1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Sat. Welcome into an odd version of 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. It looks a little bit different because it's 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Draft Eve than We've got plenty in store once Thursday 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: rolls around as the twenty twenty NFL Draft is finally here. 8 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: But we're gonna bring you all the content, all the 9 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: information that you need to know leading into Draft Day. 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: We are Talking Cowboys. Kyle Yeoman's here alongside Rob Phillips, HECKM. Harrison, 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: and back for a second straight week, the great Isaiah Standback, 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: former Dallas Cowboys. We continue to get you ready for 13 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, and guys, it's crazy. Tomorrow's the Draft. 14 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: We're just over twenty four hours away from our recording 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: of this podcast and you still don't necessarily know exactly 16 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are gonna go. There's so many different options. 17 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: Edge rusher, cornerback, wide receiver. Who's gonna fall to seventeen 18 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys even pick at seventeen? And Rob, I 19 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: know you've been around the draft for almost I guess 20 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: how many years now, maybe a decade. I think it's 21 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: like fifteen years on and off. I've lost track myself, 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: but something like that. Yeah. But is this just the craziest, 23 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: most wide open possibilities that you've ever seen leading into 24 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Draft Day? Yeah? And I think you know, Cowboys officials 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: touched on that during the pre draft press conference in 26 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: that because you're at seventeen, you're right on the edge 27 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: of that top half of the first round, and it's 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: way if you if you want to be pessimistic about it, 29 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: you're a no man's land a little bit because you're 30 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: you're at the mercy of all these teams in front 31 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: of you. However, I think the Cowboys are looking at 32 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: it from an optimistic standpoint that they're gonna have options. 33 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: They feel good about the overall talent in this year's class, 34 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: especially those first round prospects, and they're gonna have some options, 35 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: whether they stay put, which they've done the last six drafts, 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: and just pick the best player available to them, or 37 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: they try to find a dance partner and move back. 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's something they've done before. Jerry Jones rounds 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: that about Travis Frederick in twenty thirteen, where they were 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: able to move back from eighteen, which is right almost 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: the same spot at seventeen thirteen spots back got a 42 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: future you know, five time pro bowler. So that's kind 43 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: of how they see this as as potential options and flexibility. 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Of course you got to have it takes two to 45 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: tango there. But we'll see how they got to see 46 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: how the board you know falls here in the next 47 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: you know, couple days here, it seems like it really 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: is in a foregone conclusion on whether or not those 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: trades are even gonna happen. Of course, they had a 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: mock draft the other day, and even in the first pick, 51 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys traded up to the first overall pick, 52 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: it was all a mock. It was all scripted. Cowboys fans, 53 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: don't get into it, don't get too crazy. And because 54 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: they took also Trey Adams offensive tackle out of Washington, 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: which was kind of an odd pick. But it just 56 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: seems like things are going to be a lot more 57 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: clunky whenever it comes to the draft moving forward. Man, 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: this is an unprecedented territory with this draft, and I'm 59 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: looking for something crazy to happen tomorrow at the top 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: quarter of this draft. But I think this, I really 61 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: look at seventeen for the Cowboys. We're sitting pretty you know, 62 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: if there's anything that happened, someone falls, you know, there 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: may be a player that we'd never even imagined that 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: would be there for us, or you know, history repeats itself, 65 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: as Jerry Jones stated yesterday, and we may trade out 66 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: and go back to pick up a stud as well. 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: And so I'm really excited about where we are a 68 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: seventeen and just excited to see how this draft pans out. Well, 69 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, the thing with seventeen is that things could 70 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: work out so well for you because some of those 71 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: top fifteen players could drop or things could go oh 72 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: so wrong, and then you've got to, like Rob said, 73 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: find a dance partner and kind of go back and forth. 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: That's kind of the craziness with being around the seventeenth pick. 75 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: And then you add the wrench in of it being 76 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: a virtual draft in Isaiah, no surprise here, you're the 77 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: one of the four of us who have actually been drafted. 