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Speaker 4: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security, when

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Speaker 4: you're building something, you gotta love it. You gotta really

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Speaker 4: love it, you gotta really Everybody ain't built to really

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Speaker 4: build companies that if they really understand what goes into it.

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Speaker 4: Seeing the end result is cool. But when I meet

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Speaker 4: like an Elon Musk and when I meet these people,

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Speaker 4: I want to know what did you have to go through?

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Speaker 4: Versus I don't care about your billions that you got,

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Speaker 4: How did you get to that? What did you have

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Speaker 4: all that emotion? A lot of people crack.

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Speaker 5: My graduates from my school being forced back drop bags drop, Mike,

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Speaker 6: When we have the honor of speaking to legends and

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Speaker 6: goats in the game, we don't take it lightly. And

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Speaker 6: you know, whenever we speak to somebody that has such

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Speaker 6: a high level of information and such a extremely strong pedigree,

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Speaker 6: we learn, Like we learn ourselves when we interview Mark

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Speaker 6: cut and we learn when we interview Shack, we learn,

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Speaker 6: when we interview you name it, Steve Harvey, we learn.

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Speaker 6: So it's like, if we're learning, you guys should learn

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the drill man.

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Speaker 6: We're about to bring out one of the greatest of

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Speaker 6: all time. People throw that term gold around too loosely,

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Speaker 6: people throw that golt around too loosely.

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Speaker 1: But there's only a few goats.

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Speaker 6: When you're talking about Timberland, you're talking about over twenty

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Speaker 6: five years, consistently the number one, number one, number one

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Speaker 6: this is. This is not a regular person. This is

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Speaker 6: not somebody that has done anything normal. This is extremely extraordinary.

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Speaker 6: And then to reinvent himself with versus change the game again.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be one of those nights. I told

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Speaker 6: So so I need a round of applause for my

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Speaker 6: brother Tim Bull to kick.

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Speaker 1: Timothy, let's go. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: The a leg Thank you, thank you, legend legends only man.

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Speaker 4: Look at all these beautiful people in here.

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Speaker 4: I like this ship, Tim all right, So we're gonna

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Speaker 4: get into it first and foremost, thank you for coming, bro.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, Thank you for having me. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of what y'all doing.

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Speaker 4: Man, I've been watching for like about two years now,

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Speaker 6: Be connected now. So you know that's easy man. So

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Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna waste any time. Man, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: get right into it. And I want to talk about versus.

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Speaker 6: Want to talk about it's a legendary versus. First and foremost,

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Speaker 4: When the pandemic hit, I always had this kind of

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Speaker 4: So me and Swiss was we had an idea that

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Speaker 6: talk about this thriller situation.

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Speaker 2: MSG or are we just.

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Speaker 4: Doing on Triller? What do you see for the future?

439
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Speaker 4: Versus were definitely gonna do. We got some big ones

440
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Speaker 4: coming up, some big ones, and these big ones take time,

441
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Speaker 4: take a lot of time. We're trying to do one

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Speaker 4: maybe before the end of the year, but it's really

443
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Speaker 4: the top of the year where we're gonna start, and

444
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Speaker 4: we're still figuring out how we're doing it because it's

445
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Speaker 4: so much just coming to us.

446
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Speaker 1: You just gotta do the right ones.

447
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Speaker 4: It's so much on the plate right now that we

448
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Speaker 4: definitely gonna keep it. You know, it's gonna be Triller,

449
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Speaker 4: but we just gotta figure out how to do it

450
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Speaker 4: and still keep the people happy, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Because the thing about when you do something.

452
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Speaker 4: That's free, sometimes you gotta know how to integrate it

453
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Speaker 4: to it not be free because it's still a business

454
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Speaker 4: and it's not that you want to charge like that,

455
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Speaker 4: but it's like, we gotta pay the bills of these artists.

456
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Speaker 1: So some people are like, oh.

