1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John middlecop three 2 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: and out podcast back at it again for this Friday. 3 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: Big weekend and playoffs are gonna be the main theme 4 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: of what we hit off the top. Had to record 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: this before the Cowboy game, so no strong take on 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys Taysom Hill. If the Cowboys losing Taysom Hill, Um, 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: it might be time for Dan Quinn, as coward would say, 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: to turn his hat forwards. But but yeah, there's a 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: lot going on. Big show to day. Jay Crane who 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: hosts the Jay Boy Show for the volume, who does 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: it out of Atlanta, Big sec guy, but knows all 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: college football. We talked today for about thirty minutes, just 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of got just nerdy, little nerdy football stuff. Um 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mailbag of course at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: Make sure you slide in to get your questions answered 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: here on the show. Uh. And if you rate and 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: review on iTunes, leave a review. Would greatly appreciate that 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: it helps us with the selling of the show. And 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: if you listen, you know we like the ads. You 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: know we gotta eat. Maybe you know she ain't free 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: around here. Uh, But I want to start with just playoffs. 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: And you know, in most of our jobs, right, we 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: have different times of year depending on what you do, 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: that are more important. If you're in sales, there are 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: different quotas either for quarters or for fiscal years, so 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: things build up. But for the most part, I guess 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: if you're in a big corporation, you know, a public company, 28 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: there's obviously the earning report every quarter, but for most 29 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: of us, there's not like a defining moment every single 30 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: week like there is in sports, but specifically football, and 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: let's face it, like the games. If you're in the mix, 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: the games mean more in December. Like in my industry, 33 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: obviously I have a big fall, but I mean I 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: still got to produce content in March or in May. 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: It doesn't really stop. Now. I might get some more 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: listeners on a playoff show or in a big you know, 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: December show, but you know, it doesn't necessarily say change 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: from March. When I worked in the NFL, especially when 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: I worked in the office, the build up as the 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: season goes on is as intense as hell, but it 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: really starts like once the draft ends. You work your 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: entire time. Once the draft ends with O, T, A. S. 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: And then training camp and once the season gets going 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: to have a team that has a shot to make 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: a playoff run. That's the whole point of any of 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: this stuff. That's why everyone works so hard and so long. 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it today, like, you know, I'm 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: pretty lucky my my job. It's not I don't want 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: to say a joke because I just talked for a living. 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: It's not very difficult. I mean, it's mentally draining, but 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: like I grew up my dad, when I get in trouble, 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: you'd throw me out on the ranch, be on the 53 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: hoeing crew for fourteen hours and degrees. Right. I I 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: had to work construction in high school. That ship was hard. 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: And even when I worked in the NFL, it was 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: just all day, every day. I didn't get to just 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: sit on the couch and watch the cool players. That's 58 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: not how it worked. It was in anyone listening to this. 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: That's in the professionals of the coaching you spent so 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: much time with is random players. You don't spend all 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: your times with the stars game planning and working. And 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: if you're in the scouting department, you know empty and 63 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: every you know, lifting every rock, looking under the corner 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: to see if is there a player, is there a 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: guy on special teams that can help us? And hopefully 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: we got a chance to be good. And right now, 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: when you look at the playoffs in pro football, there 68 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: are a lot of teams in the mix. Hell in 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: college there are a lot of teams in the mix. 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: And this weekend, starting this weekend moving forward, is when 71 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna separate the men from the boys. I really 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: believe that. I mean, they're the Rams are leaking oil 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: right now? Right Uh? You have t like, is the 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Washington football team coming? Are the Raiders still alive? The 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Chargers good? The Bengals? What's going on there? Are the 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs really for real? And they're just gonna head towards 77 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: twelve and five? Kind of feels that way. But the 78 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: Broncos that I just watched last week kick the crap 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: out of the Chargers? Are they good? I don't know? 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: You know? In Minnesoah, Minnesota? Are they just gonna tap out? 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Are they gonna keep swinging and make the playoffs because 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: they should? Right? Or how are the Cardinals gonna? Look? Is? 83 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: Is Kingsbury who's never won anything, just gonna go and 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: be a thirteen and four team. Is Kyler healthy? I 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: don't know. Right to me, I think we all kind 86 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: of agree the Packers might be the best team, and 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: they got a bunch of injuries. I've been saying over 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: and over and over again, parody can be overrated. We 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: all know that. But there has never been a season 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: that I remember, in the modern age of football and 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: the Brady Belichick paid Manning era to me, that has 92 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: been this wide open. I think you could make a 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: case for ten plus teams easily to win the championship, 94 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and that part school. You could also make the case. 95 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Look at the a f C. Look how many teams 96 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: are buying for playoff spots. The entire a f C 97 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: West under the Chiefs are six and five. I don't 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: think the culture dead. Are the Browns just are they 99 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: just a one and done playoff team? That was? It 100 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: just happened like that? Are the Steelers just Steelers ravens 101 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: this week? Are they gonna respond after getting their ass 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: kicked by the Bengals? I don't know. I mean to me, 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: this week, like on paper, some of the matchups are weird, 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: but I just think, like, what's gonna happen to the playoffs? 105 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Because all These guys work all season and that's how 106 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: you're defined. Just getting to the playoffs is a big 107 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: deal for an owner. Just being in the mix right 108 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: now in December, is important, right. Why have you just 109 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: if you've kept your ear to the internet street, have 110 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: you seen Matt Rule's name? Like, would Matt Rule be 111 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: interested in Oklahoma? Would notre Dame call Matt Rule before 112 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: they hired Marcus Freeman. It's because he's losing and he 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: has no quarterback, and nobody, I don't care how much 114 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: money you make, wants to lose in pro football in 115 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: a sport of parody where everyone That's why Gruden was 116 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: getting crushed before the emails came out. It's like, is 117 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: this guy ever gonna make the playoffs? And there's so 118 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: much pressure, especially with this added spot. Look at college football, 119 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: do you know how much pressure this weekend is on 120 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: guys like Kirby Smart, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Gundy. When I 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: think about Oklahoma State, shout out to my guy Hunter man. 122 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: I think they're golf school with the basketball team that 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: can be good every once in a while. He's he's 124 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: one win away, but he's got to go through Baylor. 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: One of the better programs in that conference. Dave Granda, 126 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: good looking bald guy. I mean he wins. That game's 127 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Think about what's online. Jim Hardball, who 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: every single human that listen to this show. Let's face it, 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: you all thought he sucked. You all did. I was 130 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: even starting to question it. And I'm a Jim Harball 131 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: stand well, he came back this year. Guns blazon. Well, 132 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: if you're gonna beat Ohio State, you better not losing 133 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship game. You work all off season, 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: you work all training camp, you take care of business 135 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: for for the college football guys, it's all about this week. 136 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: You win, and you're in, right, Michigan wins, they're in, 137 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Bama wins, they're in Oklahoma State wins they're in. Doesn't 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: get any better than That's as good as it gets 139 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: in pro football. Some of these guys like, you just 140 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: gotta start winning games. You don't got three months left. 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: You only got one month. And it starts getting cold, 142 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the weather changes, it gets intense. I heard someone say, oh, 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: stucky the wins. Uh Monday Night. Can't wait for Monday Night. 144 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Bill's Patriots think how much on the line in that game, 145 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Like part of the reason we love the NFL. Obviously 146 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: it's the highest level of football, but the intensity of 147 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: the games, That's why I love the SEC championship game. 148 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: How much is on the line for Georgia and Alabama. 149 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Think how much is on the line for Sean mctor. 150 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: This is the biggest regular season games Sean McDermott's ever coached, 151 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: and it's against fucking Bill Belichick. He doesn't get anymore. 152 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: So it's why you do this. So why do they 153 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: pay you all that money? It's why you, you know, 154 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: work twenty hour days to take your shot against the goat. 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, and you win, you lose, and we all 156 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: get to watch it, you know, like when I sucker, 157 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I fail. You know, if I do a bad segment, 158 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: I can just delete it. You might never hear it, right, 159 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: most of you. If you have a bad week, no 160 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: one even notices. These guys have a bad week. Twenty 161 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: million people are watching players, coaches, you know, the the 162 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: the intensity everyone in the arena, right, if you got 163 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: some of these stadium sixty seventy in college is even bigger. 164 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: So I to me, playoffs, the importance, the intensity moving forward. Uh, 165 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I love the added playoff team. It just keeps so 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: many more teams in the mix. You can argue it 167 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: dilutes the field a little bit, but I'd call bs. 168 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Think how cool. Like if you're a Washington football team 169 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: fan right now, like you're the seventh seed, But if 170 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: you're Minnesota, you're not dead either, right if you're the Raiders, 171 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Broncoes, like years ago, most of those 172 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: teams wouldn't snip the playoffs, but that extra team just 173 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: gives the team is like eight and spots eight and 174 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: nine a chance. And again back to the are the 175 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Ravens that good? Are the are the even the Patriots? Like? 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: Are you losing sleep over? Are playing Mac Jones in 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: a playoff game? I don't think you are right. The 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Ravens have a million injuries. The Chiefs have flaws. Uh, 179 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: the Packers have a bunch of injuries. We'll see if 180 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: some of these guys come back. You know, you just 181 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: look around, Brady, look at that team. I think how 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: many guys are injured? I mean, Antonio Brown just got popped. Luckily. 