1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, I chose not to work on his car. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's within the mechanics, right. I think 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: a mechanic has the right not to have to work 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: on every day. And I think the conversation is respectfully 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: the clon no thank you, no. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: Moment, no thank you please, it only makes this need. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: Then it makes him. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: How to find my doll? The car doctor. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: On the regulator, there's an A and then I and 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: then F and then F. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Where's where does the idea guy? 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: As it goes to a white wire. 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: That goes to the fuse box, so that means it's power. 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: So that means the back of the alternator that I 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: terminal must be twelve vaults. 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor. 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: This is where car owners the world overturned to for 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six ninety nine. 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: Hundred and now pee. 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 4: Running. 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Did I tell you the story about the UH seven 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Ford that we had problems with recently. It's just kind 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: of a classic case of you know, when things go wrong, 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: but they end up right, and it happens. You know, 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: we had an O seven f one fifty. We've worked 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: on this truck for a long time now, we've gotten 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: to know it very well. It's it's it's basically a 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: plow vehicle. It's an O seven. It's got sixty seven 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. It doesn't have a lot of miles. 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: Shows you how little use it really gets, you know, 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: and it's being affected by rust and agent whether and 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: it sits around a lot. The uh person that owns 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: it just uses the plow the driveway out. They've got 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: a bigger house off the road and they need to 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: get out to the main road during winter months. So 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's kind of a plow vehicle and that's 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: all they do with it, and you know, little jobs 42 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: and odd things around the house and so forth. But 43 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: you know, it's not the daily driver. So the complaint 44 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: was the red brake light comes on at the dashboard, 45 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: flickers on and off, and we got the vehicle, didn't 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: see it, saw no red brake light. No matter what 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: we did, we couldn't get the red brake light to 48 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: come on. So, you know, there's two reasons why the 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: red brake light will come on on this vehicle, like 50 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: most vehicles, it's either a fault with the parking brake 51 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: switch or the parking brake. You know, you push down 52 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: the parking break the red brake light comes on, excuse me. 53 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Or you will see low fluid in the master cylinder. 54 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Or it could be a bad float sensor in the 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: master cylinder and either one of those tool caused the 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: red brakelight to come on. So we didn't see a 57 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: red brake light on. We couldn't duplicate it no matter 58 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: what we did. We drove it and nothing happened. And 59 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, we took the liddle off the master cylinder, 60 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: we looked at the sensor. We gently pushed down on 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: the sensor. It didn't come up. Red brake lights stayed on, AHA, 62 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: because the fluid was a little on the low side. 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Because it turns out it needed front brakes. The front 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: pads were just a NAT's eye lash away from going 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: metal on metal, and the fluid level was low enough that, yeah, 66 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: you could see that, you know, on a turn uphill 67 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: downhill you know, some some sloshing the fluid around, maybe 68 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: the float comes in contact and would turn the light 69 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: on and it wouldn't come back up. The light was 70 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: on at that point. All right, here's what we're gonna do. 71 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, and it's a plow vehicle. Did 72 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: I tell you that part? I think I did, so. 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: You know it's pads, rotters, calipers, all right, because you 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: could see one side of the caliper, the inboard pad 75 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: was faster, was wearing faster than the other on one side. 76 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: The other side had a break hose that was bulging. 77 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: So it needed some mechanical repairs to the break system. Pads, rotters, caliper, soses, 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: and I put a master on it. It's fifteen years old. 79 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: The sensor was sticking, the fluid was getting dirty, which 80 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: it'll do from lack of use. Right, you know, break 81 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: fluid absorbs moisture seven to ten percent a year. It's hygroscopic, 82 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: and it will absorb moisture and show contamination and break down. 83 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: So let's put a master on the vehicle. It's it's time. 84 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: You know. 85 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: One of the other things I always say, I mean 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: this sincerely, is we're running out of parts. All right, 87 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: older vehicles. If you can get parts now and you're 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: planning to keep it, and Rick the owner was planning 89 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: to keep it, Let's do it now. Let's get it done. 90 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: Padro Caliber's hoses, master cylinder, float level sensor moved good, Hey, 91 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: we're done. Took it around the block. Red brake light 92 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: came on. HM, well, at least we got brakes, so 93 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: we dove a little deeper. Couldn't get it to happen again, 94 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: couldn't get it to happen, drove it. The light went out, 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: and it just kept behaving itself. It's been a while 96 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: since I've seen an seven f one to fifty on 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: a regular basis. I went through my notes and I 98 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: started reading again, which is why I keep notes in 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: the first place, And then it hit me. These were 100 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: common for instrument cluster faults. The instrument cluster itself would 101 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: fail and have its issues. So I took the top 102 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: of the dash apart, and you know, the connector on 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the left side was where the feeds came in through 104 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: the break light switch going down to the red brake light. 