1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day at the State? 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Is that? Woo? Woof? And them and tie Welcome back 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: to the salar verbal boys and girls. My name's Ty 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Hildebrands as always that final gentleman over They're the one, 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: the only, still the incomparable after all these years, Dan Rubinstein, Sir, 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: how goes it in Chicago? Still do one? A? 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to get in trouble by the people 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: that get, you know, copyright music stuff in trouble. I'm good, Ty. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: I love signing day, signing days, signing day year. I 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: love recruiting because it's insane. It's the thing that sets 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: college football. And I suppose college basketball apart from the 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: rest of the insane world of sports. And if you 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: wanted to introduce somebody to college football, there are three 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: things that make apps no sense in terms of what 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: people have as a reference point for major sports, and 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: recruiting is at the top of that list. Now that 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: the postseason is beginning to resemble what other postseasons look 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: like in baseball, and football or NFL football. The recruiting 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: stuff is so like if you wanted to genuinely get 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: somebody from Belgium, from Chile into college football, and you 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: would have to say, are you sure? Are you sure? 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Are you sure? The first thing you do is you 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: take them to a tailgate in a game and you 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: let them soak in the culture. The second thing you 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: do is you sit down and you try to explain 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: the nonsense, beautiful nonsense that is recruiting. We are here 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: today to make sense of a bunch of major classes 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: and trends within the sport and early impact guys. But 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: I treasure that it's what sets us apart from the 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: other animals. 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: Ty, I think that's a great way of looking at it. 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: We appreciate one and all stop it on by It 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: is college football, quote unquote. Off season doesn't mean there's 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: not news, doesn't mean there's not goings on, doesn't mean 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: that there isn't a second. We got two of them 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: signing there, Yeah, two signing days. Now. Once was not enough, 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: hasn't been enough for a couple of years. Now, now 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: we got two of them. There were a lot of 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: names that were already kind of set in stone going 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: into today. But we've got a little bit more clarity 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: as a result of some of the names that have 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: moved about, have flipped, have not flipped? What have you 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: going to go through that in a little bit more 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: detail here over the next forty five minutes to an 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: hour or so. Don't forget to hit subscribe if you 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: have yet to do so. 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I don't know 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: if the paperwork is in, but obviously a complicated recruitment 79 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: in that it appears he got mixed up, maybe through 80 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: his own doing, maybe through others doing in some anil drama. 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: But hopefully this marks the beginning of a football narrative. 82 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Jane Rashoda at Asu, I'm surprised you would pick Asu 83 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: that he's got to compete with Drew Pine, so it's 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: probably not a I'm just kidding, appears to be the 85 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: number one there in Oh. 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to start this year. 87 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: I imagine Drew Pine will probably get the first look. 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: Please really, Oh, come on, Okay, he's a legacy. Jane 89 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: Rashada is a legacy at Arizona State, and the expectations 90 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: for him, the expectations for ASU are bottom of the 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: barrel right now because of the amount of roster turnover, 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: because of how many transfers are coming in, because of 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: the looming NCAA attention with Arizona State, which is a 94 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: nice to be, right if you are somebody who is 95 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: going to be saddled with expectations because of the spotlight 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: that comes with being a high profile quarterback with high 97 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: profile commitments and decommitments, go somewhere where expectations are pretty 98 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: I agree. 99 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: I would start Jade and Rashato over Drew Pine if 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: he turned around and threw lefty. That's how I feel 101 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: about that circumstance. We can get more into it as 102 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: a season draws near, and as we find out a 103 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: little bit more about what Jade and Rashada looks like. 104 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: Against college competition, but coming from where I've been over 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: the last six to eight months or so, yeah, I'll 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: take I'll take what I don't know over what I 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: think I do. 108 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: So this new non early signing period Signing day is 109 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: pretty much drama free every year, just because so many 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: people are trying to enroll early and thus commit early 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: to get a jump on their college seasons. Nick Harbor, 112 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: five star athlete, I think the number one athlete in 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: the country, chose South Carolina over Oregon. Trackstar and I 114 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: think he's gonna play offense. He was considered to be 115 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: a five star are because of his ability and potential 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: playing defense on the edge, but you know, speed to 117 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: burn obviously as a high level sprinter. So South Carolina 118 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: with an incredible, incredible recruiting coup today. He visited Oregon 119 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: last weekend, who they themselves can offer a lot in 120 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: the world of track and field. I saw Michigan flipped 121 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: a Stanford commit Cameron Brandt, a defensive lineman, a longtime 122 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: Stanford commitment who, obviously when David Shaw resigned, seemed to 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: open things back up. Walker Lyons, a top flight tight 124 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: end who was actually delaying his enrollment a little bit 125 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: going on an LDS mission, A little bit of a 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: surprise going to USC. There Roderick Pleasant a top flight corner. 127 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: Also a track guy going to Oregon from southern California. 128 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: That was an Oregon US sea battle. I presume there 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: will be a number of Oregon USC battles in the 130 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: years to come when Dan Lanning and Lincoln Riley are 131 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: at both of those respective schools. I saw Alabama pulled 132 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: off Desmond Rix a mindship corner. 133 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: Did you did you see Alabama's class. 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 2: The number three only the number three class of all time, 135 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: only the number. 