WEBVTT - Part Four: The Andrew Tate Story

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the podcast that I

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<v Speaker 1>just tried to introduce badly. Uh, and I then completely

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to start recording. Um. So I'm I'm I'm great. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so good. Uh do we do we have a guest?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name of the show? What's happening? I don't know, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have a guest? Who? Who are we? What

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<v Speaker 1>do we do? Where are which is Behind the Bastards?

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<v Speaker 1>You're Robert Evans, I'm your I'm your overlord, Sophie Lichtman,

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<v Speaker 1>And our guest is Ian Johnson, our wonderful Hi. I hey, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>Ian Johnson, incredible editor, Sophie podcast and furor. Um, I've

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<v Speaker 1>done that and it's cringe every time. The last note

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<v Speaker 1>will not. Um. Well, you know we're talking about Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>em Marie Tate. Uh and boy, howdye m are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Andrew Marie Tate. We just finished talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Hustlers University. Uh. And we're about to get into Hustlers

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<v Speaker 1>University two point oh, because Andrew understands branding if nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into that, I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. So obviously, while this is going on

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<v Speaker 1>while he's launching this series of online classes and deliberately

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<v Speaker 1>courting controversy online by saying like funked up shit about

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<v Speaker 1>women to go viral. He's also constantly guesting on every

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<v Speaker 1>right wing podcast that will have him. Um and because

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<v Speaker 1>of the world is the way it is, info Wars

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<v Speaker 1>is the first place he's able to like really get

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<v Speaker 1>some traction, and he's going to abandon them as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as he can, like everybody who gets their start out

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<v Speaker 1>info Wars, because it's a dead end. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>you want to escape Info Wars and get on. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to eventually be interviewed by like fucking Pierce Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>and ship um, but at first he he's reliant upon them.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alex Jones sees the potential in this guy and decides,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try and make Andrew a part of

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<v Speaker 1>my business, which is the thing that that Alex does regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>And it leads us to this beautiful ad for the

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<v Speaker 1>supplement line that Alex made branded based on Andrew Tate. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's an ad for Andrew Tate branded Info Wars supplements.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, oh this is this is a real treat

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone to get a job, the man to get

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<v Speaker 1>a job. They inflate the currency so nobody can exist

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<v Speaker 1>in any other way because it's too expensive. The parents

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<v Speaker 1>are not working all day to school and the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>and the matrix raise your children. Your children go to

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<v Speaker 1>school all day and be told things that you may

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<v Speaker 1>not want them to learn. Then they sit on the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet and read things and watch things you may not

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<v Speaker 1>want them to watch. You talked to him for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, they go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>You're fighting with your ten minutes against endless hours of

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<v Speaker 1>the most entertaining programming or the most forceful programming, And

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<v Speaker 1>school is forceful on the Internet's entertaining, convincing them of

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that you perhaps don't agree with. I've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>myself on YouTube. I've seen a guy in America driving

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<v Speaker 1>his car and his kids were in the back seat

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<v Speaker 1>and he was our with them an issue and they

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<v Speaker 1>was like, where did you hear that? School? He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why did the school tell you that that's not true?

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<v Speaker 1>And his own children are arguing with him because they

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<v Speaker 1>learned to in school. Have you ever tried to take

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<v Speaker 1>your children out of school? You'll get fined, You get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. Now your kids have to go to school.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to give your kids away to the school.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't give your kids a way to the brainwashing,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get in trouble. As an all starfighter, businessman, motivational speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is like here we go. This is

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<v Speaker 1>so fin I thought andrew something up. No, just leading

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<v Speaker 1>us in with like this mix of Christian conservative fearmongering

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<v Speaker 1>and like divorce dad fearmongering. It's perfect, It's perfect. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we get Alex let's go. Speaker and philanthropist Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Tate has truly earned the title of top G. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's another title Andrew Tate hold that has enraged the globalist.

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<v Speaker 1>He is consecutively the most googled man in the world

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<v Speaker 1>in the last two years, and that's because his message

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<v Speaker 1>is about human and specifically male empowerment. Now Andrew Tate

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<v Speaker 1>is taking his fight to empower and supercharge men to

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<v Speaker 1>new supplements. They're the highest quality on the market. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a whole bunch of men in the world

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<v Speaker 1>who understands my value. And if men grow up to

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<v Speaker 1>be like me, you're gonna have a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people with no criminal record, dedicated athletes. Alright, that's probably enough.

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<v Speaker 1>No criminal record, Buddy scares in that video, So first amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's lawlessly third of Jake Paul's face. Yeah, did

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<v Speaker 1>you see the names of the supplements on the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's go through that. That's probably that's that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>it was. They were like those names from that Like

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<v Speaker 1>other video we watched in the last episode was like

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<v Speaker 1>sheer per per. I don't even know those words, like

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<v Speaker 1>sheer perdacity or perspicacity. Yeah, perspicacity, those are like the

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<v Speaker 1>names of the supplements. And because he's trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>like a Mohammed Ali thing, right, Like Mohammed Ali would

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<v Speaker 1>always describe himself and he's very florid off in like

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<v Speaker 1>rhyming terms. But Mohammed Ali also uh could back up

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<v Speaker 1>every single thing he said about himself, um, which which

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Tate cannot um. But it also doesn't matter because

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about it's all about making making the image work.

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<v Speaker 1>So one Andrew Tate's image is working very well. He

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<v Speaker 1>has become one of the most popular accounts on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, am, He's got a pretty prominent YouTube. He

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<v Speaker 1>is huge on TikTok. You know, we're talking like millions

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<v Speaker 1>and millions of followers and combine several billion impressions just

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<v Speaker 1>in like the top g term on TikTok and ship um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he launches Hustlers University two point oh. So

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<v Speaker 1>he had been selling a bunch of different classes. He

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<v Speaker 1>pairs that down and he focuses just on money making schemes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the gist is this for about fifty dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the classes for free. Um and you also

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<v Speaker 1>get let into this discordse Sorry, for fifty dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the classes for free, so um um. But

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<v Speaker 1>what about the fifty dollars a month? Well, sorry, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get the classes for free. For fifty dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 1>you get access to the classes and to a series

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<v Speaker 1>of Discord rooms. Discord is like a chat service you

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<v Speaker 1>can do voice and text chat um. And basically what

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<v Speaker 1>he's what he is selling is I built this community

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<v Speaker 1>of people who have gotten rich using my tactics, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you pay this monthly fee, then you'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with us and they will coach you on

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<v Speaker 1>how to make money and you can watch all of

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<v Speaker 1>our videos on how to make money too. And he

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, that's like kind of brilliant on two levels.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hate it for it because a subscription model

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<v Speaker 1>is just passive income coming in every month as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you can maintain that subscriber base. And now he

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<v Speaker 1>has other people doing the work for him. He has

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<v Speaker 1>comity doing the teachings, he doesn't even have to do

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<v Speaker 1>an actual and the schemes that he's because he has

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<v Speaker 1>like you get to pick like one of three or

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<v Speaker 1>four different money making paths to go down when you

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<v Speaker 1>join Hustlers University. It's a little like a video games

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<v Speaker 1>but and they're all kind of boring. Basically, you can

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<v Speaker 1>choose to either learn how to day trade like do

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<v Speaker 1>stock trading, or learn how to sell cryptocurrency, or learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to run like a copyrighting mill where you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>paying people pennies to write like terrible, shitty fake books

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of Amazon's algorithm and trick people into

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<v Speaker 1>paying like two dollars for um. There's also a lot

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<v Speaker 1>the Amazon affiliate ship. A bunch of it involves taking

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of like the ways that Amazon works. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things if you watch YouTube and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have YouTube read or whatever the funk YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>calls their subscription service, which I don't because I'm lazy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you get all these like shady ads from people telling you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to teach you how to make a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money off of YouTube or off of Amazon, Like

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that you could get rich, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>creating Amazon affiliate links or with Audible or whatever. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all he's doing. But instead of selling it as like

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<v Speaker 1>the shady video just on how to make money using Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>he's giving you access to this community of of distinguished

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<v Speaker 1>men who all smoke cigars and post pictures of how

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<v Speaker 1>much money they're making. Um. And because all these other guys, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's taking a lot of these MLM tactics where

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<v Speaker 1>you're surrounding yourselves in this community of other men who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be bragging constantly that they're making money.