183 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: I I almost tweeted something a couple of weeks ago, 184 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: like crushing the journalist. It's like, if you're gonna put 185 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: this out there, you better be right. It turns out 186 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: he was. You know, that's a good, big j He 187 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: was right. Uh you know, now I thought it was 188 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: a little crazy trust in the chef, But shows you, 189 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, bro pay your debts. You wouldn't have got 190 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: any trouble if you just would have paid the chef 191 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: the ode um ten thousand dollars. You're a multi millionaire, 192 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: so it's a great life lesson. Now, if you literally 193 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: don't have the money to pay someone off, nothing you 194 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: can do. But if you say you're gonna pay someone 195 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: and you have the money, part of being a grown 196 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: up and an adult is paying them, this would not 197 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: have happened. Instead, the NFL had to look into it. Backscard, 198 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Bye bye a B. You'd be naive to think that 199 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: all lot of players haven't done the same, but they 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: don't have former chefs turning them in. So that one's 201 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: on the stupidity, Uh of our man a B that 202 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: you know finds himself in controversy a little more than most. Right, 203 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: he's kind of gravitates toward h toward problems. I think 204 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: his resume speaks for itself at this point. And uh, 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: you know that that's you know, that's nothing. That's not 206 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: nothing with the Bucks. Like you know, when he was healthy, 207 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: he was playing well. He came on at the end 208 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: of the last season, he was playing well this season. 209 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: So I'm very very excited, not not just for Sunday, 210 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: but Saturday and then Monday. Is just that that to me, 211 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: is that that That's doesn't get much better in football. 212 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Monday Night football at Buffalo, New England's the hottest team 213 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: in the league. It doesn't get much better than that. 214 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: Let's fired to the interview with our main man, Jake 215 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: from the j Boys Show. Well fired up. I've been 216 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: saying for a while that you are a college football fan, 217 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: you have to subscribe to the Jay Boys Show. You 218 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: can find it on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, you name it, 219 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: also volume YouTube channel every day three to four Eastern. 220 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: I always get my what's that noon to uh? Noon 221 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: to one for us out of here on the Pacific 222 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: Standard time USC Trojan time uh uh. He's also known 223 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: as Jake Crane, that's his real name, former college coach 224 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: uh now just taking the SEC in Southern football and 225 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: just college football by storm. What is up, bro? How 226 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: you doing? Hey? John? It's an honor to come on. Man. 227 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: I Uh, you know it's funny. I always talk about 228 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. The NFL. They need to go 229 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: go check you out and what you're doing and appreciate 230 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: you return in the favor. And man, it's been wild, 231 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: you know the past couple of days, really past week 232 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: in college football. You know, we didn't really even get 233 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: a chance to talk about the rivalry games that much 234 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: that that went on because the coaching carouself. Just tell 235 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: everyone who's listening to this show that might not know 236 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: who you are, just a little bit about your background, uh, 237 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, because you're not you know you you didn't 238 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: go to Syracuse journalism school just to become a talking head. 239 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, you're guy. So just just brief synopsis of 240 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, No, I definitely didn't graduate from Northwestern. 241 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: Played ball at South Alabama, g a there, coach junior 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: college for a little bit, went back there, ended up 243 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: coaching for nine and a half years seven at the 244 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Division one level. Uh, and came back during the pandemic. 245 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: We got pushed back to when we could go back, 246 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: and I just started recording podcast just kind of off 247 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: the whim, uh, and it really kind of took off, 248 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I kind of decided this is what 249 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, and I thought I was young 250 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: enough to be able to do it and get back 251 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: in coaching if it didn't work. And I pick my 252 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: head up now and uh, you know, I'm on here 253 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: with Colin and it's just going fantastic and our audience 254 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: has been unbelievable but now, I mean it's it's been 255 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: great and just rocking and rolling. So you do your 256 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: show out of the College Football Hall of Fame. You're 257 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: based in Atlanta, Georgia. Correct, that's exactly right. Yeah, we're 258 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: in here right now getting ready for the storm that 259 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: is coming with the SEC Championship between George an Alabama 260 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: Battle of the Titans this weekend. Uh here in Atlanta, 261 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: let's start there. Um. I was listening to your show, 262 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: and you know what's weird is I had a lot 263 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: of friends that worked for some of the early iterations 264 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: of the Saban program. Jim mclwaine, ed manawit some of 265 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: that early building and they swore by Will must Champ. 266 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: And Will must Champ was kind of put on this 267 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: pedestal about being the next Nick Saban, and he had 268 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: been Nick's right hand guy. It just never materialized for 269 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: whatever reason. But Kirby basically has become everything I think 270 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: we thought Will must Champ was gonna be for like 271 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: a decade long stretch. How good is this guy? You 272 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: have a front row seat. I know you watched Georgia closely. 273 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: You know the thing about Kirby number one, he gets it. 274 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: And you know we always talked about is this coach 275 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: a CEO coaches this coach? You know, just a defensive guy. 276 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: Kirby's a defensive guy, yes, But Kirby got the blueprint 277 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: from coach Saban. And the thing that makes that separates 278 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Kirby in my opinion, is that he's genuine, like the 279 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: way he is, how fired up he gets, the way 280 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: he talks to the guys. If you hear some of 281 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: the speeches in the locker room, it is exactly when 282 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: an eighteen to twenty two year old wants to hear 283 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: that plays college football, he's himself. And when when you're 284 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: yourself and you're at a place like Georgia that the 285 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: brand sells itself, you're basically taking two tsunamis and putting 286 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: them together because you can have unlimited success at Georgia. 287 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: I would say Georgia per capita when you look at 288 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: high school basketball, football, and baseball, is probably the best 289 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: state in the country per capita in my opinion, with 290 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: all three sports. And Kirby has been able to go 291 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: that he played at Georgia. He's a Georgia boy. They 292 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: love him there and he's one. The only hump he 293 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: has to get over is Nick Saban. But you look 294 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: at the way he recruits Kirby Smart, not just because 295 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: he has that G on his chest and they've been 296 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: doing well on his shirt logo. But Kirby gets it. 297 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: He's genuine, he's himself, and the players trust him. The 298 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: players believe that he wants what's best for them, and 299 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: that's all you have to do. If the players believe 300 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: that you want what's best for them, they'll run through 301 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: a wall for you. But you gotta prove it every 302 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: day to him. And I think Coach Smart is done 303 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: an unbelievable job. Whether guys are performing on the field, 304 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: not performing on the field, if they're back up, if 305 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: they're a starter, they know that Coach Smart knows what 306 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: makes him laugh, he knows what makes him cry, he 307 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: knows who they are and he knows how to motivate him, 308 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: because the coach's job is to push you further than 309 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: you can push yourself. And that's what Kirby has done. 310 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: He's just happen to do it at a juggernaut like Georgia. 311 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: And Kirby took his time. Now, Kirby, just like Billy 312 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: uh Napier, he took his time, built up a lot 313 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: of equity and decided he was gonna pull the trigger 314 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: for the right job, and the right job was Georgia. 315 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: And you see him thriving his plans, working the five 316 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: year plan. I'm not talking about Big Daddy with the 317 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: guy that works at Hooters. Yeah. You know what's funny 318 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: is I have I have a good buddy that lives 319 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: in northern California who's dating a girl. They went to 320 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: University of Georgia. Good decision and she is a die 321 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: hard and we were out a couple of weeks ago, 322 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: would have been the week did Georgia played Tennessee and 323 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: we were we ended up going out to the bars 324 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: and over a couple of drinks, she looks at me 325 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: and she goes, how good are we? And I could 326 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: see it in her eyes, like is this our year, 327 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: and I said, I think you guys are the overwhelming favorites, 328 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: and I mean, really, they handled business. Their schedule has 329 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: been you know, they can only play Who's you know, 330 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: the South or the East is down? But this week 331 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: BAM was a little down and they're basically a touchdown favorite. 332 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: This is kind of his even though he'll have a 333 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: ton of pressure right with the two playoff games, but 334 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: this game would get a monkey off. How much pressure 335 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: because he's in the playoffs either way, right he could 336 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: lose this game and he's still in. But just you're 337 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: in that city right now, the fan base, how big 338 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: is this week? Well? And look until they and you 339 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win, like who who do you like 340 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: this weekend? Until they beat Mamma and they win the Natty, 341 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: the pressure is gonna be on me because Georgia fans 342 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: aren't gonna believe it untill they see it, and you 343 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: know what, they shouldn't. They haven't won a Natty since 344 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty. They've been as close as you can get. 345 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's the Boy who Cried Wolf 346 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: kind of situation until it actually happens. Then they're gonna 347 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, but I think it's gonna happen. John. 348 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: You look across college football, there hasn't been a bunch 349 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: of consistent teams. I mean, how many teams that have 350 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: the roster to win it, which is three maybe four? 351 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: And I can argue that Georgia has the best roster 352 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: in the country with what they have, that the veterans, 353 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: and the depth that they had coming back, the way 354 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: they attacked the portal, even with the injuries. You know, 355 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: when I look at this Georgia team, we look across 356 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: the landscape of college football. Who's played better complimentary football 357 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: than Georgia has. They have the number six offense in 358 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: the country in total offense. People don't want to talk 359 