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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Call Light a Health.

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Speaker 2: It's a familiar time in Buffalo. The leaves are falling,

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Speaker 2: the tailgate fires are roaring. You might say it's getting chilly.

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Speaker 2: And for those outside of Buffalo, they're deciding it's time.

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Speaker 3: To write us off. I do think it's time they

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Speaker 3: the panic.

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Speaker 4: Button's stuck and regressing.

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Speaker 5: They're still searching for an identity in nom.

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Speaker 3: But within our walls, I know they're ready for the

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Speaker 3: challenge and said, what the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 4: Do inside our locker.

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Speaker 6: Room, We've got our best football to play in front

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Speaker 6: of us.

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Speaker 4: We know what time it is.

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Speaker 7: Where it's prime time. Time for our offense to light

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Speaker 7: it up.

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Speaker 5: Flyers to the episode Wide Open.

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Speaker 3: Waltz is into the episode.

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Speaker 4: The time for our defense is shut it down.

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Speaker 3: Locket, collapsing, pressure coming.

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Speaker 8: Sack.

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Speaker 4: Bill's Mafia. It's time to mount up.

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Speaker 5: Oh you know what that music is. It's like as

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Speaker 5: it comes Monday night football.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: Three hours of a pre pregame for you here on

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Speaker 5: One Bills Live on a Buffalo Football game day, and

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Speaker 5: Steve and I will break it down for you. Anything

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Speaker 5: that's left to discuss, we will discuss with you as

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Speaker 5: we're gonna be looking for your keys to eight. Bill's

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Speaker 5: victory tonight against a plucky Broncos team Steve that has

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Speaker 5: won two in a row, including a victory over the

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Speaker 5: defending Super Bowl champions for the first time in eight

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Speaker 5: years for Denver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and hats off to Sean Payton, Russ Wilson, those guys.

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Speaker 3: They they've kind of it seemed like they were bottoming

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Speaker 3: out at the beginning of this season. It was really

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Speaker 3: gonna get ugly, but they didn't let it happen. They

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Speaker 3: earned five turnovers from Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs got

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Speaker 3: that win and went into their bye week feeling I

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Speaker 3: think like they're on the ascent, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So I'm yeah, this game has gotten them and from

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Speaker 3: social media and all that, you know, Bills fans are

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Speaker 3: all over the map. But they got their they got

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Speaker 3: their panties in a little bit of a bunch here

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Speaker 3: because of with the Broncos game. They're the Bills have

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Speaker 3: not put their foot on the gas yet this season,

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Speaker 3: and they're worried that the Broncos are going to get

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Speaker 3: them like the Broncos got the Chiefs understood.

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Speaker 5: The Bills have been a much more consistent team at

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Speaker 5: home then they have been on the road. Their game

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Speaker 5: tonight and next week both at home where they are

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Speaker 5: four and oh this season, and really their only stinker

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Speaker 5: was the win over the Giants. That was the only

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Speaker 5: time where you know, the offense didn't put up points

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Speaker 5: get back on track tonight. I realize there is not

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Speaker 5: compelling evidence to support that necessarily, but I do think

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati game. There was just some poor execution on a

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Speaker 5: but they didn't help last week either. I don't think

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Speaker 5: the calls by the officials would have changed the outcome

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Speaker 5: of that game against Cincinnati. The thing that frustrates me

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Speaker 5: is why didn't Cincinnati have the stinker they had yesterday

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Speaker 5: give some credit to Houston as well, and CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 4: This just in.

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Speaker 5: Guys on pace for the second most passing yards by

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Speaker 5: a rookie in NFL history, Justin Herbert's the only guy

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Speaker 5: with more passing yards than him after ten games, as

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Speaker 5: he went over three hundred again in a impressive road

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Speaker 5: win at Cincinnati yesterday field goal at the end of

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Speaker 5: the game, which, by the way, Steve marked a first

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Speaker 5: in NFL history for the first time, five teams want

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Speaker 5: on the last play of the game in regulation. Could

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Speaker 5: the NFL want? I'm telling you want it any more?

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Speaker 5: This is exactly what the NFL wants every single week.

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Speaker 5: It happened five times. So I got and there's a

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Speaker 5: Hail Mary in the end zone in the Sunday night game.

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Speaker 3: So I have two I have two brothers in and

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you what it's like. It's she's still on

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Speaker 3: cop Oh my gosh, It's like, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: What is going on?

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Speaker 3: And I'll say, what this I think it was the

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Speaker 3: the Bengals game, or could have been the Browns Ravens game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like there's like nine interceptions in thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: it's like, wow, they kicked it. And then the Cleveland

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Tyler Boyd drops a touchdown in the zone.

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Speaker 3: It was nice that, you know. That's why the weekends

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Speaker 3: like this is why the NFELL is the eight hundred

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Speaker 3: pound guilla. You can't take your eyes off it. It's

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Speaker 3: it is. It's at the same time exhilarating and gut

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Speaker 3: wrenching all at once. It's it's unbelievable. Those games yesterday

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Speaker 5: So Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, and Seattle all convert game

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Speaker 5: winning field goals with no time remaining, the most game

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Speaker 5: single week in NFL history, which is exactly how the

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Speaker 5: NFL owners wanted drawn up. They want you to stick

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Speaker 3: For sure. The Texas Bengals game, the Texans Bengals game

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Speaker 3: was great. The only game that was really a stinky

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Speaker 3: It was great through halftime, but you know, Tampa Bay

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Speaker 3: that was. The Giants couldn't get out of their own

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Speaker 3: team is just it's abysmal. Their quarterback hit and I

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Speaker 3: was telling you this, Tommy DeVito, They're dysfunctional. Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 3: has more touchdown passes than Daniel Jones this year and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Steve, what did I tell you last offseason when

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Speaker 5: they handed him forty million a year?

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Speaker 9: Done?

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Speaker 5: What did I tell you?

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Speaker 3: Had fifteen touchdown passes in the year before he signed

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Speaker 5: Giving him forty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: It was dumb.

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Speaker 5: It would have been better off Raiders.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders jet game looked like a glacier moving with

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Speaker 5: That's right, although once again it's tight at the end.

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Speaker 5: So now with just the Monday game tonight between the

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Speaker 5: you can't leave because you don't know how it's gonna

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Speaker 5: end up. And that's what they want, and that's certainly

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Speaker 5: what the television networks want for all the billions they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's so Having said all that, and

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Speaker 3: we'll probably get some calls about this from you the

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Speaker 3: listeners and some stuff on social media, how do you

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Speaker 5: Well, seventy percent of all games this season have been

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Speaker 3: I was telling them seventy percent. Let me just tell

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Speaker 3: you some this just in I know this is not

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Speaker 3: you just really want them to win somehow, someway, even

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Speaker 3: if it's ugly. In fact, it's better probably at this

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Speaker 3: going thirty four to three like San Francisco did yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It'd be nice. And I know fans love it if

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Speaker 3: Get to win obviously every chance you get, but you

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Speaker 3: don't want them to hit their stride until mid to

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Speaker 3: crazy to think the Bills were gonna blow through this

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Speaker 3: if the Bills do that, that's how this season should

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Speaker 3: unfold for them to be their best. You just win,

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Speaker 3: get these games out of the way. Now, go win loss,

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Speaker 5: They got a stack wins. They can't go win loss.

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Speaker 3: No, they got a stack wins, but they don't have

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Speaker 3: if they if they win the division games they have left,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna win the division. They'll be the three or

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Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you, I think ask the ask the

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Speaker 3: ask the Bengals. You ain't gonna play like they've played

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Speaker 3: in the last month, all the way through the end.

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Speaker 3: Node yesterday they got punched in the mouth by who.

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Speaker 5: Was it, Houston Texans?

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Speaker 3: The Houston Texans.

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Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, five and four, Like the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let us play Indianapolis. Okay, let us you know,

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Speaker 3: let us play Indianapolis. Let us play Houston, let us

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Speaker 5: I mean, Houston's playing a last play schedule, So.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I get it. Uh.

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Speaker 5: The NFL Football Power Index, as put together by ESPN

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Speaker 5: at ten and seven. They have their current playoff percentage

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Speaker 5: Obviously a lot can change between now and then. So,

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Speaker 3: Raven going to eat each other to sils and three Cleveland,

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Speaker 5: It's five and four.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's got Cleveland in Cleveland this week.

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Speaker 5: Those teams, how is how is Pittsburgh doing it? Smoking mirrors?

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Speaker 3: Man? Do it with a pass rush and not turning

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Speaker 5: They have to be the most resourceful team in football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so a good pass rush may not be enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: They got They got the Bengals twice, and they got

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Speaker 5: We are asking you at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 5: Bills keys to victory tonight you give us the keys

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Speaker 5: Aight oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 5: So give us a jingle if you have some thoughts

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Speaker 5: in mind on that subject, Steve. As you know, I

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Speaker 3: Was Georgia's holme has what six and seven and oh.

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Speaker 5: They are eight to o. Now they're eighting, well I

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Speaker 3: All right, so they were eight and o going into

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh yeah, Old Miss came in at number nine.

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Speaker 5: that the game was a giant one. The Bulldogs played

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Speaker 3: Of the number nine team in the country.

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Speaker 5: So the funniest thing was I tweeted. I tweeted out

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Speaker 5: says ole Miss about to lay the wood. Yo, sorry

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Speaker 5: Dogs tonight you lose? Is before the game. Yeah, So

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Speaker 5: at the end of the game, I took a picture

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Speaker 3: It's the ultimate comeback.

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Speaker 5: Scoreboard.

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Speaker 5: They looked really good. And the thing I was most

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Speaker 5: He had tightrope surgery to fix his high ankle spring.

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Speaker 5: maybe seven. I don't know if I have that right.

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Speaker 5: He looked the same, just dominating touchdown at the end.

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Speaker 5: He's unbelievable like he is. I don't even know how

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Speaker 3: What have I told you about guys like that?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Tell me I've seen him. You've seen them,

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Speaker 5: I've seen them.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I'm I hope you remember. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: this right. I'm not. I'm not. He's probably a great kid,

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Speaker 3: I've seen Kyle Pitts and Oj Howards, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna also, I'm gonna also say this, the tailgating

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking to myself, are lots here for for a

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Speaker 3: And and like you said, it's an all day party.

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Speaker 3: And the miniatures they're billionaires. And the miniatures generator, Oh

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Speaker 5: There's just this low rumble of generators all across the town.

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Speaker 5: They're watching all the games before the night game.

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Speaker 3: That's uh, well, that's good. I'm glad you had a

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Speaker 5: I was glad I got to experience it, you know,

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Speaker 3: You showed me the video of the guys. Can't not

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Speaker 3: They don't let just anybody on the sidelines, right, they

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Speaker 3: They just keep it clear. You know, there's some people

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Speaker 3: They've got a job down there. Yeah, they don't just

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Speaker 5: You're in the upper level, you do. We were in

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Speaker 5: It was pretty cool. It was you know, that's a

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Speaker 3: Herschel Walker ran between. Well, that's right.

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Speaker 5: And somebody told me during the nineteen ninety six Olympics,

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Speaker 5: But let's get to the phones because we got to

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Speaker 5: talk Bill's broncos here and your keys to victory for Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: And we lead off today with Lou in Toronto. What

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Speaker 10: Hi, guys, how are you doing good. This is not

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Speaker 10: since Joe ferguson Bill's finn. Okay, do you guys think

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Speaker 10: isn't snake that tell me what.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll see you're right, Leo. You can have people

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Speaker 5: All teams with a handful of championships.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all those teams that have had it, they'll tell

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Speaker 3: It's human nature. So yeah, Bills fans have you know,

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Speaker 3: to the like we were saying the scoreboard, we got

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Speaker 3: super Bowls. I don't know if you heard. So you

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Speaker 3: can call, you know, snake bit all you want. But

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Speaker 3: every team does. Every team does.

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Speaker 5: Example.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even the ones that you would, Bills fans

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Speaker 3: would be like, yeah, I wish I was snake bit

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Speaker 3: like that, right, So there you go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to.

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Speaker 3: Good, but no, Leo, every team is different every day.

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Speaker 5: It was Lo in Toronto, my bad.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, lou every team's got that stuff going on.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just I'm with you. But I'm I'm like,

450
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Speaker 3: like I said, I'm kind of Oscar optimistic. I'm I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 3: make your own, make your own breaks. You make your

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Speaker 3: own breaks. And every team from this year, this this team,

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Speaker 3: even though Josh is on the team and all these

454
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Speaker 3: guys are on the team, same coaches on the team,

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Speaker 3: all every you know, the staff. Everybody's still here from

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Speaker 3: last year or two years ago, three years ago, how

457
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Speaker 3: long now? Every year is completely different, every team, every

458
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Speaker 3: locker room is a little different. So you know to

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Speaker 3: to say it all carries over and that there's some

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Speaker 3: sort of overarching thing going on.

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Speaker 5: No, no, let's go back to the phones and to

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Speaker 5: Charles and Amhurst. Next.

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Speaker 11: What do you got for us, Charles, Hi, gentlemen, I

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Speaker 11: would like to see James Cook get.

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Speaker 10: At least fifteen carries tonight.

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Speaker 11: And I'd like to see some more passes in the

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Speaker 11: flat film. And I would also like to see Dolphin

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Speaker 11: Kincaide get a little deep. I'd like to see a

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Speaker 11: couple deeper out routes and some deep post patterns. I

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Speaker 11: will hang up and let you let's listen, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, Thanks, Charles, appreciate that. I thanks for picking up

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Speaker 5: my drumstick and banging my James Cook drum because I

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Speaker 5: believe he should get more opportunities, particularly in the passing game,

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Speaker 5: because I think he can do damage in space. I've

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Speaker 5: said it many times. In my estimation, he is the

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Speaker 5: second most dynamic athlete on offense after Stefan Dicks, so

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Speaker 5: he should get more involved and should get more opportunities

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Speaker 5: in space to make plays for this football team. I

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Speaker 5: think the offense will be more consistent staying on the

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Speaker 5: field and finishing drives if they utilize him to that degree.

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Speaker 5: So I'm all for that. But you want to take

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Speaker 5: the you want to take the Dalton Kincaid, you know,

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Speaker 5: deeper routes. He hadn't run down the scene very much.

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Speaker 5: You know, when you think about it, I can't recall

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Speaker 5: a catch that.

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Speaker 3: Way, right, You're right he is. I don't think we've

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Speaker 3: seen him go deep. The Denver Broncos have allowed more

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Speaker 3: catches and yards to tight ends than anybody in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League this season, So there's that out there.

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Speaker 3: You may see it with Kincaid this week. Certainly he

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Speaker 3: has emerged as the number two option in the offensive

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Speaker 3: passing game, and I would expect that to continue. Whether

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Speaker 3: they need him or want him to do different routes

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Speaker 3: like more the kind that you're talking about, Charles, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. As long as he keeps going, yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: got to keep catching. He's got a great ratio targets

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Speaker 3: to catch ratio, and as long as he stays highly efficient,

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Speaker 3: which he has, man, I don't it's not broken. It's

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Speaker 3: not broken.

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Speaker 5: Oh no. I mean he's got twenty three receptions in

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Speaker 5: his last three games. The only guy with more is TJ.

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Speaker 5: Hockinson with twenty four. That's the only tight end in

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Speaker 5: football with more catches than him over the last three games.

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Speaker 3: Just wish for more of that, you know.

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Speaker 5: He's and he's fourth in receiving yards over the last

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Speaker 5: three games too, among tight ends. The only guys in

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Speaker 5: front of him are Hockinson, Kelsey, and Kittle. He's fourth

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Speaker 5: behind those threes.

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Speaker 3: He's got forty catches, So.

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Speaker 5: Running deep routes is not really not Running deep routes

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Speaker 5: has not really impacted his productivity in any way, shape

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Speaker 5: or form. He's among the lead leaders.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be at He's going to be right at

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Speaker 3: the NFL record with eighty one catches. It looks like

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Speaker 3: eighty one is the record set by uh Pitt for rookies.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Yeah, that we'll see. It's got a

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Speaker 3: ways to go, no questions, got to stay healthy and

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. But I don't think there's anything that

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Speaker 3: I would change too much about what they're doing except

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Speaker 3: maybe give him more, you know. So I think he

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Speaker 3: got to give him him a chance when I know

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Speaker 3: Diggs is number one, and he should be and he

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Speaker 3: should stay that way. But there's no question kin Kid

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Speaker 3: is the number two.

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Speaker 5: We have to take a break here because when we

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Speaker 5: come back, we're going to talk a little Broncos with

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Speaker 5: former NFL offensive lineman who played eight seasons in the league,

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Speaker 5: including two with the Broncos, winning Super Bowl fifty with Denver.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Columbus joins us next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 5: presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 5: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Time to talk some

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Speaker 5: Broncos here in advance of tonight's game between the Bills

533
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Speaker 5: and Broncos. Here to help us do that is a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty champion with Denver, also spent eight seasons

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Speaker 5: in the league as an offensive lineman, two of which

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Speaker 5: were with the Broncos. Current sports radio host on the

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Speaker 5: Altitude ninety two to five FM in Denver, it is

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Speaker 5: Tie Plumbus joining us. Tyler, how are we doing? Thanks

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Speaker 5: for giving us some time today.

