Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: All right, here, we are here, we are ready on
Speaker 3: the pilot.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad we finally get to talk about an episode.
Speaker 4: SOA's trying so hard not to on our intro podcast
Speaker 4: and I was doing a very bad job.
Speaker 1: So now I actually get to tell you.
Speaker 3: About episode one.
Speaker 5: Courtney has stories.
Speaker 2: We all have opinions because we all just watched it
Speaker 2: air date.
Speaker 6: We have some thoughts.
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety two. We definitely have thoughts. You want to
Speaker 2: read the synopsis, Laura.
Speaker 6: Sure, Episode one of Melroe's plays the pilot synopsis. Handsome
Speaker 6: bachelor Billy Campbell moves in with Allison played by Courtney
Speaker 6: Thorn Smith after her roommate leaves her in a lurch.
Speaker 6: Doctor Michael Mancini's marriage to Jane could flatline because of
Speaker 6: his hectic hospital schedule, and meanwhile, Jake is starting to
Speaker 6: become a flake when he sees young Kelly Taylor as
Speaker 6: nothing more than puppy love. That My Friends was the pilot,
Speaker 6: and so Courtney Thorne Smith was the resident expert because
Speaker 6: she was there where Daphne and I. Our characters hadn't
Speaker 6: quite appeared yet, so we're gonna have so many questions
Speaker 6: for you.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy, lots of thoughts. I noticed that, back
Speaker 4: to the synopsis is like, did no one notice that
Speaker 4: Jake was dating a high school girl?
Speaker 3: We have notes about that, creepy, lots of.
Speaker 6: Notes about it. Yeah, no, we definitely noticed. It is weird,
Speaker 6: but like the synopsis doesn't bad and I it calls
Speaker 6: it poppylave, but I call it creepy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was thinking, and I'm like, no, they're
Speaker 4: not gonna get they're kissing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're kissing.
Speaker 6: It's just okay, wait, but we do need to start
Speaker 6: at the beginning. Back, so let's let's let's let's back up.
Speaker 1: I'd like to go in order of the credits.
Speaker 4: When Grahat opens the fridge and the light is on
Speaker 4: his chest, there's a place.
Speaker 6: To john Ello put that in the opening credits.
Speaker 2: Fore like the whole season was that that was like
Speaker 2: him opening the fridge ye in the silhouette.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I don't know if you guys noticed. I
Speaker 4: know it's supposed to start at the beginning. Laura's gonna
Speaker 4: keep me on point, but later In the episode, Andrew opens.
Speaker 1: The fridge without his shirt on. So this is the theme.
Speaker 6: Well, we do have I think a shirtless count for
Speaker 6: the episode, right, did you guys? Did the guys in
Speaker 6: the right It would have been it would have been
Speaker 6: easier to count shirts on than shirts off.
Speaker 4: Fluffy rope and andrews I love.
Speaker 6: Okay, So wait a minute, let's start with like the cast,
Speaker 6: like the cast of the pilot, the series regulars, the
Speaker 6: cast of melrose Place. Josie Pizzette played Jane Mancini. She
Speaker 6: was married to Michael Mancini played by Thomas Calabro. Amy
Speaker 6: lo Caine played a character named Sandy Haring. Harley Harling okay,
Speaker 6: I'm talking. Welass played Matt Fielding. Grant Show played Jake Hansen,
Speaker 6: Andrew Shoe played Billy Campbell, Courtney down Smith who was
Speaker 6: in our presence, Alison Parker and Vanessa A.
Speaker 5: Williams played Ronda Blair.
Speaker 6: And the show was created by Darn Starr. Special appearances
Speaker 6: by Jenny Garth playing Kelly Tiller. And these are all
Speaker 6: appearances from the nine O, two and o cast members
Speaker 6: who were like the younger version and the spinoff show
Speaker 6: that we were sort of crossing over using Grant Show's
Speaker 6: character Jake was crossing over from the nine O two
Speaker 6: and oh cast, Jenny Garth playing Kelly Teller, Tory Spelling
Speaker 6: playing Donna Martin, Brian Austin Green whose voice I don't
Speaker 6: think it changed yet, even playing David's Silver Irons Eering
Speaker 6: as Steve Sanders.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and guest stars.
Speaker 2: Of course, we have the Sherman Howard played your creepy
Speaker 2: boss Hal Barber and Victor Love played Daniel.
Speaker 6: This episode was directed by Howie Deutsche yeahe Deutsche Big
Speaker 6: feature director.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was paying some kind of wonderful. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that until I saw the credits on the screen when.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thomson such a nice fan.
Speaker 4: That was really fun, so cool. Yeah, that was really fun.
Speaker 4: I was watching the plot. I was like, because it
Speaker 4: started off, I was like, who's Natalie, Like totally forgot
Speaker 4: that the roommate, you know, in the beginning, the roommate
Speaker 4: sneaks away. I don't remember any of that. I was like,
Speaker 4: who's Natalie That. That's when I noticed my legs. I'm
Speaker 4: going from door to door to door, knocking on doors
Speaker 4: in like a shirt.
Speaker 6: Your legs were adorable.
Speaker 4: Self conscious and I was looking at this. You showed
Speaker 4: never worn pants. Your legs were so cute.
Speaker 1: I wish i'd.
Speaker 3: Known you were adorable.
Speaker 5: You were.
Speaker 6: I wish i'd know super adorable, like classic Angeneu. You
Speaker 6: were just you were the girl it opened on you and.
Speaker 7: With your perfect blonde hair and those blue eyes.
Speaker 4: Well it wasn't perfect blonde hair because the other thing
Speaker 4: I remembered is I had gone brunette to try to
Speaker 4: get more serious roles because I was getting all I
Speaker 4: had gone brunette, and then, of course my first big job,
Speaker 4: they want me to go back to blonde.
Speaker 1: So they spent eight.
Speaker 4: Hours in a hair chair, and I have sort of
Speaker 4: like strawberry blonde Tammy here. You probably didn't notice it
Speaker 4: because you're picturing my blunt hair. The other thing I
Speaker 4: noticed I have the exact same haircut.
Speaker 3: Now, man, if it works, apparently.
Speaker 1: I have not let that go. It's exactly.
Speaker 4: I style it differently, thank god, but it's the exact
Speaker 4: same haircut.
Speaker 2: I always want to comment on the we're talking about
Speaker 2: the nineties and the culture. When I saw the shot
Speaker 2: of those boots leaving Yes, I was like, I know
Speaker 2: that star on Melrose where everyone got cowboy boots, but
Speaker 2: like fancy ones with.
Speaker 7: Colors, and like the short ones and the long way everyone.
Speaker 4: Were I still jeans, is saying yeah, and remember like
Speaker 4: the shots in between scenes in the pilot that they
Speaker 4: were the lightwashed jeans that everybody's wearing. Again, it looked
Speaker 4: it could have been shot right now.
Speaker 6: But when you said, like, I think your first line
Speaker 6: is Nat because you're calling her name and you're trying
Speaker 6: to find out where your roommate is and your first
Speaker 6: line is nat. I heard it night and I was
Speaker 6: watching with my husband, who's there, but he I was like,
Speaker 6: did she just say Matt? Did she call is your
Speaker 6: character's name the first word out of you know, out
Speaker 6: of Courtney's mouth in the show, And he's like, no,
Speaker 6: nat So, And that was like, who's nat?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 6: Then we find out that Natalie was your roommate, was
Speaker 6: Allison's roommate, right, and she's leaving. Allison's waking up, So
Speaker 6: I'm about to start the episode recap.
Speaker 4: Right, and apparently room close to the bone that the
Speaker 4: second my roommate leaves, I'm about to be evicted, Like
Speaker 4: how close to the boat, Like there was no cushion
Speaker 4: at all if I don't find a roommate today, like
Speaker 4: I'm on the street.
Speaker 1: That was. I can't believe I don't remember that. You
Speaker 1: don't remember that at all.
Speaker 6: It was it was high drama, and that very drama.
Speaker 6: And you were so you go to you go door
Speaker 6: to door to say have you have you seen Nat?
Speaker 6: Have you seen that?
Speaker 4: So that's how, here's the way I could have solved
Speaker 4: that problem. I could have put on pants.
Speaker 6: Before I went, Well, if the guys aren't going to
Speaker 6: wear shirts, you do not wear pants in this show.
Speaker 6: So but you were maybe fourteen years old. You were
Speaker 6: so cute. I was twenty four, So I mean you
Speaker 6: were tiny, little young cute, Oh my gosh, adorable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody was so young, weren't we.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was super young.
Speaker 6: Like I wrote down, I think Courtney is fourteen years old.