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: about that because it's not flashing and it's not sexy. 360 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: This team reminds me a whole heck of a lot 361 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: of the teams that Nick Saban was winning national championships 362 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: with five six seven really four or five six seven 363 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: years ago? Uh, Stetson Bennett, you came in with your 364 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: backup quarterback, really your third train quarterback, who was you know, 365 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: taking reps with the scout team and walk ons during 366 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: fall camp, and you know he's been solid they're like gravity, John, 367 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: You don't realize that gravity is there until you're eighty 368 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: years old and you're hunched over and you're like, how 369 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: did this happen? Oh, it's because of gravity. Well, when 370 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: you play Georgia, you feel like you're in the game, 371 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: and then you look up in the third corner and 372 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: you're like, how are we down twenty seven to three? Like, like, 373 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: just because they're consistent, they don't lose the game. Most 374 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: most teams, and I can argue this in the end, 375 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: fell most teams in football lose games, they don't win them. 376 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: It's a team that can really not lose the game, 377 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: that can be the most efficient, that can be the 378 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: most you know, consistent. Now, you know when I look 379 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: at Georgia this year one off games, we know the 380 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: talent Alabama has. Alabama's gonna get up for this game. 381 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: You know, everybody always asked when I'm betting games, well 382 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: they did this with this team and they did this 383 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: with that team. It's hard to use the transitive property 384 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: and be right, not only in college, in the NFL, 385 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: guys get up for different teams. You can probably only 386 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: get your team up. And what I mean by up 387 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: not excited to play, but playing at a very high 388 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: level for four maybe five games a year. This game 389 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: Alabama will get up for it. I expected to be 390 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: low scoring. I don't think you see a team score 391 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: over twenty four points. I think Georgia Winsteen in that vein. 392 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be ahead by seven to ten 393 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: throughout the game. Bama's gonna be trying to play catch up. 394 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: The biggest matchup, to me is the biggest matchup that's 395 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: always gonna be when you play this Georgia team, their 396 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: front seven versus your offensive line. And if Alabama continues 397 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: to struggle, especially on the right side of the offensive line, 398 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna look like the part on Deep Impact when 399 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: the wave comes and takes Oh Girl and the and 400 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: her dad off the beach. That's what it's gonna look like. Well, 401 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: I was thinking yesterday picking up lunch. Can you imagine 402 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the focus and intensity like Saban and Kirby ain't given 403 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: new Rockney speeches this week? This is everyone. Can you 404 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: imagine that the the the intensity in the building, I 405 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: mean all week and on the field, in the meeting 406 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: rooms like that. 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I mean, 443 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: could they be the one team? And to meet that 444 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: was a little bit like hardball forty nine or throwback. 445 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: They're built a little like Georgia. Right. Their quarterbacks not 446 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: that sexy. They can run the ball defensively, they have 447 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: multiple I mean they might have the number one overall 448 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: pick right now? Is the number one overall pick? I 449 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: think he's there there, I'm here in terms like J. J. Watt, 450 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: you know when I look at Michigan, John Good, Michigan, 451 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: could Michigan beat Georgia, because I mean, it's kind of 452 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: line it up that those two teams, especially Georgia, wins 453 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: this weekend. I think, I think, and I've said this 454 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: multiple times, I think for a team like Michigan and 455 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: beat Georgia, george is gonna have to turn it over 456 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Uh, and you're gonna have to 457 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: make a play on special teams just because not that 458 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: that I don't think the game would be close, But 459 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: when I look at McNamara and J. J. McCarthy, you 460 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: can't asking a freshman to come in in a game 461 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: like that against a team like Georgia. I don't know, 462 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: because you know, Michigan was able to line up and 463 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: run it down. Ohiose states throat. Michigan didn't win that 464 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: game because of the past. Michigan won that game because 465 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: the offensive line decided we're not gonna lose this game 466 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be better than you are. And then 467 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: obviously Aiden and Joe bu when those guys on the 468 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: defensive side did what they did. But when I look 469 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: at Michigan's offense against Georgia, I just have a hard 470 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: time finding a way that they'd be able to consistently 471 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: run the ball with the way that Georgia two gaps. 472 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: And if Michigan is not able to run the ball, 473 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: and really any offense in general, I always say, if 474 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: you're not balanced, you fall off the beam. If Michigan 475 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: is not able to run the ball, I don't see 476 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: them being able to stretch the field vertically. Not having 477 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: Bell a guy that went down earlier in the year, 478 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: against a team like Georgia, I think they'd have trouble scoring. 479 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: Uh So, I really honestly believe it. If it, if 480 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: everything's chalk, if Georgia wins, Michigan wins, since he wins, 481 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State wins, I think you're gonna have Georgia playing 482 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: Michigan in the National Championship. Okay, let's uh, let's get 483 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: some coaching movement. I've always had a philosophy and it 484 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: probably works more in the South and the West that 485 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: where you're from matters. And if you look at the 486 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: guys who crush it in the South, you know, historically 487 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden Spurrier, I consider West Virginia the South, So 488 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean I consider I don't know, you might in 489 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: the South Kirby Dabbo Jimbo, you know. And I think 490 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: the West Coast same thing, Pete Carroll, West Coast guy, 491 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford, West Coast guy, Mike Blodi, West Coast guy, 492 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Chris Peterson, West Coast guy. Like it's just it's a 493 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: natural fit in the South and the West when you're 494 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: from And Brian Kelly great coach. When I was at 495 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: Fresso State, I was a g A there. We played 496 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: that Cincinnati team that got him the job. They were 497 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: they didn't have that much NFL talent and they were awesome. 498 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: That guy is the real deal. But he's an outsider. 499 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: He's from U Mass coach his whole life Northeast right Michigan, 500 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: and I guess i'd consider Notre Dame Northeast too. But 501 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: the guy can coach, but his coordinators aren't coming with him. 502 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: You know, no one will argue that the guys, you know, 503 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: a winner, But what do you think about the fit 504 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: because he wasn't their first choice was obviously yeah. Yeah, 505 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, when I 506 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: look at Brian Kelly and you talk about the fit, 507 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 1: is he He's the guy that's gonna walk in there like, hey, 508 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: can I have a poor boy sandwich? Please? Like down 509 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: there in Louisiana, they'll be like, no, it's poh boy. 510 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, can I have an E two fete? You know, 511 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: it's like no, it's a to fee. But if you're winning, 512 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: and you know what, Louisiana people kind of like that. 513 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes me and the outsider is kind of cool. 514 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean when I switched high schools, I was the 515 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: coolest guy at the new high school for two weeks 516 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: because I was the new guy, you know, so you know, 517 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: sometimes they like that freshness from the outside and and 518 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: look Brian Kelly to me, and it's funny people say, oh, well, 519 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: his assistants aren't going with him. Well, when Nick saman 520 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: got on the plane to go to l s U 521 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: from Michigan State, none of his assistants went with him 522 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: either is he the easiest guy to work for? No? 523 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: But does he understand how to win? Does he understand 524 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: how to structure a program? Does he understand how to 525 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: blend being a guy that understands schematically what he needs, 526 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: understands how to let his coaches coach, but also being 527 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the parameters of the identity that he wants his team 528 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: to be. And most importantly, he realizes that the game 529 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: is won and lost up front. And he made the 530 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: conscious decision that at the end of the day, and 531 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk about Lincoln and all this, 532 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: he wants to know. He's tired of being a notre 533 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: dame where you go to the playoffs and then you 534 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: just get ran through up front. He said it in 535 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: his press conference at l s U. I wanted to 536 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: go to a place that has the best players. Some guys, 537 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day have to know how 538 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: they stack up. They want to know how they stack 539 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: up against Nick sab I used Brian Harson as an example. 540 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: All the time Brian Harson came into Auburn not because 541 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, well, you know, I get to 542 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: go here. He wants to find out you know, I 543 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: said us on Collin Show the other day. When you're 544 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: eighty five and you're wrinkled and you're sick, and you're 545 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: talking to your great grandkids and they're asking you stories 546 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: about coaching, you want to be able to look in 547 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: the mirror and say, you know what, I didn't run 548 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: from it. I wanted to stack up next to Nick Saban. 549 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to stack up to Jimbo. I wanted to 550 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: see what I could do against Kirby and all these 551 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: other guys. So you know, I I applaud Brian Kelly Ford. 552 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: You can call him a lot of things, but afraid 553 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: isn't one of them. But John, I'll say this, I'll 554 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: say this. You know the pressure in the SEC, and 555 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: you know the pressure at l s U. If you're 556 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: not a great fit or a country boy fit, you 557 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: better win early because Brian Kelly is not gonna win 558 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: a press conference if they lose to Arkansas and A 559 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: and M, and he's not gonna go up there and 560 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: give you a bunch of warm, fuddy fuzzies and and 561 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, cuddly remarks and you're like, oh, well, you know, 562 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: let's just get that guy a chance. So we better 563 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: win early. But I think he's the guy that can 564 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: go in there and do it. And with the transfer portal, 565 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean you can flip a program about as quick 566 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: as any place and LS use a place that could 567 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, to quote miss Elliott, you know, flip it 568 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: torque and reverse it real quick. Well, especially if they 569 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: and I've heard you talking about this, if they go 570 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: to twelve team playoffs like starting next year, the SEC 571 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: West is at minimum getting multiple teams in every first Yeah, 572 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: you can write that down. So then it's just between 573 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: If Alabama feels like a shoe in as long as 574 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: Nix's there, it's just kind of between then who like 575 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Lane Jimbo and now Brian Kelly or maybe who knows, 576 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: on a good year, maybe they get three teams in. 577 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: It's not inconceivable, right, No, no, it's not. And when 578 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: I look at the twelve team and you know, I 579 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: was big on the eight team. I wanted the eight 580 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: team playoff, I think twelve is the number you have 581 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: to cap it before you start messing with the regular sis. 582 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: And but I also know that you know, when you 583 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: look at this is about money, and they're looking at 584 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: there like, oh, well, you know we got two games, right, 585 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: and we started out with two teams. They put it 586 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: into four, so they doubled their money. Now that if 587 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: they go to twelve they can already triple the double profits. 