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<v Speaker 1>So you feel like, if I'm not making money, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not because this video is bullshit, it's because is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not hustling hard enough, I'm not taking advantage of all

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<v Speaker 1>of the great advice that I've gotten. Um, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty clever thing to do. Um. And he

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<v Speaker 1>does encourages people like post your sales, post which you're

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<v Speaker 1>making this month, and all of that's kind of gamed

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<v Speaker 1>and and a lot of it's very scammy in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that like a lot of MLM stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, yeah, just post your raw sales, don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell people what your netta is, don't tell people how

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<v Speaker 1>much money you had to put into the business to

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. All that good stuff and take again

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<v Speaker 1>is barely present on the actual Hustlers University discord. But

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<v Speaker 1>what he does do is when he launches this new

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<v Speaker 1>version of the service, he spins up his media appearances

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<v Speaker 1>and like all these different right wing podcasts and hustler

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<v Speaker 1>culture podcasts to push the push the store, and he

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<v Speaker 1>He also alters his branding at this point. Earlier he'd

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been indistinguishable from he'd been kind of at

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<v Speaker 1>the nexus of pickup artist and all right political weirdo,

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<v Speaker 1>but he increasingly pivots to positioning himself as kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like at jacked Rich Jordan Peterson, Um, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play you a video that gives you an example

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Let's quickly talk about like the red pill

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<v Speaker 1>to day game guys, and this is why they're wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what they don't understand. Listen to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll teach you how to get girls on Tinder,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll teach you how to go out and get

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<v Speaker 1>girls at the mall day. If you are walking around

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<v Speaker 1>the mall all day or you're tendering all day, you

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<v Speaker 1>are giving out attention and you're giving out more than

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<v Speaker 1>you'll ever get back. Because you're a man, You're giving

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<v Speaker 1>attention out and you don't get enough back. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>an energy decacit and zaps you love your powers before

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<v Speaker 1>you know where you're gonna end up one of them

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<v Speaker 1>little red pill doors. Sitting there with the madness. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on an alpha bro. You're five ft seven, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>fucking alpha. How are you an alpha and you're like

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<v Speaker 1>five ft alpha of wall walk into a fucking rude

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<v Speaker 1>basketball players multimillionaire six foot five and talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>alpha you are because of your YouTube chat. Fucking these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>even a dream. Alpha has always for the longest period

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<v Speaker 1>of human I meant capability for violence. That's what alpha

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<v Speaker 1>has always meant. Apex predator, a little short dude, Lulu Foo.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well of course you are. Let's let's just

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<v Speaker 1>let's not even let's meet, and let's not even talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's meet and let's just measure our heights. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a picture side by side of me and you, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about how alpha you are afterwards. Doors So

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving out energy, they don't get energy back. The

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<v Speaker 1>correct way to get pussy like I have is to

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<v Speaker 1>absorb the energy from everyone in the room and then

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<v Speaker 1>expel it in a fireball, a lightning strike of power

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<v Speaker 1>and prowess. So all the bitches what a fuck you?

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<v Speaker 1>And they pray You come and say hello. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you get bitches. You don't go and beg them and

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<v Speaker 1>give energy a way, No, you steal the energy from

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<v Speaker 1>every other male and then you expel it in a

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<v Speaker 1>ball of fucking lightning. What's happening? Find him? Sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>he's been watching a lot of dragons, Like what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is he talking behind someone's cleaning his house? But

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<v Speaker 1>why is she so close to him? Because he likes

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<v Speaker 1>to show you that, like that's a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>his He does this in all of his like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his videos. He'll make sure that like his

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning lady or one of his cam girls is like

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<v Speaker 1>doing a task behind him to like make the point

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<v Speaker 1>that he's got all these women working for him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's a huge part of the tape, myth um.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he's doing here in this video is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me. He's he's deliberately he's he's he's positioning himself

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<v Speaker 1>as the opposite of both these whiny men's rights activist

0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.920
<v Speaker 1>guys and of the standard pickup artist crew. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>all this talk about height, let's talk about alpha's. He

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<v Speaker 1>is playing two in cells because like he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>very young men, mostly in their late teens, who are

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<v Speaker 1>like angry about the fact that girls don't like them

0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.719
<v Speaker 1>and angry about the fact that like they're they're they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have all of the money and success. They think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're owed that like that's his that's his business, right,

0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.240
<v Speaker 1>that's his fucking bread and butter um. And is he

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<v Speaker 1>why is he choosing to like alienate all the short

0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.360
<v Speaker 1>people He's He's not, He's not. This is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>two part con And what he's what he's doing here

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<v Speaker 1>is he's getting them. So I was gonna say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of sounds like he's like dunking on exactly

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<v Speaker 1>who he like is targeting. But I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>like a little reverse. He is doing, yes, some some

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<v Speaker 1>negging and stuff right to get the to get these

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<v Speaker 1>guys riled up. But he's also so if you remember

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<v Speaker 1>back if I don't know if any of you read

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott Rogers manifesto Elliott Roger being the first in cell

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<v Speaker 1>mash shooter. Um, he he talks a lot, and he,

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<v Speaker 1>like the entire in cell community was formed initially as

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<v Speaker 1>a reaction to pick up artistry. Right, all of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys who uh feel like there's something inherently wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>their bodies that makes it impossible for them to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up women and in an unfair way, or that feminism

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<v Speaker 1>has ruined it Roger was obsessed that because he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like tall enough or white enough, right, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>never going to to to get a girl. Um. They

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<v Speaker 1>shelly when they were like younger, fell into pickup artistry

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<v Speaker 1>and when that didn't work because none of it works

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<v Speaker 1>very well, Uh, they became violent, psychopath Like they became violent, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they just they decided like not only was the

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<v Speaker 1>like pickup artistry a con but all of society deserved

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for the fact that they got conned by

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<v Speaker 1>pickup artists. Andrew recognizes this, and so the first thing

0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he's doing is he is going after the pickup artists, right,

0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's going after it in a way that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get all these in cel dudes like agitated, but

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<v Speaker 1>is also going to play to the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>realize they're being conned by these people. Um, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's an interesting choice. And the other thing that

0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.520
<v Speaker 1>he's doing, he starts by talking about how like you're

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<v Speaker 1>not alpha if you're not tall enough, right that all,

0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.520
<v Speaker 1>but but he's also framing it as like these pickup

0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>artists aren't real alpha's because they're not they're not big.

0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And it sounds at first like he's kind of going

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<v Speaker 1>into this, it's hopeless. If you're not tall, you'll never

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<v Speaker 1>get a woman. That's actually not the claim that he's making.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna you another clip that's kind of an extension

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<v Speaker 1>of his message that shows how he's talking to these

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<v Speaker 1>in cell folks after he gets through with the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of slamming the uh uh slamming the pickup artist crew,

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<v Speaker 1>and the message that he has for the actual people

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<v Speaker 1>being taken advantage of by the pickup artist community is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of liberatory in a weird way. Now, I am

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<v Speaker 1>genetic gifts. I understand you do not have, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've also worked on my genetic so I didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>have them. You know, I worked. But even if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you did the work I did, you'd still be

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<v Speaker 1>taught one percent even without the genetics, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea how hard I've worked. But the point is,

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<v Speaker 1>if I teach you how to absorb energy from everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else around you, then you instantly become the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>person in the room. So there's not only so much

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<v Speaker 1>about being big and being strong and having a lamb

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<v Speaker 1>boksbout absorbing energy and attention. So you people do not

0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.240
<v Speaker 1>understand and not inn percent of the things people teach you.

