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Speaker 2: excuse me for the rank. It just I forgive me

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Speaker 2: for what he retired as. But Daniel Gabe, former US

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Speaker 2: officer graduate of West Point Taint commander of one hundred

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show, Daniel. I'm

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Speaker 2: tickled to be on the show. Thanks for having me on. RETD. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, I just want to say thanks to Nathan

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Speaker 2: onto the show. Okay. And I'm always like, why am

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Speaker 2: and Daniel, you're no different, right, You've been through the military.

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Speaker 2: You joined at a young age. How old were you

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Speaker 3: Wanted to be in the military from when I was

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Speaker 2: to the promoter. Exactly, exactly exactly. So, so you fell

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm soaking it up. I'm just thinking, like, what

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Speaker 3: and as I as I as I pushed into the

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00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,239
Speaker 3: latter half of my life here, and I'm like, you know,

432
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 3: maybe we ought to teach our sons to play piano

433
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,479
Speaker 3: and not to shoot rifles.

434
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: But that's just well, I have a piano right here,

435
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 2: and I have a grenade launcher right there. Yeah, I'm

436
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: kind of like both of Okay, I'm just saying I

437
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 2: have a piano, grenade launcher, drum set downstairs. Put my

438
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: son in boxing, sir, and snowboarding. Of course, I believe.

439
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in getting outside. You know, a

440
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: lot of my friends who are veterans who have been

441
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,479
Speaker 2: wounded or go through just mental toughness breakdowns. I might

442
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 2: go outside, go for a hike, go you know, go

443
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 2: explore your community, Go for a walk in the park,

444
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: Go look at the ducks, watch them just quack. Okay,

445
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: maybe feed them some something lettuce or some whatever. Just

446
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 2: just be a part of it. Now you've gotten wounded,

447
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 2: you've had some dawn days on yourself, yeah twice where

448
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: you've been just bummed out on yourself laying there just

449
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 2: like you know, wallowing. We've all done it. We've all

450
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 2: wallowed in our own self. Do you find something that

451
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,479
Speaker 2: gets you outside that you go and participate. I know

452
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 2: you you're amputee and you lotched your right leg right.

453
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm a right leg hip level of amputee.

454
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: That happened and I got wounded the second time in

455
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 3: January of five and spent about five months as an

456
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Speaker 3: inpatient in the hospital and then another six months as

457
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 3: an out patient. And you know, I think that physical

458
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: activity was really important in my recovery, so I started

459
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 3: I sort of started hand cycling by the end of

460
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 3: my recovery, you know, the next year especially, I really

461
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: got into hand cycling because I wanted to rebuild my

462
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 3: strength and I was swimming a lot of the gym.

463
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah it's hand cycling like this the hands aver. But anyway,

464
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 3: so I did that for a long time, or for

465
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: a year or two, and then I sort of drifted.

466
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: I got into triathlon and I ended up doing a

467
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 3: full iron Man in twenty ten, which was long long,

468
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 3: but so it's funny. People are like, how do you

469
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: how do you ride a bike? And I'm like, you

470
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 3: just it's just like riding a bike. You just get

471
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 3: on and start peddling. And so so I did. I

472
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 3: did a full iron Man in twenty ten. And I

473
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: do a lot of hunting. I do a lot of

474
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 3: you know, I'm outside. I'm not a very good fisherman.

475
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: I like fishing, but I do try to spend time

476
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: outside because I think that that that you know, sun

477
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: on your skin and a little wind in your hair

478
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: is probably probably a good thing.

479
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: For everybody's mental health.

480
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: But for me, especially after I got hurt, I needed

481
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 3: to find new ways of doing that. So I like

482
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: getting outside for sure. Yeah, and I think it's really

483
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 3: I think it's really important. And the other thing is,

484
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: you know, like doing stuff socially with people. And I'm

485
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: not talking like drinking is not social with people. Drinking

486
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: is just drinking. But you know, going sailing or going

487
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: you know, I have twin sons and we have we

488
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 3: have a little crappy sailboats.

489
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: And you have like twin suns.

490
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, twins or sixteen. They're they're awesome, They're great, great,

491
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: but that is awesome.

492
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun.

