannot be mad when women place 680 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: this value on on a vagina when men are nobody. 681 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: That's a I think it's transaction. That's that prostitution. Nobody 682 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 4: ever said it's a bad thing. I said, men are providing. 683 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 5: This is not. 684 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: I want to. 685 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 9: Have you come home after a long day's work and 686 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 9: that man rubs your feet to you damn near fall asleep. 687 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: He's providing something for you. That is a provision. What 688 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 4: are you talking about? Rubs your back, if he runs 689 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: your bath water, he puts the rose pedals in thesce, 690 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: that's provision. 691 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I had, but from a narcissist. 692 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: So what I'm telling you is we are provider y. 693 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 12: A lot of the biggest providers, and they are narcissistic 694 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 12: because I'm providing the X y Z bitch. 695 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 4: You do what I said. 696 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 3: I ain't never in the bathtub with the rose petals. Now, 697 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: I ain't got. 698 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 4: Get that express back to what I'm saying, like, Yo, 699 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: we keep putting the money. 700 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 9: Piece in our culture. Yo, the money piece is dominating relationships. Unfortunately, Okay, 701 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 9: we got. 702 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: That's because one horse in America hold on money by happiness. 703 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 6: We have to out there right there, right like when 704 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 6: we say like these blanket terms like oh this is ruinal, 705 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 6: it's not it is it is control. What it is 706 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 6: is it's controlling a portion of culture that lives specifically online, 707 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 6: that interacts online. There's a lot of people that have 708 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 6: like funny tweets, are engaging our like in throwing tweets, 709 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 6: that don't live that life. So it's like, you know, 710 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 6: it's the I would liken it to the theory to 711 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 6: the example of where women tweet I hate men, you know. 712 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. 713 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 6: So what I'm saying is it's I don't think that's 714 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 6: the showing our culture because you have to what we 715 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 6: have to buy by is something that's irrefutable, and numbers 716 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 6: are irrefutable, and in America, black families are still thriving. 717 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 8: Black men are still marrying women at a rate of 718 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 8: eighty percent. 719 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 6: Black men that make over five two hundred and fifty 720 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 6: thousand are still marrying black women. 721 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 3: Their numbers are still like these. 722 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 4: Ain't never gonna do talk about But what does that 723 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: have to do? You know what I'm saying. 724 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 6: It doesn't affect the culture. No, I'm saying it affects 725 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 6: that just because you could talk about it on TV. 726 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 9: No why it's affecting the culture Because it may not 727 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 9: affect certain age demos. But now what's being led in 728 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 9: these twenty something year olds and these thirty year olds 729 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 9: is no romance without finance. That is damning something that 730 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 9: these younger yo. 731 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 4: When we was how do you I'm thirty five. See 732 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: it's different when I was young, right, young girl, I'm 733 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 4: forty eight. When I was younger, When I was younger, 734 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 4: your girls going to Poconose was a thing. Girls going 735 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: to the Virginia Beach was a thing. These twenty one 736 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: year old girls. 737 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 3: You'll gotta take a shot. 738 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: Twenty year olds, My nigga are going to Miconos. Yeah, 739 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 4: the twenty year olds are going to Bali and going 740 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 4: to all of these places, and the average twenty year 741 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 4: old boy cannot afford to do those things and provide 742 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 4: for them, so they're looking for that provision elsewhere, typically 743 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 4: in an older man. 744 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 3: Okay, what are we looking at? Here's I read black 745 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 3: men out of black men are married. 746 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you what he said? 747 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 3: It did if you go to the town to black women, 748 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 3: it's sweet. 749 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. 750 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: Like, that's what I'm saying. 751 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 752 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 6: So look, if you say about thirty thirty by black 753 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 6: men right now, if you look at that thirty now 754 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 6: you have to break down at thirty six percent. 755 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 4: Okay, we looked at thirty six percent. 756 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 8: All right, let's look at that one hundred percent of 757 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 8: the eighty and breaking. 758 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: This man are married. You know, say I'm married to 759 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 3: black women. That's what my take my ticket. 760 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 6: I stand on the side of I don't think it's 761 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 6: affecting culture. I think it's affecting conversation. Conversation that people 762 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 6: don't know how to say, oh. 763 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 4: This lives here, and this lives here. 764 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 9: You know what, two stats we missed up on the 765 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 9: spoor and I don't even got to look over there 766 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 9: no more today, only thirty five percent of black men 767 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 9: are married. 768 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that that I said, and it said it 769 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 4: I only represent thirteen percent of the don't I'm talking 770 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 4: about one hundred percent of black men. 771 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, make up in the matter of one hundred percent 772 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 9: of black men only today thirty five percent. 773 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 4: Of the saying you're not talking about in America. No, no, 774 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 4: I'm talking about not talking about the American population. I'm 775 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 4: talking about just the black population of America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, 776 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 4: that's right. 777 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 9: That's I was a nineteen when it say nineteen fifty, 778 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 9: sixty four percent of black men were married. 779 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 4: Nineteen it is affecting culture. Now, no, you're getting married. 780 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 4: I gotta challenge that because that's not that's an actual fact. 781 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 6: So in nineteen fifty, there were no Jim Crowlows yet, 782 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 6: there were these draconians, Rico cases were not drawn up yet, 783 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 6: these things that ravaged the black community throughout the nineteen. 784 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: It was Jim cron nineteen fifty. 785 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 6: No what Jim cronin, But it wasn't Jimo. The Jim 786 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 6: I'm telling Jim Crowloyd didn't come to a fact. I 787 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 6: think that was nineteen fifty. 788 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 3: Can we look up Jim Carolo what I say, there 789 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 3: are other things. 790 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 4: There are other things that affect that. 791 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 6: Right, So sixty four percent of black men that were 792 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 6: married in nineteen fifty, you have to adjust for the 793 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 6: fact that of that sixty four percent, thirty five percent 794 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 6: ain't alive. 795 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: When we get to twenty and nineteen to even be 796 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 4: or or the or the talking about the available population. 797 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: Know that, you know, there's no way this is my China. 798 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 8: There would be no way to accurately account for that. 799 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 6: They're just talking about the black men that obviously the 800 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 6: one that can poll right, the poll the men, the 801 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 6: ones that were available to be polled in nineteen fifty, 802 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 6: sixty four percent of them were married. How many of 803 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 6: that is coming right listen what I'm saying. How many 804 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 6: of that is coming right out of great migration? How 805 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 6: many of that's coming right out of this slavery being. 806 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 3: I don't even think. 