Speaker 2: But right off the bat, I like how they Darren
Speaker 2: who wrote it, really captured the camaraderie in an apartment
Speaker 2: building like that, because that didn't exist in every apartment building.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't think and that you know, well, okay,
Speaker 2: so here's another thing. I don't know that you knew this,
Speaker 2: but I told you that Darren and I lived in
Speaker 2: an apartment. We were roommates in college. Off we went
Speaker 2: to UCLA, so he had a guy roommate and I
Speaker 2: had a girl roommate. So there was two bedroom.
Speaker 7: I think we shared the freaking bathroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at any rate, there was that kind of
Speaker 2: like everyone barring each other's this and that and the
Speaker 2: other thing. But that's I love that really. That really
Speaker 2: set the tone for this show. And I saw it
Speaker 2: in the pilot, how you're knocking on everyone and you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: my shirt's off, but it's not and anything other than
Speaker 2: I just need to find her.
Speaker 6: Everyone knows everyone's business.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just really like that they all knew each other. We're,
Speaker 2: you know, having coffee. You need your coffee. I just
Speaker 2: love that vibe that sets the show on its course
Speaker 2: of like all being there for each other until we
Speaker 2: start until episode sixteen each.
Speaker 1: Other we start sleeping with each other. And to start
Speaker 1: out with such a good point that was so sweet.
Speaker 6: Well, you're knocking on everyone's doors, and it's a great
Speaker 6: way for the audience to meet all the characters one
Speaker 6: by one whatever and get a sense. And you know,
Speaker 6: there's cute little Doug Savant with his coffee. Yeah he
Speaker 6: had oh so we were starting to get you know,
Speaker 6: of course, when Grant opens the door, he's shirtless because yes, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, might as well put him shirtless and everything
Speaker 6: because I because I mean everything. So yeah, so he's
Speaker 6: he's opening the door shirtless. I think so was my Michael,
Speaker 6: who was you know, answering the door with Jane. I
Speaker 6: think he was also shirtless. And then Doug opens the
Speaker 6: door and like I think maybe a robe opened or
Speaker 6: something is like an indication of shirtless, you know, but
Speaker 6: he's like the nice guy. But and then you know,
Speaker 6: you start of get a sense of who these characters are.
Speaker 6: And right off the bat, why was Michael played by
Speaker 6: Thomas Glauber. Why was he being such a jerk to
Speaker 6: you about like, ah, did you notice that? Like he
Speaker 6: already decided I'm going to be a jerk and go, yeah,
Speaker 6: better come.
Speaker 3: Up with the rent?
Speaker 4: What was happening? Like, were we just on the brink?
Speaker 4: Do we pay the last possible day of every month?
Speaker 4: And my son wandered in for a minute while I
Speaker 4: was watching the show, and they said, you know, four
Speaker 4: hundred dollars, Chat goes four hundred dollars for an apartment
Speaker 4: in LA that's amazing. Yeah, yeah, right, we were sharing
Speaker 4: a two bedroom apartment with a pool.
Speaker 1: Apparently eight hundred dollars, but amazing.
Speaker 6: We learn about the rent, the amount of the rent
Speaker 6: while you're driving down the road writing on your standing.
Speaker 6: I mean, if that, if that isn't a sign of
Speaker 6: the time, it's a precursor to texting all driving. But
Speaker 6: I'm actually gonna do it with the pen and paper.
Speaker 5: You caught that, I caught that.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's really it's absurd.
Speaker 2: I mean even though we used to, like I used
Speaker 2: to drive and change outfits from audition to audition.
Speaker 6: When I was you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You'd have something in.
Speaker 2: The back or your yoga mat or whatever, but I
Speaker 2: would change on the four or five driving from like
Speaker 2: you know, the hussy to the nun or whatever.
Speaker 7: Literally, well, traffic was so bad you were barely moving.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like a sign of the time, I'm not
Speaker 6: just texting. Yeah, I'm writing with a pen and paper
Speaker 6: and maybe a propos. Right after that, you accidentally hit
Speaker 6: your driver's say door into into my box, into your boss.
Speaker 1: He played my boss.
Speaker 4: Then, but later Edward Edwards played my boss. But you're
Speaker 4: only remember I was like, that's not Edward Edwards, who
Speaker 4: I remember. I remember his name because.
Speaker 1: Obviously it was whatever. I was like, that's not my boss,
Speaker 1: that was my other boss.
Speaker 6: How how Barber was the character's name? Yes, was super smarmy.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'd totally forgotten that Billy was
Speaker 1: a writer. Did you guys remember that?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: I remember, you knew that. What I did not, and
Speaker 6: we're not there yet, But what I did not remember
Speaker 6: was that he was a Arthur Murray dance instruct The
Speaker 6: character was that is hysterical?
Speaker 1: Is that the cutest thing?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: So do I say my life? I can't say my
Speaker 1: favorite line?
Speaker 6: Yet I think we I think we have to get there.
Speaker 6: So like we follow, We follow Alison as she gets
Speaker 6: to D and D and and all of you must
Speaker 6: have noticed, like the D and D establishing a shot
Speaker 6: the exteriors. Those are Spellings offices on Wolfshire, right, So
Speaker 6: they used I remember it, yes, as the establishing shot
Speaker 6: for D and D the advertising firm, right. So yeah,
Speaker 6: and how you know smarmy how immediately starts flirting with
Speaker 6: cute little receptionist Allison, which is just like ew right
Speaker 6: off the.
Speaker 4: Bat, which Alson doesn't know. I don't under she's like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, sure, I'd love to go to that party
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
Speaker 5: How does she not know?
Speaker 1: Is she not seeing what we're seeing?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you have to go back to that age.
Speaker 5: Let's not forget.
Speaker 2: You have like thirty years of insight and experience and
Speaker 2: wisdom and on it. So go back and you're what
Speaker 2: in your twenties the character, and I don't think that
Speaker 2: she would know.
Speaker 5: And by the way, he wasn't flirting.
Speaker 7: First off, he was being boss but saying little dropping little.
Speaker 5: Things like oh well was it to my wife?
Speaker 2: And these little things that's not flirting. That's like throwing
Speaker 2: it out there and see if you bite, and then
Speaker 2: you didn't. So he just kind of like God even more.
Speaker 4: That's that's a time of that age too. Do you
Speaker 4: remember this as young actor? I'm going off keeper, but
Speaker 4: remember this as young actors. You'd get called into meetings
Speaker 4: what are they called, h general You get called into
Speaker 4: a general meeting and you're sitting there with an executive
Speaker 4: of some sort and all a sudden they'd say, do
Speaker 4: you like sushi? And you're like, I don't think we're
Speaker 4: talking about a project, are we didn't that happen to you.
Speaker 4: That reminded me of this thing with Hallie. She called
Speaker 4: into general meetings all the time. It's not like they
Speaker 4: try anything, but it was like, I'm not here to
Speaker 4: talk about a project. I'm here, you know, well, I
Speaker 4: think you're eating like a first date.
Speaker 7: It's they wouldn't do that because that's two forward.
Speaker 2: But it's this casuality, like casual about things we can
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 5: We cross the personal in the business.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yes, And I think it is a sign of
Speaker 6: the times like that we can look at it now
Speaker 6: and go ow, you know, but it wasn't you know then,
Speaker 6: it was just the way it was, but or the
Speaker 6: expectation was you're just supposed to smile and be nice
Speaker 6: about it. Yeah, like as a young girl, you're just
Speaker 6: and he was in a position of power and whatever,
Speaker 6: so like yeah, but just I mean, right off the bat,
Speaker 6: the character is so from our point of view now,
Speaker 6: he's so obviously smarty, right, and you're you're just like
Speaker 6: the sweet girl going okay, sure, whatever you need and
Speaker 6: like just trying to like secure your job and yeah,
Speaker 6: all that stuff. So it's just such an interesting perspective
Speaker 6: to look at it.
Speaker 4: And times were so different I mean as much as
Speaker 4: we had a weird thing on Maro's place, because it's
Speaker 4: the guys who were topless all the time. I remember
Speaker 4: when our costumer Denise said to me, I got a
Speaker 4: note from on up high shorter, brighter, tighter on Alison.
Speaker 1: Oh, like you couldn't say that today. It was such
Speaker 1: a time, right, And.
Speaker 4: I didn't mind, like the crew guys say hey, sweetie, hay, sweetheart,
Speaker 4: like it didn't bother me. I don't think that would
Speaker 4: happen today, right, Like this.
Speaker 6: Was so much nice, wouldn't happen today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so different, the.
Speaker 5: The shorter skirts.
Speaker 2: And I remember Heather, our dear Heather Lockley, or like
Speaker 2: like she just fed them like a glove. She's like,
Speaker 2: hike it up, you know, Like but she was still
Speaker 2: kind of tomboy, is she even in those little but
Speaker 2: you and Heather and then all of your guest stars,
Speaker 2: bosses or whatever would come in.
