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Welcome everybody, And of course 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: I've been a couple of days now since we've got 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: the news that there is not going to be a 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: recall on the ballot anytime soon. Concerning the La County 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: District Attorney George Gascone. We're gonna talk later on on 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: the show to John Hadammy, who's been one of the 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: most passionate, outspoken Deputy DA's about the importance of the 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: ouster of George Gascone for that job, because he is 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: just set back criminal justice incredible amounts since he's been 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: DA for just a month, a year and a half 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: One thing gas going on to get through his skull 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: here is that he is still despised by much of 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: the county, and he is still despised by nearly all 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: of the deputy das that work for it. The only 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: people who love him are killers, felons, criminals, right, all 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: the all the all the scum of our society love Gascone. 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: They're toasting him in prison. They're talking about having tattoos 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: on their face of him. All right, So believe me, 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: everybody heard of something like that. Everybody ana who followed 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: this story was very disappointed that Gascon didn't recalled. And 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: we don't know why yet, but there's a tremendous amount 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: of desire to have him recalled. There's a tremendous desire 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: wishing he would quit or some way get forced out. 33 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: There's there's there's nobody's looking at this and saying, oh, well, 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's the way it is. This is, this 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't be the way it is, okay, because he's he's 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: really evil, right, He's there. There's cops getting getting murdered 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: on top of everything else, multiple cops getting murdered. So 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why, why anybody should feel comfortable that 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: George Gascon is still the district attorney. It's still a 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: terrible situation. He still should be gone. We made an 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: appearance on Fox eleven. We thought we'd play you a 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: minute because it's you know, it's Kermit with the usual babblings. 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: But this part, I guess he was asked, how come 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the deputy das wanted you out 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: of the job. Your own employees, let's listen. So I 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: think it's important to understand the scope of You know, 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: this is in office of about twenty two hundred people, 48 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: and I'm very familiar with the people that you guys 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: talk on the regular basis. But even when there was 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: a vult no confidence, I happen to know a lot 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: of people that call me and reach out to me 52 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: and say there were being bajor they if they had 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: now responded, there were being a single out there, we're 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: being harassed in the workplace, that we're being told that 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: this was going to go to an independent person in Canada, 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't know how they reply, so they were 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: bullied into voting no conident. I have to tell you 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: that some people say this much, but look I think 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: this is water under the bridge. I like to focus 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: on the future because I want to make sure that 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: those that are doing the job, and that's the majority 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: of the people in the office, get the support and 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: they get the things that they need in order to 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: do the work well. And I'm going to be here 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: for them. There's no water under the bridge. You're letting 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: out people who've murdered, and you're letting out people who 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: go on to murder again. There's no water on the bridge. 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Nobody got bullied. In fact, what was that part about Canada. 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I followed that. I didn't don't. I 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: don't know what any meant either, bably something about Canada. 71 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: There are people incapable. I think we've all known them 72 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: in our lives. Incapable of admitting that they're bad at 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: their job, that they're screw up, that they made mistakes. 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: They're incapable of absorbing criticism. They're narcissists. Everything bounces off them. 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: That's just the way their brains are wired. Their brains 76 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: are not wired. They're sociopaths. They don't have the ability 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: of introspection or remorse. They're not capable of it. So 78 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: it is really like talking to a wall. You could 79 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: yell at guest gone all day and night and insult him. 80 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: You could prove that he's wrong fifteen different ways. He'll 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: always have a comeback. I'm beyond listening to mister comeback. Mister. 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: I always have an answer. I've got a data. Blah 83 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. That's why this was the you know, 84 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: this is what had to be done. He had to 85 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: be removed. Now we'll find out why this didn't work. 86 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: But he still has to be removed. He's still lying. 