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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the podcast that I

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Speaker 1: just tried to introduce badly. Uh, and I then completely

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Speaker 1: forgot to start recording. Um. So I'm I'm I'm great. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm so good. Uh do we do we have a guest?

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the show? What's happening? I don't know, Sophie,

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Speaker 1: do we have a guest? Who? Who are we? What

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Speaker 1: do we do? Where are which is Behind the Bastards?

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Speaker 1: You're Robert Evans, I'm your I'm your overlord, Sophie Lichtman,

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Speaker 1: And our guest is Ian Johnson, our wonderful Hi. I hey, Sophie,

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Speaker 1: Ian Johnson, incredible editor, Sophie podcast and furor. Um, I've

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Speaker 1: done that and it's cringe every time. The last note

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Speaker 1: will not. Um. Well, you know we're talking about Andrew

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Speaker 1: em Marie Tate. Uh and boy, howdye m are we

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Speaker 1: talking about Andrew Marie Tate. We just finished talking about

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Speaker 1: Hustlers University. Uh. And we're about to get into Hustlers

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Speaker 1: University two point oh, because Andrew understands branding if nothing else.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So obviously, while this is going on

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Speaker 1: while he's launching this series of online classes and deliberately

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Speaker 1: courting controversy online by saying like funked up shit about

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Speaker 1: women to go viral. He's also constantly guesting on every

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Speaker 1: right wing podcast that will have him. Um and because

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Speaker 1: of the world is the way it is, info Wars

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Speaker 1: is the first place he's able to like really get

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Speaker 1: as he can, like everybody who gets their start out

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Speaker 1: info Wars, because it's a dead end. You want to

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Speaker 1: going to eventually be interviewed by like fucking Pierce Morgan

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Speaker 1: and ship um, but at first he he's reliant upon them.

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Speaker 1: And Alex Jones sees the potential in this guy and decides,

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Speaker 1: I want to try and make Andrew a part of

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Speaker 1: my business, which is the thing that that Alex does regularly.

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Speaker 1: And it leads us to this beautiful ad for the

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Speaker 1: supplement line that Alex made branded based on Andrew Tate. Um.

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Speaker 1: So here's an ad for Andrew Tate branded Info Wars supplements.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh this is this is a real treat

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Speaker 1: for everyone to get a job, the man to get

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Speaker 1: a job. They inflate the currency so nobody can exist

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Speaker 1: in any other way because it's too expensive. The parents

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Speaker 1: are not working all day to school and the Internet

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Speaker 1: and the matrix raise your children. Your children go to

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Speaker 1: school all day and be told things that you may

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Speaker 1: not want them to learn. Then they sit on the

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Speaker 1: Internet and read things and watch things you may not

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Speaker 1: want them to watch. You talked to him for ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, they go to bed.

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Speaker 1: You're fighting with your ten minutes against endless hours of

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Speaker 1: the most entertaining programming or the most forceful programming, And

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Speaker 1: school is forceful on the Internet's entertaining, convincing them of

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Speaker 1: ideas that you perhaps don't agree with. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: myself on YouTube. I've seen a guy in America driving

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Speaker 1: was like, where did you hear that? School? He's like,

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Speaker 1: why did the school tell you that that's not true?

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Speaker 1: And his own children are arguing with him because they

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Speaker 1: learned to in school. Have you ever tried to take

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Speaker 1: your children out of school? You'll get fined, You get

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Speaker 1: in trouble. Now your kids have to go to school.

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Speaker 1: You have to give your kids away to the school.

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Speaker 1: If you don't give your kids a way to the brainwashing,

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Speaker 1: you'll get in trouble. As an all starfighter, businessman, motivational speaking,

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Speaker 1: so fin I thought andrew something up. No, just leading

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Speaker 1: us in with like this mix of Christian conservative fearmongering

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Speaker 1: then we get Alex let's go. Speaker and philanthropist Andrew

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Speaker 1: Tate has truly earned the title of top G. But

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Speaker 1: there's another title Andrew Tate hold that has enraged the globalist.

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Speaker 1: He is consecutively the most googled man in the world

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Speaker 1: in the last two years, and that's because his message

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Speaker 1: is about human and specifically male empowerment. Now Andrew Tate

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Speaker 1: is taking his fight to empower and supercharge men to

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Speaker 1: by Andrew Tate and his crew. Now you have the

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Speaker 1: new supplements. They're the highest quality on the market. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a whole bunch of men in the world

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Speaker 1: people with no criminal record, dedicated athletes. Alright, that's probably enough.

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Speaker 1: No criminal record, Buddy scares in that video, So first amazing,

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Speaker 1: it's it's lawlessly third of Jake Paul's face. Yeah, did

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Speaker 1: other video we watched in the last episode was like

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Speaker 1: sheer per per. I don't even know those words, like

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Speaker 1: sheer perdacity or perspicacity. Yeah, perspicacity, those are like the

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Speaker 1: names of the supplements. And because he's trying to do

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Speaker 1: like a Mohammed Ali thing, right, Like Mohammed Ali would

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Speaker 1: every single thing he said about himself, um, which which

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Speaker 1: So one Andrew Tate's image is working very well. He

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Speaker 1: has become one of the most popular accounts on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, am, He's got a pretty prominent YouTube. He

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Speaker 1: And so he launches Hustlers University two point oh. So

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Speaker 1: he had been selling a bunch of different classes. He

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Speaker 1: And the gist is this for about fifty dollars a month,

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Speaker 1: get let into this discordse Sorry, for fifty dollars a month,

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Speaker 1: you get the classes for free, so um um. But

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Speaker 1: what about the fifty dollars a month? Well, sorry, you

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Speaker 1: don't get the classes for free. For fifty dollars a month,

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Speaker 1: he's what he is selling is I built this community

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Speaker 1: damn it, that's like kind of brilliant on two levels.

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Speaker 1: And I hate it for it because a subscription model

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Speaker 1: join Hustlers University. It's a little like a video games

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Speaker 1: choose to either learn how to day trade like do

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Speaker 1: creating Amazon affiliate links or with Audible or whatever. That's

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Speaker 1: an energy decacit and zaps you love your powers before

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Speaker 1: you know where you're gonna end up one of them

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Speaker 1: little red pill doors. Sitting there with the madness. You're

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Speaker 1: alpha you are because of your YouTube chat. Fucking these guys,

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Speaker 1: even a dream. Alpha has always for the longest period

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Speaker 1: of human I meant capability for violence. That's what alpha

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Speaker 1: let's talk about how alpha you are afterwards. Doors So

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Speaker 1: they're giving out energy, they don't get energy back. The

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Speaker 1: are back. So Tate is kind of where while a

428
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Speaker 1: lot of his pitch is laser targeted at young men

429
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 1: going down that specific in cell rabbit hole, once he

430
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: kind of captures that demographic again, he's he's an innovator.