105 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: And sure enough, if I kind of wiggled and gently 106 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: massaged that left connector, the brake light would go on, 107 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: the brake light would go out. Ah, we need a 108 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: cluster repair. Sent it out for cluster repair, and I 109 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: could prove this very you know, hardcore. Every time, got 110 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: it to do it, sent it out for cluster repair, 111 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: brought it back, took it around the block vehicles fixed 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: what's right? What's wrong? Nothing? You know, sometimes you got 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: to fix the obvious. You have to fix known bad. 114 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: I say this to you all the time. All right, 115 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: you can't ignore the failures of other parts of the 116 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: vehicle and repair. Well, I'm going to fix the red 117 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: brake light. You know what, The red brake light's not unsafe. 118 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't. It contradicts what's really going on, but it's 119 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: not unsafe. No brakes is unsafe. Poor breaks is unsafe. 120 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: And Rick got it. He understood one hundred percent. And 121 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: as he said to me, he said, you know, Ron, 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: a new plow truck is sixty five thousand dollars. A 123 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: stripped boy, what's wrong? What's wrong with this picture? Right? 124 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: A strip that f one point fifty they'll take A 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: plow is sixty grand, sixty five thousand bucks. Now it's 126 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just crazy. Now, the argument 127 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: could be made, well, he could hire somebody to plow 128 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: the driveway, but I think I think, in all honesty, 129 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: I think that's Rick's moment of sanity that he gets 130 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: to go out there and play push the snow, and 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, he just gets to. He enjoys that, you know, 132 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: and I get that, you know, like listen, I enjoy 133 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: cutting the lawn sometimes and you know, just that moment 134 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: of solitude when you're out there and about. So I 135 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: guess the point of this as we kick off this 136 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: hour of the car Doctor, is just you know, Yeah, 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: there's no rule that says it's any one thing. There's 138 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: no rule that says, you know, we can't look at 139 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: the rest of the vehicle, nor shouldn't we look at 140 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the vehicle. The rule is fix the 141 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: vehicle and make it safe, make it right. You know, 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: when the systems are failing, you've got to either make 143 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: a commitment or get out from under. Kevin brought in 144 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: his seven Ford edge this week. About three weeks ago, 145 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: he was driving around visiting his mom in upstate New 146 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: York and the oil pressure light came on and he 147 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: stopped at his mom's repair shop up in that neck 148 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: of the woods and he needed an oil pressure sending unit. 149 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: He had a switch failure. So they did that, and 150 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: three weeks later he's dropped it off with the shop 151 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: because he collected a bunch of dash lights, ABS, traction control, 152 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: the wrench maintenance light came on, the TPMs light came on, 153 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: no check engine light, just about everything else. And when 154 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: I scanned it, it had a fault code P zero 155 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: seven twenty two, which indicates a problem in the output 156 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: shift speed sensor circuit. Some research talked about based on 157 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: the vincode and the date of the vehicle's assembly, it 158 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: could have a problem in the wiring harness, It could 159 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: be a problem with the sensor, so on and so forth, 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: and you know on research to do that sensor, it's 161 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: down deep in the bowels of the transmission. The transmission 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: has to actually come apart. And I said to Kevin, 163 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: I said, Kevin, are you committed to this vehicle one 164 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand miles fifteen years old? Are you 165 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: ready to you know, get deep into the bowels of 166 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: the trans and you know, possibly do a sensor. Dude, 167 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, we could do a deep dive, which we 168 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: would have to for a diagnosis. Do we need to 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: look at wiring? You know, there's a bunch of things 170 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: to consider here. No, he says it's time to get 171 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: rid of it. I'm done, and that's the difference. The 172 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: point becomes both vehicles are O seven's, But Rick was 173 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm hanging onto this, fix everything. I want it right. 174 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: Kevin's point is he was done. He didn't want to 175 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: fix the seven and understandable. It's a personal human decision. 