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Speaker 1: It's time to catch a Cheater.

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Speaker 2: Only on the Jubile Show, Laura is on the phone

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Speaker 2: today for to Catch a Cheater and she thinks that

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Speaker 2: her husband of four years named Cam might be sleeping around.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully he isn't, but we'll see if we can

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Speaker 2: help you out, Laura, why don't you tell us what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 1: So Kim my husband of like four years, and we've

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Speaker 1: been through a lot, but I would say mostly mostly good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't really fight much, but when we do,

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Speaker 1: it tends to always be kind of the same topic.

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Speaker 1: So Kim's trying to have like this former life, like

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Speaker 1: a whole different side of Cam. And he even actually

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Speaker 1: refers to it as like the time before we met

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Speaker 1: and he was just like a completely completely different person,

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Speaker 1: like different career, different friends. But there's like this one

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Speaker 1: friend that he has, but I don't know just from

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Speaker 1: like day one, I have not been able to get past, Like.

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Speaker 3: So who is the friend? Like is it a guy

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Speaker 3: friend that gets him into trouble? Is it a girlfriend

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Speaker 3: you don't want him saying time with? So it so

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Speaker 3: with a girl named Holly And through.

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Speaker 1: The years, like he's told me all these stories about

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Speaker 1: he and Holly's to like party really hard, and they'd

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Speaker 1: be like closing the bars and they'd like even go

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Speaker 1: to rais and they've even you know, almost got arrested

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Speaker 1: several times, and like just like complete opposite of how

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Speaker 1: he is now. He's stayed friends with Holly this whole time,

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Speaker 1: and you know, to be honest, I haven't I haven't.

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Speaker 4: Been thrilled about that.

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Speaker 1: But but it's like things have be totally taken a turn,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like he's hiding something about Holly.

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Speaker 5: I can tell.

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Speaker 1: I can tell when he's been like communicating with her

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Speaker 1: and he's like starting to like leave the room when

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Speaker 1: she calls. And the first even like one night where

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Speaker 1: he was just texting like really late and like kind

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Speaker 1: of let the room and then like would go out

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Speaker 1: and then come back in and texting. And I did

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Speaker 1: ask him about it, and he said something like she

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Speaker 1: just needed advice from him, and then he and like

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Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't even go any further than that,

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Speaker 1: just like she needs some advice. He never said that

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Speaker 1: they like anything happened between them. I get this like

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Speaker 1: weird feeling before us that maybe something's happening. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he kind of somewhat hinted at it, but never said

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Speaker 1: like there was anything between them. So my last traw,

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Speaker 1: I got an email from our cell phone company and

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Speaker 1: it said that there's been a phone added and it

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Speaker 1: was in halling his name and yeah, and it's like

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Speaker 1: a nice, nice new phone, and so you know, I

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Speaker 1: saw this, and I'm just like, so basically, that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm calling you guys, because I like that that's just

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Speaker 1: my radar antenna or whatever have been up. And this

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Speaker 1: was kind of this was like the last stor aw would.

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Speaker 4: You add him one to your phone plan? That's so obvious? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it feels kind of sloppy.

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Speaker 3: But also if he doesn't think that she's seeing the

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Speaker 3: phone staff, maybe it's like, well, why would you give

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Speaker 3: your side piece like a burner phone and neither that

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Speaker 3: your wife could see. Yeah, unless it's like hiding in

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Speaker 3: plain sight, right.

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Speaker 4: Like wants to be caught.

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Speaker 3: Is he acting different outside of the way that he

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Speaker 3: communicates with Holly? Like, is he still good with you

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Speaker 3: or is he just kind of more stand offish?

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Speaker 1: No, things actually don't seem different with us.

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Speaker 5: I guess I've been.

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Speaker 1: A bit more like stressed out and like suspicious and

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Speaker 3: From me any thought, but you just feel like there's

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Speaker 3: a third person in your relationship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean the phone thing is strange.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And what did he say about it?