431
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: He starts to broaden his appeal as fast as he

432
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: can because he wants to reach as many vulnerable young

433
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: men as he possibly can. And he's he is a

434
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: cognizant person of the time that he's in. He's he

435
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: recognizes there's a lot of movement and there's a lot

436
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Speaker 1: of cultural momentum behind certain left wing ideas, including criticisms

437
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: with capitalism. I actually think people don't recognize enough how

438
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: superficially critical of capitalism Andrew tatas and how much of

439
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: his appeal comes from that. And to kind of exhibit that,

440
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: I want to play a clip from him on the

441
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Fresh and Fit podcast, which he is sitting in between

442
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: like seven or eight women who look like they're all

443
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: Instagram kind of done up in influencer type people. Yeah,

444
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: that's bullshit, that's slave mind garbage, feminist racist garbage. Crap

445
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: that's been putting in your brain that you need to resist.

446
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing to do with Eurocentrists. It's bullshit, it's garbage facts.

447
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: You need to resist that kind of ship. I'm telling

448
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: you the problems with the world today are very, very specific,

449
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: and I state this without patronizing you. I don't want

450
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: to patronize you. I'm an old man, I've been around

451
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: the block. The problems in the world today exist because

452
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: the people who are in charge of the world have

453
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: done a very very clever thing. They've specifically designed the

454
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: world in which a way that the people at the bottom,

455
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: because we're all at the bottom, even me with all

456
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: my millions, right, the people at the bottom are so

457
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: busy fighting with each other that we never look up

458
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: and realize we're getting fucked. And the reason and the

459
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: reason they do that the blacks hate the whites, Republicans

460
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: take the Democrats, the men hate the women. Eurocentric He

461
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: said this, you don't have pay gop blah blah blah.

462
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: It's all slave mind ship to keep us all fighting

463
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: amongst each other. Do you think when a billionaire who's

464
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: black meets a billionaire who's white, they talk about race? No, No,

465
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: you think they can think a white do you think

466
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: a female billionaire and a male billionaire meat, they start

467
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: talking about euro centric ism, feminist fucking garbage. No, stop

468
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: buying into that ship. It's a fucking trick. It's a

469
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: fucking lie, all of it. Throw it away, Throw it

470
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: the funk away. If you want to be attractive as

471
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: a female, you know what you need to do. You

472
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: need to go to the fucking jim just because just

473
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: because Myron said it, just because Myron said it. You

474
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: need to be smart enough. You need to be smart

475
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: enough to not let yourself get triggered by the fact

476
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: that he just said something you're not used to hearing.

477
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: That's all it is. That's all it is. So every

478
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: second of that it is, it is miserable. But he's again,

479
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: that is a superficial kind of class analysis right where

480
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: he's talking about billionaires all have solidarity with each other. Uh,

481
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: we're all we're all poor. And he's again he's lying

482
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: about this. He is he is, He's a multimillionaire, possibly

483
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: multi hundreds of millions of dollars. But you see what

484
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: he's doing. He he recognizes everyone hates these billionaires. Everyone.

485
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: You cannot ignore inequality and the role that it has

486
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: on Like why all these young men who are vulnerable

487
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: to my message is suffering, so I have to fucking

488
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: play to that, right, Um, And and again he is

489
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: offering this kind of he starts with this thing that

490
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: has elements of left wing analysis to it, elements of like,

491
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, capitalism is a con game. The rich are

492
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Speaker 1: a class, and they have solidarity with each other, and

493
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep you guys fighting so that you

494
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: don't organize a against them. There's pieces of less left

495
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: wing analysis there. Um. But then take solution is not

496
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: dismantled the system. It's not go after these guys. It's

497
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: treat it like a trap you escape by getting rich

498
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: and jacked. Right. That's the way that that's the way

499
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: it is to say. Again, look back to Robert Bli

500
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: where he's he's very accurately stating, here are some fucked

501
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: up things capitalism is doing the men. Here are ways

502
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: in which capitalism and the patriarchy is harming men. The

503
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: solution is for men to like go out into the

504
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: woods and play drums and and learned how to hunt

505
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: and stuff. Uh not. The solution is for men and

506
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: women to organize to make a more just society that

507
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: doesn't harm us in these ways. It takes doing a

508
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: version of the same thing, like BLI. He's he's diagnosing

509
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 1: parts of the problem, and then the thing he's selling

510
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: you is, here's how you personally can get out of

511
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: it by doing this thing that feeds money to me. Right,

512
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: he's insufferable. He's insufferable, but it works, UM. And obviously

513
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: other people are pushing pieces of this message on young folks. UM,

514
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: but his presentation is the most polished he is not.

515
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: He is a good speaker, and I don't mean that

516
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: in the you should like the way he speaks. I

517
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: mean it. And he's effective at speaking and getting his

518
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: message across. Always the most obnoxious in the room, he's

519
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: the ladest in the room, and you make sure that

520
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: he does. And if you watch him with these UM,

521
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: these young men, like these other male influencers on their podcasts,

522
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: he's so good at sucking energy from them, like he

523
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: actually does know how to do that. He's very good

524
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: at talk, not just not even talking over them, but

525
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: at making the focus of the conversation whatever he wants

526
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: it to be and making himself the person that people

527
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: are focusing on Um, that's the thing he knows how

528
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: to do. Uh. And it's it's it's it's yeah. And

529
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: I think probably the smartest thing he's done in this

530
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: whole process is co opt the Matrix movies in his messaging.

531
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: And that sounds very silly. The thing that Tate does

532
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: is he basically he positions the matrix is the normal

533
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: world where you like work for some company forty or

534
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: whatever hours a week just to scrape by and if

535
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: you're lucky, maybe buy a house someday. Um. And the

536
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: thing that Andrew tells people is that, like, this is

537
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: what you have to break out of, right, Not not

538
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: that like you have to make a more equable system,

539
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: but you have to escape the matrix, like Neo does.

540
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: And it's just about freeing yourself. Um. And very it's

541
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: just about getting yourself. Yeah. And once he once he

542
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: gets kids to accept that idea, the thing he tells

543
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: them that they need to drop out of school and

544
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: spend the money they would spend on college on Hustler's university. Um.

545
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: That is that is a massive part of his pitch.

546
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: And again it's it's not hard to see why this

547
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: stuff is appealing to a lot of young kids. It's

548
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: married to some of the worst misogyny imaginable too, though.

549
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: Um he tells young men that like, they should not

550
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: learn how to cook, that's a waste of time. They

551
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: should find a woman to cook for them. They should

552
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: focus on making money. Women shouldn't be allowed to leave

553
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: the house. They shouldn't have friends of their own. This

554
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: is all stuff that take preaches to alongside the stuff

555
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: that's less fucked up. Intate's ideology women being able to

556
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: have their own careers and lives is also part of

557
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: the matrix, right. He starts from this reasonable position capitalism

558
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: is kind of a con job, and then he pivots

559
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: to telling kids that the real con is anything that

560
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: limits the ability of young men to do whatever they

561
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: want in any way. And I want to play you

562
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: now a video that he made to advertise Hustlers University.