176 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong on either side. The 177 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: point becomes, you got to know what you're getting into. 178 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: You've got to know what your level of commitment is. 179 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: If you want to hang on to it, fix it. 180 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: If you don't want to fix it, don't fix it, 181 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: but understand the costs and understand where that can lead. 182 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: There's no guarantee that rix plowtruck won't need something else 183 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: major before the end of the year, and there's no 184 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: guarantee it will. But he didn't spend sixty five thousand 185 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: dollars just how he looks at it, Kevin, I don't 186 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: know he's gonna go out and test the market and 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: see what vehicles cost today. And I think he's going 188 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: to be shocked, and he'll probably be back because there's 189 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: no cheap used vehicles out there, and there's hardly any 190 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: good new ones. That's a whole nother conversation for another day. 191 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 192 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: Ron and nay of the car Doctor. I'll be back 193 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away for the best in 194 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: car advice. 195 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: Give Ron a call eight five five five six zero 196 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 5: nine nine zero zero. 197 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Let's go over to Dicky in 198 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: Maine with a fourteen rim and some four wheel drive problems. 199 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: Got to get that working for a winter. So welcome 200 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: to the car Doctor, Dicky. How can I help? 201 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, on, I have a twenty fourteen dogs Hoomy 202 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: Ram shot box and it keeps showing a code on 203 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: the desk. There a service four wheel drive system. Okay, 204 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: I've always taken care of my own stuff, but everything's 205 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: sealed now, there's no way to add fluid or anything 206 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: like that, and I just I haven't coded it at all, 207 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: so I don't know what it is. 208 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: Right. So you know, obviously we'd like to know what 209 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: the fault code is. There's been a lot of problems 210 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: with that and understand just so we're clear. And I 211 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: think you know this, but I just want to say 212 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: when they say service four wheel drive system, they're not 213 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: saying it's time to change a fluid. They're telling you 214 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: the system's not working. It won't go into four wheel drive, 215 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: will it. Have you tried? 216 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it works fine, four wheel driven, anything works fine 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 3: on it. 218 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: Okay, then I'm going to tell you you got Then 219 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you need to pull a code 220 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: and see what's in there, because it sounds like you're 221 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: getting a warning message because it's seeing some sort of 222 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: a fault, whether it be an intermittent defect or a 223 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: hard defect, that it's not going to work properly come 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: this winter. Now. A couple of things to note that 225 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: works with the front axle actuators. The front differential axle 226 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: actuators on those have a real high failure rate, you know, 227 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: so they're known to go. The other issue is Chrysler 228 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: and their infinite wisdom decided to put all the wiring 229 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: and the grounds in and around that actuator. So you know, 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: guess what, you're out there plowing snow, You're out there 231 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: driving on a cold, wet's main road and all that chemicals. 232 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: Over time, all that chemical gets on the wiring. Check 233 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: for a broken ground wire up by the driver's side 234 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: motor mount that ground. If that ground, if you trace 235 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: it back, I believe goes to the FAD the front 236 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: actual front differential ACXLE actuator, and then you can just 237 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: get into power and ground at the connector. I've also 238 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: seen the connector get corrosion on it and it creates 239 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: enough internal resistance in the connector that the actuator can't 240 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: be read properly or actuated properly. And that's an issue. 241 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: But something in the front front driver's side, yes, sir. 242 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But the fact, the fact that it's working 243 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: now tells me that, you know, we've got to go 244 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: look at this and not just hope and wait for 245 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: a winter to come up and then it'll be working properly. 246 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: Let's go see what the code is. Yeah, something, something's 247 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: going to go on there on the border right. Yeah, 248 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: and understand, not an ob D two scan. You've got 249 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: to go in with something that's your make, model specific, 250 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: because we want to look at transfer case before wheel drive. 251 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: And I'm willing to bet it's going to be a 252 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: seas in Charlie one forty seven b as in Baker 253 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: one forty seven b as in Baker. That was a 254 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: common fault for the front actual actuator. And I bet 255 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: you that's that'll take you on the path, all right. 256 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: Kittle, Okay, okay, thank you for much. 257 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. Good luck to you if you 258 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: need more of them here, Yes, sir, not a problem. 259 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Let's get over to uh let's go 260 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: talk to is that Marie and Maine and see what's 261 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: going on here on nine Camra. Yes, ma'am, well, love 262 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: your show. Thank you very much. 263 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 6: I get a twenty oh nine CAMERI essay. I bought 264 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 6: it though, and it's never been in an accident. I 265 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 6: bought it at a Toyota dealership. I've had all my 266 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 6: maintenance down at Toyota Service. It has seventy one thousand miles. 