136 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Three class of all time but one this cycle. It 137 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: was Alabama Georgia one two one. This cycle did set 138 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: a record though with respect to five stars. There were 139 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: nine five stars as part of this class. Kean Keehley 140 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the edge rusher. They also had Quay Russaw. I probably 141 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: said his name incorrectly, yaj Jan Jay Pierre probably another 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: one I said in correctly. I apologize, Justice Hayes Haines, Yeah, yeah, 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: we had Caleb Downs, We have Caden Proctor, James Smith, 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Justice Haynes, Jalen Hale, and as you mentioned, Desmond Rix. 145 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: That's all nine of them and that. Yeah. I mean, look, 146 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: talent at Alabama is never in short supply, but they 147 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: are clearly loading up here. 148 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Caden Proctor was a long time Iowa commit from Iowa, 149 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: seemed to come down to Iowa, Oregon and Alabama at 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: the end there where he flipped his commitment to Alabama. 151 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: So you know it's rich get rich or this is 152 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: no surprise. Alabama has earned obviously the attention that you know, 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: recruits give to them and are able to sign with 154 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Alabama in droves every year, the top flight kids. So 155 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: not a surprise there. I don't know if there are 156 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: any surprises in the top ten, top fifteen, top twenty. 157 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: It's an interesting time with recruiting just because you'll see 158 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: the average rating of a commit be pretty high. But 159 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: a school only take fifteen whereas another school takes twenty nine. 160 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: And there's this conversation about priorities, whether or not a 161 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: school is hitting the portal really hard like the LA 162 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: schools or Michigan State. A number of schools are choosing 163 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: to go that route instead of you know, pushing a 164 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: lot of their eggs into the high school basket. So 165 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: did anybody else stand out to you as like, oh, 166 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: look at that they're there or wooh they're not there. 167 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to be honest with you, Notre Dame 168 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: at ten stands out to me, if only because they 169 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: were one for a good long time during this recruiting cycle, 170 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the riding's be on the wall that they weren't in 171 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: a finish one and that they could finish. They did, 172 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: But Notre Dame at ten still really good class. Twenty 173 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: four stars. We'll talk more about Notre Dame's class here 174 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: and maybe some instant impact guys as we go through, 175 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: but Notre Dame at ten, I think is one that 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: jumps out to me. I would also throw Oklahoma in there, 177 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Oklahoma at Texas and Oklahoma at three and four Texas 178 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: for the very strong class we've talked about that. But Oklahoma, 179 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, didn't have the season many expected, but still recruited, 180 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: recruited really, really hard this cycle and got up to 181 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: number four, which you know, I think is a testament 182 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: to that staff and how hard they're working. Heard a 183 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: lot of doom and gloom about Florida, but Florida's still 184 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, thirteenth right behind USC. Still a pretty good 185 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: class for the Gators in South Carolina. Look, you mentioned 186 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: South Carolina before, but South Carolina all the way up 187 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: at at sixteen I think is notable. Obviously getting the 188 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: big signing here at the end with Nick Harbor. Yeah, 189 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge deal, right to help boost 190 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: that ranking. But just in terms of the SEC South 191 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Carolina coming in seventh, behind Texas A and M, and 192 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: ahead of Auburn, Arkansas, Mississippi State, even Old miss to 193 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: finish where they did, I think just continued steam on 194 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: Shane Beemer Beamer ball, as Harbor called out when when 195 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: he announced that he was going to go to Columbia 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: South Carolina instead. You know, there's definitely something of foot there. 197 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: And if you're a South Carolina fan, I think you 198 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: got to be thrilled. 199 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely no. So this year, to me, the first 200 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: thing is it's a quarterback here. It is just because 201 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: of the top of the quarterback rankings list, whether it's 202 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: Arch Manning or Malachi Nelson. 203 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: Or Dante Yeah. 204 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: So the big thing is when you have a class 205 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: like this and what we perceived to be Jaden Rashada 206 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: Arizona State, what we perceive to be depth of possibly 207 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: incredible quarterbacks at the top, you're spreading talent around in 208 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: ways that we haven't necessarily seen at the top of 209 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: the sport. So what does that mean for UCLA? What 210 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: does that mean for Oklahoma who is used to getting 211 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: top flight quarterback talent obviously these past few years when 212 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley was running the show. Hopefully it means more 213 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: at the top of the sport that you have a 214 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: game changer at quarterback, and if it's Tennessee who definitely 215 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: had it this past year, but you have that guy 216 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: for maybe two three years down the road developing within 217 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: that system, as opposed to Hendon Hooker and Joe Milton 218 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: transferring in. What does that mean for his ceiling? I 219 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: think it's a fascinating, fascinating year at quarterback. There's a guy, 220 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: Kase State got a quarterback. It's Avery. You might have 221 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: it in front of you, Avery Johnson. Avery Johnson that 222 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: a lot of a ton of people think incredibly highly 223 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: of and maybe in a way that k State hasn't 224 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: had that high school commitment who has needed to develop 225 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: and I think he's like a two or three sports star. 226 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: So that kind of depth at the top of the 227 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: sport I think can only be a good thing, especially 228 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: if we see a number of these guys in an 229 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: expanded playoff that seems to be a in for everybody 230 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: who wants that quality in a deeper field. 231 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: On today's show, what I think we're going to try 232 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: and do is go through what do we got ten 233 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: teams here? Something like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah. We want 234 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: to evaluate where things stand with a bunch of different 235 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: schools in terms of what is going out, what is 236 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: coming in, which players we could see from this class 237 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: making an impact, sure, and really just in looking at 238 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: the class as a whole, what does it tell us 239 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: about the health of the program, What does it tell 240 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: us about their priorities? Does that mesh with what we 241 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: saw this season over the last couple of seasons. For 242 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: some places like Georgia, I'll talk about Georgia, Georgia isn't 243 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: a much much different class than most of college football. 