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Speaker 1: Well, he didn't say about the phone. He when I,

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Speaker 1: you know, was asking him why he was like talking

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Speaker 2: And did you ask him about adding her on the phone? No,

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Speaker 2: Oh you didn't. Okay, Okay, okay, so he doesn't know

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Speaker 2: that you know that. No, Well, we'll see if we

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Speaker 2: can figure it out. You already told us what grocery store

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Speaker 2: you guys are awards card member at. So we'll call

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Speaker 2: and pretend to be from the grocery store and say

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Speaker 2: that every single month, we choose one Rewards card member

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Speaker 2: at random who gets free flowers delivered from our floral department.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he sends those to you or to

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Speaker 2: someone else or her right, Okay, hopefully not, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a song, come back and get your catch

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Speaker 2: theeeter next. If you're just joining us for Today's to

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Speaker 2: Catch a Cheater. Laura is on the phone and she

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Speaker 2: thinks that her husband, Cam of four years, might be cheating.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call and pretend to be from

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Speaker 2: the grocery store that the Rewards card members at and

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Speaker 2: say that he's the lucky winner. Every single month, we

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Speaker 2: choose one Rewards Card member who gets free flowers delivered

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Speaker 2: from our floral department. We'll see if he sends those

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Speaker 2: flowers to Laura or to somebody else. But before we

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Speaker 2: do that, Laura, why don't you refresh everybody's memory on

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Speaker 2: your situation.

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Speaker 1: So Cam has this like longtime friend from before we

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Speaker 1: Brammare together and Holly and and he just has been

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Speaker 1: texting her a lot. And I don't know, like walking

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Speaker 1: away texting, And basically I found out from our phone

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Speaker 1: company that he's added her a phone on our plan.

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Speaker 5: So weird. That is weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you haven't asked him about that.

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Speaker 1: No, that's why I called you, guys. I just I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what, you know, if you made it a

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Speaker 5: So I figure you guys could get to the bottom

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's not an ex but she's somebody that

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Speaker 3: you think he may have had a thing with at

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, cool, okay.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Thanks, here we go. Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Jordan. I'm calling from I was

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Speaker 2: looking for our rewards card member named Cam.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Cam, please don't hang up. This is not a marketing

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Speaker 2: phone call. I'm actually I want to say thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for shopping with us, and congratulations you're this

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Speaker 2: month's big winner.

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Speaker 5: Oh, so, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Every single month, we choose one Rewards card member at

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for shopping. You've just won thirty

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Speaker 2: six long stim red roses, a box of candy, your chocolates,

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Speaker 2: want with in the United into the fifty United States.

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Speaker 3: Well that's cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know you guys did this.

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Speaker 2: Well we do, and you are this month's lucky winner.

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Speaker 2: So I will first need the first and last name

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Speaker 2: of the person you'd like to send them to.

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Speaker 5: It's a Holly.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to put anything in a card.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always here for you, love cam.

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Speaker 2: And now I will inform you that this is not

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Speaker 2: the grocery store at all. My name is Jewbell and

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Speaker 2: this is a radio show. It's called The Jewel Show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hi, camer all here. My name is Nina, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I'm Victoria. And your wife Laura is actually on

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Speaker 3: the phone. What we do a segment on the show

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Speaker 3: call to catch a Cheater, and we try to see

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Speaker 3: if people are cheating based on here some flower suit

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Speaker 3: and your wife suspected you might be sleeping around and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure she's got some questions for you.

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Speaker 1: Great, that's all that's all you have? Is great?

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Speaker 5: Really, what is this? What are you? What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Like you had you went, you had to go through

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Speaker 5: your length. You kind of just talk to me about this.

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Speaker 5: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What am I doing? What are you doing? My god?

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, this is this is a ridiculous way of

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Speaker 4: Are you cheating? I feel like we just need to ask, like.

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Speaker 5: No, no, I'm not cheating.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh really, how do you explain You're sending flowers

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Speaker 1: to Hollie and you add her to our phone plan?