807 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 6: I don't even Yeah, that's what I was about to 808 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 6: be like. I always think juneteenth were the thing. Yet, 809 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 6: but nineteen fifty there was. 810 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 4: Available black men in the black community. 811 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 6: When you get to nineteen seventy eight, that has already 812 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 6: changed because they had already started, uh in drafting up 813 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 6: these laws that are the drug law that unaffected that 814 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 6: I unequipped affect black men. So you're putting more black men, 815 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 6: you're a killing more black men. So you can't go 816 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 6: into the nineteen seventies. Hold on, I want to because 817 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 6: the seventies. 818 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 10: Before before point, but not only Mouse is making good point, 819 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 10: but just for the education of our audience, Jim Cole 820 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 10: laws effectively ended in the nineteen sixties and then it 821 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 10: became probably more like policy things. 822 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: So I want to go back to. 823 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: Leaning back into leaning back into what a relationship entells. 824 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: If we're still leaning into the patriarchy in the nineteen 825 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 2: seventies as well, nineteen seventy four, women were able to 826 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: have their own big accounts. They started seeing positions, suite 827 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 2: positions within the. 828 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 3: Eighties and nineties. 829 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: No, if we look into where women then no longer 830 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: needed to live with a meant like a woman couldn't 831 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: even have a bank account without being married. And like 832 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: I said before, and if we are talking about our 833 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: own community, this is where I do believe there was 834 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: a huge push of men to be removed out of 835 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: the household with welfare and black. 836 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 3: Like what what is that was later on in the 837 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 3: nineties I'm going through the in the eighties and the nineties. 838 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 4: Why example, because I think so. 839 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 3: I know, I know. 840 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 4: A lot of no, a lot of my working picture 841 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 4: here right now. 842 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 3: If if they. 843 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: Came to your house and even saw the man a 844 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: man sized shoe, you no longer got section eight, You 845 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: no longer got. 846 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 3: The benefits of welcore if they knew that a man 847 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: was in the home. 848 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, right, so unfortunately men black men who may 849 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 2: not have no Black men who may not have been 850 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 2: getting hired due to their race, or due to their 851 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: criminal convictions, or due to their lack of education, they 852 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: weren't even providing. 853 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 3: So many women were leading into government. 854 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 2: Assistance to aid in their raising a family instead of 855 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: having a man in the house. 856 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 3: But what do we think that it is now? 857 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 8: Just from that, it's just those those issues were never healed. 858 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 4: We just time just kept going. 859 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 6: So like there so to say, like, what's the issue now, 860 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 6: the same issue that was going on in But do 861 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 6: I think there's also do I think there's also some 862 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 6: like willful ignorance that that men are saying I ain't 863 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 6: gonna do it, said I ain't gonna do that. I 864 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 6: think that exists as well, right, I don't think. I 865 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 6: know I'm gonna sound like the guy whose takes are 866 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 6: like men. 867 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 4: But it doesn't. 868 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 6: It doesn't exist on either extreme. Right, there's this place 869 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 6: in the middle that we got to get to. The 870 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 6: middle is the figure and that issue is a little 871 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 6: amalgamation of everything. Is an amalgamation from everything I was talking. 872 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 6: The issue about is what you're all talking about and 873 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 6: what I'm pretty sure you'll have experienced from it all 874 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 6: that ship. You get that in a million You're like, oh, 875 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 6: we gotta start unlacy ship, y'all want to unless we 876 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 6: throw a whole sneaker out. Right, if you got to 877 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 6: not in that sneaker, you could sit here and fix it, 878 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 6: unlace it, or you just throw the whole sneak out. 879 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 9: Of the biggest part, the biggest part of what he said, 880 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 9: and this is the biggest piece for all of the ship. 881 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 9: Nobody is willing to hold themselves accountable. 882 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 4: So when you said we got to start taking the 883 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 4: laces out the sneaker, that's a process of accountability and 884 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 4: self reflection to see where we fucked up at. 885 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 9: Of course, right, you know what we do We blame 886 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 9: the system. The system played a partner's being fucked up. 887 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 9: White people play the partners being fucked up. 888 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 3: So what Yeah, they did what they did. 889 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 9: We can't go to the white people that broke us 890 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 9: and expect for them to fix us. It's never gonna 891 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 9: fuck it happen. So now we got to look into 892 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 9: ourselves and say, these things are fucked up. I don't 893 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 9: care how they got fucked up, let's fix them. So 894 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 9: when you start talking about, well, fish it. That's why 895 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 9: I start to disagree you. 896 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: But I get it. 897 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: But and I do want to get into hypothetical mean 898 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: and hypothetical youth because I got a tweet from me too. 899 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: But but again, if we want to and I guess 900 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: this goes into you and I essentially wanting to overthrow 901 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: it or dismantle it. The problem is a lot of 902 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: this shit is rooted in what we've seen, how we've 903 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: grown up, and it takes a lot of deprogramming and 904 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: unlearning a lot of the things that unfortunately we weren't 905 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: so to reprogram. Which is why we see a lot 906 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: of the older women dating younger is because a lot 907 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: of the older men are stuck into their ways, and 908 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to teach an old dog new tricks, 909 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: and the younger generation is more open to non monogamy 910 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: changing the ways they think. 911 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 3: I can blame the pandemic and people sitting I can 912 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 3: blame the Internet. 913 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: We've been exposed to way more as a younger generation 914 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: to be open to actually changing the way. I do 915 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: want to get into hypothetical met hypothetical you a hypocritical 916 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: hypocritical not hypothetical topics. I almost couldn't even really read it. 917 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 3: Okay, hipocritical me, hypocritical you. 918 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 2: I pulled some sweets for this, none of surmouse Jones 919 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: because he is an outstanding citizen. 920 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 4: However, I touch. 921 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: On express bust on Twitter, so if you can scroll up, 922 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: this is this is my This is me responding to 923 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: a sweet shout out to her season. They said that 924 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: women will gamble on potential. Men need to see finished 925 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: products before we commit one moment. 926 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: So this was their take. 927 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 6: Somebody that doesn't believe what they say, somebody that wears 928 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 6: thirty thirty dollars worth of fake jewelry. 929 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 3: Ever, has to post I'm like, oh, y'all trust this 930 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 3: nigga that this is fake. We're not talking about your man, right, 931 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: That's what I love. 932 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 4: Right here this is my mouse jo exists. 933 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 8: All I do is just show you the problem before 934 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 8: you see the face the man up. 935 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 3: This is my man, this is my men. 936 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 4: My mean it's a total opposite. 