244 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: If you're coming in as a freshman, it's a pretty 245 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: good chance, much like you'll see at Ohio State some 246 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: other places. Alabama is probably another great example, maybe one 247 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: of the only where if you're coming in as a freshman, 248 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good chance that the best you're going 249 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: to do is get to the second team. There's enough 250 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: depth from recruiting successes of years past that in order 251 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: to crack that top line, you gotta be pre damn good. 252 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: That's not to say it doesn't happen. It happens all 253 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: the time, but that is I think where we start 254 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: the conversation with some of those truly elite programs. As 255 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: we work down a little bit, then we start talking about, 256 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: all right, who's plug and play, who can step in 257 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: and who can immediately make a difference. I'm going to 258 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: talk about Notre Dame as well. There are some guys 259 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: in this class that could step in and make an 260 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: instant impact for Notre Dame. You don't quite have that 261 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: level of depth that we'll talk about with Alabama, Georgia, right, 262 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: et cetera. So it obviously is a different conversation depending 263 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: on the team. But I think across the board here 264 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: with all these teams that we're going to discuss some 265 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: really interesting names that make the conversation quite quite intriguing 266 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: at this early stage of twenty twenty three. 267 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the SEC in particular, just because you mentioned Georgia, 268 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: they finish number two with a paltry a paltry five 269 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: five stars instead of Alabama's nine. The SEC is fascinating 270 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: because you can finish you know, eighth, ninth, tenth in 271 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: the conference and have a top fifteen class, a top 272 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: twenty class just because the area is so rich with talents. 273 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: You know, Ole Miss is one of those schools that 274 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: doesn't recruit a ton because they you know, Lane Kiffen, 275 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: the self described portal king. Fourteen commitments in this class. 276 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: But the blue chip ratio is there seven blue chips, 277 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: seven non blue chips, and they're ranked at eleven in 278 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: the SEC with a fifty percent blue chip ratio. You 279 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: mentioned Florida, Tennessee in the top five within the SEC. 280 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: Not a surprise at LSU and Georgia are right there 281 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: in the top four with Alabama. But no, it's it's 282 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: wild to me that if Georgia puts together this class 283 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: in you know, six of the last ten years or 284 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: something like that, it's winning everything, winning everything, and then 285 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: Alabama is just paced ahead. So what stands out to 286 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: you about the defending champion, the two time defending champion, 287 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldogs and what they did. 288 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's almost predictable. It's herb be smart 289 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: team and the focus of this class just by sheer 290 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: numbers is on both offensive and defensive line. It all 291 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: starts up front, thank you, David Pollock yep, and defensive back, 292 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: defensive back, So trying to replenish the lines, trying to 293 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: get good in the secondary. As you said, the number 294 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: two overall class, they had what appeared to be a 295 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: glaring weakness, weakness in air quotes. Of course at receiver, 296 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: big question at receiver. Of course brock Bauers is back. 297 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Of course Lad McConkey is back. But with Ady Mitchell leaving, 298 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, who's Georgia wants to get a 299 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: little bit more downfield? They have, They've done it, but 300 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: they want to do more of it, and I think 301 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: adding some ammo at receiver can help them do that. 302 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: So as opposed to addressing that as prominently through the 303 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: recruiting game, they're very active in the portal. Now, there 304 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: was an arrest of other gentlemen who Rarah yep, rah 305 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: Rah came over from Misissippi State, which does not help. 306 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: I have not seen an update on that status, but 307 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, they've been active enough in the portal that 308 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: I think they'll be They'll be just fine. The name 309 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: that obviously comes to mind. Somebody who's going to step 310 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: in is Dominic Loveck. We talked about him on the 311 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: show and the Transfer Portal show that we did a 312 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. He's someone who I think will 313 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: come in, give them depth, give them productivity out wide. 314 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: So I don't focus my attention as much there with 315 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: this twenty three class as I do again, Guys who 316 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: you could see stepping up and maybe making some hay 317 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: on that second team level. Sure, the name that stands 318 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: out to me, and maybe it's only because of his size, 319 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Jamal Jarrett. Have you heard the 320 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: name Jamal Jarrett? Dan no, please expand on Jamal Jarrett. Yeah, Jamal, 321 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Jamal Jarrett. Jamal Jarrett, excuse me? Is six six three 322 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: forty Oh. 323 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: Sure. 324 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: He's a big dude, and you can never have enough 325 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: depth along the defensive line, especially if you've got a 326 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: guy who is that size on the defensive line. I 327 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: gotta believe you find a way to plug him in. 328 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: The comp has been Jordan Davis, who was obviously another 329 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: standout for the George Bulldogs along the defensive line. He 330 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: has got that kind of build and that kind of frame. 331 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: When Jordan Davis was there. We saw him also break 332 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: into the twos his freshman year back in twenty eighteen. 333 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: Whenever that was so, I could see Jarrett taking on 334 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: a much, much similar path, just given the fact that 335 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: he's so damn big, and if he does possess that 336 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis skill set, obviously Kirby Smart's gonna have a 337 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: place for him. Oh yeah, of course. 338 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: And you look at even last year's class, the guys 339 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: who saw the field quickly, Michael Williams, Malachi Starks obviously 340 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: made an early impact. And it's one of those luxuries 341 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: that a team like Georgia, that a program like Georgia has, 342 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: is when you're up thirty four to three at the 343 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 2: top of the third quarter, suddenly you can play freshman, 344 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: Suddenly you can play your twos, your threes, and they're 345 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: getting a ton of playing time. 346 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: And so if. 347 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: Physically that guy is ready, as you said, Jamal Jarrett, 348 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: Jamal Jarrett, yeah, yeah, I don't know the kind of 349 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: weight he's carrying, that's a big deal as well. If 350 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: he has the energy, if he has the motor at 351 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: three hundred and forty pounds, if he should be paying 352 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: at three fifteen or something like that, I guess yet 353 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: to be seen. But yeah, these guys, especially Glenn Schuman 354 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: and Will mus Champ, are going to continue the whole 355 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: thing of just like rotating in guys legs fresh, legs fresh, 356 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: and so George is going to be in a good place. 