457
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Speaker 4: Man, you're gonna take it off Instagram and now we're

458
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Speaker 4: gonna do that, but Instagram gotta pay us, so we

459
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Speaker 4: gotta do something because we gotta it gotta be you know.

460
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Speaker 4: So now we're at that stage where we're figuring out

461
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Speaker 4: things on how to do it and still keep our

462
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Speaker 4: audience happy and still keep.

463
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Speaker 1: Them like, ah, you know, ah man, y'all doing this.

464
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Speaker 4: We're not getting Hollywood, but we're bringing Hollywood excitement to you.

465
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Speaker 4: But they paid that Netflix bill, Yeah, they do right,

466
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Speaker 4: And didn't they raise that bitch?

467
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Speaker 1: They did? They did? They fucked up. Y'all can complain.

468
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Speaker 1: Y'all gonna pay for Netflix. Netflix ain't got shit on

469
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Speaker 1: that ship.

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Speaker 4: At least we give you some man, We give you

471
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Speaker 4: some good argument, good music stories.

472
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Speaker 1: Why would you want to pay for that shit? That ship?

473
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Speaker 4: And it's the culture and you could go to that shit.

474
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever been to a versus them?

475
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Speaker 4: Shits is off the chain, ain't they are?

476
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Speaker 1: Like? WHOA?

477
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Speaker 4: I only could have been in the two because I

478
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Speaker 4: said this is this is out of control, the bow

479
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Speaker 4: Wow one out of control. They had that shit popping.

480
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Speaker 4: I was there, see I was going to cut when

481
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Speaker 4: I go to everybody like if you're like.

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Speaker 1: The club, I'm getting in with you. I'm going in

483
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Speaker 1: with you. I'm like, this ain't this.

484
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Speaker 4: Ain't lim this is versus you know what I'm saying.

485
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Speaker 4: But you know it is what it is. I love

486
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Speaker 4: our people, you know what I'm saying. It's what we do.

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Speaker 4: Any music people in the house.

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Speaker 6: All right, I want to I want to ask some

489
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Speaker 6: music conversations. Okay, one of the best producers ever, so

490
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Speaker 6: let's talk about some music publishing. How important is publishing

491
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Speaker 6: for a producer? What are some best ways that a

492
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Speaker 6: producer can make sure they get in there right amount

493
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Speaker 6: of publishing?

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Speaker 1: Like talk about that. You know, the business changed so much.

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Speaker 4: I feel like what I was taught with publishing was

496
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498
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Speaker 4: So now what I would tell a producer, it's really

500
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Speaker 4: that's what that's where you really make your money at

501
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Speaker 4: now because I don't think producers back when I was

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Speaker 4: We got like six hundred five hundred thousand a walk

551
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Speaker 4: to do a track. I don't think that's happening today.

552
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Speaker 4: So you have so today. I think a producer has

553
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Speaker 4: to rely on their catalog they publishing. But the beauty

554
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Speaker 4: about it, I think it's up to you. I took

555
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Speaker 4: an admin deal, which you know, what's that. It's like, well,

556
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Speaker 4: I still own my published, but they administered and they

557
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Speaker 4: collect my checks, but they would take it like a

558
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Speaker 4: eighty thirty split.

559
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Speaker 1: Instead of fifty to fifty or something like that.

560
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Speaker 4: It just it's really a publisher deal is not harmful

561
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Speaker 4: to you know. I think people used to put bad

562
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Speaker 4: stick monitors on them back in the day because the

563
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Speaker 4: world changed. But I think as a producer, keep building

564
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Speaker 4: your catalog, cash out because the multiple keeps going down.

565
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Speaker 1: So if like if you got one something it you said,

566
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Speaker 1: I'm a hold on.

567
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Speaker 4: So I said, well, if it's a ten x man,

568
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Speaker 4: you better go ahead and cash out and bill you

569
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Speaker 4: another catalog. Because if you're making five hundred thousand a

570
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Speaker 4: year on your publishing, they gonna ten x that. So

571
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Speaker 4: you better as well as some people might fourteen exit.