Speaker 7: Now it was like almost the blazer ended here and
Speaker 7: the skirt was like a few inches younger.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasn't. Joe didn't get those wardrobe notes.
Speaker 1: No, you were all in black.
Speaker 2: You were and kind of like flowy and esoteric, bohemian
Speaker 2: or whatever, I don't know what it was.
Speaker 5: It kind of switched around, but yeah, I was comfortable
Speaker 5: in pants.
Speaker 1: I still end.
Speaker 6: All right. So we're gonna so from Allison's experience at
Speaker 6: D and D we cut to the exterior of the
Speaker 6: Burger Joint where Kelly, Donna, and David, these are the
Speaker 6: nine O two and zero characters are in the car
Speaker 6: outside the burger joint. Did you guys recognize what was that?
Speaker 6: Was that a Hamburger hamlet with the burger thing on top?
Speaker 6: What was that place? Was it an actual place on Melrose?
Speaker 6: I was trying to figure it out. I was like
Speaker 6: shaped like a hand.
Speaker 4: I was noticing that we all looked the same age,
Speaker 4: like that Ion Zering looked the same age as Grant.
Speaker 1: That's what I was noticing.
Speaker 4: That he was supposed to be in high school and
Speaker 4: they're having this thing where Amy o'caine's character was hitting
Speaker 4: on him, but it didn't look crazy like they look
Speaker 4: the same age, like you buy how much we buy
Speaker 4: into Like I think Jenny at the time, she obviously
Speaker 4: wasn't a teenager. She came off very young though she
Speaker 4: was the I think she was the youngest one in
Speaker 4: that cast, maybe next to Tory, right, she actually was
Speaker 4: closer to age, but she was of age, which knowing
Speaker 4: that made it a little.
Speaker 1: Less creepy to me. But the fact that they actually
Speaker 1: had them kiss, like now you might have them flirting,
Speaker 1: but he would say no, no, no, little lady, like
Speaker 1: they actually had a romance. Yeah, that was so surprising
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 6: Well, and she was that character was like so in
Speaker 6: pursuit of Jake, who just seemed to that they had
Speaker 6: Jake be like so tormented should he shouldn't he? Like
Speaker 6: I thought this thing was like, dude, she's seventeen.
Speaker 1: Or whatever, Like, ye would not have been tormented, right,
Speaker 1: it would have been like no, thank you?
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. But like this, you know, this
Speaker 6: character was like this was a perfectly normal sort of
Speaker 6: debate that he was having. Is shouldn't he with this girl?
Speaker 6: Our times?
Speaker 5: But guys perspective, it is probably not crazy.
Speaker 7: It's probably not like what's the difference between seven?
Speaker 5: I mean besides.
Speaker 6: Legally, well there's a lot of problem so in other words,
Speaker 6: it's kind of a big difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and that's brought out that Amy Locaine character tells
Speaker 2: him and stuff.
Speaker 4: But you wouldn't you wouldn't have that many high school
Speaker 4: kids going to go after this motorcycle guy to well,
Speaker 4: would you have I'm trying to think when I was
Speaker 4: in high school, I don't know what. No, No, we
Speaker 4: were like like a sophomore to senior. Seemed like a
Speaker 4: crazy age leap to us.
Speaker 6: I don't know it, like somebody living in his own apartments, right,
Speaker 6: like with all that stuff in it like that. That's
Speaker 6: the kind I will say.
Speaker 4: Growing up in the seventies, no parents were home ever,
Speaker 4: so it was like we all had our own houses
Speaker 4: right in the seventies in northern California, Like basically everyone
Speaker 4: had their own house, but their own apartment. We didn't
Speaker 4: know those guys, no, right, Like even in our early twenties,
Speaker 4: everyone had like seven roommates.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So when Kelly goes to look for Jake at
Speaker 6: his apartment, that's when we're introduced to the to Amy
Speaker 6: Lokaine character. She's sunning by the pool, right, and she's
Speaker 6: in that red bathing suit talk for Jake. She talks
Speaker 6: to Kelly and she finds out that Kelly's in high school,
Speaker 6: and so she has a little dialogue with Kelly, and
Speaker 6: that's the far and that's the first time you hear
Speaker 6: amy Ocaine's Southern accent and get to know, Oh, this
Speaker 6: is a girl who's moved to La and she's got
Speaker 6: a very interesting Southern accent, like she wants to do.
Speaker 4: You remember the pool, so it was a sound stage,
Speaker 4: so there was no natural light, and do you remember
Speaker 4: having to be there like in bathing suits in the
Speaker 4: fake light? And that was when my son came in
Speaker 4: and I said, I said, you know this wasn't outside,
Speaker 4: and he goes.
Speaker 1: I can tell you, swear to god, Oh you're kidding me.
Speaker 2: Mom.
Speaker 4: Remember we couldn't had the cameras, couldn't shoot up because
Speaker 4: you'd see the lights.
Speaker 1: And then season two or three, when we got some
Speaker 1: money they had, they created like a false scrim in
Speaker 1: the What was it? Why could we shoot up?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: Was it a fact? I think some reason?
Speaker 5: Maybe just higher up in one direction. Do you remember
Speaker 5: the foliage.
Speaker 6: They could move it right, yeah?
Speaker 4: But why could we suddenly have sky in the background,
Speaker 4: because you remember, we couldn't have no one could be
Speaker 4: talking down to anybody, not emotionally.
Speaker 6: But we did we have a skyscram like just a
Speaker 6: fake maybe.
Speaker 4: I remember when they first got the sky and they
Speaker 4: were so excited. Maybe they had it over the whole thing. No,
Speaker 4: because you need the lights.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I remember I remember having to be quote outside and
Speaker 1: inside and it was so weird.
Speaker 7: It felt like a play.
Speaker 2: Even just watching it, didn't it feel like that was
Speaker 2: a stage like a play in a way. I don't
Speaker 2: know the whole set, just watching it this time, seeing
Speaker 2: where were the.
Speaker 4: Practical sets because my apartment was my apartment, Billy's in
Speaker 4: my apartment was my apartment. But people who were upstairs,
Speaker 4: where did they build your practical around?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: It was just right nearby. I mean, eventually we had
Speaker 6: two sound stages. The whole apartment was right because we
Speaker 6: had like I think four and five or something with
Speaker 6: those the actual numbers that that really you Wow, I
Speaker 6: could be making that up, but they were. They were
Speaker 6: just like setups, like a sound stage of the interiors
Speaker 6: just right nearby.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for the upstairs apartments. But like Allison story was
Speaker 6: really like the primary like the way to get in
Speaker 6: the world of Meloye's place was through the Allison characters.
Speaker 6: Ju Right, So we're following her journey of trying to
Speaker 6: find a new roommate, trying to hold onto her job,
Speaker 6: and then the next scene is Allison is unloading her
Speaker 6: trunk and Billy Campbell played by Andrew Shoe, stops by
Speaker 6: to ask about the apartment. He's ostensibly heard about the
Speaker 6: apartment somehow through this random roommate aide naturally, but he
Speaker 6: stops by and he's immediately like cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I must have been directed to play it super annoyed.
Speaker 4: I'm like, would you be annoyed if Andrew you.
Speaker 3: Wipe you.
Speaker 7: Find something and my apartment?
Speaker 4: Maybe literally in real life I was saying, hey, there,
Speaker 4: but in my character was yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was so annoyed.
Speaker 4: I guess I had to be otherwise, why wouldn't I
Speaker 4: just say yes, please move in right now?
Speaker 6: And and I mean just could not be more adorable.
Speaker 6: And he was scripted like he just had like the
Speaker 6: best scenes day.
Speaker 1: Now I can tell the andrews Shoe audition story.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, okay, good, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, see finally I'm up. Oh go, So that sweet
Speaker 4: Stephen Fanning who was wonderful. It didn't work out. Don't
Speaker 4: know why sometimes that happens. So then in the middle
Speaker 4: of shooting the pilot, they had to recast the billy character.
Speaker 4: So this was like on a Saturday. So we're shooting fourteen,
Speaker 4: sixteen hours a day.
Speaker 1: It's insane.
Speaker 4: Like in the pilot, for whatever reason, I'm in every scene.
Speaker 4: And we said, okay, we have to have these auditions.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have them at Aaron Spelling's house. So do
Speaker 4: you know Aaron Spelling's famous house in like Beverly Wood Bell, Yeah, Homihills.