357 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: Lose a couple of big name guys in this year's 358 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: class heading off to the NFL, and Keey Ringo, Jalen Carter, 359 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: you know some of the headliners there. Sure, but yeah, 360 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: I expect even if these guys don't play a ton 361 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: from this class, the top of this class, whether it's 362 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: a receiver, whether it's defensive lineman, I just expect if 363 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: they are there physically, if the fitness is there, that 364 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: they're going to see the field. So Kirby's mark and 365 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: see what he has in this year's class. Yeah, I mean, 366 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: and look when. 367 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: I talk about Jamal Jared, I'm not even talking about 368 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: some of the highest rated guys in this class, right. 369 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an incredible class. It was two overall, 370 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: what do you say, five five stars. So, whether it's 371 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Damon Wilson, the edge rusher out of Florida, Raylan Wilson, 372 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: the linebacker out of Florida Monroe Freeling, the big offensive tackle. 373 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he will get work. It's a 374 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: good spot for him because George has been good at 375 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: developing offensive tackles as of late. So whenever he gets in, 376 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: he's in a good spot. Like They've got guys here 377 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: that are are far even above Jamal Jarreted in terms 378 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: of recruiting ranking, and I suppose there's always an opportunity 379 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: for those guys. But I just think, if I'm trying 380 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: to pick a name from this big list, his size 381 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: is really appealing to me, and that comp Whenever I 382 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: see Jordan Davids, it's like, all right, I remember where 383 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: we were when Jordan Davis was getting all sorts of 384 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: draft types. Sure, so that's a guy who you would 385 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: think could coming in and make an impact of forestar 386 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: in his own right out of North Carolina. 387 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: So the other class that I'm especially interested in because 388 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: of the early success they had in the SEC is 389 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: LSU is Brian Kelly and his first full it's really 390 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: his not his first first one will be next year 391 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: when you have that kind of time to build those relationships. 392 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: But when's the West beats Alabama in year one starts 393 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: terribly and things turn around. Jade Daniels has a very 394 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: nice season. What did LSU focus on? I know they 395 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: hit the portal hard once again as they sort of 396 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: overhaul things from the end of the ed Orizon era. 397 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: Where do you stand with LSU right now? 398 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Where do I stand with LSU? You know, I've had 399 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: to come around on LSU because LSU had such a 400 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: good season. I mean, it was an incredible first year 401 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: for Brian Kelly in Baton Rouge. Say whatever I will 402 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: as a scorn Notre Dame fan about his inability to 403 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: manage a quarterback situation or you know, and disingenuous qualities 404 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: that he might have with him as a coach. 405 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: Well, is it a big time place now? 406 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Ty? He's had a big time place and the guy 407 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: wins that. The guy just wins. He knows how to win. 408 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: So in terms of this recruiting class, pretty active in 409 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: the portal, A bunch of guys coming in, it seems. 410 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: In the portal especially, they're very active on defense. There 411 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: are a number of cornerbacks that they brought in, a 412 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: couple of linemen, some edge rushers that can step in 413 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: and hopefully make an impact. But the focus. I think 414 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: predominantly just through the recruiting game was out wide. Was 415 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: out wide. By my account, five or six receivers as 416 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: part of this class, Jalen Brown out of Florida, Kyle 417 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: Parker four star out of Texas. We have other guys here, 418 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Sheldon Sampson junior, four star out of Louisiana, hometown kid. 419 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: I could go down the list here of other guys 420 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: that they added as part of this class, but that 421 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: for sure was a focus. I mentioned defensive back again. 422 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: I harken back to this not as much a focus 423 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: in the quote unquote recruiting game, at least not the 424 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: freshman recruiting game, but definitely something they were aggressive through 425 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: the portal in trying to beef up. So I think 426 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: that tells you a lot about where Brian Kelly wants 427 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: to try and make this team better. He wants to 428 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: focus on adding playmakers out wide, certainly adding some air 429 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: cover through the back. And then if you're trying to 430 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: pick out a secondary focus, you're talking about the lines. 431 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: It's exactly what it did at Notre Dame. It's a 432 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: much much similar model to what it did at Notre Dame. 433 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna add some offensive linem. You're gonna add some 434 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. You're going to try and build from the 435 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: inside out and start there. If nowhere else, start there. 436 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: That was the sustainable model that worked really well at 437 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I'd imagine those efforts in the SEC have 438 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: to be doubled. It is. The SEC is a line league. 439 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: If you don't have a line in the SEC, you're 440 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: gonna get blown off the ball. You're not going to 441 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: win games. Brian Kelly smart enough to know that. So 442 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: that's also why that area was a focus. It's been 443 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: a focus for many of these top teams that we're discussing. 444 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a recurring trend, but 445 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: for sure that is where he focused here as part 446 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: of this twenty three class. This is a really good class. Look, 447 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think third in the SEC, seventh overall, 448 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: sixth overall, sixth overall. So you know, this was a 449 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: really really strong class for Brian Kelly, maybe his first 450 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: like truly full cycle since he stepped foot on campus. 451 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: And it's good to see if you're an LSU fan, 452 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: the kind of work he did here. There's definitely steam 453 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: on on the Tigers. 454 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get a sense for what he thinks, 455 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: and it's not necessarily going to be a twenty twenty 456 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: three thing, but what he thinks the roster lacks. And 457 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: when you look at what LSU was good and not 458 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: as good at doing this season, it was making plays 459 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: downfield consistently, all due respect to Malik Neighbors Kisham Boute. 