588 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: So I'm afraid that you know, we're gonna go down 589 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: a slippery slope there. But with the twelve team playoff, 590 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you would think you'd have at least three 591 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: SEC teams, and they're including the team that's gonna automatically 592 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: get in for winning the conference. Okay, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, 593 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: you can't win national championships there right now in the 594 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: modern day. I know Stoops did twenty years ago, but 595 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: right now you can't because he can't build up the 596 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: defense and Notre Dame you can't get the players in. 597 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: But I heard you talking. I've heard a lot of 598 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: people talking about Lincoln Riley going to USC. Well, obviously 599 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, and listen, I'm a West Coast, I'm 600 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: a Pack twelve. I've actually gravitated towards the SEC. It's 601 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: just better football. But like I do for the Trojans, 602 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: they ain't packed twelve football when they're right, and if 603 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: you go to USC, they're not just gonna go once 604 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: they start making the playoffs. I mean, maybe early, but 605 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: if he does this right, Pete Carroll used to beat 606 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: the ship out of the SEC. Let's and let's face it, 607 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: the SEC changed dramatically when Urban and Saban came in. 608 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: It has always been a talented conference, but they've brought 609 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: especially Nick brought in a flood of cash and took 610 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: it to a completely different level. Right, rising tide lifts 611 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: all boats. Well, Lincoln's going to USC again. The conference stinks, 612 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: but he can build an SEC team there. So he 613 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: is not one if he doesn't, right, and he and listen, 614 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: we know we can get quarterbacks and wide receivers. He 615 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: was doing that at Oklahoma. Can you get the front 616 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: seven guys, because that's what Pete did, Cushing's, mal Luga's, 617 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: the Rockers, the Mike Patterson's, you name it. If he does, 618 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: he hasn't I heard your You had a former quarterback? Uh? 619 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: Is it Jack Cone? David Cone? Back to Nutter Dame 620 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: right now? He's messed with him about it. Oh yeah, 621 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: So and he was saying that he could build Clemson 622 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: out west And I agree because if I told you 623 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: that Nick Saban retired next year and let's say their 624 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: number one guy they went after was Dabbo, Sweeney and alumni, 625 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: and if Dabbo turned them down to stay at Clemson, 626 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: no one would say he was ducking right because he's 627 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: already one and he's winning there. Or would you yeah, no, 628 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: you know it's number one. I'd never want to be 629 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: the guy that follows Saban. I'd rather be the guy 630 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: that follows the guy that follows Saban. But I do 631 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: want to say this first. You know, I'm a college 632 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: football purist and my friend the South, yes, but I 633 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: want all of college football to be good. I want 634 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: USC to be good. I want Nutter Dame to be good. 635 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: I want U c l A to be good. I 636 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: want Order to to be good because it's better for 637 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: college football, especially when we expand the playoff. But you're 638 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: right the way I see the Lincoln Riley thing, and 639 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to what I was saying 640 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: about Brian Kelly. I think you have two archetypes of people. 641 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: I just think you have two types of people, one 642 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: type of coach that you just have to know, like 643 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: it's not about anything else. But the difference is Brian 644 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: Kelly was not offered the USC job. He was desperate. No, 645 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: it's weird because obviously he got a lot of money, 646 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: but he you know, he was calling Florida to try 647 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: to do he wanted to leave Notre Dame to get 648 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: to a better job because he wanted to know. I mean, 649 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: he wants to know. He wants to go down there 650 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: and say, all right, well, I want to know what 651 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: it's like to coach with the best players against the 652 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: best players, recruit against the best coaches, because that's what 653 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: it is. Now you have another type because Lincoln Riley 654 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: at the end of you're assuming that he would take 655 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: l s U over US, like USC wasn't an option 656 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: for him, which maybe he would have gone there. I'm 657 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: just why didn't he reach out the USC? Then, well, 658 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure he has They might not have been had 659 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: any interest, right. Well, well, I mean, we know it's 660 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: been made public that Florida didn't, but uh, you know, 661 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: my thing about Lincoln is he may have made the 662 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: smartest decision out of anybody at the end of the day. 663 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: Because if you're gonna expand to twelve and the goals 664 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: to get to the playoff, well, you know there's another 665 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: type that says, well, if I want security, stability and success. 666 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: If I go out to the Pack twelve, I look 667 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: around Oregon. You know, with Mario out there, who I 668 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: think is gonna be the next coach at Bama, is 669 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: building something in Oregon. We know U c l a 670 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: with Chip Kelly if he gets the right quarterback in there, 671 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: and he's not the greatest recruiter of all time, but 672 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: they can get hot. We know what Chip can do offensively. 673 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: You look around the conference to Utah Kyle Winningham. I 674 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: think it's one of the most underrated coaches in the country. 675 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't get enough pub but there's an easier path, 676 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: and USC is still even with the Oregon having success, 677 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: the beacon of the Pack twelve. When I hear the 678 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: word pack twelve, the first thing I think of is 679 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll in USC. And if they do have that 680 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: place rolling, that is one of the five to seven 681 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: places that you can flip really quick. That is, I 682 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: can walk to a high school in Georgia and Alabama 683 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: right now and say tell me about the USC Trojans, 684 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: and they remember. Those kids know how good USC can be. 685 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: So it's not out of the realm of possibility. It's 686 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: not old Nebraska. It's not old Tennessee. They remember how 687 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: good USC can be. So I think Lincoln took the 688 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: less risky, you know, decision to go out there. And 689 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: he knows Pat twelves about offense. But if you get 690 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: good enough defensive players out there on the front seven 691 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, and I think Grinch is a great 692 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: d C. I really do. But you can get those 693 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: guys to USC, and you know what, you can strike 694 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: fear into people at USC when they see that logo 695 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: and you know about the tradition and the colisseum and 696 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So you know, do I think Lincoln 697 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: looked at the SEC like we talked about and thought 698 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: about it and weighed his options between USC and the 699 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: and the SEC. Yes. And I'm not gonna berade him 700 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: or I don't think he's weak or think he's stupid. 701 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: I just think he went about it a different way. 702 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of different people that that go 703 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: about it different ways, so you know, people are just different. Yeah, 704 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean the one thing and again he wasn't thinking this, 705 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: but even like when Urban went to a house state, 706 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: it's a more recent example than Nick. He he improved 707 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: that conference. Just the money started flowing in and they 708 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: became better. That's what USC. Ultimately, it's the pressure is 709 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: a little different obviously out west than it is into 710 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: the SEC. The SEC is basically the NFL light right, 711 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: but there's he's not going to just be able to 712 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: cruise at eight and four for several years making a 713 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. I mean they are when you get 714 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: paid that much. The expectations, I would say, competing for 715 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: playoffs by year two, especially when you factor in the conference, right, 716 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: anything less than like a very very strong playoff, you know, 717 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: type twelve teams. They have twelve teams by year two, Like, 718 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: you better be in it if you're Lincoln Riley, Yeah, 719 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, well, when I find fascinating is you 720 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: know the old adage and you know this, John, you've 721 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: been in the business and college was well, you got 722 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: to give a new coach three years to get his 723 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: personnel in there. And that's recruiting. Well, now with the 724 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: transfer portal, you know what what is it two and under? 725 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean you gotta flip the house really quickly, but 726 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: you can and USC and you're already seeing it in 727 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: recruiting right now. I mean he's had three five stars 728 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: I believe you know, flip from Oklahoma to USC including 729 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: an outstanding quarterback. He was already recruiting California. Oklahoma's right 730 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: there in the middle in that in that footprints, so 731 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: he was kind of able to double dip a little bit. 732 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: But when you look at the access to kids that 733 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: would like to go to US, I mean, that's a 734 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: destination place for some guys, especially older guys that know 735 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna get exposure now that Lincoln is there and 736 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: it are it's already being USC. But the the time, 737 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: they a lot for you to be able to flip 738 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: stuff now from going you know, broke to better. I guess, 739 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: for lack of a better phrase, uh, it's not as 740 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: long as it used to be. In the pressure there, well, 741 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: there's always pressure. Like you said, when you're paying that 742 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 1: much money, you're letting him use the jet for free whatever. 