Speaker 4: So you drive up to this big, fancy house and
Speaker 4: were in his library. So it's a huge library, like
Speaker 4: something out of Hogwarts, right, and you look there were
Speaker 4: all these leatherbound books. And I went close to look
Speaker 4: at the leatherbound books and their scripts. So he has
Speaker 4: leather bound Fantasy Island scripts and love bound scripts. Isn't
Speaker 4: that amazing library? We love boat scripts. Walls and Walls
Speaker 4: did a million show volumes, right, leather bound volumes of
Speaker 4: every single script.
Speaker 1: So they're probably have Malroth's place too. And all these
Speaker 1: guys waiting, and I'm sitting in this room with all
Speaker 1: these executives and I'm just sitting there and he's being
Speaker 1: very would you like some water, sweetheart?
Speaker 6: Were there lots of actors?
Speaker 1: There were all these.
Speaker 4: Actors in the other room, and they came in one
Speaker 4: by one and they were all good. And this one
Speaker 4: guy came in and he was a really good, serious
Speaker 4: actor and he had sort of a Grant vibe like
Speaker 4: he was sort of tough, but like a really good
Speaker 4: experienced actor. And all the guys in the room are going, yeah, yeah, yeah, great.
Speaker 4: You know, Andrew didn't have a lot of experience, so
Speaker 4: it's because of his shoes brother, but just absolutely adorable, right, natural,
Speaker 4: that energy, natural, and he just is like still to
Speaker 4: this day, he's just an adorable, sweet, a brilliant man. Right.
Speaker 4: And he comes in and all of the executives are like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, the first guy, the tough guy, the tough guy,
Speaker 4: the tough guy.
Speaker 1: And Aaron goes, yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 4: I think you guys are right, but I want you
Speaker 4: to there's something about that Andrew shoe guy.
Speaker 1: I just thought there was something.
Speaker 4: But I totally agree with the guys were one hundred
Speaker 4: percent right, But I just want to kind of see
Speaker 4: him again. I'm kind of curious about him. And then
Speaker 4: he were Andrew beck in and I watched like I
Speaker 4: was watching, I watched him turn all of these executives around,
Speaker 4: so they're going, Andrew, shoot, I don't know where You're
Speaker 4: sure Andrews, and Andrewsho, Andrew Shoe.
Speaker 5: I watched it.
Speaker 1: I was like, and I think that.
Speaker 4: I think that day we'll ask Andrew when he comes on.
Speaker 4: I think they called him in and said you have it. Wow,
Speaker 4: Like I think that day, Like in Aaron Spelling's Home
Speaker 4: and library, Andrew got the part.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 6: That's such a I can't wait for him to hear
Speaker 6: him talk about it too.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'd love to here he does it. He tells
Speaker 4: the story adorably, but it was so crazy to watch him,
Speaker 4: watch how he would play these people and turn them on.
Speaker 4: And he was right because the other guy was wonderful.
Speaker 4: I honestly don't know his name, but it would have
Speaker 4: been like he and Brant were so similar, and Grant
Speaker 4: and Andrew were so opposite and it worked so well, right,
Speaker 4: like that a tough guy and then this sweet guy.
Speaker 1: It was just such a perfect perfect match. And he
Speaker 1: could see it. Yeah, he was so good at spotting
Speaker 1: talent right and making that the mix of people.
Speaker 6: That's so great.
Speaker 5: That's great.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So here's cute Andrew Shoe Billy Campbell Alison for
Speaker 6: some reason being a complete bitch, and he asked you
Speaker 6: to see the apartment and Allison says no, and he
Speaker 6: gives you because of his numbers and an idiot WoT
Speaker 6: it up and throw it in thees. You were an idiot,
Speaker 6: not gonna lie. But from there we go to we
Speaker 6: ended up in Shooters Bar, and girl, right, that bar
Speaker 6: was a set.
Speaker 5: Iconic when I love shooting in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come in because were we at the gate and
Speaker 1: he takes my didn't or didn't come in that day.
Speaker 6: The first time you say no, you can't come in,
Speaker 6: you can't see the apartment. He tries to give you
Speaker 6: his number. You're like, yeah, no, you up the number
Speaker 6: and you go inside and you leave and he, you know,
Speaker 6: sort of leaves the apartment complex. So the next scene
Speaker 6: is then cutting to Shooters, which is a it's not
Speaker 6: an actual bar. It was the bar that was built
Speaker 6: for Melrose and it was named for Melrose. We had
Speaker 6: a lot of good like sort of swag with shooter
Speaker 6: stuff on it over the years, Right, didn't you guys
Speaker 6: have like the drink tumbler, Shooters Shooters Bar made like shirts,
Speaker 6: the T shirt we.
Speaker 1: All had the glasses. Remember the tumblers said shooters.
Speaker 6: And Jake is teaching a blonde to play pool. A
Speaker 6: blonde who when I from a distance the.
Speaker 3: Wide shot and I thought that looked like Cony.
Speaker 6: I like, yeah, which changeable one of ours?
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 6: It was a blonde. It was not one of her characters.
Speaker 5: Sandy was coming to tell Jake.
Speaker 7: By the way, there's been a high school hanging around
Speaker 7: the apartment.
Speaker 2: Nice high schooler, Jake haskel Jike, do you do you
Speaker 2: remember me?
Speaker 4: Because when I I seem to remember there was debate
Speaker 4: about her keeping the accent.
Speaker 1: I don't know that she kept it. We'll find out
Speaker 1: in the future, and we will remember them discussing it.
Speaker 6: I have to say that was one of the things
Speaker 6: while watching it with Doug. He said that there was
Speaker 6: ongoing discussion about yes, and I remember that she keep it?
Speaker 1: Should she drop it?
Speaker 6: How is it going? Is it working? It was a
Speaker 6: thing and there were times when I could not understand
Speaker 6: what she was saying due to the accent.
Speaker 2: And about what I loved about it is that it
Speaker 2: remind me that this show is not reality. She was
Speaker 2: this iconic blonde who came from the South, you know,
Speaker 2: it could have been from the Midwest anywhere. She came
Speaker 2: out and she was gonna.
Speaker 5: Be a stuff.
Speaker 2: She was the actress, yeah, classes, and she went to
Speaker 2: acting school and she was a waitress and she was
Speaker 2: just She's an archetype.
Speaker 5: That's what this show is filled with.
Speaker 7: That's why Jake and Billie had to be different.
Speaker 2: They couldn't be the same, like Hero, you know, hercules guy,
Speaker 2: just like you know, we had the crazy redhead, we had,
Speaker 2: you know, the tough burnette Joe comes in. We had
Speaker 2: Ronda played by Vanessa which we didn't go over, but
Speaker 2: those outfits with her aerobics classes. You know, I thought
Speaker 2: it was very archetypal yea character, which I really totally
Speaker 2: liked because they.
Speaker 7: Didn't get really nitty gritty reality.
Speaker 5: You know, this was a school.
Speaker 4: What you're pointing out too, though, is when they brought
Speaker 4: in the different archetypes like you and Heather and you
Speaker 4: that's when it worked. When we were all like we
Speaker 4: said earlier, and we're all just nice kids trying to
Speaker 4: make it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 4: There was no conflict. We have all these nice kids
Speaker 4: knocking on each other's door, right right, Okay, well I
Speaker 4: can have that in my real life, you need to have.
Speaker 6: Somebody needed to start up.
Speaker 4: Somebody needed to stir it up. And it can't just
Speaker 4: be being mean to the really nice boy who says
Speaker 4: hello to you.
Speaker 5: They need to stir it up.
Speaker 2: And then the writers needed to jump on that and
Speaker 2: really stirred up. You would have been canceled, and they
Speaker 2: did so.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so Sandy's warning warning Jake that if you
Speaker 6: you know, if you're gonna pursue this, you're gonna have
Speaker 6: to deal with the consequences of your actions. So then
Speaker 6: back to Allison's apartment where the montage of potential roommates
Speaker 6: at Allison's door who are not a good fit, and
Speaker 6: we see a hysterical.
Speaker 4: Like hilarious which is also dates right, it's also that
Speaker 4: doesn't that doesn't age well.
Speaker 1: You know, you have the guy who says I'm about
Speaker 1: to be a woman and.
Speaker 4: Wow, the things that were okay then that wouldn't be
Speaker 4: okay now that mohawk like wow, we thought those we
Speaker 4: thought the older one funny to be older.
Speaker 6: Like also like another sign of the time that they
Speaker 6: all just get to come knocking on your door to
Speaker 6: I just love it.
Speaker 1: I pull it right over. Yeah, yeah, no, I'll be
Speaker 1: home alone.
Speaker 6: Come on over, come on over, yep. Uh yeah, So
Speaker 6: that was funny and funny. And that's when Michael drops
Speaker 6: off an eviction notice yeah, like all of a sudden, Nope.