460 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: And they actually showed up really nicely for a chunk 461 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: of that Georgia s SC championship game. But they I 462 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: think they finished a hunt. You can look at this 463 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: while it's like one hundred and twenty first and explosive 464 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: passing and eighty ninth and explosive passing allowed, and so 465 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: you know, they hit dB relatively hard. I know you 466 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: said that it wasn't a huge priority this year, but 467 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: I think safety seemed to be a priority to lock 468 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: up the back half of that field whoever it is, 469 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: both locally in state and in Texas, and so that 470 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: that gives you an indication of where Brian Kelly and 471 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: his staff think the roster is and where it isn't. 472 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think that's it's a huge and 473 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: it's a it's a huge degree of addressing an immediate 474 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: need right now, and if they can find a guy 475 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: in that list that you mentioned at receiver goes a 476 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: long way this year when you you know you're bringing 477 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: back a sixth year guy or whatever in Jaden Daniels 478 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: and you have the experience you bring back on offense, 479 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: it's you know, chips to the center of the table 480 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: for this passing game right now. 481 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if I'm talking about impact guys that 482 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: can step in, right. So one of the drawbacks if 483 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: we're trying to pick out that name, especially in a 484 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: class that did emphasize to some extent receiver, Suddenly the 485 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: receiver room's kind of crowded, right Yeah, Suddenly you've got 486 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: a bunch of names that you got to worry about. 487 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: The one that I come back to, I think is 488 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. I really like him. He's from Florida. Yeah, 489 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: he's from Miami. He's a guy that has you know, 490 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: gotten I think second third round grades per the scouts 491 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: over at twenty four to seven. Not the biggest receiver 492 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: in the world, but definitely somebody who you know, is playmaker, 493 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: somebody they can put in space, someone that they can 494 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: get some yards after the catch. That type I don't 495 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: know if he'll be able to get a little bit 496 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: bigger as part of being an early en roll lead, 497 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: being on campus earlier strength and conditioning. Excuse me the 498 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: whole nine yards there, But Jalen Brown's a guy on 499 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: offense that I think is really interesting as somebody who 500 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: could potentially step in and find his way. Big name, though, 501 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: I think is Deshaun Woollmack. He was their five star 502 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: edge rusher. He's from Maryland, so it was a nice 503 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: pull to get him to come south. For Brian Kelly, 504 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: his comp's been Bud Dupree from the Towns, So you 505 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: know that. That tells you pretty much all everything you 506 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: need to know about this guy. There is definitely a 507 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: need along this defensive line for for LSU to bring 508 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: somebody in to replace some of the outgoing production, and 509 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: if you can get after the passer, that's going to 510 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: help as well. So he's a guy, just given his grade, 511 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: just given what we know about his skill set, you 512 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: could see him almost being plug and play. 513 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: Pretty nice to have when you return. Arguably the best 514 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: defensive player in the country, and Harold Perkins bring in 515 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: so obviously Matt Howise and Brian Kelly not afraid of 516 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: playing youth on defense, and so yeah, you add him 517 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: to Harold Burke, even if it's just a rotation guy. 518 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes you look at the guys who are coming in 519 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 2: as edge players. They're not going to play a ton 520 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: of snaps. They're not three down guys. But if you 521 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: have a specialized guy on the edge who can say, 522 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: see quarterback hit quarterback on third and nine, and you 523 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: have specific packages for him, it makes a ton of 524 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: sense to get him comfortable. And so yeah, when you 525 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: have the insurance policy of Harold Perkins on the other side, 526 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: pretty good place to be. If everything holds up in 527 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: the back end a little bit better for LSU over. 528 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: The course of the year. Talk to me about Oregon, Dan, okay, 529 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: going out west. I want to go out west because 530 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: Oregon is Orgon is kicking up big time dust, not 531 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: just in the recruiting game with some of the guys 532 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: they've flipped, but also obviously the transfer port has been 533 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: very active in the transfer portal. Feels like Oregon has 534 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: reeled in about eighty percent of the big names in 535 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: the transfer portal so far. So where where does this 536 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: roster stand? What do they need and have they addressed 537 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: those needs? Via this recruiting cycle, either through the portal 538 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: or through you know, freshman recruiting. 539 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: It seems they have it seems to have. The clear 540 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: focus is defensive line. They bring in ten defensive linemen. 541 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 2: I believe defensive line into a lesser extent corner ten 542 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: ten defensive linemen. However, we're categorizing edge players including edge 543 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: type players ten ten defensive linemen. They hit Texas for 544 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: a couple of big names. They hit Arizona for a 545 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: couple of big names. Southern California ten defensive linemen in 546 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: this coming class. I think the headline name is Matteo 547 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: Uyungala lay Dju's little brother aka Young Concrete, Young Concrete, 548 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: Young Concrete, a wonderful nickname. They beat out USC for 549 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: his services. Was a two way player in high school. Yeah, 550 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: and so I think he's looked at as a sort 551 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: of physical marvel who is still trying to hit his 552 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: potential as an edge rusher. And there's not a ton 553 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: of pressure on him because you mentioned the portal. Jordan 554 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: Birch coming in from South Carol line of things, I 555 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: think is expected to get a majority of those snaps 556 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: at the edge position on the Oregon defense but with 557 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: the way Oregon was not able to get a pass 558 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: rush this year, it was very clear that defensive line depth, 559 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: getting pushed inside, getting to the quarterback from the outside, 560 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: from the edge, was the huge priority. The other big 561 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: name is Johnny Bowens from Texas who came on late 562 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: in the process. I think he was an Army All 563 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: American or an under armor one of those, one of 564 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: the All Americans and flashed in practice there and so 565 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: he's got decent size to come in as a rotation player. 