743 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: We all know how much gas costs now, Lord knows 744 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: how much that costs. But you know, at the end 745 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: of the day, there's gonna be pressure. But yeah, he 746 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: I would I would say John that if they are 747 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: they are in contention year one in the pack twelve, 748 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, win a couple of games, They're not supposed 749 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: to and and just look better, you know, look like 750 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: old USC. Be more explosive on offense, start getting more 751 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: people to fill the stands. I mean you look at 752 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: that game versus b y U. There was twenty people 753 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: there and I may be on the selling it by 754 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: five or six. Well, I was driving around yesterday and 755 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking one thing that set barded Pete And 756 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: I think the Ohio state has done a great job 757 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: since Urban got There is the Bosa Brothers, you know, 758 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: guys like um, you know, Chase Young, but even some 759 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: of the SEC guys Myles Garrett number ninety nine right 760 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: now with Georgia will Anderson, like Pete would have been 761 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: in the mix and landed some of those guys, right, 762 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been crazy the Bosa Brothers existed in 763 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: oh four. He would have got both those guys out 764 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: of Florida come to USC. At least he would had 765 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: a very good chance. Well do you think Lincoln Riley 766 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be able to do because if he doesn't, 767 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: then he'll just have Oklahoma West. Right, can he get 768 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: those guys? He's gonna win, for if you win, they'll come, 769 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: they'll come, because again it'll be cool again because everybody 770 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: in l A will be a buzz and you bring 771 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: him in for visits, and the whole town's excited about USC. 772 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: And you've got Rodeo in Hollywood and all the stuff, 773 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: even though I know USCS by Compton u C l 774 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: A's on Rodeo. But you know what's funny, It's just 775 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: how the map has flipped on. I remember when Pete 776 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: Carroll was at USC, like he said he was coming 777 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: to the South and snatching players out there. When Urban 778 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: went to Ohio, Ohio State, he came down with snatching 779 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: players out of the SEC. It's why it looked like 780 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: O'hilo State was the fastest team in the world every 781 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: time they play in the Big Ten. But now we 782 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: are watching guys from California. Since USC hasn't been very good, 783 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: it hasn't been a dominant team out there. Go from 784 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: Cali to the South. I mean, look right now, the 785 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: two most talked about quarterbacks in the country, at least 786 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: in the SEC coming in this year, where Bryce Young, 787 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: uh J T Daniels, d j Uga Ungola la Ley. 788 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: I mean all those guys are Cali guys. I mean 789 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: quarterback from I mean, I'm telling you and it's not 790 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: just quarterbacks. So I mean you're seeing you And if 791 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: he can just put a you're never gonna kill that 792 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: pipeline completely. But if you can just take a chip 793 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: out of it and start getting a few of those 794 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: linemen and stuff to stay and and start to get 795 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: that buzz around l A man, he he could do it. 796 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln is smart enough and innovative enough to do it, 797 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: because everybody thinks Lincoln Riley, for some reason, just like 798 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, is a guy that just runs around and 799 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: throws the ball ninety times a game. No, I mean 800 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: they run a bunch of gap scheme. I mean power acounter. 801 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: He's got one of the best play action packages off 802 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: the power in the country and off the count and 803 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: off gap scheme in general. So I think he can 804 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: build a balanced offense that doesn't put too much pressure 805 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: on the defense because it's going at warp speed. I 806 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: think he if he wins early, you'll start to see 807 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: that pipeline kind of get kind of deflated a little bit. 808 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: Per set. Well, it's been it's been a good week 809 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: for coaching millennials. Uh, Lincoln Riley got half of l 810 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: A yesterday Notre Dame. You know, obviously, Kelly left a 811 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, but they promoted a thirty five 812 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: year old to be their head coach and kept their 813 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old offensive coordinator. Uh, just tell me 814 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: what you know about Marcus Freeman. I just went to 815 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: his wickiped Wikipedia page. He looks like I watched a 816 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: couple of things on YouTube. It seems like an impressive dude. Yeah, 817 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you ever seen the 818 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: movie Baby Geniuses. No, I'm just kidding. Um, you know, look, 819 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman s I think he was ready. I thought 820 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: if Fickle took the Notre Dame job, Cincinnati's first call 821 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: would have been to Marcus Freeman. I think Notre Dame 822 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: is taking a gamble, but you have to take a gamble. 823 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if nobody ever took a gamble on guys 824 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: with no head coaching experience or Power five experience, nobody 825 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: would ever get head coach Power five or a group 826 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: of five experience. So I think Marcus was ready. I 827 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: think they liked the way that the players responded. If 828 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: you go back and watch Inside the Garage great show 829 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: on the Volume YouTube channel, I mean that's the guy 830 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: they wanted. And if the players want them, most likely 831 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna get them. Typically you can get younger guys 832 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: like that for a little bit cheaper than than what 833 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: you could other guys. But look, Marcus is ready. Um, 834 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. Tommy Reese a very 835 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: innovative mind. I think he'll be there one more year. 836 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: You know. I heard his name kind of pop up 837 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: for the Louisiana Lafayette Lafayette job after Billy Napier had 838 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: gone to Florida. So I think it was a great 839 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: higher by Notre Dame. There's not gonna be a lot 840 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: of transition. He knows the lay of the land even 841 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: though he's been there for one year. And I think 842 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: Marcus is ready. I really think he's ready. I don't 843 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: think he's afraid of the moment. And the guy can 844 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: really recruit and the players want to play for him. 845 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: That's the recipe you need. Yeah, I watched this thing 846 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: on YouTube and he gave a statement like, listen, they're 847 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna be players around the country that might not want 848 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: to come to Notre Dame that we want. And I 849 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: think he was talking about some blue chippers that are 850 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: more likely to go to like the SEC Ohio State, 851 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: and he's like, it's it's my job to convince that guy. 852 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 1: And that's just like, damn this. You know, that's something 853 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: that I don't know. Brian Kelly. I think after a while, 854 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: when you've been somewhere, you just don't waste time when 855 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: you think the guy is ultimately gonna say no. And 856 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly clearly had a type which they should stick with. 857 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: They also just need to add two or three, you know. 858 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: Can they get a Will Anderson? Can they Can they 859 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: get a couple of those? Because they can you know 860 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: the kid uh on inside to the garage, Hamilton, he's 861 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: a really good player, right. Can they get two or 862 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: three or more of those guys? Yeah? Well yeah, I mean, 863 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, John, you don't win games throughout the year 864 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: and win championships with your first forty four, our first 865 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: twenty two. You win it with your first forty four 866 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: and really your first fifty six. And my thing when 867 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is, you know, they've had years at the 868 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: offensive line that they've always been pretty good on the 869 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't think that's been a huge crux 870 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: of them. They've been at the four points, but you know, 871 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: it's having the depth up front. It's not having just 872 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: the one guy, it's having the two or three guys, 873 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: the guys that you know, when there's attrition throughout the year, 874 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: Notre Dame can go and get that other four or 875 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: five star uh six ft two three pound nose guard 876 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: that can rush the pastor and do this and can 877 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: compete at that level from a death standpoint. And look, 878 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: Marcus isn't gonna shy away from it. And do I 879 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: think Marcus Freeman is a better recruiter than Brian Kelly. Probably? Honestly, 880 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: he probably is. Would I be shocked if Marcus convinced 881 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: a few more of those guys to come up the 882 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. No, because I think he's a guy that 883 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: that understands how to communicate. He's kind of in between 884 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: you talk about coaching millennials, he's kind of in between 885 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: the new era and the old era and understands, you know, 886 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: with social media and stuff like that and really how 887 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: to communicate. Uh. So, you know, I think they're just 888 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: that they're that front seven, like you mentioned, those missing 889 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: pieces away from not just getting to the dance, being 890 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: able to boogie a little bit. Well, one thing with 891 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: the with this transfer portal and a lot of the 892 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: lot of the big teams Oklahoma, Ohio, State, Alabama have 893 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: have GMS and personnel departments. But I think every Power 894 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: five team and even the good non Power five teams, 895 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: right like Fresno States and the ucfs of the world, 896 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: are gonna have to have GMS and like several people 897 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: in their not just working on recruiting. But when seven 898 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: guys from the Big twelve, I mean, hell's quadruple that 899 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: number fifty guys, how do you go through all the film? 900 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: In the NFL, we have scouting departments that kind of 901 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: funnel it through the coaches. And I understand the coaches 902 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: in college act as scouts, right because they're ultimately recruiting 903 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: the guy, but they only have so much time during 904 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: the day. Do you think it's inevitable that over the 905 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: next decade, especially with the money that's flowing in now, 906 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: that every Power five team not only has a Head 907 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: of personnel slash GM, but like three or four full 908 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: time employees working in a department, Yeah, you're gonna have it. 909 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to add another wing to the recruiting 910 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: department just because you're adding more prospects. I mean like 911 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: you said, and that's just one example. I mean you 912 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: look across the country and it's not just Division one. 913 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: There's some really good FCS offensive linemen out there that 914 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: teams need. So yeah, somebody's gonna have to be able 915 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: to manage it. You're gonna have to have three to 916 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: four people. I mean you add that with n I 917 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: L Now with the intake rule changing. You know, in 918 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: the past you can only sign scholarship guys per year. 919 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: They bumped up to thirty two. Uh, so you're adding, 920 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, more prospects per season. So at the end 921 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: of the day, you and you know this, John, you 922 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: have to not leave no stone unturned and you have 923 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: to have an answer for every guy that's out there, 924 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: because that guy could be the missing piece that you 925 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: need to be able to flip a roster because it 926 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: all comes down to roster structure. And however you're able 927 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: to to delegate power to the people that work underneath 928 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: you that can help lend you to have better roster structure. 