WEBVTT - The Comcast Story: Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Get in with technology with tech Stuff from Stuff Tachom.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland here,

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<v Speaker 1>the moved host, and I am bringing to you part

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<v Speaker 1>two of the Tromcast story. In part one, you heard

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<v Speaker 1>about the founding of the company and the fledgling and

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<v Speaker 1>cable industry. Why the cable industry was even a thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. It was originally just so people

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<v Speaker 1>who could not receive over the air broadcast could still

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<v Speaker 1>get some programming, especially as television became a more and

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<v Speaker 1>more important means of communication in the dawn of the

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<v Speaker 1>digital age, and actually the broadcast age, I should say

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<v Speaker 1>precedes the digital age. But we talked about the founding

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<v Speaker 1>and the rise of of Brian Roberts, the son of

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<v Speaker 1>founder Ralph J. Roberts. I thought i'd pick up specifically

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<v Speaker 1>right there. This is going back to nine teen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Ralph J. Roberts named his son, Brian Roberts,

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<v Speaker 1>the president of Comcast. Not at the time, Brian was

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<v Speaker 1>just thirty years old, and the announcement caused a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a stir because here's this young guy taking over

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<v Speaker 1>the role of president of a major cable company. That

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<v Speaker 1>had been making some pretty pretty hefty moves in the industry. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph J. Roberts said he would stay on as the

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<v Speaker 1>chairman of the company. And while thirty is pretty darn

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<v Speaker 1>young to be the president of a rapidly growing company,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian had actually been working for Comcast in one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another since before he was ten years old. According

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<v Speaker 1>to some reports, he was seven when he started working,

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<v Speaker 1>which mean they had twenty three years of experience working

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<v Speaker 1>for Comcast. I do question exactly what he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>at seven years old, but that's the story, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in certain Comcast literature. But that would mean that he

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<v Speaker 1>was actually one of the more senior employees of Comcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He had worked there longer than a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>people there, so at least from the seniority standpoint, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that unusual, although some might argue that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little weird for a father to name his son

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the company he founded. At any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Roberts definitely dedicated himself to the success of the company,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no question about that. Around that time, operations

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<v Speaker 1>were continuing to grow in Britain. If you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the last episode, you know that one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast looked at in the eighties was to expand in

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK because it was starting to get really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to grow in the United States. They were starting

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<v Speaker 1>to reach full penetration of cable service and the few

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<v Speaker 1>cable companies that were left were really expensive and limited

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<v Speaker 1>in their range, so they looked elsewhere. Well By had

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<v Speaker 1>one million customers in the United Kingdom, and Comcast made

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<v Speaker 1>additional purchases in the cell phone space as well here

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States in order to grow its business

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<v Speaker 1>as m CIL was not growing as quickly as the

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<v Speaker 1>company had hoped. If you remember, am Cell was the

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<v Speaker 1>cable the cell phone service company they purchased in an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to get into a new field. But am Cell

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<v Speaker 1>kind of suffering the same issues that the cable service

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<v Speaker 1>industry was suffering, and that people weren't necessarily flocking to

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<v Speaker 1>m Cell to become customers. So instead of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>push that business out harder, Comcast looked at acquiring additional

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone service companies to bolster its customer base. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>so if growth isn't there, you should just go out

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<v Speaker 1>and buy it, I guess. In the headquarters for a Comcast,

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<v Speaker 1>which were located at one Meridian Plaza in Philadelphia, caught fire.