493
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: And just like we do jiu jitsu together and listen

494
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: this morning, we went to it. We have a little

495
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: gym in the basement. We went to our gym, and like,

496
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's fun, man. And I think I

497
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: think people keeping their bodies healthy is really important. It's

498
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 3: like when we were kids, Man, fifty was dead. Fifty

499
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: was old and fat and ill maintainedly. Yeah, you know,

500
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: it's like yeah fifty, yeah he was. And now you know,

501
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: this is what fifty should look like. Right, you know,

502
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: I go six, right, I feel okay, yeah, yeah, you

503
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: got to stay healthy. You gotta stay Yeah. So I

504
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: think that's really important. And as all of usterans age,

505
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: you know, as all of us ge what veterans age,

506
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: it's like it's like, yeah, we got to do do

507
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: well about taking care.

508
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Of ourselves for sure. Yeah, especially you know, your mental health.

509
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: I can only imagine it can get right down dirty

510
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: inside your own head, you know, because we all have

511
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: been there. Yeah, we are all human. And so if

512
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: something happens, if I was to lose a part of me,

513
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: I would probably just be bummed out for a minute.

514
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: But you've overcome that is what I'm saying. You've persevered. Now,

515
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've gone to the Veterans Administration hospital. Okay,

516
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: your local VA. I'm sure they probably see that, you know,

517
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: maybe you're an officer and they might give you some

518
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: respect as well, like what did you retire as? So

519
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: lieutenant colonel, you know, they probably say, Lieutenant colonel Gay,

520
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: you want to come up to your appointment. Maybe do

521
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: you ever talk to them about adaptive sports or you

522
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: know something that you can use for yourself or physical

523
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: recreational therapy. I push that. I really want a lot

524
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: of our veterans to go and ask their advocate at

525
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: the VA for recreational therapy or you know, do you

526
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: have something that can work for my adaptiveness, like maybe

527
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: a kayak?

528
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the VA is great about that, but I

529
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: would just point out, I mean, I'm just gonna give

530
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: a shout out to a couple of different organizations were

531
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: really really awesome. So I learned to kayak with a

532
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: with an organization called Team river Runner. It's a nationwide

533
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: organization Teamriverrunner dot org. I think it's their website and

534
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 3: uh and actually they're such good dudes. They just took

535
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: they just took a trip to Ukraine to try to

536
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: teach Ukrainian amputees and some blind guys and stuff. How

537
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 3: to how to do whitewater whitewater kayaking. They've taken a

538
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: they took a guy with no arms down the down

539
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: the down the Grand Canyon, which is truly world class.

540
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: Huge.

541
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they took a blind guy down the guided a

542
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 3: blind guy on a kayak down I mean, think about it, right,

543
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: So so anyway, yeah, yeah, Team river Runner is great for

544
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: that kind of specific you know, kayaking thing. There's the

545
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: other kayaking adaptive organizations Adaptive Sports or Disabled Sports USA.

546
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: It's really great. They've got d s U s A.

547
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: They've got really really good like ski programs. I learned

548
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: to ski again, I ski with one leg because I

549
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: only have one leg. But the one ski that's what

550
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: that's what I do. I do the one ski thing.

551
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: So really it's great. Yeah, so if you're so, you know,

552
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: if you're a veteran and you're out there man, like

553
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: I do jiu jitsu with with an organization where I

554
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: got basically basically got a scholarship to train jiu jitsu

555
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: for a year and then I've just continued to train

556
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu. Now I'm coming up on like two years.

557
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: I'm still a white belt, still learning, I think, but

558
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: I think that those kind of things are available to

559
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: you and you don't even need to go to the

560
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: VA to ask for that stuff. Just go, you know,

561
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: google it like adaptive Sports for Wounded Warriors or whatever,

562
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: and you're gonna find stuff and just reach out to

563
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 3: those organizations and and uh, you know, but there's no

564
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: excuse not to get active, even if you're in a leg,

565
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: missing your arms whatever. You know, it's it's just life, man,

566
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: and go get better and start doing stuff right.

567
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: And it's like you know, the old Jews there that

568
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: was the you. Now that there's a new you and

569
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 2: you have to focus on that person today and and

570
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: move forward with what you have. And I mean, it's

571
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: easier said than done. I just I literally just interviewed it.