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: He still doesn't care about the damage he's done. He 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: doesn't care about the dead cops. He doesn't care about 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: the people who are murdered by the prisoners. He's trying 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: to let out early. He's the same social path that 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: all the stupedoes in this county elected to begin with 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: because they weren't paying attention. And John and Tommy was quoted, 93 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: he told Fox News and a statement. The vote of 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: the Deputy das to support or not support his recall 95 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: was done over the internet, individually and confidentially. There's no 96 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: way anyone would know how anyone else voted, where they voted, 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: when they voted, if they did or didn't vote, so, 98 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's embarrassed by this, so he made up 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: a BS answer. Yeh, yeah, he just lie. Look if 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: if he's willing to release people who murder, of course 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: he's willing to lie. Lying is like a micro a 102 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: micro offense. I think you should have told the truth, 103 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: and I'm surprised he didn't. And here's the truth. The 104 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: truth should have been. I got to get rid of 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: all these deputy das because they don't have the same 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: agenda as I do to change the criminal justice system 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: so people aren't punished much because it's racist, it's unfair. Well, honestly, 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: that's why they're against him because the kinds of things 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: he wants to do is directives, goes against everything they've done, 110 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: but their whole career is doing and what they believe in. 111 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Why couldn't he just spoken the truth to that instead 112 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: of trying to tell us who No, I think I 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of support and they were bullied who 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: gave him that stupid answer? He make that up on 115 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: the fly and just tell the truth. He has done 116 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: that before, but he tried to make it sound like 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: I know the people you seek to John and Tommy, 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: he's one of those that's been on TV and radio 119 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: quite a bit. And what Gascon was trying to do 120 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: is marginalize them. Oh, they're just a few dissenters, but 121 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent voting confidentially. They want you out. Well, 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: they were bullied, I mean, no, tell the truth. They 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: don't like what you're doing. Stand up to that truth. 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: And if you want to get rid of them all, 125 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: well you're gonna have to go do that. Replace. I 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: mean some of them already quitting. We know that. And 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: he's brought in these public defenders and key positions in 128 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: the DA's office to carry out his plan. He's trying 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: to destroy the system. And don't be fooled by his 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: claims of racism. He's the racist. His policies lead to 131 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: more young black men getting murdered because he doesn't prosecute 132 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: all the felons running around. He causes more deaths in 133 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: the black community. So he's the racist. He's the one 134 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: bringing suffering to all these neighborhoods, and he should be 135 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: called on that every time, every time. The victims of 136 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: these crimes are often also people of color. Yeah, they 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: are very much the whole movement from Gascon to black 138 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: lives matter to all these preening, pandering politicians. They are 139 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: killing more minorities with their policies than that is imaginable, 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: because policies are letting the dangerous people continue to be 141 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: on the streets. So they're the racist and they should 142 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: be called that and dealt with like the racists that 143 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: they are because their policies lead to death. No way 144 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: they get the moral high ground. They should never get 145 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: the moral high ground, all right. When we come back, Oh, 146 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: a long time El Segundo Times columnist Robin Abb Carrion 147 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: wiyhs in on Gascon. In fact, she stuck Mike Bonnin 148 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: in there too. She's like, I'm a proud progressive and 149 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: this is how we really see all this. Well, we'll 150 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: give you her unique opinion. It is right and wrong 151 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: at it. Coming up next, John and Ken cafe I 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: coming up after the News at three thirty. Holy Mackel California. 153 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Justice such as it is extends outside of the range 154 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: of the La County District Attorney George Gascone, one of 155 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: the kidnappers of those school children in nineteen seventy six. 156 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: This is the Chowchilla case. Is where they were buried 157 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: alive in a rock quarry inside their school bus is 158 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: being released from prison. We'll talk about Fred Woods after 159 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: the news. As this is. You know, there's a lot 160 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: of Gascons in the system now and it's a really 161 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: psycho philosophy. And if you haven't heard this story, you 162 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: are going to punch a hole through your front windshield. 