929 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: There's a reason Nick Sabans so good at what he does. 930 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: Probably what he's best at is structuring his roster. Bamma 931 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: never loses too much. At one point in time up 932 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: front on either side of the ball at the same time, 933 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: and that's the goal. That's the trick. So yeah, I agree, 934 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: you're and again not like they don't have the money. Now, 935 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: what's your take or like when you talk to other 936 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: college coaches when I don't know if it's been official yet, 937 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: like Lincoln Riley, people have just transferred already to USC, 938 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: but it kind of feels inevitable that some guys at 939 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: Oklahoma are gonna end up at USC. This year, Kalin 940 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: Dubor takes the Washington job boom within a day, his quarterback, 941 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: who's an NFL guy, you know, late round guy, transfer 942 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: from prosil state the next day. When you talk to 943 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: college coaches, are they piste off? They think it's shady? 944 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: What's their take depends on what side you're on. If 945 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: you're the side going, it's all good. If you're the 946 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: side that's gonna taken, it's bs. And you know, I 947 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: talked about this when they when they decided to not 948 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: penalize guys for transferring. And I've always been if the 949 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: head coach leaves, you should be able to transfer, not 950 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, not the quarterback coach, but at the 951 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: head coach leaves that you signed with, you should be 952 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: able to transfer with no penalty. What I think is 953 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: interesting is when these coaches. If if I get called 954 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: from USC halfway through the year and I know I'm going, 955 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying Lincoln did this? Are you not 956 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,959 Speaker 1: whispering in some of those players ears, Hey, Jaden hazel Wood, 957 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: Hey you know kaylin are Haynter? You know we may 958 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: be making a move or something. The tampering part of 959 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: it is what I worry. And all of a sudden, 960 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: you know you're you're bringing a new staff somewhere. If 961 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: I meant, for example, Auburn and we're playing Texas A 962 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: and M, and I'm looking at like, man, Texas A 963 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: and M has got two really good freshman offensive linemen 964 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: that are playing. And I go hire Texas A and 965 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: M's offensive line coach and they love him, and I 966 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: get those two. It's look, there's going to be some 967 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: MF thrown around on some phone calls. I just to me, 968 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: it's it's once you open Pandora's box, it's very hard 969 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: to close it. And I really do worry about um. 970 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, they're being some tampering going on, not only 971 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: during the year, but after the year, and I just 972 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, the thing that makes the college game and 973 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: and and you know, I'm sure you're on the other 974 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: side of this. The best of my opinion is, while 975 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: it is not the purest thing of all time, it 976 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: is a pure form of the sport. And I think 977 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: we're going away in a way and away from that. 978 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: And I do somewhat worry about that. Yeah, I think 979 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: we've only scratched the service of the transfer portal. I 980 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: mean that there are gonna be some historic, you know, 981 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: stories that come out over the next three or four 982 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: years that are gonna be I'm gonna get you out 983 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: here on this. Um. Let's play a game. So they 984 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 1: gave you a hundred thousand dollars and you could bet 985 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: on one of these two guys as to be like 986 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: a bitcoin, right and twenty extra money. One of these 987 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: guys is the next Kirby Smarter Lincoln Riley, And I 988 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: think there's two of them, you know. I keep my 989 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: ears in the streets of the SEC people. And uh, 990 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,479 Speaker 1: the Georgia defensive coordinator Dan Landing has thirty five years old, 991 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: did some research Star makes Like makes like over a 992 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: million dollars old Miss offensive coordinator who went to play 993 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, got injured, kind of had a Lincoln Riley 994 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: start just being a student assistant, so he started coaching 995 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: when he was eighteen four. Bob stoops, Jeff Levy is 996 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: now Lane Kiffens o c who calls the place and 997 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: who's I've been told a star. You had to pick 998 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: one of these two guys to bet that hundred thousand 999 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: dollars to be the next Bitcoin of coaching? Which one 1000 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: are you? Are you staking your money too? Man? You 1001 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: know it's I think they're both gonna be really good, 1002 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: but I'd go Jeff Levy. Uh, you know I number one. 1003 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Levy is really tight with Arch Manning, So I'm 1004 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: very interested to see how that works out. He's actually 1005 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: tighter with Arch Manning than than the than Blank Kiffin is. 1006 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: But you know that why is that? Are they just 1007 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: they've known each other for a long time? Well, you know, 1008 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: it's funny, like it's such a small circle. I mean, 1009 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 1: Jeff Levy grew up in you know, was Kendall Brile's 1010 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: best friend. Uh, And you know the Briles and the 1011 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: Mannings know each other, and it's just that they've known 1012 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: of each other, and I think they've kind of gravitated 1013 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: towards Jeff a little bit more. I think Jeff's been 1014 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more involved to uh in that recruitment 1015 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: from an early standpoint. But look, I think Jeff is 1016 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: a little more ready than Dan is. I think Jeff 1017 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: has as a few more answers offensively, because again, we 1018 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: know it's an offensive game. It's about scoring points and 1019 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: defense is very important. Look at Georgia right now and 1020 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: what they're doing, and Dan's unbelievable, But I think Jeff 1021 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: is a little bit further ahead. Uh. And and I 1022 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, if I had to bet money on it, 1023 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I wouldn't be shocked if if 1024 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: Venables or you know, whoever got the job at Oklahoma, 1025 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: if Jeff wasn't a candidate for that, Why would Why 1026 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't Oklahoma High or Levy? Is he just it's risky. 1027 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean they did the same thing with Lincoln. I 1028 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: guess he was already there. But you know, to me, 1029 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know a d percent everything that's going on 1030 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: behind the scenes there. Um, So I don't want to 1031 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: speak out of turn, but I would be shocked if 1032 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: they went to Jeff as a head coach. I think 1033 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: Jeff may have to take the route of a high 1034 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 1: group of five or maybe a low p five before 1035 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: he gets that bigger one. I think Dan's gonna be 1036 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: the same way. But I think Jeff just from an 1037 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: offensive mind schematically the way he's able to evolve, you know, 1038 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: Kiffin rubbing off on him as well, I would say Jeff. 1039 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: And I think Jeff's the hell of a recruiter too. 1040 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Dan's awesome, The players love him. He gets 1041 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: after it. You watch him interacting, it's great stuff. But 1042 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: Jeff kind of goes about it a different way. Well, 1043 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: I got one for you, then, why doesn't And I've 1044 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: been thinking this watching Bob recruit. Why doesn't Bob just 1045 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: come back, take a little less money and give Jeff 1046 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: uh a large summer cash to come be his offensive coordinator. 1047 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: They already know each other arch manning and then transition 1048 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: like they did with Lincoln Riley Boom Salved. Look, well, 1049 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma's got a couple of a couple of 1050 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: options that I think would be good, and then those 1051 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: would be one of them. You know, Bob Stoops is Oklahoma. 1052 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: You know I went, I know he went on there 1053 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: and said, you know, Oklahoma is bigger than any coach, this, 1054 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: that and the other. But again, just like I said, 1055 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: when I think at USC, I think of Pete Carroll. 1056 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: When I think of Oklahoma, I think of Bob Stoops. 1057 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't think of of Lincoln Riley. I thought it 1058 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: was interesting, you know, Bob gets the job as the 1059 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: interim I thought it maybe a play to get Mark 1060 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: Stoops to go to Oklahoma. But you can really tell 1061 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma got caught flat footed on this thing. Yeah, you 1062 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: could Bob come back. Do you think that's crazy? Just 1063 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: to kind of help, you know, I think that settle 1064 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: everything for a couple of years because the landscape has 1065 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: changed so much, and let's not forget you know, Bob 1066 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: Stoops wasn't in love with recruiting. You know that that 1067 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: was one thing that's but you know, you look at 1068 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: the landscape of college football right now. I think he'd 1069 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 1: be fine. I mean, look, Bob, you look at Bobby. 1070 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, he don't look much older than he 1071 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: was when he left. I mean, look fantastic. That's fantastic. 1072 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: So I don't think they could go wrong there. I 1073 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: think he'd be a great fit and they could surround 1074 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: him with the head coach and waiting tag. I guess 1075 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: you could say with a guy like Jeff Letty. No, 1076 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't think that's a bad idea. 1077 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: What I'm interested to see is a Dabos we need 1078 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: or Brent Vnables make the move out there. That's what 1079 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. Do you think that's possible? Yes? 1080 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: I do. Okay, Well, Jay boy, have a great day, 1081 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: have a great weekend. SEC. It doesn't get any better. 1082 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: I I once had Brett Veach, who's now the GM 1083 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, was an assistant. He was going to 1084 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: the SEC championship game. He said, this was a decade ago. 1085 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: Every team has to be represented at the SEC Championship game. 1086 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 1: It's it's one of those unwritten rules. You know, every 1087 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: team is represented with the scout at GM. There's just 1088 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,399 Speaker 1: too much talent in the game. That's exactly right. Well, 1089 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: you know when when when Roger Clemens was on the 1090 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: Mountain High School, a lot of scouts showed up. They 1091 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: want to see the best players play. And that's if 1092 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: you're going to find that the two best teams in 1093 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 1: the best conference. So there's look, there's so many NFL 1094 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: players are gonna be running around that field Saturday. It's ridiculous. 1095 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Well. Listen every Day Jay Boy Show 1096 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: Live on the Volumes YouTube channel three to four Eastern 1097 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: Apple iTunes easy to listen to on podcast I do 1098 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: basically daily. Thanks, Bro, appreciate it. Keep crushing John anytime. 1099 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you on Sue brother Less link later, Bro, Later. 