0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.000
<v Speaker 1>They teach you how to expel energy. You can expel

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<v Speaker 1>and lose huge amounts of energy, chasing bitches and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make money you don't get enough back, whereas if

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<v Speaker 1>you can flip the script, then the whole world changes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what you need to understand, so that there

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<v Speaker 1>He's insufferable, is it? But that's this is worth really

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<v Speaker 1>drilling into and paying attention to, because this is an

0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.280
<v Speaker 1>extremely appealing message to the kind of young men who

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<v Speaker 1>are like on the edge of where Elliott Roger was right,

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<v Speaker 1>these children and are these guys they're they're starting out

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Mostly we're talking young white teenagers or

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<v Speaker 1>not though not exclusively, but like men, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard out there. Obviously, it is still easier to be

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<v Speaker 1>a man or a white man, it is to be

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<v Speaker 1>basically anything else, but it's not as as much easier

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<v Speaker 1>as it used to write. And some of that's because

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<v Speaker 1>things are less unfair than they used to be in

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<v Speaker 1>some regards, and some of it's just because the economy

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten worse. The world has gotten harder. A number

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<v Speaker 1>of things, there's a lot of ships gotten uglier. Capitalism

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<v Speaker 1>has kind of gotten more undeniably brutal, even to the

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<v Speaker 1>chunk of people who were initially being uh lifted up

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<v Speaker 1>by it. Um. And so these kids get out there

0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.639
<v Speaker 1>and ship's not as easy. They're not getting handed the

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<v Speaker 1>things that they're supposed to get handed, and a lot

0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of them turn nihilistic. And the radical right has always

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<v Speaker 1>targeted men in this age group and socioeconomic group um.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are again young people who recognize and some

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're recognizing, like with Robert Blig's folks, is fair.

0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.119
<v Speaker 1>There's a degree a lot of atomization in our society.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not encouraged for men to have like intimate

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<v Speaker 1>friendships with other men. It's deeply lonely. Um, it's deeply

0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.320
<v Speaker 1>competitive in a way that's really vicious. And these people

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<v Speaker 1>are suffering, and the Right always has has made a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of their early recruitments by kind of coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and finding these men, trying to make sense of their

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<v Speaker 1>suffering and offering them an answer. Um. But while the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in cell youth culture that has been deeply

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<v Speaker 1>influential online is super nihilistic, Tate is reaching out to

0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.960
<v Speaker 1>these people, and he's preaching to these awkward nerdy kids

0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.720
<v Speaker 1>with social anxiety, but he's offering them a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>hope where he's like, yeah, you're not gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>me because you're not six three, if you're like five seven,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you put in the work I've put in,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still be in that top one per cent. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about taking an absorbing energy, and I have these tactics.

0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Your genetics are not the only thing that matters. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You can actually overcome that with enough work, um and

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to to to make money and get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, women, right, Like that is actually the pitch

0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that he's making, And for the people who are kind

0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of adjacent to these in cell communities, that's a more

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:41.000
<v Speaker 1>optimistic pitch than they've been getting from a lot of people. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you spend a lot of time on some of

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<v Speaker 1>these in cell boards, it's dudes obsessing with like oh,

0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.439
<v Speaker 1>because of the my chin is only this wide and

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<v Speaker 1>not this wide, so it's physically impossible for a woman

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<v Speaker 1>to love me, or like I have this like epicantic

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<v Speaker 1>I fold or whatever, Like my my nose is this

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<v Speaker 1>size and so I will never have sex, and like

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<v Speaker 1>the is a biological reality, and what Tate's actually saying

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<v Speaker 1>is the people telling you this are full of ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like, um, I have a tactic for how

0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you can and it just involves hard work. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter that you don't have these genetic gifts. You actually

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<v Speaker 1>can overcome that. And this is when you start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Tate on any kind of open forum, right, you're

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna get people coming in and saying some version of

0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.200
<v Speaker 1>He's the only reason I'm alive. He kept me from

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<v Speaker 1>killing myself for like I think he's he's talking And

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<v Speaker 1>this is because as toxic as he is, finding Andrew Tate,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are one of these young men who might

0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>have gone Elliott Roger might be better for you than

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<v Speaker 1>like falling down the rabbit hole you would have fallen

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:48.160
<v Speaker 1>down before him. That's not an necessarily an an accurate statement.

0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:53.320
<v Speaker 1>He tricks them into having hope. Yeah, exactly. And again

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<v Speaker 1>the point I'm making here, I am not saying that

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.560
<v Speaker 1>he is a net good. He's absolutely not. But when

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<v Speaker 1>people people who are specifically look like we're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in danger of falling into this in cell rabbit hole,

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<v Speaker 1>if they find Tate, that might be better for them

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>than the road they would have gone down. Now that's

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a small subset of the folks who are actually encountering

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.440
<v Speaker 1>his stuff. But when people make that point, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>there's not nothing there but and it's not because take

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.600
<v Speaker 1>cares about saving kids. It's because this is how to

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.600
<v Speaker 1>get money from them, right exactly. And it just speaks

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to again how exploited of the whole thing is, because

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you're already you're going after these people who are already

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<v Speaker 1>very clearly vulnerable and at a low point, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just praying on that and taking advantage of it. And

0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, yeah, it's just disgusting. It's all disgusting.

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But I also think it's really worth understanding the degree

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 1>to which he understands the online ecosystem he's feeding in, right,

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's why them that, you know, their greatest insecurities

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 1>don't matter as long as they're you know, they try

0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to be like him and be to man. Yeah, be

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<v Speaker 1>a top g yeah. Um. One of one of his

0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>big lines is you don't have to be handsome if

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<v Speaker 1>you're scary, which by which he means that like ugly

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.639
<v Speaker 1>dudes can get women if they're jacked, um, which is

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>again that's very bad. Although you could argue it's better

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.399
<v Speaker 1>than you should drive a car into a crowd because

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you'll never find love. Right, So this is why people

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.120
<v Speaker 1>make that argument. It's not It doesn't mean that he's

0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a net force for good because spoiler, he is not.

0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.239
<v Speaker 1>He's a terrible person and his overall impact is a

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Speaker 1>ton of harm. But on this specific community, there is

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.200
<v Speaker 1>an argument to be made, and that's where that argument

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.199
<v Speaker 1>comes from. Right. Um. Yeah, And again the idea that like,

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 1>he shouldn't be deplatformed because he's going to save all

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 1>these in cells is nonsense. Um, it's just not coming

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, right, because that is where his money

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.360
<v Speaker 1>comes from. Right, That's the the group of people he's

0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.399
<v Speaker 1>decided to take advantage of. And I do think in

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the long run he might wind up having just as

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 1>much of a negative effect on these kids as to

0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 1>pick up artists had on Elliott Roger. It just hasn't

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>been going on that on because eventually they're going to

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>see none of what he says works. Right, Like, in

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the long run, it's not going to work. It's just

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 1>in the short term less nihilistic than drive your car

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>into a crowd, although it might still end in the

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:18.160
<v Speaker 1>same place. But you know who won't tell kids two

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>oh boys. So if he just rolled ads, ah, we

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>are back. So Tate is kind of where while a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his pitch is laser targeted at young men

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.479
<v Speaker 1>going down that specific in cell rabbit hole, once he

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of captures that demographic again, he's he's an innovator.

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 1>He starts to broaden his appeal as fast as he

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<v Speaker 1>can because he wants to reach as many vulnerable young

0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.159
<v Speaker 1>men as he possibly can. And he's he is a

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>cognizant person of the time that he's in. He's he

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 1>recognizes there's a lot of movement and there's a lot

0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of cultural momentum behind certain left wing ideas, including criticisms

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 1>with capitalism. I actually think people don't recognize enough how

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>superficially critical of capitalism Andrew tatas and how much of

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>his appeal comes from that. And to kind of exhibit that,

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to play a clip from him on the

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<v Speaker 1>Fresh and Fit podcast, which he is sitting in between

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<v Speaker 1>like seven or eight women who look like they're all

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram kind of done up in influencer type people. Yeah,

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that's bullshit, that's slave mind garbage, feminist racist garbage. Crap

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>that's been putting in your brain that you need to resist.

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely nothing to do with Eurocentrists. It's bullshit, it's garbage facts.

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You need to resist that kind of ship. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you the problems with the world today are very, very specific,

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<v Speaker 1>and I state this without patronizing you. I don't want

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>to patronize you. I'm an old man, I've been around

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 1>the block. The problems in the world today exist because

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the people who are in charge of the world have

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>done a very very clever thing. They've specifically designed the

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.880
<v Speaker 1>world in which a way that the people at the bottom,

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 1>because we're all at the bottom, even me with all

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>my millions, right, the people at the bottom are so

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>busy fighting with each other that we never look up

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>and realize we're getting fucked. And the reason and the

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>reason they do that the blacks hate the whites, Republicans

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>take the Democrats, the men hate the women. Eurocentric He

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>said this, you don't have pay gop blah blah blah.

