WEBVTT - A Very Impressive Stash

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Gatty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>We've heard from the foreign ministries of many of the

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<v Speaker 2>Gulf states who have come out and condemned Iran for

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<v Speaker 2>targeting Kuwaiti airspace, the US airbases that are on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground in Kuwait, causing Kuwaiti sirens to blare here overnight,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as the interceptors to be put in motion

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<v Speaker 2>in order to neutralize that threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Arab states have condemned Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet they're feeling the rough side of the tongue

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<v Speaker 3>of the leaders who.

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<v Speaker 1>Have condemned what they've done.

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<v Speaker 3>So first we'll update you on what happened overnight since

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<v Speaker 3>last you checked in on the war with Ran, there

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<v Speaker 3>was quite a bit and then where we are now

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<v Speaker 3>at the sanctions, which is pretty darned interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's tre Yanksta Fox.

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<v Speaker 4>A significant development overnight as Iran launched drones toward a

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<v Speaker 4>commercial vessel attempting to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.

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<v Speaker 4>Sentcom says at least five one way attack drones were

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<v Speaker 4>launched toward the vessel and intercepted. We know that a

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<v Speaker 4>strike was also conducted against a control station near the

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<v Speaker 4>city of Bundar Abbas that was about to launch a

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<v Speaker 4>six drone. In response to the Iranians launched a drone

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<v Speaker 4>and ballistic missile attack against Kuwait, targeting a US based there.

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<v Speaker 4>According to Iran's IRGC, the Kuwaitis confirmed an attack on

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<v Speaker 4>their territory that triggered sirens and alerts. Just two hours ago,

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<v Speaker 4>the Israelis conducted a targeted assassination against the Lebanese capital

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<v Speaker 4>of Beirut, taking out a top hesbal of missile commander

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<v Speaker 4>there Bill, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Trey, Trey, yinks Tel Aviv.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all during the ceasefire, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>ceasefires through history have had a fair amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Of back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as both sides are saying the ceasefire still holds,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you still have a ceasefire. Ceasefire is over

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<v Speaker 3>when one or more side says that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>I need somebody to explain to me how the current

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<v Speaker 5>somewhat c c ceasefire is a better strategy than continuing

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<v Speaker 5>to pound Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>I think go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Trump just doesn't want to engage in

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<v Speaker 3>full out war.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Gulf States are probably saying, hey, hey, hey, can we

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<v Speaker 5>just let's give this a real good try before we

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<v Speaker 5>get the violence going again, because I know it was

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely devastating to the UAE. Some of those giant, gleaming

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<v Speaker 5>cities with the highest skyscrapers in the world and the

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<v Speaker 5>magnificent architecture and the resorts that are artificial, this, that,

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<v Speaker 5>and the other, they're empty right now. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>our allies in the region are probably desperate to not

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<v Speaker 5>have the you know, the the real hostilities start again.

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<v Speaker 3>Hoping Iran caves because of the financial situation. To that

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<v Speaker 3>In the New York Times New York Times Today, Iranian

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<v Speaker 3>state television reported on Wednesday that had obtained an initial

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<v Speaker 3>unofficial framework for an agreement. So this is a weird

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<v Speaker 3>thing that's going on right now. We'll say we have

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<v Speaker 3>an agreement, and we'll lay out what the stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>that's beneficial to us, and then Iran will say, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't agree to that. And now Iran is announcing we

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<v Speaker 3>have an agreement, and they lay out the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 3>beneficial to them, and we say we don't agree to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>The White House roundly dismissed the report, calling it a

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<v Speaker 3>complete fabrication, and mister Trump said several of the terms

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<v Speaker 3>it outlined would be unacceptable. So Iran just did the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing basically that we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds to me like where you announced there's a deal

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<v Speaker 3>and the other side hasn't agreed to it. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if both sides are trying to pull off the

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<v Speaker 3>presumptive clothes, or like we're talking to people who agree

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<v Speaker 3>to stuff but they aren't the reals.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>History will tell, I guess. And there's so much happening

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<v Speaker 5>behind the scenes that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not privy too. And here maybe for the forever,

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<v Speaker 1>under the now.

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<v Speaker 3>Under the framework released by Iran, Iran would reopen the

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<v Speaker 3>Strait of horr Moves to commercial ships, but it would

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<v Speaker 3>continue to control the strait in cooperation with Oman, and

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<v Speaker 3>she would not charge tolls.

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<v Speaker 1>It would just.

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<v Speaker 5>Charge huge fees for navigation assistance.