572
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: I interviewed a young lady yesterday and she was she

573
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: lost her leg. She kept it for thirteen years though

574
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: she tried to keep it, but it was just not

575
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: functioning from the TBI that she received out of a

576
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: Chinook crash. Best King you'll yeah, if you if you

577
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: listen to best podcast she had just Also she tried

578
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: to keep her leg for like thirteen years until she

579
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: had to let it go. You know, they're like well, yeah,

580
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: she tried. But you know, I can just see that.

581
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's not the easiest thing to recover from.

582
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: But man, I'm so proud of you. I just want

583
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: you to know that. Okay, and your two sixteen year

584
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: old sons, obviously that's after the fact, sir. Right. Yeah,

585
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: they're good. They're good. They're good dudes. They're good dudes.

586
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: Those that's good. And there's sixteen and they're gonna be

587
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: driving on our roads.

588
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: They have their drivers, they're both good drivers. Were still

589
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: working on some basic road skills, but they're good. They're

590
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: good drivers, and they're good dudes.

591
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm changing my songs, Dad, I swear it's

592
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: just the songs. It's just my playlist. I'm just looking

593
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: at my playlist.

594
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: I saw dash gams front and rear for for reason.

595
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: So the boss move. We're trying to keep all the

596
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: drivers safe for sure. Nice. Are they identical? Identical? Ish? Yeah?

597
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: So they can use each other's license that they have to.

598
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: They probably could. Their faces will unlock each other's iPhones,

599
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: so there you go.

600
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: So that's pretty.

601
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: Identical, at least according to at least according to Apple

602
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: and TSA. They can also unlock each other's faces.

603
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: On Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Now that's funny.

604
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: Identical twins. Now, the same thing about her yesterday, Beth

605
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: who I interviewed, she has two twins or she's a twin,

606
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: and so she went to Basic and they have to

607
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: sign an agreement saying that if you have a child

608
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: that has to be taken care of, if you're going

609
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: to go to basic training, you know, like, hey, who's

610
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: gonna watch this kid while you go to basic and

611
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: do training.

612
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 3: Well, she had a twin, so she gave her five

613
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: year old to the twin, and the twin was able

614
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: to just be like the mom to her wall she

615
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: was a basic.

616
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: Isn't that funny? The twins? I love it, duse, You're awesome.

617
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: Twins are cool twins. If you're a twin out there,

618
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: hit me up. Let's get you on the show. Let's

619
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: talk about twine. The Corsican Twins are my favorite though,

620
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: and if you know who they are, I don't also

621
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: google them. Cheech and Chong. Oh funny. They play the

622
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: Corsican twins and they feel each other's pains and happiness.

623
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: It's totally like a Renaissance movie. Dude, I can't even

624
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: explain it. It's not anything like you think with Cheech

625
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: and Chong. There's nothing like they usually go on about.

626
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: It's just baguettes and pain. It's interesting and if you're

627
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: listening to this, go watch the Corsican Brothers. It's pretty funny.

628
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: So Daniel, what do you got going on next? You

629
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: got another triathlon coming up? What are you put in

630
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: your mind to no?

631
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: You know, So, I'm I'm uh, I'm trying to buy

632
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: a company right now. I'm just doing some stuff like

633
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: that and I want to I want.

634
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: To leave my own company. That'll be fun.

635
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: But I'm and I'm raising my family and doing the

636
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: best I can.

637
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: And how did you wind up with America's Warrior Partnership

638
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: with like Jim and did you reach out to them?

639
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: Did they reach out to you? Is it something you

640
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: were like googling adaptive and so so, I'm a huge

641
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: fan of AWP. I just think that there's a lot

642
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: of organizations in the veterans space who are doing low

643
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: quality work, I'll say, or they're they're so focused on

644
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: like you know, we were talking about adaptive sports. I

645
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: think adaptive sports are really important. But I think that

646
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, taking a guy fly fishing and then returning

647
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: him to the to the community and hoping that he's

648
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: his mental health is going to be better. It's like, yeah, maybe,

649
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: maybe for a few days, this mental health is going

650
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: to be better, but then it's going to take the

651
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: hard work of helping him get better over time. And

652
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: that's why to me, the America's Warrior Partnership community model

653
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: is really important, like linking veterans into their communities so

654
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: that they so it's not just a one time event,

655
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: it's a it's a long term commitment to help a

656
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: guy get better. I think that's really important. And then

657
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: the other thing they do that I really but I

658
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: think is really important is is they they work on

659
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: they're making data driven decisions, right, They're making data driven

660
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: They're doing they're letting the data drive what they do

661
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: instead of instead of their feelings. You know.