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It's all slave mind ship to keep us all fighting

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>amongst each other. Do you think when a billionaire who's

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>black meets a billionaire who's white, they talk about race? No, No,

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you think they can think a white do you think

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a female billionaire and a male billionaire meat, they start

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>talking about euro centric ism, feminist fucking garbage. No, stop

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>buying into that ship. It's a fucking trick. It's a

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking lie, all of it. Throw it away, Throw it

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the funk away. If you want to be attractive as

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 1>a female, you know what you need to do. You

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>need to go to the fucking jim just because just

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>because Myron said it, just because Myron said it. You

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>need to be smart enough. You need to be smart

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>enough to not let yourself get triggered by the fact

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>that he just said something you're not used to hearing.

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>That's all it is. That's all it is. So every

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>second of that it is, it is miserable. But he's again,

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that is a superficial kind of class analysis right where

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about billionaires all have solidarity with each other. Uh,

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we're all we're all poor. And he's again he's lying

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>about this. He is he is, He's a multimillionaire, possibly

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>multi hundreds of millions of dollars. But you see what

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>he's doing. He he recognizes everyone hates these billionaires. Everyone.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 1>You cannot ignore inequality and the role that it has

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>on Like why all these young men who are vulnerable

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>to my message is suffering, so I have to fucking

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 1>play to that, right, Um, And and again he is

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.959
<v Speaker 1>offering this kind of he starts with this thing that

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>has elements of left wing analysis to it, elements of like,

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, capitalism is a con game. The rich are

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a class, and they have solidarity with each other, and

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to keep you guys fighting so that you

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>don't organize a against them. There's pieces of less left

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:06.479
<v Speaker 1>wing analysis there. Um. But then take solution is not

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>dismantled the system. It's not go after these guys. It's

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>treat it like a trap you escape by getting rich

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and jacked. Right. That's the way that that's the way

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it is to say. Again, look back to Robert Bli

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>where he's he's very accurately stating, here are some fucked

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>up things capitalism is doing the men. Here are ways

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>in which capitalism and the patriarchy is harming men. The

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>solution is for men to like go out into the

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>woods and play drums and and learned how to hunt

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Uh not. The solution is for men and

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.199
<v Speaker 1>women to organize to make a more just society that

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't harm us in these ways. It takes doing a

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>version of the same thing, like BLI. He's he's diagnosing

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.959
<v Speaker 1>parts of the problem, and then the thing he's selling

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you is, here's how you personally can get out of

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>it by doing this thing that feeds money to me. Right,

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he's insufferable. He's insufferable, but it works, UM. And obviously

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>other people are pushing pieces of this message on young folks. UM,

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>but his presentation is the most polished he is not.

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>He is a good speaker, and I don't mean that

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>in the you should like the way he speaks. I

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>mean it. And he's effective at speaking and getting his

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>message across. Always the most obnoxious in the room, he's

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the ladest in the room, and you make sure that

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>he does. And if you watch him with these UM,

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 1>these young men, like these other male influencers on their podcasts,

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>he's so good at sucking energy from them, like he

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>actually does know how to do that. He's very good

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>at talk, not just not even talking over them, but

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>at making the focus of the conversation whatever he wants

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>it to be and making himself the person that people

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>are focusing on Um, that's the thing he knows how

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 1>to do. Uh. And it's it's it's it's yeah. And

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I think probably the smartest thing he's done in this

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>whole process is co opt the Matrix movies in his messaging.

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And that sounds very silly. The thing that Tate does

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>is he basically he positions the matrix is the normal

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>world where you like work for some company forty or

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>whatever hours a week just to scrape by and if

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you're lucky, maybe buy a house someday. Um. And the

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>thing that Andrew tells people is that, like, this is

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>what you have to break out of, right, Not not

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that like you have to make a more equable system,

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>but you have to escape the matrix, like Neo does.

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's just about freeing yourself. Um. And very it's

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>just about getting yourself. Yeah. And once he once he

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>gets kids to accept that idea, the thing he tells

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>them that they need to drop out of school and

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>spend the money they would spend on college on Hustler's university. Um.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>That is that is a massive part of his pitch.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And again it's it's not hard to see why this

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff is appealing to a lot of young kids. It's

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>married to some of the worst misogyny imaginable too, though.

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Um he tells young men that like, they should not

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>learn how to cook, that's a waste of time. They

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>should find a woman to cook for them. They should

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>focus on making money. Women shouldn't be allowed to leave

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the house. They shouldn't have friends of their own. This

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is all stuff that take preaches to alongside the stuff

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's less fucked up. Intate's ideology women being able to

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>have their own careers and lives is also part of

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the matrix, right. He starts from this reasonable position capitalism

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a con job, and then he pivots

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to telling kids that the real con is anything that

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>limits the ability of young men to do whatever they

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>want in any way. And I want to play you

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>now a video that he made to advertise Hustlers University.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Two point oh um, because it's it's uh something else.

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>You cannot stop, you cannot give up. You're in the

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.479
<v Speaker 1>most fantastic place on the planet for making money, Hustles University,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and the only person who could ruin that is you.

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Most of you are happy to be losers. Part time

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to escape. That's why you join. You don't

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be loser anymore. But then that new video

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>game comes out. I'll just play the video game. I'll

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>just be a loser for two more weeks. Then I'll

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>get back to trying to escape the matrix. It doesn't

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>work that way because you jump in it out of

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>complacency from I'm happy to be a loser and do

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>loser things too. I can't be a loser anymore. When

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>you're jumping it out, you never get momentum. You cannot quit,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you cannot give up. You need that momentum to break free.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>When a rocket is flying out towards the moon to

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>escape the atmosphere, it doesn't fucking pause halfway up the

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>sky doesn't know. It keeps going. Every single second you're

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>not in Hustas University, there are things happening, conversations happening

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that you're not watching. Information that could be the one

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>little piece of information you need to break out. It

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>could be that one little sentence that changes everything. You're

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>in Hustas University and you're gonna make money. But it

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>ain't easy. It ain't gonna be given to you on

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a plate. You're gonna have to work you're in competition

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>with the entire world. Everyone wants to escape. You cannot

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>be lazy. Okay, that's probably enough. The filming on this

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>is so weird, Like jumps back and forth between his cars.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>He's like clearly holding an empty mug too. I think

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>filmed in a way that like is meant that they

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>can cut it up for for TikTok more easily. Um.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You see this with like the liver King to a

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys will their longer YouTube videos will

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>have kind of a weird vibe because they're mainly filming

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it to cut it up for TikTok um. But you

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>see here he's like there's this fear of missing out.

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You're not doing enough. You've got to break like free.

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You're in competition with everybody else. Um. And it's it's

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because when he's when he's talking this stuff, Um,

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>it's extremely modern, and it's it's almost a political right,

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Like there was not a thing in that that is

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>like you could super define as like a particularly political rant.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Tate is a very political guy. And when he gets

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>into his opinions about like women shouldn't be allowed to

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>leave the house, you realize he's actually kind of like

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a traditionalist religious fundamentalists, which we will be building towards.

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>But he's smart enough that he doesn't get stuck in

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the traps that a lot of religious fundamentalists fall into

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to reach out to young men. He doesn't start

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>with any of that. It's stuff that kind of comes

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>out later in some of his other rants um and

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and he gets this there. There will be moments where

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you can he will make these arguments about stuff like

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>military service that actually wouldn't seem out of place if

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to some like left wing bread tuber going

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>on a rant. I want to play you this clip here,

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>because again, it shows how much he's kind of separated

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>himself from the traditional right wing grift sphere, or at

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>least the traditional conservative grift sphere. I think, I think

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you're a fool. You gonna go die for what, Biden?

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to protect American freedom. Yeah, you're gonna protect

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 1>the freedom of those people in Nebraska by going over

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to Yemen and balmbing some thirteen year old farmers. Great job, Stupid,

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>You may protecting nothing but profits for companies that don't

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>care about you. You You should only protect yourself and your boys.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought for myself. Again, the world champion got some money.