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<v Speaker 1>Please yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In return, the United States would lift its naval blockade

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<v Speaker 3>on ships entering and leaving Iranian ports. So we leave

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<v Speaker 3>and you get to control the strait. Is not a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to agree to, I would assume.

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<v Speaker 3>And the report that Iran put out saying we have

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<v Speaker 3>a deal made no mention of the most contentious issues,

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<v Speaker 3>like the future of their nuclear program or the stockpile

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<v Speaker 3>of their enriched uranium.

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<v Speaker 1>So other than that, we're very close.

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<v Speaker 3>The Wall Street Journal version Iran's hardline rulers aren't willing

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<v Speaker 3>to conced much to secure a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>They're eager to deter future.

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<v Speaker 3>Attacks, and they want the sanctions to end, but they

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<v Speaker 3>aren't willing to give on a whole bunch of different stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But the government is also very eager to secure financial

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<v Speaker 3>relief because the blockade is deepening the economic crisis. One

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<v Speaker 3>Iranian official said the economy had held up earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>the war, but that has changed now after Washington began

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<v Speaker 3>stopping vessels from entering and leaving Iranian terminals. The amount

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<v Speaker 3>of money they're getting dropped off so much that they're in.

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<v Speaker 1>Really bad shape.

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<v Speaker 3>And one Iranian officials said nationalism can only work for

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<v Speaker 3>so long, referring to Iranian's reasons to support the regime's

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<v Speaker 3>war effort. That's the people that get in the streets

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<v Speaker 3>and chant death to America. At some point they're gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>according to this Iranian, they're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's enough.

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<v Speaker 3>We ain't got no food, we ain't got no fuel,

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<v Speaker 3>we ain't got no electricity. And to that point, the

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<v Speaker 3>sanctions associated press, the Trump administration today or yesterday placed

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<v Speaker 3>additional sanctions on Iran. I'll never understand this with sanctions.

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<v Speaker 3>I've wondered about it my whole life. Some country or

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<v Speaker 3>person does something horrible to us, and we put sanctions

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<v Speaker 3>on them, and then something else happens, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>announce additional sanctions, and I always think.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad does it gotta get? Why if these if

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<v Speaker 1>there are more sanctions available.

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<v Speaker 3>Before yesterday, why weren't we doing them already ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Yeah? Yeah, Why we never understood that. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had it explain to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Why aren't we doing the absolute maximum, to the absolute

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<v Speaker 3>limit of sanctions that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Power over already?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 5>There are a couple of reasons you wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>do that, because some of them involve kind of abusing

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<v Speaker 5>your status as the world financial clearinghouse. And you don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to get a rep for doing that too much,

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<v Speaker 5>or you or be that anymore. Well, yeah, but there's

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<v Speaker 5>a long history of US continuing to, you know, not

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<v Speaker 5>freeze assets and seize things. Anyway, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>get into those weeds, but I see your point generally.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was interesting that the what's this guy's

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<v Speaker 5>the speaker the parliament, Iranian president, whatever the hell that means.

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<v Speaker 5>They're talking about how prices of like your staple foods, rice, meat, bread,

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<v Speaker 5>cheese have skyrocketed in recent weeks, and Iranian households are

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<v Speaker 5>super pressured, blah blah blah, and the government's afraid of

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<v Speaker 5>stability falling in part again, and the President Massud Pazekian

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<v Speaker 5>and other pragment has realized the slide will have to

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<v Speaker 5>be stemmed if they're to maintain stability meeting. The worsening

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<v Speaker 5>economic picture is becoming a key pressure point in the

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<v Speaker 5>negotiations with Washington. Here's what he said to the Tehran

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<v Speaker 5>Chamber of Commerce Wednesday. I'm sure their meetings are cheery

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<v Speaker 5>these days, he said. The main war is in the

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<v Speaker 5>economic field. If you failed, the country fails.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tehran Chamber of Commerce, yeah, they're like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there won't be lunch this week, and in fact, there

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<v Speaker 1>won't be any water or.

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<v Speaker 5>Electricity at the big meeting, So come as yard, bring

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<v Speaker 5>a flashlight and a bottled water.

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is, let me give you Mark Halprin's.

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<v Speaker 3>Assessment of all those articles from the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>We all need to stop asking if there's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a US Iran agreement that holds not under the

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<v Speaker 3>current trajectory, there can be no sustainable deal with Tehran.

