1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: what's up. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: It's Laura la Rosa and this is another episode of 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: the Latest with Laura l Rosa. This is your daily 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: of the conversations that shake the room. 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Baby. All right, So checking in behind the scenes to 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: the grind. 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: I told you guys that we were ripping, we're running, 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: we were going, We're getting ready for a lot of 13 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: things this week. Still in the motion, in the mix 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: of that, I'm currently coming to you guys from Delaware 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: right now. 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: I came home. 17 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: I came home to just make sure things was cool. 18 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Grandma had a small procedure, but she came up out 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: of it strong. 20 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: Everything is good. Getting older is crazy. 21 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: I know. We talked about this a bit on a 22 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: previous episode because the roles just really reverse. I like, honestly, 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: this was a in the morning, out by evening type 24 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: of outpatient. For those of you guys who don't know 25 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: the difference. Outpatient is like where you come. They do 26 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: whatever they're going to do procedure wise, and then you 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: go home, and patient is where they have to keep 28 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: you overnight, monitor you all those things. So normally things 29 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: that are like you know, less invasive or like just 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: just smaller of a procedure, smaller of a process, are outpatient. 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: So you're there, you get what you need to get done, 32 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: and you go home. And that's what she did. 33 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: But because I'm typically the person that like will talk 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: to doctors on her behalf and follow up medicines for 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: her and just just you know, all those things, it 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: just made her more comfortable for me to be here. 37 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: And I realized today that. 38 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: We're really over the hill when it comes to like 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: the roles reversing, like my mom. So my grandmother was 40 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: just in like the what is it called, like the 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: recovery area where they they you know, they put you 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: in this area where you like rest for a bit. 43 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: They monitor you to make sure that like the medicines 44 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: are wearing off the way the shit, like all the things. Right, 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: So my grandmother is there, my aunt is with me, 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: So I'm taking my uncle and my mom. I'm dropping 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: the back off because it had been there on morning 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: while I was at work. We kind of switched off 49 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: shifts and when we were leaving, I was just you know, 50 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: talking to the nurses and asking questions about, you know, 51 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: how the medicine, how she was reacting to the medicine 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: and different stuff. And I was on the phone while 53 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: I was doing it, and my boyfriend like as I 54 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: was leaving out and he was like, yo, you are 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: like such a great granddaughter. 56 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: Like I know she is happy you are there. 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: And in that moment, it wasn't about the compliment, like 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate the compliment because child leave it to my grandma. 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: She will tell you, I'm too busy. I'm always on 60 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: my phone. I don't spend enough time. It was more 61 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: so like for me, I was like the realization moment 62 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: of like, dang, Like if I wasn't here right now, 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: it's literally me and my brother and so you know, 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: he's running around. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: Today's my niece's birthday. 66 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: He's running around like a chicken would have said called 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I'll trying to make sure that he has everything straight 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: for that. He also works, and then I'm getting off work, 69 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: switching shits with my mom checking on him. 70 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Like we're literally like the new adults, Like this is 71 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 2: so real. 72 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: Like I was having a conversation about medicine, dosage, post 73 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: care for her, trying to come up with a plan 74 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: in my head of like who's going to be with 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: her for these next like forty eight hours to make 76 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: sure she does take it easy, doesn't drive because I 77 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: also have to get back to work. But then my 78 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: brother has to work, and I'm like, yo, we really 79 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: adults out here. It's crazy when it just hits me sometimes, 80 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: like it will randomly just hit me and I'll be like, 81 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: I am grown. This is crazy. So today was one 82 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: of those moments. But yes, my mom is fine, y'all. 83 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: So thanks to everybody that like sends up prayers for 84 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: her and all of the things. I knew that she 85 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: would be good. I think it just, you know, gives 86 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: her a sense of comfort that we're all there, especially 87 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: in her older age, she's always overwearying about certain things. 88 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, but let's get on into the latest because speaking. 89 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: About us being the new adult, now, this conversation has 90 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: been going on for the last like forty eight hours. 91 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Y'all have been screaming at your phones on TikTok, typing 92 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: up a storm from substack to Twitter to threads because 93 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: to Ski University updated their being of various clothing items 94 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: or their dress code on campus. And they're talking about 95 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the fact that bonnets and do rags are not allowed 96 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: in classrooms and cafeterias. Right now, I'm going to read 97 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: to you guys how this all started. 98 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: There was a letter that was sent out. Where is 99 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: the letter? Let me get the letter. 