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>You never get any money. Your leg blown off, walk

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>around one leg? Mr Limpy, Mr Limpy g for what for?

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Biden doesn't care about you. Don't be stupid, don't be dumb.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm pure as much I'm joining us say that's a Again,

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>first of all, you should only protect your boys. Made

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>me audibly vomit, But that's how we work here at

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>cool Zone. No no, but just like him going like

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>firm anti military and anti Biden, like you're you're clearly

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you clearly know your audience. Yeah, it's these it's these

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>kids who grew up right after because like I mean,

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Ian and and Sophie and we all grew up kind

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of right in the wake of nine eleven and all

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of that, Like where the military was this like sacred,

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>uncriticizeable thing in mainstream American culture. That era is past,

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's i mean, obviously in the UK it was

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>always a bit different, but like that era is well

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>passed and you actually you can get I mean, Trump

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>did versions of this right when he would talk about

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>how you're like a loser if you get injured for

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>your country. It would always all these democrats who are

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>stuck in like two thousand six would always get like

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>this has to be the end for him. Look, he

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>he told people that like injured veterans or chumps, and

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, no, it doesn't matter, Um, they're perfect. People

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>are perfectly willing to say that they are chumps because

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>the this could like modern conservatism, the modern right is

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>so purely focused on the grift and on personally sucking

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>as much money out as you can from people around

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you that it doesn't matter. Tait realizes that there's no

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>need to be ashamed of this thing, and it can

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>draw in folks who are like open to listening to

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>these kind of left wing arguments. He starts to make

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>one there where he's like, all you're doing joining the

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>military is murdering kids and Yemen. You can find versions

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of that and like Marxist like influence and influencer YouTube brands,

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and it would be so curious to know like the

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>specific things that he uh watched and read where he's like, like,

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>what what specifically he learned? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah exactly. I think he spends a lot of

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>time and he says he spends all of his time

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>online like he's working on the time. I think a

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of I think a lot of it is he's

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to what's going viral whare and he's not

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>just paying attention to what goes viral on the right.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that happened when he got

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>arrested is you had all of these left wing weirdos online,

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>guys like Vosh is the one that I remember most

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>specifically being like, well, you know, Andrew Tate's bad, but

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the left needs someone like him who can speak to

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>young men in this way. And it's like, well, all

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>he's doing is he's he's using these he's using his bait,

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>little pieces of left wing social analysis and class analysis

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>in order to get people on the hook. And then

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to sell them on turning their fifteen year

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>old cousins into uber drivers. Like that. That is all

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>that is here. There's there's no need to replicate this.

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>He's not actually offering people anything. He's just the thing

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that he's promising them. Rather than like the grinding act

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>of trying to reform the world in a more just way,

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>he's promising them you can get a Lamborghini. Well, yes,

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that's always going to be a better pitch to a

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of people than if we all work hard and

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>fight like hell, we can make the world more just. Um,

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>but you can't. There's no like, there's no replicating what

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Tate's doing because the only thing he's promising is a

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>chance at like winning the lottery basically, right, Um, that's

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>not actually a thing you should shoot for. That's my

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>opinion here. Um. So all of the videos that I've

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>been playing for you, nearly all of them, um, come

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>from fans who will compile clips of his various interviews

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and podcast appearances and put them up on social media.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Since Tate has been banned for most platforms, this is

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the only way his content gets out. But more than that,

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>it's part of a cohesive media strategy. That's how he

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>became famous in the first place. Tate built his empire

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>knowing that this would happen. And I'm gonna quote from

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>The Guardian here. Since January, repackaged videos from interviews with

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Tate over the years have been attracting leans of views

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok, but in recent weeks this growth has accelerated.

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 1>In August so far alone, clips tagged with his name

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>have been watched more than a billion times. The posts

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>do not come from Tate himself, who does not appear

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to be active on the platform, but from hundreds of accounts,

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>often using his name and photo, run by his followers.

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Members of Hustlers University, members, including boys as young as thirteen,

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>are told they can earn up to ten thous dollars

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a month through lessons on crypto investing, drop shipping, and

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>by recruiting others to Tussler's University, earning a forty eight

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>percent commission for each person. They refer to have the

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>best chance of getting people to sign up. Their advised

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to stoke controversy to improve their chances of going viral

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and one guy at Hustler's University. Students are told that

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>attracting comments and controversy is the key to success. What

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you ideally want is a mix of sixty seventy fans

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and forty haters. You want arguments, you want war. And

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing he did that's brilliant um or

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>mid two there was this thing. Are all of these

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>left wing influencers and liberal influencers and media people found

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>out about Andrew Tate and for weeks you could not

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.439
<v Speaker 1>miss him. He was he was everywhere. All of these

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>mainstream media people like Pierce Morgan interviewed him. There were

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple others. Someone at CNN talked to him. I

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>think like there were all these and all of them

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>were condemning him. All of them were attacking him. A

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of them were making fun of him and trying

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to show him as a loser. All it did was

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>making millions of dollars. This is why when people were celebrating,

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like Greta dunking on him, I was like, guys, this

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>is how he got rich. Thankfully he happened to get

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>arrested after that, but like, this is how he got rich.

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>The only reason that we're doing these episodes now was

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>number one. I think the strategy, the whole sweep of

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>it is important. I wasn't willing to do something like

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>this until I thought there was a good chance he's

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>not getting out of fucking prison. Um. I mean, we'll see,

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>he might still come back to it, but I figured

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it was worth doing at this point. It's interesting that

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>like his reach where he was going on literally CNN,

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but also was doing like he did like an interview

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 1>on a Fit and Trim podcastcast, but also like he

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>did an entire interview on this like TikTok teen teen

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>show with Barstool Sports BFFs. They we'll have a clip

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>from that in a sense where it's like where it's

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and that's the thing, like everywhere, just unbelievable.

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have a TikTok and he's like the number

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>one guy on TikTok or was for quite a while. Um,

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's Uh, there's brilliance in that he this

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>was conscious. He didn't look into this. This didn't happen

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 1>by accident. He realized once he gets a hundred thousand

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>or so people, it's like, if you've got a hundred

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand people in your discord thing following you and you

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 1>can get them all posting. You get fifty six people

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a day posting clip mash ups of your interviews. Some

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of that's gonna go viral. It's gonna be and it's

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna go fucking and the algorithm will help carry you. Um.

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And again he part of this, he didn't come up

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>like this is part in part based on the fact

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that he pays attention to what's been happening. So we

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>notices Alex Jones has guys like Kanye on because he

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>knows that they're going to do provocative racist ship that

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the media will cover and that'll get his name trending.

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Even though he's not on social media. He observes this

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and then he goes more proactively after it. Right. Um,

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 1>what Tate's done is he's taken the logic and the

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>sense of personal investment that you get in a pyramid

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>scheme or an MLM, and he's given his followers a

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>vested financial interest in getting his content trending around the world.

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And this worked incredibly well. Um, the sudden rush of

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>attention tate stuff gotten twenty two drove tens of thousands

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of mostly very young men to Hustlers University and the

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>war Room, which is his even more exclusive discord that

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.479
<v Speaker 1>costs five thousand dollars a month or five thousand dollars

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>total to join. Now, both platforms have strict requirements for

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>their membership. If you pay five grand to join the

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>war Room, you're warned ahead of time that you could

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>be banned for any reason, uh costing you five grand

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>if you displease Andrew Tate. So you're going to be

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 1>invested in keeping him happy meanwhile actively evil. And one

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>of the things you told if you join Hustlers University,

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 1>he tells you, if you don't pay every month for this,

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it means you're not committed enough to succeed and are

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 1>definitely going to fail in life. I can remember him

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>doing like a call in show where like one guys like, yeah,

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I need to take a month off from

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>membership to buy my mom my birthday gift. And he's like, well,

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 1>if you weren't a failure, you would have made that

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>money already using the skills you'd learned here. Um. And

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>what they do if you if you miss a month

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of payments on Hustlers University, you're not You're not. You're not.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>You are siloed off to a separate discord where the

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>only thing posted in there is screen grabs of the

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>other members profits. Oh my god, they want you to

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>find a way to get the money exactly. Yeah. Um,

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to continue with a quote from that

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Guardian investigation We Can Do did an anonymous experiment with

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>a blank account set up for a teenage boy, and

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>we're quickly shown content of Tate after watching two of

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>his videos, we were recommended more, including clips of him

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 1>expressing misogynistic views. The next time the account was opened

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 1>to the first four posts were of Tap from four

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>different accounts. In one video, posted from an account with

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Tate's name and face, he describes a matter of factly,

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>how he expects his girlfriends to behave I inflict. I

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>expect absolute loyalty from my woman, he says. I ain't

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>having my chicks talking to other dudes, liking other dudes.