267 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 6: So about three weeks ago, the the engine light went on. 268 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 6: It was it was steady, so they said replace the 269 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 6: gas cap. So I did. Well, it came back on again, 270 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 6: so they ran the diagnostics and they didn't see a problem, 271 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 6: so they reset the light again. Well, I'm going in 272 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 6: next week and I really don't know if you had 273 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 6: any words of wisdom or I love this car, but 274 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 6: I don't want to spend like tons of bucks. So well, 275 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 6: wasn't any ideas? 276 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's back up a second. Who said put a 277 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: gas cap on it? Toyota? 278 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 5: Yeah? 279 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So what do you know what the numbered fault 280 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: code was? Was it a P zero four to four 281 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: to one? I don't no, okay, so let's let's let's 282 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: have a general conversation you and I. All right, if 283 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you took a gallon gas can and filled it up 284 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: with gas and sealed it and put it outside on 285 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: your driveway on a hot sunny day, what do you 286 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: think will happen? 287 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 6: Oh, it might blow up or something. 288 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Right, or it's going to expand and bulge and leak. Right, yes, yeah, 289 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: so okay, let's take the gas cap off and let's 290 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: so it doesn't build up any pressure. But now what 291 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: are we doing? We're venting fumes to the atmosphere? 292 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: Right? 293 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Yes, cars are the same way, all right. Your car 294 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: has a gas tank, right, yeah, so if they sealed 295 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: that gas tank, what do you think what happened to 296 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: your car? Right? So you know it sounds like this 297 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: is going to be what we call big big word here, 298 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: a college word, evaporative emissions system. The fault, but there 299 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: are there are There are multiple ways and multiple tests 300 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: in which we test the system's fuel tank for integrity. 301 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Think think guests can in the driveway, right, Most guests 302 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: cans have they have a poor spout, They have events spout, 303 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: right they You know, we could put a sensor in 304 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: there to measure internal pressure. There's a bunch of ways 305 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: we could test that container to see if it has 306 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: integrity or if it's leaking fumes. Correct. Yeah, so you know, 307 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: maybe one sensor fault is a P zero four four one, 308 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: then the other ones at P zero four four two, 309 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: and then the other ones at P zero four four 310 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: three and so on. So until we know what exact 311 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: fault code this is, we're just having a great conversation 312 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: you and I, but we're not getting anywhere. 313 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 6: So okay, No, they didn't give me the codes or 314 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 6: anything when they were in the diagnostics, right. 315 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know, just so we clarify, a diagnostic is 316 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: more than just a code scan. It's okay, we've got 317 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: a P zero four four one. Then somebody either sticks 318 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: their head in a book and understands how that four 319 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: to four one occurs. Okay, right, Just like when you 320 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: go to the er and they take your heart rate, Jam, Marie, 321 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: your blood your heart rate's a little high today. Let's 322 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: go look and see you. Let's go run. So what 323 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: do they do? They run some tests, right, they might. 324 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 6: Myself. 325 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know where I'm coming. Right, They're heart rate, 326 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna look at blood pressure, they're gonna look at pulse, 327 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna look at you know, they're gonna ask you 328 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: all kinds of questions. That's a diagnostic. What they've done 329 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: at this point is they've done a code scan. Not enough, 330 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: they took your heart rate and blood pressure. They got 331 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: to go to the next step. All right, Okay, that 332 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: should be fairly easy to diagnose and repair. Of course, 333 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: the one overall factor is you're in Maine. 334 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 6: Right, Yes I am. 335 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: And they get that funny stuff called snow. Yes, and 336 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: to combat that snow they put what on the road 337 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: chemical and that chemical, that chemical causes a lot of 338 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: things to rot and rust out on the cars. Okay, 339 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: So when we're looking to see if that gas can 340 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: in your driveway has integrity, it's intact in an automobile. 341 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: We have to look at the vent lines, we have 342 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: to look at the purge, we have to look at 343 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: all the controls and self regulation. It can be done. 344 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: So I think reasonably you should look at I think 345 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: you're going to spend two hours of diagnostic time. Two 346 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: hours of diagnostic time. A shop should be able to 347 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: go through if that is a hardcore present problem and 348 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: diagnose it all right, if they want, if they want to, 349 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: and that's that's one of the keys marine, So go in, 350 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: go in, talk to them about running a diagnostic talk 351 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: to them. You know, hey, you're willing to spend one 352 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: to two hours of time, can they give you some answers? 353 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: And if they can't, unfortunately, then you're in the wrong place. 