163 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: One was a long time Elsa Gondo. Times columnists Robert 164 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: of Carrion. We usually use her as a funny punching 165 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: bag because she really is a dits brain. And she 166 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: said she lives in Venice. I know that because she 167 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: jumps on every progressive bandwagon there is and has the 168 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: most cliche, simplistic, silly arguments. But she kind of considers 169 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: herself like a moderate progressive, so to speak, trying to 170 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: be like the sympathetic voice of reason here. I'm not 171 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: literally a crazy, far out activist. So she starts the 172 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: story about gascone talking about a story we did, and 173 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: of course, because it happened in Venice, she talked to 174 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: a woman about the name of Rachel Heart. You may 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: remember this story. We had Rachel on the show. This 176 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: is when that teenage driver went the wrong way and 177 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: plowed into Rachel, who was pushing her baby in a 178 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: stroller in the alleyway, and the video was unbelievable that 179 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: Rachel managed to just get up against the wall before 180 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the car could have run them down. And then of 181 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: course the teenager kept on going. He got involved in 182 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: another collision and they caught him copsay, wasn't intoxicated. They 183 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: charged him, of course with felonies and so forth. But 184 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: because it's a teenager, you got preferential treatment from George Gasconne. 185 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: She actually writes, was the sentence of your slap on 186 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: the rest or just punishment for a callow driver who 187 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: came within a hair's breadth of killing a mother and child. 188 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: It was five to seven months. It could have been 189 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: a double murder, and it was a youth probation camp. 190 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: It was inches away, Yeah, from being a double murder, 191 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: the poor mother and child being crushed. This is somebody 192 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: who will come kill somebody someday. Yeah. See, the teenage 193 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: drivers or the teenage criminals scare me the most because 194 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: they're just starting out and they are going to get 195 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: leaning and sentence sentences, and so when they get out, 196 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: then they're really gonna start killing people. They're really going 197 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: to do damage because they'll be older, binger, bigger, and stronger, 198 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: more embittered, and they'll be in bold because they got 199 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: to slap on the wrist and they realize, Hey, this 200 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: system doesn't really punish, so I could do what I 201 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: want and let out all my violent energy. So she's 202 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: right when she says in her column that Guascone is 203 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: full of it when he calls this a power grab 204 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: by right wing conservatives. She didn't see that. She said 205 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: he ought to acknowledge that there are a lot of 206 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: people out there, constituents, even employees. We just talked about 207 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: his deputy das who have differences with him, and he 208 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: ought to be more humble about it. But this part, Wow. 209 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: I believe he's a principal proponent of equal justice. I 210 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: support his commitment to ending racial disparities in the legal 211 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: system and increasing police accountability. Voters share these feelings. They 212 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: have to all. He put him in office by a 213 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: wide margin in twenty twenty over a two times incumbent 214 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Jackie Lacy. We believe, and I think the polls bore 215 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: this out. Last year was the year before they took 216 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: the poll. People do have buyer's remorse. They did not 217 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: know that was going to do this. The last Paul 218 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: pulled in La County was overwhelming. They'd like him out 219 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: of all the last Paul was like sixty four to 220 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty one against Gascone. The people who voted for him 221 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: most didn't know that he was going to do the 222 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: things he did. He didn't run specifically on this stuff, 223 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: and she should know that, which means either she's lying 224 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: or she's ignorant. I'm pretty tired of asking that question. 225 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: Are you lying or you're ignorant. It's pretty clear that 226 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: he did not. When first day he's in office and 227 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: he published his declaration of all the new policies, everybody 228 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: freaked out on day one. Everybody nobody knew this was coming. 