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Speaker 12: I'm doing great. Christ's Dave. Good to be with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on. You know we from here. We're

542
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Speaker 3: you know, one thousand miles away from Denver, and we

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Speaker 3: saw the hiring of Sean Payton, saw how they got

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Speaker 3: the season got off to a the kind of start

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Speaker 3: that it did. But man, oman, from here, it seems like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: maybe they bottomed out, you know, giving up seventy points

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Speaker 3: earlier in the season all that, But man o, man,

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Speaker 3: it seems like now they've kind of got it together

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Speaker 3: back on the tracks and they're starting to ascend. Plus,

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Speaker 3: you know, beating the Chiefs going into the by had

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Speaker 3: to be a huge boost for what's going on out there.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think there's a lot of guys that are

553
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Speaker 13: still a wait and see boat with this Broncos team.

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Speaker 13: You beat a bad Backers team, but then did follow

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Speaker 13: it up and you finally beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 12: And the Chiefs has beat.

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Speaker 13: The Broncos sixteen straight times. So it's good to get

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Speaker 13: that monkey out their back. You know, they've got a

559
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Speaker 13: defense right now that is just quietly doing their thing.

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Speaker 13: They give up seventy points to Miami early in the

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Speaker 13: season and everybody's trying to run danced out of town.

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Speaker 13: But he's really held that group together. They love playing

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Speaker 13: for him. He's got great energy. The guys just enjoy

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Speaker 13: being around him, and so he's got those guys played

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Speaker 13: better football. You know, offensively for the Broncos, they're doing

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Speaker 13: simple things. They're running the ball, they're limiting how many

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Speaker 13: times Russell Wilson throws the football.

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Speaker 12: But the key to victory gets a team like the Bills,

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Speaker 12: much like it was last week.

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Speaker 13: It's it's no secret you gotta find turnovers because the

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Speaker 13: Bills are a far more powerful team than the Broncos

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Speaker 13: are this week, just like the Chiefs were.

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Speaker 12: But crazy things happened with turnovers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they had five last week, which was pretty

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Speaker 5: pretty impressive. And I know they come in bunches. I

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Speaker 5: know people in Buffalo are hoping that streak kind of

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Speaker 5: comes to an end uneceremoniously for the Broncos this week.

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Speaker 5: But you mentioned how the offensive approach has kind of flipped.

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Speaker 5: You know, they were trying to throw it all over

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Speaker 5: the yard and kind of have Russell care of the offense,

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Speaker 5: and that clearly wasn't working. And you know, they go

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Speaker 5: from thirty nine percent run percentage team through the first

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Speaker 5: five games to a fifty five percent run team over

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Speaker 5: the last three and it's worked. It's kind of helped

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Speaker 5: that defense by not throwing them out on the field

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Speaker 5: so much, and the offense has seemingly found some traction here.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and look, this is what the Broncos need to

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Speaker 12: be doing right now.

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Speaker 13: Is it a recipe for long term success, playoff success,

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Speaker 13: championship aspirations? It's probably not. I mean, look how an

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Speaker 13: offensive lineman, I love running the football. But the reasons

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Speaker 13: why they're going about it, it's not so much because

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Speaker 13: they love the Broncos offensive line, although they are doing

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Speaker 13: a much better job than what most people think the

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Speaker 13: Broncos offensive line and slowly surely do with their deal.

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Speaker 13: The main reason why they've gone about this offensive approach

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Speaker 13: is because Sean Payton is really trying to limit Russell

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Speaker 13: Wilson's impact on the football game. So in the big picture,

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Speaker 13: they got to find ways to have Russ drive. Look,

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Speaker 13: Russ is making two hundred and fifty million dollars, that's

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Speaker 13: a quarter billion. He's got to go out there and

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Speaker 13: he's got to earn his key. Early in the season,

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Speaker 13: the story with Russell Wilson was that he's not losing

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Speaker 13: football games. That was true, he was not losing football games.

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Speaker 13: But I guess forgive me for wanting more out of

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Speaker 13: guy that's fixed two hundred and fifty million dollars. I

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Speaker 13: don't want the storyline to be he's not losing football games.

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Speaker 13: I want him to win some football games. And at

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Speaker 13: some point, you're gonna go up against the team like

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Speaker 13: the Bills, whether they're clicking or not.

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Speaker 12: And obviously something's wrong with the Bills right now as well.

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Speaker 13: But you're gonna go up against the team that's four

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Speaker 13: thirty to thirty three points and you got to out

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Speaker 13: duel them at some point.

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Speaker 12: You can't just do that with the running game.

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Speaker 3: And what do you think is the key for the

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Speaker 3: bro I mean, certainly, he said. Obviously, if you can

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Speaker 3: get a bunch of turnovers, everything changes. Bad teams can

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Speaker 3: be great teams. But if the Broncos want to go

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Speaker 3: toe to toe with Buffalo, what is it going to

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Speaker 3: look like?

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Speaker 13: Well, I think you gotta have great defense and maybe

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Speaker 13: you guys catch me up to speed here, but the

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Speaker 13: Bills are down a lot of players on defense, and

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Speaker 13: you got to take advantage of that. So take advantage

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Speaker 13: of the running game. You set the tone. You're on

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Speaker 13: first team. That's great. Every quarterback in the NFL is

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Speaker 13: better off of play action, including Russell Wilson. He just

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Speaker 13: so happens to be one of the best quarterbacks in

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Speaker 13: the NFL off the play action. So utilize that running game,

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Speaker 13: take those deep shots over the top. You still have

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Speaker 13: to get explosive plays on offense, and that's the piece

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Speaker 13: that's been missing here a little bit. Is they've just

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Speaker 13: been dinking diacon dinkin. They gotta dunk every now and then.

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Speaker 13: So you got to dunk on top of the Buffalo bills,

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Speaker 13: and then defensively, you got to create some chaos for

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Speaker 13: Josh Allen. Hopefully it creates some turnovers.

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Speaker 5: All right. So being a former offensive lineman, this is

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Speaker 5: a good question for you. We see that, you know,

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Speaker 5: in the win over the Chiefs, they only drop back

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Speaker 5: and throw it nineteen times, but Wilson is sacked six

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Speaker 5: times and pressured on ten others that sixteen out of nineteen, Tyler,

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Speaker 5: is this a persistent Is this a persistent issue here

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Speaker 5: because the one area of Buffalo's defense that is pretty

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Speaker 5: healthy is their pass rushers up front.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, it is a consistent issue. It's been going

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Speaker 13: on all season long. You brought in Mike be Glinchy,

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Speaker 13: the forty nine ers. He gave him a whole Brinks

649
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Speaker 13: truck full of money, and he's been a flat out

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Speaker 13: liability in the passing game. The offensive line is doing

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Speaker 13: a decent job running the football. Pass protection, that's a

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Speaker 13: different story. You got Von Miller the first time that

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Speaker 13: Vaughn's been able to play the Broncos since he's left,

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Speaker 13: which is hard for me to believe that was just

655
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 13: three seasons ago. It feels like a lifetime. At this point,

656
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Speaker 13: Von obviously isn't fully clicking yet. I don't know if

657
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 13: he's fully healthy or not, but i'd imagine, you know,

658
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 13: I believe Von when he said it's not a revenge

659
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 13: game for him, but everybody likes to play good against

660
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 13: the former team. Everybody likes to play good against their

661
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 13: old friends. So i'd imagine Von Miller's could be extra motivated.

662
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Speaker 13: One thing that the Broncos did better last week in

663
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Speaker 13: pass protection. They started utilizing a whole lot of chips.

664
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Speaker 13: They started channeling their pass rushers just by tight ends

665
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 13: formation and using max personal and using max protection. Or

666
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 13: early in the season they were not doing that. I

667
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 13: would imagine they're gonna have to do a whole lot

668
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Speaker 13: of that again.

669
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Speaker 3: When you get down in the red zone. Defensively, for

670
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: the Broncos, they've got one of the best red zone

671
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: defenses in the league. Is that a situation of that

672
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 3: they got really you know, what's the difference down there?

673
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 3: I mean they've really in the red zone, They've They've

674
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: been stellar, whereas for most of these they have not.

675
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Speaker 13: They've been really, really good in the red zone. I

676
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 13: think they've got a couple turnovers down there, which helps

677
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 13: you know. It's no secret when you get down in

678
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 13: the red zone it gets tough for every offense in

679
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 13: the NFL. The field shortens up and the safetys are

680
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 13: able to get tighter down there in the box. I

681
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 13: don't have the magic answer for you. I don't know

682
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 13: what they're doing differently down there in the red zone,

683
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 13: but it certainly has been a difference of giving you

684
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 13: an opportunity to win a few games. Look, they've only

685
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 13: won three, so we're not going crazy here, but it's

686
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 13: given you an opportunity to win a few games, and

687
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 13: if you can keep Buffalo out of the end zone,

688
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 13: hold them to three, that would go long ways.

689
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Speaker 5: The last one I've got for you, Tyler, is we

690
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 5: see that on the receiving end of things. After Judy

691
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 5: and Sudden, it goes running back running back running back,

692
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 5: I mean Javonte Williams and my JP Ryn you know,

693
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 5: and Julia McLaughlin our third, fourth and fifth on this

694
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: team in receptions. How are they utilized in the passing game?

695
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 5: Is this just a strict check down swing pass outlet

696
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Speaker 5: kind of thing or is it a little bit more

697
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Speaker 5: complex than that. With the backs, well, I mean.

698
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Speaker 13: You're hitting the nail on the head here. For the

699
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 13: most part, they do have a guy named Marvin Mims,

700
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Speaker 13: who I hope you learn all about him this weekend,

701
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 13: because Martin Mems is a rookie who every single time

702
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 13: he touches the football is flat out explosive. He's the

703
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 13: guy that's gonna take the roof off the top of

704
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 13: the defense, and he's got an incredible opportunity to make

705
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 13: plays every single week. Sean Payton has set after bye

706
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 13: week and he's going to emphasize trying to get him

707
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Speaker 13: involved in the game a little bit more often. You know,

708
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 13: the Broncos wide receiver room is the most expensive wide

709
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 13: receiver room in the NFL, which is not good when

710
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 13: you consider how little production you're getting out of that room.

711
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Speaker 13: Jerry Judy has just been up and down since today.

712
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Speaker 13: He's got here. I think Courtland Sutton is a very

713
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 13: solid wide receiver, probably should be a number two wide receiver,

714
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 13: but he's the number one on this team. He's gonna

715
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 13: get all the fifty to fifty balls. They really need

716
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Speaker 13: Jerry Judy to figure it out. I mean, he was

717
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 13: drafted number fifteen overall and in that draft class that

718
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 13: was considered the greatest wide receiver draft class in history.

719
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Speaker 13: It's the highest selected wide receiver in the history of

720
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Speaker 13: the Denver Broncos. They need Jerry Judy to click. But

721
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Speaker 13: the one name that I'm telling everybody keep an eye

722
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Speaker 13: out for if I'm going to believe Sean Payton and

723
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 13: I want to, is that they're going to get Martin mevs.

724
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Speaker 6: Involved.

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Speaker 3: Man. Thanks a lot, Tyler, appreciate you. I know you're

726
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: gonna be watching this game just like we are. Good

727
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: luck the rest of the way and maybe either other week,

728
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: but you know, go Broncos next week, right, So.

729
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Speaker 12: Good deal, guys. Happy to be on with you.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 5: It's Tyler Columbus joining US. Former NFL offensive lineman played

732
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Speaker 5: a couple of seasons with the Broncos, including Super Bowl fifty.

733
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 5: So he's got a ring and does local radio there

734
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Speaker 5: in Denver now on the altitude ninety two to five FM.

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Speaker 3: Teammate Von Millers back in, yeah, fifty minutes right when

736
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Speaker 3: they won it and Vaughn was the MVP.

737
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I've heard a lot about Marvin Mims because

738
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Speaker 5: a lot of the write ups out there in Denver

739
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: is like, hey, the kids leading the league and kick

740
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: return average and punt return average, how are you not

741
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 5: utilizing this guy on the offensive side of the ball.

742
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Speaker 3: I hear that. I think it's it's you know, it's not.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it's coach speak. Yes, is what you're

744
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: gonna say.

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Speaker 3: It's fan logic is what it is. Just because a

746
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: guy can return kicks doesn't mean he can go out

747
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: and run around and get open.

748
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Speaker 5: It's pretty prolific at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: I get it. But all I'm saying is, you know,

750
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: it's one doesn't equal to the other. Look at you know,

751
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: Devin Hester was the greatest return man of all time.

752
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 3: They said, hey, let's get him the ball. They turned

753
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: him into a very mediocre starting wide receiver. Yeah, very mediocre.

754
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Speaker 3: That's the way it works just because you can you

755
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: got the ball in your hands. As a kick returner

756
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: with space isn't the same as going out, getting a release,

757
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 3: running a route, shaking a guy off, making a tough

758
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: catch and turning it up the field. It's it's completely different. Yeah,

759
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: so I get it it. You know, he's intriguing, he's

760
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Speaker 3: got some town obviously, some athletics, and he's got some

761
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: juice to stretch. Different skill set the why that's why

762
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: a tight end can't play linebacker. So you know that's

763
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Speaker 3: it's fan logic.

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Speaker 4: O to me.

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Speaker 3: This week's game again, it doesn't mean today happen. I mean,

766
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, this week's game against the Broncos is presented

768
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 5: by Independent Health. Independent Health. You deserve the red shirt treatment.

769
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the phones though, at eight h

770
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: three oh five fifty, where we've got an open line

771
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 5: for you. We are asking you for your keys to

772
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 5: a Bill's victory. Next up is Mark in New Jersey.

773
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Speaker 5: What do you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 14: How you doing?

775
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 9: CV?

776
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Speaker 14: And thanks for taking my call? You and Steve, Yeah,

777
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 14: this city was frustrating. They have eight games left, which

778
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 14: is encouraging you know they have everything out in front

779
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 14: of them, so I'm fine with that. Just watching it

780
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 14: just reinforces I think the Bills are just always been

781
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 14: just they're just reactive instead of proactive. And you see,

782
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 14: like you said, Houston goes into Cincinnati and cool, they

783
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 14: were like, okay, fine. The forty nine ers, who are

784
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 14: a good football team, they go on the road to

785
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 14: Jacksonville and just they lay it on them, and it's

786
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 14: just frustrating the Bills just like, we're gonna play our game.

787
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 14: You have to react to us. Do you know you

788
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 14: have to play us. We're not going to just wait

789
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 14: for you to show us something and then react to it.

790
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 14: Similar to like, god, what Dallas did. The Bills couldn't

791
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 14: do that to the Giants at home, and I know

792
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 14: they had the whole dayble dynamic going. It's not like

793
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 14: you know me and you watch soccer CEB. It's not

794
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 14: like it's Burnley versus man City where you're just gonna

795
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 14: put ten behind the ball and just bank for one

796
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 14: point and hope you don't get beaten. So your goal

797
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 14: differential gets out of whack by like five or six plus.

798
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Speaker 14: I just like the Bills just need to like, hey,

799
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 14: we're gonna put this is what we do. Put the

800
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 14: pedal to the metal. You're gonna play us, keep up

801
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 14: with us. Remember Tally had a quote one time, we

802
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 14: didn't care how many times we had to get on

803
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 14: the field. If the offense was going to score touchdowns.

804
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 14: We looked at it as a cash register. Just let

805
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Speaker 14: it keep running.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Thank Yeah, Mark, You're right, it's

807
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 3: and it is a it's a fair trade if you're

808
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: and nobody. It's the thing with Josh. It's like the

809
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: thing with Josh Allen in his turnovers. He turns the

810
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: ball over a lot since eighteen. Nobody turns it over more,

811
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: but nobody cares when they're scoring thirty eight, thirty seven,

812
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: thirty four, forty eight. You know, when you're not doing that,

813
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: it's magnified. It's a problem. And that's why you play

814
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 3: the percentages. You know, you feel like if you've got

815
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: good players, it doesn't matter how fast or slow you go.

816
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: Let them play. There is something in that, no question,

817
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 3: where you're a little bit reactive. But every team is

818
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 3: reactive at certain points in the game where they where

819
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: the defense gets a step ahead and makes adjustment. You

820
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: got to adjust to do it. So and but here's

821
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: the thing, and and you're ru you're right, but you're

822
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: not right. You do react, but you don't react just

823
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: to stop them from having success. You react in a

824
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: way that you think is going to crush them. You

825
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: got them now, so you have the upper hand. You're

826
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: gonna get the upper hand. You go, you get out

827
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: in front of their reaction to your success. That's how

828
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: it works. You're not going out there to react and say,

829
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, we got to stop the bleeding and

830
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: patch it. You're not doing that. You're you know, you.

831
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Speaker 5: Pull your hand out from the bottom of the pile

832
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Speaker 5: and put it on top of their hand.

833
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, you don't pull Yeah, even that, you don't

834
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: pull your hand out of the bottom pile, put on top.

835
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: You take your hand out, grab a bat and hat

836
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: their head. That's what you do. That's the idea of Okay,

837
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: you go outside the box. And that's what it is.

838
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: And I get it. It seemed, you know, when you

839
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: get these teams that are kind of reacting, react and reacting,

840
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: and it's it's this like this Princess Bride movie. I

841
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: don't know I anybody's that familiar with it. We're saying,

842
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: I know that, you know that, I know that you

843
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: know that, and and that's what you're into. You're trying

844
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: to get your team to do some things. You know

845
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: you they're having success on you. Are they gonna think

846
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: that you're gonna re react now and they think they

847
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: got to handle where you're gonna go with your reaction,

848
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: and then they'll get out another head. They'll make an

849
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: adjustment before they even think they need to, you know

850
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

851
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 5: So, so they put the hammer down and pick up

852
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 5: a chainsaw.