354 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: You got to find the shop that can. But that's 355 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: not an unrepairable problem and not something I think about 356 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: getting rid of the car over because it should be 357 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: able to be fixed. I'm Ronning Andy and the guard doctor. 358 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm back right after this. Don't go away. Ron's in 359 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: his own the AutoZone studio and he'll be back right 360 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: after this. 361 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: Every hardway let me slip away home. 362 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Every hardway you've seen that it is welcome back to 363 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: the AutoZone studio. Here's Ron. Shoot, hey there, so I'm back. 364 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: Let's see I want to read this from Randall. Randall 365 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: wrote a very nice email. Randall from Newington, New Hampshire. Ron, 366 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I love the show I'm writing about. I have a 367 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and Honda Accord Ex with a four cylinder 368 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: in the California missions package. It has a low exhaust or. 369 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: It had allowed exhaust. I'm sorry, so I replaced the 370 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: exhaust from the manifold to the tip a few months ago. 371 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: I used a new NTK good choice heated oxygen sensor 372 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: in the new catalytic converter. As soon as I started 373 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: the car, the malfunction indicator or check engine lamp lit up. 374 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: I knew immediately what was wrong. The sensor isn't right. 375 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: It was the only component with an electrical connector. I 376 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: tried a dentso heated oxygen sensor and it had the 377 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: same issue. I went to my service manual looked up 378 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: procedure for testing components. I tested both of the new 379 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: O two's. They both have a resistance value of three 380 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: and a half homes. The old one, still in the 381 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: old cat had a seven and a half home value. 382 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Speck in the manuals between two and twenty. They should 383 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: work fine, but I don't. I bought a walk a 384 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: row two sensor for AutoZone. It has a resistance value 385 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: of ten homes and the light is off. The rest 386 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: of the wiring seems fine. Voltage is in continuity within spec. 387 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: I tested those with my vaultometer. It works now, so 388 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: it's done as you say out the door. A couple 389 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: of comments here Randall and for everyone else. Service manuals 390 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: are great, but there's nothing like having current, always changing, 391 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: always updated, fresh information from an online source. All data 392 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: all right. For example, because this is a two thousand, 393 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: this vehicle's twenty three going on twenty four years old. 394 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: Service information has changed a lot since that book was published, 395 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: and it'll probably have changed by the time I get 396 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: done doing the show today. That updated information is always 397 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: handy to have, you know, I would question because I 398 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: have run into this on two thousand. I think I 399 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: talked about this not too long ago two thousand and 400 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and one accords where I couldn't find proper 401 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: two application by design, and I ended up talking to 402 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: the boys over at Opus IVS and we had them 403 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: reference it and we found the right part number that way, 404 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: So I don't think this is an issue that NTK 405 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: or Denso had problems. NTK, in my opinion, is an 406 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: OE sensor. It is an oas sensor and one of 407 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: the better sensors out there. I don't think companies that 408 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: large make their living doing things wrong. I think this 409 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: was a catalog application or a parts look up error message, 410 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: So just be aware of that. One of the things you 411 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: could do, Randall is you could go out and sign up, 412 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: go to shop squad online dot com. Shop squad online 413 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: dot com, sign up as a repair shop and you'll 414 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: have access to all the information in shop squad and 415 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: you can actually look up parts directly on the NNGK 416 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: NTK website, and they present a bunch of information as 417 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, if there is an application error, 418 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: if there's reported cases of problems looking up two censors, 419 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: for example on this vehicle, it'll be in shop squad 420 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: online because they record those kinds of things and display 421 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: that information. There's an awful lot of information out there 422 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: at shop squad online dot com. And I haven't gotten 423 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: to the bottom of that well, nor do I expect to. 424 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: But in any event, on with your email ron, not 425 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: there any insights You've had this issue with a car 426 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: head two before? Well, there you go. There's some of 427 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: it that getting the right part sometimes is difficult. I'm 428 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: wondering if the ECO is just tired and once the 429 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: higher resistance of the orre the wiring is getting old 430 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: and there's too much sensitivity associated with it, if the 431 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: connectors are so all higher resistance is needed to maintain 432 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: the current. Now, well, I think it's a parts application error. 433 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: I've had this issue before and purchasing a correct a 434 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: different part number from an NTK and that vehicle would work, right. 