566 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, Oregon and you know, Toash Lupoy and Dan 567 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: Lanning are going to have their choice of guys. That 568 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: defensive line roster is deep, and they also return three 569 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: or four or five guys who started a bunch this 570 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: past year, so that's the clear priority. They flipped an 571 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: LSU corner on the previous signing day, Dalen Austin. They 572 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: added a blue chip corner and Roderick Pleasant, who owns 573 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: the California one hundred meter record. Okay, not me anymore, 574 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: not my number anymore, but ran a ten one Roderick Pleasant, 575 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: so they beat USC out for his services. So look, 576 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: the issues last year were tackling and in the pass game, 577 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: on defense, and so they're addressing it aggressively. And so 578 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: even though they took some big swings and it didn't 579 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: work out for some guys on both sides of the ball, 580 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: those could be I mean Bowen's and Mateo could be 581 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: rotation guys, depending on how quickly the fitness is there, 582 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: the ability to read and develop moves against offensive lineman 583 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: is there. On the offensive side of the ball. The 584 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: big one is I don't know if he's still a 585 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: five star. At one point was a five star from 586 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: Northern California. Jury and Dicky about six three, two ten 587 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: two fifteen, and so they lost Dante Thornton, they lost 588 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: Chase Coda, they lost a couple of big names, but 589 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: they hit receiver. They bring in Troy's best receiver as 590 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: well through the portal. So that's a name who I 591 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: think physically could be there pretty quickly from the same 592 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: area where Troy Franklin's from. Who's their clear number one receiver. Yeah, 593 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: they're set at running back the offensive line through the portal. 594 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna be early impact guys. There's 595 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: a JC guy they hit Hawaii for an offensive lineman, 596 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: but I really think it's going to be it's going 597 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: to be dicky and maybe I mean they're thin at corner, 598 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: they're thin at safety. If you remember, Peyton Bowen was 599 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: a commitment for about eight and a half minutes on 600 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: signing day. We'll talk about Oklahoma. So yeah, they address 601 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: things on defense. Those are the two big names to 602 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: me that Oregon and we talked about this. You can 603 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: look up the video as well in terms of what 604 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: Oregon needs to fix. They are aggressively going after those 605 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: guys on defense and selling Dan Lanning and what he 606 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: was able to do at Georgia in terms of development, 607 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: in terms of system, in. 608 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: Terms of Dan Rubinstein's pet player. Oh, this incoming class 609 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: and I'll lump together though, and this isn't a portal show, 610 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: but for the purposes of this specific debate, we'll talk 611 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: about both the incoming freshmen as well as the portal. 612 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: Who are the guys that you are just fascinated with. 613 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: Maybe not the guys that get on the field right away, 614 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: maybe they have to wait their turn a year or two. 615 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: But the names that you've been reading, that you've been 616 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: hearing a lot about as you troll your message boards 617 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: and the ceed under belly that is Duck Nation. Where 618 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: are you at the Dutch Web? 619 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 620 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, where are you at? With respect to just the 621 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: guys that you are most fascinated in. 622 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Dante Moore still hurts TI. Dante Moore to UCLA late 623 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: in the process before the previous signing day. Now he's 624 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: going to be very good for the Bruins eventually. The 625 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: big name to me is when you have the type 626 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: of hybrid type players on either side of the ball, right, 627 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: when you have the linebacker who can be excellent in coverage, 628 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: when you can have the safety who can come up 629 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: and hit on offense. 630 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: To me, it's Kenyan Sadik. 631 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: I believe that's how you pronounce his name correctly. He's 632 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: a tight end from Idaho, was a riser in the 633 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: process and could be that kind of at his absolute peak. 634 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: Right. 635 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: The modern comparison would be like Kyle Pitts, the type 636 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: of tight end who can run like a receiver, and 637 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: so that to me is fascinating. Organ has had some 638 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: of those guys in years past where they become a 639 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: matchup problem, a matchup nightmare, folks, a matchup problem. To me, 640 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: that's the one that's really interesting that he might have 641 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: the athleticism to be special for an Oregon offense, at 642 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: least that we saw last year use a lot of 643 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: two tight end sets. I think there's a little bit 644 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: fewer of those this year with will Stein, but still, 645 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: when you have somebody like that who could potentially be 646 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: a problem to linebacker, safeties, whatever, hard not to get excited. 647 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: So Kenyan Sadik from Idaho is the one that I'm 648 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm extremely hopeful for works out. Let's move over to Oklahoma. 649 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: Let's Oklahoma. This season did not. 650 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: Live up to expectations. You're one for brand Vannerbols was 651 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: a bit of a bix bag, but as I said 652 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: at the top, this was a really strong effort on 653 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: the recruiting trail. Fourth nationally. These rankings, by the way, 654 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: are shifting as we're recording this. I'm sure if I'm 655 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: saying one name or one number and then it's a 656 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: different number a little bit later, please forgive me, but yeah, 657 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: right now, number four on the twenty four to seven 658 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: Composite Charts, three five stars. The big one was Jackson Arnold, 659 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: the quarterback, but he also mentioned Peyton Bowen, who for 660 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: a while was going to Notre Dame until he was 661 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: going to Oregon and ended up at Oklahoma. So by 662 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: a large, pretty strong class. Where was their focus? Just 663 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: out of curiosity? Where where did brand Vennables focus his 664 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: energy here as he tried to build this thing? Brick 665 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: by brick, if you have the sound, oh I do 666 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: have this sound. 667 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: I thanks for teeing me up here. Thank you, brick 668 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 2: by brick In twenty twenty three, defense defense, defense, defense, defense, defense, defense. 669 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: And if you watched Oklahoma football this year, you know 670 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: that there are jobs of plenty of ail this year. 671 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: How about the last five years? 672 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, No, twenty twenty was good, twenty twenty one, twenty 673 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: twenty two less so. And so I'm very much not 674 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: going to tell you. Yeah, they have eleven guys. Between 675 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: what they did on the defensive line and in the 676 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: defensive backfield in this years class, seven of them will 677 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: see the field consistently. 