572
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you might as well take

573
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Speaker 4: that cash. I think people need to follow the business

574
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Speaker 4: structure when it comes to publishing on the multiples or

575
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Speaker 4: how much they paying you per your deal. We got

576
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Speaker 4: tim talking about multiples now. I can't believe I'm doing

577
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Speaker 4: this shit.

578
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Speaker 2: This is matter speaking of multiples, and I'm glad you

579
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Speaker 2: brought up catalogs. We're in the era where we're seeing

580
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Speaker 2: legacy artists now sell their catalogs. Yeah, so what are

581
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on that from a producer standpoint? Because I

582
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Speaker 2: know it's at an artist that's your song, but as

583
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Speaker 2: the producer, I mean, you have royalty percentages of the song.

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Speaker 1: So how do yeah, how does it work in with

585
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Speaker 1: your thoughts?

586
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I sold my catalog, I sold mys

587
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Speaker 4: I think it's what you work hard for.

588
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

589
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Speaker 4: So it's like you got fifty percent of the song.

590
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Speaker 4: The artists got fifty center of the song. I know

591
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Speaker 4: you saw justin so his It's really it's really like

592
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Speaker 4: a it's a it's a it's a I want to say,

593
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: like it's like you building up this equity of yourself

594
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Speaker 4: as a producer, and like you are going to as

595
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Speaker 4: a producer. You are going down and they'll be like, oh,

596
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: you got Drake top ten blah blah blah screaming this.

597
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Speaker 1: So say if it's take Key.

598
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Speaker 4: Or somebody, if he got fifty fifty percent of that

599
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Speaker 4: song and its screaming a billion, that thing going crazy,

600
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So a lot of producers

601
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Speaker 4: now of making a you know, the screaming base they're

602
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Speaker 4: making publishing money is good right now.

603
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Speaker 1: I think it's good.

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Speaker 6: You know It's so crazy is that when people started

605
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Speaker 6: selling their catalogs, their masters and they're publishing. A lot

606
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Speaker 6: of people was like, that's a bad idea. And I

607
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 6: was kind of like believe in that until we did

608
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Speaker 6: an interview with somebody in London and they like, you

609
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Speaker 6: gotta look at it like a startup company like Eli

610
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Speaker 6: Musk sold PayPal for two hundred million, flip that into

611
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Speaker 6: almost a trillion dollars with SpaceX and Tesla, so it's

612
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Speaker 6: like it's a liquidation event. And interviewing IRV Gotti and

613
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Speaker 6: where IRV sold his catalog for one hundred million dollars

614
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Speaker 6: and he was like, look, I was probably making a

615
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Speaker 6: half a million dollars a year for my catalog. He's like,

616
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Speaker 6: you know how long it would have taken me to

617
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Speaker 6: actually have enough money to do what I need to do.

618
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Speaker 6: Now I get one hundred million dollars and one time, Yeah,

619
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Speaker 6: now I can try to build the empire to get

620
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Speaker 6: to that billion.

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Speaker 4: Basically, it is just really you betting on yourself. That's

622
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Speaker 4: why I tell creators, never stop creating. Just keep putting

623
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Speaker 4: it out, keep putting it out, bill your page, because

624
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: right now you got the tools in your own pocket.

625
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: You don't need all this extra curriculu shit. You just

626
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Speaker 4: gotta believe in yourself and start doing the PaperWorks.

627
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Speaker 1: Get you a You gotta have a.

628
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Speaker 4: Good lawyer go through and a lawyer's going to tell you,

629
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Speaker 4: educate you on how to sign your songs up with

630
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Speaker 4: asscap the copyrights, do all of that, and don't wait

631
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Speaker 4: on getting signed to a major start. Now that's why

632
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Speaker 4: right here, you not a master's it's independency because you

633
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: can build that. All that counts to when you go

634
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Speaker 4: to sell your catalog or wanna chapel or UMG publishing

635
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Speaker 4: come to you, they gonna, oh, that's gonna tally up.

