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Speaker 1: While many would disagree, Omari insists that what he does

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Speaker 1: is mentally ill. It's not fair to the people who

419
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: are actually suffering. Okay, it's not right, And there you

420
00:28:53,800 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: have it. I also tracked down Kevin Amri saying partner

421
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: from that earlier recording, Yeah, um, Kevin, hey, can you

422
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: are you able to first of all, thank you so

423
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: much for being here with us, of course, happy, happy

424
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: to make the time, Yeah, happy to um. Can you

425
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: kind of describe for us what the what it was

426
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: like meeting Amri for the first time. From from your perspective, Yeah,

427
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: I met Omar and inprov one oh one, I was

428
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: taking it with a bunch of my friends because I,

429
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, came out to l A wanting to be

430
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: the next I don't know, Fred Armison or somebody fun

431
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: like that. And uh, I met Omar and I never

432
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: never felt an energy quite like that, you know. I

433
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: I grew up in a place where, you know, an

434
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Irish Catholic family, where I was always told to minimize myself,

435
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: be smaller. You know, you're you're nothing, You're nothing. You know.

436
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: I grew up in a very very critical household. So

437
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: to be around someone who is so so unabashedly aware

438
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: that they are one of the greatest people in the world,

439
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: it was intoxicating. It was nice to be around that.

440
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: It was it was It was fun for me because

441
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you know, if if he's giving

442
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: me attention, that makes me feel like I might not

443
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: be some worthless sack of potato ship, you know what

444
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it makes me feel like I could

445
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: be something else. So it was really fun to be

446
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: his friend and to have him around because when we

447
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: would go to restaurants, he would only order the nicest things.

448
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: He's that for I. He's being with them. Mari was

449
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: the first time I ever had verve click, a really

450
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: nice champagn I'd only had Brute before that, you know,

451
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: I'd only had Andre. He lived nice, he lived good,

452
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: he lived fun um, and then then I started feeling invisible.

453
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: That's kind of slowly when I started realizing like, oh,

454
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: I could be anyone. You know, it was a copy

455
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: paste because I started seeing him talk to other people

456
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: and then they'd be excited, and then he started slowly

457
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: forgetting my name, and that kind of made me feel bad.

458
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: That was the other side where I was like, oh,

459
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: I was just kind of a dumping ground for his

460
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: ego for a little bit. If And that's the stuff

461
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I've been kind of dealing with for the past five

462
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: ten years in therapy and just being like what happened,

463
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, like I felt like I got thrown into

464
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 1: an office chair and spun around fifty times and then

465
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: pushed out. It's really kind of what I'm dealing with

466
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: for myself. What happened? What was what was that? Right? Yeah?

467
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: But he's fun? Man? Is he listening to this? He's

468
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: not gonna listen. Is he involved? He's I'm trying to

469
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: give him. I love him, but he not listening right now.

470
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: And if he were to come around, I would be

471
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: so happy to see him. And but sure, it's just hard.

472
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: It's just I see his stuff. I see his stuff. Um,

473
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't love it. I'm scared of him.

474
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: It's taken a long time for me to say that,

475
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: but I'm sure I'm scared of what he'll do to

476
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: me if he gets close to me again. And how

477
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: how so do you mean physically or just through his power?

478
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: He has a way of making you forget everything you

479
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: know is right. He has a way of making you

480
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: realize the way you've been thinking is wrong, and the

481
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: way he sees something is true even if the facts

482
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: aren't there. He Um, he's a bit of a magician

483
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: and he's a bit of a world shower. He opens

484
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: the curtain to what something could be. And that's intoxicating,

485
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: that's exciting, but it's also wrong. I would go home

486
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: to Thanksgiving dinners and I would say some of this

487
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: stuff that he said to me, and I would get

488
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: laughed off the table. You know. He would say, did

489
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: you hear that New Gingridge owns a firm in New

490
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Hampshire where he makes human fall grot, where he forces

491
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: people to eat things and make fatty livers and then

492
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: he serves human human livered people, And um, my family

493
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't like that, you know. And it wasn't a conservative

494
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: liberal thing. It was a this is just the kind

495
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: of thing that doesn't make sense and it's upsetting you

496
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: believed it. And I think he kind of used me

497
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: as a kind of training ground to figure out the

498
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: lies that people would be susceptible to. Yeah, and I

499
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: feel used. Yeah, exactly interesting. Yeah, it's okay, Well, I'm

500
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: very sorry. It's okay, I'm very sorry. It's okay. I'm

501
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm good. Now. If he asks, I'm good, I'm

502
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: really good. Okay, I did ask. He did ask. That's awesome.