563
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Two point oh um, because it's it's uh something else.

564
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: You cannot stop, you cannot give up. You're in the

565
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: most fantastic place on the planet for making money, Hustles University,

566
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: and the only person who could ruin that is you.

567
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Most of you are happy to be losers. Part time

568
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: you want to escape. That's why you join. You don't

569
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: want to be loser anymore. But then that new video

570
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: game comes out. I'll just play the video game. I'll

571
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: just be a loser for two more weeks. Then I'll

572
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: get back to trying to escape the matrix. It doesn't

573
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: work that way because you jump in it out of

574
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: complacency from I'm happy to be a loser and do

575
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: loser things too. I can't be a loser anymore. When

576
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: you're jumping it out, you never get momentum. You cannot quit,

577
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: you cannot give up. You need that momentum to break free.

578
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: When a rocket is flying out towards the moon to

579
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: escape the atmosphere, it doesn't fucking pause halfway up the

580
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: sky doesn't know. It keeps going. Every single second you're

581
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: not in Hustas University, there are things happening, conversations happening

582
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: that you're not watching. Information that could be the one

583
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: little piece of information you need to break out. It

584
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: could be that one little sentence that changes everything. You're

585
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: in Hustas University and you're gonna make money. But it

586
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: ain't easy. It ain't gonna be given to you on

587
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: a plate. You're gonna have to work you're in competition

588
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: with the entire world. Everyone wants to escape. You cannot

589
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: be lazy. Okay, that's probably enough. The filming on this

590
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: is so weird, Like jumps back and forth between his cars.

591
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: He's like clearly holding an empty mug too. I think

592
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: filmed in a way that like is meant that they

593
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: can cut it up for for TikTok more easily. Um.

594
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: You see this with like the liver King to a

595
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: lot of these guys will their longer YouTube videos will

596
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: have kind of a weird vibe because they're mainly filming

597
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: it to cut it up for TikTok um. But you

598
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: see here he's like there's this fear of missing out.

599
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: You're not doing enough. You've got to break like free.

600
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: You're in competition with everybody else. Um. And it's it's

601
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: it's interesting because when he's when he's talking this stuff, Um,

602
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: it's extremely modern, and it's it's almost a political right,

603
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Like there was not a thing in that that is

604
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: like you could super define as like a particularly political rant.

605
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: Tate is a very political guy. And when he gets

606
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: into his opinions about like women shouldn't be allowed to

607
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: leave the house, you realize he's actually kind of like

608
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: a traditionalist religious fundamentalists, which we will be building towards.

609
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: But he's smart enough that he doesn't get stuck in

610
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: the traps that a lot of religious fundamentalists fall into

611
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: trying to reach out to young men. He doesn't start

612
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: with any of that. It's stuff that kind of comes

613
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: out later in some of his other rants um and

614
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: and he gets this there. There will be moments where

615
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: you can he will make these arguments about stuff like

616
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: military service that actually wouldn't seem out of place if

617
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: you're listening to some like left wing bread tuber going

618
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: on a rant. I want to play you this clip here,

619
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: because again, it shows how much he's kind of separated

620
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: himself from the traditional right wing grift sphere, or at

621
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: least the traditional conservative grift sphere. I think, I think

622
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: you're a fool. You gonna go die for what, Biden?

623
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to protect American freedom. Yeah, you're gonna protect

624
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: the freedom of those people in Nebraska by going over

625
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: to Yemen and balmbing some thirteen year old farmers. Great job, Stupid,

626
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: You may protecting nothing but profits for companies that don't

627
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: care about you. You You should only protect yourself and your boys.

628
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: I thought for myself. Again, the world champion got some money.

629
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: You never get any money. Your leg blown off, walk

630
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: around one leg? Mr Limpy, Mr Limpy g for what for?

631
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: Biden doesn't care about you. Don't be stupid, don't be dumb.

632
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm pure as much I'm joining us say that's a Again,

633
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: first of all, you should only protect your boys. Made

634
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: me audibly vomit, But that's how we work here at

635
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: cool Zone. No no, but just like him going like

636
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: firm anti military and anti Biden, like you're you're clearly

637
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: you clearly know your audience. Yeah, it's these it's these

638
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: kids who grew up right after because like I mean,

639
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Speaker 1: Ian and and Sophie and we all grew up kind

640
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: of right in the wake of nine eleven and all

641
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: of that, Like where the military was this like sacred,

642
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: uncriticizeable thing in mainstream American culture. That era is past,

643
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: and it's i mean, obviously in the UK it was

644
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: always a bit different, but like that era is well

645
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: passed and you actually you can get I mean, Trump

646
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: did versions of this right when he would talk about

647
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: how you're like a loser if you get injured for

648
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: your country. It would always all these democrats who are

649
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: stuck in like two thousand six would always get like

650
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: this has to be the end for him. Look, he

651
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: he told people that like injured veterans or chumps, and

652
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: it's like, no, it doesn't matter, Um, they're perfect. People

653
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: are perfectly willing to say that they are chumps because

654
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: the this could like modern conservatism, the modern right is

655
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: so purely focused on the grift and on personally sucking

656
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: as much money out as you can from people around

657
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: you that it doesn't matter. Tait realizes that there's no

658
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: need to be ashamed of this thing, and it can

659
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: draw in folks who are like open to listening to

660
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: these kind of left wing arguments. He starts to make

661
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: one there where he's like, all you're doing joining the

662
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: military is murdering kids and Yemen. You can find versions

663
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: of that and like Marxist like influence and influencer YouTube brands,

664
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: and it would be so curious to know like the

665
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: specific things that he uh watched and read where he's like, like,

666
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: what what specifically he learned? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

667
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: it's yeah exactly. I think he spends a lot of

668
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: time and he says he spends all of his time

669
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: online like he's working on the time. I think a

670
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: lot of I think a lot of it is he's

671
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: paying attention to what's going viral whare and he's not

672
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: just paying attention to what goes viral on the right.

673
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: And one of the things that happened when he got

674
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: arrested is you had all of these left wing weirdos online,

675
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: guys like Vosh is the one that I remember most

676
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: specifically being like, well, you know, Andrew Tate's bad, but

677
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: the left needs someone like him who can speak to

678
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: young men in this way. And it's like, well, all

679
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: he's doing is he's he's using these he's using his bait,

680
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: little pieces of left wing social analysis and class analysis

681
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: in order to get people on the hook. And then

682
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: he's trying to sell them on turning their fifteen year

683
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: old cousins into uber drivers. Like that. That is all

684
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: that is here. There's there's no need to replicate this.