937 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: Okay, I literally said in response to this, it sounds good, 938 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: but bullshit. Most men are actually intimidated by a woman. 939 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 3: Who is a finished product. 940 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: And I think when we talk about where we land 941 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 2: in the system of how we've been able to grow financially, 942 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: I think mentally, spiritually, emotionally, because we actually do the work. 943 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 6: We don't do that women I'm speaking, she put on 944 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 6: one law, she does the word, and they get. 945 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: I disagree with someone you said most men are intimidated 946 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: fully with this take that we gamble on potential, but 947 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: men need to see a finished product perform. I disagreed 948 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: to part where you said most men are intimidated by 949 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: women who So you. 950 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 3: Agree with me? So you do disagree with that? You 951 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 3: disagree with that. 952 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: I feel like you disagree with post these takes nosagree with. 953 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 4: I disagree with the entirety of this post. 954 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I disagree with that lighted on fire, no express, 955 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 3: bust and. 956 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 4: Drop, they don't stop. 957 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: I gotta be fair being someone who talks to successful 958 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: women all the time who are at the top of 959 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: their game and everything. They think men are intimidated by 960 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: them a lot of the times, but they're actually not. 961 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 3: They want men to be like it's like they's power. Yeah, 962 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 3: like they really want to swinging contests that. 963 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 6: Conversations in either well know you, no one would want 964 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 6: that conversation because what she is saying is a byproduct 965 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 6: of patriarchy. 966 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 4: But no, no, it's not reversed. But it is the 967 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 4: by product. This is what I'm saying. 968 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 6: It's the by product you put yourself in a position 969 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 6: and now you're now when that you're asked out, you 970 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 6: still have to maintain the bar that you imaginarily said. 971 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 3: Wait the woman or the man. 972 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 4: The men. 973 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 6: So that's why that So that's why women are acting 974 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 6: that way because typically the system says men are supposed 975 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 6: to do that. 976 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 4: So when you get a woman that's in that position. 977 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: They now want to be the man. 978 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 4: Want to raise it. 979 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 3: They want to raise that. 980 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they want the man to meet their ball imagined. 981 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 3: Can we talk talk We can talk talk about a 982 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 3: nigga never said that. 983 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 4: It says this one. 984 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 9: Women are making a ship ton of money. Yes, yes, 985 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 9: a lot of those same women. And this is two 986 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 9: things that education is doing, in my opinion, in corporate 987 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 9: is doing in my opinion. Okay, we are honoring degrees, right, 988 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 9: and we are honoring corporate promotions. 989 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 4: And so now when we start to get degrees. 990 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 9: Like people honored one hundred and forty thousand dollars a 991 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 9: year attorney over the three hundred and fifty thousand dollars 992 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 9: a year plumberm subconsciously. 993 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 10: We do that. 994 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 6: So now you're they're respecting the title more than the 995 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 6: actual and the degradation of the job, yes, or more 996 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 6: than the money, more than the because that job carries 997 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 6: a certain cachet. Right, it's surgeon us doctors out here 998 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 6: that might make one sixty My electrician could make one 999 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 6: sixty and four months. 1000 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 4: We don't give the electrician the same praise that we 1001 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 4: give the doctor. 1002 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: That's that's just the ways in which we view those 1003 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 2: quos because wait, no, because to me, no, because it's 1004 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: the same thing that we actually do with labels and relationships. Right, 1005 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 2: I could be in a healthy, long lasting partnership with 1006 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 2: someone I'm devalued as. 1007 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 4: A woman if I'm not a wife, if you're not married, 1008 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 4: if I'm. 1009 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: Not married only because of what we have placed on 1010 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 1: being a wife over being a girl with a partner. 1011 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 4: Cool. I'm not disagreeing with you, but let me finish right. 1012 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 9: So now, when you get these women that have these 1013 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 9: corporate jobs, they go to work and they talk down 1014 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 9: the motherfuckers every single day in their job, and then 1015 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 9: they come home and have friends that have addressed this 1016 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 9: with and when you come home, because you just spent 1017 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 9: the last and these are women that work ten and 1018 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 9: twelve hour days, like they not get working an eight 1019 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 9: hour day, So you are accustomed to talking. 1020 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 4: To people how you feel. And when you come home 1021 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 4: and your husband don't have a higher title than you, 1022 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 4: or don't make as much money as you, you are 1023 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 4: accustomed to feeling like he is beneath you because that's 1024 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 4: what you see every day at work. So now you 1025 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 4: make five Hundredship feel because of that love that very 1026 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 4: thing you said. Yet, like dog, she might make five 1027 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 4: hundred grand. You ain't no bump just because you don't 1028 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 4: make as much money as your woman. You ain't a bump. 1029 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 4: You might make one ad and she make five hundred. Yeah, 1030 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 4: she talks to the one eighty niggas like Ship, every 1031 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 4: day at work. She can't cut it off. When she 1032 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 4: reaches the threshold and turns the doorknob, she don't cut 1033 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 4: it off. But that's his fault. I mean, I didn't 1034 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 4: do that. 1035 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 9: Was because you're supposed to put your foot down in 1036 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 9: the very beginning of the relationship and set the standard. 1037 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 3: He put his foot down. 1038 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 9: But you know what will happen when he leaves that 1039 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 9: woman for her being disrespectful or for her not respecting him. 1040 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 9: She's gonna say he was intimidated by me because I 1041 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 9: made more money than him, and that cannot That might 1042 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 9: not be the case. 1043 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: I was he cheated on me with a homeless bitch. 1044 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 3: That's not about you. 1045 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 4: Homeless. 1046 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: Okay, she was unhoused, she was a counsel. 1047 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 4: Somebody. 1048 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: But this is another reason why, like you know, I'm 1049 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,919 Speaker 1: known for the book that M and Man is for money, 1050 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: and people think that that means like take a man's money, 1051 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: and you. 1052 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 9: Know, like, go, that's not what I got from the title, 1053 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 9: and the total opposite way that y'all only using these 1054 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 9: niggas and value and them based on how much money. 1055 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 3: No, that's not what it is either, But that's that 1056 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 3: what's in the book but just one of the people. 1057 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: One of One example that I always say that would 1058 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: work better is if you do make more money, that 1059 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: doesn't mean as a woman, right like as the woman. 1060 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: Just because I make more money doesn't mean that I'm 1061 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: going to pay more, right Because sometimes men truly do 1062 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: want to feel like there's still insecure men. 1063 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: Well, well there are insecure men though, So. 1064 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: I joke about this all the time. But men usually 1065 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: don't know how much money I have. Right, I will 1066 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: let them think that I'm. 1067 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 3: The brokens bitch in the world. 