662
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: So the thing that I'm really most most stoked about

663
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: is their their work with suicide prevention. But what they believe,

664
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: and I think this is exactly right, is that you know,

665
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: we all think that the number is like twenty two

666
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: a day, but what they argue is that the number

667
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: is actually quite a lot higher because there's a lot

668
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: of veterans out there dying of unexplained reasons. You know,

669
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: is that is the twenty five year old who has

670
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: a single car accident at midnight where he hits a

671
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: bridge abutment. Is that a suicide or is that a

672
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: is that something else?

673
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Right?

674
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: Did he fall asleep or was he drunk or or

675
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: was it a suicide? Or maybe he was drunk and

676
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: it was a suicide because because i'lcohol use and suicide

677
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: sort of go together. And what they're doing is they're

678
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: using something called Operation Deep Dive to tear apart that

679
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: data so that we can tell a better story about

680
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: so we can better understand. I'll say, it's not a

681
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: good story, it's telling a story here, but so we

682
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: can understand what's happening, and therefore we can we can

683
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: prevent it by understanding what's happening. And I think that's

684
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: that's kind of the that's kind of what we.

685
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jim has talked about, you know, how they

686
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: pull data and they bring that into you know, investigating

687
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: what they need to move forward with. I've had him

688
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: on the show before, so you're just really speaking the

689
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: same broken record, you know, of statistics and data, and

690
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: we really find that as what is it. It's like

691
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: air conditioning in a car back in the day. Oh

692
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: do you want air conditioning? Yes? I do, Yes, I do.

693
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: AWP is the car with air conditioning, so that they

694
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: can help you, you know, be a little bit more

695
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: comfortable through your journey, I guess is what I'm trying

696
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: to get at eloquently, right, I'm just trying to put

697
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: it out there nicely, like hit them up right, there's

698
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: folks there ready to help. If they can't help, they

699
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: can point you in the direction of who can help.

700
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: And I also want to point out, like the VFW

701
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: in your area. If you are someone who's from the

702
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: Global War on Terror and you've been a part of

703
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: deployments and you're a veteran of foreign wars from a veteran,

704
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: go to the VFW. It's free. You can check them out.

705
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: They could point you to AWP. They might point you

706
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: to other places, but there's somebody there that'll help you

707
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: as well. And that's another outlet. You don't have to

708
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: go there just to drink. At the VFW, you can

709
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: go there to get a lot of people think, oh,

710
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: it's just the only therapy you're going to get there

711
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: is beer therapy, you know.

712
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's important for people to realize that,

713
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: you know, beer therapy is okay once in a while. Yeah,

714
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: I suppose, but you know, letting that be your whole

715
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: life is a bad idea. And so I think it's,

716
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: you know, just just a word of advice. I think health,

717
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: health and alcohol are not coinciding very well a lot

718
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: of times.

719
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: No, And I find it, like you said, let's talk

720
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: about the Saint Bernard that we all know that's in

721
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: an avalanche with a big barrel of probably some whiskey

722
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: on its neck. Okay, there's a rhyme or reason for

723
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: that to warm up the body inside a little bit

724
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: medicinally or like you know, like you said, you know,

725
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: have beer therapy. You go to a concert, you can

726
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: have a beer, but like just sit there and pound

727
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: them and pound them and say, hey, I just finished

728
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: thirty pack today, a thirty stone, Bros. You're out there, okay,

729
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: I hear. I know you're out there. I see you guys.

730
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: I know you guys. And it's like, why are you

731
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: drinking so many beers? Your kidneys, your liver, you have

732
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: to wash all of that. I mean, that's not healthy

733
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: and you're just sitting there.