229 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: You know, he was doing the progressive happy dance while 230 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: he was running, but nobody knew the specifics would be 231 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: so extreme. And she knows that nobody knew it, So 232 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: stop with the boiler plate. You see this in all 233 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: the La Times opinion columns and editorials. You know, he 234 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: was voted in by the public. Apparently they did want 235 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: this kind of progressive movement. No, they did, didn't. You're 236 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: absolutely full of it. You're dreaming you're gas lighting, you're lying. No, 237 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: people don't want it. This is how wrong she gets this. 238 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: She believes that the likes of Karen Bass and this 239 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: guy that wants to replace Mike Bonnon. His name is 240 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: Eron Darling, these are the kind of progressives we want 241 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: with progressive solutions to the problems that bedevil us. No, 242 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: they're going to carry out the same policies as Gascone 243 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: and Bonnin. It's just maybe they won't be obnoxious about 244 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: it or blaming, you know, right wing conservatives. We're trying 245 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: to get them out there. There's like five right wing 246 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: conservatives in LA so to stop it. Okay, they don't 247 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: see the West side. Here, here's the line that really 248 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: gets me, she writes, in Los Angeles Anyway, it seems 249 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: that people who scream the loudest about Gascone's approach to 250 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: criminal justice and Bonnon's approach to homelessness are the noisy minority, 251 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: and the more they have felt disregarded and disrespected, the 252 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: louder they have yelled. Bonnon's approach to homelessness is to 253 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: allow dangerous encampments of violent drug addicts, mental patients, sex molesters, 254 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: and criminals. Encampments in front of schools. He was one 255 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: of only three who voted against the ordinance to ban 256 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: the encampments in front of schools. I don't know, and 257 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I live on the West Side, so she can take 258 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: a hike. I know the people I live with there 259 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: are zero in favor of homeless encampments in front of schools. 260 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: And again she should know that. She really doesn't know that. 261 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: She thinks that's a minority who screams the loudest. No, 262 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: it's everybody, show Robin of Carrying. Write a column and 263 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: list ten people that you know who want homeless encampments 264 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: in front of schools, who think it's a good thing 265 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: to have half naked meth addicts screaming and howling in 266 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: front of the school with all their garbage and filth 267 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: and feces and needles. Show me the parent in front 268 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: of their school. Find me, Find me ten. What are 269 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: these effective progressive solutions that she dreams about. Here you're 270 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: looking at two politicians bonding and gascon who was supposed 271 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: to represent that because she's their solutions are horrific. Big consequence, 272 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: because she's a brain watched member of a cult. Right, 273 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: there are people's well There's got to be somebody out 274 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: there that can solve these problems without getting other people angry. 275 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: There are people in Charlie Manson's cult who thought he 276 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: was a man of peace and spirituality. People's brains don't 277 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: work very well. But in our modern culture, if your 278 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: brain is crazy and you have a bunch of wacky ideas, 279 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: you can get a job at the La Times and 280 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: make some decent money printing all your your insanity. This 281 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: is public challenge, dropping up carrying find me ten parents 282 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: on the West Side. Go to the most liberal districts 283 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: on the West Side who want the homeless encampment, throwing 284 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: some child sex offenders into the camp too. See who 285 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: wants all right? The mastermind behind the nineteen seventy six 286 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: kidnapping of a bus driver and twenty six children in 287 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Chowchilla has been granted parole. It's hard to believe. Will 288 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: give you the details from the story coming up next 289 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Johnny can cafeine Well, it was a crime that at 290 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: the time made worldwide news because it was just unbelievable. 291 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: We take it back to July of nineteen seventy six, 292 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: twenty six school children and their bus driver. The bus 293 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: driver's name was Ed Ray. They were kidnapped from a 294 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: school bus in the countryside near Chawchilla, California. They were 295 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: eventually transferred to a van and buried in a quarry 296 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: in Livermore. The idea of the kidnappers was to get 297 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: five million dollars for their release. Fortunately, the bus driver 298 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: and a couple of the kids figured a way out 299 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: and got out of a quarry and lived. The mastermind 300 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: of this crime is a man by the name of 301 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: Frederick Woods, and he is going to be paroled. Do 302 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: you believe this? This is the eighteenth time he's appeared 303 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: before the parole board, seventy years old. And I mean 304 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: you almost have to say this crime over and over again, 305 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: louder and louder until people get it. This was nutty 306 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: and elaborate. Twenty six students and a bus driver buried 307 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: alive in a bus in a rock quarry. Yeah, the 308 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: pats of the old van that they were stuck in, 309 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: and thank god they managed to climb out. Who knows 310 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: what could have happened. And of course this parole department 311 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: is letting them