1068 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 5: I know. 1069 00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 3: I don't get me to think that. No sign. 1070 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: Wait, Hoddy, actually, can we falls on your tape real quick? 1071 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 3: Because I want to. 1072 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 2: I want to do hypocritical You on one of your tweets, 1073 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: and this one was from the last year or so, 1074 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 2: you said at some point you got to grow up. 1075 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 2: You're not finding the right person because you want people 1076 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 2: to prove they want you by kissing your ass and 1077 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 2: passing all your dumb ass tests you're putting them through. 1078 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: That doesn't translate well long term. 1079 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 4: You not the hand raise, especially to the dope niggas. Okay, 1080 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 4: dope niggas not jumping through your hoops, bitch, I'm dope. 1081 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 4: I got a million of you waiting for some attention. 1082 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 3: Million that. 1083 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 4: They won't say it, they'll feel it. They think they 1084 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 4: would feel it. 1085 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 6: I think they would be so far, I don't know, 1086 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 6: but it wouldn't. I think those type of people wouldn't 1087 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 6: even bypass you. So the type of people you're describing 1088 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 6: wouldn't even come across somebody the dope nigga you're discussing, 1089 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 6: because that you mean by dope nigga, what is. 1090 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 4: That whatever whatever assessment of the dope guy is. 1091 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: But here's my question to both of you, I mean 1092 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 1: to all three of you, because because essentially when you're dating, 1093 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: I know you called it dumb ass tests y'all do 1094 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: test the people you date to see how they would. 1095 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 3: Respond to. 1096 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: Not be a test, right, because the women that I 1097 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: speak to, they have this, Oh he needs to impress me, 1098 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: he needs to impress me. 1099 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 3: He needs to impress me. He needs to impress me. 1100 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 4: I are you impressive? But that too, I got fat ass. 1101 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 3: But this is the thing I don't do that I literally. 1102 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 4: Out of context. That is a crazy statements, not soundbody 1103 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 4: is crazy. I got a fat ass. 1104 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah that once you really know your value as a 1105 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 3: man or woman. Yeah you're not personal. Yeah you're not. 1106 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna subscribe to these things and you're 1107 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna be able to see them from them all away. Right, 1108 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: So if you know that somebody's testing you for something 1109 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: very frivolous and stupid, right, you're not either you're usually 1110 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: gonna reject it or kind of like try to prove 1111 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,479 Speaker 1: a point to them, like bitch out of here, nigga, 1112 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: and you know, like I'm. 1113 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 3: Not I'm not doing it, and these works. 1114 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 6: That's the problem about these like not you're exactly there's 1115 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 6: a problem with tweets and these things that are like 1116 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 6: so binary, right, because you're like beholden to them, and 1117 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 6: then you don't realize, like I keep saying, the minutia 1118 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 6: that between each and every single one of these characters, 1119 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 6: there's like actual milutia that you have to weave through, right, 1120 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 6: So like there's in theory. This sounds absolutely insane, but 1121 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 6: like we break it down and you're that's not good. No, 1122 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 6: you're describing. 1123 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: So like let's say, for example, a long time ago, 1124 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: I remember long and long time ago, I remember. 1125 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 3: Cutting a dude off because he didn't offer me at uber. 1126 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 4: This was I don't think that's a no. No, no, 1127 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 4: he don't think that's a problem you should have. 1128 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 3: That's what that. It was a long time ago. 1129 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 6: No. 1130 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 1: I had never done anything with him yet. Okay, but 1131 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: we were talking and he was trying to talk to me. 1132 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: I left work, went to dinner with my friend. They 1133 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: cut the train off. We stayed at the restaurant for 1134 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: too long. Cut the train off, and he texted me 1135 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, nothing, just waiting on an uber. 1136 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: I was like, it's like one hundred dollars or something 1137 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: like that. I can't remember. It was like everybody's calling 1138 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: because the train is cut off. 1139 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 4: And he was like okay, and then I say, you're 1140 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 4: waiting on an uber. No. 1141 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 5: No. 1142 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: She wanted him to offer the money, but no, I said, 1143 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm about to. 1144 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 4: You know. 1145 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: It was like the train is cut off. Whatever I'm 1146 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 1: about to call the uber or whatever the case is. 1147 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, it's like ten thirty at night, right, 1148 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: And he says, oh, I lived one He's like where 1149 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 1: are you. 1150 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 3: I was like full time. He's like, oh, I live 1151 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 3: one stop away on the train. I said, I just said, 1152 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 3: the fucking train. 1153 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: Is cut off, right, So he was already mad well, 1154 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: but then he says, so I left it alone. 1155 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't mad at that. 1156 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 1: Like forty minutes later he texted me, He's like, so, 1157 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: how'd you make out? That is what pissed me off? 1158 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: You know you sound like my friend and this is 1159 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: no again, this. 1160 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 4: Is a I know, I know it was you today, 1161 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 4: it was tomorrow. 1162 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 3: I would be on your show. 1163 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 4: I have friends who are tomorrow. 1164 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 6: Like know. 1165 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, I'm on your side with that one. 1166 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not. I'm not. 1167 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 3: I get up something with my friend now. But she 1168 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 3: when she goes out to you, I said a long 1169 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 3: So I stopped talking to him for a year, and 1170 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 3: then he kept on trying to come back. 1171 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, yo, you really want to know 1172 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 4: why I. 1173 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 3: Stopped sucking, like stop trying to like let you pursue 1174 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 3: me or whatever. He was like, yeah, what happened? 1175 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, that night you like you just 1176 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: you knew I was in a situation, not a situation, 1177 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: but you didn't offer basically. 1178 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 3: And he said, and he wrong, No. 1179 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 6: You know what he said. 1180 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 4: She's not wrong for one thing. It depends on the 1181 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 4: level of their friendship and their relationship, we. 1182 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 3: Have done anything. They were new, a new nigga. 1183 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 4: Don't owe you a hundred dollars because you're trained. 1184 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 8: Don't know you? 1185 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 3: Yes, but wait, you know what. 1186 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 4: Let her finish. 1187 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: The end part was that he said, why you ain't 1188 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: just asked me for it. He's like, I'm sorry, I'm 1189 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: a tech guy, I'm black and white. I don't know, 1190 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: like I don't take kens. 1191 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 4: This is what he said. 1192 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 3: I so I agree with with his delivery. 1193 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: I have friends now, current day, current age older that 1194 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: literally will go on dates, and because she walks out 1195 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: and they don't pay for the ballet, she never wants 1196 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: to see them again. 1197 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 3: She feels like they should be paying for her valet 1198 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 3: for park. Well, no, it's the same thing, and to me, 1199 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 3: you ballet. 