853
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: Right, they put us they put the sword down and

854
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 3: pick up a bone arrow, you know that kind of thing.

855
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: It's it's what are they gonna do next? And that's

856
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: why it is a little bit reactive, and that's why

857
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: really good players trump everything. Right then they can close

858
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 3: that gap and they don't care what you got.

859
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we had Eric Wood on the show last week.

860
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: He was talking about the Bills offense, dictating play more

861
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 5: to the opponent going forward, and we talked about it

862
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 5: on our Bills by the Numbers podcast. The same thing,

863
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 5: whether it's going fast with tempo, whether it's dictating with

864
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 5: scheme to make execution easier. For your players. There are

865
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: a number of different avenues you can go down to

866
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: get this thing working the way we're all used to

867
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 5: seeing it again. Break time for us here more of

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Speaker 5: your phone calls when we come back. Ron in California,

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Speaker 5: Bill in Texas will get to you when we get

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Speaker 5: to the phones we go where we're looking for your

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Speaker 5: keys to a Bill's victory tonight and to Ron in California.

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Speaker 5: What do you got for us? Ron?

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Speaker 15: Good afternoon, guys, afternoon.

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Speaker 16: I feel a.

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Speaker 15: Good chance in a victory is better control and failed positioning.

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Speaker 15: I think as a team in general, we lost control

880
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Speaker 15: of this main fact. I believe if the offense is

881
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Speaker 15: mindful of field position on third down plant calls and

882
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Speaker 15: three penalty situations, and with better placement of punts, we

883
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Speaker 15: will contain the other opposing team as to a longer

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Speaker 15: field challenge and go Bills.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Ron, that's a fair point. I will say this.

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Speaker 5: Steve Special teams has been able to escape criticism because

887
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: everybody's been focused on the offensive struggles, but special teams

888
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 5: has had a rough stretch here. They had a good

889
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Speaker 5: game against the Bucks, but sandwiched around that two subpar

890
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Speaker 5: performances against New England and against the Bengals where they

891
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 5: didn't effectively flip the field, you know, give the defense

892
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Speaker 5: a long field to defend, or give the offense favorable

893
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: field position. And you know, Tyler Bass had a rough

894
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Speaker 5: day a few weeks back up in New England, so

895
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Speaker 5: or maybe it was the week before that. They all

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Speaker 5: kind of run together. But my point is special teams

897
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Speaker 5: has a task tonight. This Marvin Mims kids, for real,

898
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Speaker 5: He's averaging twenty yards of punt return, yeah, over thirty

899
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Speaker 5: on kick return. Like, if it's me, I'm probably putting

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Speaker 5: it through the back of the end zone for touchbacks

901
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Speaker 5: all night. I'm not even giving them the ball, and

902
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Speaker 5: I might even punt it out of bounds because there's

903
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Speaker 5: been some stretches here where they've given up longer returns

904
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Speaker 5: and it's flipped the field. It's put the defense on

905
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Speaker 5: a short field. Steve, I don't know about you, but

906
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Speaker 5: knowing how shorthanded the defense is, I think you have

907
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Speaker 5: to do everything in your power to help ease the

908
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Speaker 5: burden on them tonight, even if it is a Broncos

909
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Speaker 5: team that has trouble scoring points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, special teams is about two of the aspects of

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Speaker 3: special teams are three basic points. One, it's the only

912
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Speaker 3: down where you're deliberately giving the football to your opponent,

913
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Speaker 3: even on kickoff and obviously on punt punt return, where

914
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Speaker 3: one team's gonna start to play with the ball and

915
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Speaker 3: they're giving it to the other team. Second thing is

916
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Speaker 3: field position. Ninety to ninety five percent of field positions

917
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Speaker 3: to determined by your kicking game. You got to get

918
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Speaker 3: it right. And of course the third thing is sometimes,

919
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: like with field goals, you're trying for points right away.

920
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Speaker 3: I mean that's huge. Points are the object of the game.

921
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Speaker 3: When you can't get a couple of those things right,

922
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Speaker 3: you can't turn it over, that's for sure. And if

923
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna get the field position thing done, you

924
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Speaker 3: got some problems. I know in the Cincinnati game, the

925
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Speaker 3: Bills got pinned down in their end time after time

926
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Speaker 3: after time, and it's a problem.

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Speaker 5: It's a problem, and well, it reduces your scoring percentage

928
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Speaker 5: just ten yards difference from like the twenty to the thirty,

929
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Speaker 5: your scoring percentage goes up like twelve percent, like meaning

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Speaker 5: you'll finish the drive with a touchdown some kind of

931
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Speaker 5: points instead of punting. It goes up like twelve to

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Speaker 5: fifteen percent just for those ten yards.

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Speaker 3: And he's right. It sounded like he was reading off

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Speaker 3: of script chat, GPT or something, you know, but no

935
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Speaker 3: question artificial intelligence. Nevertheless, he's he's got a point. If

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Speaker 3: you're gonna win and win consistently, all three phases got

937
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Speaker 3: to work and up and they haven't given much help,

938
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Speaker 3: although they had an enormous game uh with special teams

939
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Speaker 3: just a few weeks ago. And I can't remember which

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Speaker 3: one when when Shack had the block fields the.

941
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Speaker 5: Tampa game Tampa game, and Hardy had the return short field.

942
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Speaker 3: They had the big return and they had you know,

943
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Speaker 3: down punts inside the you know, the whole thing.

944
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Speaker 5: But sandwiched around that was three games where they didn't

945
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Speaker 5: really hold up there into the bargain.

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Speaker 3: But they get it does give you an idea of

947
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Speaker 3: how wide a swing and how big a difference it

948
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Speaker 3: can make.

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Speaker 5: The hidden yards, so to speak. So and sometimes the

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Speaker 5: difference is like one hundred and twenty hidden yards in

951
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Speaker 5: there where the other team's got, you know, significantly more

952
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Speaker 5: yards off of their special teams prowess than you do.

953
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Speaker 5: And oh, look at that, they've got fourteen more points

954
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Speaker 5: than us at the end of the game. How did

955
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Speaker 5: that happen? Let's go back to the phones and squeeze

956
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Speaker 5: bill in in Texas here before the break. What do

957
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Speaker 5: you got for his bill?

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Speaker 17: Oh, thank you for taking my call, gentlemen, and obviously

959
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Speaker 17: go bills. My key is the offensive line. If the

960
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Speaker 17: offensive line doesn't start making some holes for this running

961
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Speaker 17: back to run and protecting Josh Allen to keep him calm,

962
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Speaker 17: to let him make good decisions, you're going to be

963
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Speaker 17: a five We're going to be a five hundred team.

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Speaker 17: I haven't seen any team going forward that's won a

965
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Speaker 17: Super Bowl with the average offensive line. And that's what

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Speaker 17: I'm seeing playing out. Did we see what Devin Singletary

967
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Speaker 17: did yesterday to uh Cincinnati?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 17: I mean yeah, So it's not it's not the running back,

970
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Speaker 17: So what is it. It's got to be the offensive

971
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Speaker 17: line is not making holes. Second, the defensive line has

972
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 17: got to stop letting other teams run over us. It's

973
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 17: got to be done. The linebackers and the defensive line

974
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 17: have got to start doing that. I just the offensive line,

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00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 17: to me is the whole key, and they're just not

976
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 17: playing well. And I mean they're not playing terrible, but

977
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Speaker 17: they're not playing well well.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing you got to remember, Bill and Cincinnati Bengals. Notwithstanding,

979
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Speaker 3: as you know, Houston is a surging team. No question,

980
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: they played really well yesterday. I don't think the weakness

981
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: of the Houston Texans team is their offensive line. You're right,

982
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: Laramie Tunsell is a heck of a player, and the

983
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: guys around him are really good. But notwithstanding the Houston

984
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: Texans and where they're at with their roster, a lot

985
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Speaker 3: of teams look pretty bad playing against teams that the

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00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills are playing against. We'll pointed out against a

987
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: fifth place schedule. If you're going to talk about, you

988
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 3: know how tough the Tennessee Titans have it. They're playing

989
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: in a bad division against a fourth placed or third

990
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: place schedule. The Bills are playing the Chiefs, the Eagles,

991
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys, you know, all these teams. The Bills have

992
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: got a tougher schedule than most of those other teams. Now,

993
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: that's no excuse. They still got to go out there

994
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: and do it. But with a depleted roster from injuries,

995
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: it's gonna you're not gonna look your hundred percent. Yeah,

996
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: I will see, they're not gonna They're not giving any

997
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: excuses for you still gotta win. In there're still good

998
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: enough to win, but you got to fire on even

999
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: more cylinders in order to get it done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would say that the offensive line would

1001
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Speaker 5: probably tell you they didn't play their best last week

1002
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Speaker 5: against Cincinnati, and some of the run evidence is an

1003
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 5: indicator of that. You got to win up front. You

1004
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 5: hear coach McDermott say at all the time, you got

1005
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Speaker 5: to you gotta dominate upfront. And I think they've been

1006
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 5: a pretty good pass protection group. I mean, Josh has

1007
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 5: only been sacked thirteen times this season, to put it

1008
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Speaker 5: in perspective, Russell Wilson in one fewer game because they've

1009
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 5: only played eight games. He's been sacked twenty six times,

1010
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Speaker 5: twice as much as Josh. So I don't think pass

1011
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 5: protection is the issue. I think just a little bit

1012
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 5: more consistency in driving defenders off the line of scrimmage

1013
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 5: in the run game to to our Texas callers point

1014
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 5: would go a long way into kind of keeping this

1015
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 5: team on the field and finishing drives with points instead

1016
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: of having these quarter to quarter and a half lulls

1017
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Speaker 5: in their play where they're punting it four times in

1018
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: a row. Gotta take a break here, but when we

1019
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 5: come back, our number two will include more of your

1020
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 5: phone calls and comments on the tweets sheet. We're looking

1021
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Speaker 5: for your keys to a Bill's victory over the Broncos

1022
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Speaker 5: tonight on a Buffalo football game Day, Monday night. Here

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Speaker 5: on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 5: Bills Radio.

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00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: This this One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

1026
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 5: All Right, welcome to our number two on a Buffalo

1027
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 5: game Day Monday. It's Monday Night Football Bills Broncos. Broncos

1028
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 5: coming off the bye three and five, winners of their

1029
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: last two Buffalo trading wins with losses each of the

1030
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Speaker 5: last six weeks, which is a big reason why they

1031
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Speaker 5: are now five and four and in the heat of

1032
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Speaker 5: an AFC Conference playoff race. But what we want from

1033
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Speaker 5: you today are your keys to a Bill's victory to

1034
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 5: lift them to a six and four mark after ten

1035
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 5: games played at the end of tonight's game, eight three five,

1036
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 5: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to get

1037
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 5: on board. We do have open lines for you, so

1038
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 5: chime in if you're willing and able. Otherwise hit us

1039
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 5: up on the tweetsheet. At one Bill's Live, we go

1040
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 5: to Mark in West Seneca to lead us off in

1041
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 5: this hour. What's that Mark?

1042
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 18: Hey, guys, good afternoon. How are you today?

1043
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 5: Well, we're holding up here.

1044
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 18: Well, that's good. That's good. Game day is always good.

1045
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 18: I have a question for you about Micah Hyde. I'm

1046
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 18: a little concerned. I haven't heard much about his injury.

1047
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 18: Can you guys elaborate on what you know about what's

1048
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 18: going on with him? If his injury. Last I heard

1049
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 18: was he had a stinger and then all of a

1050
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 18: sudden the following week he's not playing and we all

1051
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 18: know about the neck injury. So I'm wondering is his

1052
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 18: injury related to that neck injury?

1053
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we have no reason to believe that it is.

1054
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 5: But coach McDermott actually addressed it late in the week.

1055
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Speaker 5: He was asked, you know, with Micah Hyde's next surgery

1056
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Speaker 5: last year, is there a concern that this injury will

1057
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Speaker 5: be exacerbated based on his medical history, and coach McDermott

1058
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Speaker 5: gave no indication that that would be the case. He

1059
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Speaker 5: basically said, while the injury is close to the same

1060
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Speaker 5: area where he had the surgery, the nature of the

1061
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Speaker 5: injury is not the same. So according to coach McDermott,

1062
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Speaker 5: he does not expect the injury to linger and be

1063
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Speaker 5: a long term thing. We don't have a timetable on it,

1064
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Speaker 5: you know, so I think everything is on the table

1065
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Speaker 5: as to how much time he could miss. But I

1066
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Speaker 5: think if it was something more serious, I would anticipate

1067
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Speaker 5: that ir would be more of a consideration where you

1068
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Speaker 5: would miss at least four games. That hasn't happened yet.

1069
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it won't, but based on what we

1070
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Speaker 5: got in terms of feedback from coach McDermott, it doesn't

1071
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Speaker 5: sound like a lingering, long term injury, which is certainly

1072
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Speaker 5: good news knowing his medical history.

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Speaker 3: Right now, here's the thing. I mean, he was out

1074
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Speaker 3: all week of practice. He didn't even try it comes back,

1075
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Speaker 3: so you kind of probably think his pretty significant state,

1076
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Speaker 3: it wasn't like come back. He was limited and he

1077
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Speaker 3: was out again.

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Speaker 5: I think it's the last quarter and a half of

1079
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Speaker 5: the game. And the worst part was it happened on

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Speaker 5: a late hit. That guy got fined for that hit,

1081
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Speaker 5: right Cordell Vohlson jersey number sixty seven on the Cincinnati

1082
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 5: Bengals in case you want a license plate.

1083
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the cheap shot that was, Yeah, that's the

1084
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: way it goes. And so he that hit happened, and

1085
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: he's been done ever since. So and we have not

1086
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: because we have not gotten any information about saying, hey,

1087
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, it didn't happen early in the week where

1088
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 3: they said, hey, he's definitely out. He wasn't out until Friday.

1089
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: So I think there is probably I think this probably

1090
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: not season threatening, but there's nothing that says he has

1091
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 3: to come back this next week either against the Jets.

1092
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: So we'll see.

1093
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 5: Let's go to Phil in Niagara Falls next. What's up Phil?

1094
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 19: Hello, I have a two part question, number one on offense. First,

1095
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 19: I'm gonna say I can't fault McDermott on defense being

1096
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 19: having half your defense injured. Now about the offense, two

1097
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 19: part question, I don't see anything like that resembles any

1098
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 19: Jets sweeps. We're not running that like we did before.

1099
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 19: And I have not seen a screen pass in the arsenal.

1100
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 19: I'm wondering about that. And as far as the offensive

1101
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 19: line goes, I believe when we picked up the young

1102
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 19: guy from Dallas, our left guard, they said he wasn't

1103
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 19: the best run blocker. On the other hand, I've watched

1104
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 19: Ryan Bates be a devastating run blocker, and I know

1105
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 19: they're keeping him for a swing lineman. In the meantime,

1106
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 19: he's on the bench and I like Ryan Bates a lot.

1107
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 19: I think he's a beast, and I think he should

1108
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 19: be in there. What are your thoughts?

1109
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: Well, actually, I'm kind of in a different spot. I

1110
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 3: was under the impression that when they got Connor mcdermoth

1111
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: from all he was a really government govern Conor McGovern

1112
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 3: from a from Dallas, he was a really good run blocker,

1113
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: and pass pro was an issue, and that's why we

1114
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: were all hot. When they got Latavious Murray and and

1115
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: uh Damien Harris and James Cook, we thought, you know,

1116
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: they might and going under center a little bit. So

1117
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: I'm I heard just the opposite of what you did,

1118
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: Phil about Connor McGovern. But but I I'm I don't

1119
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem very much a problem with

1120
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: what the offensive line is doing these days. I mean,

1121
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: certainly they always every offensive line can play better, and

1122
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're the best in the league, but

1123
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they've been the issue going at a

1124
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: point this year.

1125
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say this too, with regard to play

1126
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: selection and things of that nature. The main impetus of

1127
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 5: signing Connor McGovern and drafting Osiris Torrance was to fortify

1128
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 5: the interior of the line so that pass rushers would

1129
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: not get backed up into the pocket and prevent Josh

1130
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 5: from stepping into throws, which happened more often than we

1131
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 5: wanted to see last season. So the concerted effort there

1132
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 5: was to get bigger and stronger inside, and they did

1133
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: that with McGovern and Torrents, and Josh has been able

1134
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 5: to step into a lot more throws. He has not had

1135
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: to vacate the pocket quite as much because the interior

1136
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 5: of the line has been pretty sound as far as

1137
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 5: pass protection goes. When it comes to the screen game,

1138
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, it has been a trouble spot for them.

1139
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 5: I will say they have tried and worked hard to

1140
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 5: incorporate more screens into their game plans. We saw Stefan

1141
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 5: Diggs last week on a receiver screen. It was the

1142
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: longest play from scrimmage for them, thirty two yards in

1143
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 5: the lost to Cincinnati. So they've been more effective running

1144
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 5: screens out on the perimeter with receivers and tight ends

1145
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 5: blocking in front. Then they have more of the traditional

1146
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: screens with linemen getting out. Whether that changes or whether

1147
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 5: it's something that they can unveil down the stretch here

1148
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 5: remains to be seen. But I do understand your point.

1149
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 5: You know you want it, You should be able to

1150
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 5: run a screenplay in the NFL.

1151
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1152
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,479
Speaker 3: I remember at some point during the Tampa Bay game

1153
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 3: there were like three things that they ran a screen

1154
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: pass to cook. They had a couple of other things happening.