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<v Speaker 3>So the question is what does Donald Trump plan to

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<v Speaker 3>do to change the trajectory. Maybe Scott Bessant, Treasury Secretary,

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<v Speaker 3>will make that clear at the White House briefing today,

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<v Speaker 3>But if the President won't go back to full scale war,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe the economic pressure is still the answer. There's

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<v Speaker 3>got to be a limit to how long Iran can

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<v Speaker 3>put up with this. They're just hoping that that they

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<v Speaker 3>can hold out longer than Trump will is willing to

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<v Speaker 3>hold out. With the high gas prices in the midterms,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I watch MSNBC and and every day they're

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<v Speaker 3>just hammering the gas prices and Trump doesn't care about

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<v Speaker 3>your you know, financial well being, and they.

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<v Speaker 5>Run that clip over and over again. I'm sure or

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<v Speaker 5>he said I don't care about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And some of my favorite pundits who were pro war

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning have turned and now think it was

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<v Speaker 3>a bad idea. I don't understand how we attach gas

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<v Speaker 3>prices to this at all. He either got to stop

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<v Speaker 3>ran from getting a nuclear weapon because it would be

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<v Speaker 3>like the worst thing that ever happened to the world,

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<v Speaker 3>or it's not and you just gotta It's like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like if you have to amputate a leg because you

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<v Speaker 3>got an infection that'll kill you. Yeah, it's really, really horrible,

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<v Speaker 3>but the alternative is worse. Yeah, it's a good metaphor,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're really I'm getting the bomb could literally be

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<v Speaker 3>the worst thing ever to happen to humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's not an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be the worst thing that ever happened on the

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<v Speaker 3>planet if Iran got a bomb. In fact, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it probably would be. But let me get back to

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<v Speaker 3>Helprin's analysis. Unless this is directly related, the book might

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<v Speaker 3>be related, but the administration has not done a good

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<v Speaker 3>job of convincing people of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Back to Halpern's analysis, which I thought was terrific. As usual,

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<v Speaker 5>him talking about observing the current trajectory there's no chance

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<v Speaker 5>of a deal, a sustainable deal. I agree completely. I

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<v Speaker 5>just I think, what the hell are any of you

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<v Speaker 5>talking about. On the other hand, the trajectory might be

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<v Speaker 5>different than we think it is because of the economic

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<v Speaker 5>stuff going on behind the scenes and ran as we've

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<v Speaker 5>been discussing, or the diplomatic behind closed doors conversation is

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<v Speaker 5>so wildly, radically different than the public pronunciations. We're all

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<v Speaker 5>getting misled by the public, you know, the pronouncements. I

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<v Speaker 5>should say, it's one of those two things. Or we're

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<v Speaker 5>just completely wasting our time, and Trump is getting strung

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<v Speaker 5>along and we're not pounding around for I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>some of the reasons we've discussed. It's all so murky.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, war in conflict is always somewhat murky, but

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<v Speaker 5>I swear this is this is like an algebra equation

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<v Speaker 5>with all variables. I don't even know how to do

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<v Speaker 5>the math.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet Trump paces the Oval Office every.

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<v Speaker 3>Day thinking they can't they can't put up with this

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<v Speaker 3>much longer, thinking, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, they've got to be about to fall.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're old enough in terms of regimes following falling,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's you know, the wall coming down, in East

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<v Speaker 3>Germany or the Soviet Union, or the Arab Spring or

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<v Speaker 3>all these differs. Every regime looks solid up until the

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<v Speaker 3>moment they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why it's always really hard to tell. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>My final thought on the topic is on the popularity

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<v Speaker 5>of the war and people saying it was a good

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<v Speaker 5>idea or a bad idea. I'm back to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>success as a thousand fathers and failures an orphans. It

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<v Speaker 5>reminds me of what every NFL coach knows. If I

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<v Speaker 5>go for it on fourth and two and make it,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the world's greatest genius. But if we don't make it,

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<v Speaker 5>I should be fired immediately, right. That is true, same play,

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<v Speaker 5>same situation. So this thing turns around around, gives up

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<v Speaker 5>the nukes, the Middle East becomes a peaceful you know

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<v Speaker 5>of Valahila.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then this is eighty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Of Americans to say, hell, yeah, the war was a

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<v Speaker 5>great idea up with the USA.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just got to see do we make it

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<v Speaker 1>on fourth and two or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wish they'd make the argument better. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>have a well guess will be too expensive during the summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Be the other side of the argument of Iran having

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<v Speaker 3>a nuclear.

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<v Speaker 1>Weapon, right, that's crazy, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyhow, what are your thoughts? Text line four one five

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<v Speaker 3>two nine five KFTC.