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: There was a letter that was sent out by administrators 101 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: at Tuskegee. And I want to preface this with saying 102 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: that this is not uncommon, yo. Like when I went 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: to Delaware State University, that was like you learned in 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: your like your freshman year of college. I don't know 105 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: if it's like this at pwi's, but at HBCUs you 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: have something like I don't know what every school calls it, 107 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: but most schools will call it like a freshman seminar. 108 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: And it's basically like an etiquette class. It's like a 109 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: life etiquette class, like speaking of being the new adult. 110 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: That class is like, yo, you hear you grown? Make 111 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: it the class on time? Dress you know appropriately, welcome 112 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: to the new world. It's about professionalism. Let us remind 113 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: you now, go off, be great, enjoy your four years. 114 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: So these dress codes and various things are not new 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: like I know on like so like if you had 116 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: business seminars certain days, you would have to dress. 117 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: Up at school. 118 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Like there's always been religiously like there's always been dress 119 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: codes on HBCU campuses. So I don't know why everybody's 120 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: freaking out about this. People just don't listen. People just 121 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: don't do it. People still are gonna wear do rags, 122 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: People still gonna wear the bonnets. I don't agree that 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: you should do any of that when stepping out the 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: house around people. 125 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: I think do rags are a little bit different for 126 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: the boys. 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: Because they also like throw y'all know, y'all put hats 128 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: over them and hoodies and stuff like that. 129 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: Girls, Nah, I never was. 130 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I never was jocking the scarves in class, the bonnets, 131 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Like I don't even feel right 132 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: walking out my house and getting my car that way 133 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: unless I have a hood on. But so, there was 134 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: a letter that was sent out from the new Tuskegee president. 135 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: It said, they're Tuskegee University students. We're excited to welcome 136 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: you to Tuskege University next month, as you arrive at 137 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: an extraordinary time in the university's history. Tuskegee has entered 138 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: its renaissance era of transformation and renewal, and we were 139 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: expecting a thirty two year new student en Roman High 140 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: in August. I love to see HBCU celebrate that because 141 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: I still remember today when I was telling people that 142 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: I was going to a HBCU and they were like, 143 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: for what, Your degree isn't going to mean anything. And 144 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: now all of these HBCUs are celebrating record high attendance 145 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: levels because HBCUs are just becoming the destination as they 146 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: should be in they'll shape being black people into these beautiful, 147 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: well rounded people who go out into the world and 148 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: just eat it up, beat it up, beat it up. 149 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: But the letter continues to Skegee is focused on challenging 150 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: you academically with resources to ensure graduation while preparing you 151 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: for the workplace. You're required to find internships in their 152 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: area of interests. You're required to find internships in your 153 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: area of interests. Identify certifications to enhance professional skills and 154 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: develop a resume. 155 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: There are more than thirty certifications. You can get it to. 156 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Skegee at no additional colls. You must also visit the 157 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: university's Career Center. In Kenny Hall. 158 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 159 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: So they go through like a bunch of different things, 160 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: student policy, all of that, and then they update on 161 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: what the dress code will be. So they say to Skei, 162 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: students now have a dress code with a busy I'm 163 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: sorry to skeget, students now have a dress code for 164 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: public and professional places. The student handbook requires students to 165 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: arrive on campus with a business suit and a proper 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: pair of shoes for business meetings. 167 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: Again, that was so standard at my college. 168 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Students are prohibited from wearing revealing clothing in class. Maybe 169 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: you be neating that, especially on like a Thursday when 170 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: everybody's trying to go straight to thirsty Thursday at the class, 171 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: to the cafeteria, or in official settings like convocation. 172 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: Convocation is typically like. 173 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: What I was telling you guys about, like those big 174 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: meetings where they bring like the whole suit and body 175 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: together and you're having a dress up. Oftentimes, if the 176 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: school has like a big, like religious based building, so 177 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: whether it's like a church on school campus or a 178 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: chapel or something like that, it happens there. If not, 179 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: it happens in like one of the bigger student centers. 180 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: They continue they're. 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: Also not able to wear bedroom shoes, bonnets, or do 182 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: rags the class or the cafeteria. Now it says that 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: the goal here is not meant to restrict you from 184 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: enjoying the Tuskegee experience, but to prepare you with a 185 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: solid foundation for the workforce you will enter once you 186 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: leave Tuskegee. Employers are less forgiven and too often presentation 187 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: over rural stellar preparation. 