78 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: Is the only one that's been drafted. Is there any 79 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: possibility at all that this takes away from the dreams 80 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: that are being kind of fulfilled over the next couple 81 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: of days. I think for those first round guys, I 82 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: think I think it definitely does. I think those guys 83 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: really look forward to you probably in the last half 84 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: of their collegiate career. I think they really look forward 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: to that draft day, right if they know they're gonna 86 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: be a first round guy, you know, if they like 87 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: that kind of attention. I wasn't there that guy I was. 88 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: If ibably got invited to the draft, I'll probably stay 89 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: at the house with the family, you know, in the 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: living room or something. But I think for those guys 91 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: that like that, like that stardom and really want to 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: be there, I think this does hurt them and it 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: hurts their vision. But at the end of the day, 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: it's a long career. Hopefully it's a long career, and 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: you know this is a small portion of it, and 96 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: you're still blessed it, you know, to get drafted and 97 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: even be invited, I mean, you can get the same 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: conversations as a first round draft pick. So for those guys, 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I think it man affect some of those guys, But 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: for the majority or guys like myself that were you know, 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, day two guys, I think they would be 102 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: perfectly fine. What was your draft day? Like? You were 103 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: selected fourth round by the Dallas Cowboys. Just kind of 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: take us through exactly how that day went for you 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: and was it as stress free or was it as 106 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: stressful as some say about it. It was very stressful 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: for myself because I was coming off a pretty traumatic injury. 108 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I had sustained Liz frank injury my senior back in October, 109 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: halfway through my senior season. So from October all the 110 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: way into them until now, I had and touched the field, 111 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: and you know, scouts didn't have idea what I was doing, 112 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: how healthy I was. So by the time I went 113 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: through the combines and all those things, the only thing 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: that they had on me was previous tape from you know, 115 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: six months ago, and you know whatever kind of you know, 116 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: health you know, health assessments that they did for me 117 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: at the combine and on my visits. So draft day 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: was a little crazy because I wasn't sure if I 119 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: was gonna be on the first day, which back then 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: was the first three rounds on the day one, and 121 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: then Day two was four through seven, So I wasn't sure, 122 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: so literally, I sat on sat around waiting by the 123 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: phone all day long, thinking I might be a second 124 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: or third round guy simply because of my injury, you know, 125 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: and some teams didn't want to take the risk on me, 126 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: didn't think I could come back from that. So by 127 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: the end of day one, I realized that I wasn't 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: playing some video games at the local RC with my family, 129 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: and I started receiving phone calls early the next morning. 130 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: I say, I kind of missed those days when we 131 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: just packed it all into two days, you know, just 132 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: knock it all out, but remind me we're the cowboy. 133 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: He's looking at you. They talk to you before the 134 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: draft about being a receiver and said a quarterbacker, how 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: many teams were interested in you making that switch that 136 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: you ultimately did. Yeah, it was it was half and half. 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: I was saying, I think I think I kind of 138 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: had like three parts. I had teams that didn't think 139 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna be able to come back from that 140 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: traumatic injury because most guys that had it previously didn't 141 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: come back. So I had that that that third of 142 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: the of the league that didn't want to touch me. 143 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I had a third of the league that wanted me 144 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: as an athlete, right who wanted me as the you know, 145 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: receiver slash whatever um And then that which I think 146 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Dallas fell in fell into that category. And then I 147 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: had the organizations like the New England Patriots, you know, 148 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Coach Belichick in and U and Billy O'Brien, those guys 149 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: wanted me at quarterback. So you know, I got my Obviously, 150 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I got drafted by the Cowboys and Garry tell me, Isaiah, 151 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna get you with this pick, and you're gonna 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: play receiver for and and that's that's when I found 153 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: I was playing receiver for the Cowboys. And then you know, obviously, 154 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: once I left the Cowboys, the next phone call I 155 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: got with Bill Belichick, he said, hey, can you still 156 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: throw the ball, but we're about to drop to you 157 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. It's crazy, man, it's crazy if you 158 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: were if you're in that athlete category, Man, where did 159 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: you learn to pick up a Jerry Jones impression that 160 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: was as spot on as that one? That's my guy, man, 161 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: there you go. He may he helped make your dreams 162 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: come true. And there's two hundred and fifty five plus 163 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: dreams that are going to come true. This weekend, and 164 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: in terms of the Cowboys, we saw kind of a 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: piece behind the curtain, but also not really whenever it 166 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: came to the re draft press conference, it was a 167 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: call much like this over WebEx where Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, 168 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy were addressed by the media and kind 169 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: of talk to about some of their pre draft plans. Rob, 170 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: you were a part of that that media group that 171 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: got to talk to Jerry and Stephen. What were some 172 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: of the things that were kind of brought up that 173 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of peaked your interest at least over the course 174 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: of that hour or so phone calls. Well, I think 175 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: when they have these, they have these every year, and 176 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: you're right, it was a very different format. Everybody's still 177 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, virtually including us, how to do this. 178 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: But it went it went fine, and there were some 179 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: good tidbits that came out of it. I think when 180 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: you when you listen to those, you have to kind 181 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: of read between the lines because cowboys don't want to 182 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: tip their hand. They want to accommodate the media, but 183 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: they don't want to tell you exactly what they want 184 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: to do, and you know, to a certain extent to 185 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: a large extent. They don't know what's going to happen. 