435 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: I think this is a poor application. Look up. I'm 436 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: Honda didn't do things exactly right back twenty eighty three 437 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: going on twenty four years ago, so you know, one mistake, 438 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: things get lost and nobody's going to remember how it 439 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: was corrected, you know, if you wanted to take the time. 440 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: This is one of those things when you get into 441 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: applications or cataloging that if we were to go back 442 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: far enough and look far enough, we might find a 443 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: technical service bulletin from Honda that says, hey, this part 444 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: number is supposed to be this, but instead it found 445 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: out that it's supposed to be that, you know, when 446 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: you think about it, it's kind of amazing how the 447 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: how the manufacturers keep their part numbers all lined up 448 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: and in order that they're right as many times as 449 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: they are. I'm amazed at more times at how how 450 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: how many times we get parts right versus that, you know, 451 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: three percent of the time when we get parts wrong. 452 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't take that to heart. I'm not sure 453 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: what the computer checks with heated circuit or it's adaptions programming. 454 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: I did check the codes of my old code reader. 455 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: It was a DTCP zero one forty one secondary heated 456 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: two sensor one heater circuit malfunction. I'd be lost without 457 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: my manuals or imagination. Imagine what you could do randal 458 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: with online data again, you know, like an old data. 459 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: So just something to think about it. I also did 460 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: the ten minute memory reset disconnect the battery alone with 461 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: the code reader. I really have an issue with this 462 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: car in terms of computers. I've replaced all the metal 463 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: fuel and brake lines, front subframe, fuel tank and struts 464 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: and springs about and about four cats in exhausts. The 465 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: cats only need to be replaced because the flans is 466 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: brought out. They seem to last about seven to nine years. 467 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: He then goes on to save repair as an art form. 468 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: I love how creative repairing things is just figuring out 469 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: the puzzles, you know, Randall, I appreciate somebody that's out 470 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: there trying to do this on a on a part 471 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: time basis, and you know, you seem to be doing 472 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: it well. You seem to have a clear thought process. 473 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: You know. Oxygen sensors are oxygen sensors. They're not tough 474 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: to to test. We've and we can only test them. 475 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't think a repair shop contest an oxygen sensor 476 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think we can get into the 477 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: eighty five ninety percent tile. You know, I think it's difficult. 478 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: I've seen a few cars, not necessarily just Hondas, but 479 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: vehicles where the oxygen sensor is biased. It doesn't start 480 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: its reference voltage at zero, for example, It'll start its 481 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: reference voltage at a negative two tenths of a vault, 482 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: and its range will only go as high as positive 483 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: eight tenths of a vault. Because it's a one range 484 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: vault sensor that biased two, which skews more to the 485 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: low side, which is a lean condition. Constantly causing the 486 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: vehicle to add fuel is a rich condition. Is the 487 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: tough one to find. But I've seen that, you know, 488 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: but the majority of O two sensors, we can do 489 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of things. Vehicle running, shoot it with a 490 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: little propane. Does it go as we used to say, 491 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: pig rich? Will it hit point eight point nine? And 492 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to see point nine because I've seen point 493 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: z on a bias OH two and just testing one 494 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: side of it with propane doesn't do any good. I 495 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: will also pull a vacuum hose off a large vacuum 496 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: hose and watch my two readings. How low does it go? 497 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: Does it go below zero? The rule is an O 498 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: two sensor that goes below zero technically isn't right and 499 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: should be replaced because it is biased in the wrong direction. 500 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: All right. Years ago, we actually used to run a 501 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: test GM single wire H two's where we would grab 502 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: the oxygen sensor wire, we disconnect it, watch on a 503 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: scan tool and we'd wet our fingers, we'd touch the 504 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: end of the connector. We'd wet our fingers and touch 505 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: the positive battery post and watch the two voltage change. 506 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: On a scan tool because our body acted as a 507 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: giant resistor. It's kind of a fun thing to do, 508 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: sort of like look at this, and then we would 509 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: also go the other way and wet our fingers and 510 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: go to the negative side of the battery. We go 511 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: negative positive negative positive. We'd become the two sensor command, 512 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: if you will. We'd see if we could drive the 513 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: system rich or Lean and early days, it taught us, 514 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, it taught us how the system works. It 515 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: also gave us the opportunity to, you know, test other 516 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: things by virtue of substitution. We were the O two, 517 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: so you know, that's one of the things we do 518 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: as well as far as heater circuit testing. What they're 519 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: doing is they're looking at voltage drop. A computer doesn't 520 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: measure current, it measures voltage drop. It's looking to see 521 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: it's doing Ohm's law in its head, so to speak, 522 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: that if this much voltage is flowing, and it knows 523 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: the resistance of the circuit, then it's calculating out what 524 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: the current must be. Does that current flow meet the 525 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: spec and if it does, all is good. If it doesn't, 526 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: then it sees a fault. That's why the vehicles that 527 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: had a or the two sensors that had a different 528 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: resistance value turn the light back on for a heater 529 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: circuit fault. Because as resistance changes in Ohm's law, so 530 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: does the value of current flowing based upon the base voltage. 