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<v Speaker 1>While we're talking to you from the vehicle, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the fire, you look, I'm all these people.

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<v Speaker 5>What if we have you get out?

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<v Speaker 3>My baby's break down there and I will tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this?

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<v Speaker 5>What if we have you get out of the car.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll put you in one of our cars and will

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<v Speaker 3>drive around the corner so we're somewhere about their everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I only get in this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said, you gave them to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make you soar to lasagna or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I have a pool. My babies are coming to

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<v Speaker 1>my house to nice before.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh why say drunk Britney Spears, trying to argue during

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<v Speaker 5>a DUI arrest that she'll bring them to the house

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<v Speaker 5>and make them lasagna and let them swim in her pool.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't know what that was and until we

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<v Speaker 3>got to until I heard lasagna. Because we've had this

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<v Speaker 3>clip for several days. The fact that Britney Spears offered

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<v Speaker 3>the cops lasagna.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to a house and I'll make you lazagnia.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta admit Britney Spears says, you want to come over,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll make you lasagna.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm in Wow. We gotta at least think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. She sounded like a child, and she's forty five.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And the whole part

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<v Speaker 5>about my babies are coming to my house tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>She has some serious mental problems.

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<v Speaker 5>Which you would too, and she was afraid she'd lose

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<v Speaker 5>like visitation or whatever the situation is with her kids.

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<v Speaker 3>You would have mental problems too if starting as a

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<v Speaker 3>like sixteen year old. Well actually she Disney, she started

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<v Speaker 3>as like an eight year old. But starting as a child,

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<v Speaker 3>your parents trotted you out as a sex object to

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<v Speaker 3>the world to make gazillions of dollars, and you've been

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<v Speaker 3>famous and hounded since you were a child. You'd be

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<v Speaker 3>pretty weird too.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of lawbreakers, this is something a former CIA official

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<v Speaker 5>has been accused of stealing.

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<v Speaker 1>What if she's a good cook. You think Britney Spears

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<v Speaker 1>is a very good cook.

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<v Speaker 5>You know there are some really good like frozen lasagnas

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<v Speaker 5>you could get, or you know there's a pasta store

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<v Speaker 5>not far from my place where you can order them

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<v Speaker 5>to make you a lasagna.

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<v Speaker 1>There's good frozen lasagna. You can order a lazagia that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll make for you.

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<v Speaker 5>The way I phrased it made it sound like you

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<v Speaker 5>go in there and say make meal lasagna. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>you can order a lasagna made by the You could order.

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<v Speaker 1>Them right yes, right away there.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, yeah, a homemade lasagna is really really good,

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<v Speaker 5>but there are some really good options prepared wise. That

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<v Speaker 5>was always our traditional traditional summer vacation meal. We would

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<v Speaker 5>drive Gladys. These were good times back in the day.

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<v Speaker 5>We would drive from the Sacramento area up to sun River, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 5>It's about nine hours with a minivan full of the kids,

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<v Speaker 5>and we were all very tired and hungry when we

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<v Speaker 5>got there, and we would pop a lasagna, frozen lasagna

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<v Speaker 5>that was thawed from the nine hour drive into the oven.

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<v Speaker 5>We'd all have lasagna to kick off our summer vacation.

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<v Speaker 5>It was delightful.

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<v Speaker 3>My lasagna story that I've told many times, and I

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<v Speaker 3>always think that this is a deficit we have in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States. So I knew a bunch of Italians

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<v Speaker 3>way back in the day. For some reason, they were

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<v Speaker 3>all university like Gradston the mob. For a while he

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<v Speaker 3>was an enforcer. He didn't like having to kill people,

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<v Speaker 3>but he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a job.

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<v Speaker 3>These were all grad students, like PhDs and that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff, but they're from Italy and one Christmas I

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<v Speaker 3>got to hang out with him and they all made

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<v Speaker 3>lasagna and it was like eight different dudes made lasagna

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<v Speaker 3>and they were all completely different and all amazing. But

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that every one of these guys learned to

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<v Speaker 3>make homemade lazagna completely from scratch, roll out the pasta,

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<v Speaker 3>all the sort of stuff, that it was still a

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<v Speaker 3>tradition in the two thousands. That you do that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't do that with our culture for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet that was some damn good lasagna. Oh man.

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<v Speaker 1>But grown men that.

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<v Speaker 3>Knew how to make lasagna from scratch because their moms

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<v Speaker 3>taught him to and they thought it was an important

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<v Speaker 3>thing to carry.