1100 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: Let's dive into a little mail bag. We call it 1101 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: the middle Cop mail Bag. Slide up into those d 1102 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: m s at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Um, you 1103 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: guys know the drill. Slide up in and get your 1104 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: question answered here on the show. I got a lot 1105 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 1: of questions flowing question for the bag from Stephen. While 1106 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: looking up at some of the potential draft spots for 1107 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: next year's draft, I stumbled upon the Jets, Giants, and 1108 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: Eagles possibly having two picks in the top ten. Do 1109 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,840 Speaker 1: you think this could be a once in a decade 1110 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: draft for any of those teams were more likely trading 1111 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: pieces to try to improve. I feel like the Eagles 1112 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: specifically could use a push themselves uh up top in 1113 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: the NFC East, But the Giants and Jets desperately need 1114 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: more depth. Well, I think if a guy named Russell Wilson, 1115 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: who happens to be a quarterback that we think might 1116 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: be on the move, becomes available, I think the Giants 1117 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: and the Eagle will lock in like uh, you know, 1118 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: General Schwartz cough on a mission, you know, and point 1119 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: their resources to attempt to do that. And I think 1120 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 1: both teams would be heavily, heavily involved in the Russell 1121 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: Wilson sweepstakes if he demands a trade. So first and foremost, 1122 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: that's where I think those two teams would try to do. 1123 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: And if I put myself in Russell's shoes, I'm not 1124 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: playing for Joe Judge. I I I can't now, Sirianni. 1125 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like he's proven much either, but 1126 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: at least he's an offensive play color who has just 1127 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: some different pitches in his bag. You know, Freddie Kitchens 1128 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: their offensive court. You think Russell Will's gonna be playing 1129 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: for Freddie Kitchens. I have a hard time seeing that. 1130 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: So I I think both those teams will be all 1131 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,479 Speaker 1: over Russell. Does Dallas need to hit the panic button? 1132 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: Going one in three in the last four games. Well, 1133 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm recording this before the Thursday night game, which I'm 1134 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: gonna assume they're gonna win. Uh, as part of this conversation, Yeah, 1135 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean they they need to just get their swag back. 1136 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: They're paying their quarterback forty million dollars to play better. 1137 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott needs to play better. You can't play a 1138 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: premium for anything in life and not get the r 1139 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 1: o I And the last several weeks he just hasn't, 1140 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 1: you know, been good enough, period, point blank, end of story. 1141 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: Same thing with Matt Stafford, Like once you're a thirty 1142 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback, I'm all in on you. I need 1143 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: you to carry the franchise. You're allowed bad games. We 1144 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 1: all have bad weeks. We're fucking humans, right, No, football 1145 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: players are no different than the sales guy. You're allowed 1146 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: to have a bad a bad day, a bad week. 1147 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: You can't have a bad month, not when I'm paying 1148 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: you that much money. Like Lincoln Riley is allowed to 1149 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,919 Speaker 1: lose a game or two. You can't go six and six, 1150 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 1: not what I'm paying you a hundred million, right, Like 1151 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, You've got a hundred million dollars, not nine 1152 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 1: or ninety five. Maybe, like you can have a down 1153 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: year at E nine and three, but seven and five 1154 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be allowed. So it's no different with quarterbacks. 1155 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: It's on the quarterback. And if you're listening to this, 1156 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: hopefully Dakoda Prescott played Sliding in Your Damn's Love. The 1157 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: pod heard you through column. I'm from Louisiana and I'm 1158 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: an l s U fan, but I graduated from law Tech. 1159 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: I've been there rust in Louisiana. I don't really have 1160 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: a question for you, but something that I'm not hearing anywhere. 1161 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: Super excited for Brian Kelly, but tired of hearing he's 1162 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: an outsider. He is, but he's a Catholic. This is 1163 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna be go a long way recruiting in Louisiana. South 1164 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 1: Louisiana is a majority Catholic and a big football school 1165 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge is Catholic High. I haven't heard anyone 1166 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: make this point on anything I read or listen. I 1167 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: agree religion is a major, major UH connector in the South. 1168 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: That much is not arguable. You know, it's a big reason, 1169 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,760 Speaker 1: like there are some values in my life, like I'm 1170 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: very very If you listen to this, it is pretty 1171 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: obvious fiscally conservative, like Ei lean right when it comes 1172 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: to money. But I am the anti of a religious person. 1173 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: I'm not religious at all. There's nothing against it. I mean, 1174 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: my mom tried to take me to Catechism class, and 1175 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: I just I'm just not a religious guy at all. 1176 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: I'm not an atheist, but I just I don't really 1177 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: know what I am. But I'm just not religious. And 1178 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: I I that's something where I'm a big believer in, 1179 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: Like why Dabbo and Kirby and something Bobby Bowden like 1180 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,959 Speaker 1: they really work in the South because that matters. So yeah, 1181 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: that should help him out a lot. Most of us 1182 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: on the West Coast, like and maybe I'm over generalizing here, 1183 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: ain't going to church every Sunday. So it's why I know, 1184 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: I don't like West Coast guys going to the South, 1185 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 1: just like I don't like I don't think Dabbo would 1186 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 1: work at USC because he's he'd be preaching religious stuff 1187 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: which works in his program. That would not work out here. 1188 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: It would fall on deaf ears. So you know, it 1189 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: does matter. But I think a huge part of being 1190 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,280 Speaker 1: an insider, or you know, considering Brian Kelly an outsider 1191 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 1: is so the way you talk, right, Hell I'm probably 1192 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: more country than Brian Kelly. My dad was a farmer. 1193 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: I listen to country music, you know, I mean Brian 1194 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: Kelly that there's a difference between yes, share her religious 1195 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: uh similarities, and being just kind of one of them. 1196 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: The way they live their life. That to me. And 1197 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: the pace of life, right, the pace of life in 1198 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: the South is actually much closer to what we have 1199 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: in the West. We're in the northeast, Chicago and East 1200 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: fast paced, very very quick. We're chiller, you know, and 1201 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you in the South. It's just it's just 1202 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: slower pace. Brian Kelly and a slow paced guy. Now, 1203 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: neither's Nick Saban, but he has just and I know 1204 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: he's from West Virginia, but let's face it, he has 1205 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: just Southern characteristics. By the way, what are your thoughts 1206 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: on Burrow verse hurt Herbert matchup this week? The last 1207 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: time they met Opening weekend, it was great game. I 1208 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: watched the Bengals game the other night, uh, or actually 1209 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: the other day on the StairMaster Bengals Pittsburgh Steelers. The 1210 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: Bengals offense is awesome. You know. Burrow is a stud. 1211 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase is a baller, Joe Mixon is probably a 1212 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: top five running back. I never include him with Dalvin Cook, 1213 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Derrick Henry and uh, who's the other guy 1214 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: I always leave out? Sorry if I'm leaving out your 1215 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,479 Speaker 1: star running back. But you know, you know the crew, 1216 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: he's right there. He is really really good. And Boyd 1217 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: and Higgins say one thing for uh for the Bengals 1218 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: when they're good, and they're good a lot more often 1219 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: than they're bad. I was texting with someone the other 1220 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: day actually holds the producer of this podcast, and I 1221 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the Bengals get like lumped in 1222 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: like they're the Raiders with the Lions. They have nothing 1223 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: in common with those franchises. They go to the playoffs 1224 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: all the time. They win this game, they're going back 1225 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,720 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. They've got into the playoffs with multiple 1226 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: head coaches, right, they went multiple times when Carson Palmer 1227 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: got there with Marvin Lewis wants Carson Palmer bounced. I 1228 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: guess Marvin Lewis would have been the coach back then too. 1229 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 1: But multiple quarterbacks. They'll have three different quarterbacks taking him 1230 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: to the to the playoffs. It Burrow does Burrow, Dalton 1231 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 1: and Palmer right, So I I just think that the 1232 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: Bangles are good there. At least their offense is good 1233 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: and if their defense plays well, which is gonna be 1234 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: much more difficult this week against her Birth than it 1235 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: was against Roethlisberger. I'm fascinating to see it because I 1236 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm I was excited watching the Bengals. I was impressed. 1237 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: Uh started listening to podcast not long ago. I heard 1238 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: your segment on Brandon Staley and the Chargers, and as 1239 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: a fan, I do agree. I think he's a little 1240 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: over his head. My question is what could be some solutions. 1241 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: Obviously our owner doesn't care enough to ever pay for 1242 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: a stadium, but being the last in the league and 1243 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: rush defense, I don't I don't know, man. I think 1244 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: it's he's the defensive coordinator, so their offense feels a 1245 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: little off and their defense is not good. Well, the 1246 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: defense is his baby. He's not an offensive guy, so 1247 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: what's he gonna do to help Herbert out? He brings 1248 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: in Lombardi, who uh you know, comes from the Saints. 1249 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: It's just it just feels off. You just watch him 1250 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: and go there underachieving. They have too much talent to 1251 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: not be better than they are. Like they're six and 1252 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: five to meet through eleven games, the Chargers should be like, 1253 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, eight and four. I guess that wouldn't 1254 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: add up to eleven eight and three. Hell, even seven 1255 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: and four to me feels a little bit more like 1256 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,959 Speaker 1: their talent. But yeah, I don't I don't know. It's 1257 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: a great question. That's why you always go these cheap 1258 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: coaches and listen, he's an impressive guy, but experience matters. 1259 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong Jets fan, and it's pretty terrible. I 1260 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: can imagine. I can't figure out why we can never 1261 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: seem to get it together. Even when we have some 1262 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: success like Rex, you know, nine and ten and herm 1263 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands, we can never seem to 1264 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: sustain it. And for the last ten years we've basically 1265 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: been dogshit. I've heard nothing but great things about Joe Douglas, 1266 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: and while he's made some moves I like, like the 1267 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: Jamal Adam trades, it looks like he's completely blue the 1268 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 1: Wilson pick and he can't get their offensive line straight. 1269 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: And Sala also was promising as a coach but seems 1270 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: completely over his head with this kind of sustained futility 1271 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 1: I think I chalk it up to ownership being never 1272 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: really hear anything terrible about the Johnson's. They're not some 1273 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: chronic medallers like Jerry Jones are always doing looney ship 1274 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,959 Speaker 1: like Jim Rcay. Jim er Say is a good owner. 1275 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: He might be looney, but his teams consistently win. Like 1276 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: we Jim Ercy, we make I make fun of a lot. 1277 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he got caught with fifty K and cash 1278 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: and a bunch of pills. Clearly has had some drinking issues, 1279 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: but his team's like, I think he's a really good owner. Yeah, 1280 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: both of their teams are always decent. I feel like 1281 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm rambling a bit, but I guess what I'm asking 1282 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: for is why do the Jets perennially suck well? To me, 1283 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: it always starts at the top right, ship rolls downhill. 