734
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah so so

735
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: AWP America's Warrior Partnership. You know, if you go to

736
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: their website, America's Warrior Partnership dot org, I hope you'll

737
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: link it in the in the comments here or whatever.

738
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: But you know, if you're if you're a veteran who's

739
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: not struggling, listen, man, throw five bucks in the pot,

740
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: throw five bucks a month or whatever. If you're a

741
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: veteran who who is struggling, go and get help, man,

742
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: and then get your get your life squared away, get

743
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: better and realize that like you know, go into the

744
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: VA to get a one hundred percent disability rating, it's stupid,

745
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: Like don't let your disability rating or don't let the

746
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: VA drive how you see yourself. Instead, go out there

747
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: and make a better life for yourself and your family,

748
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: and then you can be proud of yourself rather than

749
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: than you know, going to tell all your buddies at

750
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: the BFW that you're one hundred percent disabled, Like, who

751
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: cares what your disability rating is? Knock it off, Like

752
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: stop trying to get money from other people and instead,

753
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: go make your life better. So that's what I would

754
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: say to the That's what i'd say two veterans out

755
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: there for sure.

756
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know, oh man, I have a friend

757
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: who would be three hundred percent right now if they

758
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: were like all their stuff. It's just like like no, really,

759
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: they go sit down and like, oh, you're one hundred percent.

760
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: Well I'm like three hundred percent.

761
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but what'd And I don't think you know,

762
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: that can be true without it being something to be

763
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: like it does that?

764
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: Are you proud? Like are you kind of don't talk

765
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: about it? You don't need to talk about it and

766
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: someone asks you, and it's a private conversation. You can

767
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: have a conversation, but it's not like, uh, you shouldn't

768
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: have a patch that says that on your back, is

769
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: what you're kind of saying. It's like people who you

770
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: know choose a politics. It's like, you know, you have

771
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: the right in America to be freedom of choice to

772
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: choose who you want, but you shouldn't have to force

773
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: me to choose who you want, you know, and you

774
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: still have to drag about it and like just keep

775
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: it to yourself, go to the voting booth and vote.

776
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: That's it. Just keep it to yourself. Okay, let's sit

777
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: there and tell me what to do or tell me

778
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: how you are anyway. Sorry, my little tangents here, my tangents. No,

779
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: you're good. No, you're good. You're cool. Bro. So you're

780
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: in your fifties. Huh, you're pushing sixties. Not yet.

781
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm forty nine, dude, good side of fifty. Oh, I

782
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: see what you say on the sad side, just like, oh,

783
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: you've seen me young. I was doing the math seventeen.

784
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: I was like, I graduated in ninety six. You're going

785
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: to college in ninety seven, right, is that what happens?

786
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I graduated ninety seven from college. Yeah.

787
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was born in seventy five, seventy seven.

788
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: You're just a couple. You just two three years a

789
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: big brother. There you go, good, good deal.

790
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: Kay, let's arm wrestle. I don't know if you want

791
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: to do that, man. Oh, oh, what's up. Let's go,

792
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go, let's go. I just got back

793
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: from boxing this morning. I'm feeling good. That's good. Yeah.

794
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: I actually I actually work with some friends who do

795
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: adaptive boxing, believe it or not, and they're veterans. They're

796
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: over in England and they do wheelchair adaptive boxing. What

797
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: a site? What a site? Yeah, my friend's double n

798
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: former sniper over there. He was just on patrol and

799
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: a roadside bomb just took him right there under his feet.

800
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: That's how it happened. Lost his friend immediately. But now

801
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: he's I was gonna ask you if he's on electric legs.

802
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: He's got. His name is Legs Liss. Actually his call

803
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: signs Legless, but he's got electric legs. And we were

804
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: walking around Brighton, England, and he started stiffing up, and

805
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's wrong. He's like, oh my batteries are

806
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: drying out. Bro, I don't got no more juice in him.

807
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: And so now he's like walking like a pirate, you know,

808
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: instead of.

809
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, I know exactly what kind of legs

810
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: you're talking about.

811
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: You know, I don't.

812
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: I don't use the prosthetic because I'm too high of

813
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 3: an amputee. But but.