Speaker 1: This is the same day or maybe the next day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he does.
Speaker 6: Suggest to write a bad check to cover the rent.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: What I also love is that none of my dear
Speaker 4: friends in the building said, why don't we each loan
Speaker 4: you one hundred bucks to get.
Speaker 1: You through this time? Like ere like, sorry, too bad?
Speaker 5: But what did we have?
Speaker 1: What did they have it? I guess nobody had money.
Speaker 1: I guess that's none of it. We were all very
Speaker 1: close to the edge.
Speaker 4: I guess it was maybe the dichotomy between you know,
Speaker 4: actually I think it was a dichotomy between Moros and
Speaker 4: nine two is they were rich kids and we were.
Speaker 1: Not struggling at the part struggling struggling.
Speaker 4: So that's why we start with the money. Because we
Speaker 4: couldn't scrape together four hundred dollars.
Speaker 5: Yeah right.
Speaker 4: Nobody even tried to help, which, you know, maybe that's
Speaker 4: why I was so cranky because nobody was trying.
Speaker 6: To well, but the doctor or it was in med
Speaker 6: school or was he an actual doctor By that, Michael,
Speaker 6: he was an intern. Okay, he's the one who's been
Speaker 6: he's acting as the landlord for the building and he's
Speaker 6: also the manager. But he's also suggesting that you write
Speaker 6: a bad check. So in the beginning, Michael Mancini was
Speaker 6: already acting shady. He was suggesting to Alison just write
Speaker 6: a bad check. And then later in the episode, it
Speaker 6: turns turns out, you know that whatever, there was a
Speaker 6: bad check or whatever, but he's he's suggesting that that's
Speaker 6: his solution.
Speaker 1: Lord do we ever meet the landlord?
Speaker 4: Apparently the landlord was awful, apparently right, well, I think
Speaker 4: at all, Michael Mancini was trying to steer Alison wrong anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, and also he was a jerk because then he
Speaker 2: exits and he's like, come on, Bubby, let's go, come on, honey,
Speaker 2: let's come back to bed.
Speaker 3: He was come back in here, come back to bed,
Speaker 3: like talent, Jane, what to do you know?
Speaker 5: Like, I'm like, ew, yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So just like foreshadowing, foreshadowing exactly, they knew exactly
Speaker 6: which direction to say the character. So anyway, back to Shooters,
Speaker 6: where Alison sees Sandy at Shooters and asks where she
Speaker 6: can find Billy. So that's where you go back to
Speaker 6: the Shooters and find him playing pool, right, Yes, and
Speaker 6: now you're ready to ask him to be your roommate. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and you guys had that cute little like dance, Well
Speaker 6: I already have one. No, I don't, and it's just
Speaker 6: like your chemistry and you're like, you know, meet cute
Speaker 6: relationship already was like, oh come on, this is done
Speaker 6: deal too. Super cute people being super cute with each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was adorable, and maybe it's better that I
Speaker 4: started off so mean, because then he's so adorable you
Speaker 4: can't not respond to You were. I think it was
Speaker 4: the me being so mean to such an objectively sweet,
Speaker 4: adorable person.
Speaker 1: I was watching, going, why am I?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were?
Speaker 3: You were definitely I'm thinking the same thing, like what
Speaker 3: But you know what I.
Speaker 4: Forgot when when I show him the fridge, which is
Speaker 4: coming up very quickly, and I have labels on everything.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, so that was the.
Speaker 4: Character super uptight, organized, ridgid, super organized.
Speaker 1: Forgotten that about Alison.
Speaker 5: You're wondering.
Speaker 1: Decline is so clear in my mind.
Speaker 3: I forgot the suitcases She's like, I gotta get out
Speaker 3: of I can't live with this.
Speaker 5: I'm not paying for this. Pretty uptight, I must say.
Speaker 6: So, I mean basically where we left off is then
Speaker 6: we see when Michael goes back and he's with Jane
Speaker 6: in bed. Is this where Jane is kissing his toe?
Speaker 6: I just have to say, because when that, it's a
Speaker 6: commercial break and it comes back right and it opens
Speaker 6: on Josie like actually kissing a toe, and Doug and
Speaker 6: I were so and it was so Melrose is pushing
Speaker 6: and we're like, did we just see that? Did she
Speaker 6: actually have to do that?
Speaker 1: And she did.
Speaker 6: We had to go back, we had to rewind it
Speaker 6: and make sure watch it again. She crawled up and
Speaker 6: she was so cute and so adorable.
Speaker 3: And he just prove it, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: And then he just continues to be a little bit
Speaker 6: like smug and weird, gorgeous, begging.
Speaker 4: Do you have that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jane, you deserve better, all right. So then Ronda
Speaker 6: is where we meet Ronda and she's peeking through the
Speaker 6: window to see Billy going into Alison's apartment. So she
Speaker 6: is learning.
Speaker 4: Remember we forgot to say that she did say that
Speaker 4: she saw her sneak out and hadn't stopped her, right, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: So Ronda seems to have a little bit of an
Speaker 6: eye on what else is going on in the building.
Speaker 5: She's like, who's the guy, the cute guy.
Speaker 7: Ronda says that yep and uh.
Speaker 6: And she's also shaming Sandy for sleeping until noon.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of energy.
Speaker 6: Sort of funny. But back in Allison and Billy's apartment,
Speaker 6: Alison walks in to find Billy shirtless. Yes yeah yang
Speaker 6: on the shirtless yay winter winner. Alison is the winner,
Speaker 6: and Billy asks Allison if she's told them. Okay, this
Speaker 6: was a super cute scene because it was all like
Speaker 6: the on Tundra, like have you told your parents yet?
Speaker 6: Oh no, but I think they would be supportive, like
Speaker 6: like super cute dialogue with super cute couple, like flirty
Speaker 6: but not supposed to be. And then the thing about
Speaker 6: the food sharing, which is it was just so chiming
Speaker 6: and adorable and labeled not sharing.
Speaker 2: You mean the food not sharing. I don't want your
Speaker 2: peanut butter, you don't get to touch mine, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think those some of the like sometimes
Speaker 4: in a pilot where you have these very strong character
Speaker 4: choices and then they fade because I don't remember that
Speaker 4: about Alison going forward, right, I don't remember seeing the
Speaker 4: labels again.
Speaker 1: That she was pretty a cute idea to have that character.
Speaker 6: It was, Yeah, it was a cute dynamicte I do it.
Speaker 5: And then Melo just left her.
Speaker 1: Boy did it?
Speaker 6: And uh so then Ronda, Ronda is talking with Matt
Speaker 6: who swimming in the pool. So guess what to be
Speaker 6: swimming in the pool, you have to be sure less.
Speaker 4: And you remember if the pool was really warm? Did
Speaker 4: you guys talk about it? Because I was trying to
Speaker 4: remember how warm the pool was as people were swimming
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 6: I remember when I eventually got in the pool and
Speaker 6: your wedding rider there was that, but it.
Speaker 5: Was it was warm.
Speaker 6: It was not a prop like I never felt like
Speaker 6: it was a cold situation. But like Doug said that,
Speaker 6: he remembered and maybe you can corroborate or not that
Speaker 6: because they had dug this pool in a sound stage.
Speaker 6: They had dug out into the floor and built this
Speaker 6: pool in the sound stage. They'd spent so much money
Speaker 6: on it. Mister Spelling was like, we need to use
Speaker 6: the pool. Make sure people are in the pool in
Speaker 6: every episode, and so every episode he was like, who's
Speaker 6: going this week?
Speaker 3: Oh that's so right. Well, they sure piled you all
Speaker 3: into the pilot.
Speaker 6: Right, so I think they were the people were in
Speaker 6: the pool like three or four times in the pilot
Speaker 6: at least, but it was like, get our money's worth
Speaker 6: out of that pool. So yeah.
Speaker 2: The next scene when Billy's dancing with the flower court,
Speaker 2: Oh that was the cute you love doing that scene?
Speaker 5: Do you remember?
Speaker 1: Daly forgot? But watching it, I was like, that is
Speaker 1: the cutest. And I think that was one of the
Speaker 1: audition scenes.
Speaker 3: Oh really, and no wonder he won the job.
Speaker 1: He was adorable, adorable, I know, So was it?
Speaker 5: I don't imagine it being hard.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, you as the character getting lit up
Speaker 2: by him and opening up to that kind of like
Speaker 2: oh I like him and just using that chemistry and
Speaker 2: using your feelings or did you know.
Speaker 1: We were dating by episode like two.
Speaker 7: To you guys actually dating?
Speaker 5: We were actually.
Speaker 4: Flirting, Like any flirting you see was actually we were
Speaker 4: actually flirting.