1284 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: That's why the best you know, when I bought the 1285 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: condo I live in, I'm at the top of the 1286 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: building and there have been plumbing issues in this complex right, 1287 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: and for the amount we have to spend in the 1288 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: Bay Area, I can't imagine. And I almost bought a 1289 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: condo on the other side of where I'm living now 1290 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: at the bottom and I heard like two years ago 1291 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: it got flooded, and it's just when I go to 1292 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: the bathroom or when I take a shower, all the 1293 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: water goes down. And it's the same thing. In the 1294 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: hierarchy of a football team of any business, it starts 1295 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: at the top. I don't know the Johnson's besides that 1296 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: they are incredibly wealthy, but they own a team that 1297 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: consistently loses for whatever reason. Now, Joe Douglas, they're gonna 1298 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: win or lose based on Zack Wilson. They drafted Zack 1299 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Wilson number two overall. If he becomes a top ten quarterback, 1300 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: they will be good. If he doesn't, they're fucked, period, 1301 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: point blank. It's not that complicated, and it's all gonna 1302 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: be a good head coach. I don't know, Like he's 1303 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: a CEO head coach at thirty nine, forty years old, Like, Bro, 1304 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,439 Speaker 1: you were just hired to call the defense. I don't. 1305 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't love the CEO head coach. Be like, well 1306 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: what about Tomlin? Yeah, I'd take Mike's an outlier. What 1307 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: about Nick Saban? Nick Saban seven years old? Same with Bill. 1308 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna be a CEO, like I 1309 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: like my CEOs to be a little older. Every once 1310 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: in a while you can find a theo Epstein at 1311 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: thirty nine. I would say time and time again, they're 1312 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: proven to be not the norm. Right, most young coaches 1313 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: in the league that are having success. Look at the floor, 1314 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Look at Kyle, look at McVeigh. They're all calling plays. 1315 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Look at some of the younger or I mean older 1316 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: good offensive coaches Sean Payton and Andy Reid. Even Matt Rule. 1317 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: Like Matt Rule, he's an impressive guy. He's a CEO 1318 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: head coach, But like, what do they do well? I 1319 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: just like my guy to call plays. I just do so. 1320 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 1: It's just the simple answer is they're gonna need Zack 1321 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Wilson to be good. They're just gonna need him to 1322 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: become a star because when you draft a guy number 1323 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: two overall, you're expecting a star player should see out 1324 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: of the After Kellen Moore for the head coaching job, 1325 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: I think it would make a lot of sense. But 1326 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 1: to me, the only way I'm hiring Kelly Moore like Kellen, 1327 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: if I'm hiring you as my head coach, which listen, 1328 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 1: I I cape for Kellen Moore. I watched his career 1329 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: at Boise State. I was on the sideline for multiple 1330 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: seasons when we played him at Fresident State and he 1331 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: kicked her ass. His dad is a famous high school coach, 1332 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 1: his brother is a star young coach at Fresno State. 1333 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Kellen is from the state of Washington. I think it 1334 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. But if I'm hiring him, 1335 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: he's calling the place under no circumstances, and my hiring 1336 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: me to be my head coach. If he's not my 1337 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: offensive play caller, I'm expecting Sean mcveigy, Matt Lafleur, Kyle Shanahan. 1338 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm not doing CEO Robert Sala. So if Kellen Moore 1339 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: wants to be in my head coach, I would do it, 1340 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: especially if that keeps Russell. But he has to call 1341 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the place. That's part of the contract. There's no like, 1342 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, I'll just hire a suite offensive play caller. 1343 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: That would not work. I heard Colin Enjoy talking about 1344 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Russ being really high on Miami and the Giants. How 1345 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: real is this? If they part with Pete and get 1346 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: an offensive guy, That to me, like, hey, hey, hey, 1347 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 1: Russell and I talked about this on my other podcast. 1348 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: I didn't guy brought it up? Do you know that Russell, 1349 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: like most top quarterbacks in the league, just think of 1350 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: like the last three or four of the last couple 1351 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: of decades, Peyton, Brady, uh Roethlisberger, Breeze. They get their 1352 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: guys head coaching jobs. Do you know what happens to 1353 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's offensive coordinators? They get fired, They don't become 1354 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators anymore. Their careers go to die with Russell. 1355 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: That's not an opinion, that's a fact you go to. 1356 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: If you went to coach Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, 1357 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: you became a multimillionaire because they've turned you into head coach. 1358 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: You gotta coach for Russell Wilson, you get the pink slip. 1359 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 1: Your career comes to a screeching halt. So like you 1360 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: could argue, if you're Kellen Moore, like do you want 1361 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: to hit your wagon to Russell Wilson? Pretty risky and listen. 1362 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm a Russell fan. I think he's one of the 1363 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: most remarkable players I've ever seen. I've seen him play 1364 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 1: live three or four times, and every time I've seen 1365 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: him live he's he's incredible. But for whatever reason and 1366 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: so I'm a Russell the player fan, but there there's 1367 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: more than that to be a quarterback, and for whatever 1368 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: reason his coaches end up on the street or like 1369 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: with the Jags, where I think Schottenheimer and Bebel both 1370 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the are uh mail back question? Would Jim finally getting 1371 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: success at Michigan beating Ohio State, will he run if 1372 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: the NFL calls? I know Mark Davis listen to John 1373 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Madden a lot. Should Jim be considered for the Raider job? 1374 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 1: What if Jim Harbaugh upsets Georgia wins the National Championship? 1375 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: If the Raiders are They'd have to be nuts to 1376 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 1: not off from the job. Now would he leave Michigan 1377 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: he accomplished everything he set out to accomplish. I don't 1378 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: think it would be crazy, Especially they have car they 1379 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: could build a team there. I think it would make 1380 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 1: some sense. I think Mark Davis, you know, pivoting from 1381 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 1: Gruden to go to Jim Harbaugh Las Vegas. I I 1382 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: could see that, I really could. I love the proud 1383 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: appreciate your authenticity? Do you think, Brady? I always get that, 1384 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: like I appreciate your authenticity? Do most people? It's kind 1385 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: of sad how fake most people are. I was thinking 1386 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: about this last like, I've never been a great politician. 1387 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: That's why I had to become an entrepreneur because the 1388 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: corporate world you have to be I can't fake it. 1389 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: I I just I could a little bit in my 1390 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: twenties part of it, like I was working for high 1391 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: level people and if faking it's the wrong word, I 1392 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: would just bite my tongue. But the older I get, 1393 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I I just I don't know how, especially some of 1394 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 1: these people that talk for a living, they just they 1395 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: they're just completely they don't even say what they mean. 1396 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: How how do they do this? I mean, I don't 1397 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: know how people live. Do you think Brady will ever 1398 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: be as popular as beloved is Peyton Manning? Similar in golf, 1399 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 1: Jack one more, but Arnie was always loved more by 1400 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: the fans. Do you think that the fans will come 1401 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 1: around on Brady when he retires. I actually think that 1402 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Brady is basically Jack and already combined because in New 1403 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: England he's uh, he's a saint, he's a beloved religious figure. 1404 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 1: He become that in Tampa. I think he's the most 1405 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: famous NFL player in the history of league. So I 1406 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 1: I think what Tom Brady actually is, if I want 1407 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: to use a golf analogy, he's Jack Arndy mixed with Tiger. 1408 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Like I that's I really think it's he's that big 1409 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. And I love Peyton Manning. He was easy 1410 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: my favorite player in high school in college and I 1411 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: desperately rooted for him. One of my the coolest moments 1412 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: I remember as a fan was just watching him have 1413 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: that comeback in the a f C Championship against Tom. 1414 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: I think the score was seven and a half. They 1415 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: were playing at Indie, and Peyton later led him on 1416 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: the scorching come back, and I remember just being so 1417 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean fun. It's not like I knew the guy, 1418 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: but I was just so proud as a Peyton Manning 1419 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Homer that he pulled that off and then he won 1420 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and it was just so awesome. But 1421 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: I think Tom's on a completely different level. And obviously 1422 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Peyton's fame is, you know, second to none. Like Honestly, 1423 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 1: I think the golf analogy there is like Tiger and Phil, 1424 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: Like Phil is an enormous superstar, but he ain't Tiger. 1425 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 1: Same thing with Peyton and Tom. But both those two 1426 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: guys kind of defined the game, right I'm a diehard 1427 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Seahawks fan. There, the Seahawks fans are on edge right now. 1428 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what shows you when you get used 1429 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 1: to winning as a fan, Losing sucks. There is nothing 1430 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: like watching a winner for a long sustained period of 1431 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: time and then like and then losing. Imagine being like 1432 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: a Raider Reliance fan when all you've watched for like 1433 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 1: two decades is losing or the Browns like it, really, 1434 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, start thinking, if you're ever really down, think 1435 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: about that, like I could be rooting for the way 1436 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: worst teams that always lose. Like you've had ten years 1437 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, going Super Bowls, hosting playoff games. 1438 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 1: NFL is tough, man, You're you're bound to have some 1439 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, rough years. You know. The question is Pete 1440 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Carroll Donne. He's owed a ton of money. I bet 1441 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 1: they own million dollars now. Luckily they have a ton 1442 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: of money. I think everything's gonna be on the table, 1443 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: uh I, I do expect. Russell Wilson asked for a trade. 1444 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: They lose this weekend, they'd be three and nine. It's 1445 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna it's only gonna get uglier. It really is. Their 1446 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 1: offense sucks, so it's tough times. Man. Just keep just 1447 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 1: keep the hope, keep the hope. But it could be 1448 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 1: if you trade Russell, it could be a long couple 1449 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: of years. Appreciate everyone DM and me, Appreciate everyone who 1450 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 1: interacts the show. I'm grateful for everyone. And uh, this 1451 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 1: opportunity that Colin afforded me years ago in the growth 1452 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: of this show, it's been fun. I appreciate it. And 1453 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: luckily on here we can say whatever the hell we 1454 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: want and we'll keep doing that and we'll keep pumping 1455 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 1: out pods. Have a great day, Audios. The volume