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<v Speaker 1>On right right culture tradition.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I love that former CIA official accused of stealing

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<v Speaker 5>will tell you what he stole. Coming up, it's more

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<v Speaker 5>than you're guessing. Guess again. Nope, still not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus an AI update so interesting, including what the Pope

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<v Speaker 5>had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome all on the way if you miss it. Get

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<v Speaker 6>Men.

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<v Speaker 1>We got lots of stuff to talk about. We Trump

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<v Speaker 1>said some amazing things at.

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<v Speaker 3>The cabinet meeting yesterday that we probably should get to probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit that in hour three.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of interesting the AI stuff to talk about,

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<v Speaker 5>but I wanted to pay off this story first. It's

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<v Speaker 5>the headline from the Washington Post. A former CIA official

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<v Speaker 5>has been accused of stealing three hundred and three gold

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<v Speaker 5>bars worth more than forty million dollars WHOA from the

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<v Speaker 5>spy agency and stashing them in his Virginia residence, according

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<v Speaker 5>to a criminal complaint. Here's my favorite part of the story.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, obviously, the fact that you could steal three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and three gold bars worth more than forty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's enough, certainly.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's also accused of misleading his superiors about his

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<v Speaker 5>education military service and falsely claiming college degrees he did

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<v Speaker 5>not have, and seventy seven thousand dollars in military leave

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<v Speaker 5>pay he wasn't entitled to. If I'm this guy's spouse

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<v Speaker 5>or partner in crime, or just his freaking brain, you

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<v Speaker 5>have forty million dollars in gold bars, and you can

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<v Speaker 5>nickel and dime the government over leave pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take any leave. Everything's by the book. Just don't what.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna slip a rim of paper under your sport

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<v Speaker 5>code on the way out too. You've got forty million

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<v Speaker 5>dollars in gold bars in your house cap a low profile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's It's interesting how many.

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<v Speaker 3>Criminals are either stupid or what's driving them is not

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<v Speaker 3>the result.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something else.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some sort of screw screwing the man or or

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<v Speaker 3>getting away with it and showing that they're smarter than

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<v Speaker 3>other people or something. Because if all you wanted was money,

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<v Speaker 3>first of all, don't steal that many. You don't need

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<v Speaker 3>forty million dollars take it. So I did the math.

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<v Speaker 3>That's they're about one hundred and thirty thousand a piece.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't grab a few that wouldn't be as likely

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<v Speaker 3>to be noticed. And yeah, don't don't try to cheat

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<v Speaker 3>on your vacation pay and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>You moron.

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<v Speaker 5>The uh part of the piece in the post rather

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<v Speaker 5>raises a really good question about the efficacy of US

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<v Speaker 5>government background checks on this dude, as well as how

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<v Speaker 5>he was allegedly able to persuade his superiors to entrust

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<v Speaker 5>him with tens of million dollars millions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 5>gold and large amounts of foreign currency.

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<v Speaker 3>No kidding, that's the story. So your thorough background check

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<v Speaker 3>for who should be, you know, in charge of some

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<v Speaker 3>of the nation's important secrets and both bars and whatever

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<v Speaker 3>else doesn't include actually seeing if they went to the

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<v Speaker 3>university they wrote down on a piece of paper, because.

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<v Speaker 1>That requires like a phone call to figure out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no kidding.

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<v Speaker 5>So the AFFI David by the FBI said, Rush that's

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<v Speaker 5>this guy's name, made several requests for golden cash between

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<v Speaker 5>November and March. Subsequent search of his government office revealed

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<v Speaker 5>and only a portion of the currency was in storage

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<v Speaker 5>there and no gold bars.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoops, that's incredible. Two million bucks in cash too. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, don't you disappear? Brother?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again that he was clearly being driven by

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of out smartened people or something that wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just money, or you would have disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>A long time ago.

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<v Speaker 5>God, gold bars, you just got to get across the border, right, right.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's a lot of AI stuff to talk about.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been reading with interest more about Pope Leo's AI manifesto,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's it's it's lovely in a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 5>on a purely spiritual individual level. Him talking about the

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<v Speaker 5>dangers of AI and how it can be an attack

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<v Speaker 5>on the dignity of man and the dignity of work

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<v Speaker 5>and having a life of purpose. All of this is true,

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<v Speaker 5>not to mention harmful uses like the manipulation of information,

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<v Speaker 5>violations of privacy, the fact that AI systems can reflect

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<v Speaker 5>and reinforce the stereotypes or ideological bias of their designers

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<v Speaker 5>and developers.