1155
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my gosh, look at that. They're doing

1156
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: stuff that we haven't seen it. Ah, I haven't seen

1157
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, more of that, please, I guess, is

1158
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: what we're saying. And maybe maybe they will tonight. Maybe

1159
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: they won't, but and maybe there's an even better reason

1160
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: why we haven't seen it. Nevertheless, there was has been

1161
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: a point in this season where, by sharp contrast, we

1162
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: saw all that stuff we hadn't seen, and we saw

1163
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 3: it all in one game, and it was a game

1164
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: they won. So I think a lot of us are like,

1165
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: why don't we see that more? Let's try that, keep

1166
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: doing that stuff that's working.

1167
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go to Mark on a sale next. We

1168
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 5: got first Mark here on one Bill's Live.

1169
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 16: Hey, guys. So my theory is that I don't think

1170
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 16: our defense is Actually I think mcdermomy is doing a

1171
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 16: very good job with our defense considering all things you

1172
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 16: know that they're missing. But I don't know. I just

1173
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 16: need that offense to put teams away early. That's the

1174
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 16: best thing you can do for your defense. Put the offense,

1175
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 16: the opposing offense on their heels where your defense now

1176
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 16: knows what they're doing. A perfect example is going back

1177
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 16: to the Tampa Bay game. They had that game won.

1178
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 16: They now they won the game, okay, but they hit

1179
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 16: that game one, and I was so disappointed that when

1180
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 16: they were third and fourth and short, or they're third

1181
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 16: and short and they're in the shotgun and they're on

1182
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 16: the opposite side of the fifty, and they could have

1183
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 16: they could have quarterbacks sneaked it at when it was

1184
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 16: fourth and one or third and one and put that

1185
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 16: game away right then. And there possibly even driven down

1186
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 16: the field and got at least a field ball and

1187
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 16: the game would have been over. I just don't understand

1188
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 16: why they go so conservative right away when they have

1189
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 16: things that are working and they got it. They've gone

1190
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 16: from a team that was putting up thirty five to

1191
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 16: forty points to who knows what they're gonna get nowadays.

1192
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 16: You know, and that's and you see things that work,

1193
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 16: and then all of a sudden you don't see it

1194
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 16: at all.

1195
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying, Mark. I

1196
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 5: think the circumstances of the game played into that a

1197
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 5: little bit. Tampa's offense was doing zippo when they had

1198
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 5: the ball in that game, so coach McDermott decided to

1199
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 5: play field position and give his defense a long field,

1200
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 5: knowing that the way that game was going, Tampa wasn't

1201
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 5: gonna do a whole heck of a lot. Now, they

1202
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 5: did get a touchdown late to make it close on

1203
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 5: a lucky bounce off of Christian Benford's helmet into the

1204
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 5: waiting arms of Mike Evans for a thirty yard touchdown,

1205
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 5: But I think he was playing. He was using the

1206
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 5: game to help make a determination and that's a wise

1207
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 5: move because you can't treat the percentages in a vacuum,

1208
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 5: like if you're for example, the Bills are like fifty

1209
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 5: five percent conversion on fourth down this year, Well, how

1210
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 5: many of those fourth downs are more than two yards?

1211
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 5: So if it's fourth and four, just because you convert

1212
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 5: fifty five percent, does that mean you go for it

1213
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 5: on fourth and four? How's your defense playing if you

1214
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 5: punt the ball, where is it going to go? Is

1215
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 5: it gonna be pinning them inside their twenty? Is your

1216
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 5: punter having a good day because Sam Martin had a

1217
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 5: rough night in Cincinnati last week. So there's all these

1218
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 5: other variables that go into the stew besides just what

1219
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 5: the numbers say. And so I think too many coaches

1220
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 5: today are criticized for being too old school and too

1221
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 5: archaic because they don't use the live analytics. The Bills

1222
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 5: use it, they just don't let it rule the day.

1223
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: And actually, if you look at the charts across the league,

1224
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 5: the Bills are ahead of the curve in terms of

1225
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 5: incorporating analytics into their game day decision making in a

1226
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 5: pretty effective way. I mean, they're among the top five

1227
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 5: or six teams in the league. Doing it the right way,

1228
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 5: so to speak.

1229
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: If there is such a one of one of the

1230
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: things about it is and the reason and one of

1231
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 3: the things I think the fans hate and I know

1232
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: I do, is when you know that analytics lead to

1233
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 3: games ending the way they have for the Buffalo Bills,

1234
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: because because it takes into account some things that it's

1235
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 3: hard for us to do. Like you go to the

1236
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay game, a game they were up twenty four

1237
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 3: to ten with ten minutes to go in the game,

1238
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: and they punt the ball to Tampa Bay and Tampa

1239
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: takes over on their eight yard line. Then that what

1240
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: happens is Tampa Bay goes because of the situation the

1241
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 3: Bills just you know, keeping everything in front of them,

1242
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: They go on a seventeen play Tampa Bay goes on

1243
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 3: a seventeen play eighty six yard drive. They hadn't had

1244
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: a drive go more than eight plays all night. They

1245
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: had an eight play drive and two seven play drives

1246
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: and one of those missed a field goal. One of

1247
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: them was a punt and the other one was a

1248
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: field goal. Those are the best drives they had all night.

1249
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: They had three and out, three and out, four and out,

1250
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: two and out an eternal on the interception. I mean

1251
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: it was they just couldn't get anything going offensively, So

1252
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 3: the Bill's punted to them at a time when you

1253
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: think or the Bills get the ball back after Tampa

1254
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: Bay put up together a seventeen play, eighty six yard drive,

1255
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: and the decisions that the Bills coaching staff was making

1256
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: on that drive were to keep it in front of them,

1257
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 3: make them go the long way. If Tampa Bay made

1258
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: one or two consecutive mistakes, they were off the field.

1259
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: They stayed on there, got to bounce off a helmet touchdown, not.

1260
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 5: To mention four fourth down opportunities.

1261
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: And they converted fourth downs, the whole thing. They go

1262
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: eighty six yards, they take seven minutes, one seconds, they

1263
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: take the they go seven minutes and twenty one seconds,

1264
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 3: you know, finally and they get the touchdown off the helmet,

1265
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: go for the two point and get it until now

1266
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 3: they're down six and the next time they get the

1267
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: ball back, it's twenty one seconds left. That's kind of

1268
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: what analytics does. It works the clock against an opponent

1269
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: who needs more than one possession. Now, in the NFL,

1270
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: I'll say this, most teams, when you put their back

1271
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 3: against the wall and they start cutting it loose, like

1272
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: the like Tampa Bay does. With ten oh five left

1273
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: to go, they get the ball, they got to it's tied,

1274
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 3: they're down two touchdowns. They know in the last quarter

1275
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: of the game, they got two scores they got to

1276
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: get and there's ten minutes left, so they got their

1277
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: back against the wall. They cut it loose. Most NFL

1278
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: teams and to me, this is where analytics kind of goes.

1279
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, I have to like doubt them. Most

1280
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: teams can pull that stuff off. They pull off a drive.

1281
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: They hadn't put it together a drive like that all season,

1282
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: and they go seventeen plays in eighty six yards when

1283
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: their backs are against the wall, which is where the

1284
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: Bills put them. So they come back and they get

1285
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: that one touchdown. But then as you see, you know,

1286
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: you got fourth down, you got four fourth downs, you

1287
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: got a ricochet off a helmet for a touchdown. You know,

1288
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 3: all that stuff has to go their way to win.

1289
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: It's the same thing that happened last year in the

1290
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 3: Minnesota game, Like six different things have to go their

1291
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: way for them to win the game. That's where analytics

1292
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: get you. Sometimes all that stuff that's incredibly unlikely. Sometimes

1293
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 3: it happens, and you know, then instead of keeping your

1294
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 3: foot on the gas and beating them fifth forty eight

1295
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 3: to twenty, you know, you beat them forty eight to forty.

1296
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 3: And that's uncomfortable for fans. That's where they're going to

1297
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 3: you know, you're you're coaching stinks because you can't put

1298
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: the hammer down. Well, in fact, they they're deliberately, as fans,

1299
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: they're deliberately shortening the game so that the team does

1300
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: doesn't have enough possessions to get back in it. And man,

1301
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: oh man, it looks sometimes it looks bad, I think.

1302
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 5: But Chargers fans, yesterday, their team scores thirty eight points

1303
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 5: and they lose because it can't stop anybody. So yeah,

1304
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 5: doesn't matter which way you slice it, loss is a loss.

1305
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 5: Win is a win.

1306
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: And I keep saying that I the recipe for this

1307
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: team to win their to me, to win their first

1308
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 3: championship like this year, is to just win these ugly

1309
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: games like the Tampa Bay game, like the Giants game,

1310
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: for goodness sake, nobody, I mean, people are going crazy

1311
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 3: over the Giants game, like like not the not the Vegas,

1312
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 3: the Washington, the Dolphins, game. But the Giants game and

1313
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers game, those games are kind of the way

1314
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: you want to win. Now, then when you get down

1315
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 3: and just keep doing that to the hick and choose

1316
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 3: how you're gonna No, no, I'm not just I'm not saying

1317
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: it because you don't pick and choose. I'm saying trying

1318
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 3: and win and you try and play well. But I'm

1319
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: saying this, by the time you get to the Dallas,

1320
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: there's a chance Dallas and Chargers somewhere in there before

1321
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 3: you go to New England and Miami. All of a sudden,

1322
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 3: you need to find it and you need to turn

1323
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: into that game. You need to turn into the team

1324
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: that beat the Raiders thirty eight ten, that beat the

1325
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 3: Commanders thirty seven to three, that beat the Dolphins forty

1326
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: eight to twenty. By the time you get down to

1327
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: New England Miami, you need to win enough of these

1328
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: games in between those to get into the playoff hunt

1329
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: and maybe get and give yourself a chance at the

1330
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 3: division title by beating the Jets, and then find it

1331
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden you turn into it.

1332
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 3: Because if you start playing great now in November, by

1333
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 3: the time you get to the bye week. You're hoping, man,

1334
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: I hope we can keep it going. That's what the

1335
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: Bengals are saying today. It's an eighteen week season and

1336
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: the only part of the season Bills fans care about,

1337
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: and I think the team cares about understanding where they're

1338
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 3: at is the play. That's when you got to hit it.

1339
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 3: Just get there. So I don't care if they win

1340
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 3: seventeen sixteen tonight against the Brown, because you do have

1341
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 3: to win, no question, and you got to do whatever

1342
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 3: it takes. But I don't want them to catch lightning

1343
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 3: in a bottle because it's hard to keep it in

1344
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: there for nine, ten more weeks. Just get there, basically win.

1345
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: Then then all of the roofs got to come off

1346
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: and they'll say, let's go.

1347
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, back to the phones into Mike and Buffalo. What

1348
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 5: do you got Mike?

1349
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Speaker 20: Hi, guys, I think for the Bill for you know,

1350
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 20: just keep it, keep it simple and go back to

1351
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 20: things that works. You guys kind of talked about this

1352
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 20: a few minutes ago. In the Sincy game, they threw

1353
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 20: that screen. The digs and even Collins were said Diggs

1354
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 20: had no business getting more than two yards. He breaks

1355
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 20: it out for fifty and when I'm watching that game,

1356
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 20: I was waiting for them to go back to that

1357
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 20: play because it worked so well, and they didn't. They

1358
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 20: did that with Cook in the New England game, Josh

1359
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 20: throws it out to him, he makes a couple of

1360
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 20: guys mess scores a touchdown, and I know they've tried

1361
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 20: to get back to him a few times, but I

1362
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 20: do think just go not being afraid to go back

1363
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 20: to things that have worked for you. Maybe Dorsey gets

1364
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 20: caught in those mind games like you talked about of well,

1365
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 20: I don't want to go back to that because I

1366
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 20: just did it, But I don't know what you guys

1367
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 20: think about that. And then I just want to bring

1368
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 20: up a quick funny point. I think it's funny how

1369
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 20: twenty four hours ago everyone said Lamar Jackson's the MVP,

1370
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 20: the Ravens are going to run away with it, and

1371
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 20: then this morning nobody on national television picked them to

1372
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,879
Speaker 20: win their division. Same with Burrow. He wasn't Joe cool yesterday,

1373
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 20: he was Joe miserable, and their whole fan base was

1374
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 20: picking them apart. So I think it's Bill's things. We

1375
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 20: just got to kind of stay in the middle and

1376
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 20: don't get too down on this team. They're capable of

1377
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 20: doing it, and I do think they can do it,

1378
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 20: So that's all.

1379
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, you're right.

1380
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 3: Well, thanks Mike, You're right. It's a week to week league, man.

1381
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 5: I mean, Steve was just watching Shannon Sharp talking today

1382
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 5: about how he can't trust Lamar Jackson.

1383
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: Is the Ravens loseing a one point kid, Right, That's

1384
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: the way it is. You get away with stuff and

1385
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: everybody forgets about it when you win, and nobody can

1386
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: let it go if you lose. It's just the way

1387
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 3: it is. Same thing we talk about with Josh Allen's turnovers.

1388
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: When they lose, he's the reason. He stinks. He can't

1389
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: make a decision. He's sugar high Josh. He's da YadA,

1390
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: YadA YadA. But then when they win and he throws

1391
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 3: two picks, he's got four touchdowns and a rushing touch

1392
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: four passing touchdowns, a rushing touchdown, he's got seventy five

1393
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: yards and three hundred plus in the air, and he's

1394
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 3: one of only and you read these stats, he's only

1395
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: quarterback in history with six of those games. Right, So

1396
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: that's kind of where you get and that's where we're at.

1397
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too about the offense repeating stuff

1398
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: that does well. And this I haven't thought about this

1399
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: for a long long time, but it was an old

1400
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know what you call an axiom

1401
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: or one of these little little wives tales about the

1402
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:57,440
Speaker 3: NFL and offensive coordinators compared to defensive coordinators. A defensive

1403
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 3: coordinator will run the same defense every single snap until

1404
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: you solve it. They will absolutely be like a dog

1405
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: with a bone. And if they if they put your

1406
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 3: quarterback out last play, they're running the same defense this time.

1407
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 3: They're gonna put the backup out, and then they're gonna

1408
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 3: put your and they're gonna put your emergency quarterback out,

1409
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: and then they're gonna put your head coach out, and

1410
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: then they're gonna you know, they don't ever let it go.

1411
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 3: If they get a defense that won't that will work,

1412
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: they'll never call anything else. Conversely, offensive coordinators will dial

1413
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 3: up a touchdown and you'll never see the play again

1414
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: because they're afraid the defense will recognize somebody make a

1415
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: play on them. That's just it's an axiom throughout that

1416
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: I remember being calling as a player. You never go

1417
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 3: back to it. Now there's now this it's an oversimplification obviously,

1418
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 3: because the teams I played on when we ran like

1419
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: nine plays, ten plays, But it was a real It

1420
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 3: was a real thing when you got to coordinators, because

1421
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 3: we'd be watching film and they go, see, look at it,

1422
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 3: like like we'd be watching the Dolphins defense and it's

1423
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: getting ready for him, and they're there, why didn't the

1424
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: Raiders run that more?

1425
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 5: You know?

1426
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,879
Speaker 3: Why didn't the Raiders keep doing this offensively against his team?

1427
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: You know? And there's no answer, Yeah, except the courterners, Like,

1428
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think they're gonna see it coming right.

1429
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 5: That's playing in a reactive way, is it not.

1430
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 3: I think it's plain scared.

1431
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta be more proactive.

1432
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 3: You gotta have ten plus and I think two when

1433
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 3: you get into those games, even if they do take

1434
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 3: away that first stop, you gotta have answers somewhere else

1435
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 3: so you can go back to it. But that's it's

1436
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: an old, you know, kind of wives tale, locker room myth.

1437
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 5: That's an NFL proverb.

1438
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go.

1439
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 5: We do have some NFL news to bring to you

1440
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 5: as well. We know the ship is sinking in New England.

1441
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 5: So before we go to break, just wanted to let

1442
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 5: you know. Mike Garifolo NFL Network is reporting that the

1443
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 5: Patriots are waving cornerback Jack Jones. This according to his agent,

1444
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty two draft Joys, who played ten snaps

1445
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 5: on Sunday, is gonna head elsewhere for the next portion

1446
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: of his NFL career. This is the guy that got

1447
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 5: brought up on gun charges in summertime, got in a

1448
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 5: fight with a teammate of training camp, then was on

1449
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 5: ir came back. So clearly not a character match for

1450
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 5: the Patriots, and they're just gonna toss him overboard at

1451
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 5: this point in time, you're two and eight, doesn't make

1452
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 5: a difference. So you're not going anywhere this season. And

1453
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 5: so Jack Jones, who I think was either a Day

1454
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 5: two or an early Day three pick, no longer on

1455
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,879
Speaker 5: the roster after just one and a half seasons. Wow,

1456
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 5: gotta take a break here, But Chuck and Hamburg or

1457
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 5: leave us lead us off, David and Toronto, Scott and Fredonia.

1458
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 5: We'll get around to you at some point in time.

1459
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 5: We've also got a lunch break coming up here on

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01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 5: One Bills Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1461
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 5: All right, it is a Buffalo Football Monday game day,

1462
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 5: as Monday Night football is ready to roll. What are

1463
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 5: we about? Five hours from kickoff? Steve, it'll be here

1464
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 5: before you know, Steve Haates waiting for night games.

1465
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: It's here's the thing, and we all know this. It's

1466
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: it's winter. We're in western New York and and you

1467
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 3: know daylight time it gets, it's gonna be dark five

1468
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 3: hours before this game takes off. It's gonna feel like

1469
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: the game kicks at midnight. It takes forever. It takes

1470
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 3: forever for this game.