636
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

637
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Speaker 4: They're gonna be like, oh, I want to do this,

638
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Speaker 4: I give you a five million for your catalog right now.

639
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Speaker 4: They do the math you making, they say you making

640
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Speaker 4: this quarterly. It's important to just say, you know what,

641
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: I could do this again. I'm gonna cash out so

642
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: I can go build something else. That's all it really is.

643
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: You build up your business to go get some money

644
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: that you earn. It's gonna take you know, because if

645
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: you wait on publishing, if they pay out quarterly. So

646
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Speaker 4: why not, like your man said this, take take the

647
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: one hundred million. Why sit on it? What are you doing?

648
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: Like that's that might don't be there tomorrow. Something can

649
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 4: happen in the world where everything can laugh look at

650
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 4: you know, look what's happened with saying with the FTX.

651
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: Anything can happen. So you better take that money and

652
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: somebody gonna offer you a multiple or fourteen and everybody

653
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Speaker 4: giving you twelve.

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Speaker 1: Don't be no dumby now he was saying he got

655
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: twenty six, or.

656
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, so you talked about you said you

657
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: sold your catalog, and so one of the things that

658
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: Erv was saying to us was just like, yeah, they're

659
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: taking the things I did twenty years ago.

660
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I can't create now.

661
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: I want it in your space now, because I mean

662
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: we got Diamond Records under the catalog, we got Missy obviously,

663
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: we got Justin Timberlay, obviously, the Jay Records. Are you

664
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: still passionate about making the music and creating more of

665
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: a catalog or are we focused on this startup company

666
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 2: you got called versus.

667
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm focused on.

668
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: My two startup companies, this card it, this startup cup,

669
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: the beat Club, because I consider myself. I consider myself

670
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: the Amazona Beats. I'm creating a store where I go

671
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: out and help every creator.

672
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: I lend my sound to everybody.

673
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: What keeps me hot is keeping a young nikka beside me,

674
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: a young hot producer, young people beside me. So I'm

675
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: more about building a community now. That's how I'm producing.

676
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 4: It could be her, she could be the hottest producer

677
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 4: right now and I'm telling you, yo, Future Will, yet

678
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: you need to fuck with her. So guess what, tim Alin,

679
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: you know he said it, he did it. So that's

680
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: how I'm producing now. I'm producing with people. I'm producing people,

681
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: and I'm building my company and bringing on people that

682
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 4: like Yo. I grab all the hottest producers. I did

683
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: the same thing, gave them equity and be club and

684
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: we started. So I was doing all that at the

685
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: same time at Versus. So I'm I'm in the phase

686
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: of I'm still doing music, but I do it with

687
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 4: other people like me and Mike Will talking about doing

688
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: the album. You know what I'm saying. I told Mike

689
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: as a producer, he was going over his hits. He

690
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 4: got a lot of major hits, and I look at

691
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: it like, this is the time for you to go

692
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: back and get a run like you on your Future

693
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: Records was crazy.

694
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: We got to go back and do a run.

695
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 4: So for me, I'm extending myself producing that way, like

696
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: I did everything when it comes to producing, But I

697
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: haven't really worked with somebody that's younger than me or

698
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 4: got more swag because this is a young sport. Music

699
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: is a young sport. So for me, I try to

700
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: find young talent and give my timbo swag to it

701
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: along with they swag, you know, Like I give a

702
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: prime example that I fall in the background, first Class.

703
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: That was my people's that was my producers who did

704
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 4: Jack Hollow. I put him in the room. I said,

705
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: do this, We should do this, should we saundple this?

706
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: It's a timbo What you think? Oh, first Class was

707
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: a hit back then, it's gonna be a hit now.

708
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 4: So they mess with it, Angel send it to me,

709
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: and I'm.

710
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: Like, that think good? I told Jack, he said, yo,

711
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: can I.

712
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: Get justin like guy that's producing in a different way,

713
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: like from the background, taking my credit.