188 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: That is the point of going to an illustrious HBCU. 189 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: It's all about shaping you for the world and how 190 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: the world views you as a black person, as a 191 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: black professional, and as someone who is stepping into it 192 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: to take over it. Like literally understanding the etiquette and 193 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: the nuance of navigating each room and time and place 194 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: and all of those things. That is the genius of 195 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: going to in HBCU, because not only do you learn, 196 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: and I think when you when you move out, Like, 197 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like to commute to college. 198 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: I've never community to college and so I can't speak 199 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: to that, but I can speak to the experience of 200 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: living on campus. So hbc you were not living on 201 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: campus as a student like you talk about the new adults. 202 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: It really grows you up. 203 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: You learn so much about presentation, about you know, being prompt, 204 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: about dealing with when you're not prompt, when you're not 205 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: on time, about bill pay even at a small level 206 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: of it's just yourself on bill, you know, making sure 207 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: like eating and and setting a schedule for yourself discipline. 208 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, friends, like just everything you learn so 209 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: much about. It's like a trial one to conduct your 210 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: real life living on campus at a HBCU. It is 211 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: all of that, but there's also this like understated, like 212 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: they don't even have to say it, even though they do. 213 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: They're very intentional at HBCUs about telling you what they're 214 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: prepping you for. Why so that you're aware and that 215 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: you can understand who you are and how you're walking 216 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: into the world. Things like this are just to keep 217 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: you sharp. Now, there are a lot of people that 218 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: are upset about this. I saw Essence in Essence. They 219 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: have like a college platform that they do call Essence 220 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: Girl or not college, but it's like younger, it's like 221 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: gear toward, like the younger women of Essence. It's called 222 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: Essence Girls United is for like gen Z and millennials, 223 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: they call them. So they did like this whole kind 224 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: of like an op ed breakdown, and they talked about 225 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: respectability of politics. Right, so, reactability politics, they say, it's 226 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: coined by historian Evelyn Brooks, and it was coined in 227 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Evelyn Brooks Higabotham in nineteen ninety three. Respectability politics refers 228 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: to a set of beliefs that suggests conformity to prescribed 229 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: mainstream standards of appearance and behavior can protect members of 230 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: marginalized groups, particularly black people, from prejudice and systematic injustices. 231 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Respectability politics place blame on groups already impacted by discrimination, 232 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: rather than addressing the systems that create inequality. 233 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: Right, so then they continue. 234 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Respectability politics acts whether we look at respectability enough. Liberation 235 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: acts why respect has to be earned in the first place. 236 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Black excellence has never lived in a dress code. It 237 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: has always lived in our brilliance. The challenge is deciding 238 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: whether presentation is a part of preserving that legacy or 239 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: policing it. Now here's what I have to say about that, 240 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: Black people, us, my people. I understand, you know, when 241 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: it comes to things like dress codes and you know 242 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: all of that. I think that there are certain things 243 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: done in certain places to keep certain people out there 244 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: are certain things that are put on you know, these 245 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: the marginalized groups that Essence is speaking about, because they 246 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: want to remind us of what we don't have, or 247 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, the difference, or just that there is a 248 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: way to be viewed different because of how we dress. 249 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: Right, Like, all of this stuff is like silently. 250 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Reminding us of things that they want us to look 251 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: as different to a point where we can't operate in 252 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the same spaces, which is completely not true. 253 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: But I think whether you're black, white, or brown or green, 254 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: it's just. 255 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: Certain ways you should not come out of the house pajamas, 256 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: had scars, bondus. 257 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: It's just a no. 258 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: Like, I don't think that this is one of them 259 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: things that we make all about race, especially not coming 260 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: from our people. 261 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: It would be I mean, and even I was gonna say, it. 262 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: Would be completely different if this was a white school 263 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: telling students that and specifically singling out black students, I 264 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: would understand that. But even then I would say, you 265 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: ain't supposed to be outside of that stuff anyway. Now, 266 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: I want to read to you guys some of the 267 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: responses to this from Essences Breakdown, Dragonfly Jones on I 268 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: believe this is Twitter, says, I promise you when it 269 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: was class presentation day or job fair, everybody on campus, 270 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: everybody on my HBCU was showing up dress and extremely professional. 271 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: These kids know when it's time to get starched. Increase. 272 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: Who gives an f if they're wearing pajama pants to 273 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: a Tuesday class at eight am? 274 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: And even that. Let me talk to y'all for those 275 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: who have not. 276 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: Ever experienced in early class on the campus right or did, 277 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: like I get it, especially if you out the night 278 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: before or you up studying, doing homework or anything the 279 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: night before, because again you're learning discipline. A lot of 280 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: times you are rushing to get the class, but you 281 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: throwing a hoodie, you throwing tight, you throwing a pair 282 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: of jeans, a T shirt, sneaks. 