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 1>My chicks don't go to the club without me. They

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>are at home. This tactic has worked extremely well, and

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the way that social media functions has ensured that all

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the hate Tate receives does nothing but make his brand stronger.

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>In mid one, basically every liberal and left yeah, I

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 1>already talked about this, but yeah um. After he gets

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>kicked off of social media, subscriptions to Hustlers University only

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>increase um. Screenshots posted online showed that Hustlers University two

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>point oh had about twelve thousand subscribers in March of

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>two when kind of Everybody started attacking Andrew Tate. By

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>July it had seventy seven thousand subscribers, and at the

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.439
<v Speaker 1>start of August, there were a hundred and twenty nine

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand followers. By the end of August, he starts to

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>get even more media attention, and his affiliate program that

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:16.479
<v Speaker 1>incentivized subscribers gets discontinued um, which costs him a bunch

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>of people. So like near the end of that month,

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he goes down by like thod or so, but that's

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 1>a temporary loss, because by September he's back up to

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and sixty thousand subscribers UM. In October, BuzzFeed

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>observed more than two hundred and twenty one thousand users

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>in his discord server, which is Hustlers University two point

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:37.399
<v Speaker 1>oh um. Since all of those people were paying month,

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that means he was making eleven million dollars in October

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>alone just from his discord. Holy sh it, that's crazy.

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and yeah, and you know he's not paying taxes

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>on and he's already told you you shouldn't pay taxes

0:43:55.920 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>on your ship. Break the law right point now. I

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to see the way a lot

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of young men react to and imitate Tate, because it

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>could be easy to just miss him as just another

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>weirdo right wing guy. Online if you don't see that,

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna play you a clip. This is of

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>some kid I think they're eighteen. Uh, this is their

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>TikTok uh. Watch this. Pay attention to his mannerisms. You've

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>all seen enough Andrew Tate now to recognize Tate. They

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 1>will think that it's so hard to break the matrix.

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm here to tell you it's not. Like I

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>made my first million dollars last year, and in the

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>past twelve months, I was able to turn that one

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>million dollars into five point six million, eighteen years old.

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>By the way, and I'll tell you this right now.

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do this by listening to know brokey teachers

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>saying steady steady, steady steady for your degree. Fuck your degree.

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>It is not hard to create your dream life. Like,

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 1>once you make that first you are out. And if

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you follow the steps that I give you would actually

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>take action and make that first one under k and

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll blow it on a fucking penthouse or a lambo.

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>You will be out. So stop waiting and join us.

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>People think that it's so hard. So yeah, that's like

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>this is literally like clable. Yeah, yeah, it's right down

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to like the facial expressions and stuff, and he's and

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>even like he's doing kind of a weird like semi

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>British accent thing in there or somebody. I don't know,

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe the kid is British, but like every and he's

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>doing Like the term brokey is one that evolved within

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>the Tates hanture. Yeah, that's like the thing. By the way,

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 1>brokey is like that's what they tell you. Take people

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 1>tell you, like call your teachers that tell you, like

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the adults around you who tell you not to obsess

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 1>with Andrew Tates style hustlers, brokeys because they're not multimillionaires,

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>so they're losers. If you argue with these people online.

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>The question they're told to ask you was what color

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>is your Bugatti? Um, By the way, the color of

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Tates bugatti now is he doesn't have one because

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it's been confiscated by the Romanian government. But this again

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you see why this is like I mean, just for

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>a little to like personal context. When I was nineteen

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>eighteen nineteen, like I started working, and it sucks, like

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>working for minimum wage and trying to afford an apartment

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>was a lot easier fifteen sixteen years ago. When I

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>was doing it, but like it's still sucked ass. And

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I wanted more than anything was to

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>like figure out some job that would let me work

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 1>from home doing something that wasn't miserable, which is like

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>how I started my career in like tech journalism and ship,

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and like that was my my sole motivation was to

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>not have to spend forty sixty hours a week being

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>miserable in an office in like for someone else's profit.

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to have to do that. Um, And

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>like I get how powerful a motivator that is. And

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.319
<v Speaker 1>there's again this kid that we just saw, Like part

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of what he's saying is like these teachers who tell

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you to study for you degree, that's not going to

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>help you. And for a lot of people, he's right.

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I know a shipload of people who got to fun

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>in college degree and it did nothing but lock them

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 1>into debt. There's there's a reason why kids are vulnerable

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>to this ship, and it's because doing things the quote

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>unquote right way is often deeply unpleasant. Um, it's just

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>that all Andrew Tate's going to get you to do

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>is give him money. He's not going to teach you

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>how to escape this system because you can't escape it. Like,

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>even if you think that you've escaped it because you've

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>gotten a decent job, you're still latched to it one

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>way or the other. Like it is still dragging behind you,

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>which is why we need to kill it with a spear. Um.

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that's that's ads time for some ads. Ah,

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. So I'm like, good stuff. Not sure are

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you going to ask how we're feeling? How are you

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Feeling's everybody doing? Everybody happy? Sad and concerned for I'm

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>hearing happy. Um, that's good. Tell us more so. In

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the weeks before his arrest, Andrew was trending and what

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>is a legitimately fascinating direction. He announced at the start

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 1>of December of two that he had converted to Islam.

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Now there is a whole video. There's a number of them.

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>But I watched a whole video with him and some

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>like weirdo Muslim scholar. I don't know that this guy

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>is a It's unlike the one Islam network, which has

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>one point seven or four million subscribers, this video has

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>one point six million views. The guy is Mohammed hijab Uh.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's a good person. Um. And I'm

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 1>certainly not saying that he actually knows or actually is

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>as an expert on Islam. I don't know. I'm not

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>certainly either, but boy, this video is gross as shit. Um.

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>So he Tate starts by like saying that he had

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>converted to Islam because he decided it was the only

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>real religion, right, all of the other religions have been

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>cutted by the Matrix Center. Fake. Um. And he claimed

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he to be an atheist, but then he saw evil

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and that that convinced him of the existence of God.

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And then we get to my favorite part, which is

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that's entertaining in this video and not

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>deeply depressing angus time. You know, I've never been to

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like a music concert, and people ask me why. I

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>just look at it and I feel embarrassed. I look

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>at someone up on a stage dancing around, and I

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>look at hundreds of thousands of peasants in the crowd. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's embarrassing. I'm I feel cringe, just like

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.399
<v Speaker 1>secondhand embarrassment. When I see these festivals and everyone's losing

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>their mind or these music concerts, I genuinely feel embarrassed

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>for the people who go, because to me, that is

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a form of worship, Like you can listen to the

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>music at home for free, You're like, you don't have

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>to wait in that line and stand out in the cold.

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, perhaps it was a big extreme,

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>but I've always known that they're trying to give us

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>false idols to some degree. And when I speak to atheists,

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>atheists like, oh, I don't believe in God, but they

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>they've signed up so hard to the liberal woke agenda.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 1>There as religious as anybody, but they're just believing in

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the wrong things to believe. So I think that's interesting

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 1>because what clearly has happened here is that Andrew Tate

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 1>is a deeply malignant narcissist. And if you go to

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>a concert, part of like what people get out of

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a concert is losing themselves in a piece of another

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>person's creation. And that would mean that the focus is

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 1>not on Andrew Tate, and he's simply not only can

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>he not enjoy it, but it makes him sick to

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:29.400
<v Speaker 1>see other people be a focus of attention. Like live

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>music is one of the greatest things we have. This

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is the single best thing that our species has created like. Um,

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but Andrew, I do think it's funny. But if people

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>are looking at Dula, that means no one to Andrew Tate. Yes. Um. Also,

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely videos of him at concerts, but at least

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that's beautiful, it's very funny. It's also worth noting that

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Hate and Jeff Bezos are buddies in baldness and

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 1>not understanding the gift of songs. So that's that's what

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it's neat that they have that in common. They also

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.439
<v Speaker 1>both like we're really tight pants, which they also both

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 1>like to wear really tight pants. That is correct, although

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I I gotta say this, Uh, Jeff Bezos gave up

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 1>half of his fortune in the divorce, and I don't

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>think that Andrew Tate would have done that. So yeah,

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely not so Anyway, Tate was arrested right before the

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:35.240
<v Speaker 1>end of two alongside his brother Tristan and two Romanian women,

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 1>one of whom was a former Romanian police officer. Um.