1200 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 4: The same thing, the same brain, and so to. 1201 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: Me, I feel like that's where again I tell her 1202 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: as someone who wants to dismantle all this ship, first off, 1203 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: you're not telling him out the gate that this is 1204 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: what you're expecting of him, so you're not communicating it 1205 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: and being you're just hoping he reads your mind. 1206 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm so over women just. 1207 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: Thinking men should know how to read our minds and 1208 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: give us everything we want without ever asking for it, 1209 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: because those be very clear. 1210 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 3: There's a lot of women who would. 1211 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: Have never got upset that he didn't get sent one 1212 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: hundred dollars for the uber and what. 1213 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 9: Have appreciated the forty minute check in to make sure 1214 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 9: you got home safely. 1215 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 3: Because the emotion. 1216 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 6: Decade ago, right, and I'm sharing now and he's got 1217 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 6: home safe, a level of care. 1218 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,959 Speaker 4: Can go ahead. Let me get this problem land mouse. 1219 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,959 Speaker 4: I'm with her one thousand percent. I'm with older. 1220 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 6: If you just all right, I'm with that because I'm 1221 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 6: telling you right now that is indicative of a man's 1222 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 6: intent to provide. 1223 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 3: That man told you, and I agree with that man said. 1224 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 8: To you, Oh, I'm a tech guy. You gotta make 1225 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 8: it black and white. 1226 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 4: Niggas. 1227 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 6: You're not just sitting I know tech niggas. Bro, You're 1228 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 6: not just saying that work waiting for nigga. If something 1229 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 6: go wrong, it's your job to figure out. Oh, we 1230 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 6: should have been able to figure that out beforehand. So 1231 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 6: if I'm talking to you, if i'm fucking with you, 1232 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 6: if I'm in your face. 1233 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm dealing with you. My provision. I'm going 1234 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 4: to want to make sure you good. 1235 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 6: Like to me that's bugged out that nigga say, yo, 1236 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 6: you got I'm not asking you you got home. 1237 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 4: I'm watching you make sure you get home because I 1238 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 4: just ordered you a uber. What I made sure you 1239 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:44,919 Speaker 4: was good. 1240 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 6: So now the reason I say that's different from a 1241 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 6: valet is because ma'am you already got here. We're literally 1242 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 6: talking about her getting somewhere, making sure you got someone. 1243 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 4: Providing for you to go home. I'm paying the valet. 1244 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 4: That's provision to some people. 1245 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 3: I do want to shake the table a little bit. 1246 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Because you know, you speak so well your tweets that 1247 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 2: I had nothing critical to pull from you. And so 1248 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 2: then I do want to ask because what we see 1249 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 2: a lot of times are people speaking from a place. 1250 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 3: That sounds good, but the. 1251 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: Like So, what's what's the disconnect on you being able 1252 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: to have the idea of what it takes to be 1253 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: a good provider, a person in partnership, potentially a husband, 1254 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: but you're not any of those things. 1255 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 4: I was a husband. 1256 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 6: I was a husband at a time that I was 1257 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 6: unequipped can. 1258 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 4: Be a husband. I was terrible husband. And my ex wife, 1259 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 4: my baby mother, she. 1260 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 6: Was we had we had something that was unsustainable because 1261 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 6: neither one of us knew how to sustain a marriage. 1262 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 6: We both came from I came from a household that 1263 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 6: had uh that had a healthy, a healthy, long lasting marriage. 1264 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 6: But I'm also a product of a broken home. Right, 1265 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 6: So the man that raised me isn't my biological dad. 1266 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 6: So yes, I have an example of a husband and 1267 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 6: a wife, but I also have these issues of self worth. 1268 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 6: I also have these issues of damn. I want to 1269 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 6: be like my dad and a man he is, but 1270 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 6: inherently I'm kind of like this nigga, and I don't 1271 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 6: really want to talk to this nigga to figure out 1272 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 6: these issues, so, you know, and then just on other 1273 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 6: than the fact I was twenty one, twenty two, three, 1274 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 6: twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, you know what I'm saying, 1275 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 6: Like there was I was still learning myself. 1276 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't even a thousand percent sure of who I am, who. 1277 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 6: I was until I was damned the twenty six twenty seven, 1278 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 6: that's a year after our separation, you know what I'm saying. 1279 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 4: So I was ill equipped to that. 1280 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Now, Now do you believe you're equipped enough? Because your 1281 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: tweet well, you speak well. I think I could you 1282 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: put it into practice? 1283 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 4: Could I be put it in practice? 1284 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 6: That's anybody can say yes, And I think that is 1285 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 6: the scariest thing somebody's saying now, even somebody like me, 1286 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 6: Like I think people who have never been married, I 1287 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 6: think they're insane when they say, oh, I can't wait 1288 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 6: to be married, you know, and the marriage is in 1289 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 6: Disney World, Like, you can't look at it and be like, oh, bitch, 1290 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 6: when I get there, I'm gonna take that ride. Because 1291 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 6: when you get to your marriage, it's gonna be completely 1292 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 6: different from anything you've ever seen. 1293 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 8: And you have to be prepared to deal with that 1294 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 8: and sit through that and love through that. 1295 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 4: Now, a lot of. 1296 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 6: Motherfuckers can't do that. We see a lot of motherfuckers 1297 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 6: fold because it's too hot outside. We see a lot 1298 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,919 Speaker 6: of motherfuckers fold because they didn't get the promotion. 1299 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 4: At work because then they can't paid for. 1300 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 6: The Yeah, but you know you, but if you can't 1301 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 6: sit through that, you damn better not I get married 1302 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 6: because the motherfucker that you got see every day they gonna. 1303 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 4: Do a lot more than that. 1304 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: So another thing is I have a lot of women 1305 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: call me who are crying literally and figurative about not 1306 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: being married yet, right, And I'm like, it's so funny 1307 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: that you have this ideal picture of what marriage is 1308 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna look like for you in your mind and you 1309 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: can't wait to get. 1310 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 3: To that person Disney Princess. 1311 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 8: A person crying about not being married is the last 1312 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 8: person that should be married. 1313 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 4: It's society, but I know that it's society. 1314 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: It's patriarchy. 1315 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 4: It's society. 1316 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 9: They sell y'all White, they sell y'all Cinderella, they sell 1317 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 9: y'all Vogue magazine, all the ship that y'all look at 1318 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 9: from the time when y'all are small, that this man 1319 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 9: is going to come rescue you on this white horse 1320 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 9: and tell you off, take you off into the sunset. 1321 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 9: All of that shit is what y'all buy into. And 1322 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 9: we have people value place of value on them being married. 1323 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: And then I say to them, I'm like, okay, yeah, 1324 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: And then I say something like, you know, I help 1325 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 1: people with their dating that profiles and dating strategies and stuff. 