out, But we don't have the name 312 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: of these parole officials. Again, we've got absolutely insane men 313 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: or women who are on this parole board who look 314 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: at a guy who buried twenty six children alive, and 315 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: they don't run for reelection. We pay their salaries. They're 316 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: not held publicly accountable, they're not forced to speak to 317 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: us and explain this. This is an insane system. The 318 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: Maderira County DA and we're going to quote her at 319 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: a moment, Sally Moreno challenge the initial finding that this 320 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: guy could finally be paroled. That means it had to 321 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: go to a review from the entire parole board and 322 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: they made the decision to move forward with the parole. 323 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom can only intercede if there was a murder involved, 324 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: and that did not happen in this case. Here's what 325 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Moreno said. I'm angry, frustrated, and disturbed because justice has 326 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: been mocked in Madera County. Let me put it bluntly, 327 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: if you kidnap a bus load of school children, abandoned them, 328 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: buried alive, and still get out of prison after committing 329 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: that crime and spending your time in prison, flouting the law, 330 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: breaking the rules, and demonstrating by your conduct that you've 331 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: learned nothing since committing that crime. It says a lot 332 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: about the state of our society and the state of 333 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: California right now. And it does, doesn't it. Well, we're 334 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna let everybody out. It doesn't matter what they did. 335 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: It's complete chaos. You know why it wasn't a murder 336 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: because the bus driver and some of the older children 337 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: stacked mattresses high enough to climb out an opening at 338 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: the top of the buried van. They pushed open a 339 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: metal lid that was covered with two hundred pounds of 340 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: industrial batteries, then cleared some debris and freed the rest 341 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: of the children after sixteen hours underground. Their underground in 342 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: the quarry, with the batteries holding the lid on the 343 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: escape patch on the roof of the bus. Remarkable. I'm 344 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: just absolutely in shocked by the way this was. This 345 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: was a bad guy. He was caught with pornography in 346 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: prison in two thousand and two, in two thousand and three. Probably, 347 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: who isn't men alone in a prison cell, they're going 348 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: to get something and contraband cell phone? Yeah, well again, 349 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: who hasn't been I mean Fred, so he wasn't a 350 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: model prison but those aren't the worst offenses. Fred Woods 351 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: and his brothers, Richard and James Schonfeld, and the Shonfelds 352 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: were let out of parole some years ago. Man Woods, 353 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: apparently because he was considered the mastermind. I guess, got 354 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: the worst of the sentences. I just now two victims 355 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: of the kidnapping and a relative of a third victim 356 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: who has since died, spoke at a hearing. One of 357 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: them said, it's hard to articulate everything on feeling all 358 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: the suffering that he caused to those children throughout their lives, 359 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: which will continue unabated. Or that was according to the 360 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: DA Moreno, but whoever was willing to come forward spoke 361 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: out against. I'm this man's release. I'm looking at all 362 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: these anonymous commissioners online. I called up the page and 363 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: there's twenty one of them. So I guess they had 364 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: the entire board granting him the parole because it has 365 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: a majority vote. I don't know how it works. Yeah, 366 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean Robert Barton, Patricia Cassidy, Kevin Chappell, Diane Dobbs, 367 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: and they're seventeen more of these people, and they have 368 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: if you click the links they have, they have biographies 369 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just astonished here how you could bury twenty 370 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: six children in a bus and get paroled. No, it's 371 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: because it's because they've all caught this brainwash disease. They 372 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: don't do this in any other states. Nobody believes in 373 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: this stuff around the country, with a few exceptions, but 374 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: most people don't, most, most parole commissioners don't. Most politicians don't. 375 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: What did they all gone? Did they all go to 376 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: a re education camp somewhere? Are they all afraid for 377 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: their jobs that they have to do with certain thing? 378 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: Or are they're going to get fired replaced, be publicly 379 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: denounced on Twitter? I mean, what's the what's the weapon 380 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: that's being used against them? Do you really a majority 381 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: of these parole commissioners think that that guy would to 382 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: let go? Why not? Why not? Why don't they speak publicly? 383 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Why don't they sit down at a news conference an interview? 