678 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: It's not going to. 679 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: Work like that specifically, but in terms of a high floor, 680 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: you know, Peyton Bowen was the headliner ahead of the 681 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: previous signing day. Notre Dame d commit or can commit, 682 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: Oklahoma commit. They've got an edge rusher. I'm just gonna 683 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: call double A because I don't want to pronounce his name, 684 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: and I've. 685 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: Been staring at this name the entire time. I don't 686 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: want to attempt it. Was you a Diba war A, 687 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: There's no way his name right again. 688 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: It's one of those plug and play situations where he 689 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 2: might not see the field a ton, but in very 690 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: specific packages and situations third and long obvious passing downs, 691 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: you can see somebody like him with the kind of 692 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: burst that he has off of the line making a 693 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: huge impact. The number two edge rusher in the country. 694 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: Five stars, seven foot wingspan, here man, all of us 695 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: great athletes have it. But yeah, it's gonna be deef. 696 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: It's going to be if you saw, you know, the 697 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 2: back half of the defense against Texas against TCU, whether 698 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: it's Peyton Bowen, who I still think has a little 699 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: bit of a ways to go physically, but I think 700 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: his instincts are there to come in and sort of 701 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: level things off at like a center field type position. 702 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to come up and pop 703 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: people in the way that a more complete safety you know, 704 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: at the onset would. But they just need help, and 705 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: they addressed a lot of things on offense through the 706 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: portal andrel Anthony coming in from Michigan, So that's not 707 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: going to be as much of a priority in this 708 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: year's high school class. It just seems to be defense, defense, defense, 709 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: And for good reason, Brent Venable's reputation precedes him with 710 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: a lot of these guys who he has a relationship 711 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: going back to his time at Clemson with already, and 712 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 2: so that to me is going to be the early 713 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 2: impact stuff, And that, to me is if Oklahoma is 714 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: going to improve. It was clearly not just a scheme thing. 715 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: It was a not enough guys winning one on one 716 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 2: battles all the time kind of thing. When you watched 717 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: Oklahoma this year beat up thin, you know, with transfers 718 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: after Lincoln Riley left. But even so, I think you're 719 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: going to see, maybe not this year, but the fruits 720 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: of this year's class really come to play in twenty 721 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: twenty four. 722 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. An interesting metric that our friend Bill Connolly tracks 723 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: is percentage of passes where the guys wide open. Yeah, 724 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: wide open. Now you could dig deep into the end uncontested. Yeah, 725 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: of what wide open means. But by that metric, the 726 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: Oklahoma defense was one hundred and twenty fifth nationally, one 727 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty fifth nationally with guys getting wide open. 728 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: So whether that is a function of the line not 729 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: getting pressured into a great job getting pressure either or 730 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: if it's just not enough guys, not enough talent in 731 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: the secondary, it could be a combination. It probably is 732 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: a combination of both. But that's a very telling stack 733 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: and obviously something brand Ventable's is trying to address here. 734 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's interesting about Oklahoma and this is nothing 735 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: new because going back to Bob Stoops, they were able 736 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: to do it as well. But this isn't a program 737 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: that's just going to rely on Texas and Oklahoma and 738 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 2: Arizona and the surrounding areas. They do a pretty good 739 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: job extending to California. They up to they weren't to one. 740 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: We went up to Washington this year. They went into 741 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: Florida obviously, given the roots of some of the coaches 742 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 2: on staff, and so it makes a ton of sense 743 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: that they would. I mean, they're not going to finish 744 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: with the top five to six class every season, but 745 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: it's definitely a clear example of plenty of open jobs, 746 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: come play, come play early. Oklahoma's going to the SEC, 747 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: so they're going to be on an even bigger stage 748 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 2: in the short term that they'd be able to recruit 749 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: like this. So good for Brent Venables, good for good 750 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: for the Sooners. The future is right. And that's not 751 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: even to mention Jackson Arnolds from Texas. And you know, 752 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: there are corners of the quarterback recruiting world that feel 753 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: like he might have the highest ceiling, especially considering you 754 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: know what receiver looks like moving forward, what Jeff led 755 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 2: He's done with quarterbacks and offenses these past few years 756 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: with Lane Kiffin and at UCF. So Jackson Arnold appears 757 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: to be that kind of He's thought of in a 758 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 2: pinpoint way, and so the future extremely bright, especially since 759 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: he's not thrown to the fire this year with Dylan 760 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: Gabriel coming back. I think Oklahoma is in a very 761 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: very good position to be a team that doesn't necessarily 762 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: see huge changes in the win loss column this coming season. 763 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: They're going to be going in a bowl game this 764 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: year for sure, but you're going to see, oh, they 765 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: just blew out a team we know is decent, and 766 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 2: that's not necessarily what we saw last year. 767 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: Where do you want to go next? 768 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: I guess we'll pair Oklahoma with Texas. I'll just keep going, Yeah, 769 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 2: that's cool with you. 770 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: I would love to hear from Texas. So the big 771 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: name is arch Maning, arch Manning number one overall recruit, 772 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: arch Manning going to Texas. Maybe you can speak to 773 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: some extent about what that means for the quarterback room. 774 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: Obviously Hudson card leaving, m quinn Ewers is still there. 775 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: That could be interesting as we get into fall camp. 776 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: But you know, I think the book on Texas is 777 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: kind of out right, like we we had a pretty 778 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: good sense for what Texas was this past season. Definitely 779 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: still falling short of expectations, but I feel like the 780 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: vision became a little bit clearer this season with Steve Sarkisian. 781 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: It seems like Texas got better in some respect, maybe 782 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: took steps steps back in some others, but in general, 783 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: I think if you're a Texas fan, you can start 784 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: to see the light a little bit. It feels like 785 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: this thing is getting better and the recruiting class is 786 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: very strong. Recruiting class was three overall. You know, Sarka 787 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: is obviously putting in the hard work there, But where 788 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: are we at with Texas? How do you feel in 789 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: terms of optimism about how this class adds to any 790 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: momentum they established last year. Everybody seems to recruit well 791 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: at Texas, Mac Brown, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, Steve Sarkhion 792 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: for good reason. 