1326 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 8: And then imagine being on an express the hand, y'all. 1327 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 6: Imagine somebody working on your say, your profile, and they 1328 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 6: want to bitch you. 1329 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 4: Gotta put this picture up here. As in New York 1330 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 4: and they see you the express. Can you imagine to 1331 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 4: do your fucking dating profile? You look over on the 1332 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 4: express bussing bitch to come to your business. Your business is. 1333 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 3: Everybody to take the train. And he was a gazillionaire 1334 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 3: gazillion did he just get it? I'll be on the train. 1335 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 3: But hold on, you say you do, get on me 1336 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:35,959 Speaker 3: when I get. 1337 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 4: On the train. 1338 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 3: There's no bums, there's nobody selling. 1339 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 4: Can't you get nobody smile? Not on that bus. 1340 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 3: Called seven dollars. 1341 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 4: It's a bum on the seven. 1342 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 3: No, it's not very Look this is you know, you 1343 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 3: know who's going the bus. 1344 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 4: This is the Nigga DN Then you cannot. 1345 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 3: This is this is wait wait hold on. 1346 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1347 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: That was the point, was that I'm helping women do 1348 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: their dating profiles, right, yes, they I'm like, all right, 1349 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: so tell me who you are? 1350 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 3: Tell me like, what what's great about you? 1351 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 4: I'm marrying, I'm dating with intent to be mad? 1352 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 3: Right, like all of it, but not even not even 1353 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 3: what you want? Who are you? Who are you am 1354 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 3: I getting? Who am I getting? 1355 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: Let's put this in this profile? Right, they'd be like, 1356 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, so, so why you want to be married? 1357 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 4: And you don't even know. 1358 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 3: And yes, you don't even know who you are, but 1359 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 3: you want somebody. 1360 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 4: To chew you. 1361 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 5: You don't know you. 1362 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 4: You all of this interior, check all these boxes, and 1363 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 4: you don't even know who you are. We grow up. 1364 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 4: Kevin Samuels. Kevin Samuels used to ask these women, man, 1365 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 4: what qualifies you to get this? Because he didn't just go. 1366 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 8: High value man, high value person like that is guys. 1367 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 5: But he did. 1368 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: Puts the whole attribute onto it as well, though no, 1369 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 1: not for men. 1370 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 4: He was he did. 1371 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 3: He was like nigga, He said, your dick big what? 1372 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 9: But it was on a sliding scale because the niggas 1373 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 9: that make five hundred thousand dollars don't need a big dick. 1374 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 6: Well, if you also make five hundred thousand, you wasn't 1375 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 6: online with Kem Samuels. So there's the sliding scale. But 1376 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 6: that's not I say, you're watching, you ain't calling it, 1377 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 6: but listen to help me. I don't know what to 1378 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 6: do this when she when she said she helping these people. 1379 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 6: These people have a set criteria in which they think 1380 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 6: that their significant others should meet. 1381 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: So I tell them I always say that I feel 1382 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: like there's three major components opponents that you should put 1383 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: in your d dating profile. 1384 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 4: Right. 1385 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 1: One of them is who are you? Second one is 1386 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: what are you looking for? Third one is who are 1387 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: you looking for? 1388 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Right? 1389 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 3: They know exactly who they're looking for, but like you said. 1390 01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 4: They barely know. 1391 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: So it's literally an exercise that I make them do 1392 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,919 Speaker 1: to actually dig deep and try to figure out because 1393 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, first of all, let's not put all just 1394 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: the great things about you, but you got attitude. Put 1395 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: you got an attitude on that, right, because. 1396 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 4: Hey, here's the reason you should. I don't. 1397 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 3: I don't mean that. I mean like, there's some people. 1398 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 3: There's some people who they're very serious. They give me 1399 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 3: all their attributes. 1400 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I come up with something really a really creative way 1401 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 1: to put it, and then they don't like it. 1402 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's just who you told me. You the 1403 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 3: fuck you was right. They don't like you holding that mirror. 1404 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,959 Speaker 1: So if I say, oh, I'm I'm a super sophisticated person, 1405 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm no nonsense, I'm strict, I'm serious, blah blah blah, 1406 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: they don't. They're like, oh, that no, because that's who you're. 1407 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 4: I just don't like every exactly. 1408 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now. There's somebody who wants 1409 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: somebody who's strict. There's somebody who wants somebody who's not 1410 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: gonna play in Nigga's faces. There's somebody who wants somebody 1411 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 1: who's super sophisticated. Uh fucking had sarcasm as their humor. 1412 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: You know, like, there's people who want that. 1413 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 2: So now, what are we to a place where we 1414 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 2: stand on where we started? Has anyone shifted their opinions 1415 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 2: on No, I don't think anyone has disting or upholding 1416 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 2: like where we're at. 1417 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:29,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think let me ask what you 1418 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 4: want to ask. 1419 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 6: I do think it got lost somewhere because I think 1420 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 6: some of the dating and all that kindcept. That's why 1421 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 6: I add from the beginning, Yes, so this is just 1422 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 6: my question to just feel like I was a part 1423 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 6: of figuring out that actual question. Yes, if you are 1424 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 6: for the demantling of patriarchy, what are you specifically willing 1425 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 6: to do to change patriarchy at least how it's ran 1426 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 6: in your life? 1427 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, first off, it's a holding these 1428 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: types of conversations. But when I'm dating now, I'm leaning 1429 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: with the fact that I'm coming into this relationship not 1430 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 1: looking for traditional things. The way I show up professionally 1431 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: and personally don't align fully with the patriarchy in terms 1432 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: of what I can bring, like even in terms of like, 1433 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the one to stay home 1434 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 1: and cook the gender roles and things that doesn't fit 1435 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 1: my actual day to day life because of what I 1436 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 1: do for a living and what I expect from you 1437 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: is not just provision and providing. 1438 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 3: I provide for myself. 1439 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I do need more things from you than those things 1440 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 1: and you want, Oh, I want the emotionally intelligent man 1441 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: who's also available to take trips with me. 1442 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 3: I mean I get provision in that way. 1443 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 2: So I don't lead with financial which to most women 1444 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 2: and what we're seeing on social media is the main bar. 1445 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 3: Right. I don't need a man to make more than me. 1446 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:49,919 Speaker 3: I understand. 1447 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 2: I still only want a black man. I've only dated 1448 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 2: black men. I understand the numbers of that. So I'm 1449 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 2: fine with a man making less than me. 1450 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 1: They still would just have to be able to go 1451 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 1: to the places that I to eat, or find time 1452 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 1: to travel to the places I want to travel to. 1453 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 3: That would be that would suffice for me. 1454 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 8: Really, I'm literally. 1455 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 4: Asking, I'm not there never. 