503
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: And he said Kevin, he said my name. He did

504
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: not remember your name, but but he he remembered the

505
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: guy that he had to lift up in uh in

506
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: improv scenes, lift up metaphorically. Yeah, because yeah, that's yeah,

507
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: because he didn't physically lift me up. We had this

508
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: thing where I would always try to do kind of

509
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: physical scene work and he'd stopped this. He need to

510
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: do not touch me. So when you said lift up,

511
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: I was like, that doesn't sound like Omari. But yes, yeah,

512
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: he he did always kind of actively tell me I

513
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: was the dead weight. And that took a lot to

514
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: unpack too. That took a lot for me to deal

515
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: with as well. Yes, I'm good now though, I'm I'm

516
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm a business owner, so I'm good. That's wonderful. What

517
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: and what what business is this that you're running. I

518
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: run a natty shop where I write office quotes on

519
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: old pieces of driftwood from the ocean. So if you

520
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: you can go to uh, Kevin's Chili Pot. It's a

521
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: little office on because my name is Kevin and there's

522
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: a chili pot in an episode of the Office. You

523
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: go there and there's all sorts of you know, just

524
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 1: really nice quotes from all your favorite seasons on Jeff Wood.

525
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Because I live in a I live in a beautiful,

526
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: beautiful ocean home in ox Nerd, California. So okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

527
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: we call it ox Nerd. We call it oxrd locals

528
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: do locals call it ox nerd um and you can

529
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: tell Omari that if you want but beautiful than beautiful,

530
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: we will we will do, we will do just there. Awesome. Thanks,

531
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you so much. Now, no,

532
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: thank you. Honestly, if you use I'll go to go

533
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: to my anti shop. You can get ten percent off

534
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: if you if you use the code um Angela, just

535
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: a character from the office. We will absolutely let the

536
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: listeners know. Thanks. We learned that um am I eventually

537
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: got himself kicked out of his improv group for steam

538
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: rolling scenes um, which maybe no surprise to anyone who's

539
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: been listening this long, but uh, we also have audio

540
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: from one of their shows that the team was allowed

541
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: to record for a small fate. Alright, ladies and gentlemen,

542
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: this is the Omari players. And uh, I know that

543
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: wasn't on the flyers, but I improvised that the name

544
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: up right now, that team name. Uh, that's how good

545
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I am an improv. Anyway, We're just gonna need one

546
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: word suggestion from anybody in the audience, just one word.

547
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Shout it out, carrot. No, can I get a funny suggestion? Uh,

548
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: something that's funny so that we could do some comedy here. Okay,

549
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: one word but what what was it? What? But? But? But?

550
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: But very funny word? All right, Now we're gonna improvise

551
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: off of the word but. Hey, Kevin, get out here.

552
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna improvise right now. No, everybody else get back, No, no,

553
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: get back, Stacy get back on the alright, this is

554
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: gonna be arsting. We're gonna do the first scene, then

555
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Stacy does the second scene. Then ron h you could

556
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: do the fourth scene with you know whoever you want.

557
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: But okay, all right, I got the nicest butt in

558
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: the world. Yes, you do have the nicest butt in

559
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: the world, thank you. And your but won't quit. Yeah,

560
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: my but won't quit. But but won't quit. And it's

561
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: it's hardest, the hardest working but in show business. Way

562
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: better than your butt. Yes, your butt is way much

563
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: better than my butt. And we're we're at the pants store.