793 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: Right, it's the premiere program. Apologies to Texas A and M, 794 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: but it's the premier program in the state and it 795 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: attracts a good amount of talent. This year's class is 796 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: no different. Arch Manning is an interesting case study because 797 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 2: and Brandon Huffman talked about this last year when we 798 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 2: talked about the quarterback dominos, and obviously on the first 799 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 2: signing day it's arch Manning didn't test himself against other quarterbacks. 800 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 2: He was not an illegal, Elite eleven guy, he wasn't 801 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: a camp guy, he wasn't an All Star game guy, 802 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: and so played at a small private school. 803 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: In New Orleans. I think it's Archbishop Newman. 804 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: And so we are relying on a sample size of 805 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: games and projections based on lineage, and so he is 806 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: not going to start this year because starting this year 807 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: would mean going to Tuscaloos in week two. If I'm 808 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: looking at the schedule correctly, I don't think they're going 809 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: to throw a true freshman into that kind of fire 810 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: in his second week. It's the first year of I 811 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: think Byu and Houston are on the schedule. Quin Yours 812 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: needs to get better, but this is not about quin 813 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: Yours there I think if quin Yours is better in 814 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: second halves and the offense is better in second halves 815 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 2: and there's more pop outside consistently, because we saw it 816 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: with Xavier Worthy, but kind of at times he's beat up. 817 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: He kind of disappeared for stretches, the offense disappeared for stretches. 818 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 2: The story with Texas right now is how far the 819 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 2: defense has come and they lose a number of key pieces, 820 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: especially upfront. The linebacker is going to be a little 821 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: bit of a new look. 822 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: Good news. 823 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: They bring in the number one linebacker in America in 824 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 2: Anthony Hill, and so again, I don't know if he's 825 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: ready to be a three down type guy. It's kind 826 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: of impossible to see him not being in some sort 827 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 2: of rotation if the fitness is there, if the understanding 828 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: is there, and you're not the number one linebacker in 829 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: the country without fitness, without understanding, without the ability to 830 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: have to utilize your instincts for the better as a linebacker. 831 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 2: Is the liability and coverage as a freshman, probably because 832 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 2: all linebackers are ty. All linebackers are The other early 833 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: impact guy I could see just because of the what 834 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: the depth chart looks like. Is Cedric Baxter a bigger 835 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 2: running back? Oh ye, with both Roshawn Johnson and be 836 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 2: Shawn Robinson. Moving on to the NFL im. 837 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: Glad you mentioned him because I was going to ask 838 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: about that running back spot. 839 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: Yes, the size is there. I imagine from what I 840 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: can tell from watching highlights that because of the way 841 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian likes using running backs in the passing game. 842 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: You go back to Najie Harris and last year of 843 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: course with the duo of backs at Texas. If he 844 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 2: has soft hands, if he can run, you know a 845 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: few different routes. He might not just be a checkdown guy, 846 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: but I could see him getting carries given the nature 847 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 2: of the room right now, so he would be the 848 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: one on offense. They have a five star receiver in 849 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: John Tay Cook, but he seems a little bit smaller, 850 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 2: kind of a smaller slot guy and going after Ady Mitchell. 851 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 2: I just I think he is probably going to be 852 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: more developmental as he gets bigger. But you know, if 853 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 2: he is, if he is can't miss as a talent. 854 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: Size doesn't matter. They're just in a it seems to 855 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: be with Jordan Whittington coming back in a better position 856 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: at receiver right now that they're not going to have to. 857 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: Rely on youth. Yeah. I mean, look, anyway you slice 858 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: this up, the fact that they finished third is a 859 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: pretty big deal. And you know, there was definitely an 860 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: emphasis here on key areas where they need to get better. 861 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: I love Anthony Hill. I have read all year about 862 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Hill, and it feels to me like to your point, 863 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: he's somebody who could step in right away and make 864 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: a pretty big impact. Same deal with Cedric Baxter. The 865 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: size is there, obviously, the acclaim is there. At one 866 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: point I saw a comp to Joe Mixon. Okay, I 867 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: want to say taller for Cedric Baxter, which is obviously 868 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: a pretty good comp coming into college. So you know, 869 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: you just hope that Sark can cont ttinue organizing the 870 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: ship and in year three get things more on the 871 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: straight and narrow. Yeah. 872 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: The other big name is Malik Muhammad, local to Dallas, 873 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: and given the success of Washington Corners with Pete Qwickowski 874 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 2: there and you know, really succeeding in that system has 875 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: decent enough size. I don't know if he's going to 876 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: play a ton as a freshman with somebody in the 877 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: next couple years. To keep you an eye on. 878 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: On next episode, it's going to be big ten and 879 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: Big ten adjacent heavy Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, USC 880 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: coming into Yeah, Yeah, coming soon, coming into yeah in 881 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: a world coming in very very soon. And of course 882 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: Penn State my alma mater. Five more teams to discuss 883 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: on our next episode. We appreciate everybody stopping on Buy 884 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 1: don't forget to go on out to Verballers dot com, 885 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: don't forget to email us at sliverable at gmail dot com. 886 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,439 Speaker 1: Let us know your thoughts. We'd love to hear your 887 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: perspective on some of the schools that we discussed with 888 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: respect to National Signing Day Part DUX and which programs 889 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: address their needs the most, Which players you could see yeah, 890 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: building those rosters brick by brick. Is that where your 891 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: brick by brick? Yeah, So let us know, uh, for 892 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: that guy there, my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, 893 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: Ty hilder Brand, thank you so much for downloading, listening, 894 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: supporting the show. As always, we will be back next week. 895 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid, peace,