384 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: Why don't they tell us why this guy is deserving 385 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: These three kidnappers were apparently healthy and wealthy. They came 386 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: from good homes, went to college. One of them was 387 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: interviewed after he got paroled in twenty fifteen, not the 388 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: mastermind were talking about today? And his answer was basically 389 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: that he didn't feel special anymore. They had moved to 390 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: a new community, and he said, I bought a Jaguar. 391 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: I found out the insurance was more than I made 392 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: in a whole year. Because they were in their twenties 393 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: when they did this, I had envy issues trying to 394 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: fit in with the crowd. I decided money would solve 395 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: my problems. I felt I couldn't earn my way out 396 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: of my problems without money. I was supposedly he said 397 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: he was twenty three thousand dollars in because he couldn't 398 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: afford the insurance on his Jaguar. Yes, and some of 399 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: the money he owed to Fred Woods, who's the guy 400 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: that's getting paroled. So they all came together with this 401 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: money making scheme to kidnap the children and asked for 402 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: five million dollars. But they actually buried them alive. They 403 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't just kidnap them all. They were keeping them hidden. 404 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: I guess that's why they put them down there in 405 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: the quarry, hidden away until they got their money. But 406 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if their plan was to just I 407 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: guess their plan was, you give us a five million, 408 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: we'll tell you where they are. Sponge of psychos. Oh, 409 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: we have to hear about their their their financial issues, 410 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: that their self financial issue. Oh really did he? In 411 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: other words, he bought a car that he couldn't afford. 412 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: Huh wow, fascinating. He said, why did you choose these children? 413 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: He said, we needed multiple victims to get multiple millions. 414 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: We picked children because they're precious, the state would be 415 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: willing to pay for them, and they don't fight back. 416 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: They're vulnerable, they will mind, they will do what we 417 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: tell them to do. Makes perfect sense. Yeah, right, sure. 418 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: That one of the most bizarre crimes ever though. I 419 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: remember the headlines on that story. Wow, kidnapping a bus 420 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: full of children, bury them in a quarry. All right, 421 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: we got more coming out, John and KD Kfi. All Right, 422 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: we're roaring back with the Moistline day after tomorrow. So 423 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: a quick reminder that you can leave a message through 424 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: the iHeart radio app of the microphone icon. You can 425 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: call the old toll freedomber one eight seven seven moist 426 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: eighty six one eight seven seven six six four seven 427 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: eight eight six gascone stuff Eric, Oh the Moistline call 428 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: you ager as the news broke Monday, so that's probably 429 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: still in there. We update you now on Salmon Rushdie's 430 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: attacker This is a story from last week where the 431 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: author of the Satanic Verses who had a fought will 432 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: put on him back in nineteen eighty nine by the 433 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: then Iranian Ayatollah Ruala Homini. What do people you think 434 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: actually read that book, the Satanic Verses? Yeah, it sounds 435 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: like something that's really dense and boring. I have no idea. Yeah. Uh. 436 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: He of course was speaking at an event in upstate 437 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: New York when he was attacked by a New jerseyman 438 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: identified as Hottie mctar from Fair of View, New Jersey. Uh, 439 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: Rushdie has survived? Did he get it? Has he had 440 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: a danger for losing an eye? Do we know that 441 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: they update that at all? They said he might lose 442 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: an eye was like ten times they they haven't. The 443 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: worst injuries were his his eye apparently, you know, took 444 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: a hit from the knife. The knife went into his eye. 445 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: You think, I think so? Yeah, Well that that you 446 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: can't that's yeah good? Yeah. And then arm arm nerves 447 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: severed and I don't know if those are those were 448 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: generator or not. Some nerves do, some nerves don't. Uh. 449 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: And and his liver got got slashed. How long was 450 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: this guy on top of him stabbing him. I didn't. 451 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: It looks like everybody froze. So the alleged stabber did 452 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: a jailhouse interview with the New York Post. Yeah, some 453 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: guys were accused of crimes. Just they like to talk. 454 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: He said that he would not say that he was 455 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: inspired by the fought baw because his lawyer warned him, 456 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: I respect the eye Atola. I think he's a great person. 