186 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: That's why seventeen can open up a lot of different possibilities. 187 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it's it's valid that they're not really sure, 188 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: and you know, and they told us too that they 189 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: didn't feel like they're tied to any particular position. We'll see. 190 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think corner and pass rush, we've talked 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: about that for many weeks. Those still appear to be 192 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: even after the first pay agency, those still appear to 193 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: be the major needs. But you know, we'll see. Maybe 194 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: there's some other things they're looking at. I thought Mike 195 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: McCarthy said up thing interesting at one point in that 196 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: talking about pass rush. You don't necessarily have to go 197 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: the traditional route, as you know, as in a hand 198 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: on the ground defensive end guy. You know, if they're 199 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: going to be multiple and he called them a four 200 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: three defense, maybe you can you know, attack in different 201 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: ways and use your linebackers and things of that nature. 202 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: So could they be looking at linebacker, We'll see if 203 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: they trade down. Could they be looking at another position 204 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: like offensive line? Although when I asked the question about center, 205 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: he mentioned the two Connors. He threw in Connor Williams 206 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: there as well as a guy that could I guess 207 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: compete for the position or at least something they're thinking about. 208 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: So it sounded like they like the depth there. But 209 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: overall they usually tell us this, they're not worried about 210 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: any particular position, but they've got to have some things 211 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: in mind on what they need and what they still 212 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: need to address. Man, it was a great deal of 213 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: posturing going on. They're not tipping their hand on anything, 214 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: and you can just tell just by the questions that 215 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: they were being asked that, look, although we may they 216 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: may have an idea about who they're gonna go with, 217 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: they're not letting anyone know which direction they're going in 218 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: because they know that everyone is looking at that press 219 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: conference as well. But one of the great things that 220 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: I took from the press conference was Mike McCarthy talking 221 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: about the uniqueness of this situation and being with a 222 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: guy like Will McClay, and also Jerry Jones and Stephen 223 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: talking about how Will McClay is all inclusive with the 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: scouts and the coaches, everybody coming in together to have 225 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: a brain trust that knows that once these you know, 226 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: these guys start to fall on the board that they 227 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: already know which guys that they're going to attack. And 228 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: I talked about this last week as far as that 229 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: infrastructure already being there, and when coach Mike McCarthy spoke 230 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: to that, I thought that that was the one thing 231 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: that I really feel strongly about going into this weekend 232 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: under these unique circumstances. I don't agree, I don't disagree 233 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: with you. I want everybody to know if you guys 234 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: don't know what a draft board looks like. All right, 235 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: all the fans out there, these guys, these scouts, these 236 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: guys have been working hard for the last year right 237 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: on this particular class, and these guys have at every position. 238 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: They're about ten deep on the board where they have 239 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: everybody's name and ask people get picked, they take that 240 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: name away, and they still know who their next man 241 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: up is should they have the opportunity to pick for 242 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: that particular position. So all the fans out there, there's 243 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: somebody out there that you want, and they get taken 244 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: before the cowboys have their picks. Don't worry. The scouts 245 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: have done their due diligence and they know exactly who 246 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: the next man up is that they choose to select 247 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: that position. Man, let me ask you this Ideah, Now, 248 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: don't you think that it's gonna be even crazier for 249 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: those teams that don't have a war room this year 250 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: and guys are in different locations. How do you control 251 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: that atmosphere not having that, you know, visually being able 252 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: to see, Yeah, that that guys spell off and just 253 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean for me, when I think about what tomorrow, 254 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen tomorrow, that's what makes it even more 255 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: crazy because there are some teams that are they rely 256 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: on that heavily. When that guy follows off, who's the 257 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: next guy coming up? How do you even envision any 258 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: of this happening under these surfaces? The good thing is, 259 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're in twenty and twenty and we have 260 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: these cloud based services, and these teams have these very 261 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: well paid, you know, technicians on their squad, So I 262 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: can only imagine that they have Google Google drives and 263 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: things of that nature. Where there's there's multiple worksheets that 264 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: everybody can work on simultaneously, so when one edit's