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Speaker 1: Like what?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so stupid obviously, I know you don't like her.

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Speaker 5: It's just not a secret. And she and I have

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Speaker 5: their friends for a long time, and her boyfriend of

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Speaker 5: five years left her. He was like the main breadwinner.

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Speaker 5: He was cheating on her. She caught him. I know

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Speaker 5: this is ironic considering the situation. He took everything and

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you tell your wife.

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Speaker 5: Like she of course she's going to misconstrued things. You know,

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Speaker 5: she's gonna look deeper into like I think it's worse

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Speaker 2: I mean, has your wife, has Laura your wife cam

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Speaker 5: No, what I mean I can tell she it bothers her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's not exactly a very compassionate way to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I know how it sounds and I

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Speaker 4: Really making a compelling argument.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of waiting for that. I love you, baby,

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. This is such a misunderstanding, Laura. Are

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm so confused. Knowing Cam's heart, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: something he would do, but like the mistrust of me

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Speaker 1: to like to not be able to like tell your

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Speaker 1: such a like a lack of trust in me. And

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Speaker 1: I'm so confused. I honestly, I don't know what to think.

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Speaker 5: Like, I'm sorry, I really am. I just I just

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Speaker 5: didn't want there to be any more resentment? Did you

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Speaker 5: I'm basically uncomfortable I did. I figured me doing this

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Speaker 5: stuff for her would make you even more uncomfortable, resent

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Speaker 5: her even more, so, you know, to keep quiet about it.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to like add more stress to Holly's

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Speaker 5: life either. Not cheating on you all I love you

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Speaker 5: is just like I just was scared to tell you

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Speaker 5: because I didn't, you know, I want you to freak

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Speaker 5: out or get a set about it, and I want

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Speaker 5: you to read more into it than what it was.

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Speaker 1: You can see how this looks though, like.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I know it looks hard, but I know I'm

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Speaker 5: by everything. But yeah, I mean, I just I just

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Speaker 5: just I'm just trying to help out a friend, you know,

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Speaker 5: like this whole her boyfriend leaving her was totally abrupt,

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Speaker 5: and you know she's kind of a mess about it.

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Speaker 5: So who's just trying to help her?

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Speaker 1: But but you said love cam on your flowers, like

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Speaker 5: I said, I said it to her before you know,

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Speaker 5: it's like she's my friend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, you promise, Naters did.

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Speaker 5: Nothing like I promise. I promised. There's nothing going.

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Speaker 4: On that sounds like you need to sit down, And just.

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Speaker 5: Like I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: I think we should sit down with Holly because you

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Speaker 1: know what, if this is so important, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not cruel, like if she's really in need,

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Speaker 1: we're a team and we both need to be there

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Speaker 1: for her, and I think that is a great idea.

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Speaker 4: No more secrets.

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Speaker 1: I just this is. This has been like the scariest

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Speaker 1: time I've gone through, and LONG think.

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Speaker 5: It could be right to you too. We sat down

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Speaker 5: and I think if you saw Holly, you would you know,

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Speaker 5: understand there's nothing else going on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, let's let's do that.

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Speaker 5: I think I think we.

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Speaker 1: All need need that right now.

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Speaker 4: I need that right now.

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Speaker 5: I want to go.

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Speaker 4: I want to see it myself too.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I know you guys obviously have stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Cam sounds sincere to me, though, like it does sound

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Speaker 2: that way, and I actually kind.

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Speaker 3: Of respect the fact that he's looking out for his

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Speaker 3: friend that way. Communication.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, I.

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Speaker 2: Know you didn't want to tell your wife that you

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Speaker 2: were helping your friend out like that because you were

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Speaker 2: certain she might think something. But by you not telling her,

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Speaker 2: it actually looks worse than if you did tell her.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Oh, I know, Okay, good luck.

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Speaker 2: And good luck you know, talk it out and hopefully

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Speaker 2: you guys can all get together and and work things out. O.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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