714
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Because I feel like.

715
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: When we did Versus and I love having the company

716
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: bigger than who I am. Versus is bigger than me.

717
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: So I just want to build brands that are bigger

718
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: than me, like oh man, that's Baker, Oh that's tembo shit.

719
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: But I don't care about being in the forefront. I

720
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: want to be I want to learn because I feel

721
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: like my whole career as a producer being hot, I

722
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 4: didn't really learn nothing, you know what I'm saying. I

723
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: was just blowing money, wasting shit, doing crazy and now

724
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: like Jimmy was like, when you get like in your

725
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: middle age, He's like, yo, that's when you really make

726
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: your real wealth. And he always told me that. That

727
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: always stuck with me. So I was like, sometimes it's

728
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 4: good to play the background to learn. So now I

729
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: just want to build and be part of amazing companies

730
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: and try to just pivot and do certain things. It's

731
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: totally different outside my rim. I don't want to be

732
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: just Oh, Timbo the music producer. I want to be Yo,

733
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: when every kid I heard all these talented artists right yo,

734
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: go to be club. I'm gonna hook you up. I'm

735
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: gonna hook you with the hottest producers. I'm gonna tell

736
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: you where to go subscribe over here. And then I'm

737
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: not being a faceless company like I really talk to

738
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: these kids. I tell like, yo, you got tight nests,

739
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 4: nail and I don't play so much music for people

740
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: that never got a placement in the world. So I'm like,

741
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: you know what, that's my gift, that's my next calling.

742
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 4: So that's what God got me doing, is building these companies,

743
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: learning more about spats, ownerships, spats.

744
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: So I can write my great s one one day.

745
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this I know you had some

746
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 6: financial issues.

747
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: What was some issues that.

748
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 6: You had and what was some some trials and tribulations

749
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 6: and lessons that you learned along the way.

750
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: Man, Just like math is is not my thing, Like

751
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be a one hundred with you, Like

752
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like it just understand and

753
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 4: then for me, money is money, But you really got

754
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: to understand yourself, like are you addicted to a certain lifestyle?

755
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 1: Do you want to chase certain things? You just gotta

756
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: be calm.

757
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: If you calm, your money are staying your bank account,

758
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: and then you can really learn. So I had to

759
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: learn how to be just calm, you know what I'm saying, like,

760
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: go see a watch? Come my homeboy brought a watch

761
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: knowing my money ain't like his money.

762
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: Why the fuck I'm buying this watch?

763
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 4: Oh shit, Now I gotta go over here figure out

764
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: how I'm pay for or get the money because I'm

765
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: trying to over extend myself over things that really don't

766
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: excite me. So what I learned about finance is really

767
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: learning yourself. And then once you learn yourself that you

768
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: know you and have and be patient on things. Like

769
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: I learned how to have to learn how to be

770
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: patient instead of like let me go by that, instead

771
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: of asking questions, multiple questions like would.

772
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: You do that?

773
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: Would you not do that? Because I used to have

774
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: the attitude, fuck it, I'm doing it. Then I do it,

775
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: all go bad and I just wasted money, just gone

776
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: down to drain. So now I ask a thousand questions,

777
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: and people like Higo Tim asking a thousand questions, you

778
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: damn right, because I ain't spending this money no more.

779
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 4: It's hard to get it, especially when you're in a

780
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: pivot point. I really learned that you really got to

781
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 4: have will power not to be because when you're building

782
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: a company, you can't do everything that your homeboys do.

783
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: You got to be eyes on. You gotta be head

784
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: in first.

785
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: I listen to a story with Eli Musk when he

786
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: said he slept on the floor for three years at Tesla.

787
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 4: That to me is crazy. To me, that's like, that's

788
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 4: how I want to be. Like he sacrificed so where

789
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: he can be today. So sometimes you got to sacrifice

790
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: a little bit of fun and pleasure that you might

791
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: can do and just really be on your hustle and

792
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: grind and for me, when it comes to money. I

793
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 4: just try to say, well, let me I don't want

794
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: to go do this. I don't need the goal spit.