made, 265 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: everybody can see what's going on. So I don't think 266 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: there's gonna be too much of a difference. It's just 267 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: everybody's not going to be in the same room. The 268 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: content will still be the same, the information will still 269 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: be conveyed the same way. It's just going to be 270 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: where you're literally talking like we're talking right now. Yeah, 271 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: it's a lot of what we're doing here. We're not 272 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: in the studio, we're not necessarily right next to each other, 273 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: but we're still kind of having that conversation back and forth, 274 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: still providing content at least close to a level that 275 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: we normally would whenever we're in a studio. I agree 276 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: with Isaiah just saying that, hey, it's twenty twenty. If 277 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: this was nineteen ninety five, it would be a lot more. 278 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: It would be a lot tougher to try and pull 279 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: off something like this, But luckily we do have an 280 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of stay connected even though we are 281 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: apart now. Kind of going back to this press conference 282 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: a little bit and Rob you referred to this a 283 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: little bit earlier where Mike McCarthy said we're a four 284 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: three defense, But there was another quote that stuck out 285 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: to me and I ended up tweeting this out yesterday 286 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: because it kind of in reading between between the lines, 287 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: it kind of made me think about Kenneth Murray at linebacker, 288 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: just kind of one of those thoughts. He's out of Oklahoma, 289 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: He's not your traditional defensive end, rush the passer type 290 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: of linebacker. But if they're potentially going to move to 291 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: a three four, kind of got me thinking a little 292 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: bit what this quote and the quote was the players 293 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: that we've added to the existing roster, of course through 294 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: free agency, will give us a chance to shift gears 295 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: as far as the scheme change we see ourselves making 296 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: from here. What do you make of this quote? Is 297 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: there anything to read between the lines or am I 298 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: just crazy kind of thing at least at the moment 299 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: that says, hey, there's a chance that we may switch 300 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: things up, maybe not this next year, but a three 301 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: four maybe in the future. No, you know what, his 302 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: name crossed my mind too at the same time when 303 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: he was talking about I mean, basically what he's saying 304 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: is we need versatile guys, guys that can just get 305 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: the best prospects on this defense and we can adapt 306 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: to it, you know, And I think they've done that 307 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: with the guys that they've signed. I mean, Gerald McCoy's 308 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: played in multiple defenses, so as don Terry Poe so 309 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: there's some adaptability to what they've already put in place. 310 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: And Kenneth Murray, I think is a prospect that can 311 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: can probably fit different types of defense as Zach Bond's 312 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: another guy that could do it. I think live racker 313 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: that can also rush the passer. Not saying they're going 314 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: to draft those guys, but that's, you know, that's the 315 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: type of prospect they could be. They could be looking 316 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: for for Mike Nolan's defense there, and it kind of 317 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: seems like at least they've had conversations. They have had 318 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: conversations with both of those individuals, and it seems like 319 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: they really do like Murray just from kind of the 320 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: conversations and some of the things that are kind of 321 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: floated out about there. You could throw caleban Chason in 322 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: that mix. And LSU adge rusher is a little bit 323 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: more of the traditional put your hand in the ground 324 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: kind of edge rusher, but somebody that played outside linebacker 325 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: at LSU, you can maybe throw him into the mix 326 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: there as well, just not as versatile. If you're looking 327 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: at a three to four, then maybe ken it's Murray 328 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: and Heckman, I know you've kind of kept up with 329 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: the draft overall, what were your thoughts whenever you kind 330 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: of saw it is a hint at maybe a scheme 331 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: change and where they could go whenever tomorrow comes around, 332 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, just thinking about which direction this teams go 333 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: defensively and the whole mystery surrounding that surrounding it. You know, 334 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: every team some way form they pay a variation of 335 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: the three four four three defense when they go to 336 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Dime and Nichols. So even to speculate on that it 337 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: would just maybe putting too much into it because everyone's 338 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: doing it. And but when you the kid Murray from Ou, 339 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: it's probably a safe pick for all thirty two teams 340 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: in the first round. He is as solid as they come. 341 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: His story is amazing, and the kind of character that 342 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: you're getting in I said, you talked about it last week. 343 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Guys are having the heart to play this game. He's 344 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: a guy that comes in day one that you know 345 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: that you can put in any system and he fits 346 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: the bill. But also, Kyle, to your point about the 347 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: three four four three, if we do change to that 348 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: style of a defense, you're gonna have to have that 349 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: versatile guy, guy that can do both put his hand 350 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: in the ground, stand up a guy that can you know, 351 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: rush the past or all of those things are going 352 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: to be there. So no matter what we do, we're 353 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna need more bodies and more versatile guys to do that. Yeah, heck, man, 354 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you on that either. Man. I 355 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people are putting too much weight. 