1456 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,799 Speaker 3: I like, really, he's food turnoff. 1457 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 4: That's a turnoff for food. I meant the travel, Like 1458 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 4: you said, you specifically. 1459 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: Being excited to go to Miami and I want to 1460 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: go to St. 1461 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 4: Bart Yeah, this is the problem with that. It's only one. 1462 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 4: Are you willing to subsidize the trip with that? Yeah? No, 1463 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 4: I know subsidized. I say, in this context, what do 1464 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 4: you mean by that? 1465 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 6: Like if your man, let's just say, because again it's 1466 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 6: a number of schame, Like, we don't understand. 1467 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 4: It's math. All emotional ship is bullshit. It's math. 1468 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 9: So look up the median income of black men in 1469 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 9: America and that's going to be shed some light on 1470 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 9: the whole situation. 1471 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. I'm very I spend a lot 1472 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 3: of money, but I don't like to waste money. 1473 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 6: You might make more money than most of society, but 1474 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 6: I'm only using this as express bush. 1475 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm very. 1476 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,600 Speaker 4: Out both of them. America can't buy a Rolex. 1477 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: But I become very frugal. Right, so if i'm this, 1478 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I got thirty one, I could dude, Right, I want 1479 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 1: to go I want to go to somebody. 1480 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 3: I want to go away on a trip. I'm like, Yo, 1481 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 3: I can get us a discount. 1482 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 4: Yo, your discount might not be images. 1483 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 3: You don't want to say for night, let me, let 1484 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 3: me find let me finish, right, you want to be 1485 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 3: on the bill on the water. 1486 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 4: And this this is what I'm saying, This is this 1487 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 4: is a real conversation. We're joking, right, So you could 1488 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 4: meet a quality dope, dude, good dude, yes, but that dude, 1489 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 4: and we live in New York. Man. 1490 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 9: Even if you don't live in New York, you live 1491 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 9: in the Metro Atlanta area, the Metro DC area, the 1492 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 9: metro Miami area. 1493 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 4: These America listens to this podcast. 1494 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 8: The Controle Us. 1495 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 4: So what I'm doing, answer y'all own maha. Best if 1496 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 4: you meet a man that makes seventy grand, eighty grand, 1497 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 4: he's a good dude. 1498 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 3: We could go to the place of that. No you can't. 1499 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not gonna be able to come home. 1500 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 3: But the question, the question. 1501 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 4: It's posed, the question you will that you guys willing 1502 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:20,600 Speaker 4: to subsidize. 1503 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 6: If this nigga makes eighty k, he brings home four 1504 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 6: thousand dollars a month, where the fuck is you going 1505 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,679 Speaker 6: at this one thousand dollars a night? Eight hundred dollars 1506 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 6: a night, and my income take home after taxes is 1507 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 6: four k a month. 1508 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 3: I didn't say I would date him. 1509 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 4: It's not right. There is the problem thousand. 1510 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: I never in my life knew how much a man made. 1511 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: Never ever, that's a problem. I'm talking about number. 1512 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 4: I don't think that's a problem. 1513 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 10: Number. 1514 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:50,799 Speaker 4: I don't think you don't think that's a problem. 1515 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: Ever knew how much a man made in my life. 1516 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,160 Speaker 1: He could have made forty thousand, he could have made 1517 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand, could have. 1518 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 4: Made sad about how he dealt with your money. 1519 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I never was like, I never was able to put 1520 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: it into perspective about like how I don't even know 1521 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:08,560 Speaker 1: how much checks look like. 1522 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 4: Like I've always had. 1523 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Like a very unconventional job, so I don't know what 1524 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: checks look like every two weeks based on how much 1525 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: you make. 1526 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, well you're trying to crack. 1527 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 4: I promise you him not you just cracked yourself. 1528 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 9: Well, you won't date the nigga that makes four thousand 1529 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 9: dollars a month, then you are adhering to patriarchy. You 1530 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 9: don't want to dismantle patriarchy because if you are in 1531 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 9: love with true, let's get you. 1532 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 12: If you are in love with this man, then you 1533 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 12: should not have a problem subsidizing this motherfucking trip the 1534 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 12: same way niggas have been since I wouldn't. 1535 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 3: Make it four thousand a month, that's what I want 1536 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,479 Speaker 3: to know. You wouldn't pay you wait, you would or 1537 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 3: you would not pay for the trip, maybe one trip, 1538 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 3: but not all. 1539 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 4: But you said you wouldn't date the nigga. 1540 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,400 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I said I wouldn't date the guy 1541 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,840 Speaker 3: making four thousand a month. That's he's saying. 1542 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,639 Speaker 1: That's the same I can date a guy who makes 1543 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 1: one twenty and still might not be able to afford. 1544 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 4: The Yes, he's bringing home fifty five hundred dollars a. 1545 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 3: Month, that's not really now, that's sixty five k. 1546 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 9: No, nigga, what you make on that and what you 1547 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 9: net and bring that and you can't spend our two 1548 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 9: totally different numbers, and the numbers are not in your favor. 1549 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 4: And that's what these women are facing with today. 1550 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 1: Look, okay, I just have and marry myself refer to 1551 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:32,879 Speaker 1: marriage episode. 1552 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna dismantle patriarchy by just being with myself, being 1553 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 2: a bad, holy single woman. 1554 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 6: You better or you better spend some money on your nigga, damn, 1555 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,720 Speaker 6: or you could be on birthday because if we not, you. 1556 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 4: Know what, listen, it should be. 1557 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 6: If we trying to dismantle patriarchy, it doesn't matter who's 1558 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 6: spending the money, as long as we are loving each 1559 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 6: other and enjoying the experience. 1560 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 4: Nobody gave a fuck when that nigga took you to 1561 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 4: the fucking Eiffel Tower on his dime. 1562 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 6: You should and give a funk if you take them 1563 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 6: to the Eiffel Tower one your dom, if this is 1564 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 6: your nigga and who you really love. 1565 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 4: I was in places before when my women made way 1566 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:07,720 Speaker 4: more bread than me. 1567 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,919 Speaker 8: This also is in a conversation what I've realized. 1568 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 6: This also is in the conversation about Mentalizingchy. 1569 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,679 Speaker 8: That was the conversation about dating people as. 1570 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 4: Beings. Yeah, and y'all are having. 1571 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:28,679 Speaker 13: It's kicking y'all as no, No, it's kicking all three. 1572 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 13: Y'all are gonna listen back to this, and you're gonna 1573 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 13: realize everything I just said. 1574 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,719 Speaker 4: This is you stopped ting Field. 1575 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 6: We literally stopped talking about dismantling patriarchy eighty minutes ago. 1576 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 6: We have did it, and we have discussed and identified 1577 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 6: the last eighty minutes is how we should date each other, 1578 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 6: being fair and complete humans. That that doesn't even start 1579 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,720 Speaker 6: to actuate patriarch. We just are getting to the bottom level. 1580 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,600 Speaker 6: And it's not kicking y'all ass. But you spin with 1581 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 6: You said you ain't spend no money on women. You say, 1582 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 6: I said some money these bites. 