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01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 5: We're a little under seven hours before kickoff. Right now,

1472
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna be okay.

1473
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 3: Can you joke? Seven hours Steve.

1474
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you what Steve is gonna do today.

1475
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 5: He is going after we're done with the show, he

1476
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: is gonna go find a quiet place and take a nap.

1477
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 5: I am not lying.

1478
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 3: I can't. I got all these guys in town. I

1479
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 3: got my two older brothers are in the listen. Okay,

1480
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 3: so here's my you know, I'm the youngest, so you

1481
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: know my the age group. My brothers are in. They're

1482
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 3: my brothers. I love them, but you know, back in

1483
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 3: the day when I was playing, they were coming up.

1484
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't keep up with them. I was just hoping

1485
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 3: they showed up because they were like out. I mean,

1486
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 3: they knew all the spot. Right now, they're napping on

1487
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 3: my couch right, and they're just they're hanging around the house,

1488
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 3: shuffling around in house shoes, and they're not like as

1489
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: soon as I'm out of the how they're like off,

1490
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 3: they're gone. They're going here, They're going there. Yeah, they're out.

1491
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: They come in at two am. That was back in

1492
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 3: the day. Now, my older brothers are gonna turn seventy soon.

1493
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 5: They're watching Prices right, yeah, and dozing during it showcase showdown.

1494
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 3: Yes, that was right. They're setting me alarm for the

1495
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 3: Showcase showdown. So so it's a little different animal. But

1496
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: they are coming in. We're gonna cu they're gonna comemit

1497
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 3: and see the studio here this after the show. But yeah,

1498
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I so I can't even I can't get.

1499
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 5: Oh, you can't get your nap can't get your naptick.

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01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: I can't get my nap in because I God, guess

1501
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 3: I got to be hospitable.

1502
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 5: Hit the extra CAFFEINEO. Uh, let's get back to the phones, though,

1503
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 5: where we are searching for your keys to a Bill's

1504
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 5: victory tonight at eight oh three oh five fifty into

1505
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 5: Chuck and Hamburg we go next. What do you got

1506
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 5: for us?

1507
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 3: Chuck?

1508
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 15: Thanks for taking my call, Chris Steve.

1509
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 10: Sure, if take your brothers out the East War sugar

1510
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 10: them up, they'll be all hype for the game.

1511
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 3: Man, dude, I don't know where you live.

1512
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 21: My three keys are.

1513
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 3: My brothers have been in. My brothers know their way

1514
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: around EA. They've been there, they've been coming in and

1515
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:33,879
Speaker 3: out of EA.

1516
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 5: For They'll be just fine. I'm not worried about them

1517
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 5: at all. What's your three keys, Chuck?

1518
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,440
Speaker 9: No turnovers?

1519
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, okay, win time of possession okay, every time you're

1520
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 15: inside the Bronco forty score points.

1521
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 4: Okay, and I'll hang up and listen.

1522
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah ickity akity oop, you win the game. Yeah. The

1523
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 5: easier said than done. Bronco's got five takeaways. Last week

1524
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 5: against the Chiefs, played a ball control game and what

1525
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 5: was the final that twenty four to nine. I think

1526
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 5: they will win over the Chiefs held the Chiefs to

1527
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 5: a season low nine points, so they're doing something right.

1528
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 3: Of late, wells help everybody? Well, yeah, how much they forced?

1529
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 3: The turnovers have something to do with it.

1530
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 5: I think about that, five takeaways and they still only

1531
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 5: score twenty four. You should score more than twenty four

1532
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 5: with five takeaways, right.

1533
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: If the Broncos can't run the ball consistently against the Bills,

1534
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a problem for the Broncos.

1535
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 5: You got to stop their run game tonight.

1536
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: You have to. Yeah, and for the for the Bills,

1537
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: if they don't turn it over, yeah, I don't think

1538
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: you beat them. I don't think very many teams beat

1539
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: this team if the Bills don't turn it over.

1540
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 5: Let's go to David in Toronto and X, what do

1541
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 5: you got first David.

1542
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 22: Doing?

1543
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 5: It's good.

1544
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 23: I'm just driving with my son his first Buffalo Bill's

1545
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 23: game from Toronto. He's very excited, awesome, eight years old

1546
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 23: going to the Bill game.

1547
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 20: So I didn't want to talk about the three keys.

1548
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 23: I just wanted to I heard last week that Murray

1549
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 23: had a player only meeting correct and Steve. I wanted

1550
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 23: to ask you, I'm sure you've had those two when

1551
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 23: you were playing. What if they accomplish or what happens

1552
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:23,480
Speaker 23: in those meetings.

1553
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 3: I think the best thing that happens from those meetings,

1554
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: and I know it always It sounds a little bit

1555
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 3: ominous because it sounds like there's some sort of turmoil

1556
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 3: or whatever. But I think it's a veteran player who

1557
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: notices something or has a message to give, and I

1558
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 3: think it's a message that he wants to make sure

1559
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 3: everybody hears. I think he'll think it's important, and I

1560
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: think other guys will chime in say yeah, he's right.

1561
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 3: And not every not every player has the voice where

1562
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 3: they can just say it in the locker room, have it,

1563
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to make sure, if you've

1564
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: got something to say to the team, you need them

1565
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 3: all to hear it, you call them together and do that.

1566
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily a sign of unhealth or huge problems,

1567
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 3: but it is a sign from a player who think

1568
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 3: he's got something important to say, no matter what it is.

1569
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: On both ends of the spectrum, it could be called

1570
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 3: a player's only meeting because he wanted to make sure

1571
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 3: everybody had an invitation to the Thanksgiving party. Right on

1572
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: the other end of it, he could say, Hey, I

1573
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: hate you and I want you to go away kind

1574
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 3: of thing. I hate you and I hope you choke

1575
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 3: and die. It could be an argument, a personal thing,

1576
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: It could be all the way from any either one

1577
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 3: of those. I think it's probably something like this, Guys.

1578
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 3: He can probably look around the locker room and see

1579
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 3: the talent and the wherewithal and what this team has

1580
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 3: on the field, and he's saying, guys, we're not playing

1581
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 3: up to that, let's go, and probably has some specific

1582
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 3: stuff to talk about in that. And I'm sure that

1583
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: whatever message it was, if it was something like that,

1584
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 3: other voices like Steph Diggs, Josh Allen, Mitch Morse, you know,

1585
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 3: Micah High, Jordan Poyer are all going, yeah, you know what,

1586
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: He's right, let's go that kind of thing.

1587
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 5: I will say this based on what we were able

1588
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 5: to get information wise from the player's only meeting. Latavius

1589
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 5: Murray was the one that requested it. He only did

1590
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 5: it with the offense, at least as far as I understand,

1591
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 5: because he asked Ken Dorsey for permission to do so.

1592
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 5: He granted it. And Murray's got some skins on the wall.

1593
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 5: Ten years in this league. He's a respected guy in

1594
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 5: that locker room. Even though he's a new arrival, and

1595
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 5: from what we understand, it was about player to player accountability.

1596
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 5: That was the nature of the meeting, and he felt

1597
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 5: it needed to be addressed. They addressed it, they move forward.

1598
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 5: So that was the crux of the nature of that

1599
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 5: player's only meeting, and by all accounts it was considered healthy.

1600
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 5: Is it going to make a difference in the game tonight,

1601
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 5: Who the heck knows. I mean, by this point it

1602
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 5: was five days ago already, so you know what I'm saying.

1603
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 5: But I think he felt the team needed to get

1604
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 5: checked on player to player accountability and not being afraid

1605
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 5: to call somebody on the carpet if it's warranted, to

1606
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 5: uphold the standard they believe they need to have on

1607
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball, because I think we

1608
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 5: all know this on the outside, so they must know

1609
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 5: it on the inside. With this defense, as injury riddled

1610
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 5: as they are, the offense is gonna have to pull

1611
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 5: on the rope a little bit harder here for the

1612
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 5: next several weeks if they want to stack wins and

1613
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 5: win football games. And so I wouldn't be surprised if

1614
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 5: that was part of what was discussed as well, because

1615
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 5: they're not holding up their end right now on a

1616
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 5: consistent basis anyway.

1617
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think in a healthy locker room, and

1618
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 3: I know people have heard, you know about some healthy

1619
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: teams that have been here and there in the past.

1620
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 3: It comes down to what the best players on the team,

1621
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 3: what their personality is, and what they do. And if

1622
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: the best player on your team, say it's Josh Allen

1623
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 3: or Steph Diggs or Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, who you

1624
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 3: pick your or you know Trey White when he's out there,

1625
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: healthy von Miller, When you've got guys like that and

1626
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 3: they are receptive to teammates coming up and saying, hey,

1627
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: you should I don't like that you did something wrong

1628
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 3: here you needed what about it? You know? And to

1629
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 3: have those guys be the players to say, you know what,

1630
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 3: you're right, I'm gonna fix it. Thanks. When the great

1631
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 3: players are willing to be held accountable by guys who

1632
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 3: are not at their level, it elevates the desire for

1633
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: everybody in the locker room to match that excellence. That's

1634
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 3: when a team's really healthy. When the best players know

1635
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: that they need to be held accountable or are willing

1636
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: to be held accountable by guys who fans might not

1637
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 3: even recognize on the street, but that the great like

1638
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: Josh Allen can't go anywhere. But if if somebody comes

1639
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 3: up to him, like you know, Deontae Hardy comes up

1640
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: to Josh, say Josh, don't do that, don't do that.

1641
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: That's because I felt like da data and Josh say,

1642
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 3: ya what. I didn't mean it that way, but you're right.

1643
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: I promise I won't do that anymore. That kind of

1644
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: atmosphere elevates guys when and everybody on the field says

1645
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 3: they got a voice, knows they have a voice and

1646
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 3: they can be heard. And that's what and that's a

1647
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 3: little bit of what those team meetings are about.

1648
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 5: Let's go to Scott Infredonia next.

1649
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 3: What do you have for a Scott going gentlemen?

1650
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 16: I love your show and I love the Bills.

1651
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 17: Let's go Buffalo.

1652
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 24: Tonight, Let's go. I'm not a not genius. I can

1653
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 24: tell you I don't know what I'm talking about when

1654
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 24: it comes to football, but I'd like to see him

1655
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 24: one of the keys to open it up the offense,

1656
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 24: like five wide, no huddle, just let Josh go, go go.

1657
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 24: And I really like when he plays that way and

1658
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 24: That's one key. Another one is on fourth down, especially

1659
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 24: around midfielder, even in Denver's territory, take a lot more chances.

1660
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 24: Let's fourth and two, fourth and three.

1661
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 15: Let's go for it.

1662
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 24: Let's let's be desperate, and when we get down to

1663
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 24: the one or two yard line, just use Josh, don't

1664
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 24: get fancy and be and And sometimes I see him

1665
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 24: like in Shotgun, I just don't understand that to get

1666
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 24: up underneath her and just push it in.

1667
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 17: And but I enjoy the show.

1668
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 24: I think Buffalo's gonna crush him tonight.

1669
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 5: All right, thanks for the call, Scott, appreciate it.

1670
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1671
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 5: I mean there's in a lot of clamoring for going fast,

1672
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 5: spreading it out, throwing caution to the wind, and just

1673
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 5: going up tempo and trying to score as many points

1674
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 5: as you can because doing it another way, whether they

1675
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 5: purposely did it to try to protect their defense from

1676
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 5: being on the field too long, knowing how injury riddled

1677
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 5: they are, or for whatever other reason, this point fans

1678
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 5: are like, forget it. Just be who you are, go

1679
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 5: fast if that's the best way to score points, and

1680
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 5: the defense will figure out the rest, because if you're

1681
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 5: scoring points, their margin forever is greater.

1682
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I know five wide go go go,

1683
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: I get it midfield chances. I'll say this from everything

1684
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,839
Speaker 3: we've heard or research and everybody, all the analytics sites

1685
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,480
Speaker 3: and all the things that people talk about with McDermott

1686
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 3: and his percentage, and Brownie said this Arder in the show,

1687
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 3: the analytic stuff about when to go for it when

1688
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 3: not to go for it. McDermott is.

1689
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 5: Right where he should be, on the cutting edge.

1690
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 3: He goes for it when he's supposed to go for it.

1691
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: Now and I'll say this, You're right about one thing,

1692
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 3: Scott from Fredonia, Josh Allen in gold to go situations,

1693
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: he is the best short yardage running back in the

1694
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: National Football League bar none. He's the best guy. But

1695
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 3: it comes at a cost. So you got to weigh

1696
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 3: that cost and say, listen, if you want to go

1697
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 3: student body right, have Josh swing out to the right side,

1698
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: tuck the ball under his arm, and let's all just

1699
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 3: pile into the end zone together. You can do that

1700
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 3: until you can't because Josh is standing on the sidelines

1701
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 3: with you know, with crutches. So you can try all

1702
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 3: that stuff, but sooner or later. Over eighteen weeks of

1703
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 3: the season. I know over the next eight weeks of

1704
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 3: the season. You never run that risk when you don't

1705
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 3: do that, So you got to weigh it. But you're right.

1706
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent. Josh Allen is

1707
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 3: a short yardist quarterback is unbeatable. But it's a roll

1708
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 3: of the dice.

1709
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 5: Got another thing coming up that's gonna be unbeatable. A

1710
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 5: lunch break presented by Snapdragon and our good friends at

1711
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 5: Snapdragon apples straight from the menu and kitchen of Bill's

1712
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 5: long snapper, Reed Ferguson. You're gonna want to stay tuned

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Speaker 5: for this. I got a sneak peek at it. It's beautiful,

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Speaker 5: So stay with us. We'll be back with our lunch

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Speaker 5: break presented by Snapdragon. Next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 5: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 5: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 5: with you here on a Buffalo game day Monday, and

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01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 5: happy to let you know that we are taking a

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01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 5: lunch break here courtesy of Snapdragon.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 5: We've got a recipe here straight straight from the kitchen

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Speaker 5: of One Bill's long snapper, Red Ferguson, presented by snap Dragon,

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01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 5: of course, the official apple of the Buffalo Bills. It

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Speaker 5: is a cinnamon strusel baked apple Steve, which includes of

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01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 5: course Snapdragon apples, brought to you from the kitchen of

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Speaker 5: Reed Ferguson. Now this is Reed's own recipe that he's

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01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 5: got here and you can visit Snapdragon Apple on Instagram

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01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 5: or on Twitter x whatever you like to call it,

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 5: or visit reads social channels for instructions on how to

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01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 5: make them hold on a second. I want them to

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01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 5: get a shot of this fantastic display. Then you can

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01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 5: grab an apple and eat it. So Reid made this

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Speaker 5: in his kitchen last.

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Speaker 3: Weekio off and come back from me.

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01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 5: As we know, Snapdragon apples have an epic sweet, snappy flavor,

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01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 5: monster crunch, and incredible juiciness. A tasty fall dessert that

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01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 5: everyone will love, full of naturally energizing sugars to feel

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01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 5: any adventure. Snapdragon apples are being picked now across New

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01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 5: York State and are available at your low. We visit

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01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 5: snapdragonapple dot com to find where Snapdragon apples are available

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01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 5: in your area. Steve is pulling this off the slate

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01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 5: as we speak, but look at this you make this recipe, Steve,

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01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 5: isn't that a great centerpiece for like your Thanksgiving table? Yeah?

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01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 5: It looks like you know, and and I know our

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01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 5: pretty as a picture. I know our MSG viewers are

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01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 5: looking at this, our radio listeners. I'm just gonna tell

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01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 5: you none of you can smell, can smell how aromatic

1749
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,879
Speaker 5: this is. I mean, this is like an air freshener

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01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 5: in your house, right, it's.

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01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 3: Great cinnamon apple, Oh my gosh.

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01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna tell you that basically, the topping

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01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 5: on the baked apple looks an awful lot like what

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01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 5: you would see on the top of an apple crumble pie,

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01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 5: which is one of my favorite pies of all. Dig

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01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 5: into that while I'm yapping here, so I don't want

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01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,919
Speaker 5: to go. But yeah, for our radio listeners, they've garnished

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01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 5: the slate with cinnamon sticks, and there's like cinnamon powder

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01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 5: drizzled over the top of some what looks like whip topping.

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01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 5: And I know that you can usually our good friend

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01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 5: Mackenzie upstairs actually put this together. What's the verdict, Steve?

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01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 5: He's chewing it's as good as it looks, But now

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01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 5: you make me want to eat it. But Yeah, these

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01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 5: just look fantastic. I'm just picking it up with my hands.

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01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go root, I'm gonna so what's coming through there?

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01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 3: They don't the apple comes through big because they don't

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01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 3: bake the apple until it's all soft. It's still crunchy

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01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 3: apple in the middle, or for really in the middle.

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01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 3: It's got that you know, classic crunchy with a little

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01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 3: whipped cream doll up on the top and cinnamons. It's awesome,

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01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 3: so good, it's so good.

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01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 5: It's like apple pie without the crust.

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01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 3: That's right, that is That's exactly what it's like.

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01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 5: That is dynamite and apple pie is my favorite.

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Speaker 3: Good Thanks to snap Dragon apple for that.

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Speaker 5: I will tell you. I was I was telling my

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01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 5: wife about this because we're not hosting for Thanksgiving, so

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01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 5: we're know you always bring bring in something and my

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01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 5: daughter is a huge apple pie fan. I am as well,

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01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 5: so we're in charge of making apple pie. So for

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Speaker 5: the first time, we're gonna use snap dragon apples in

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01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 5: our apple pie recipe.