685
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: He's not actually offering people anything. He's just the thing

686
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: that he's promising them. Rather than like the grinding act

687
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: of trying to reform the world in a more just way,

688
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: he's promising them you can get a Lamborghini. Well, yes,

689
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: that's always going to be a better pitch to a

690
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: lot of people than if we all work hard and

691
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: fight like hell, we can make the world more just. Um,

692
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: but you can't. There's no like, there's no replicating what

693
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Tate's doing because the only thing he's promising is a

694
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: chance at like winning the lottery basically, right, Um, that's

695
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: not actually a thing you should shoot for. That's my

696
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: opinion here. Um. So all of the videos that I've

697
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: been playing for you, nearly all of them, um, come

698
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: from fans who will compile clips of his various interviews

699
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: and podcast appearances and put them up on social media.

700
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Since Tate has been banned for most platforms, this is

701
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: the only way his content gets out. But more than that,

702
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: it's part of a cohesive media strategy. That's how he

703
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: became famous in the first place. Tate built his empire

704
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: knowing that this would happen. And I'm gonna quote from

705
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: The Guardian here. Since January, repackaged videos from interviews with

706
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: Tate over the years have been attracting leans of views

707
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: on TikTok, but in recent weeks this growth has accelerated.

708
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: In August so far alone, clips tagged with his name

709
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: have been watched more than a billion times. The posts

710
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: do not come from Tate himself, who does not appear

711
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: to be active on the platform, but from hundreds of accounts,

712
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: often using his name and photo, run by his followers.

713
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: Members of Hustlers University, members, including boys as young as thirteen,

714
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: are told they can earn up to ten thous dollars

715
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: a month through lessons on crypto investing, drop shipping, and

716
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: by recruiting others to Tussler's University, earning a forty eight

717
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: percent commission for each person. They refer to have the

718
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: best chance of getting people to sign up. Their advised

719
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: to stoke controversy to improve their chances of going viral

720
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: and one guy at Hustler's University. Students are told that

721
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: attracting comments and controversy is the key to success. What

722
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: you ideally want is a mix of sixty seventy fans

723
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: and forty haters. You want arguments, you want war. And

724
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: this is the thing he did that's brilliant um or

725
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: mid two there was this thing. Are all of these

726
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: left wing influencers and liberal influencers and media people found

727
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: out about Andrew Tate and for weeks you could not

728
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: miss him. He was he was everywhere. All of these

729
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: mainstream media people like Pierce Morgan interviewed him. There were

730
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: a couple others. Someone at CNN talked to him. I

731
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: think like there were all these and all of them

732
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: were condemning him. All of them were attacking him. A

733
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: lot of them were making fun of him and trying

734
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: to show him as a loser. All it did was

735
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: making millions of dollars. This is why when people were celebrating,

736
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: like Greta dunking on him, I was like, guys, this

737
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: is how he got rich. Thankfully he happened to get

738
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: arrested after that, but like, this is how he got rich.

739
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: The only reason that we're doing these episodes now was

740
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: number one. I think the strategy, the whole sweep of

741
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: it is important. I wasn't willing to do something like

742
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: this until I thought there was a good chance he's

743
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: not getting out of fucking prison. Um. I mean, we'll see,

744
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: he might still come back to it, but I figured

745
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: it was worth doing at this point. It's interesting that

746
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: like his reach where he was going on literally CNN,

747
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: but also was doing like he did like an interview

748
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: on a Fit and Trim podcastcast, but also like he

749
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: did an entire interview on this like TikTok teen teen

750
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: show with Barstool Sports BFFs. They we'll have a clip

751
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: from that in a sense where it's like where it's

752
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: like yeah, and that's the thing, like everywhere, just unbelievable.

753
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a TikTok and he's like the number

754
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: one guy on TikTok or was for quite a while. Um,

755
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: and that's that's Uh, there's brilliance in that he this

756
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: was conscious. He didn't look into this. This didn't happen

757
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: by accident. He realized once he gets a hundred thousand

758
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: or so people, it's like, if you've got a hundred

759
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: thousand people in your discord thing following you and you

760
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: can get them all posting. You get fifty six people

761
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: a day posting clip mash ups of your interviews. Some

762
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: of that's gonna go viral. It's gonna be and it's

763
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna go fucking and the algorithm will help carry you. Um.

764
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: And again he part of this, he didn't come up

765
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: like this is part in part based on the fact

766
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: that he pays attention to what's been happening. So we

767
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: notices Alex Jones has guys like Kanye on because he

768
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: knows that they're going to do provocative racist ship that

769
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: the media will cover and that'll get his name trending.

770
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: Even though he's not on social media. He observes this

771
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: and then he goes more proactively after it. Right. Um,

772
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: what Tate's done is he's taken the logic and the

773
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: sense of personal investment that you get in a pyramid

774
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: scheme or an MLM, and he's given his followers a

775
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: vested financial interest in getting his content trending around the world.

776
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: And this worked incredibly well. Um, the sudden rush of

777
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: attention tate stuff gotten twenty two drove tens of thousands

778
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: of mostly very young men to Hustlers University and the

779
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: war Room, which is his even more exclusive discord that

780
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 1: costs five thousand dollars a month or five thousand dollars

781
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: total to join. Now, both platforms have strict requirements for

782
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: their membership. If you pay five grand to join the

783
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: war Room, you're warned ahead of time that you could

784
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: be banned for any reason, uh costing you five grand

785
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: if you displease Andrew Tate. So you're going to be

786
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: invested in keeping him happy meanwhile actively evil. And one

787
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: of the things you told if you join Hustlers University,

788
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: he tells you, if you don't pay every month for this,

789
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: it means you're not committed enough to succeed and are

790
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: definitely going to fail in life. I can remember him

791
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: doing like a call in show where like one guys like, yeah,

792
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: I think I need to take a month off from

793
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: membership to buy my mom my birthday gift. And he's like, well,

794
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: if you weren't a failure, you would have made that

795
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: money already using the skills you'd learned here. Um. And

796
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: what they do if you if you miss a month

797
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: of payments on Hustlers University, you're not You're not. You're not.

798
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: You are siloed off to a separate discord where the

799
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: only thing posted in there is screen grabs of the

800
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: other members profits. Oh my god, they want you to

801
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: find a way to get the money exactly. Yeah. Um,

802
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: And I'm going to continue with a quote from that

803
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: Guardian investigation We Can Do did an anonymous experiment with

804
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: a blank account set up for a teenage boy, and

805
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: we're quickly shown content of Tate after watching two of

806
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: his videos, we were recommended more, including clips of him

807
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: expressing misogynistic views. The next time the account was opened

808
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: to the first four posts were of Tap from four

809
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: different accounts. In one video, posted from an account with

810
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: Tate's name and face, he describes a matter of factly,

811
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: how he expects his girlfriends to behave I inflict. I

812
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: expect absolute loyalty from my woman, he says. I ain't

813
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: having my chicks talking to other dudes, liking other dudes.

814
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: My chicks don't go to the club without me. They

815
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: are at home. This tactic has worked extremely well, and

816
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: the way that social media functions has ensured that all

817
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: the hate Tate receives does nothing but make his brand stronger.