356 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: As you mentioned on the three four four to three scheme, 357 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: in this day and age, guys are athletes clearly the 358 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: previous athletes. You know, when I played, I was sixty three, 359 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, anyone I was with the Cowboys two hundred 360 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: and five pounds up to two hundred and forty five 361 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: pounds in my career, right, and I had to maintain 362 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: a four three four four forty So guys can run around, Right, 363 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: There's some large human beings out there that can move, 364 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: and they can move in large like they can put 365 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: some weight, so you don't have to have this traditional 366 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: three four four three. When I was playing with the Patriots, 367 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: you know, back in two thousand and nine, we had 368 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: to play against you know, Rich Ryan and Rix. Ryan 369 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: would come out and have a one down lineman five 370 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: linebacker five DD you know. Setup you know, I understand 371 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: these defensive coordinators are creative, and when they go to 372 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: start mapping out with their scheme this for it each 373 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: particular week, they much rather would have athletes or a 374 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: versatile that could put their hand in the ground and 375 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: hold an edge, or they can get on the ground 376 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: and they can get around the edge right, and they 377 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: will scheme around everything else, so you don't get locked 378 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: into these guys needing to be you know, six four, 379 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty pounds. I'm much rather having six three, 380 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five pound guy that get that's 381 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: strong enough in the room, that can hold his own 382 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: yeah say. It kind of reminds me of the Patriots 383 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: last season, where their top pass thrushers were basically linebackers 384 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: and guys, athletic guys that can match up with this 385 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: new wave of offense where you've got athletic tight ends 386 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: and wide receivers that can make big play. So it's 387 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: almost like, right, I'm a big NBA guy. NBA is 388 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: going positionless. It's almost like the front seven defenses. You've 389 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: got to be not position list, but you've got to 390 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: have so much versatility to be able to match up 391 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: with what offenses you're doing these days. It kind of 392 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: seems like overall fans of the Cowboys have been maybe 393 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: scarred by pass coaching staffs who have thought the opposite, 394 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: where it is kind of pigeonholed and you are in 395 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: a four to three or a three four scheme because 396 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: that old kind of I guess the past mindset. I 397 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: won't say old. I don't want to tab any of 398 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: the form of coaching staff that way, but I just 399 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: want to say the new form of thinking is kind 400 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: of where Mike McCarthy's headed. He even said it in 401 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: his press conference yesterday that we want ball players. We 402 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: want to draft the best available. We want to get 403 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: guys that are gonna come in be athletes and be 404 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: good football players, and so that was kind of music 405 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: to my years. Overall. Now, there were some other at 406 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: least talking points to go through that didn't necessarily have 407 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: to do with the draft, one of which was the 408 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: squashing of one of the rumors that Cowboys fans have 409 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: been holding on hope for at least for the last 410 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: couple of months, and that's Jamal Adams and a potential 411 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: for a trade. Jerry Jones comes out yesterday and he 412 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: says that it's very unlikely we're gonna trade for a 413 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: veteran who won, We're gonna have to turn around to 414 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: pay immediately. And two we're gonna have to at least 415 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: give up one first round pick for Rob. Kind of 416 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: speak to that and talked about what your thoughts were 417 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: going into, at least what Jerry was saying, because it 418 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: crushed a lot of hopes for a lot of Cowboys fans. Yeah, 419 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: it sure, it sure did. He said, it's highly generally speaking, 420 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: he said, it's highly unlikely that they would make a 421 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: trade for an established star in the NFL. And his 422 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: basically his thinking was, at this point in time, draft 423 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: picks are so valuable that it's not it's not an asset. Really, 424 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: teams are willing to move at this point, and because 425 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: you've got you're onund draft day, it's an opportunity to 426 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: draft a guy that can be under contract for four 427 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: to five years with relative cost control. Where it's not 428 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: it's not gonna hamstringer cap if you're gonna you know, 429 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: and he referenced again generally speaking, if you trade for 430 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: a guy that's a big time contract that you're gonna 431 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: have to address and take onto your salary cap. We 432 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: all know, the top priority for the Cabals right now 433 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: is getting number four done. And that's you know, that's 434 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: that's line number one for them in terms of trying 435 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: to you know, spend and spend big money. Has the 436 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: best pocal face in the game, man. So look, I 437 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: mean in Caboy Nation, everybody wants to have been talking 438 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: about Jamal Adam for years now, especially last year, and 439 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: with Earl Thomas and us missing that opportunity, we've just 440 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: been clamoring for safety. Safety uh and there have plenty 441 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: of them in the draft as well, and so you look, 442 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: we don't know it's gonna be It really is gonna 443 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: be filed, but I don't rule out anything happen in 444 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: last minute or something big happening for the Cowboys on 445 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: draft day. Yeah, I can't foresee them, like like Jerry 446 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: touched on yesterday, I can't foresee them, you know, getting 447 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: an established veteran at that position. It's just just too 448 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: costly and we're too cap strapped here in Dallas to be, 449 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: you know, trying to make that kind of sacrifice, in 450 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: that kind of commitment. And to my point last time 451 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: we all got together, is the coaching staff being able 452 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: to lean on your coaching staff and know that they 453 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: can develop talent. Right. I actually as much as I 454 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: as much as I feel like I know Jerry Jones 455 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: and I know he wants that seventeenth pick, I honestly 456 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: think that it would be more valuable for them to 457 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: trade out of that spot. Trade out of that spot, 458 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: collect a couple more second or third, third round picks, 459 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: and get that value that fits within your financial structure 460 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and allows for you to gain more athletes, gain more depth, 461 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: and more guys that you can develop underneath this particular regiment. Well, 462 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of going back off of what you just said, Isaiah, 463 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: talking about specifically the safety position, you're saying that we're 464 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: cap strapped and it's kind of put in a tough situation, 465 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: of course, and like Rob just said, you're trying to 466 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: pay your quarterback here. But is it also just kind 467 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: of another sign of how much this front office kind 468 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: of devalues the safety position. I mean, it's been almost 469 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: a decade that we've been looking for a star caliber safety, 470 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: but necessarily haven't been looking for it. At the same time, 471 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: you've kind of let that position go to the wayside, 472 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: and Jeff Heath was your guy for a little while. Yeah, 473 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's a lack of trust 474 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: there or lacking commitment that. I just think that you 475 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: see immediately as soon as this culture staff came in, 476 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: where do they apply their focus defensive line? Right, They're 477 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: focusing their attention on that defensive line in that front 478 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: seven all to talk to you, hearing about as a 479 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: pass rusher d line right into your alignement, being able 480 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: to hold the ford, being able to control that line 481 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, because that's where they've seen value in the 482 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: last ten years. The Cowboys established themselves by get having 483 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the best office a line of the league. So they 484 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: understand the value of those front guys, which is why 485 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: immediately they secure that right, they secure their interior alignment. 486 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, you can't rush inside, right, 487 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: So now words of value go. Now the guys can't 488 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: go inside where they have to go, They have to 489 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: go outside. So now we need some guys that can 490 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: hold the edge. Now we need some athletes that can 491 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: run side to side. You already have some of those 492 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: linebackers in play, So let's go get some more of 493 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: those guys, and by applying that pressure upfront, our secondary 494 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: dery guys don't have to be as good. Right, The 495 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: QB's not gonna have as much time to sit back 496 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: and survey the field and be able to make, you know, 497 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: the proper delivery. So our front seven will allow for us. 498 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: They need to be sung everybody else in the secondary. 499 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: We just need them to be good. That's the ABC's 500 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: of football, my man, you know. And so when you 501 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: have the front seven, the front four guys that can 502 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: apply that pressure, like you said, you don't have to 503 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: have all world guys. And I just believe that once 504 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: we brought on haw Haw Clinton Dicks, we got better 505 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: at the position overnight. I mean, I know that's what 506 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: we call a bridge player and it's a temporary deal, 507 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: but at the same time, I just believe athletically we 508 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: got better at that position. So I'm just excited about 509 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: that portion of it. But you're right, Isaiah, like you said, man, 510 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: it's the defensive line. Those edge rushers is going to 511 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: make that one one one thousand half or a quarterback. Absolutely, 512 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a need anyways to address whenever the 513 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: draft does come around over the next couple of days, secondary, 514 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: cornerback and safety, all the way through, the combination of 515 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: those two positions is still right up at the top 516 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: of the draft board, at least in terms of what 517 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could use. But do you guys see any 518 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: other positions that kind of pop out and at least 519 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: reach out to you as some that could be maybe 520 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: a sneaky need or a wide receiver or a linebacker 521 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: or something like that that could potentially kind of rise 522 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: to the top of the draft board and be there 523 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: day one or day two. Well, I definitely think, you know, 524 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: receiver could be