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01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 3: But there you go.

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Speaker 5: Now that I know you have this, I'm kind of

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01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 5: tempted to almost turn it from a dessert to it Well,

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01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 5: this could be a dessert very easily.

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01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 3: Well, that's what it is.

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01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 5: It could also be an ord dirve. I mean, as

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01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 5: my wife always says, dessert first. So this is almost

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01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 5: like you could serve this as a as a dessert,

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01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 5: you could serve it as an appetizer.

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01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It's really good, really good, and you

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01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 3: can imagine too. I'm coming out of the oven hot

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01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 3: and having it like, yeah.

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01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 5: Now where I don't have it listed in front of me?

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01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 5: Can Jay? Can you tell me in my ear where

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01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 5: people can find this recipe? Is it right at the

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Speaker 5: snap dragon site? Oh okay, read Ferguson's Instagram or Snapdragon Apple.

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Speaker 3: Snapdrag yeah, Snapdragon Apple dot com. It may be a

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01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 3: Snapdragon Apple on all the platforms of the bills to

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01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 3: all the platforms. So and we'll sweet.

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01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 5: Out some pictures on our Twitter handle one Bills Live

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01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 5: for those of you that can't look at this, I'm

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01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 5: telling you it is a sight and.

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Speaker 3: It's really good. And yeah, hey, Read made it. How

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01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 3: tough can it be?

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01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 5: You said that not right to.

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01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 3: Complicated.

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Speaker 5: Read is a big time he's a big time griller,

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01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 5: big time griller. I mean, he's got a bunch of

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01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 5: stuff on his on his Instagram page all the time.

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01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 5: Usually it's meat oriented, but this is dessert oriented with

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01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 5: snap dragon apples, and it's really really good. So I

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01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 5: gotta give it up to you for that fantastic stuff.

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01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 5: That might be the winner so far this year on

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01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 5: lunch breaks because it's.

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01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 3: Had some good stuff though, but this is yeah, this

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01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 3: is right on. This is right on.

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01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 5: Po is like dessert for.

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01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 3: Lunch more dessert.

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01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 5: So thanks to our friends, it's snapdragon apples. Great job

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Speaker 5: by them. We have to take a break here though,

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01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 5: because when we come back, we've got Eric Wood joining

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01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 5: us color analyst on the Bills Radio Network. He's here

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01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 5: every Monday. This time he's previewing a game instead of

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01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 5: reviewing a game. Since the Bills are playing tonight against

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01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 5: the Broncos on Monday Night Football. Eric Wood joins us

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01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 5: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Collide of Health.

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01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 5: It's Buffalo Bills.

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01:33:18,040 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: Radio the One Bill's Live presented by called lighta Health.

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01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 5: All right, here we are our number three on a

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01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 5: Buffalo game day, Monday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, we do

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01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 5: getting you ready for Bill's Broncos tonight kickoff around eight

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01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 5: fifteen ish it's never right at eight fifteen. It seems

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01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 5: they listed as an eight to fifteen kickoff time and

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01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 5: pushes it back of hair. Here there get one of those.

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01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 3: It's not like an eight o'clock shark's like eighth seven kick,

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01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 3: something like eight twenty two kick, just so that they

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01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 3: don't have to start it right on time. Now, And

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01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 3: you know what TV people.

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01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 5: Do here to join us to talk about it? Is

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01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 5: a radio person, not a TV person. It's one, well,

1845
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 5: he does do TV here and there it's yeah, it's

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01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 5: Eric what joining us on the show here my radio

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01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 5: broadcast partner. And uh, Eric, let's let's begin with because

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01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,839
Speaker 5: some fans have called to ask about and I'm assuming

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01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 5: you've been in these situations as a player before, Latavius

1850
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 5: Murray asks offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey if he can have

1851
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 5: a player's only meeting. Ken Dorsey obliges, the offense gets together,

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01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 5: and from all indications, Latavius Murray addressed player to player

1853
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 5: accountability in that meeting going forward. What do you feel

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01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 5: usually is the byproduct that comes out of meetings like

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01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 5: that going forward? With teams?

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01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 6: That's a great question, and each and everyone's different. This

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01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 6: one seems to be simply execution related. It's the performance

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01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 6: on the field. There's times where there's players only meetings

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01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 6: and there's more drama than that. By all indications, this

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01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 6: was simply and Latavius Murray set it himself this week.

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01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 6: It was, Hey, we know what we're capable as an offense.

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01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,879
Speaker 6: We know what we have talent wise as an offense.

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01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 6: There's probably talk there as well saying, look, we're the

1864
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 6: side of the football that hasn't been decimated by injuries.

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01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 6: We have got this step up and do better. And

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01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 6: you have a guy like Latavius Murray who's thirty three

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01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 6: years old. He's been around the NFL for a long

1868
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 6: enough time that he's seen so much throughout his time

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01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 6: that he probably looks around this locker room, especially on

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01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 6: the offense side of the football, and says, man, we

1871
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 6: are just capable of so much more. And so what

1872
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 6: exactly comes out of it, you know, that's that's to

1873
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 6: be determined, and tonight will be a good indication of that.

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01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 6: Maybe this week at practice was a good indication. I

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01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 6: had read a few reports that it just seemed like

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01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 6: they were a little bit more business like at practice,

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01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 6: which the season's long, even if you're coming off of

1878
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 6: a loss, you hit that twenty four hour rule. You know,

1879
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 6: you want to make practice fun at times, but there's

1880
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 6: times to truly lock it in. It seems like that

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01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 6: was the case this week in practice, especially coming out

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01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 6: of that player's only meeting.

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01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 3: One of the things that's been going on is that,

1884
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 3: you know, you see teams like that are getting hot

1885
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 3: and then cooling off, like the Cincinnati Bengals cooling off

1886
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: yesterday in the face of the Houston Texans. You saw

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01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers come out hot and they were

1888
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 3: everybody's super Bowl team. Then they drop three straight. I've

1889
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 3: been saying this for today, this whole show, that I'm

1890
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 3: okay with the ugly wins, not so much with the

1891
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 3: win loss win loss, but if you just win them somehow,

1892
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 3: some way, then when you get to midway, you get

1893
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 3: those last two games, when you get the Patriots at

1894
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 3: home and you get the Dolphins down there in Week eighteen,

1895
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 3: that's when you want to all of a sudden, like, okay,

1896
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 3: we're in the playoffs, let's shift gears, and that's when

1897
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 3: you want to kind of play your best. You want

1898
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: to catch lightning in a bottle then, because it's hard

1899
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 3: to keep the lid on the bottle from now. You know,

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01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 3: if you have a Miami game like you score seventy points,

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01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 3: that it's hard to look at Miami. I mean the

1902
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 3: same thing. So my thing is just win enough and

1903
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 3: bas me, don't worry about what they look like. But

1904
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 3: at the end of the season, when it's all right,

1905
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 3: now we're in the tournament, that's really when you want

1906
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: to say, Okay, now here's where we're going to take

1907
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 3: the lid off kind of thing, right.

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01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you've been through that seat, and so you

1909
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 6: saw that throughout your career in Buffalo and the runs

1910
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl, and you know that. You know

1911
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 6: it's off in the team that ends the season the hottest.

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01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 6: But you got to get there. You got to put

1913
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 6: yourself to a chance to get to the super Bowl

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01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 6: by making the playoffs and winning enough games along the way.

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01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 6: When you were talking right there, Steve, I was thinking

1916
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 6: back to when me, you and Chris were talking on

1917
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 6: Monday after Week four, saying, how do the Bills possibly

1918
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 6: keep this going because right now they look like an

1919
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 6: absolute juggernaut. Well, it was going to be really hard

1920
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 6: to keep going, but we didn't foresee all the injuries

1921
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 6: hitting the defensive side of the football the way that

1922
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 6: they did, and so you know, yes, it's about winning ugly.

1923
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 6: And when you look back at some of the losses

1924
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 6: as of late, especially the losses in the AFC, you

1925
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 6: hate to lose the week one tight one of the Jets,

1926
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 6: and you know, you lose that one to the Patriots

1927
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 6: at home. You lose another one score game last week

1928
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 6: that probably wasn't as close as the score indicated at

1929
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 6: the end of the game. But dropping up of those

1930
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 6: AFC games that tonight essentially becomes a must win. And

1931
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 6: when you're potentially down six defensive starters, you know, winning

1932
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 6: ugly is okay, but it's all about getting the win right.

1933
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 5: And so with that in mind, we look at a

1934
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 5: Broncos offense that has moved to the ball control side

1935
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 5: of the ledger in terms of how they choose plays.

1936
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 5: Never thought I'd see the day where Sean Payton is

1937
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 5: going fifty five percent run, forty five percent pass. But

1938
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 5: that's the percentages over the last three games and he's

1939
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 5: gotten two victories out of it, including one over the Chiefs,

1940
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 5: even though five takeaways certainly helped in that game. For

1941
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 5: Denver as well, but stopping the run would seem to

1942
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 5: be priority won for the Bills tonight on defense. Can

1943
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 5: they get that done? Their front is healthy, but everything

1944
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 5: else behind them is not.

1945
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're gonna need a big game tonight from the

1946
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 6: defensive line.

1947
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 4: And we talked about that going.

1948
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 6: Into the Cincinnati game, Chris, that both sides a lot

1949
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. We're gonna need to win that battle, and

1950
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 6: they didn't do it consistently enough last week. They don't

1951
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 6: get you know, Joe Burrow ends twenty eight for thirty

1952
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 6: two in they gave, and a lot of the reason

1953
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 6: because of that is just not enough consistent pressure on him.

1954
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 6: We've seen Sean McDermott since all these injuries happen, ten

1955
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 6: more blitzes to try and apply more pressure. Some of

1956
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 6: those are run blitzes, and so at times they may

1957
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 6: need to do that. Javonte Williams is a load of

1958
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 6: a back and then McLaughlin coming off the bench. He's

1959
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 6: averaged seven yards of care right now, So I believe

1960
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 6: number one becomes stop the run at this point. You

1961
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 6: mentioned it right there. Russell Wilson has become more of

1962
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 6: a game manager. He's got the highest snap to throw

1963
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 6: in the NFL by a wide margin. He holds on

1964
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 6: the ball for almost three and a half seconds, and

1965
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 6: so because that he's not taking a whole lot of risk.

1966
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 6: Because I think they're going into the game saying, our

1967
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 6: run games all right, our defense is playing better football,

1968
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 6: and especially when we start forcing turnovers, we don't have

1969
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 6: to try and do too much. But if you can

1970
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:54,600
Speaker 6: make this Broncos team one dimensional, forced Russell Wilson to

1971
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 6: put the game on his shoulders. He's really struggled against

1972
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 6: the blitz this year, and Sean mcdermot's been up more

1973
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 6: and more blitzes each week and he's just hold on

1974
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 6: to the football. So where the Bills are still top

1975
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 6: five in the league with twenty nine sacks, I think

1976
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 6: you could see maybe not takeaways tonight because Russell's playing

1977
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 6: pretty conservative football throwing the ball. But I think if

1978
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 6: you can stop the run, you can really start getting

1979
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 6: those sack numbers up. And maybe it's von Miller getting

1980
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 6: to his versus of this twenty twenty three season against

1981
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 6: his former team.

1982
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's kind of the weird spot we're in

1983
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 3: with this Broncos team. You got a player with Russell

1984
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 3: Wilson's caliber and some caliber some people are like, you know,

1985
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 3: when it's all said and done, Russ got a chance

1986
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 3: of the Hall of Fame. I mean, he's put together

1987
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 3: an outstanding career and you're telling it. The kind of

1988
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 3: the thought is, and I'm kind of with you. Put

1989
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands, right. You got to take

1990
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 3: them out of their run game. You got to ask

1991
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 3: them to throw the football one sudden and Judy are good,

1992
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 3: but they're not Steph Diggs, Dalton Kincaid good. And their

1993
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 3: offensive line is not good at past protecting. So really

1994
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 3: you want to you want to bottle everybody up in

1995
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 3: the run game and then just force the Broncos to

1996
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 3: do what every other team in the league does all

1997
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 3: the time, and that's to throw it. Yeah.

1998
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 6: I mean, if you're the Bills right now, that the

1999
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 6: goal of this getting a dime defense as soon as

2000
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 6: you possibly can, because you've been pretty creative and pretty

2001
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 6: productive out of that personnel grouping, and that would be

2002
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 6: an indication that you're forcing him into second and Long's

2003
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 6: third and lungs, forcing Russell Wilson to try and beat

2004
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 6: you with his arm. Probably the most impressive guy for

2005
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 6: me in that receiving core lately has been Mims, who's

2006
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 6: played well for them out on the edge. He's got

2007
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,799
Speaker 6: some speed, you know, the way the Bills have struggled

2008
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 6: against you know, jet sweeps and screens, it wouldn't surprise

2009
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 6: me to see Sean Payton test the Bills early on

2010
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 6: in the game. Maybe try and use some of his

2011
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 6: speed side to side.

2012
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 5: Eric, what do we make you touched on it? The

2013
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 5: secondary and the dime package, which they've used kind of

2014
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 5: as a band aid in the absence of man Milano's

2015
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 5: coverage of Bill knowing he's lost for the season, and

2016
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 5: Jordan Poyer's done an admirable job kind of doubling almost

2017
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 5: as Matt Milano in that dime package. But now you

2018
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 5: don't have Micah Hyde tonight. Who do you expect to

2019
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 5: be that third safety? You think it's gonna be cam

2020
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 5: Lewis or do you think it's gonna be demor Hamlin.

2021
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 6: I would assume it's cam Lewis because we saw him,

2022
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 6: and now I understand that Tomorrow was inactive for the

2023
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 6: Cincinnati game, but cam Lewis filled in, and even when

2024
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 6: Bernard went down, then you had Dotson staying on the field.

2025
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 6: So it seems like, even though that's a newer unveilment

2026
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 6: for us to see the don defense in the last

2027
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 6: few weeks, they've cross trained enough guys at certain positions

2028
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 6: where they can still get to that package despite the

2029
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 6: injuries at corner and safety hand linebacker here.

2030
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and how do you I mean, it's hard

2031
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 3: to poke holes on what Sean McDermott has done. What

2032
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 3: do you anticipate the next the next level of adjustment

2033
01:43:58,120 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to make.

2034
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's a little bit more creativity defensively with

2035
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 6: the blitz schemes and maybe in the run on rundowns especially,

2036
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 6: And then I believe as this d line gets healthier

2037
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,600
Speaker 6: and really von Miller when he becomes a force, it

2038
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 6: seems like, you know, we know Leonard Floyd was dealing

2039
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 6: with a foot or an ankle, and you know, you

2040
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,799
Speaker 6: get it to the point where you have Ed Oliver

2041
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 6: and Rousseau and a healthy Von Miller and healthy Leonard

2042
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 6: Floyd up there, then on third and mall you don't

2043
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 6: have to bring as many guys you can help out

2044
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 6: that secondary without bringing pressure on such a consistent basis.

2045
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 6: I was surprised that how often they blitched Joe Burrow

2046
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 6: last week. But if I'm Sean McDermott and I watch

2047
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 6: how the first part of that game unfolded, I'm thinking, well,

2048
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 6: I'm not just gonna sit back and let this happen

2049
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 6: over and over. And they got more aggressive and Joe

2050
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 6: was extremely efficient throwing the football, but they were able

2051
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 6: to slow that offense down, you know, especially after those

2052
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 6: first couple drives. So I think you'll continue to see

2053
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 6: creativity in the blitz schemes and h Sean McDermott works

2054
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 6: as hard as anybody, and I would imagine he spent

2055
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 6: a lot of time in the facility on this eight

2056
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 6: day break between this game trying to think of, Okay,

2057
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 6: how do I put my guys in the best position.

2058
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 6: Because Sean is the last one that's going to sit

2059
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 6: there and make excuses about the injuries. He's just going

2060
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 6: to look for solutions. That's how he's wired. And so

2061
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 6: I would assume there's some creativity as well, and some

2062
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 6: of it will be blitz packages. So might be you know,

2063
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 6: you might have to help out certain corners at times,

2064
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 6: or you don't want to put Taylor Rap in a

2065
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 6: certain position that's not going to leave him successful in

2066
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 6: replacement of mikeah Haid.

2067
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 5: Eric, you touched on Marvin Mims and how they're trying

2068
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 5: to work him in on offense. He's been pretty electric

2069
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 5: on special teams. I mean, he's the main reason why

2070
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 5: they lead the league in kick return average and punt

2071
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 5: return average. I mean it's a gaudy punt return average,

2072
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 5: like over twenty yards. Right, he's dangerous. We know special

2073
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 5: teams has had a couple of shaky performances. They played

2074
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 5: well in the Bucks game, but a little shaky in

2075
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 5: the the other two games wrapped around that. Is this

2076
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 5: a night where you just say, we're not even putting

2077
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:06,719
Speaker 5: it in his hands.

2078
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially early in the game when it's supposed to

2079
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 6: be super windy. I would assume that Tyler Bass is

2080
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 6: kicking that ball out of the back of the end zone,

2081
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 6: and then you know, punt wise, you know, if you

2082
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 6: can get it out the back of the end zone,

2083
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 6: then do that you made direction upon them, and then

2084
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 6: you know, if if it's a shorter field punt, then

2085
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 6: you're not as worried because you know your coverage union

2086
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 6: can get down there. But you know, part of the

2087
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 6: reason you know this we're talking about how this Bill's

2088
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 6: offense isn't producing and making as many plays. And one

2089
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 6: of my keys for the game tonight is the Bill's

2090
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 6: got to stop losing the field position battle as much

2091
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 6: as they are. And you know, they're just giving their

2092
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 6: offense these long drives over and over. And yes, the

2093
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 6: Bills have not been getting a ton of chunk plays

2094
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 6: in football game to put up a bunch of points

2095
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 6: and really flip that field. But man, defensively and on

2096
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,719
Speaker 6: special teams, they've just cost themselves so many hidden yards.