795
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: I just want to What do I like to do?

796
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: Okay?

797
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: I like to travel? Okay, how much do I set

798
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: a budget for traveler? I want to travel here? But

799
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: first I never would do those things. But now that

800
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 4: I had to get comfortable with myself and really purge

801
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 4: myself of all these uncleanness things that I would get

802
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 4: myself into.

803
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: So I had to like to do a little bit.

804
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: And it's hard, you know what I'm saying, because everybody,

805
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 4: you know, you want to show off your fruit, so

806
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: your labor. But sometimes if you're building something, this I learned.

807
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 4: My friend told me the goal is greater than the moment.

808
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: So I learned how to have less moments and keep

809
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: my goal in front of me.

810
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: It's powerful, sad bar Yeah.

811
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: So I wondered about the power of influence right because

812
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: your partner in versus Swiss, we show him go to

813
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: Harvard for business school. I wonder being around him the

814
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: impact that it had on you. And conversely, when you

815
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: see young producers like you mentioned, like a take Keith

816
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: or a throw Mike Will, are you advising them on

817
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: the mistakes that you made and saying like, hey, this

818
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: is how it can go.

819
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: Man, I tell them. You know, that goes another thing

820
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: about yourself. You gotta be comfortable with yourself to tell

821
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 4: your mistakes. I tell everybody my mistakes. I was telling Oz.

822
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: I was like he brought like a Lamborghini because he

823
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: threw a most a lot of Drake records and he

824
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 4: brought like a couple of cars. I said, all right,

825
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: I said, don't I did that?

826
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: That depreciates you know that? Right?

827
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: You know you can go by, you can go put

828
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 4: it in a trade, or you know, do something and

829
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 4: flip and get that and never have to spend your money.

830
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: Like you It's a lot of things you can do.

831
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: But don't don't go crazy because you just getting in

832
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: the car and going back in the house. You know,

833
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: you do know that, right? You do nothing like you

834
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: don't need five of them or three of them. You

835
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like, what are we doing? So

836
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: I try to tell people, say, well, what did you do?

837
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: I said, Man, get the bag form of the bag.

838
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: Get the bag form of the bag. And you don't

839
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: even realize you fumbling it because you so much capture.

840
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: I call it like the loadus flower where you just

841
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: in this room, just training here, and you just training here,

842
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: just draining, and when you go out, you be like, well,

843
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: my shit, go, you've been in that that loadus room

844
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: just going crazy, spending, spending, spending, and then it's like

845
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: you can't do that.

846
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: You got to just be calm in the hype. Just

847
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: ride it.

848
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: Out, build your business, look at other things that you

849
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 4: want to do. I tell them, like, you know, I

850
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 4: tell producers. I like the way Producers is going right now,

851
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 4: it's one every week.

852
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: It's a little kid that's coming up.

853
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: So I'm saying, as you build your catalogs, go invest

854
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: into business.

855
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Go put your money away, go watch y'all. You need

856
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: to invest in y'all.

857
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: Y'all need to have like a fundraise for the help

858
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: these people to put their money into invest in for them,

859
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: because that's what's missing. People will get all this lump

860
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: summer money, but the gatekeepers don't let us, let us in.

861
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: And that's another thing too.

862
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: So it's like sometimes like these higher ups you know

863
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: in these they won't give you the tips or you

864
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: should invest in this. You got to be in a circle.

865
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: So what I tell people, try to get in those circles.

866
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: Go to the events. It's not that you think is

867
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: not valuable, because it ain't the script club, it ain't

868
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: the this. But guess what, go to that banking event

869
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: because guess what, that banking event gonna get you a

870
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: lot of money and gonna save you.

871
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: A lot of money. Just go to investmentest was probably

872
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: the best place. Yeah, that's the best.

873
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: So you're right, you don't want to go to the

874
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: party live or the banking event.

875
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to the banking event. It's a minister of both.