818
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: In mid one, basically every liberal and left yeah, I

819
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: already talked about this, but yeah um. After he gets

820
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: kicked off of social media, subscriptions to Hustlers University only

821
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: increase um. Screenshots posted online showed that Hustlers University two

822
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: point oh had about twelve thousand subscribers in March of

823
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: two when kind of Everybody started attacking Andrew Tate. By

824
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: July it had seventy seven thousand subscribers, and at the

825
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: start of August, there were a hundred and twenty nine

826
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: thousand followers. By the end of August, he starts to

827
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: get even more media attention, and his affiliate program that

828
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: incentivized subscribers gets discontinued um, which costs him a bunch

829
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: of people. So like near the end of that month,

830
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: he goes down by like thod or so, but that's

831
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: a temporary loss, because by September he's back up to

832
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty thousand subscribers UM. In October, BuzzFeed

833
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: observed more than two hundred and twenty one thousand users

834
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: in his discord server, which is Hustlers University two point

835
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: oh um. Since all of those people were paying month,

836
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: that means he was making eleven million dollars in October

837
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: alone just from his discord. Holy sh it, that's crazy.

838
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, and you know he's not paying taxes

839
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: on and he's already told you you shouldn't pay taxes

840
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: on your ship. Break the law right point now. I

841
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: I think it's important to see the way a lot

842
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: of young men react to and imitate Tate, because it

843
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: could be easy to just miss him as just another

844
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: weirdo right wing guy. Online if you don't see that,

845
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna play you a clip. This is of

846
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: some kid I think they're eighteen. Uh, this is their

847
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: TikTok uh. Watch this. Pay attention to his mannerisms. You've

848
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: all seen enough Andrew Tate now to recognize Tate. They

849
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: will think that it's so hard to break the matrix.

850
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: And I'm here to tell you it's not. Like I

851
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: made my first million dollars last year, and in the

852
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: past twelve months, I was able to turn that one

853
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: million dollars into five point six million, eighteen years old.

854
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: By the way, and I'll tell you this right now.

855
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: I didn't do this by listening to know brokey teachers

856
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: saying steady steady, steady steady for your degree. Fuck your degree.

857
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: It is not hard to create your dream life. Like,

858
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: once you make that first you are out. And if

859
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: you follow the steps that I give you would actually

860
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: take action and make that first one under k and

861
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: I'll blow it on a fucking penthouse or a lambo.

862
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: You will be out. So stop waiting and join us.

863
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: People think that it's so hard. So yeah, that's like

864
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: this is literally like clable. Yeah, yeah, it's right down

865
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: to like the facial expressions and stuff, and he's and

866
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: even like he's doing kind of a weird like semi

867
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: British accent thing in there or somebody. I don't know,

868
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: maybe the kid is British, but like every and he's

869
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: doing Like the term brokey is one that evolved within

870
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: the Tates hanture. Yeah, that's like the thing. By the way,

871
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: brokey is like that's what they tell you. Take people

872
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: tell you, like call your teachers that tell you, like

873
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: the adults around you who tell you not to obsess

874
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: with Andrew Tates style hustlers, brokeys because they're not multimillionaires,

875
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: so they're losers. If you argue with these people online.

876
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: The question they're told to ask you was what color

877
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: is your Bugatti? Um, By the way, the color of

878
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: Andrew Tates bugatti now is he doesn't have one because

879
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: it's been confiscated by the Romanian government. But this again

880
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: you see why this is like I mean, just for

881
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: a little to like personal context. When I was nineteen

882
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, like I started working, and it sucks, like

883
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: working for minimum wage and trying to afford an apartment

884
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: was a lot easier fifteen sixteen years ago. When I

885
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: was doing it, but like it's still sucked ass. And

886
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: the thing that I wanted more than anything was to

887
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: like figure out some job that would let me work

888
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: from home doing something that wasn't miserable, which is like

889
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: how I started my career in like tech journalism and ship,

890
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: and like that was my my sole motivation was to

891
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: not have to spend forty sixty hours a week being

892
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: miserable in an office in like for someone else's profit.

893
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to have to do that. Um, And

894
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: like I get how powerful a motivator that is. And

895
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: there's again this kid that we just saw, Like part

896
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: of what he's saying is like these teachers who tell

897
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: you to study for you degree, that's not going to

898
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: help you. And for a lot of people, he's right.

899
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I know a shipload of people who got to fun

900
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: in college degree and it did nothing but lock them

901
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: into debt. There's there's a reason why kids are vulnerable

902
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: to this ship, and it's because doing things the quote

903
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: unquote right way is often deeply unpleasant. Um, it's just

904
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: that all Andrew Tate's going to get you to do

905
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: is give him money. He's not going to teach you

906
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: how to escape this system because you can't escape it. Like,

907
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: even if you think that you've escaped it because you've

908
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: gotten a decent job, you're still latched to it one

909
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: way or the other. Like it is still dragging behind you,

910
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: which is why we need to kill it with a spear. Um.

911
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's that's ads time for some ads. Ah,

912
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: good stuff. So I'm like, good stuff. Not sure are

913
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: you going to ask how we're feeling? How are you

914
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: Feeling's everybody doing? Everybody happy? Sad and concerned for I'm

915
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: hearing happy. Um, that's good. Tell us more so. In

916
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: the weeks before his arrest, Andrew was trending and what

917
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: is a legitimately fascinating direction. He announced at the start

918
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: of December of two that he had converted to Islam.

919
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: Now there is a whole video. There's a number of them.

920
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: But I watched a whole video with him and some

921
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: like weirdo Muslim scholar. I don't know that this guy

922
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: is a It's unlike the one Islam network, which has

923
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: one point seven or four million subscribers, this video has

924
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: one point six million views. The guy is Mohammed hijab Uh.

925
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a good person. Um. And I'm

926
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: certainly not saying that he actually knows or actually is

927
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: as an expert on Islam. I don't know. I'm not

928
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: certainly either, but boy, this video is gross as shit. Um.

929
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: So he Tate starts by like saying that he had

930
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: converted to Islam because he decided it was the only

931
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: real religion, right, all of the other religions have been

932
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: cutted by the Matrix Center. Fake. Um. And he claimed

933
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: he to be an atheist, but then he saw evil

934
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: and that that convinced him of the existence of God.

935
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: And then we get to my favorite part, which is

936
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: the only thing that's entertaining in this video and not

937
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: deeply depressing angus time. You know, I've never been to

938
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: like a music concert, and people ask me why. I

939
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: just look at it and I feel embarrassed. I look

940
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: at someone up on a stage dancing around, and I

941
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: look at hundreds of thousands of peasants in the crowd. Yeah, yeah,

942
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's embarrassing. I'm I feel cringe, just like

943
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: secondhand embarrassment. When I see these festivals and everyone's losing

944
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: their mind or these music concerts, I genuinely feel embarrassed

945
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: for the people who go, because to me, that is

946
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: a form of worship, Like you can listen to the

947
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: music at home for free, You're like, you don't have

948
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: to wait in that line and stand out in the cold.