283 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: Like pajamas just was never like, I. 284 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Don't I don't know anybody who just would want to 285 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: be out in the public in their pajamas unless your 286 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: pajamas are giving like a look where like you know, 287 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: they got they do have leisure athletic where like it 288 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: looks like pajamas, but like it's a vibe. 289 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Shout out to Plastics NYC. 290 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: They have a whole you know sets that you know, Like, 291 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: I get that if it's fashion, that's one thing. 292 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: Why do you want to be outsigning in pajamas? 293 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Anyway, My issue with us having pushed back against certain 294 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: things that and making it about race is that regardless 295 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: of your race, I think certain things should just be 296 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: bare minimum for the like for people like if regardless 297 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: of how much fun you're having at college, how comfortable 298 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: you are there, how much it feels like home, college 299 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: is a place of business. 300 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: Your AGBCU is a place of business. 301 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: You never know who you're walking into on campus, literally 302 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: from alumni. 303 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: On camp especially, like you go to certain schools, you can. 304 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: Walk out and meet an executive from a corporation or 305 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: whoever that could change your life. No, and that's how 306 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: the world is. Like you walk out into the world 307 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: never knowing who you're going to meet. How you prepare 308 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: yourself is how you are received. And I understand the 309 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: respectability politics, and I understand like your proximity, Like I 310 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, when people talk about HBCUs, A 311 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: lot of times people will tell students not to go 312 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: to HBCUs because when you go to colleges, they're like, 313 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: you should basically put yourself in proximity of things that 314 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: are looked at as like these great big things and 315 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: people don't equate HBCUs and are alumni to that, which 316 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: is fed up because we are that. But when you're 317 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: talking about going to college, most of people are sending 318 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: their school their kids to college, you know, not because 319 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: they really think college you're going to get them the jobs. 320 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: But it's like, it's about the relationships that you meet, 321 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: the people you meet, the people you're in proximity of. 322 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: Right, I understand all of that, But my point in 323 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: all of this is. 324 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: None of that matters if you're okay as a student 325 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: or as a parent that is upset that this was 326 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: sent to your student, if your kid is out there 327 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: in l my pajamas in the proximity. Like, I just 328 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: don't understand why we have such an issue with us 329 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: setting a certain point of excellence for ourselves. Like I 330 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: really don't get it. College is not just about getting 331 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: up and going to class and getting your degree. 332 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: It is. 333 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: It's really not you get the most experienced and you 334 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: make the most out of your relationships. 335 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: Literally in between all of that, if I'm being honest, and. 336 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Who's to say, like I could meet someone in my 337 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: pajamas and they think that I'm the smartest, greatest person 338 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: and want to help me. Who sucided that's not somebody's life, right, 339 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: But let's think about what we're training ourselves to do, 340 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: be and think and why there is nothing racially insulting 341 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: about saying, take that bond it off your head, take 342 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: that scarf off your head. 343 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: I didn't wake up with you. Period. 344 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: It's the same thing when you when you walking room 345 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: and you don't speak to somebody instantly, I'd be like, oh, 346 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: that person wasn't like you know how that person was raised, 347 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: because my granlmould be like, I didn't wake up with 348 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: you last night, good morning, Hello. 349 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: There. Presentation matters, y'all. 350 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: And if I'm being honest with y'all, I know that 351 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: we love to push back about the rights and you know, 352 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: the spaces and all the things that we should have 353 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: as black people, But let's be honest about the fact 354 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: that like we don't. 355 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: We don't walk through the world the same way that 356 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: other people do. We just don't. And it is an 357 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: amazing thing. 358 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: It is an asset is it is a strength that 359 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: can be used one hundred percent, but it is also 360 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: the reality that can be used against you at the 361 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: same damn time. I just want us to be really 362 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: aware of this because I'm seeing all of the discourse 363 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: around it, and I'm like, why is this an argument? 364 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Y'all? 365 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Let me know if I'm tripping though, Okay, you guys, 366 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: let me know if I'm tripping. I want to hear 367 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: from y'all. Get in the streets, get into tweets. I 368 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: want to hear from you guys. I want to know 369 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: what's going on because I I mean, yeah, I saw 370 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: people online like if we'reing about oh, this girl's name 371 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: is Jay so famous she's in essence posted her as 372 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: a part of her thread too. She said, is where 373 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: if we're in a bond, is the difference between you 374 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: coming and not coming to class? Where at the bonnet, 375 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Where at the pg's, where at the crop top. I'm 376 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: not about to create another barrier that will remove you 377 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: from learning. Come get this lesson. We'll discuss how you 378 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: should present to the outside world afterwards. 