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<v Speaker 1>So true, all of it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely true, and it's absolutely lovely on an individual basis.

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<v Speaker 5>But then he and I think it was the Wall

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<v Speaker 5>Street Journal. Oh yeah, the Wall Street Journal says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>all that stuff is so true and it's so well said,

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<v Speaker 5>and the rest of it. But then, hand in hand

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<v Speaker 5>with AOC and Bernie Sanders, he wants the government to

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<v Speaker 5>regulate it all and keep a tight grip on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's ridiculous, that is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, stay in your lane, Pop Leo, root for

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<v Speaker 5>the socks right and and do your poping help us

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<v Speaker 5>find Jesus the idea that the Aocason, the Bernie Sanders

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<v Speaker 5>of the world ought to be, you know, in charge

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<v Speaker 5>of America's AI development, as China is going as hard

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<v Speaker 5>and fast as they can add it so they can

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<v Speaker 5>dominate us and subjugate the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't think so, mister Pope.

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<v Speaker 3>Or that the government would necessarily do a good job

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<v Speaker 3>of regulating this.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, they're guaranteed not to guaranteed not to

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<v Speaker 5>which if you're saying, well, Joseph, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>on a you know, a fifty ton locomotive on ice,

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<v Speaker 5>screaming toward a cliff with all this AI stuff, I

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<v Speaker 5>share your sentiment, friend, Yeah, found this interesting. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 5>new career odyssey waiting for today's college grads. According to

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<v Speaker 5>the good folks at is it LinkedIn a big study,

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<v Speaker 5>they estimate the college grads will have twice as many

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<v Speaker 5>jobs over the course of their careers as those who

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<v Speaker 5>started out fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Garan, Well, fifteen years ago, wow, because that's only well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's only fifteen year but that's still well into the

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to come out of high school and

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<v Speaker 3>work for the same company the rest of your life

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<v Speaker 3>thing that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all recognized. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and they're talking about a couple of things. Number One,

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<v Speaker 5>people are tending to work longer because they're living longer,

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<v Speaker 5>but also because of AI and technological change. The fields

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<v Speaker 5>you excel in from age twenty two to twenty seven

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<v Speaker 5>might not exist when you're twenty eight, which is a

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<v Speaker 5>hell of a deal living longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Short a sight here, just because I was into this

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<v Speaker 3>book about the biography about William Shakespeare. But so at

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<v Speaker 3>the time that Shakespeare was bumping around in England, born

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<v Speaker 3>in the mid fifteen hundreds, the average life span was

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<v Speaker 3>forty or something like that. But in London, in the

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<v Speaker 3>poorer areas of London, the average mail lived to be

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>Ooh, Now, I always need to separate infant mortality.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I don't understand. That's where it throws it

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<v Speaker 1>all off. Yeah right, yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 5>Because there's a separate statistic. If you survived to one year,

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<v Speaker 5>then it's a totally different stat for your life expectancy.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, the point remains, that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like that we haven't adjusted the world

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<v Speaker 3>for the fact that most people live a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>We still haven't in a hundred ways. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you're gonna if you get out of

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<v Speaker 3>high school at eighteen and you've got to support yourself

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<v Speaker 3>till ninety, which might be close to the life expectancy

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<v Speaker 3>if you you know, if you've already made it to eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a lot of money you need.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, especially since we're not having babies and social Security

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 5>and Medicare are pyramid schemes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I'll make.

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<v Speaker 3>An eighty eight, which is almost certainly the life expectancy

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<v Speaker 3>of an eighteen year old.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got seventy years you've got to support yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would say so, and I wish you hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>brought it up. So let's see what I say. Oh,

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 5>it's awesome more common to work a job that's disconnected

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<v Speaker 5>from your undergraduate major. About forty two percent of recent

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<v Speaker 5>college grads have jobs that don't require degrees at all,

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<v Speaker 5>never mind ones in the field that they studied.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a second, I'm not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>make my living in bipoc poetry analysis.

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<v Speaker 5>That number is up four percent from two and a

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<v Speaker 5>half years ago, so it is trending upward in a big,

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<v Speaker 5>big hurry. And you know, my takeaway from this article is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it makes sense that people will have more different jobs

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 5>and more different industries because of the base change. But

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<v Speaker 5>is it going to be twice as many jobs or

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<v Speaker 5>three times as many or half as many? Or will

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<v Speaker 5>they never work again? Or will robots harvest our internal organs?

