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Speaker 2: I'm strong and Getty one more. We're recording this on

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Speaker 1: It's been a difficult day for all of us.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, they were just they just did a thing on

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Speaker 2: So apparently things worked out for him pretty well financially.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a bit of a checkered life.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, here's a joke we did not play on

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Speaker 3: Now infamous interview making the rounds, Hunter Biden said that

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Speaker 3: for example, harvesting, processing, and selling him cocie. Hunter also

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Speaker 3: said he thinks of Kamala Harris as family, promising that

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Speaker 3: But he also says that he loves Kamala like his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, which is pretty good. That's a pretty good one.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good dig right there.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a super good dig right there. That was

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Speaker 1: So to my introduction, just walk through the lobby. I'll

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Speaker 2: Here's why I would agree, which is interesting given how

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and some of those lawsuits ended in a

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Speaker 1: It was literally one of those I thought this was America.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Uh So, I've got a couple of friends who

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Speaker 2: That was the biggest travesty of on all And they

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Speaker 1: it's got to be a legitimate exchange for use of

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Speaker 2: So you've got some of the stuff that you know,

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Speaker 2: Just bad decision making to me, ending all the rivalries

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every year the team is completely new through the transfer.

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Speaker 1: So, for instance, before every Tennessee home football game last fall,

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Speaker 1: They organized. Wow, They're there to literally hang out with

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Speaker 2: on the basketball team. And I mean, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the threads that connect you know, if I watch

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Speaker 1: college football game or basketball game, the threads that connect

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Speaker 1: that to the university and traditional college sports are fraying

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Speaker 1: and disappearing in a hurry. I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it becomes then, but right now

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Speaker 1: it's merely an exercise in sub major league tribalism. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Why would I wrote root for well, you say this

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Speaker 1: of major league sports too. Why would I root for

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Speaker 2: People do?

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Speaker 1: Because the way people are made, including me, apparently.

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Speaker 2: I can use my my family is kind of a

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Speaker 2: or is, because there's still is into Kansas basketball as

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Speaker 2: they ever were, and all this stuff is occurring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so interesting and has very little to do with sports.

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Speaker 1: So I hope if you're a non sports fan you're

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Speaker 1: still listening. Thank you very much. Well, I guess that's it.