949
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, perhaps it was a big extreme,

950
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: but I've always known that they're trying to give us

951
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: false idols to some degree. And when I speak to atheists,

952
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: atheists like, oh, I don't believe in God, but they

953
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: they've signed up so hard to the liberal woke agenda.

954
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: There as religious as anybody, but they're just believing in

955
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: the wrong things to believe. So I think that's interesting

956
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: because what clearly has happened here is that Andrew Tate

957
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: is a deeply malignant narcissist. And if you go to

958
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: a concert, part of like what people get out of

959
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: a concert is losing themselves in a piece of another

960
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: person's creation. And that would mean that the focus is

961
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: not on Andrew Tate, and he's simply not only can

962
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: he not enjoy it, but it makes him sick to

963
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: see other people be a focus of attention. Like live

964
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: music is one of the greatest things we have. This

965
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: is the single best thing that our species has created like. Um,

966
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: but Andrew, I do think it's funny. But if people

967
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: are looking at Dula, that means no one to Andrew Tate. Yes. Um. Also,

968
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: there's definitely videos of him at concerts, but at least

969
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: that's beautiful, it's very funny. It's also worth noting that

970
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Hate and Jeff Bezos are buddies in baldness and

971
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: not understanding the gift of songs. So that's that's what

972
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: it's neat that they have that in common. They also

973
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: both like we're really tight pants, which they also both

974
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: like to wear really tight pants. That is correct, although

975
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: I I gotta say this, Uh, Jeff Bezos gave up

976
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: half of his fortune in the divorce, and I don't

977
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: think that Andrew Tate would have done that. So yeah,

978
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: definitely not so Anyway, Tate was arrested right before the

979
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: end of two alongside his brother Tristan and two Romanian women,

980
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: one of whom was a former Romanian police officer. Um.

981
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: Some of the articles I found that are Romanian have

982
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: will say that the women were branded by him. Um.

983
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: This is not entirely accurate. They're saying this because of

984
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: like nexium, right, because the second season of The Keith

985
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: Renierie Dot came out and those women had been branded.

986
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: The realities that they have Tate's girls tattoos, which we

987
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: know exist. I've seen pictures of them on a number

988
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: of different women, and that's weird, but that is not branding.

989
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: People get tattoos, people get tattoos with dudes names on them.

990
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: That's not like, it's not branding and branding somebody dramatically. Yeah, again,

991
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: the guy is deeply abusive, but he is not like that.

992
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: I have not seen any evidence these literally branding women.

993
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: They just got tattoos of his name, which is like weird,

994
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: but not what Keith Reniery was having women do. Um.

995
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: It is too early for me to comment in much

996
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: detail about the allegations against him. Um. We do know

997
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: that at least two women I think it's up to

998
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: four now have accused one of the Tates, and we

999
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: don't actually know which of the Tates with physical and

1000
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: sexual abuse. In addition, both Tates are accused along with

1001
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: those women, of sexually trafficking a number of women for

1002
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: their webcam business. We think he throws his brother under

1003
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: the bus to say of himself one million. I think

1004
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: there's a good chance. I don't think Tristan would. Tristan

1005
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: I think is kind of not. Tristan is a giant

1006
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: piece of ship, by the way, But like I think

1007
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: that Andrew would throw Tristan under the bus before Tristan

1008
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: with row Andrew under the bus. Although I'm open to

1009
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: being surprised. Here um for a little bit of context

1010
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: on the crimes, I'm gonna quote from readers here. The

1011
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism said the suspects

1012
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: appear to have created an organized crime group with the

1013
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: purpose of recruiting, housing, and exploiting women by forcing them

1014
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: to create pornographic content to be seen on specialized websites

1015
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: for a cost. It claimed that the men recruited women

1016
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: with the pretense of romance and the lover boy method

1017
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: before being forced to perform in pornographic content under the

1018
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: threat of violence. Instaget investigators are reported to believe one

1019
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: of the performers brought in forty five dollars a month

1020
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: or forty pounds a month, but received no payment, and

1021
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: while the women were kept under house arrest. Take claims

1022
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: the women kept of the fees earned and that most

1023
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: of the girls ended up being multimillionaires, and look, Tate

1024
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: has his claim here that's important to note. But we

1025
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: know that in his Hustler's University video he recommends getting

1026
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: people to work with you in a gig basis and

1027
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: then lying to them about how much money they're making

1028
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: so you can take it. Also, I I think there's

1029
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: reason to believe the Romanian authorities on this one. UM. Now,

1030
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: the prosecution doesn't just have that, they have audio that

1031
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 1: likely some of it I think came from a wire tap.

1032
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: Some of it seems to have been recorded by one

1033
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: of his victims. UM. Some of this audio has been

1034
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: leaked to apparently been leaked to local Romanian news sources.

1035
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: Most of the translations of that I found have been

1036
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: from Romanians on edit on Reddit. I'm not going to

1037
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: quote directly from it because I just am not certain

1038
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: about the providence of all of this yet. But some

1039
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: credible Romanian news sources are reporting that, based on these

1040
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: these leaked conversations that the prosecution has Tate openly discusses

1041
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: using the women who worked for him to launder money

1042
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: and talks about the fact that he is committing crimes.

1043
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: He does this very openly. They have him recorded talking

1044
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: about the laws that he's broken because as smart as

1045
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: he is in terms of how to like get himself

1046
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: going viral on TikTok, he's not comprehends. Again, like everything

1047
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: ab out Andrew, he's not as good as he thinks

1048
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: he is. Uh and in this case, it seems to

1049
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: have bitten him in the ass. Um. Now, it is

1050
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: worth noting that Tate's house had been rated like six

1051
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: months before his arrest, so he was aware that the

1052
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: police were on him. It's kind of baffling to me

1053
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: that he did not, and it maybe it shows his

1054
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: arrogance that he didn't try to flee the country with

1055
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: his assets or as much of them as possible. Um.

1056
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: And instead he kind of seedd his fan base with

1057
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: comments about the fact that he was likely to be

1058
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: arrested or killed. This is sort of a John McAfee

1059
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's who he's copying from. Here. Um,

1060
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: here's a clip from a fan video I found with

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Speaker 1: nearly seven hundred thousand views at the time of publication

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Speaker 1: of this episode. This right here is one of my

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Speaker 1: audiobooks that I own. It made a Spanish for kids,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even speak Spanish. Okay, guys, I paid dollars,

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Speaker 1: he replied, the audio and I just uploaded the file

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Speaker 1: too audible. But what's amazing about that's and for each sale.