814
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: I just used crutches. I just crutch around.

815
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: Do you have the like kind that our silver I

816
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: have good ones. I'm happy with what I got going on.

817
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: I'm all good man. I go bow hunting. I'll do

818
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff with It's fine.

819
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: You just use both crutches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you amble amble.

820
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: You got your good gate. You can move around pretty

821
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: good with them. Huh yeah, yeah, I can do fine.

822
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I'm just curious about that, you know

823
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: what I mean, because like I was on crutches for

824
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: six months and they sucked.

825
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: Well, if you pits they're not fitted right, they can

826
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: get Yeah, my armpits never touched. I mean the way

827
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: I do it, I'm good man. Like you just you

828
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: just learn how to do it right and you get

829
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: them fitted right and it's not that bad.

830
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: I wrapped up a bunch of like mole skin around

831
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: the handles to make them not small so that they

832
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: were bigger, so that i'd have a bigger grip on them,

833
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: and that was really nice. My mom actually was like, hey,

834
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: why don't we do these to your crutches, bro, you know,

835
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: why don't we make this like a little bit more padded,

836
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: And well we did. We put that on the armpits

837
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: as well. We wound up having the armpits a little

838
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: bit bigger because I'm six foot five. So when I

839
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: got crutches at I'm like oh, and it jacks you up, bro.

840
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: You know that's right, you know, I mean, it just does.

841
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: It makes your gait work weird and your body all

842
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: crutch in and you know it's just yeah, one hundred percent.

843
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: So I've been on crutches. I feel you. So that's

844
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: cool that I mentioned kayak and you said Team river Runner,

845
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna throw them out there again. Teamriverrunner

846
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: dot org does adaptive kayaking, so hit them up right,

847
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: and then also America America's Warriors partnership. Is it dot org?

848
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: I think it is right. We will have that brief

849
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: down in the bottom of the post on soft reap

850
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: dot com and that way any of our listeners that

851
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: just want to click on it will be able to

852
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: click on it a go to AWP site. You know,

853
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: they have a really slick app as well, So if

854
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: you happen to be listening to this or watching this

855
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: and you just want to hit the app on your phone,

856
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: you know, just do that, download it, check it out.

857
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: It's really clean, it's easy to scroll, and it's colorful.

858
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: It's red, white, and blue. Go check that out. Now.

859
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: It's their tenth anniversary. I believe they've been around for

860
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: ten years and uh, you know that's a really big thing,

861
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: a big deal for any kind of a business to

862
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: have hit that ten year mark. So congratulations to AWP

863
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: on a ten year anniversary of helping and hoping to help.

864
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: I know that's what it is. It's like, can we

865
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: help you? You can't help.

866
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: Listen, you can't help everybody, right, They're helping a lot

867
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: of people, and you know with with more resources and

868
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: more volunteers all that they can help more people. So

869
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: if you're in a good place and you want to help,

870
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 3: then go volunteer. And if you're in a bad place

871
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: and you need help, go to their website and ask

872
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: for help exactly. And then also, I don't really like

873
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: to date my podcast because I like it to be

874
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: kind of timeless because you're timeless.

875
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: But you know it is going to be. I think

876
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: we're filming this around. Is it National Purple Heart Day?

877
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: Is that come up? That's right? Today? Is National purpose

878
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: today is as a matter of fact, And so a congratulations,

879
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: be sorry. See I love you as an American and

880
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: someone who I don't know, and you win as a

881
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: stranger to me to go defend others from tyranny as well.

882
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: As protect us. So thank you on behalf of an American.

883
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: I just want you to know that we just met day.

884
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: If anybody didn't know that, you can really have an

885
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: organic conversation with somebody in this world without being at

886
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: each other's throats and animosity. Okay, you've got to listen

887
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: and just be open minded to what someone's saying, and

888
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 2: maybe you'll make a point, maybe they'll make a point,

889
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: maybe you'll see the middle. Okay, we just got to

890
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: be real. And you know, my dad did say that

891
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: the purple heart is the marksmanship badge of the enemy.

892
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: And because I asked him, how can he didn't have one,

893
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't want one. He's like, I don't

894
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: want that. He's like, I don't want it. I don't

895
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: want it. He's like, why would I want that?