Speaker 6: It's so funny because they're writing the character is like
Speaker 6: not flirting, but it's impossible not to because it's just
Speaker 6: such cute yeah, chemistry everything.
Speaker 1: As you know, he's so adorable, like is a person, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so adorable.
Speaker 6: That dancing scene because he has to do it twice.
Speaker 6: First he's dancing when you walk in on and he's
Speaker 6: dancing like just kind of on his own and whatever,
Speaker 6: just like with wild abandon and like good for him
Speaker 6: for such commitment and like such, like you know, he
Speaker 6: was not that experience as an actor, right because he
Speaker 6: was he was a soccer player, he's or whatever, and
Speaker 6: he's but he was just so natural and so willing
Speaker 6: to that and it was so charming. So and then
Speaker 6: and Doug was watching it, going, wait, I thought he
Speaker 6: was dancing with the Mop And then sure enough later
Speaker 6: he comes in he has another scene where he's dancing
Speaker 6: with the Mop and he's like, yep, I remember it correctly. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So that was cute. And then of course we're back
Speaker 6: to Kelly showing up at Jake's apartment, and this is
Speaker 6: where you know, they're in this like sort of struggle
Speaker 6: of like should I or shouldn't I? And it's.
Speaker 2: You know what, it's so funny because this is such
Speaker 2: a cliche way for a guy to act after being with,
Speaker 2: you know, leading on a younger girl. I mean not
Speaker 2: even there, not even using their big age difference.
Speaker 1: But it's just like, oh, I.
Speaker 5: Don't remember us. What's the line? I don't remember I
Speaker 5: was planning a future together.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's so like for all the young people
Speaker 2: now they got away with that ship back then and
Speaker 2: we went home ashamed and like what did I do wrong?
Speaker 2: And it's like that doesn't I hope that doesn't happen
Speaker 2: anymore because I would be like so indignant now, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like in this day and age,
Speaker 2: I don't think they could.
Speaker 1: Get away with stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Ye are smarter now than we were. Honestly, I think
Speaker 1: that smarter.
Speaker 5: But that was one of the lines.
Speaker 7: I don't remember us planning a future together?
Speaker 1: And yeah she had she had the line that that, uh,
Speaker 1: what's the problem, Jake. Don't you think I'm all out
Speaker 1: for women everywhere?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Poor baby jokes, you know.
Speaker 6: And speaking of that scene, though, another one of Grant's
Speaker 6: lines that he had to deliver was I hate moral dilemmas.
Speaker 6: He had to say it out loud soap operas, though,
Speaker 6: so jes became the audience doesn't know what I'm going
Speaker 6: through I hate moral Alemma. Yeah, yeah, right, that was
Speaker 6: his moral dilemma.
Speaker 1: That's so funny.
Speaker 6: Okay. So then they end up scene by kissing passionately
Speaker 6: by the pool. Did anybody do a kiss count? Do
Speaker 6: we remember to do a kiss count for this episode?
Speaker 1: I didn't have to remember many in this episode. It
Speaker 1: gets it gets more later.
Speaker 6: I think I forgot. I was counting on one of
Speaker 6: you to remember, Shirtless I counted. So then Allison was
Speaker 6: even for work from Ronda comes by asks her about Billy,
Speaker 6: and Alison complains about Billy again you stink her me,
Speaker 6: complaining that he's messy Alice, all right, whatever, But Ronda
Speaker 6: goes to her exercise class, and we need to talk
Speaker 6: about this because then another sign of the times her
Speaker 6: cardio funk love.
Speaker 1: Did you cringe when they had the closes up on her?
Speaker 6: Like, I was like, wait, the butt, the butt, the butt? Yeah,
Speaker 6: they they went up twice. They went up in the
Speaker 6: butt and then they came back to it. I have
Speaker 6: to say, I couldn't you And it wasn't short.
Speaker 5: It did like it lasted. I'm just like, okay, we
Speaker 5: got it.
Speaker 3: And the guy looking at the girls in front of
Speaker 3: them and they're.
Speaker 1: To be quite so close.
Speaker 6: To be clear, it wasn't Vanessa's, but it was some
Speaker 6: actor who was in the scene, which, by the way,
Speaker 6: was that scene shot in the production office of the
Speaker 6: sound stage. They cleared it out. Do you remember this?
Speaker 6: Doug said, Look that it was the production office space
Speaker 6: of our sound stages, and they dressed it up go
Speaker 6: art department like an aerobics studio lot. And they must
Speaker 6: have had to rehearse that choreography and do all those
Speaker 6: aerobics and cardio funk things. But then that was the
Speaker 6: shot they chose to do. Is this you know actress
Speaker 6: who just appears in one scene and they show her
Speaker 6: butt twice, like from a very awkward angle. It really
Speaker 6: whoa close up And then yeah, see that was just
Speaker 6: a way to do that. We see, Yeah, sign of
Speaker 6: the times for sure, because that would not.
Speaker 2: But can we just pull away from that and like,
Speaker 2: how fun is it seeing those outfits those aerobics outfits
Speaker 2: the belt the Leoitar took a cardiofunk class in the nineties.
Speaker 7: I took Jane Fonda's workout on Robertson same did you.
Speaker 3: I went to Karen.
Speaker 6: I went to Karen Voight and Jane Karen on Losienica.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Losa and Santa Monica, and then also Jane fond
Speaker 2: Is on Robertson Jane found to work out.
Speaker 6: So Vanessa's Karen Farms. Yeah, that was the that was
Speaker 6: the real deal in the nineties.
Speaker 4: That was actually like former I dare you to try
Speaker 4: to do her video now, Yeah, it's like a thousand
Speaker 4: leg lifts so.
Speaker 6: Hard, but if you have the belt, it's probably better
Speaker 6: if you belt your belt.
Speaker 1: That makes a big difference.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, so that a Rubbics class is really
Speaker 6: something and he she ends up having a guy ask
Speaker 6: her out from taking her Rubbics class. So we then
Speaker 6: circle back to D and D where Allison is asked
Speaker 6: by hal Barber about going to an event.
Speaker 1: Very good news and yet we'll get back to that.
Speaker 6: Well, it sounded like good news to Allison at the time,
Speaker 6: but the audience is going, Alison, do you not see.
Speaker 2: The audience now or don't you think the audience back
Speaker 2: then was like She's yeah, I mean I watched it.
Speaker 5: You can look at it through.
Speaker 1: Through the way. How played it? The audience knew it was.
Speaker 1: He wasn't subtle, he was not he was really playing it.
Speaker 6: But I do think that the times were different, like
Speaker 6: because the character's written as like she just needs to
Speaker 6: go smile and go, oh great, thank you, I'm so excited.
Speaker 6: Like the expectation is you're just supposed to be, you know,
Speaker 6: ignoring all those signs and and just like taking like
Speaker 6: the gift of this invitation.
Speaker 1: As I was thinking, I was so much nicer to
Speaker 1: him than I was to Sweet.
Speaker 6: Billy I was watching, which is like Barry Macks. Oh boy.
Speaker 4: So then Rondo stops by Jane store. Was that the
Speaker 4: makeup was that the wardrobe trailer her store looked like
Speaker 4: the wardrobe trailer to me.
Speaker 6: Interesting, it seemed bigger than that because it was two rooms, right,
Speaker 6: didn't they go? They kept going from one to another.
Speaker 1: I thought it looked like the wardrobe trailer to me.
Speaker 5: I don't think so that's so small.
Speaker 1: But or the room, remember we had the wardrobe rooms
Speaker 1: upstairs and buff maybe that mabe it was, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what it looked like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but that was cute. And and Josie and
Speaker 6: Vanessa had like a ton of dialogue and they're going
Speaker 6: back and forth, and yeah, it was really cute. So
Speaker 6: then back at the burger joint. Donna can't believe Saney
Speaker 6: high schoolers yep, yep, And I can't believe Jake ignored
Speaker 6: you and you're still going to pursue it blah blah
Speaker 6: blah blah. But back to Billy and Allison, where Billy's
Speaker 6: dancing again. So this is the second time we were
Speaker 6: dancing with the mop and he's so cute, and you
Speaker 6: learn Allison learns that he's an Arthur Murray dance teacher,
Speaker 6: which is so funny to me. That is not something
Speaker 6: I recalled at all.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember it last.
Speaker 7: All probably did last.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the ways.
Speaker 5: And then it's so.
Speaker 1: Funny down to Billy, I will live with you. That
Speaker 1: does not mean I have to dance with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but with a little cute little KOI like
Speaker 6: cute little glisten in your eye, Oh my gosh. And
Speaker 6: so then there's the shooter scene where all the high
Speaker 6: schoolers show up to sort of back Kelly up as
Speaker 6: she's trying to have.