2097
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 6: And it just finally seems like the Bills are gonna

2098
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,799
Speaker 6: get some decent field position. They might get a penalty

2099
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 6: on special teams that then backs them up inside the twenty.

2100
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 6: And I know people are here second of You're and

2101
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 6: them talk about it, but he's talking about it consistently

2102
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 6: because it's true. The Bills are not playing complimentary football.

2103
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 6: And we can give this offense as much grief as

2104
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 6: we want right now, and figures are getting pointed all

2105
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,520
Speaker 6: over the place. But if they start getting some turnovers,

2106
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 6: some three and outs defensively, and if the special teams

2107
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 6: can play up to the standard that we've seen them

2108
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 6: play to over the years, then I believe that this

2109
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 6: offense will come alive as well.

2110
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 3: Right. One of the things about it as well, that

2111
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 3: when you look at Denver's punt returns Mims has got.

2112
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 3: He's only returned seven punts and six kickoffs. The Broncos

2113
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 3: have not been forcing too many teams to punt on them.

2114
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 3: He's only got five fair catches. So it's it's not

2115
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 3: like they're getting a lot of success in their special

2116
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 3: They are getting some success in their special teams, but

2117
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,759
Speaker 3: they're not often. They're not often, which is a plus,

2118
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 3: and and it it speaks well, I think one of

2119
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 3: the things that's important about this game, and I want

2120
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 3: to see get your take on this, You're right. I mean,

2121
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 3: I'd love to see him do the big play and

2122
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 3: get some chunk plays for the Bills offense and and

2123
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 3: have the and have the defense and the special teams

2124
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 3: set them up with some short fields. But I'd also

2125
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 3: like to see this team not face too many third downs,

2126
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, they have not been stay on

2127
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 3: the field, yeah and all that, but man oh man,

2128
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 3: let's you know, let's not get to third and four

2129
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,719
Speaker 3: again on for three consecutive down. You know, chain moves

2130
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 3: you know. So it's one of the things is they've

2131
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 3: it just seems like a really a real struggle to

2132
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 3: be really successful on first down and you know, then

2133
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 3: force a third down where they've got to show they're

2134
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 3: the best team in the NFL at converting that third down.

2135
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a that's a real anxiety boost for

2136
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 3: most Bills fans, right.

2137
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Speaker 6: You know, the Bills sit todd for first in the

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01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 6: NFL and third down conversions, but that hasn't translated, especially recently,

2139
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 6: to a ton of point. It's because of the long

2140
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 6: fields and the chunk plays not there. And you know,

2141
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 6: when I'm saying the Bills need to get some chunk plays,

2142
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 6: that doesn't always mean hey we're going to take a

2143
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 6: deep shot down the field to Diggs or Davis or

2144
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 6: Hardy or whoever. It's that play action on the crossing routes. Well,

2145
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 6: those are set up by being able to run the football.

2146
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 6: James Cook rushes six times for twenty yards in the

2147
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 6: last game. Well, no wonder the chunk plays aren't coming

2148
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 6: off the off the play action in that game because

2149
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 6: they're not as worried about the run. So it all

2150
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 6: works hand in hand. But I'm with you, and I'm

2151
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 6: with you, Steve, where it just feels like, even when

2152
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 6: the Bills are driving down the field for points, it's

2153
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 6: taking a lot of effort to do it. And it

2154
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 6: wouldn't surprise me to see similar to the Buccaneers game

2155
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 6: where early on you see a design Josh Allen run.

2156
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 6: So now you're sitting there as vance Joseph the defensive

2157
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 6: coordinator for the Broncos, You're sitting there thinking, okay, this

2158
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 6: is in the repertoire early. It's not just when it

2159
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 6: becomes desperation mode in the second half where Josh is

2160
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 6: going to run the football. Now we got to count

2161
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 6: for hit him and and then that can lead to

2162
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 6: a whole slew of things that opened up when you're

2163
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 6: worried about the quarterback running. You're worried a little bit

2164
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 6: about James Cook running the football and picking up some chunks,

2165
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 6: and then that can really open it up. In the

2166
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 6: RBO game, the play action game, where it's kind of

2167
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 6: that second level of the defense where you're hitting twenty

2168
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 6: twenty five yard chunk plays, but it's simply because you're

2169
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 6: manipulating those linebackers.

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Speaker 5: Last one I've got for you, Eric, You know we

2171
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 5: mentioned how field position battle has not been consistently won

2172
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 5: by special teams and how that's impacted the offense. We're

2173
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 5: not trying to be apologists for the offense here, but

2174
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 5: the defense also has not gotten takeaways. They've got no

2175
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 5: interceptions in their last five games. It's tied for the

2176
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 5: second longest streak without a pick in team history. So

2177
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 5: they're not even getting extra opportunities with the football of late.

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01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 6: Right, and they're allowing a lot of long drives, which

2179
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 6: is shortened the games. I mean, we've talked about on

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01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 6: the broadcast each week, Chris, it's and I even said

2181
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 6: it in Cincinnati last week. I said, well, the Bills

2182
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 6: are going to have to shots at trying to score touchdowns.

2183
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 6: I only got one, Yeah, I mean it was the

2184
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,799
Speaker 6: entire fourth quarter was a Bill's drive at a Bengals

2185
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 6: drive essentially. And so it's the Bills defense is allowing

2186
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 6: some longer drives, which is shortening the game as well.

2187
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 6: Josh is you know, kind of playing with that balance

2188
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 6: of seventy percent completion second in the league, but also

2189
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 6: where am I going to take my chances? And so

2190
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 6: because of all that, it's just been long drives less

2191
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 6: drives in the game overall, and we've seen less scoring

2192
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 6: because of it.

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Speaker 3: Last one for me and I guess we talk about

2194
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 3: it all the time. And you know, Josh is in

2195
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 3: the MVP conversation when he's playing well, he's leading the

2196
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 3: league and touch all this stuff. But I keep going

2197
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 3: back to how much for granted, we take Stefan Diggs.

2198
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 3: He's got seventy catches on the season, He's on pace

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Speaker 3: for one hundred and thirty two catches again this year,

2200
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 3: a year after year, and it's week after week two

2201
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 3: in an offense that we're we're all like, we're like

2202
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 3: pulling our hair out, wish and it was gonna be easier.

2203
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 3: And their only guy you really can count on is

2204
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs, and these defenses knowing it, they can't take

2205
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 3: him away. I really gotta I gotta tip my hacks.

2206
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 3: I've We've seen a ton of guys in the league

2207
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 3: year after year. He is unbelievable. And he's not just

2208
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 3: he's a great player, yes, but consistently when teams know

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Speaker 3: he is their guy, Diggs has yet to be really

2210
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 3: just taken off the map by anybody.

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01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's truly a total package, and to your point, Steep.

2212
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 6: I love the mentality shows up each week. Like there's

2213
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 6: never been a game where I didn't feel like, you know,

2214
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 6: he gets that first catch of the game and he's

2215
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 6: running angry at the corner back in front of him.

2216
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 6: He just he shows up each and every week, produces

2217
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 6: on such a high level. And if they can get

2218
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 6: some consistency that if it remains with Kincaid and he

2219
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:54,520
Speaker 6: becomes your number two target, or if tonight, if Sirt's

2220
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 6: chasing around the field and they say, hey, we're gonna

2221
01:52:56,479 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 6: take away Diggs, then is it Davis that steps up night?

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01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 6: Shakir Kakaid is a cookout of the backfield some regardless,

2223
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 6: you have ultimate production right now from your number one receiver.

2224
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:09,600
Speaker 6: And yeah, we could take a lot of shots on

2225
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 6: the offense, you know, throughout the season for you know,

2226
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 6: warts at different times. But Stefan Diggs each and every

2227
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 6: week has shown up and it's been it's been fun

2228
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 6: to watch, I mean, and he's done it in so

2229
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 6: many different ways. You know, it's not just taking the

2230
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 6: top off the defense. It's not just you know, option

2231
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 6: routes from the slaughter RPO game. Last week, it was

2232
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 6: a screen that he takes for over thirty yards and

2233
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 6: breaks tackles and gosh, I mean him getting up off

2234
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 6: the ground in the Patriots game and getting up into

2235
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 6: the end zone like that's a competitor. He gets up

2236
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 6: before they can eat, like that wasn't a Hey, this

2237
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,600
Speaker 6: is a first year corner back out of college. He

2238
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 6: doesn't realize he's got to touch the receiver down. He

2239
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 6: just got up in time. And so yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I can't say enough good things about what Stefan digs dougs.

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01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 6: And you know, you could talk about him slamming a

2242
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 6: tablet on the sideline or if he said last week

2243
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 6: at halftime he's barely sweating. You know what, I'll take

2244
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 6: everything that comes with Stefon Diggs because none of that

2245
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 6: is directed necessarily at teammates or coaches. And you know

2246
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 6: the way everyone even talks about what. I've never been

2247
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 6: in a locker room with Stefon Diggs, but I feel

2248
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 6: like I get along with him pretty well.

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01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why everybody was freaking out late late

2250
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 5: last week when he popped up on the injury report

2251
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 5: with a back issue. But fortunately that cleared itself up

2252
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 5: and he has no designation on the injury report for

2253
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,839
Speaker 5: the game, so he is good to go for tonight.

2254
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 5: Eric will catch up with you in the booth a

2255
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 5: little bit later. Thanks for joining us this afternoon.

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01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 6: Yep, sounds good, Chris. Make sure you take a little

2257
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 6: tom off before we get roll, player. This is a

2258
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 6: long day for you taking that.

2259
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll be all right, Steve. Steve's looking for a

2260
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 5: place to that, but I'll be all right. I just

2261
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 5: hit hit some coffee and be ready to roll.

2262
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 3: All right. He good stuff, man. Thanks, there you go.

2263
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 5: All right. That's Eric joining us my broadcast partner on

2264
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 5: the Bills Radio Network. So we'll be calling the game

2265
01:54:56,160 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 5: for you tonight eight fifteen ish kickoff, and we'll take

2266
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 5: you all the way through, including the pregame. We got

2267
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 5: the roundtable from six to seven with Shoping the Bulldog

2268
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 5: on the Bill's flagship station WGR here in Buffalo on

2269
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 5: the Bills Radio Network, So be sure to check it out.

2270
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 5: If you're chilling out in the parking lots doing your

2271
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 5: tailgating thing, we're there for you. Uh yeah, you're right,

2272
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 5: you're right about dicks. People just kind of accept it. Yeah,

2273
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 5: you take it for granted. I was just looking at

2274
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 5: and you know, and you really shouldn't.

2275
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Speaker 3: And all the stuff he does, everything he's done, all

2276
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 3: this stuff, the off the field stuff, the you know,

2277
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 3: the whatever you want to call it, it all comes

2278
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 3: from the exact right.

2279
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 5: Spot, the passion to win.

2280
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think his teammates love him for that.

2281
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 3: And there has never been any real friction between anybody

2282
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 3: on the side. He's over there yelling on the sidelines,

2283
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 3: and and he's yelling at Josh like, come on, man,

2284
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,600
Speaker 3: let's go. You got it all from a.

2285
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 5: Positive it's positive reinforce.

2286
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 3: It's positive stuff from a passionate guy. And and and

2287
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 3: we always you always, you know, a finger quotes you.

2288
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 3: Hear it all the time. All he's misunderstand good Diggs is.

2289
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 3: I mean, people are really even when he came from

2290
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 3: to Buffalo from Minnesota, all those people in Minnesota's, oh,

2291
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 3: he's never gonna all this stuff. They said, he's never

2292
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 3: gonna get along with Josh Allen. They're gonna be a man.

2293
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's been a love affair. It has been

2294
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 3: unbelievable to see these guys be buddies and hang in

2295
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 3: there through tough stuff. And he has never faltered.

2296
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 5: Right, And I was just gonna add that. I think

2297
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 5: the only thing that he's misunderstood on is when they

2298
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 5: when people see him on camera being animated with his teammates.

2299
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 5: I've actually heard some of those conversations on the practice field,

2300
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 5: because he does it on the practice field almost as

2301
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 5: much as he does on the game on game day,

2302
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 5: because the guy is always juicing up the team and

2303
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 5: just having been within the earshot of it, I can

2304
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 5: promise you it is always positive reinforcement. Now, sometimes they'll

2305
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 5: be a little tease thrown in there.

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01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a little needle in there too.

2307
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. Like sometimes it'll be like, oh, I thought you

2308
01:56:57,560 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 5: were catching everything today, and that's like it'll be one of.

2309
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 3: Those guys teammates. You love that because that's where it's fun.

2310
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 5: But that's holding somebody accountable too.

2311
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also the fun part of Hey.

2312
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 5: You told me you're going to catch everything in practice today?

2313
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 3: What's that? Yeah?

2314
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 5: What's that right there?

2315
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 3: It's a it's a sign and and guys and people

2316
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 3: know this when he in one of those environments. It's

2317
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 3: a gesture of affection when you when you're teasing a guy,

2318
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 3: right because they you.

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01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 5: Know, I'm noticing I noticed I pay attention.

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01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 3: It's it's something that obviously, I mean, brothers do it

2321
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 3: to each other big time, and big families and small

2322
01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 3: families too. Nobody knows how to get under your skin

2323
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 3: like a little brother. And it's really you know, it's

2324
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 3: enraging but endearing at the same time. It's a it's

2325
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 3: a great dynamic, and he plays it perfectly with the

2326
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 3: guys on the team, and I and and and I

2327
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 3: think that's when it's all said and done, I think

2328
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 3: there's no doubt for everything we the roller coaster we

2329
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 3: rode this last offseason with him, I just think it's

2330
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 3: he is going to be absolutely beloved for eternity by

2331
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 3: Bills fans when it's all said and done. I don't

2332
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 3: when it's going to be, hopefully it's not another for

2333
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 3: another decade, but when it's all said and done, I

2334
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:14,919
Speaker 3: think he is going to be beloved by this franchise

2335
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 3: and the people who played with him and the people

2336
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 3: who watched him.

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Speaker 5: Break time for us here, but we're gonna get back

2338
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 5: to more of your phone calls as we are looking

2339
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 5: from you the keys for a Bill's victory tonight against

2340
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 5: the Broncos. Your phone calls next TODIGHTO three oh five

2341
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Speaker 5: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's a familiar time in Buffalo. The LEAs are falling,

2344
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 2: the tailgate fires are roaring. You might say it's getting chilly,

2345
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 2: and for those outside of Buffalo, they're deciding it's time.

2346
01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 4: To write us off.

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01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 3: I do think it's time hit the panic button.

2348
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 4: It's stuck and regressing.

2349
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 5: They're still searching for an identity in November.

2350
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 4: But within our walls.

2351
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 3: I know they're ready for the challenge and said, what

2352
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills.

2353
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 4: Do its side our locker room.

2354
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 6: We've got our best football to play in.

2355
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 20: Front of us.

2356
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 7: We know what time it is. It's prime time. Time

2357
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 7: for our offense to light it up.

2358
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:33,800
Speaker 5: Flyers to the Enzo wide open, Waltz is Itto the Enso.

2359
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 2: The time for our defense to shut it down, lock.

2360
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 5: It collapsing, pressure coming, sack.

2361
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 4: Bill Mafia. It's time to mount up.

2362
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 5: It's a Buffalo game day.

2363
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 3: Monday.

2364
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 5: Is it gonna get here? Steve, my gosh, it's taken

2365
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 5: forever to get to Monday night.

2366
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 3: I know it's like not even three o'clock it's.

2367
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 5: We have like five is gonna be beside himself for eight.

2368
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 3: Hours, five and a half hours, and they're gonna play

2369
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 3: a whole three hour game today.

2370
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 5: Still, yes, that is his scheduled to happen, because.

2371
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 3: Still daylight out.

2372
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 5: I can't even it is Windows Cubicle, Chris Brown, Steve

2373
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,480
Speaker 5: Tasker here with you on one Bills Live a Buffalo

2374
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 5: Game Day, Monday edition, and we are asking you at

2375
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 5: eighth three oh five point fifty for your keys to

2376
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:31,840
Speaker 5: a Bill's victory tonight. And we go back to the

2377
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 5: phones for answers and leading us off this segment is

2378
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Speaker 5: Mark all the way out in South Dakota. What do

2379
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 5: you got for us?

2380
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 3: Mark?

2381
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 8: Yes, I just want to know, why is it that

2382
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 8: Ellen doesn't spread the football around a lot more than

2383
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 8: he's been I know, I noticed in the Cincinnati gag

2384
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:53,320
Speaker 8: that near the end of the game he started spreading

2385
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 8: the ball around and Diggs was able to get open

2386
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 8: because they wasn't triple teaming him and double teaming him. Uh,

2387
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 8: he got thing coverage. He was more open. I hadn't

2388
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 8: noticed that when he started spreading the ball around. The

2389
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 8: other receivers seem to be more involved in the game.

2390
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 8: I was just wondering, is he gonna continue to do

2391
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 8: that spread the ball around so we can get more

2392
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 8: involvement in the other receivers in his backs and give

2393
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 8: that Cook more of a chance of running.