531 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: So it just made all that much of a difference 532 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: as far as testing capability. But that's how they do it, alright, Ketto. 533 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate your email, and I'm sure you'll get this. 534 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: You say that you're you know you're working and you're 535 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: doing your service at a home improvement and you'll get 536 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: to this on a Wednesday evening after ten thirty, So 537 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: God blessed, keep going and if you have any questions, 538 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: you know where to find me. Eight five five five 539 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Run a name of 540 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: the card doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, 541 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: run named the card doctor here at eight five five 542 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Keep in mind 543 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: I haven't said it yet today, but we are trying 544 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: to do calls on Wednesday night. So you shoot us 545 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: an email eight five five five six zero nine nine 546 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: zero zero, leave a voicemail. Shoot us an email ron 547 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: at cardoctorshow dot com. Tell us who you are a 548 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: name number, how to get a hold of you, and 549 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: we're trying to do tapings on Wednesday nights seven o'clock 550 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Eastern time for airing on future shows. So eight five 551 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero has multipurpose. 552 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: You can call now or you can get in a 553 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: queue and we'll talk to you midweek. Let's go over 554 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: and talk to Speaking of talking, let's go talk to 555 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: Peter in Philly. Oh one jeep Cherokee. Peter, welcome to 556 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, how can I help? 557 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Ron, thank you very much for taking my call. 558 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 559 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 5: Well, here's the deal. I got a two thousand and 560 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 5: one Cherokee Sport six cylinder, a four point zero engine, 561 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: and problem seems to be in the heating system. I 562 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: don't have any hot ear flow to the floor. I 563 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 5: took it to my mechanic and he says there's a 564 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 5: motor under the dash that has to be replaced. However, 565 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 5: I only have three controls on the dash. The first 566 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 5: one I have a fan speed selector switch that works fine, 567 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 5: and the next one is the airflow of action switch, 568 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 5: which does not work. I do get hot air in 569 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 5: the defrost mode, but not for the heat for the floor, 570 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 5: and the temperature switch works. 571 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, So let me ask you this. The 572 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: heat that's coming out of the defroster right if you 573 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: if you set it on mid mid fan speed, is 574 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: that hot enough that it's uncomfortable to keep your hand there? 575 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: Uh no, okay, so it's it's really only lukewarm. 576 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: Well, no, it's I get plenty of heat up to 577 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 5: the defrost because I have to turn it off it 578 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 5: gets so warm. 579 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so it does work. Oh, it's just that it's 580 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: not putting heat out on the floor. 581 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: Right, So I guess the the I don't know what. See. 582 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 5: I used to have a seventy nine deep turkey years ago, 583 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 5: and I had a there was some type of a 584 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 5: vacuum tank and a hose they do controlling the air. 585 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 5: They pop it to the bottom. 586 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: They did away with all that. Peter, let me let me, Peter, 587 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: let me ask that's your question. Okay, how many how 588 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: many doors do you have on your house or apartment? 589 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: You got also you got a front door, you got 590 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: a bedroom door, you got a kitchen door. 591 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: Right, Well, let me see there's a cellar door two upstairs. 592 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: I guess the total of let me see three a 593 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 5: cellar door, front door, and back door. 594 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so on your on your jeep, you've got at 595 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: the frost door, you've got you've got a temp door, 596 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: and you've got a bottom or mid door that either 597 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: goes to the center of the dash or out on 598 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: the floor. Right, So the little electric motor that runs 599 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the to the floor or middle of the dash, right, 600 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: that motor is not working from the sounds of it. 601 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: Okay, so he's telling the truth then right now. 602 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: But here's and here's the key. All right, I'd spend 603 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: ten bucks and go down to my local autoparts store 604 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: autozonal have him if you have one near you, and 605 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: grab a thermometer right and stick it in the temp 606 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: stick it in the ducks. Do you have enough heat? 607 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: Because I just want to make sure you don't have 608 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: two problems, because it's not uncommon for the older jeeps 609 