Speaker 1: A date with Jacob.
Speaker 5: This motorcycle kind of up on him.
Speaker 6: Kind of yeah, but that's where I was struck by
Speaker 6: Ian Zeering's mullet. Yes as maybe the best worst hair
Speaker 6: of the episode that stood out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great sign of the times.
Speaker 6: Yes, and that's where I noticed that maybe Brian Austin
Speaker 6: Green's voice had he was super young too, Yeah, it
Speaker 6: just seems really young. But yeah, So Sandy learns that
Speaker 6: Ian has a very famous actress mom, and she's, you know,
Speaker 6: gaga over that. But back at the apartment building, Jane
Speaker 6: is planning for a romantic night. She's made a nice dinner,
Speaker 6: a nice bottle of wine. When Michael comes home from work.
Speaker 6: Did you notice it was eleven thirty at night.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking that's too late to eat, but
Speaker 4: I'm five o'clock or did they say that's what they said,
Speaker 4: it's eleven thirty at night.
Speaker 5: Oh oh that you were listening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, God bless her.
Speaker 4: Like the way he stays up till eleven thirty to
Speaker 4: cook dinner after doctors hours.
Speaker 1: Wow. But when the phone rang and still can't she
Speaker 1: still can't get laid, no what And she just couldn't.
Speaker 6: Be sweeter and he couldn't be like yeah, it's hilarious,
Speaker 6: and he just couldn't be less interested. So when the
Speaker 6: phone rings in the middle of their dinner, my first
Speaker 6: impulse is like, well, it's not Sydney because she's not
Speaker 6: there yet, because usually that's what it is. It's like, uh,
Speaker 6: Sydney is in jail again something like that, but it's
Speaker 6: not as ye wait for wait for it, because it
Speaker 6: will be Sydney down the line. But now it's the
Speaker 6: landlord and there's been a bounced check which was bail.
Speaker 4: Was also like you would never answer the phone at
Speaker 4: eleven thirty. That was in the time, the thing about
Speaker 4: then we answered the phone when the phone rang, went
Speaker 4: oh phone, that's all we had, Like you never could
Speaker 4: you never thought of not answering your phone the phone
Speaker 4: with thirty at door.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that of course was Billy's bounced rent check. Yes,
Speaker 6: so there's that. What's gonna happen if they can't pay
Speaker 6: their rest the next morning?
Speaker 2: Jane in the pool, I just I can see your
Speaker 2: point about Aaron Spelling saying get him in the bowl because.
Speaker 5: You know she's in the pool. Yeah, you can buye
Speaker 5: a chat with her and.
Speaker 1: You're I think there was more in the pilot.
Speaker 4: I think over time we started to take a stand
Speaker 4: and also then you'd have to redo hair and makeup,
Speaker 4: and nobody wanted the time to redo hair and makeup. Remember,
Speaker 4: because there were so many of us, So I think
Speaker 4: that that lessoned and the pilot were like, sure, i'll
Speaker 4: do it, I'll do it, yes, service to spelling.
Speaker 1: I'll do it. And then people sort of backed away
Speaker 1: from it.
Speaker 6: But like in this scene, Jake comes up and he's
Speaker 6: threatening to throw Alison in, and hair and makeup is
Speaker 6: probably going no no, no, no, no no no no,
Speaker 6: like no no, and so you in turn you push
Speaker 6: Jake in instead, and Jake is the one who has
Speaker 6: to go in the pool because, let me guess, is
Speaker 6: he shirtless? As a matter of fact, he was, yes,
Speaker 6: oh stress and I've lost county. No, I'll give you
Speaker 6: a final talent at the end, unless anybody's keeping track
Speaker 6: along with me. Then back at D and D at
Speaker 6: the advertising agents, see how surprises ow Oh wait no,
Speaker 6: here's where he gets invited to the thing. So there
Speaker 6: was all these things leading up to the actual invitation.
Speaker 6: But now he's finally inviting our and cheese going and
Speaker 6: Ronda is getting excited about her night out because she
Speaker 6: has a new dress to wear and she.
Speaker 1: Wants to a handsome guy. Yeah, we all had such
Speaker 1: high hopes for that date.
Speaker 6: And I love their relationship like Ronda and Matt's like
Speaker 6: friendship and like she goes straight to Matt like and
Speaker 6: he's he's like totally adorably appreciative of her looking great
Speaker 6: and wishing her well and having a great night. And
Speaker 6: that was such a cute relation to rible, don't do
Speaker 6: anything I wouldn't do, Okay, Matt. So then we're at
Speaker 6: the hel Hell's taking Alison too, the client work party,
Speaker 6: and yeah, and Alison's such an adorable in her polka
Speaker 6: dot dress, being so grateful to be there and so
Speaker 6: excited about the people she might meet and what could
Speaker 6: possibly go wrong? Could they possibly go wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And then but on the other hand, Ronda and her
Speaker 6: date are having dinner on Melrose. Was Kafy Luna? Was
Speaker 6: that an actual restaurant? Was that a name that we
Speaker 6: changed her?
Speaker 5: Cafe?
Speaker 1: Cafe Luna was a restaurant.
Speaker 6: It was an actual rest Yeah, yeah, we remember when
Speaker 6: we used We used like regular locations and like we
Speaker 6: went to place. Yeah, but their date goes wrong because
Speaker 6: he's really only interested in proposing a multi level marketing
Speaker 6: level marketing.
Speaker 4: That was so heartbreaking that moment, right, she was devastated. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was that was catfishing in the nineties. They wouldn't
Speaker 4: steal your money, but they try to sell you multi level.
Speaker 6: I only see you as an opportunity for my multi
Speaker 6: level mictings.
Speaker 1: That was sad.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So then the other couple sort of struggling is
Speaker 6: Kelly and Jake as Kelly one more time is trying
Speaker 6: to girl.
Speaker 5: She does not get the third or fourth time. I
Speaker 5: was like, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just not that into you. Yeah, that movie
Speaker 1: hadn't come out yet, or the book where we couldn't help.
Speaker 6: Her then, yeah, she had not read it. But he
Speaker 6: did answer the door while pulling a tank top on,
Speaker 6: so he's like, all right, I'm not doing this shirtless.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna have a tank top on. So yeah,
Speaker 6: then but in Alison and Billy's apartment, he is.
Speaker 5: He shirtless for this?
Speaker 6: When Billy sticks out the bed, Yeah, shirtless on the bed. Okay,
Speaker 6: when hell comes in and he's just super smart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, super super smart comes after her, and why is
Speaker 4: he at her apartment?
Speaker 1: Why did she let him pick? But that was before right,
Speaker 1: people picked us up.
Speaker 4: I don't remember I never met anybody for first date.
Speaker 4: They always picked me up at my apartment, right, such
Speaker 4: a different time. Then.
Speaker 6: Did you see how he was walking Alison across the courtyard.
Speaker 6: He had you by the elbow and he was like
Speaker 6: steering you like okay, this way, young lady to the
Speaker 6: principal character just sort of really apartment yeah, like walking
Speaker 6: out across the courtyard up to the apartment door.
Speaker 5: This isn't there kind of like this this assumed.
Speaker 2: I know this is hard to say now because we're
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, but he's your boss, this is work,
Speaker 2: this is safe.
Speaker 5: I'm fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just assume, you know, he's my senior, Like.
Speaker 5: It's you just don't. It's so weird all these things.
Speaker 7: It's confusing because it's so confused.
Speaker 5: I remember thinking that.
Speaker 3: Like you know, and oh, yeah, well he's my boss or.
Speaker 4: Well that's why when these stories came out about women
Speaker 4: being taken advantage of and be like, how did she
Speaker 4: not know? It's like, because we had an assumption that
Speaker 4: this is a person I respect, they're my boss, they wouldn't.
Speaker 4: It was surprising. You're right, we were more naiven. It
Speaker 4: was a very different time. So I think when people
Speaker 4: roll their eyes and say how why didn't she know?
Speaker 4: We didn't like we thought there was an understanding that
Speaker 4: there's going to be respect here. So I do understand
Speaker 4: why Alison was surprised and how adorable Andrew coming out
Speaker 4: in his boxers yes to take a stand right, and
Speaker 4: how the actor was so much bigger than Andrew. But
Speaker 4: Andrew's holding his own Yeah, she's my wife, bigger and older.
Speaker 6: I was noting, like, there's these two really young, adorable
Speaker 6: kids going get out, get yeah. And Andrew's like, get out,
Speaker 6: you older man, gross guy, and he's like, okay, you kiddo,
Speaker 6: you know what he does. And then like that was
Speaker 6: just such a funny little dynamic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so sweet that it came out to
Speaker 1: take a stand that was adorable, so that you.