896
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: You know, the only thing they're good for is not

897
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: getting speeding tickets. But that's a pretty pretty uh, that's

898
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: not that great.

899
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: Recruiter's like, all right, you get fifteen percent off at

900
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: Low's and if you get a purple heart, you may

901
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: not get pulled over.

902
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: You're not getting the speeding tickets for sure, you know, recruiter, thanks,

903
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: you were.

904
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: Totally oh man, oh man, Well, you know you've lost friends,

905
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: You've probably made friends three new friends. You've been able

906
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: to drive around in tanks. You're gonna be able to

907
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: have stories for your kids, to be able to be like,

908
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: whoa dad was a tank commander? Bro, Like, yeah, a tank.

909
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: I've had a great life, man, I've read I've had

910
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: a great life. Yeah. Yeah, you don't seem like you're

911
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: not having an okay time I'm having and you look

912
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: good too. Forty nine? What's up, bro? Having a good time? Time?

913
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: You look? You look thirty.

914
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: If you get rid of the big old scraggly sasquatch,

915
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: you know, it looks like it's there for the long haul.

916
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: It's been there for the long haul. You and I

917
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: mean yeah, you know, yeah, it's all there. I don't

918
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: have them not bald.

919
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh man. Yeah, I would grow one, but my wife.

920
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 3: I don't think my wife would let me, so I'm

921
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: just gonna stay with a sort of neatly trimmed Look.

922
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: I think I'm just waiting for the Adams Family to

923
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: cast member. Yeah that's a good one. You know.

924
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: It's like, well this is great man. I'm I'm super

925
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: super pleased to be able.

926
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: To talk to you. It's fun. Well, thank you for

927
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: being on the show. You know, I've taken about fifty

928
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: minutes an hour of your time. Our listeners have listened,

929
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: and they can go check out America Warriors Partnership dot org.

930
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: They can go, you know, check out their local career

931
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: center for the military and talk to a recruiter and

932
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: see if you can drive a tank. Dude, it'd be

933
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: so cool. I don't know. I just have this mindset,

934
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: you know, Like I see a lot of P nineties,

935
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: which I think are made for tanks, like for the

936
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: turret of a tank. The P ninety rifle, that little

937
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: submachine gun. I think it's like British or German FN make.

938
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: Maybe it's yeah, maybe it's maybe it's one of theirs.

939
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. Because they don't want long Yeah,

940
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: they didn't want long rifles because they'd have to like

941
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: pull it from the side and get it up to

942
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: a turret. So made that little P ninety. Yeah, yeah,

943
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: that's good, all right. I love it. I love it.

944
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: I love tanks. Thanks Dad, Thanks Dad, Thanks Dad. Okay,

945
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: you guys already know why I say that. Now, If

946
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: anybody has any questions or comments, and they want to

947
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: reach me. I'm on Instagram at rad rockin. You can

948
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: also hit up soft Rep on Instagram and drop us

949
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: a message. We try to be attentive to you if

950
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: you're out there. Also, again, I want to mention our

951
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: book club, which is soft rep dot com book hyphen Club.

952
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: We're really big on the book club and there's some

953
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: other new things coming around that I'm going to be

954
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: involved with and I'm excited. I'm going to just say

955
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of that right now. So pay attention

956
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: to this space right here. Make sure that fireplace is

957
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: always lit by buying our merch. I really appreciate it.

958
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: To everybody that helps me out, Brandon Webb, guy Anton Amanda,

959
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: everybody on the back end of my team that lets

960
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: me be on the front of soft Rep, I really

961
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And to my guest Daniel Gaide all right,

962
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: a retired lieutenant colonel tank armorer, awesome data, Twins Rockstar,

963
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: thank you so much for being on a representing AWP

964
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: and humans. Thank you. Thanks. Rered.

965
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you very much, man, and let's just

966
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: all go forward and be great vetteran together.

967
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You're always welcome back to be on

968
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: the show. If you have a message that you would

969
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: like to speak perfect, thanks man, all right, and to

970
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 2: my guest, thank you so much for being on the show.

971
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: And to you, my viewer, rock and roll Baby, all

972
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: day peace.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to self Red Radio.