WEBVTT - Mental Health Check-Up 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:08.680 I just want to start this off by saying it. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.119 I am having a very bad day today. Today is 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:16.239 just not a great day. Does everyone else? How's everyone 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:16.920 else feeling? 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:22.880 Well? Not wonderful because today it's very rainy in Los Angeles? 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.479 Really, and I got my booster yesterday, so I'm a 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:27.960 little bit I feel like I want to. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:28.360 Go light out. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.000 I've heard so terrible. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.200 It's about the same as the second, my last one. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.640 It's about the same, which is I'm somewhere between great 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:37.400 and terrible. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:38.920 That's thanks Easton. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:40.680 I'm good. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:40.960 You know. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:42.720 I had that booster like a month or two ago. 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.400 I was fine, baby, I was. I don't think they 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.320 gave me the right one. I think I think they. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.280 I'm just trying to get I'm working on it. Don't 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.920 look at me that crazy. I'm almost there. I'm taller 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.240 than whom everyone was here before. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:56.960 How are you, Catherine? 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.720 I'm good. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:02.000 You got that microphone figured out there? I hear you can. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.319 Yeah, the listener is going to hear that too. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.319 I'm doing it before we start. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:12.120 Well, we're actually started, Okay. I told you I'm in 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.679 a bad mood clearly. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:18.720 What's the genesis of your bad mood? 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:19.720 You know? 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:27.760 I received an email I think by accident, and it 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:33.200 bothered me because it was someone spending money from my 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.080 past and I just felt like annoyance and just and 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.280 then some things happened after that, and then I just 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.240 I just I just I just am just a lot 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.480 of emotions came up of a resentment and annoyances and 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.840 I'm getting rid of like this like work bench thing 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:56.640 that he spent a lot of money on, and it 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.240 was like never, it was never. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.120 I don't know, I mean, I don't even. 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.400 I know it's hard to talk about, but I think 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.400 all of us know exactly what you're saying, and I 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:05.880 understand how frustrated that would be. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.800 Yeah, but I did hear did you say that me 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:10.840 and Ryan had a connection? 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.120 You know, I feel that there was a vibe there, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.320 there was something. There's a nice back and forth happening 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.640 with Seacrest. Yeah. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.760 I was on the Sea Crusher, which I was actually 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.280 really nervous about. Did I did I sound nervous? 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.040 You did not seem nervous. No, really, you didn't know, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.480 you seem you seem great, You were great. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.440 Oh, thanks but there was great. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.960 There was a nice back and forth banter, but I 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:32.880 didn't feel a connection. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.480 No, no, well hey, well the drawing board. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.760 No, we're good. Yeah, but anyways, I missed you guys. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.720 You guys have been gone a few shows. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:47.679 Ish. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.320 It's tough. Your schedule affair is always changing. It's hard 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:51.880 to keep up. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.760 Yes, happy to be here today. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:59.480 Well that's good, very blessed to be here. I'm being serious. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.320 I love you any moment with you as a treasure. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.799 Oh there's so much sarcasm in that. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.720 I he's just sucking up to you, does it? 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:12.840 Okay? I have a question. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.280 Can we talk about gifts for a second, because the 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.200 holiday season is coming up and. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.840 I Catherine just said I'm. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.800 Really hard to buy for which I really And here's 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.680 here's here's the thing. Let's just say that you're starting 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.400 to let me let me just do you like to 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:30.359 get gifts as a man? 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.640 Easton Mark go. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.320 Receive them or buy them? 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:34.880 Both? 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:37.040 Yeah? 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.240 I like to get them more than I like to 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.920 buy them. I guess so if I'm being honest here. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:46.280 Yes, I enjoy receiving gifts. It's great. I'm not great 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:47.240 at buying them. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:53.480 Okay, I will defend men in this one, okay, because 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.280 I think it's really really hard to get it right. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.840 I think you're you can You're intent can be good, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.560 like getting shoes, for instance, But are you really gonna 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:04.640 pick out the shoes that you're. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:05.920 Really gonna wear? Want to wear? 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.280 And are you really gonna keep them and wear them 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.400 if they get the shoes that you don't like. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.840 I've never returned a pair of shoes. Are you gonna 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.920 wear I've always worn them. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:18.800 I don't believe you. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:25.360 I'm gonna buy you someware don't purposely by the shoes. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:31.840 I Why am I so hard to buy for? And 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.440 you're to have to say this, beast, I truly don't 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:39.279 want anything. Having said that, why are you looking. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:39.560 At me like that? 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.120 Because that's not true. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:47.280 I just I like to say I mean it. I 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:51.440 want something meaningful, like you know, my last Christmas is 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.839 like there was. It's like I like to give a 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.919 lot for Christmas to the person that I love. So 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.920 when I receive a the day and Amazon pens back, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:04.479 it can be a little hurtful. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.920 Well, the answer to your question about why you're hard 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.400 to shop for is one is because you are so 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.719 giving with gifts, So there's there's a lot of pressure there, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.320 I'll be honest. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.000 Yeah, it raises the bar a lot. That's one. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:24.120 Two, Like you do have a particular style or a 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.640 particular any girl, any girl. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.760 That's hard. Like that's why my husband stopped buying me 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.400 because I. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.840 Took everything back, like you said, like if I didn't 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.880 like it, I'm not going to just keep it and 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.839 waste the money, like if I'm not gonna wear it 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.400 or it sits in the closet. I don't like hurting, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.400 like I like to pretend like I like it. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.920 Oh, I pretend because I don't want to hurt his. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.440 Face because at least he tried, you know. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.520 Like I remember one year Mike got me like the 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.599 ugliest shirt ever, and I was like, oh. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.960 My god, I love it. You have to pretend, but 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.240 I love it so much. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.640 I could never tell someone I don't like their gifts, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:55.760 like I just I can't. 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.280 I think that men men are have more of like 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.599 a they have more stuff, their stuff, you know, like 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.679 like Mark Mark likes the Brewers, like I like Captain America, 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.400 Like like men don't grow out of that boy thing, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.440 and women have much more just a much more discerning 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.039 palate when it comes to the things they like. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.160 Because we're children, because yes, because. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.680 Men are children and women are full grown adults that 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.560 like exist in the world. And I think that's why 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.720 it's it's easy to buy for men and harder to 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:24.240 buy for women. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.440 That's some navoys thought about. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.760 Yeah, sure, I think I get that, But I also 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.800 I feel like it is it a fantasy to just 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.360 be like on Christmas morning to open this like beautiful, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.640 little like delicate piece of jewelry and be like, oh 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.080 my God, thank you and you didn't have to ask 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.240 all my friends and. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.800 Like, well, no, I mean I don't think it's a 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.120 complete fantasy, but for it to be the perfect exactly 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:50.120 what you wanted. 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:51.960 But it's the thought that counts. That's the thing. Like 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.719 I don't care actually what it is. It's like the 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.240 thought and the intention behind. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.440 It, which I think you mean, But I think the 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.360 pressure on the other end is getting it right. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.600 Interesting, Like I was even dressed about the necklace I 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:02.960 got for you. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:04.920 I love it and I really. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.320 Genuinely do, right, but you actually do, but like you 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.400 might not think. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.480 The prettiest, little daintiest and it's like it's all like 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.280 at the end of the day, like it's just like 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.200 write me a beautiful letter and frame it or like 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:17.560 things like that are so sweet. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.080 But I'm just saying, what girl doesn't like a little diamond? 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.960 You are there, so do we want diamonds or shoes? 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.480 Anyways, we have an amazing guest in the uh uh 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:33.240 the waiting room, Jesus, I like with the waiting room. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:34.880 We're going to bring her on and we're going to 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.960 talk about mental health because it needs to be talked 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.840 about more so, and then we'll get back to this 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.200 Christmas combo because a certain someone texted Catherine asking for 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.440 a gift idea for me, So stay tuned. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.040 All right, Hey, Mandy, how. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:00.840 Are you, lady good? 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:01.320 How are you? 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.120 I'm Janna. This is my co host and best friend Catherine. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.000 Hey, how are you? 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:06.800 Nice to meet you? 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:08.680 Nice to meet you, Nice to meet you. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.680 I feel like you have just joined us on the 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.920 perfect day because I woke up in just a funk, 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.680 like a total frickin' funk, you know, just one of 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.040 those days where we're just like, you don't even like 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:21.880 there's like things that are bothering you. But at the 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.400 same time, it's just this like blanket over you. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:25.600 You know. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.280 Oh yeah, I get that. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.040 I get that a lot where you just feel like, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.439 uh and there's no reason to be like uh. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.240 Like there's like maybe a little pieces, but it's like 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.120 it's like that shouldn't be bringing me down to like, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:38.440 you know, depression town. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.320 All right, well, let's perk you up there. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.720 I know, I know, but I but I was, you know, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.600 I was so excited to have you on because I think, 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.840 you know, what you guys are doing are is incredible, 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.080 and I know I know that it's launching. Wonder Mind 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.280 is launching in February, So could you just kind of 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.800 give a synopsis of what it is to our listeners 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.679 and and what's going to be on Wonderland wonder Mind. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:07.280 Yeah, wonder Mine is basically we're creating the first mental 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.680 fitness ecosystem, which for what that means to us is 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:17.160 we're going to cover all media like daily content, podcasts, film, 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:21.000 and television, but we're also going to create tangible product, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.960 so instead of it being an app, it's something that 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.040 will kind of disconnect you. We are thinking about an app, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.080 but I can't like say for sure if that's going 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.800 to happen. But like tangible products, So what would a 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.080 mental health aisle at target mean and what would it 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:41.120 look like? And for example, with a tangible product, I 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.520 like to use ADHD because that's what I have, And 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.240 but they give you these big, bulky timers to keep 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:48.000 you focused. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.400 So we're going to create like cool little. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.880 Dice so that like kids will carry them, you can 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.680 put them on your desk. Nobody's going to ask you 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.840 what it is, and so everything is going to be 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:01.120 We're building. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.160 Our advisory board, We're going to work. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:09.440 With neuroscientists to create new content and not like necessarily 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:14.080 new verbiage. We're gonna stay aligned with like everything that's 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.400 already been scientifically proven, but also kind of pushed those 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.679 boundaries to, you know, with with the proper people because 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.240 none of us are professionals and we're not here to 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.760 diagnose anyone. We're here to kind of go on that 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:32.520 journey of learning how you make your mind your mindset, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.280 that you're more unique than defective. Because people like to 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.080 think as a mental illness. If you're diagnosed with that 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.240 it started back with it used to be religion. If 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.640 you know you had mental health back in the seventeenth century, 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:54.719 you're demonic. Then you know, the eighteenth century became like unhygienic, 0:10:55.280 --> 0:11:00.200 and so there's always just been this like stigma on 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.280 it where people don't really want to like talk about 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.760 it because also the media ourself has played a role 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.120 in kind of like showing the darkest side of mental 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.040 health with things like Girl in Erupted or One Who 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.360 Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.000 So I feel like trying. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:22.120 To detach some of the apps and some of that 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.560 to build an outside community where we're really touching like 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.160 each other one on one and in person. We want 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.360 them to be able to talk about it. So, like 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.880 our first podcast will be called two and eight, which 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:42.080 means State of Mind and Cockney, And we're just going 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:48.240 to have conversations with anybody and everybody about like daily. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.240 Routines or something. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.920 They may want to talk about how they overcame something, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.360 but we're not going to like put a label. If 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.040 someone wants to say, yeah, I'm diagnosed by polar that's 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.600 their right, but we're not going to push it and say, oh, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.400 we'll have you checked out like this or you know, 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:10.439 We're just going to have honest conversations to where. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.240 Where people see that even if you have. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:18.640 A diagnosed mental health illness, that you are not broken 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.000 and you can't have a fruitful life like it's going 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.400 to be a journey. It's never going to be fixed. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:29.520 So let's how do you exercise your mind? And my partner, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.880 Danielle as she uses a great metaphor that when you 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.360 are working out and you have a personal trainer, you 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.840 can't not work out the rest of the week, otherwise 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.920 you're not getting that six pack. So your therapist is 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.640 your personal trainer. And some people can't afford to go 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.120 to therapy more than once a month, So what do 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.600 you do in between? And we want to provide some 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:54.439 of those tools that will be free and accessible because 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.480 we also want to reach the underprivileged communities that don't 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.040 have access to any of it and where the government 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.160 kind of wants to keep it like out because then 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.920 the prison systems are going to fail if all everybody 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:11.200 starts getting you know, their mental health aligned. So you know, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.480 that was a long answer to what mental fitness means, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.360 but it's just becoming part of your daily routine. And 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.560 all of our stuff is going to be done through 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.320 creative Like our journal is a creative journal. It's not 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.680 this morning I woke up failing five. My goal is 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:31.120 to fill ten because there's so much toxic positivity and 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.559 toxic happiness that you know, when you are dealing with, 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.320 like say depression and you've never dealt with it before, 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.880 you could get it can get misconstrued to where you 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:46.800 feel like your your you're you know, you're wrong, or 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.400 you're bad or and then you watch other people just saying, oh, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.800 breathe five times and you're going to be okay, And yeah, breathe. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.520 Breathing is helpful, but that's not going to fix a 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.240 long term, you know issue you may. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.480 Have for sure. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.880 Yeah, what what is the thing that helps you? Like 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.400 they're you know, like for me, like with my physical fitness, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.240 like I love to run, that also helps my mental 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:17.400 fitness too, Yes, but what's what's the thing that kind 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.440 of is like is your top that helps you with 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.840 your mental fitness? 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:26.680 Putting my phone down, not looking at social media? And 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.720 you know, I I try to. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.680 I try to just like read books. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.360 Or find like go into my bedroom and kind of 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.400 relax or meditate, and you know I I do. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.200 I am blessed to be able to have therapy once 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.400 a week and you know, uh. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:51.200 CBT DBT cognitive behavioral therapy, where you know, there's there's 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.120 this one thing I learned when I went away to 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.680 treatment that it's a balloon. And so every time you're 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.560 mad at someone, you like draw a picture of that 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.000 person on the balloon and then you pop it and 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.880 you just keep blowing that up and popping that, and 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.760 then eventually the anger goes away and then you could 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.760 make more like decisive decisions on how you're going to 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.840 actually approach that person. So it like, you know, it's 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.160 like the screaming and the pillow, but it's actually a 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:18.800 lot more fun to pop on with a needle. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.480 Yes, I need that so badly, Like that would be 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:29.280 that would be fantastic. Something else you said too with 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.040 the your ADHD that could the time or the counter thing. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.960 Sometimes I've noticed, like today I even noticed that like 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.600 I kind of got into like a depressed state and 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.280 was you know, I had so much to do and 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.920 I literally just like stared at my computer screen for 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.760 like and stayed in it for like a good few hours, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.000 and it was like mindlessly like doing stuff. But like 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.480 I just was like and the entire time I had 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.560 was like get up, like get up and go do 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.480 what you have to do, or like either I get 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.160 up do something, you know what I mean, and then 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.400 I but if I could have something that was just 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:09.840 like you know, I sometimes think of Mel when she 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.800 she's Mel Robins Robins, Yeah, when she's like five four 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.880 three two one, get up, like go and it's like 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.560 sometimes I have to like do things like that, but 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.520 that something tangible like that would be really great to 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.640 like help in those moments. But I just I love 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.080 it because I especially when when you're when we're on 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.960 social media and or the internet or whatever, it'd be 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.440 nice to have a place where you're actually getting things 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.560 that are helpful and not things that are triggering more 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.600 of the stressors and the triggers and the depression and 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:40.320 all that stuff. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:46.040 Yeah, I think I think simplifying it is like, you know, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.360 I'm not talking about like professionals that are aligned trying 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.680 to make change. I'm talking about, you know, more of 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.880 the armchair therapists. Like you know, I've I was misdiagnosed 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.720 bipolar and just found out in my forties. I'm actually 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.480 eighthd with trauma, so I know everything there is to 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.240 know about bipolar. But I'm relearning how my brain functions 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.800 really as ADHD. So I think like when you know, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.120 I use this example all the time, but like when 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.159 you do the go on the YouTube and these people 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.160 are just like pretending to be a therapists and it's 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.000 like five tips he's a narcissist. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.639 It's like those are all five tips of me. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:31.080 And I don't feel I'm narcissistic. I cry, I have emotions, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.760 I have empathy. Like, so I think that as kind 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.439 of really we need to take back the language. We 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.360 need to take back the verbiage and kind of like 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.000 gas lighting is so thrown out there, like and do 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.479 some people really know what gas lighting is? Or you 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.280 can't say someone's a sociopath? You know, It's like we're 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.479 all diagnosing each other. And so what I feel is 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.120 what we can do at Wondermine is just all kind 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.199 of talk to each other and and you know, like 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.840 all of us are gonna be honest because we're three 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.240 different women from three different generations that have our own 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:13.080 successful businesses prior to this, so we wanted to That's 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.000 why the entrepreneur was so important to us, because we're 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.399 showing you can have a diagnose mental illness and. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:22.920 Still live a fruitful life. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.399 You Still it's not I'm not saying it's going to 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.760 be easy, but I feel that that's what some of 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:32.080 these armchair like therapists do, is like, oh, like if 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.960 you just go out and meditate for ten minutes, it's 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:39.480 a combination of getting a routine together that can actually. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:40.400 Help you. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:46.840 In other forms. And so, like we with with kind 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.520 of the app situation, we have done some discovery that 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.679 the reason why some of it like falls off is 0:18:54.720 --> 0:19:00.920 because there is no physical or verbal interaction, and so 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:05.720 we want to kind of go back to where you know, this. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.760 Is a child's dream come true. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:11.080 But like back in my day, they would like people 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.120 would just show up at your house and you would 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.560 just all hang out with your family and everybody was welcome. 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.240 And now today, like it just seems the more and 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.520 more social media, the more and more enclosed we're getting. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.800 And when you already have a mental health diagnosis, you 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:30.760 already feel isolated. So now this isolation that we're all 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.080 experiencing on top of you know, already feeling like no 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:39.720 one understands you is so dangerous and it's that's that's 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.320 where the toxicity comes in. And we just want to 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:47.680 share our stories and grow with our listeners, grow with it, 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.880 and like just you know, may may everyone know that 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:53.200 you're not broken. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:53.960 You're not. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.000 If your religion is like, oh, you're you know, a 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.960 demon when we need to do an exorcism. There's so 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.320 many like barriers that we have to get through that 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.480 our first agenda is just like, let's chill, let's talk, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.040 let's build these tools that you're not ashamed to use. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.880 And like our journal I already said it was kind 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.840 of creative or whatever, and but we're going to work 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.240 with neuroscientists on creating all of this content of how 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:28.040 you may not even feel and you're enjoying working your mind. 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:30.879 It's such a good point you brought up earlier about 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.679