1583 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 3: I heard. I did not say that at all. 1584 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 6: I said, Yo, I'm not paying for companionship. I'll spend 1585 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 6: money on women specifics. And you said paying for women. 1586 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 6: You said spending money on women isn't my thing, that's specific. 1587 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 3: She said, okay, so what is she saying? 1588 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 4: What did I say? She said bush? 1589 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 6: No. To be honest, it's really kicking y'all because you 1590 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 6: you said, I want to demand y'all dismantal patriarchy. 1591 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 3: But he said, but you can't. 1592 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 4: I'm not brocast mother stuff. I'm not paying for no trips. 1593 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,599 Speaker 4: So and then you call niggas pussy. They don't want 1594 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 4: to go shoot the niggas. 1595 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 3: You literally, this is not about patriarchy. 1596 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 4: This is about wanting. And I'm not being funny either. 1597 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 6: This is about getting to the base level of being 1598 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 6: able to show up and date one another as full, 1599 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 6: complete human beings and what do feel and complete human 1600 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:00,720 Speaker 6: beings want and need? 1601 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 4: Fairness? 1602 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,680 Speaker 6: That's it fairness I want you to, not equality. That's 1603 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 6: where the equality and fairness get us fucked up. Every 1604 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 6: time we want women that I interact with, they don't 1605 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,640 Speaker 6: want equality as much as they want fairness. They so 1606 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 6: know they don't want to give your gender roles, but 1607 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 6: they don't want you to treat them like less than 1608 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 6: humans because they partake in your gender role that help 1609 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:23,280 Speaker 6: benefit your. 1610 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 4: Life to. 1611 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 3: Talking about that's not this way, you what the fairness 1612 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 3: doesn't work? 1613 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 4: That way works. 1614 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,560 Speaker 6: Fairness works in a way that you are doing what 1615 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 6: you are doing because it's the right thing to do. 1616 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 8: Is that she does what she does because it's the 1617 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 8: rights in the middle y'all have. 1618 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 4: That's not true because fairness is relative. But what you 1619 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 4: might be a man and think is fair treatment of 1620 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 4: your chick. She may think it's unfair, so you have 1621 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 4: your woman. 1622 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,680 Speaker 3: I think the better term for it is just mutually beneficial. 1623 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 1: Right because fairness, like he said, that could be unfair 1624 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 1: to you, right like you could think it's fair. 1625 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 4: She can not. 1626 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:08,680 Speaker 3: But but you might think it's fair, but she may not. 1627 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 8: Think it's a part of a relationship. This is what 1628 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 8: I keep saying. 1629 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 6: If we're doing a relationship, you what you deem fair 1630 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 6: have to be priority to me if I am dating you. 1631 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,639 Speaker 4: But that's what I think is fair. 1632 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 3: Is what you think is more on target. Because it 1633 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 3: may not be equal. 1634 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 8: And it may not be fair, we agree with it. 1635 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,920 Speaker 8: It won't equal because patriarchy will not go on you. 1636 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 4: I want to. 1637 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 2: Dismantle the god damn patriot. I have a question for 1638 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 2: y'all after our conversation, has your mind changed. Is patriarchy 1639 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 2: beneficial in some respects like dating? Or should we burn 1640 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 2: patriarchy to hell and start all. 1641 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 3: The way over with it? 1642 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,639 Speaker 2: I want y'all to share your answers and the comments 1643 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 2: over on our social media page and especially if you 1644 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,880 Speaker 2: are over on our Patreon, make sure you join the discord. 1645 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 1: And keep the conversation going. 1646 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,600 Speaker 2: Where can people hear more of y'all goddamn rhetoric up 1647 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 2: holding the patriarchy? 1648 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 4: Please share? 1649 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,880 Speaker 1: Cuddy will start with you for all the women wanting 1650 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 1: to date these men in this damn. 1651 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,640 Speaker 8: Well my passport, cud, you can find me on an 1652 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 8: express book. 1653 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 4: Back right side of taking my seat. 1654 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 3: Remember the front. 1655 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: I like they said, I'm on Instagram, Twitter and uh 1656 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 1: TikTok at passport, underscore Cuddy, I have books, and I 1657 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:39,600 Speaker 1: have games, and I do advice calls on dating, relationships 1658 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: and everything else under the sun. 1659 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 4: I would like to ask you a question, yeah, advice. Yeah, 1660 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 4: I'm not asking advice. I just I mean, it's all. 1661 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,560 Speaker 4: What was the moment where you were like, oh, I 1662 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 4: should be giving advice. 1663 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,559 Speaker 1: When everybody started emailing me asking me for advice? Okay, 1664 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 1: it was like literally that, like tons and tons and 1665 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 1: tons of emails of people want in my opinion based 1666 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 1: on what I was tweeting and stuff like that. 1667 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, Mouse, where can people, I guess hear more 1668 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 3: from you? 1669 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 7: Jesus right now tending like a little sabbatical, I don't 1670 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 7: want you to hear me, and I mean bitches and niggas, 1671 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 7: So y'all can read what I have to say over 1672 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 7: there on the Twitter or ex whatever it's called. 1673 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,680 Speaker 4: I'm over there, but I ain't saying nothing. I don't 1674 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,000 Speaker 4: because there's too much work. I don't put three three things. 1675 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 6: Ain't nobody saying that to that way, I'm appreciated, So 1676 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 6: I'm still Yeah, Mouse Jones, everything Instagram, Twitter TikTok all 1677 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 6: that if you are live, experience trap karaoke. 1678 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 4: We are on tour. 1679 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:48,080 Speaker 6: We're everywhere, so mouse drones, no trap karaoke follow get 1680 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:53,080 Speaker 6: your tickets and Oh dead Ass a comedy show every 1681 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 6: if you're in the New York City Tristate area. 1682 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:55,639 Speaker 4: Every month. 1683 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 8: We're selling out s obs every first third day of 1684 01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 8: the month. 1685 01:20:59,200 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 4: So we had come on. 1686 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 6: I love yeah this third day coming up. Ye's a 1687 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,479 Speaker 6: comedy show, okay, and. 1688 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 3: It's where can they listen to you and your thoughts? 1689 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 3: I'm listening right. 1690 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:18,880 Speaker 4: Now Joe Budden podcasts. My socials are that's that ish? 1691 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 3: That's that ish? 1692 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all could get his merch to that he wearing? 1693 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:23,600 Speaker 1: I do y'all want to go in it' support that? 1694 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:24,679 Speaker 3: Oh did you bring my hoodie? 1695 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,600 Speaker 4: That's not patriot. 1696 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,640 Speaker 3: I pay nigga, don't do that. 1697 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:34,519 Speaker 4: I support by looking for this by gotten a dollar money. 1698 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,639 Speaker 3: So you're asking for him free because you're a woman. 1699 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 4: Provision. 1700 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,080 Speaker 3: You want to come in here and provide, you know what, 1701 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of here. 1702 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 4: Ya. 1703 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you can hate it 1704 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 1: or you can love it. 1705 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 2: Either way, are you choosing to be selectively ignorant or 1706 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,920 Speaker 2: are you choosing to be educated? See you next week 1707 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 2: for another episode. Y'all, I'm signing out bane. 1708 01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:02,639 Speaker 5: That's her right, Jesus, thanks for tuning in the Selective 1709 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,960 Speaker 5: Ignorance of Mandy B. Selective Ignorance. It's executive produced by 1710 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,960 Speaker 5: Mandy B. 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