a possible depending on value and how 525 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: early they want to invest in it. It's a fairly kyle. 526 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: It seems like it's a fairly deep position this year 527 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: in the class, specially top heavy. It's top heavy with 528 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: some of those four or five guys that could go 529 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: in the first round. But you know, quarterbacks sounded like 530 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: QB sounded like it could be a need or something 531 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: that they address sometime over those three days. Uh, Jerry Jones, 532 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: did you say QUB? Rob? I said QB, And and 533 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: I haven't been saying QB. But but look, Mike McCarthy 534 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: wants to develop that room, right And I went back 535 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: and I looked at it and he was there thirteen 536 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: years in Green Bay and they drafted five quarterbacks, including 537 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: two in one draft, and you had Aaron Rodgers there. 538 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: So they it's that's always been a philosophy in Green Bay, 539 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: even before Mike was there. You know, you draft the guy, Okay, 540 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: you got Brett Farve. If this guy developed, you trade 541 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: him for a first round pick in three years, you know. 542 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: So maybe that's what they're thinking. But of course it's 543 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: got be something that that fits and there's got to 544 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: be value there. This week, I'm just teasing. I heard 545 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: I heard the same thing. Uh. And Jerry Jones kind 546 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: of put it in the in the in the term 547 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: of a guy developing those assets for trade value in 548 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: the future. And so uh. And you look over the 549 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: course of Mike mccarthur's career, even in Green Bay and 550 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: them drafting quarterbacks. That's a big part of the communication, uh, 551 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: for their their starting guys, having that communication be from 552 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: their backup guys, and so um, look, most of and 553 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: it's no is not a mystery. While most NFL coaches 554 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: have a quarterback experience, so Isaiah, Uh, you know, because 555 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: those guys are a big part of the game plan, 556 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: and so I looked with that as well. I mean, 557 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: but it shocked me when when the question came up 558 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: and they didn't shrug it off, They're like, yeah, you know, 559 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: we'll be looking for quarterbacks in this draft as well. Yeah, absolutely, 560 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: I think you have to have depth at that position. 561 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knows that number four is gonna get 562 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: taken care of, but what happens if he gets hurt? 563 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: And you always have to think about that, as you know, 564 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: as a general manager, as an owner of a team, 565 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: as a head coach of a team, you have to 566 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: think about the what ifs, right, And even though you're 567 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: putting all your money into this one individual at that 568 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: particular position to lead your team, if something bad does 569 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: happen to him, which does happen in this league, it's 570 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: a physical sport, what is your backup plan? Right? So 571 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: I can't dismiss the fact that they are definitely going 572 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: to grab a quarterback, But I also think that they 573 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: need to address a slot receiver. You know. I think 574 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: you can hear it, you know, and a lot of 575 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: a lot of McCarthy's comments he really wanted Cop. Oh yeah, 576 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: he really wanted Cod and he thought he thought that 577 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: was a for sure thing and it didn't happen. So 578 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: now you have to feel that position. You're not gonna 579 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: be able to feel that position with a veteran. So 580 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: now you need to get somebody who was established, who 581 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: had a great career in college, who might not even 582 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: be a big name guy, but that can fall to you, 583 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: probably in the third and fourth round, and grab him 584 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: that can that can take some of the pressure off 585 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: of those outsides guys because you have Cooper, you got Gallup, 586 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: you got those guys that can it could take the 587 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: top off you know, you have your tight end, but 588 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: you still need that guy that's gonna get you those 589 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: first downs with six seven yards is said. Do you 590 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: think they've got enough of a workaround there though, with 591 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: moving a mare in the slot some maybe paul Tony 592 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: Pollard in there, or do you think they need a 593 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: Beasley cop type guy that that's with that short area 594 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: equipness to fulfill that position. You need that guy. You know, 595 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: every team that I've been on that's that's been successful, 596 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: we had that guy, right, you mean, whether it was 597 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: when I was with the Giants and we had you know, 598 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: a big you know, we had crews in there. When 599 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I was with the Cowboys and we had Patrick Craydon 600 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: who was always just shifty, you know, whether I was 601 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: with New England and we had you know, Julian Edelman 602 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: and Wes Welker. You need that guy that dvs had 603 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: zero chance of sticking with right or if they want 604 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: to stay in the base defense, that linebacker has zero chance. 605 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: So you have to have that individual. You're starting to 606 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: see that transition, you know, if you go back, you 607 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: know ten, you know, ten to twelve years when you 608 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: had the you know, the Calvin Johnson's and all these receivers, 609 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: it's changed their values. Not with those big guys anymore. 