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Some of the articles I found that are Romanian have

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 1>will say that the women were branded by him. Um.

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>This is not entirely accurate. They're saying this because of

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>like nexium, right, because the second season of The Keith

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Renierie Dot came out and those women had been branded.

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>The realities that they have Tate's girls tattoos, which we

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.720
<v Speaker 1>know exist. I've seen pictures of them on a number

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:02.280
<v Speaker 1>of different women, and that's weird, but that is not branding.

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>People get tattoos, people get tattoos with dudes names on them.

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:11.240
<v Speaker 1>That's not like, it's not branding and branding somebody dramatically. Yeah, again,

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy is deeply abusive, but he is not like that.

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen any evidence these literally branding women.

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They just got tattoos of his name, which is like weird,

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.399
<v Speaker 1>but not what Keith Reniery was having women do. Um.

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 1>It is too early for me to comment in much

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.279
<v Speaker 1>detail about the allegations against him. Um. We do know

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that at least two women I think it's up to

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>four now have accused one of the Tates, and we

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>don't actually know which of the Tates with physical and

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 1>sexual abuse. In addition, both Tates are accused along with

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>those women, of sexually trafficking a number of women for

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>their webcam business. We think he throws his brother under

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the bus to say of himself one million. I think

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance. I don't think Tristan would. Tristan

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I think is kind of not. Tristan is a giant

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>piece of ship, by the way, But like I think

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that Andrew would throw Tristan under the bus before Tristan

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>with row Andrew under the bus. Although I'm open to

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>being surprised. Here um for a little bit of context

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 1>on the crimes, I'm gonna quote from readers here. The

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism said the suspects

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>appear to have created an organized crime group with the

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>purpose of recruiting, housing, and exploiting women by forcing them

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to create pornographic content to be seen on specialized websites

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>for a cost. It claimed that the men recruited women

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>with the pretense of romance and the lover boy method

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 1>before being forced to perform in pornographic content under the

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>threat of violence. Instaget investigators are reported to believe one

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of the performers brought in forty five dollars a month

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 1>or forty pounds a month, but received no payment, and

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 1>while the women were kept under house arrest. Take claims

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the women kept of the fees earned and that most

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of the girls ended up being multimillionaires, and look, Tate

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>has his claim here that's important to note. But we

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>know that in his Hustler's University video he recommends getting

0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 1>people to work with you in a gig basis and

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>then lying to them about how much money they're making

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.919
<v Speaker 1>so you can take it. Also, I I think there's

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:07.879
<v Speaker 1>reason to believe the Romanian authorities on this one. UM. Now,

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the prosecution doesn't just have that, they have audio that

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:12.959
<v Speaker 1>likely some of it I think came from a wire tap.

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Some of it seems to have been recorded by one

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.799
<v Speaker 1>of his victims. UM. Some of this audio has been

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 1>leaked to apparently been leaked to local Romanian news sources.

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Most of the translations of that I found have been

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>from Romanians on edit on Reddit. I'm not going to

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>quote directly from it because I just am not certain

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:31.839
<v Speaker 1>about the providence of all of this yet. But some

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>credible Romanian news sources are reporting that, based on these

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 1>these leaked conversations that the prosecution has Tate openly discusses

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>using the women who worked for him to launder money

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and talks about the fact that he is committing crimes.

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.880
<v Speaker 1>He does this very openly. They have him recorded talking

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>about the laws that he's broken because as smart as

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he is in terms of how to like get himself

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:59.800
<v Speaker 1>going viral on TikTok, he's not comprehends. Again, like everything

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>ab out Andrew, he's not as good as he thinks

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>he is. Uh and in this case, it seems to

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 1>have bitten him in the ass. Um. Now, it is

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>worth noting that Tate's house had been rated like six

0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 1>months before his arrest, so he was aware that the

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>police were on him. It's kind of baffling to me

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that he did not, and it maybe it shows his

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 1>arrogance that he didn't try to flee the country with

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.440
<v Speaker 1>his assets or as much of them as possible. Um.

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>And instead he kind of seedd his fan base with

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>comments about the fact that he was likely to be

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 1>arrested or killed. This is sort of a John McAfee

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that's who he's copying from. Here. Um,

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 1>here's a clip from a fan video I found with

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 1>nearly seven hundred thousand views at the time of publication

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of this episode. This right here is one of my

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>audiobooks that I own. It made a Spanish for kids,

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even speak Spanish. Okay, guys, I paid dollars,

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:57.360
<v Speaker 1>he replied, the audio and I just uploaded the file

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>too audible. But what's amazing about that's and for each sale.

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 1>So again, part of why Andrew is because this is

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:10.800
<v Speaker 1>he He will tell you how to do a version

0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of this scam and sold a million other people. Part

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of why take gets away with what he's doing is

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>we have built a culture in which every single mass

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>media organ is largely supported by a variety of scams

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and cons designed to suck money from people and provide

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>them with nothing. Including That's how YouTube makes its money.

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 1>This is a huge amount of YouTube's advertising, like is

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 1>ship like this. That's why Andrew is able to maneuver

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and act is that our culture has created the space

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:43.240
<v Speaker 1>where it is all nothing but a series of cons

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 1>from the top to the bottom. Anyway, let's let's watch

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>this video now of him talking about how he's going

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to be murdered for cracking the matrix to All I'm

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to do is teach men to be strong. If

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 1>they decide to kill me on a long enough timeframe,

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be successful. But I can't. I don't

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.719
<v Speaker 1>want to live in fear because what did I say

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>in the earlier tenant, if I become a coward, I

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>will live in fear and it breeds an action is amazing.

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I want the world to know that absolutely never ever

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>kill myself under any circumstances. Ever, no matter what they say,

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I did not kill myself. I don't want to be

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>seen as a threat to have to die. I want

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to be seen as a positive. I'm gonna tell you

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>right now. Andrew absolutely would commit suicide if he thought

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>he was never going to get out of prison, just

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 1>like John McAfee did. Just like Look, narcissists do this

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>all the time. He's just hoping that he can rile

0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>people up, get folks angry, maybe inspire some violence on

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>his behalf. Again, this is a pretty This is part

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of the playbook where he's not being creative at all.

0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:53.800
<v Speaker 1>He's just doing a John McAfee, literally doing a McAfee. Yeah, now, true,

0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 1>toul and I hope he I hope he does the

0:57:55.440 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>full McAfee by the way, um um true to form.

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Immediately after his request, someone with access to his account

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>posted a link to Hustlers University three point oh, which

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>is the newest phase of his all. He had just

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 1>launched this before he got arrested. Now Hustlers University three

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 1>point oh lives at the link joined the real world

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:18.919
<v Speaker 1>dot com and on the website is a video made

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.800
<v Speaker 1>with clips from the Matrix and some other movies, alongside

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 1>clips of Tate and clips of other YouTube stars attacking

0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>him because he was like on Logan Paul Show. And

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>then when he got arrested, Logan Paul pretended that like

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>he hated him. All this good stuff above the video

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 1>is the text It's time to wake up Neo join

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>us a mass wealth escaped slavery Hustlers University. University. Hustlers

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>University want to learn about Hussel's University. There's a bunch

0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>of rooms to go into and those rooms have a

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 1>millionaire professors taught by a million that awesome questions. They

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<v Speaker 1>give you everything on a silver planet of my impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to not my moning if you follow up what they see.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only having contact with actual multimillionaires, being part of

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<v Speaker 1>a community of students helpeat back. It's a community people

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<v Speaker 1>that are there for you when you mad. For one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I've already made my money back after the first day.