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Speaker 1: So again, part of why Andrew is because this is

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Speaker 1: he He will tell you how to do a version

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Speaker 1: of this scam and sold a million other people. Part

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Speaker 1: of why take gets away with what he's doing is

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Speaker 1: we have built a culture in which every single mass

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Speaker 1: media organ is largely supported by a variety of scams

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Speaker 1: and cons designed to suck money from people and provide

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Speaker 1: them with nothing. Including That's how YouTube makes its money.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge amount of YouTube's advertising, like is

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Speaker 1: ship like this. That's why Andrew is able to maneuver

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Speaker 1: and act is that our culture has created the space

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Speaker 1: where it is all nothing but a series of cons

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Speaker 1: from the top to the bottom. Anyway, let's let's watch

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Speaker 1: this video now of him talking about how he's going

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Speaker 1: to be murdered for cracking the matrix to All I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to do is teach men to be strong. If

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Speaker 1: they decide to kill me on a long enough timeframe,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be successful. But I can't. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to live in fear because what did I say

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: in the earlier tenant, if I become a coward, I

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00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: will live in fear and it breeds an action is amazing.

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Speaker 1: I want the world to know that absolutely never ever

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Speaker 1: kill myself under any circumstances. Ever, no matter what they say,

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Speaker 1: I did not kill myself. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: seen as a threat to have to die. I want

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Speaker 1: to be seen as a positive. I'm gonna tell you

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00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: right now. Andrew absolutely would commit suicide if he thought

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Speaker 1: he was never going to get out of prison, just

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00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: like John McAfee did. Just like Look, narcissists do this

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Speaker 1: all the time. He's just hoping that he can rile

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Speaker 1: people up, get folks angry, maybe inspire some violence on

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Speaker 1: his behalf. Again, this is a pretty This is part

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Speaker 1: of the playbook where he's not being creative at all.

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Speaker 1: He's just doing a John McAfee, literally doing a McAfee. Yeah, now, true,

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Speaker 1: toul and I hope he I hope he does the

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Speaker 1: full McAfee by the way, um um true to form.

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Speaker 1: Immediately after his request, someone with access to his account

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Speaker 1: posted a link to Hustlers University three point oh, which

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Speaker 1: is the newest phase of his all. He had just

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Speaker 1: launched this before he got arrested. Now Hustlers University three

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Speaker 1: point oh lives at the link joined the real world

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Speaker 1: dot com and on the website is a video made

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Speaker 1: with clips from the Matrix and some other movies, alongside

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Speaker 1: clips of Tate and clips of other YouTube stars attacking

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Speaker 1: him because he was like on Logan Paul Show. And

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Speaker 1: then when he got arrested, Logan Paul pretended that like

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Speaker 1: he hated him. All this good stuff above the video

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Speaker 1: is the text It's time to wake up Neo join

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Speaker 1: us a mass wealth escaped slavery Hustlers University. University. Hustlers

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Speaker 1: University want to learn about Hussel's University. There's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of rooms to go into and those rooms have a

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Speaker 1: millionaire professors taught by a million that awesome questions. They

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Speaker 1: give you everything on a silver planet of my impossible

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Speaker 1: to not my moning if you follow up what they see.

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Speaker 1: Not only having contact with actual multimillionaires, being part of

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Speaker 1: a community of students helpeat back. It's a community people

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Speaker 1: that are there for you when you mad. For one thing,

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Speaker 1: I've already made my money back after the first day.

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Speaker 1: I've made five K this month. If I'm just joining,

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Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy. I made four k in my first month.

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Speaker 1: I made two thousand bars in to two weeks. At fifteen,

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Speaker 1: I just made the bucket twens euse dollars and great,

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Speaker 1: so so fucking cheap all at all, I made about

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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars. Like, let's to match my nine income.

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Speaker 1: I shadowed that by five times. That will add days

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Speaker 1: where I made two or three thousand dollars, And that's

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Speaker 1: like what I used to make in a month will

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Speaker 1: allow me. There are so many guys in this video. UM,

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Speaker 1: we probably saw like fucking close to a hundred of

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Speaker 1: them in that first series of just like different clips

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Speaker 1: of people talking about their experience with Hustlers University. Again,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people who have paid him money

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Speaker 1: directly and have joyed. All of these dudes are still

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Speaker 1: on Hustlers University. It is still functioning as far as

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Speaker 1: I have heard, UM and presumably still deeply invested in

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Speaker 1: Tate's success. Like this is not a problem that's over, um,

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: and it is. You know, we don't we don't know

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Speaker 1: the court case. Andrew and his brother basically have not

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: actually been formally charged yet. UM. As a publication of

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Speaker 1: this episode UM, or at least as of the recording

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Speaker 1: of it. They are on a thirty day hold too,

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Speaker 1: while the Romanian court kind of gets shipped in order

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: to see what they're actually going to charge them on.

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Speaker 1: Some of this is just that, like Andrew's obviously a

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Speaker 1: flight risky his whole videos about all the private jets

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Speaker 1: that he has access to. UM, so we'll see. I

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01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: think there's a chance Andrew has played his last cards,

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Speaker 1: although I think there's a chance he winds up getting

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Speaker 1: out and this has another ugly chapter UM. But there's

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Speaker 1: a very good chance he's going to do serious prison time,

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Speaker 1: like ten plus years in Romania. UM. And however, Rabbit

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Speaker 1: his fan bases. Now, if he spends years in prison,

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Speaker 1: I think that will dull his appeal. UM. For one thing,

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Speaker 1: it will make him look like a loser. But in

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Speaker 1: the here and now, all we are all left with

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Speaker 1: the problem of all of these fucking people, these young minds,

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Speaker 1: these weirdos, these kids that he's influenced. Multiple schools, particularly

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Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom, have had to hold classes and

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Speaker 1: seminars on de radicalizing teenage boys who fell through Andrew Tate.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna close this episode by reading a quote

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Speaker 1: from one of those articles in the Times of London.

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Speaker 1: His initial tract attraction to young people, said one teacher,

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Speaker 1: was often his advice around being confident and financially successful,

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Speaker 1: and from there he capitalizes on a post me to

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Speaker 1: anxiety with comments such as females don't have independent thought,

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Speaker 1: they don't come up with anything. They're just empty vessels

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: waiting for someone to install the pro gramming. J Jordan,

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Speaker 1: a teacher in Dundee of five years, said the recent

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Speaker 1: interest in Tate had made boys more hostile. You used

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Speaker 1: to have to deal with sex as stuff, but now

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Speaker 1: it's explicitly connected to Andrew Tate. The boys do not

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Speaker 1: stop talking about him, she said. In one class she

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01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: reprimanded a fourteen year old You're just a woman, he responded.

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Speaker 1: Jordan seven said, we've definitely gone backwards and it is worrying.