610 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Now was to really, you know, change over to you 611 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: know that slot guy that's is nippy, a shifty and 612 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: that can get you that five yards, catch it at five, 613 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: get another five six yards for matter them. I guess 614 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: what the sticks had just moved, right. You need to 615 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: be able to move the sticks. It's not always about 616 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: those big plays about withstanding with you know, withholding drives. Well, 617 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: both Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy addressed that yesterday, saying 618 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: that we've set ourselves up with the success that we've 619 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: had in the free agency market of adding some of 620 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: these veteran guys, kind of laying at least a foundation 621 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: to add a bunch of talent in areas that we 622 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily think we're specific needs early wide receivers. Ride 623 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: up with you, Isaiah, I agree they need a guy 624 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: like that. The good news is there's a lot of 625 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: guys like that in this draft, and you can get 626 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: them in the third and the fourth round too, so 627 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: you don't actually have to address it early now. But 628 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy or a CD Lamb falls in your lap 629 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: at seventeen, there's a chance to get a number one 630 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Nothing against the Marii Cooper, but I mean 631 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: people are comparing CD Lamb to Deandrekins. If you could 632 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: tell me that the Cowboys are sag DeAndre Hopkins right now, 633 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm never going to turn that down. So there's plenty 634 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: of actions when it comes to wide receiver, and also 635 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: really with quarterback late as well, and like Rob was 636 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: kind of talking to, you need that depth right now. 637 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: You have a backup quarterback who was undrafted. You have 638 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: a chance if you want to go five, six, seven 639 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: rounds deep into this draft, you have a quarterback you 640 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: like fall in your lap. I wouldn't be surprised if 641 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: they pull the trigger on somebody to maybe at least 642 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: fight for that backup role. Overall. Now, were running out 643 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: of time. This is a shortened show for all of 644 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: those watching things for sticking around at least through some 645 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: of the craziness of draft week. Before we go, though, 646 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I want you guys to give me your prediction who 647 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to take a pick seventeen heckmo, 648 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna start with you and Isaiah and then Rob. 649 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: We'll finish us out. That's how we're going to do this. 650 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: This is our impromptu Cowboys mock draft seventeenth overall, pick 651 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: it and go heck I'm on chasing from LSU. I 652 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: think he's He's the bona fide pick for us the 653 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: seventeen and it makes sense. You know, there's some other 654 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: needs we made trade back. I don't know, but I'm 655 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: just staying right off the top seventeen chasing from LSU, 656 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: dog going you heck man, I'm going with the same one. 657 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Another one. Oh man, I can't call it, man. That's 658 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: that's where I have my mindset on right there. I 659 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: think that we definitely need I think they're gonna go 660 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: with a pass rusher. I definitely didn't go pass rusher 661 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: at what name. I can't get it to you right now. 662 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm not to go back and go on my dog 663 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: on cheat sheet. Well, I'm gonna stay really boring and 664 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go make it official unanimous with Chase Jason. 665 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: I think I agree. I think pass rush is something 666 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: they're looking at. It's probably less deep than corner potentially, 667 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, if C. J. 668 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: Henderson's not there and everybody thinks he might be a 669 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: top fifteen pick, now, maybe they go with the best 670 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: available corner. And there's there's a few of those guys 671 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, there's AJ Terrell. There's plenty of those 672 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: best overall corners that could be available. My boring pick 673 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: would be Calevan Chase On. That's who I really do 674 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: think they will end up selecting. However, I will throw 675 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: Christian Fulton's name in there. I think he's a little 676 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: bit up on the boards. Then a lot of people 677 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: realize I went back and watched his tape again, this 678 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: is a coverage corner. This guy can do a lot 679 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: of things for you, and he fits the mold of 680 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: what Mike McCarthy and Mike Nolan are gonna end up 681 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: doing with that defense moving forward. And I think they'll 682 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: add some linebacker and some edge rush depth a little 683 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: bit later on in the drafts man doing to my 684 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: shows with helmet. Yeah right, I can hang around with 685 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: helmet a little bit too much. Yeah, and I'm getting there. Hey, 686 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: let's just throw Grant to help it in there too. 687 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: Let's throw all the last Tigers straight up, the first overall, 688 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: let's go get Joe Burrow. Let's figure it out. Clyde's 689 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: Edward a layer. Okay, that's gonna do it. Here for 690 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys WebEx edition on the eve of the twenty 691 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft. So glad you've stuck around with us, 692 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: and hope you're staying safe out there, and it's crazy times. 693 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: Enjoy the NFL Draft. We're gonna be back next Tuesday 694 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: at our normal time eleven o'clock to talk through how 695 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys did, who they picked up, and where do 696 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: they go from here. But for now, for heck Ma Harrison, 697 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: for Isaiah stand Back, and for Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle 698 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeoman's so long until next week