Speaker 6: Know, we can see where this is headed with Alison
Speaker 6: and Billy and we're all here for it. And then
Speaker 6: Michael and Jane are. Michael is waking Jane up in
Speaker 6: bed with breakfast in bed, and did anybody else notice?
Speaker 6: He's like, are you up?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 3: I was like, what I do for you?
Speaker 6: Look what you want?
Speaker 5: A cookie?
Speaker 3: It was can I sleep in? Cannot be your prize?
Speaker 7: Like she he wakes her up to say, look what
Speaker 7: I did for you?
Speaker 2: Money?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am the dishwasher.
Speaker 6: But then Josie was so lovely in that scene where
Speaker 6: she says I'm lonely, Like Josie as the actress in
Speaker 6: that scene, like with what she's doing, she had the
Speaker 6: most authentic, like emotional, vulnerable, vulnerable moment of like I'm lonely, and.
Speaker 1: It was so so sweetly and we have to like,
Speaker 1: you need to pay attention to me, you need to listen.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, that was so lovely. So anyway, poor
Speaker 6: Jane is just not getting what she needs from this marriage.
Speaker 5: And then they embrace. So that's kind of like a
Speaker 5: button on you know that that stories come somewhere.
Speaker 6: I mean, I will say he did sort of slammer
Speaker 6: down on the bed and they like kissed hard after
Speaker 6: an hour, that kind of embrace. But yes, it was
Speaker 6: an embrace, and she was lovely.
Speaker 1: And then they all gather for a pool party, because
Speaker 1: we had a lot of those in the beginning. There
Speaker 1: was always a pool party.
Speaker 4: And I remember like the argument about wearing a bathing
Speaker 4: sit anyone her bathing, So apparently I compromised on really
Speaker 4: thick bike shorts, which.
Speaker 1: Seemed like really bad choice. I'm going to get a
Speaker 1: really thick cotton bike.
Speaker 6: Really I looked really cute.
Speaker 4: And what a bad call, though, Like just suck it
Speaker 4: up and wear a bathing suit. It would have been
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 5: Less about his grill.
Speaker 6: Do you feel like he remembered saying I don't want
Speaker 6: to be in a bathing suit or that was That's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I remember being so insecure and so self conscious about
Speaker 4: that gorgeous twenty four year old body, which again breaks
Speaker 4: my heart.
Speaker 1: How hard I was on myself at that age. How
Speaker 1: hard I was because it's.
Speaker 4: Adorable, Like we all looked adorable, but those voices, you know,
Speaker 4: obviously society, my own whatever it was. That's why I
Speaker 4: was wearing that ridiculous thing because I was too shy
Speaker 4: to wear a bathing suit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you looked really cute Sandy there, and they're
Speaker 2: you know, in her that archetypal thing and she's always
Speaker 2: half naked or whatever.
Speaker 4: I know, But I wasted so much time, Like I
Speaker 4: remember looking back, and I did a lot of fitness
Speaker 4: stuff things it wasn't a fitness and I remember seeing
Speaker 4: like a cover I did on a fitness magazine, and
Speaker 4: I remember how I felt about myself and looking at it.
Speaker 1: I was like, God, I just couldn't see myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, like you as hard as a young woman, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm so much kinder about my much older body now,
Speaker 4: I'm so much more.
Speaker 1: I would never do that to myself today. And it's
Speaker 1: just heartbreaking that I wasted so much time being so
Speaker 1: hard on myself.
Speaker 6: And I don't think that's changed. I think women now,
Speaker 6: like these young women are picking themselves apart and you know,
Speaker 6: comparing and looking at all these little things when when
Speaker 6: we can look at them through our eyes and so
Speaker 6: you're beautiful, and it's just but they can't. You can't
Speaker 6: see it on yourself that age, and it's just.
Speaker 2: Heart I think times have changed, frankly, and I see
Speaker 2: more body types. You see more body types and commercials
Speaker 2: and out there.
Speaker 5: And we didn't have that. We had like a stick.
Speaker 5: They meant it. They meant blonde and skinny and boobs
Speaker 5: and that's it.
Speaker 7: Like that's what was on the covers of magazines and stuff.
Speaker 5: You know, these supermodels. This was the nineties.
Speaker 4: That was that.
Speaker 2: And what I see now, I'm like, wow, wow, you
Speaker 2: could you would never see that normal looking young woman
Speaker 2: or middle aged woman on a commercial ever.
Speaker 7: And now you do see it, and I feel like
Speaker 7: it is a little more open and accepting.
Speaker 5: I mean, I hope that's thanks goodness. Well, that's it.
Speaker 6: We end. We end the episode and the pilot with
Speaker 6: everybody playing. Was that a chicken fight called the chicken fight?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fight chicken in the pool?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because who doesn't fight? Get all of your as
Speaker 4: we were younger, all right, and that's the end. So uh, anything,
Speaker 4: any favorite hair, any favorite clothes, anything you noticed. Like
Speaker 4: I said, I was surprised by how current the clothes looked,
Speaker 4: how cute it looked. Love my first outfit. Not crazy
Speaker 4: about my hair, but it's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 4: bad hair over the course of that series.
Speaker 6: I haven't appeared like I don't even know.
Speaker 1: What was the shirt count?
Speaker 6: Okay, so I counted thirteen, but I have to say
Speaker 6: it was hard to keep track as I was tallying.
Speaker 6: So any listeners who count a different number, I am
Speaker 6: open to like being corrected on that. But I counted thirteen. Wow,
Speaker 6: all the guys.
Speaker 4: At least I was to mention, like in the scene
Speaker 4: with me and Andrew and I had that like that
Speaker 4: big fluffy robe, how where I'm in the big fluffy
Speaker 4: Blue Moon and Stars robe.
Speaker 3: Which is everybody wanted at the time.
Speaker 1: That was a big thing at the time.
Speaker 4: They made it very recently. I wore it for years
Speaker 4: and he's naked, like they never made us be naxt.
Speaker 6: I bet that robe sold a million robes because it
Speaker 6: was adorable on being on Allison on the show, and
Speaker 6: it was on for years, like for seconds, it was
Speaker 6: like icronic, just that wardrobe item. But I bet I
Speaker 6: wanted one.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Speaking of wardrobe, I noticed from the very end I
Speaker 2: noticed two things. One Andrew was wearing a Dartmouth shirt.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I meant to say that, yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: And then I noticed at the very end.
Speaker 2: Doug was wearing Matt was wearing a Rock the Vote
Speaker 2: T shirt, which was all the rage in which I
Speaker 2: was very good friends with the person who started that,
Speaker 2: nice Patrick Uh, and we were very involved in the.
Speaker 5: Beginning of Rock the Vote.
Speaker 7: So it was really cool, like getting getting messages out there.
Speaker 7: Janine was I don't know if he chose it.
Speaker 6: If it was he, he said that he was all
Speaker 6: you know, very much in the beginning. That was very
Speaker 6: much his wardrobe. He always had a political statement on
Speaker 6: his shirt. And there was another one later in the episode.
Speaker 6: I think the last shirt he was wearing had censorship
Speaker 6: was the word on his T shirt. So yeah, he
Speaker 6: had two different sort of political statements that he was wearing. Yeah,
Speaker 6: as his character, so many things to talk about, so
Speaker 6: many things to cover, and I think I think we did.
Speaker 6: We hit all of the things we wanted to hit,
Speaker 6: like the favorites and the most memorable line, did anybody
Speaker 6: have any Well?
Speaker 5: I liked yours about the moral dilemma? That was that
Speaker 5: crazy kind of just stuck out. You know.
Speaker 2: What really struck me was the hair, like not just
Speaker 2: you're not even yes your hair, but the but Sandy's hair,
Speaker 2: just the there's a lot of hair spray, a lot
Speaker 2: of hairspray.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was stiff, it was there was a less
Speaker 4: scrunchless scrunch spray, hair spray. Most do you guys remember
Speaker 4: that Every day at about ten thirty, they would bring
Speaker 4: out huge tubs of tuna, no tuna, you don't remember that,
Speaker 4: and these huge hubs and everybody would eat.
Speaker 1: It was so disgusting.
Speaker 4: It was like a protein break because we've been there
Speaker 4: since you know, six am. And people would go hi, like, oh, people.
Speaker 5: You're trying to be healthy.
Speaker 1: You don't remember that. I do not remember that.
Speaker 6: God. Well, so we get to talk about an episode
Speaker 6: in another week, we get to come back and talk
Speaker 6: about the next episode, and there's so much to talk about,
Speaker 6: and we'll we'll start to one is a yeah, we
Speaker 6: start to think about having guests.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wait to see you guys next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's so fun, very fun.