379 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: Now even that I don't agree with. 380 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: Now, it's different if certain things are all you have, 381 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Like I understand that completely, because some people are at 382 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: these HBCUs busting there behind to even afford to be 383 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: able to wake up and get out of bed and 384 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: afford to walk down the campus, that's one thing. But 385 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: if you are making a choice to show up and 386 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: your presentation is not what it could potentially be, I 387 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: don't agree. I don't No one's asking you to come 388 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: with a four piece suit on, button down, and you 389 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Cuban links to every single class. 390 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: They're just saying, y'all, put on a jeans and a 391 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: T shirt. Please take your scarf off, take you do 392 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: rag off. I don't see nothing wrong with it. And 393 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: this has been a thing at HBCUs. 394 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: Y'all, this is not new. 395 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: This has excellence in preparing you for the outside world 396 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: is literally the that is the mo of an HBCU 397 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: and not just from a I know how to turn 398 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: a book, answer question and handing an assignment perspective. Some 399 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: of the best people I know when it comes to 400 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: being able to talk their way through anything, show up 401 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: and really utilize their presence to get them through the 402 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: world when talent education may not do it are HBCU graduates. 403 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: And you know why, because shout out to Lawasa University. 404 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: We were literally put together, we were molded together. 405 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: Those four years. 406 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: Shoot, some of y'all was like ten twelve super seniors 407 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: to to. 408 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: Leave bury Mark and the world and to have the 409 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: presence that we have, like. 410 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: It's not listen, it's not on you, it's in you. 411 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: And I understand that, but let's be very honest about 412 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: how the world views us as a marginalized community. The 413 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: people that are going to these HBCUs. Regardless of what 414 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: type of money, you come from, education, you come from, neighborhood, 415 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: you come from black people, We're looked at as black 416 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: people period. That's why would everybody be trying to be like, yeah, 417 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: people of color, Like, okay, everybody has their things. I 418 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: hope everybody gets through them. But black people the world 419 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: is a little bit different for us. 420 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: And I don't. 421 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Agree that you should do things that I don't even 422 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: like to say, do things that make it harder for 423 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: you because we don't pick and choose the systems that 424 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: we're in and how they're designed, and you know all 425 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: those things. But at the same time, I would never 426 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: tell somebody to power bricks on. 427 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: No, ain't nothing wrong with you. 428 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Taking that scarfall for a dang thirty and that's nothing 429 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: The classes be like thirty minutes. 430 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: Sometimes y'all, come on, you can throw a hoodie on. 431 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, y'all, Maybe i'm i'm I'm conforming 432 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: to the respectability of policies. 433 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: I really want to have this conversation. 434 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll bring some HBCU grads and current HBC students 435 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: on the podcast because I really want to have this conversation. 436 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: I really want to understand why anyone in their right 437 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: mind would even think that this is something to push 438 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: back on. 439 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 2: Put them. Parents, have the conversation with your children. 440 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: Showing up in the world the right way is important, 441 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: especially for young black kids. Okay, it can literally literally 442 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: and this is not a choice, and it's sad that 443 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: it has to be like this, but this is what 444 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: it is. 445 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: It can literally be life or death for your children. 446 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: We need to be honest with them about that. I'm 447 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: lon La Rosa. 448 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: This has been another episode of the Latest with Lonla Rosa. 449 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, guys, every single episode, y'all could be 450 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: anywhere with any old body talking about all the things, 451 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: but y'all choose to be right here with me, my 452 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: low riders and speaking of HBCUs Delaware State University, my 453 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: HBCU and just announced our second head to head game 454 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: with Norfolk State University. So DeShawn Jackson, who is the 455 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: football coach at Delaware State, will be facing off again 456 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: against Mike vict Hopefully we're gonna take the goal home 457 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: this time at the link at the link of Financial 458 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Field where the Eagles play in Philadelphia on October thirty first. 459 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: That'll be going down, so y'all know I'm gonna be 460 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: I just had to plug that since we're doing all 461 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: this HBCU talk. Okay, shout out to my HBC you guys. 462 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: I really want to hear from y'all. I know y'all 463 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: are vocal, so I know I will get in the 464 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: streets and tweets. Nor l Rosa I'll catch on my 465 00:22:53,040 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: next episode.