2394
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, good question, Mark, it's a good question, good observation.

2395
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 3: I agree with you. They play better when he spreads around.

2396
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 3: There's to me, now there's four real guys who are

2397
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 3: candidates to be those top four guys for him. It's Digs, Kinkaid, Cook,

2398
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:46,320
Speaker 3: and amazingly, I think it's Shakir rather than rather than

2399
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 3: Gave Davis. I think those four guys are the ones

2400
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 3: you can look for to be the main targets. And

2401
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:56,040
Speaker 3: you're right, I think those four guys have been gotten

2402
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 3: the lion's share targets they did last week. They did

2403
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 3: last week. I think it was it was it looked

2404
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 3: good doing it. But and I think they're really highly efficient.

2405
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean Josh is completing in between seventy five or

2406
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 3: between seventy and seventy five percent of his passes or thereabouts.

2407
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned in last week's last week's recap of

2408
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:16,240
Speaker 5: the game, Steve, I think it was on last Monday

2409
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:19,880
Speaker 5: show after the Sunday night game, Kincaid catches ten of

2410
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 5: eleven targets, Diggs catches six of seven, Shakiir's four for four,

2411
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 5: Cooks four for four, and then after that, you know

2412
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:30,320
Speaker 5: it's Murray one for one, Sherfield won for two. Yeah,

2413
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 5: it was just Davis and Hardy that didn't catch anything

2414
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 5: on two and one target respectively.

2415
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 3: Right, those guys catch everything. Josh throws it to him,

2416
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 3: it seems, and that's a recipe for sixcess. It counts

2417
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 3: for something, that's a recipe for success. So i'm i'm

2418
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm kind of with you Mark out in South Dakota.

2419
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 3: I'm he spread it around with those guys because they

2420
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 3: catch it and they do something with it. Kincaid has

2421
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 3: been for lack ofverybody. He's exactly what Bill's fans thought.

2422
02:02:58,440 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 4: He would be.

2423
02:02:59,160 --> 02:02:59,400
Speaker 5: Yep.

2424
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, Bills fans are like, yeah, man,

2425
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 3: give me more. That guy's really good.

2426
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 5: Yep. Absolutely, And you know efficiency counts when it comes

2427
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 5: to staying on the field. And you know we talk

2428
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 5: all the time on this show. When the Bills come

2429
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:18,640
Speaker 5: up short, usually it's execution related. Last week, those top

2430
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:22,200
Speaker 5: four receiving targets they executed. They deserve more playing time

2431
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 5: going forward. I'll say this too, you're gonna execute, you

2432
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 5: get to play.

2433
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:27,400
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too. I think the surprising guy

2434
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 3: thus far this season, over the last month has been

2435
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:34,360
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir. He has had a very high success rate.

2436
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,800
Speaker 3: When he gets targeted, he catches it. He has gotten separation.

2437
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 3: Josh has trusted him more and more, and he's been good.

2438
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 3: I think he's been a real pleasant surprise for this offense,

2439
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 3: and I think you can count on him going forward

2440
02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 3: to to be a bigger part.

2441
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 5: I don't think it's any coincidence that you know, he

2442
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 5: was here in studio a few weeks ago, and right

2443
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 5: after that, you know, all of a sudden bang, Right,

2444
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 5: he's taken off.

2445
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 3: Right, we should get Josh in here. I'm just letting

2446
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 3: you know, Vaughn should come on the show.

2447
02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, they'll have a three sack night after he shows

2448
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 5: up in studio here. Let's go back to the phones

2449
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 5: into Chuck and Buffalo next. Well, let me pull them

2450
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 5: up here.

2451
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:06,440
Speaker 6: What do you have?

2452
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:07,840
Speaker 5: First shock? You're on one Bill's lives.

2453
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 9: Hey, I just drove home from to come home for

2454
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 9: a vacation. I grew up between war memorial and Offerman,

2455
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 9: so might is a little bit older than most. I'm

2456
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 9: a pre Steve tasker in that better run guy and

2457
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 9: a lot of football. My issue, my question is it appears.

2458
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 9: In fact, you can see it. Buffalo's a all rhythm

2459
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 9: team and offensive rhythm team. They can timing, timing and timing.

2460
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 9: It becomes their asset. However it is well, you've seen

2461
02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 9: it take place this year more than ever before. The

2462
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:51,160
Speaker 9: key to stopping rhythmic teams is what keeping them on

2463
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 9: the bench and the team. The games that they have had,

2464
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:58,920
Speaker 9: not a lot of successive offensively low scoring games, have

2465
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:02,600
Speaker 9: been those games where the offense for the opposing team

2466
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 9: has been able to consistently maintain control of the ball.

2467
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,320
Speaker 9: Football is a game of time, It's a game of clock.

2468
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 9: You only get sixty minutes to play it. So they've

2469
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 9: been able to do that. And I heard you mentioned

2470
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 9: the receivers Alan has and I'm hating, I'm I'm just

2471
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:23,840
Speaker 9: a thing. You can see where Alan has. Certainly the

2472
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 9: best receiver on that team is Digs and there's no

2473
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 9: question about that heart and soul. He's a firebrand. But

2474
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 9: you shut him down, it makes the other guys available.

2475
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:39,160
Speaker 9: But if they haven't gained the rhythm as a team,

2476
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:42,080
Speaker 9: they don't seem to be able to be as productive

2477
02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 9: as Diggs. And I wonder how the coaching staff or

2478
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 9: if the coaching staff has developed something that will keep

2479
02:05:54,160 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 9: the offense productive while they cannot be in they came

2480
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 9: as much as they'd like to be. And I'll hang

2481
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:03,680
Speaker 9: up and listen.

2482
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:06,280
Speaker 3: Well, you probably a lot of fans are gonna roll

2483
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 3: their eyes at me when I say this, because we've

2484
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 3: been this has been a hot button subject for the

2485
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:13,800
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. It's called shall we do the

2486
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 3: finger quotes? It's called complimentary football, And you're right, Chuck.

2487
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 3: The defense has got to get the other team off

2488
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 3: the field, so Josh Allen and the offense can can

2489
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 3: get their rhythm when it and get off to a

2490
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:26,320
Speaker 3: slow start. Now it doesn't.

2491
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 5: Stops on third downs or takeaways. And they haven't had

2492
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 5: they haven't had takeaways at all.

2493
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 3: Their takeaways. The takeaways kind of dried up when they

2494
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 3: start getting injured. And you know that's kind of more

2495
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 3: injured tonight, right, And I think and also too, offense

2496
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:41,760
Speaker 3: needs to help themselves too, Like you know, early in

2497
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati game, Josh throws, they get one offensive playing

2498
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:47,160
Speaker 3: Josh throws to the other team deep in their own end.

2499
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 3: Now they didn't come away with points, but one play

2500
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:55,280
Speaker 3: an unsuccessful play at that in like ten or twelve

2501
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 3: minutes a game time, it's tough to get your rhythm

2502
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:59,720
Speaker 3: offensively when you're sitting on the bench for you know,

2503
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 3: you're eating. You gotta stretch. You're over there so long.

2504
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 3: You gotta stay loose.

2505
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 5: In New England, you know, New England gets the opening position,

2506
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 5: they go down, they kick a field goal. First play

2507
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 5: from scrimmage, Josh thus a pick. They go in, they

2508
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 5: score a touchdown. You're down ten to nothing before half

2509
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 5: the first quarters.

2510
02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 3: Over right, So a little bit, yes, it's self inflicted,

2511
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of it. But defense could help them too,

2512
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 3: and the defense did bail them ount in Cincinnati, they

2513
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 3: got nothing off that interception. Yeah, that's right, But then

2514
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 3: again they turned it over again going in to get

2515
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 3: it close and to where give them a chance to

2516
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 3: win the game. And Kim Kate coughs going in on

2517
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:34,560
Speaker 3: the eleven yard line. So yeah, they could help themselves

2518
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 3: and the defense could help them. But that's what you know.

2519
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 3: And the roller eyes again, it's complimentary football. The team wins,

2520
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 3: the offense doesn't win, defense doesn't win. They all got

2521
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:45,680
Speaker 3: to do it together. And everything that one side of

2522
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,320
Speaker 3: the ball does either helps or hurts the other.

2523
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 5: That's why it's gonna be so important for them to

2524
02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:52,840
Speaker 5: stop the run tonight, because if you don't stop that

2525
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 5: Proncos run game, they're gonna do just what Chuck said,

2526
02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 5: They're gonna keep that Bill's offense on the bench. Yeah,

2527
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 5: and like last week, for example, Bills have nine possessions

2528
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 5: for the whole game. Nine. It's usually ten, eleven, twelve.

2529
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 5: If you're lucky, they had nine, right, And that inhibits

2530
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 5: your ability to score points too. You just have the

2531
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 5: ball less times. If you get a takeaway, you get

2532
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 5: a couple extra possessions. Yeah, here and there, let's go

2533
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 5: to Andrew in North Carolina next. What do you have

2534
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:20,360
Speaker 5: for us? Andrew?

2535
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 22: Hey, guys, I feel like I've noticed less excitement and

2536
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 22: emotion out of the team on the field and on

2537
02:08:27,400 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 22: the sideline this year. Do you think that that's just

2538
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 22: because of the lack of success they've had on the field,

2539
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 22: or it's something changed in the locker room?

2540
02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think on a game to game basis, I mean,

2541
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:39,960
Speaker 3: there was plenty of emotion weeks two, three, and four

2542
02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:42,960
Speaker 3: when they're hanging thirty eight, thirty seven, and forty eight

2543
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 3: and letting the other team score a total of thirteen

2544
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:47,600
Speaker 3: points in two of those games, and then twenty points

2545
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 3: the last game when they were up forty eight. I mean,

2546
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 3: so yeah, I think having success breeds that kind of excited,

2547
02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 3: animated sideline. When you're in a tight game, you'll see some,

2548
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 3: but it won't be the same brand of emotion. Even

2549
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 3: in a tight game where you're playing well, you'll see

2550
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 3: guys getting like a digs kind of thing, like on, hey,

2551
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 3: he's kind of firing this kind of angry talk on

2552
02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:14,280
Speaker 3: the sidelines. When you're in a tight game and you

2553
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 3: got to bear down and cut down on the mistakes

2554
02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 3: and make a play, that's a different kind of emotion

2555
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 3: than when you're hanging forty eight on the other team.

2556
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's a game by game thing.

2557
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a chronic issue one way or

2558
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 3: the other.

2559
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And the only time that I really saw a

2560
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 5: major lack of mojo from this team, I would say

2561
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 5: was probably Week seven at New England. That was the

2562
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 5: only time where I'm looking down at the Bill's sideline

2563
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:48,160
Speaker 5: and it is noticeably quieter than usual. In like End

2564
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 5: to End. They had no mojo in that game, and

2565
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, I think it is largely rooted in

2566
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 5: the play on the field, because if you just don't

2567
02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 5: feel like you have it some days, it's hard to

2568
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:04,400
Speaker 5: manufacture the energy to try to kick yourself back into

2569
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 5: rhythm sometimes and that is why Diggs is often the

2570
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 5: guy on the sidelines, and he was doing that in

2571
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:10,720
Speaker 5: New England too, because he saw it just like we

2572
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:13,400
Speaker 5: did up in the broadcast booth. I was like, where's

2573
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:15,840
Speaker 5: the mojo right now? There was none of it on

2574
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 5: that sideline that week. Now, that's the only week that

2575
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:23,520
Speaker 5: I can definitively tell you that it was lacking like

2576
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 5: End to End on that bench the only week. Every

2577
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,800
Speaker 5: other week there has been some pocketive players that have

2578
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 5: been putting a charge in the rest of them. So

2579
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 5: it more often than not it is not an issue.

2580
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 5: But when your play on the field is suffering, yeah,

2581
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:39,600
Speaker 5: it is hard to dredge that up and get back

2582
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:41,880
Speaker 5: on a level where you know you have to be

2583
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 5: to be successful in that given game in that given week.

2584
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 3: I think one of the things too, is that you

2585
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:52,000
Speaker 3: don't have to dredge it up when it's going well, yeah,

2586
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:54,800
Speaker 3: you know. I mean sometimes it's organic. Yeah, it's organic.

2587
02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 3: And I think sometimes when you get the when you

2588
02:10:57,480 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 3: get to a point where you do need a little

2589
02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 3: juwe some guys say up and say, hey, I don't

2590
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:03,240
Speaker 3: like what I'm seeing. Let's go and it'll be a

2591
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:08,120
Speaker 3: serious conversation like that. But yeah, when you're having success,

2592
02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:11,440
Speaker 3: it just happened. It's all, Yeah, it just happens.

2593
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 5: Gotta take a break here. We'll try to squeeze a

2594
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:15,480
Speaker 5: call or two in when we come back to close

2595
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 5: it up here on this Buffalo Game Day Monday edition

2596
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 5: of One Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, I gonna

2597
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:40,240
Speaker 5: squeeze one more call in here. On One Bill's Live

2598
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 5: on a Buffalo Game Day Monday, we go to Dan

2599
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:44,240
Speaker 5: in Rochester. What do you got Dan?

2600
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 21: Hey, Hey, guys, I just had a quick question about

2601
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:50,120
Speaker 21: our wide receivers are receiving.

2602
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 10: Core in general.

2603
02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:52,760
Speaker 21: Yes, now I'm more of a hockey guy, but we

2604
02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 21: used to have two types of coaches, ones that were like,

2605
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:57,880
Speaker 21: I don't care how you get to the spot, you

2606
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:00,000
Speaker 21: need to be at it on your ankles. You crawl

2607
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 21: just be there, and other ones we're more like, no,

2608
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 21: you got to go this way, that way, you're cut

2609
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 21: in front of them and make room for him. You're like,

2610
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 21: I guess, like some coaches and the NFL scheme guys open,

2611
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:15,040
Speaker 21: what do we do with our receivers because obviously Diggs

2612
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 21: is talented enough to beat guys and get open, But

2613
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 21: it doesn't seem like our other receivers except for maybe

2614
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 21: the kincaid now have that. So do we help them?

2615
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 21: Do we like you undercut each other and do those

2616
02:12:28,360 --> 02:12:31,360
Speaker 21: rubb routes and all that we do. We just expect

2617
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:33,840
Speaker 21: our guys to get there and if they don't, they don't.

2618
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:35,080
Speaker 21: That's all I have.

2619
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 3: All right, thanks, Yeah, No, well, I it's kind of

2620
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 3: two different things you're asking. Yeah, when you're in when

2621
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:46,839
Speaker 3: you're playing football and you're playing offense as a receiver

2622
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 3: and they call a route tree, certainly there's something to

2623
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 3: be said for getting to a spot on the time

2624
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 3: you're supposed to get there and all of that. Stevie

2625
02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:57,320
Speaker 3: Johnson was the was the great exception to the rule

2626
02:12:57,640 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 3: where you got to run the route. Because what happens

2627
02:12:59,880 --> 02:13:03,120
Speaker 3: is when a receiver goes out he's gonna run a route.

2628
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 3: The quarterback can see him and knows where he's supposed

2629
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:09,480
Speaker 3: to be. He's gonna throw it to him. Well, if

2630
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 3: the receiver's out there doing some ka ka mamy thing,

2631
02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:14,680
Speaker 3: and then finally ends up where he's supposed to be.

2632
02:13:14,720 --> 02:13:16,320
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks looking out there and seeing him doing all

2633
02:13:16,360 --> 02:13:18,360
Speaker 3: this kakamamy stuff going on, I ain't throwing to him.

2634
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:20,680
Speaker 3: What's he doing? He must have mis he missed the play.

2635
02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 3: He doesn't know what he's doing, so he'll go someplace

2636
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:26,840
Speaker 3: else fits and Stevie said fits news. Stevie would sooner

2637
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:27,800
Speaker 3: or later is going to get to where he.

2638
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 5: Was supposed to be the spot when you're supposed to

2639
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,040
Speaker 5: do that's very however you want to do.

2640
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:35,280
Speaker 3: It, that's very unusual skeeping scheming guys open and having

2641
02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 3: guys good enough to get open. Okay, there's both, no question,

2642
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:45,080
Speaker 3: but there's no route combination that's on the played in

2643
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,880
Speaker 3: the NFL today. It's not designed to get guys open. Yeah,

2644
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 3: certainly your skill helps, but that's yeah, they're all designed

2645
02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 3: for that.

2646
02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:54,320
Speaker 5: It was dan Orlowski's opinion when we had him on

2647
02:13:54,320 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 5: the show last Tuesday that the Bills rely a lot

2648
02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:00,920
Speaker 5: on execution of the players to win on a route.

2649
02:14:01,280 --> 02:14:03,880
Speaker 5: He believes there is some elements where the scheme is

2650
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:07,000
Speaker 5: designed to make it easier, but not nearly as much

2651
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 5: as it is in other offenses. That's his opinion, whether

2652
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:13,720
Speaker 5: it's accurate or not. Only the players and coaches inside

2653
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:16,040
Speaker 5: that offensive room with the game book, with the playbook

2654
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,560
Speaker 5: in hand, No, for sure, that's going to do it

2655
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,920
Speaker 5: for us today. Steve and I will be right back

2656
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:25,440
Speaker 5: here tomorrow to discuss the Monday night game between the

2657
02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:28,560
Speaker 5: Bills and Broncos, so full wrap up on tomorrow's show.

2658
02:14:28,920 --> 02:14:38,480
Speaker 5: We'll see it at one pm. Enjoy the game, everybody,