457 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: That's as far as I will say about that. Well, 458 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: he said he's only read a couple of pages of 459 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: the Satanic verses. No, he's another guy who's living in 460 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: his mother's basement, and he probably got radicalized. He would 461 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: play video games in the basement. He didn't have he 462 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: didn't work very much. He's no different than all the 463 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: American white guys who sit in the basement and stu 464 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: and get angry. They're on the internet, the absorbable kind 465 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: of radical thought, and then they go out and do 466 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: a mass shooting at a school. It's the same guy, 467 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: just a different subject, different target. He was absorbing information 468 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: about Salmon. Rushti looked up and heized up, this might 469 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: be my chance. He's an upstate New York Well, he's Iranian, 470 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: so it's this is this is an Iranian issue from 471 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: the Iranian Aya tola Aatla over his religion. So this 472 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: this would be, you know, the type of issue that 473 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: we would get animated by, he said. I he denied 474 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: being in contact with the Iran's Revolutionary Guard. He said 475 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: that he saw a tweet announcing that Salmon Rushdi would 476 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: be visiting in the winter in Satakwa, so that inspired him. 477 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't like the person. I don't think he's a 478 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: very good person. I don't like him. I don't like 479 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: him very much. He's someone who attacked Islam. He attacked 480 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: their beliefs, the belief systems, is his quote. So he 481 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: said that they took a bus to Buffalo the day 482 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: before the attack, he grabbed a lift ride to Chautauqua 483 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: and actually told the Post reporter, it's a nice place, 484 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: the Chautauqua Institution where Salmon and Rushdie was scheduled. It's 485 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: a good place to try to stab someone to death. Yeah. 486 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: I was hanging around, not doing anything particular, just walking around. 487 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: I was just outside the whole time. He said. He 488 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: watched videos of Salmon Rushdi on YouTube. I saw a 489 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: lot of his lectures. I don't like people who are 490 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: disingenuous like that. I don't even sure what that means, 491 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: but untruthful. No, he was born to US parents from 492 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: southern Lebanon, but he didn't respond to questions about a 493 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: month long twenty eighteen trip to the Middle Eastern country 494 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: to visit his father. His mother, of course, you have 495 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: heard John mentioned he lived in the basement. She's disowned him. 496 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: I think her quote was, I'm done with him. I'm 497 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: through with him. Good job monitoring him while he's in 498 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: your house. She claims that twenty eighteen visit changed him. 499 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: He became more religious and more isolated it and hung 500 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: out in the basement after returning. Well, he I radicalized. 501 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: We remember that during the terrorism era about young men 502 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: over the internet finding strange e moms preaching all kinds 503 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: of hatred and thirteen and he hooked up with him 504 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: in person, He didn't, And then he came back and 505 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: he probably just started looking up stuff because more obsessed. 506 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: He decided someday Salmon rushed you. That's who I wanted. Well, 507 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: just like just like the ones, the homegrown uh white kids. 508 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'm sure this guy was another version 509 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: of an in cell doesn't have a girlfriend, doesn't have 510 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: a job, and sits and just absorbed nonsense culture. He 511 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: wants to. He wants to be someone who matters. He 512 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: wanted to, I mean for for haven't. For over thirty years, 513 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: we've heard salmon rushed. He was under the fat walk 514 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: that the aetola wanted him killed, and nobody did kill him. 515 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: He was in hiding. He was in a witness protection 516 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: style program for for many years. These seven Mark and 517 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: toward a new jersey for two months. Let's spend most 518 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: of his time in the basement using the Internet, playing 519 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: video games, watching Netflix, stuff like that, right exactly. So 520 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: these guys, all the guys in Mom's basement, they're all 521 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: the terrorists, serial killers, mass murderers of the future, the assassins. 522 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: They're all sitting in basements all over. Mom's afraid to 523 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: go down there. Doesn't know what happened. He was okay, 524 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: and I went on a trip, and then he came 525 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: back different, he was changed. It's always the same lines, 526 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: all right. We got more coming up. John and Ken 527 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: showed Deborah Mark has the news KF I am six sporting. Hey, Ken, 528 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: did you know that gold is the only currency that's 529 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: held its value since the Dawn of money. Well I 530 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: did thanks to our friends at Legacy Precious Metals, the 531 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: most trusted name in gold investing. Investing in gold protects 532 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: you against inflation and gives you a hedge against stock 533 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: market volatility. Don't leave your retirement to chance. 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