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: to have restricted heater cores that won't affect where the 610 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: heat comes out. But I just want to make sure 611 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: that if he does the blend or that the rest 612 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: of it is going to work properly too. So the 613 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, for a simple test, so the magic number, 614 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: all right, especially this time of year when it's not 615 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: too cold on the east coast. The magic number if 616 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: you put that thermometer in the defroster duck and turn 617 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: the heat on second or third speed, you don't want 618 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: to be on full second or third speed. Mid level, 619 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: you should see approximately one hundred and forty five to 620 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty degrees of temperature. Okay, all right, 621 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: And if you've got that, then you've got enough heat 622 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: being generated by the engine that it'll it'll defrost and 623 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: you know you won't have an issue. The reason you 624 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: need that much heat is because if the engine is 625 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: running at one hundred and ninety five degrees, you're going 626 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: to lose thirty degrees by normal attrition between it and 627 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: the ducks, and by the time it gets to your skin, 628 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: if it's coming out the duck at one hundred and fifty, 629 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna hit your skin. You're lucky if it hits 630 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: it at one hundred and twenty, all right. So that's 631 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: why it has to run so hot, So don't be 632 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: fool That's why I say a couple of things. If 633 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: you put your hand by the heater and it's uncomfortable, 634 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: they're like you feel like you're getting burned. That's a 635 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: sign you've got good heat. Grab the upper radiator hose. 636 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Is the engine warm regardless of what the gauge says, 637 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: and then go to the heater core. Feel both heater hoses. 638 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: One should be hot to the touch, the other one 639 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: should be fifteen to twenty degrees cooler but still uncomfortable, 640 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: but not as hot. If that's the case, then chances 641 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: are it's just a blend door issue. Your basement door's 642 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: actuator is broken. But if it's not the case, you 643 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: could have a bad blend door actuator and a restricted 644 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: heater core and they're both going to need to be replaced. 645 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: So just you know, in terms of longevity. And by 646 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: the way, that's a four liter jeep, that thing will 647 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: probably run forever, so yes, it's worth fixing, especially in 648 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: this day and age. Good luck to you, Peter. I'm 649 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: Ron an Andy and the car Doctor. I'll be back 650 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, Hey, thanks for sticking with 651 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: me this weekend and being here with me this hour. 652 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: This comes to us from Brian and d Luth, Minnesota. 653 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 5: Hey. 654 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Ron, we've spoken a couple of times in the past 655 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: few years. I'm contacting you now about a twenty thirteen 656 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: four one fifty V eight my friend has. She said, 657 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: the check engine light will light up, Spidama, I'll go 658 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: to zero, engine will hesitate and run rough, she said, 659 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: shutting off and restarting the engine. I'll get her running 660 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: again until it happens again. She did have it scanned 661 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: at apart store. It as a P zero seven twenty. 662 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: I looked that up, but I was wondering if you 663 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: have any experience with this and what it might be. 664 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: And also I looked at it Sidica because more often 665 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: by one thing or another. I'm trying to encourage her 666 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: to take it to a dealer or a shop, but 667 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: she's hesitant. She doesn't think it can be repaired. I 668 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: thought i'd bounce this off of you for your opinion. 669 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Brian from Duluth. Yeah, Brian, Listen tell 670 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: her to take a look at Technical Servis bulletin sixteen 671 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: disc triple zero eight. It talks about specific problems with 672 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: that transmission that you make model body vehicle. It actually 673 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: also affects twenty eleven through fourteen Mustangs and some of 674 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: the expeditions and navigators. They have a problem with the 675 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: lead frame or lead frame inside the transmission assembly. They're 676 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: talking about replacing it. They have extended Ford Motor Company 677 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: has extended the warrant TEA on some of those. I 678 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: don't know where we are on mileage with this vehicle, 679 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: so it may or may not be in er out. 680 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: But it's a sort of common problem that affected that 681 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: generation of vehicles, so it shouldn't be that difficult to repair. 682 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: But from your symptoms, your description about the check engine light, 683 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: this sphenometer and restarting it, that is textbook exactly what 684 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: the TSB talks about and references in saying how the 685 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: conditions occur. So I think that puts you on the 686 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: right track. But by all means she should get it 687 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: in and get it diagnosed because it's only going to 688 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: get worse and become more unreliable. I appreciate the email, Brian, 689 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being there, and I appreciate the ability 690 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: to be here for all of you. I'm on an 691 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: ady in the card doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 692 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: See you 693 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 4: Sh