876
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: You got the script clubs.

877
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: You got education, you got entertainment, we got.

878
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: It all support black businesses. So so let me ask

879
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: you this on the producer side. Back to that for

880
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: a minute.

881
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 6: Clearing records, I want to know from two sides, because

882
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 6: I'm sure you had the clear samples. But now you're

883
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 6: in the people probably sampling your catalog.

884
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Right.

885
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 6: So we've heard stories where it's like I think Asap

886
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 6: Ferd paying Juicy j eighty percent of his publishing for

887
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 6: that one. He just used one bar. So it's like

888
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 6: it's just so crazy. So talk about SAMP. I know

889
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 6: a lot of artists made mistakes, didn't go through, didn't

890
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 6: get the sample clear, and then they got to pay

891
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 6: one hundred percent of the publishing.

892
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Because there's issues on that.

893
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: I mean, like Prince don't really clear those samples. A

894
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: lot of people, I mean, sampling is a it's your art.

895
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: Some everybody's different, juicyj That's how he handled. If you're

896
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: gonna sample mine, I'm taking fifty off top. You know

897
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: that's your right because he owned the catalog. But when

898
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 4: trying to get it clear sometimes it could be a hassle.

899
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: But for the most part is not. I mean for

900
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: the most part, people really love the art and they

901
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 4: clear it, but they gonna take their publish it. You

902
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying Like that just you work hard

903
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 4: for that, you know what I'm saying, Like somebody remake

904
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: one of my songs. I got to get my published

905
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: cause that song was it's going to be a hit today.

906
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: So it's only right I get ten or fifteen percent.

907
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm not going to hit you across the head for

908
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 4: fifty percent because I know you're recreating and you got

909
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: to eat too. But least when it comes to that,

910
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: A lot of people who own those copyrights get to

911
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: say the get the the sayso at the end of

912
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: the day, where they can say yes or not. But

913
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: Juicy J like, I don't think it's that hard clearing samples.

914
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: When it comes to music, it's just a matter on

915
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: who owns it, and most of the times, if you

916
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 4: sign to a publisher, they'll go clear for you and

917
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: tell you that you only made Like say, if I'm

918
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: the producer of It's been a couple songs with me

919
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: and Missy where I sample I think I sample and

920
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: Peoples for I can't stop the ring. I think she

921
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 4: took about twenty five, so me and Missy had to

922
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: split the rest because she took twenty five off the top,

923
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: and it's only right I use her her whole loop

924
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: for the whole song. So you don't really trip about

925
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 4: it because it's gonna you look at the greater good,

926
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: what the song is gonna do? I always looked at

927
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 4: I pay him whatever because I know it's a hit.

928
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: I need this hit. I need to build up the catalog.

929
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm building this because I know I can make more

930
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: money with this one record. I know I got to

931
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: break off or break this person off. I don't mind

932
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: that because I know I'm gonna reap more in the

933
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: long run.

934
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot of independent artists here. Obviously United Masters

935
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: is the home of that. And so I'm wondering because

936
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: you've seen young talent, right we started with a lid

937
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: all the way up to Tink and all her success. Now,

938
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: I remember the first person was talking about her was you.

939
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: And so one of the things that you see and

940
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: a talent that says, you know, what they have star quality?

941
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: Star quality. You know, It's hard for me to.

942
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 4: Say what's star today because I done came from an

943
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: era where we didn't have social media, we didn't have

944
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: all these platforms. So to me, what a star quality

945
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 4: that I think is is a person that know who

946
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 4: they are, that owns what they do and know how

947
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: to perform a lot of artists don't really know how

948
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 4: to perform, but I feel like if you know how

949
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 4: to give a show, that really makes a difference.

950
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: You know. Like it was at Rolling.

951
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: Loud and I was telling my son, I was like,

952
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: when Kendrick came on, I was like, look at the

953
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: difference between them, not taking away from nobody else, but

954
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: that's a superstar. Do you hear every word? Clear? He's

955
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 4: precise he's he's this is not just a festival for him.