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Speaker 1: And that's the fun place to end the the Andrew

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Speaker 1: Tate cast the tape episodes. How are we? How are

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Speaker 1: we doing? Gang? That's just like I said before, it's

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Speaker 1: I'm scared because there's like hundreds of thousands of boys

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Speaker 1: and young men who think like this and like they're

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Speaker 1: they're not They're not in jail, They're not going anywhere,

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Speaker 1: you know. So like that this mindset and this ideology

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Speaker 1: is going to continue to be proliferated. And it's it's

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Speaker 1: pretty it is terrifying, and it's it's worth noting again

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Speaker 1: people talking about, like what's the lution. Is throwing him

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Speaker 1: in prison the solution, and like, no, throwing him in

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Speaker 1: prison is a tourniquet. Maybe, um, I think it might

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Speaker 1: stop his ability to grow the way that he would

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Speaker 1: have grown if it hadn't. Um deep platforming was a

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Speaker 1: total failure in this, Like kicking him off of ship

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Speaker 1: did nothing but increase his reach and his profitability because

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Speaker 1: of the quote unquote controversy that got you. And the

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Speaker 1: thing to blame here, there's a couple of things. Number one,

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Speaker 1: the structure of social media is to blame the structure

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Speaker 1: of social media in order to stop and Andrew take

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Speaker 1: it's not getting better a to arresting these guys. It's

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Speaker 1: changing the structure of social media to not reward the

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Speaker 1: kind of conflicts that he deliberately incited. In order to

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Speaker 1: the fact that like, if you do something super fucked

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Speaker 1: up and racist and people get angry about it it

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Speaker 1: increases your reach on every social media app that exists.

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Speaker 1: Is a huge part of the problem. Um. And the

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Speaker 1: reason why that will not change is fundamentally, that's how

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Speaker 1: all of these people make money, whether they're the good Twitter,

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01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: the bad elon Twitter Twitter, they all made their money

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Speaker 1: by making people fight, or by not making people fight,

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01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: but by sharing things that would make people angry so

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Speaker 1: that they would engage in fights. Um. That's a big

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Speaker 1: part of what Andrew Tate recognized. The other thing is

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Speaker 1: the entire structure of the system that we live under, rewards,

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Speaker 1: cons and grifts. It is all figure out what the latest.

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Speaker 1: As technology increases, there are more opportunities to run versions

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Speaker 1: of the same old MLM scam that will not be

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Speaker 1: recognized yet by the government as illegal. Right, So you

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01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: get in there as fast as you can, and you

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Speaker 1: make your money and then you fucking escape. Um. And

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Speaker 1: this is the way. This is the fucking cryptocurrency thing, right,

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Speaker 1: This is all that n f T ship. It's this,

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Speaker 1: this the new scam that is really just the old

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Speaker 1: scam dressed up in enough of a code of paint

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Speaker 1: that nobody recognizes that like no, none of like the

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Speaker 1: law doesn't recognize it for a couple of years. That's

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Speaker 1: all Andrew has ever been doing. That's all he is

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Speaker 1: purporting to teach you, um. And he just was sloppy

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Speaker 1: enough with aspects of his life and that that he

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to keep doing it long enough, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: the only reason he got caught is that he bragged

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Speaker 1: about breaking the laws in Romania and that they weren't

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Speaker 1: going to punish him. And also he was too good

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Speaker 1: at becoming famous. If he had stayed a few levels

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Speaker 1: lower than this, if he'd stayed at like that Alex

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Speaker 1: Jones level or whatever of of social media influence, even

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Speaker 1: he probably would have kept getting away with it. But

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Speaker 1: he was so big that it created such a fuss um,

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Speaker 1: and the Romanian government had to be like, well, look

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01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: now he's bragging about sex trafficking, and the euse angry

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01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: at us because we already have this problem. Let's destroy

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01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: this guy's life um in order to uh, because he

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: basically forced us to write. If he'd been a little

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Speaker 1: bit less of an idiot, a little bit more careful,

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Speaker 1: he would have gotten away with it for longer, and

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01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: the next one probably will um. Although maybe all of

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: these guys because their narcissists are unable to kind of

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01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: pull back from the ledge before they go over it.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the optimistic thing. Maybe fundamentally, the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy who can do in Andrew Tate is always

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Speaker 1: going to be so much of an egomaniac that they

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Speaker 1: can't stop themselves. I don't know. Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 1: way that he's reached his audience should be examined, and

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Speaker 1: that uh, it's it's truly terrifying. It's truly terrifying the

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01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: reach that as and that the Internet basically has rewarded

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Speaker 1: him for it. Um. I hope these days in jail

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Speaker 1: for a long time and fizzles out, But as we

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Speaker 1: can see, Andrew Tate clones will just keep popping up. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's a scary thing. Like somebody else who

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Speaker 1: can can just like study this model, find the holes

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Speaker 1: in it and patch it up and then you know,

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Speaker 1: you got your next Andrew Tate, you know, four point

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Speaker 1: oh or whatever. And that's what's scary about it is

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Speaker 1: as long as our current social media ecosystem, this and

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Speaker 1: and the way news is covered, you know, the as

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Speaker 1: long as that model exists, somebody is just gonna keep

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Speaker 1: finding ways to exploit this and and do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, it's it's scary. It is scary. But

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Speaker 1: you know what's not scary, you're plug Dobles. That's you Ian.

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Speaker 1: What do you got uh m hmmm, Uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would just say, um, I don't know. Yeah, cool Zone Media,

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Speaker 1: great team, great great people, great podcasts, and um oh tennis,

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Speaker 1: I'll plug tennis. I'm really into I'm just starting um

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Speaker 1: to play and I'm excited to get out there and

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Speaker 1: get better. Australian Open is going on right now, so

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Speaker 1: it's a good time. Yeah, I would like to plug that.

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Speaker 1: Live music is beautiful and uh Andretete can go fucking

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Speaker 1: self atqual Zone Media and all the things Robert youo

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Speaker 1: many things specifically you would like to plug. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a book called After the Revolution. If you

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Speaker 1: just google a k Press After the Revolution, you can

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Speaker 1: find it and buy a physical copy. Uh. You can

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Speaker 1: also just go to a t r book dot com

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Speaker 1: and find the e book for free, or just listen

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Speaker 1: to the podcast of the same name, so check that out.

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Speaker 1: I have a sub stack it's shatter Zone. Uh. Just

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Speaker 1: google shatter Zone sub stack and you'll find that I'll

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Speaker 1: get another thing up there soon anyway, that's me. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know you could you could start calling me top

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Speaker 1: G if you wanted to, Sophie. Do we think that's

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Speaker 1: a good marketing term? Okay? Well what if I do

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Speaker 1: my Boston accent and I try to teach kids how

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Speaker 1: to how to make their twelve year old cousins illegally

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Speaker 1: labor for them without payment. I don't know, there might

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Speaker 1: be something more, Robert, Well, thank you, thank you, Ie,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for believing me. Would you like to

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Speaker 1: join my discord for five let's see it? Alright? Alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: well everybody, I've got a new con to get off to. Um.

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Speaker 1: So everybody have a great day, um and feel better

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Speaker 1: than you feel listening to this episode. Bye Behind the

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Speaker 1: Bastards is a production of cool Zone Media. For more

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Speaker 1: from cool Zone Media, visit our website cool zone media

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Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.