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody has the idea. I'm hoping that last one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what a robot's gonna do with my pancreas,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's on my radar screen. I don't know how

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 3>they I mean, somebody's got to write these articles, but

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<v Speaker 3>what are they basing these guesses on. Nobody has any

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<v Speaker 3>idea what industries AI is going to completely destroy, completely destroy,

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<v Speaker 3>like will never exist again in the history of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Earth, right right, right? Hey Michael, do we have a

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like a security system to keep the AI robots

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<v Speaker 3>out of my house so they don't come in and

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<v Speaker 3>harvest my organs.

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<v Speaker 5>Hang out of your organs, yeah, with both hands. So

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<v Speaker 5>this is something. Using AI for just ten minutes might

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 5>make you lazy and dumb. Okay to you do a

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<v Speaker 5>new study You've said this a bunch of times to like,

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<v Speaker 5>I love that headline.

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<v Speaker 1>I use AI a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, Michael, you know the jury is ready to

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<v Speaker 5>your honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't understand why this would be. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I understand how God I did this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was in bed all day long yesterday with

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 3>the rotavirus, which we'll talk more about later, but spent

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 3>way too much time just scrolling through YouTube shorts or whatever.

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 3>God that stuff's addictive. Now that making you dumb? I

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 3>completely understand. I feel like when I finally break myself

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 3>free from that, I'd like, how do I tie my shoes?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm dumb, but I don't understand why just

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<v Speaker 3>using a I would well.

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<v Speaker 5>According to a new study from researchers at Carnegie Mellon,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 5>which sounds like something you'd have at a summer barbecue, MI,

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<v Speaker 5>t Oxford, and UCLA, using chatbots for even just ten

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 5>minutes may have shockingly negative impact on people's ability to

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<v Speaker 5>think and problem solve. Researchers task people with solving various problems,

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<v Speaker 5>including simple fractions and reading comprehension, through an online platform

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 5>that paid them for their work. They conducted three experiments,

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<v Speaker 5>each involving several hundred people. Some participants were given access

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 5>to AI assistance capable of solving the problems autonomously. When

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 5>the AI helper was suddenly taken away, these people were

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 5>significantly more likely to give up on the problem or

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 5>flub their answers. The study suggests you take away the.

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<v Speaker 1>AI, I say, I give up.

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<v Speaker 5>The study suggests that widespread use of AI might boost

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 5>productivity at the expense of developing foundational problem solving skills,

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 5>says one of the head professors. The takeaway is not

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 5>that we should ban AI in education or workplaces. AI

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 5>can clearly help people perform better in the moment, and

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 5>that can be valuable, but we should be more careful

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 5>about what kind of help AI provides.

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>And when.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 5>He says essentially and it's super interesting and we'll post it,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you'll get Paywald at Armstrong and getty

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 5>dot com will post a link. He says, it's fundamentally

0:29:56.600 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 5>a cognitive question about persistence learning and how people were

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 5>respond to difficulty. We wanted to take these broader concerns

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 5>about long term human AI interactions, studying them in a

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 5>controlled setting. The resulting study seems particularly concerning because a

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 5>person's willingness to persist with problem solving is crucial to

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<v Speaker 5>acquiring new skills and also predicts their capacity to learn

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<v Speaker 5>over time. You know, they said it was shocking the

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 5>way people they just they got intellectually very lazy using

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<v Speaker 5>AI for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>This kind of makes sense to me, And it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit similar to the.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about how much we all hate.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if somebody comes up with a you know, who

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 3>is the lead guitar player for whatever, and you're sitting

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<v Speaker 3>around and trying to guess it and somebody just googles

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<v Speaker 3>it and then hits you with the answer. It's like, no,

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 3>the fun was us trying to think of it and

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<v Speaker 3>come up with it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, you just google it.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we do the same thing with like everything,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than figure it out somewhat or think about it

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<v Speaker 3>a little longer, or.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can come up with an example.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a bad example because I don't know if

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:08.959
<v Speaker 3>I'd ever figured out on my own. But the other

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>day my son's truck wouldn't start. I mentioned this yesterday

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I went on AI got a year model a truck.

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<v Speaker 3>This is happening, and it gave me the five things.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that it is as opposed to me trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure it out on my own. If we do

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 3>that with on this particular, I don't know if I'd

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 3>have figured out on my own, But if we do

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<v Speaker 3>that with every single problem we have, yeah, the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to figure things out is.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna go away.

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<v Speaker 5>You remember that big study that came out a few

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<v Speaker 5>years ago that doing puzzles to the like puzzles.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard enough that you're frustrated.