956
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 4: He's putting on the show. People crying. That's what star

957
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 4: quality is like, when you put so much work into

958
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 4: your work that you're just not like you're not hoarding

959
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: it out to everybody. And we don't get a lot

960
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: of those because now everybody go viral trying to do

961
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 4: they shit, it's not really about the artists, really about

962
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 4: the songs now, but star quality, it's really up to you.

963
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: But it really doesn't exist today. I think you can

964
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: count on one hand like who's a superstar, But then

965
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 4: some people would disagree and be like, oh, because this

966
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: person a superstar and they own right. So it's like

967
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to say what superstar. I like

968
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: to say the elites now all these say superstar. An

969
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: elite person or entertainer is somebody who really cares about

970
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 4: their craft and you see and you see them constantly

971
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: working on it. To me, who I think is a

972
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: superstar or elite who's going to be elite and it's

973
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 4: on his way and he's steady rising, it's Jack Hollow.

974
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 4: Jack Haller is definitely a superstar. The way he carry himself,

975
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 4: the way he think about his music, the way he

976
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 4: want to put out music. He had conversation, he invited

977
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: me in to have a conversation.

978
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, he's a star.

979
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: He's a superstar because it's not about partying or whatever.

980
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: He really cares about the craft of making the album

981
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: and making great music and making people feel something.

982
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: So he has a chalkboard in the studio.

983
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 4: He writes down the songs, like we could do something

984
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: better than this one, what y'all think? And he have

985
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: a conversation. And that's what we don't see today in

986
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 4: the music, the artist working with the producers and to

987
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: me because he's like that, that's what makes him an elite,

988
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: a superstar. But we don't have a lot of that today.

989
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 4: People artists don't even go in the studio with the producer.

990
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 4: It's center pack. So I'm trying to change that because

991
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: if I'm a center pack, at least you're gonna get

992
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 4: me on on your head top telling you d ain't it.

993
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like, Nah, pick that beat,

994
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: don't do that, don't do that. At least I can

995
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: yup coordinate this wild wild West that we're living in.

996
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: When it's called music because that's what it is. It's

997
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: the wild wild West right now. And it's hard to

998
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: find like super superstars because a lot of they they

999
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 4: can look like a star, but they work ethic as ship.

1000
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: They work ethic as shit.

1001
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 4: But you look amazed, but you give me ship for

1002
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: work that just don't work.

1003
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: So you know, it's hard out here. It's hard out here.

1004
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 4: But I find them. I find them here and there.

1005
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: Tink it is a star. I know she was a star.

1006
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 4: I think she's a phenomenal. But see I could bright

1007
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: because at the same time I had Tink, Bryson was

1008
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: right there too, and I knew them too. Was I

1009
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know who to go with. I

1010
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: don't ship like I got. I'm good with.

1011
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: Women, so I'm gonna stick with Tink, you know what

1012
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1013
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: But Bryson, all of them, I knew they were stars

1014
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: because they would just had something different. But that only

1015
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: comes a dime a dozen, you know what I'm saying.

1016
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: That's like pulling founding a four leaf clover out here

1017
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: or some shit.

1018
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 6: Make some noise for Tim Boder King, Ladies and gentlemen, y'all.

1019
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 6: This was a legendary conversation man, so many gyms man.

1020
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 6: I'm honored to sit next to this gentleman man and

1021
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 6: somebody I grew up on and still doing it, still

1022
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 6: reinvent themselves, So don't ever take it for granted. Shout

1023
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 6: out to everybody that King. We got some more musical performances,

1024
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 6: and we have a surprise performance a little later on

1025
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 6: from one of the greatest lyricists of all time, so

1026
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 6: you might want to stick around for that. But once again,

1027
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 6: make some noise for timp.

1028
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,240
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1029
00:52:49,880 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 5: Mike drop backdrop.

1030
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,400
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1031
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1032
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1037
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1038
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1041
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1043
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1044
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