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<v Speaker 1>I've made five K this month. If I'm just joining,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fucking crazy. I made four k in my first month.

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<v Speaker 1>I made two thousand bars in to two weeks. At fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I just made the bucket twens euse dollars and great,

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<v Speaker 1>so so fucking cheap all at all, I made about

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars. Like, let's to match my nine income.

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<v Speaker 1>I shadowed that by five times. That will add days

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<v Speaker 1>where I made two or three thousand dollars, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>like what I used to make in a month will

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<v Speaker 1>allow me. There are so many guys in this video. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>we probably saw like fucking close to a hundred of

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<v Speaker 1>them in that first series of just like different clips

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<v Speaker 1>of people talking about their experience with Hustlers University. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of people who have paid him money

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<v Speaker 1>directly and have joyed. All of these dudes are still

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<v Speaker 1>on Hustlers University. It is still functioning as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard, UM and presumably still deeply invested in

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<v Speaker 1>Tate's success. Like this is not a problem that's over, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is. You know, we don't we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the court case. Andrew and his brother basically have not

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<v Speaker 1>actually been formally charged yet. UM. As a publication of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode UM, or at least as of the recording

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<v Speaker 1>of it. They are on a thirty day hold too,

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<v Speaker 1>while the Romanian court kind of gets shipped in order

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<v Speaker 1>to see what they're actually going to charge them on.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of this is just that, like Andrew's obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>flight risky his whole videos about all the private jets

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<v Speaker 1>that he has access to. UM, so we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a chance Andrew has played his last cards,

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<v Speaker 1>although I think there's a chance he winds up getting

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<v Speaker 1>out and this has another ugly chapter UM. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a very good chance he's going to do serious prison time,

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<v Speaker 1>like ten plus years in Romania. UM. And however, Rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>his fan bases. Now, if he spends years in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that will dull his appeal. UM. For one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it will make him look like a loser. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the here and now, all we are all left with

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<v Speaker 1>the problem of all of these fucking people, these young minds,

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<v Speaker 1>these weirdos, these kids that he's influenced. Multiple schools, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in the United Kingdom, have had to hold classes and

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<v Speaker 1>seminars on de radicalizing teenage boys who fell through Andrew Tate.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna close this episode by reading a quote

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<v Speaker 1>from one of those articles in the Times of London.

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<v Speaker 1>His initial tract attraction to young people, said one teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>was often his advice around being confident and financially successful,

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<v Speaker 1>and from there he capitalizes on a post me to

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety with comments such as females don't have independent thought,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't come up with anything. They're just empty vessels

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for someone to install the pro gramming. J Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher in Dundee of five years, said the recent

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<v Speaker 1>interest in Tate had made boys more hostile. You used

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<v Speaker 1>to have to deal with sex as stuff, but now

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<v Speaker 1>it's explicitly connected to Andrew Tate. The boys do not

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<v Speaker 1>stop talking about him, she said. In one class she

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<v Speaker 1>reprimanded a fourteen year old You're just a woman, he responded.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan seven said, we've definitely gone backwards and it is worrying.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the fun place to end the the Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Tate cast the tape episodes. How are we? How are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing? Gang? That's just like I said before, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared because there's like hundreds of thousands of boys

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<v Speaker 1>and young men who think like this and like they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not They're not in jail, They're not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So like that this mindset and this ideology

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<v Speaker 1>is going to continue to be proliferated. And it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty it is terrifying, and it's it's worth noting again

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<v Speaker 1>people talking about, like what's the lution. Is throwing him

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<v Speaker 1>in prison the solution, and like, no, throwing him in

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<v Speaker 1>prison is a tourniquet. Maybe, um, I think it might

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<v Speaker 1>stop his ability to grow the way that he would

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<v Speaker 1>have grown if it hadn't. Um deep platforming was a

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<v Speaker 1>total failure in this, Like kicking him off of ship

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing but increase his reach and his profitability because

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<v Speaker 1>of the quote unquote controversy that got you. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing to blame here, there's a couple of things. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>the structure of social media is to blame the structure

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<v Speaker 1>of social media in order to stop and Andrew take

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<v Speaker 1>it's not getting better a to arresting these guys. It's

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<v Speaker 1>changing the structure of social media to not reward the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of conflicts that he deliberately incited. In order to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that like, if you do something super fucked

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<v Speaker 1>up and racist and people get angry about it it

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<v Speaker 1>increases your reach on every social media app that exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a huge part of the problem. Um. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why that will not change is fundamentally, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>all of these people make money, whether they're the good Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad elon Twitter Twitter, they all made their money

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<v Speaker 1>by making people fight, or by not making people fight,

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<v Speaker 1>but by sharing things that would make people angry so

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<v Speaker 1>that they would engage in fights. Um. That's a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of what Andrew Tate recognized. The other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>the entire structure of the system that we live under, rewards,

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<v Speaker 1>cons and grifts. It is all figure out what the latest.

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<v Speaker 1>As technology increases, there are more opportunities to run versions

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<v Speaker 1>of the same old MLM scam that will not be

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<v Speaker 1>recognized yet by the government as illegal. Right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>get in there as fast as you can, and you

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<v Speaker 1>make your money and then you fucking escape. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way. This is the fucking cryptocurrency thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This is all that n f T ship. It's this,

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<v Speaker 1>this the new scam that is really just the old

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<v Speaker 1>scam dressed up in enough of a code of paint

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody recognizes that like no, none of like the

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<v Speaker 1>law doesn't recognize it for a couple of years. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all Andrew has ever been doing. That's all he is

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<v Speaker 1>purporting to teach you, um. And he just was sloppy

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<v Speaker 1>enough with aspects of his life and that that he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to keep doing it long enough, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason he got caught is that he bragged

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<v Speaker 1>about breaking the laws in Romania and that they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to punish him. And also he was too good

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<v Speaker 1>at becoming famous. If he had stayed a few levels

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<v Speaker 1>lower than this, if he'd stayed at like that Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Jones level or whatever of of social media influence, even

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<v Speaker 1>he probably would have kept getting away with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was so big that it created such a fuss um,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Romanian government had to be like, well, look

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<v Speaker 1>now he's bragging about sex trafficking, and the euse angry

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<v Speaker 1>at us because we already have this problem. Let's destroy

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's life um in order to uh, because he

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<v Speaker 1>basically forced us to write. If he'd been a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit less of an idiot, a little bit more careful,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have gotten away with it for longer, and

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<v Speaker 1>the next one probably will um. Although maybe all of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys because their narcissists are unable to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>pull back from the ledge before they go over it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the optimistic thing. Maybe fundamentally, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy who can do in Andrew Tate is always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be so much of an egomaniac that they

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<v Speaker 1>can't stop themselves. I don't know. Yeah, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>way that he's reached his audience should be examined, and

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<v Speaker 1>that uh, it's it's truly terrifying. It's truly terrifying the

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<v Speaker 1>reach that as and that the Internet basically has rewarded

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<v Speaker 1>him for it. Um. I hope these days in jail

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time and fizzles out, But as we

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<v Speaker 1>can see, Andrew Tate clones will just keep popping up. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's a scary thing. Like somebody else who

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<v Speaker 1>can can just like study this model, find the holes

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<v Speaker 1>in it and patch it up and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your next Andrew Tate, you know, four point

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<v Speaker 1>oh or whatever. And that's what's scary about it is

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<v Speaker 1>as long as our current social media ecosystem, this and

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<v Speaker 1>and the way news is covered, you know, the as

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<v Speaker 1>long as that model exists, somebody is just gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>finding ways to exploit this and and do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, it's it's scary. It is scary. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's not scary, you're plug Dobles. That's you Ian.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you got uh m hmmm, Uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>You know you could you could start calling me top

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<v Speaker 1>G if you wanted to, Sophie. Do we think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good marketing term? Okay? Well what if I do

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<v Speaker 1>my Boston accent and I try to teach kids how

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<v Speaker 1>to how to make their twelve year old cousins illegally

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<v Speaker 1>labor for them without payment. I don't know, there might

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<v Speaker 1>be something more, Robert, Well, thank you, thank you, Ie,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for believing me. Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>join my discord for five let's see it? Alright? Alright, alright,

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