WEBVTT - New info revealed on Brewers offer for Tarik Skubal amps up debate, Mariners plan for Kade Anderson 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.280 Yeah, that's what he said. 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:02.320 That's what he said. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.600 That's what he said. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:05.760 That's what he said. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.040 All right, let's roll up our sleeves for another fight, 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:15.440 shall we. The battle of ft against certain Brewers fans 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:20.080 that are always waiting for tomorrow continues. The latest story 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.560 comes from our friend Adam mccalvey from MLB dot com, 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.120 who did some great work finding out more in terms 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:31.920 of the offer package for the Tigers when it came 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:37.360 to the Brewers initial offer. According to mcalvey's story, three prospects, 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.080 all hitters, at least two were Top one hundred prospects. 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.560 Luis Payana was one of three prospects included in the offer. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:51.440 Well liked, super speedy. He said. The Brewers believe they 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.960 made a strong offer to the Tigers for Schooble, maybe 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.640 stronger than what the Dodgers offered. And then we start 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.600 playing the rankings game, and I know is going to 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.960 love this right And also it depends on the publication. 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.920 So mccalvey works for MLB. MLB has their own prospect list. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.759 For example, River Ryan's number sixty eight on that list, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.360 AJ and many others. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.960 Twenty eight years old. He's twenty eight years old. I'm sorry, 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:18.080 he's twenty eight years old. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.200 Sorry, the Brewers are not going to trade Jesus made. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:26.520 He's number one, and nobody is faulting that. No, The 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.240 debate comes to, was there a package that could have 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:31.319 still landed this guy? 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:32.240 Right? 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.240 If it's Luis Payne against all your Hope and then 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.360 the Dodgers feel like they have the edge there because 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.319 the Tigers like him better, that's their right. You need 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.920 to start looking at the next set of things. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.679 I think the reason they like Hope better than Payne 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:46.640 was because of the power. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.680 Yeah, there's definitely power. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:50.600 I think there's more upside and he's more of a 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.040 high risk, high reward player. For me, Pain is going 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.760 to be a big leaguer, He's going to have speed, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.720 he's going to be a contributor there. But Hope has 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.160 a chance to be a star and has a chance 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.920 to not work out. It's how it looks okay. Other guys, 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.160 for example, there's a lot of debate about someone like 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.680 Jet Williams. Jim Bowden doesn't think he should be anywhere 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.119 near a top one hundred. He's already been traded once. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.320 He's seventy six on MLB's list. Maybe he was included 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.480 in the Tigers agreed with Boden and they're like, we 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.920 don't like him. A lot of this gets to semantics 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.000 on who it could be in there. Here's the part 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:24.359 that I'm reading. If the Brewers traded away a starter 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:32.720 like Logan Henderson, Trek Schouogl was theirs, I think that's 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.000 the determining sticks. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.240 Fans are saying Logan Henderson is better than trek'schoole. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.160 Then that's fine. That's your decision. And if that's how 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.240 you feel, that's okay. If you need another whatever it is, 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.840 four years of Logan Henderson, who is a very good pitcher, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.839 then that's okay. But that was the guy that would 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.320 have made the separation. I don't think anyone's debating that. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.520 If they said, hey, we've got Pinya here in Hope 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.360 a little bit higher. But if you include Henderson, we 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.320 like him much better than the other pictures on the 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.960 other side, that gets the deal done. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.120 That's the decision that probably came across. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.000 I made the decision they made. Listen, but we're not 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.720 mad because okay, I'm not mad because they that schoob 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.200 Ball went to the Dodgers like that's the Tiger's right 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.280 to choose. I just as a fan of baseball, would 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.120 love to see the Brewers have done it. We talk 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.440 about this all the time on the show. Every once 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.440 in a while, I just go for it and they 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.160 and they didn't want to give up Logan Henderson, that's 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.120 the Brewer's right, right. But I'm more of a Hey, 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.040 I'd like to win one World Series than just make 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.960 it to the playoffs every year and never win. Like cool, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.200 you made the playoffs cool, which is really hard to do. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:34.880 Right. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.000 That's where I think my frustration has come in, and 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.080 people are like, oh, he hates the RS. I love 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.720 the Brewers. If you know me, I love the Brewers. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.000 I love Matt Arnold, I love Pat Murphy, I love 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.800 the Brewers Stadium. I loved going there. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:45.400 It's great. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.920 Okay, So don't don't put those words in my mind 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.680 because I've never said that, But as a fan, I 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.680 would have liked to just have seen him go. And 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.440 we talk about this all. We talk about the Rays, 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.520 we talk about some of these smaller market we just 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.080 say the Orioles all the time. Man, those years, they 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.800 needed to take that next step, and they did. I 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.400 guess with Corbyn Burns didn't work out. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.280 Yeah, but my problem is twofold. We'll get back to 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:07.680 the plays. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.680 Okay, let's go back to the Corbyn Burns. The players 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.440 they gave up to the Orioles or to the Brewers 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:15.280 for Corbyn Burns. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:19.960 How are they doing Joey Ortiz and dal Hall. Yeah, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.760 I'll take Corbyn Burns, thank you. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.960 I don't. I mean, Joey Ortiz has been a fine 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.120 he's he's a serviceable big league player. He's not a 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.080 special player. Deal Hall has been in and out of 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.520 the pitching because he's hurt. I think there was one 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:34.440 other guy in that deal. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.720 But corn Burns reason why stars get paid so much money. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.200 It is a free marketplace, and the industry says these 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.320 guys are worth so much more than everyone else. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.200 That is how he and then the other thing they 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.840 brought up was the two thousand and eight uh c 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.520 CC Sabbathia trade. Okay, CC got him into the postseason. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.479 Legitimize the Brewers because they were bad for a long time. Relegitimates, 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.719 really relegitimize the Brewers as a big league for Okay, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.679 sure they lost in the first round, Okay, that's a crap. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:04.040 Shoot. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.640 Fine, But then they were like, oh, the guys we 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.760 gave up, you know, we had to give up Michael Brandley. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.479 Michael Branley was the throw in. Matt Laporta was the guy. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.080 The other guys in that trade were the guys that 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.479 they thought were going to be so good. Michael Branley 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.920 was literally the throw in. He just turned out to 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.240 be really good. That's why these rankings and all that doesn't. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.279 I mean, I was never on the top one hundred list. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.960 We had joke with JJ Cooper all the time. Yeah, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.280 we're nineteen years in the Mazet' never made any of 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:28.839 those lists. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.279 You didn't have to trade Jesus Matte to get this 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:31.880 deal done. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.480 It's a fact it is. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.680 There was a prospect package that would have gotten this done. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.520 Adding more right, Oh, we included three hitters, and two 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.240 of them were in the top one hundred. Okay, well 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:44.720 there's another one in the top one hundred. You might 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.159 have had to add him. You might have had to 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.039 make it for you. You might have had to add 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:48.839 remember Anderson. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.200 There was a combination that worked that would have gotten 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.080 you over the top. That wouldn't have killed your franchise forever. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:55.359 This was your schoogl for. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.440 CSI go ahead, you go, and then there's four types 0:05:58.480 --> 0:05:59.920 of Bruis fans that I want to lay out. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.720 So I remember this. I remember two thousand and three offseason. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.000 I got traded to the Giants. Okay, the night before 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.640 I got traded, or the day before, I got a 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.840 call from La Troy Hawkins, but he said, you're going 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.600 to the Cubs. You're going to be traded to the Cubs. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.520 Dusty called me about you and he said, you know, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.200 I love you. I want you to come with the 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.720 Cubs of me. Okay, the next morning I wake up. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.040 I was traded to the Giants. Why because at the 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.600 last minute it was Joe Nathan Booth Bonser and they 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.040 threw in Francisco Lariano, who at the time was an 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.520 a ball guy. Nobody knew who the heck he was. Okay, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.880 they threw him in the Cubs. Whatever their Cubs package was. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.200 The Twins are like, screw that, we're going to take 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.520 this package. Well, the Giants really wanted me at the time, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.880 so they threw in that extra player that got it done. 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.440 If you want to get the deal done, you want 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.599 a player. About it up, There is a package to 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.200 get it done. I'm sorry, and that's the way I 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:47.800 look at it. If I'm a GM and there's a 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.160 I use the Red Sox. They really wanted Adley Retchmand. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.359 They threw in their top two pitching prospects and said Orioles, 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.560 go get them, Tigers, go get them Orioles, because we'll 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.520 see what happens. But we really want Adli. Fine, if 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.400 that's your progative. Is a GYM, mat Arnold has a 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.080 right to say no to this. And Scott Harris has 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.600 a right to pick this prospect package over this prospect package, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.960 and he chose the Dodgers over the Brewers. That's his right. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.920 It's fine. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.640 For parents looking for a new path to help your 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.320 child succeed this year, there's still time to enroll in 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.400 K twelve Powered online schools. 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Okay. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.360 One set of Brewers fans said, we could not have 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.320 landed this player. They did not like our prospects. We 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.160 could not have gotten Schooble. This Macalvey report proves it. No, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.160 it doesn't he's laying out some of the players that 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.160 were put in this proporm one. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:52.080 But how does he know that? 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:53.520 How does he know? 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.400 Well, the team tells him this, Oh okay, and then 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.480 on the play. I don't think the team's lying, but 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.280 people are like, see this proof. It's been an hour 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.200 of FT and you haven't shown that. You're wrong. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.240 Guys, they could not have landed Okay, So we're reading 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:07.040 the article wrong. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.080 Let's read through it together. We should do a live 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:09.800 session where. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.680 Books aren't as great as the brewers think they are. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.520 That's fine, but still they could have gotten him. So 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:15.120 that's number one. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.040 That's one set of Buruis fans that's say, no, FT, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:19.760 we could not have landed him. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.040 That's false, that's fiction. That's one. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.839 Number two is the set of Buris fans that say, 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.360 Logan Henderson un till I die. I'm not trading Terrek 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.000 Scouble for him. That's fine, that's your choice. I would 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.360 have gone the other route. Many other gms would have two. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.040 That's two of them. Here's the other two. One set, 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:37.960 what are we doing why didn't we get Terrek Scouble? 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.040 We've never won a World Series? 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:39.520 We love you. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.800 Here's another set. Last set, which I think is very interesting. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.640 We didn't get Schooble. I value them for trying, But wait, 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:52.280 hold up, Dustin May? Okay, where was Clay Holmes? Where 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.840 was Robbie Ray? Where was Casey Mice. I hope that 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.960 the organization's right that Dustin May is better than all 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.280 of these guys, because if we're huffing and puffing, we 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.400 have the best prospects in the sport, and we didn't 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.120 get Schooble. Why didn't we get one or even two 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.160 of these other guys that could start a playoff game 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.520 for us? I better not be watching bullpen games every 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.200 day in October. That's the other subset of Bruce fans 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.080 that are pissed right now. I'm over Schooble, but what 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.240 happened on Monday? I got two bullpen guys that I 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.760 think I'll like, But are we just going to be 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.280 bullpenning our way through October? And they did at some 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.960 point miss and bullpen. They're gonna get wrecked at some point. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.760 If it's bullpen day every single day. You can't do 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.640 that every day. Some teams have won with like two 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.960 starters three starts. You can't just win with MS and 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.880 or Harrison. I don't think. I hope I'm wrong. I 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.760 hope I'm wrong. I want the Bruis doing the World Series. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.079 They've never won one. Usually we're all rooting for the 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.439 team that's never won. If you just don't have any 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.640 dog in the fight, you want to see a team out. Yes, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.040 even in twenty sixteen, you probably were like, Nope, no, okay, 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.840 I was never gonna go there. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.360 Those words will never come out of my mouth. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:55.400 I was not. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.640 I was rooting for Cleveland. I'll admit, I freely admit that. Nope, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.520 that is one million percent true. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.720 I took a bad turn. But so what do you 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.160 think about the four four where you are yes? But 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.840 the problem is the first two that you said that 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.280 are so negative. I'm just attacked, you know. I don't 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.480 even go ahead, No, it's fine, it's fine. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.240 I just love when they're like, well, these guys were 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:19.080 backwards hats, so they're stupid, Like it's like automatically that's 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.560 their argument. It's like, what are you talking about. I 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.959 can wear my hat forward, I can wear my yeah, 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:25.240 I'll wear my half for you know. I don't wear 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.440 wear a hat backwards because I don't want to show off. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.000 Show off crats with my glorious locks and crats. So 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.120 if I if I didn't, if I didn't have such 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:34.840 good hair, then it's my fault that I wear my 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:35.440 hat backwards. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:35.800 Crats. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:38.800 I could care less that I wear my hat backwards. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.800 I don't care less than I'm bald. I wear a 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.760 hat because it was something cool. When we started the show, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.360 I had like one hundred and eighty six different hats 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.040 that I was gonna wear, So bald really doesn't matter. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.679 I'm going to add a fifth set. And it's on 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.160 the fan Brewer fans that I don't like, the ones 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:59.120 who are like, this is a conspiracy. He wanted to 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:04.480 go to the Dodger. All they were doing was just saying, oh, Derek, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:05.920 where do you want to go? Oh? You want to 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.360 go to the Dodgers. Okay, this is the thousand percent 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:15.120 the Brewer or Major League Baseball making them trade him 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.440 to the Dodgers. That's what this was. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.600 I don't wait, no, you just wait yeah, hold up, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.720 no no, no, no, no no, this needs to be 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:23.120 cleared up. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.720 You just brought up two different scenarios. Nope, nope, you 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.800 brought up two scenarios in one not fair. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:33.520 Ready, there is the contingent of owners that think, you 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.280 know what, it's not the worst thing if Terry Skoogle 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.679 ends up on the Dodgers and they just sweep through 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.080 the playoffs and win it. That's different from a team 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:41.800 asking a player where he wants to go. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.000 That doesn't happen. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.240 And I actually saw that from many people commenting on 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.320 baseball like, oh, well, you know how it works. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.760 They ask the player where he wants to go. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.720 I was like, since when they do that when the 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.520 player has a no trade clause, because they have no 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.320 control if they don't have a no trade clause, they 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.520 do not check with the player and say, we're getting 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.080 a worse offer from the Dogs, but I heard you 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.480 want to go there, so we're going to be nice 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.640 to you. The Tigers are pissed at Schooble, not like 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.880 for what he's done, but they wanted him there and 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.880 they can't come up to terms. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.680 They're not like, oh, let me make sure it's a 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.559 cushy landing spot for him. That's ridiculous. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.560 I agree, that's that I've seen, though I've seen that. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.840 What Yeah, you've you've seen teams talk to players about 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.440 where they want to go. This was not one of 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:22.040 those situations. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:23.679 No, no, yes. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.480 Usually though, it would be a guy that's late in 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.000 his career, it's getting towards the end, and they'll say, hey, 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.800 we have a chance to trade you to A or 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:32.720 B is. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.760 Yeah, but the deals are similar. That's not when you're 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:36.800 the top starter. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.920 They didn't go to school LA and they're like, okay, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.800 you're going to LA no matter what they offer us. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:44.400 I know Harris, isn't that dumb. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.000 No, he's not that dumb. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.560 He liked the final offer that he got from the 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.679 Dodgers better than what he got from the Brewers. I 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.400 guarantee you if we sat down with Scott Harris and 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.600 said we're they're three were they're four players on the 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.520 Brewers aside from Jesus Mane in the organization that would 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.760 have landed you Brewer's package versus Dodgers package. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.760 He would have said yes. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.679 And this is not this is not just a one 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:16.600 way street. The Tigers say hey, I would like this guy. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.680 They do it all in tiers. Hey, we feel like 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.320 trek Scuble is worth this tier one from this tier 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.320 one from this tier, and each team evaluates each of 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.000 those differently and for everybody who's like, oh, actually, do 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.240 some have some ball knowledge, Actually do some research. We 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.640 do a ton of research, and the only name that's 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:41.160 come out is Louis Pana. Everything else is conjecture. There's 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.880 no other. When Scott says Jet Williams, that doesn't mean 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.520 Jet Williams was in it. We're talking about other hitters 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.720 that are in the top one hundred. That is it. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.000 There's no like. So unless you say Louise Pania, no 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.680 chance we're getting Trek Scubel to get rid of Louis 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.920 Pana like it's the only real name. There is no way. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.280 It was a different package. The package was liked better 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:12.800 by the Tigers from the Dodgers. There, that's it. There's nothing. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.160 If the Pots the Brewers wanted to get it done, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.280 they needed a better package. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.160 Hope, to me is the key the Tigers sink. Hope 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.480 is going to be a stud That's what it came 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.240 down to for me. And listen for all the people 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.760 saying River Ryan had a one point three to three 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.520 ERA when he was healthy. He's been in the big 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.080 leagues one time, okay, and that year he had a 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:35.080 one point three to three ERA. In twenty innings, tony innings. Okay. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.840 He also walked nine in twenty innings. Okay. Now this 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.480 year in Triple A he is three and one with 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:47.840 a four point four six ERA, thirty six innings, forty 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.400 three strikeouts. Okay, fine, he's also twenty eight years old. Okay. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.400 And then the other thing is we all know who 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.360 Logan Henderson is. To stop saying we don't know who 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.000 Logan Henderson is. He pitched really well last night for 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.600 the Brewers. I've watched Logan Henderson pitch. I've done a 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.440 game where Logan Henderson started the game. He's a really 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.280 good pitcher. But I'm just gonna ask this question, playing 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.760 and simple to all you brew fans out there. Would 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.560 you rather have miss and Logan Henderson or miss in 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.200 Trek's schooble pitching against a playoff series? Playing pitching in 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.320 a playoff series? If for as you're one two, that's 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.440 that's the simple question. And if your opinion is Logan Henderson, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.120 then I'm proud of you Brewer fans. You got Logan Henderson. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.880 But for this year, if your answer is Trek Schoogle, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:29.680 then you make the deal for Terrek School. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.120 Yeah, very simple that's it. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.760 That's that's that's it, that's all of it. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.640 And also I still think there was a world where 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.760 Henderson didn't even need to be included and they still 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.440 could have come up with the right package. Would it 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.040 have had to potentially be four or five guys, maybe. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.840 But that was your choice. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.000 And Brewers fans still coming after me about all of this, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.720 have not answered the question of do you hate Robbie Ray, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.880 do you hate Casey Nice? Do you hate Clay Holmes? 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.080 Do you hate Jose Soriano? How far down do we 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.560 need to go? Do you hate Trebbor Rogers? 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.320 Right? Should we just keep going with players that were 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:00.000 not at it? 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.040 I don't know. I'm done talking about this. They didn't 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.080 get them, and I'm tired of fighting with people that 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.760 that are keyboard warriors. So congratulations Burus. I hope you 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:09.560 win the World Series. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.800 And for Burrs fans that don't care about this year 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.240 as much, I really really am rooting for you in 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.080 twenty eighty nine, I won't be here, but I'm rooting 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:18.359 for you. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.439 I think the Brewers still have a chance, Just to 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:21.920 be honest. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.560 I do they definitely do what I'm saying. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.000 We're not saying that everything's. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.560