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<v Speaker 5>That's when your brain is improving or that's a staving

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 5>off age related cognitive loss. It's that feeling of being

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 5>frustrated or really having to concentrate on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>I can feel my brain, I can feel my body

0:31:58.480 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 5>chemistry change.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about vexing problem that you're thinking, what

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the heck is it? That feeling?

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<v Speaker 5>If we lose that to this studies point, the next

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 5>time you think I'm not done not going through that,

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 5>it's like your electric bike conking out. When you become

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 5>reliant on it, You're like, I gotta pedal up a hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. If you have any thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>On this would be interested in texting four one, five, two, nine,

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<v Speaker 3>five k FTC A lot more on the way.

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<v Speaker 6>James Carville says Donald Trump can't be the anti Christ

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<v Speaker 6>because he's too dumb. Meanwhile, Carville thinks he's Jesus because

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<v Speaker 6>everyone who sees his face says.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus, what happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>If you haven't been following James Carvill's Twitter feed, he

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>is off the rails. Oh yeah, he's unhinged. He's so angry.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very old.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple of things for you. This is a sad one

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>if you're old enough to remember what a big deal

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Sugar Ray Leonard was as a boxer. He's got some

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 3>troubles with his son. Sugar Ray Leonard makes shocking claims

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 3>about son after alleged violent incident at the Legends home.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>He's got a twenty five year old He's filed a

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<v Speaker 3>request for a restraining order against his kid. Has become

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<v Speaker 3>a drug addict and just can't shake it and has

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>been stealing from him and dangerous to himself and others.

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 3>He's overdosed four times, Sugar Ray Leonard said, and I

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 3>hadn't written declaration to the police in the county. They've

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>had to bring him back to life. Two times at

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 3>the hospital, he's stolen extreme amounts of money, and he

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 3>asked the judge for order that would require his son

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<v Speaker 3>to stay one hundred yards away from him.

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<v Speaker 1>What a horrible situation that is? Yeah, too bad, freaking

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:57.719
<v Speaker 1>modern drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I told story about somebody I know whose son, really

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 3>really successful kid started on that gas station heroin thing.

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Is this like a kind of like a five hour

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 3>energy sort of deal just to try to stay a

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 3>little more awake, and it led him toward opioids and

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 3>just it's a disaster. Ugh, I know, I hate that story.

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.280
<v Speaker 3>I like this story though. I remember when this first happened,

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 3>and I was shocked that people didn't make a bigger

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 3>deal out of it. During the protests at the very

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 3>beginning of all this hullabaloo of the College Kid's protest

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 3>in Israel, after October seventh, et cetera, et cetera, UCLA

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 3>students blocking Jewish students from getting into their dorms or

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 3>the library or going to class, and they got away

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 3>with it, and I thought, how is this even possible? Well,

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 3>there was a fresh lawsuit from the US Department of

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Justice on how UCLA created a hostile educational environment for

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 3>a specific protected group of students, and they absolutely did.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 3>Maba thugs who took over the campus in twenty twenty four,

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 3>blocking Jewish students from reaching their classes unless they renounced Zionism.

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine any other group, protected group being on

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 3>the bad end of that sort of thing, and the

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 3>media basically covering it up by not covering it at all,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Justice Department overlooking it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's incredible, Germany, nineteen thirty six.

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<v Speaker 3>As the lawsuit says, the fact is that UCLA was

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<v Speaker 3>indifferent at best to the outrageous behavior of the activists

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 3>and the anti Israel encampment. Actually, it would be more

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 3>accurate to say that UCLA back to the encampment, ringing

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 3>it with steel fencing and protecting it from security personnel.

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 3>We talked about that at the time, how they put

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 3>a fence around it to make sure nobody could bother

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 3>the students that.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Were keeping Jewish kids from going to class.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 5>And if I'm encouraged by every professor I have, in

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<v Speaker 5>what sense is the university just indifferent?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that the universe didn't call out these kids

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<v Speaker 3>expel them, that every faculty member wasn't giving speeches that

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't on the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single night. It hardly got any attention anywhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the country.

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<v Speaker 5>That illustrates how deep the rod is in our universities,

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<v Speaker 5>the permanent omni cause, the Neo Marxism, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, we'll see where this goes in the Justice Department

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<v Speaker 3>and stay on top of it. Trump had a big

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<v Speaker 3>cabinet meeting yesterday. We'll give you a couple of clips

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<v Speaker 3>of that that are danged interesting. An hour three I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you can stick around for if you miss it,

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<v Speaker 3>gets Podcast Armstrong You Getty on the Mom