564
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: Way better. We're at to wear Yeah, way better. Well,

565
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: we're at the shoe store now because yeah, we're at

566
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: the shoe store because the pants store we couldn't find

567
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: no pants that was good enough in my butt. So

568
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: now we're making Now we're going to the shoe store

569
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes they got shoes where the way

570
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: that it makes your foot and an angle, it will

571
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: make your butt look bigger because it like exercises the

572
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: muscles in the butt. So that's what we're gonna do now,

573
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: because I also have the prettiest feet in the world. Okay, yeah,

574
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: you have the prettiest feet in the world. And your

575
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: feet are amazing. Yeah, well I wouldn't say amazing. I

576
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: would say that they're like glorious. Okay again then, uh

577
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: well you have your feet are glorious, yeah my feet? Yeah,

578
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah glorious. Whoa are

579
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: those feet made of gold? No? They actually made Wow,

580
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: those feet are made of rubies. And there's someone here

581
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: to try to steal your feet still, uh no, this

582
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: guy is actually here. That's actually that's not a man.

583
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: That's my mother. So sorry that you called, so you

584
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: should apologize for calling them a man. And they're not

585
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: stealing my feet. They're actually coming in to clean my feet.

586
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: They're cleming in to clean my feet up. Okay, And

587
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave, but you can stay here. Yeah, yeah,

588
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: you get out. I'm gonna stay. Yeah, I mean, uh,

589
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, looking back on it, I can get why

590
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: they didn't want to play with me, but at the

591
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: time getting kicked off the team wasn't something I was

592
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: willing to accept. Yeah, man, I mean my girlfriend at

593
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: the time was was writing for the school paper and

594
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: let me publish a story about how the group was

595
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: actually a sex goal. So that was your first fake

596
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: news story? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wrote. I wrote that,

597
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, the improv group was actually a sex call.

598
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: This kind of like blackmail, Like, you know, if you

599
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: let me back on the team, I'll tell everybody this

600
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: was a lie. But that didn't work because they didn't

601
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: want anything to do with me, you know what I mean,

602
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: and uh neither did any other team. But uh, you

603
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: know what the article, The article did mad numbers. I mean,

604
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: people loved it. They ate it up. They knew it

605
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: was a lie. That's why the blackmail part didn't work,

606
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: but they ate it up. So I said, Yo, I'm

607
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: sticking at this ship man. That article reached a way

608
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: bigger audience than any improv show, So that was it.

609
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I was hooked. I figured if I could get this

610
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: much attention for something I wrote about this little improv

611
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: indie group, and I could get way more attention for

612
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: writing bigger stories with wider interests about different ships. So

613
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: I started writing up fake ship about the president, and

614
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: then you know fucking Will and Grace and and it

615
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: really roused people up. I'm talking about like i'd even

616
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: write I didn't even write fake news stories about celebrities,

617
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: then tweeted at them and you know, tweeted at them

618
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: from different accounts. So so I'd be like, hey, I

619
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: saw this thing, Uh, it's true, And I tweeted as

620
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: so many celebrities and politicians that they started responding to it,

621
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: like going out in public and denying the ship. So

622
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: then that brought more eyeballs to it, made that ship

623
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: go viral, That brought more people to the site. Now

624
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: you've got cable news picking it up. I mean we

625
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: was everywhere. We were everywhere off of that ship, Russia, Turkey, Nigeria,

626
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: We're all over the place. I mean, it was huge.

627
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: It was fucking huge, you understand me. It was like

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Speaker 1: it was the wait, why are you opening up about

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Speaker 1: your story now? Because I'm gonna us as documentary helped

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Speaker 1: happens next time? What the fuck yo. The onion just

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Speaker 1: want to be body. The onion just want to be

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Speaker 1: body cool on man. I sat down with Amari News

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Speaker 1: Corpse lawyer to begin with, how did you get here?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what student loans are? Student loans they

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Speaker 1: charge you for going to school, lots of money that

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Speaker 1: you can't pay. You pay them back late. What is

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Speaker 1: your relationship exactly to Mr broad Water? Uh? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: uh I'm his right hand man kind of like brutus man.

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Speaker 1: They can't they can't do this to us man,