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<v Speaker 1>The building was totally destroyed. The fire took nineteen hours

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<v Speaker 1>to extinguish, so Comcast is actually the core headquarters was

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<v Speaker 1>shut down for about eight days until they set up

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<v Speaker 1>a temporary headquarters four blocks away from their original burnt

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<v Speaker 1>out home. Also in Comcast held a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>marketing stunt. They completed a five way international phone call

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<v Speaker 1>to demonstrate you don't need a telephone company to make

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<v Speaker 1>a call, even a complicated one, and that really prompted

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<v Speaker 1>telephone companies to argue that they should be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>enter the cable television business, since the cable television business

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<v Speaker 1>was now dominating in the phone business, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone coverage. Also in Comcast bought interest in Store Communications,

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<v Speaker 1>the company that had previously sold as Florida Operations to

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<v Speaker 1>several years earlier. You remember I mentioned that in the

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode. And Comcast became the third largest cable operator

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States after it acquired the US cable

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<v Speaker 1>operations of McLean Hunter. The company also launched a new

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<v Speaker 1>public company in the UK called Comcast UK Cable Partners,

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<v Speaker 1>and Comcast made golfers extremely happy when they partnered with

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<v Speaker 1>a few other companies and became a founding investor of

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<v Speaker 1>the Golf Channel, which, as I recall, was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest channels to offer high definition programming. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later, but thank goodness, you could watch

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<v Speaker 1>golf and high definition. I find golf very relaxing to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I that's the best thing I can say about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I certainly takes skill to play, and I

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<v Speaker 1>lack it at any rate. That year, Comcast also entered

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<v Speaker 1>a partnership with Sprint UH Telecommunications Incorporated and Cox Communications,

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<v Speaker 1>and together they formed the Sprint Telecommunications Venture, which was

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<v Speaker 1>later called Sprint Spectrum LP and later still was called

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<v Speaker 1>Sprint PCs. So once again Comcast can and used to

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<v Speaker 1>try and diversify, expanding into cellular service and wireless service.

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast itself would continue to grow mainly through acquisitions. As

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen in our previous episode, the company would buy

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<v Speaker 1>up other cable operators and mostly expand that way, eliminating

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<v Speaker 1>competition along the way, which certainly helped and in Comcast

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<v Speaker 1>had more than four point three million customers, mainly through

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<v Speaker 1>this tactic of buying up existing companies and converting them

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<v Speaker 1>into Comcast, so customers found themselves becoming Comcast customers. Just

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<v Speaker 1>through these acquisitions, Comcast bought a sixty three percent share

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<v Speaker 1>of the Philadelphia Flyers from a company called Spectacre, which

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<v Speaker 1>was created by Flyers founder Ed Snyder. Comcast had created

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<v Speaker 1>a new company with this partnership, and it's now called

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast Spectacre. The company not only owns and manages the

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<v Speaker 1>Flyers and also the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia, and

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<v Speaker 1>the company has divisions overseeing the venue, ticketing and concessions.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the only sporting franchise that Comcast owns.

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<v Speaker 1>There are others in the Philadelphia area as well, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I mean, that's again where Comcast headquarters are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where a couple of the co founders of Comcast

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<v Speaker 1>grew up, and uh, they are still very much heavily

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the sports area of Philadelphia. Comcast also announced

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<v Speaker 1>it would create a new channel in Philadelphia just called

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast sports Net, specifically a regional sports channel for the

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia area. And finally, in nine Comcast got into the

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<v Speaker 1>broadband business. The company launched a service called Comcast at Home,

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<v Speaker 1>with the at being the at symbol, and they launched

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<v Speaker 1>it in Baltimore, Maryland and Sarasota, Florida, kind of as

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of prototype. They're there ted sting grounds. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see if this business would have any legs,

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<v Speaker 1>and the trial run offered a cable modem service to customers,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it turned out, and ended up being a

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<v Speaker 1>fruitful business which Comcast quickly began to adopt and roll

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<v Speaker 1>out in other areas. In nineteen seven, another major company

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<v Speaker 1>took interest in Comcast, and that major company is Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bill Gates's company invested one billion dollars in Comcast

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<v Speaker 1>in nine The purpose of that investment was to help

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast deploy high speed data and video services through its infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>So Comcast was starting to look at ways of creating

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<v Speaker 1>a fiber optic coaxial sort of system, replacing lots of

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<v Speaker 1>copper lines with fiber optic lines to deliver much faster service.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was through this investment that Comcast was able

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<v Speaker 1>to afford that infrastructure without affecting its operating funds too much.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this way, this was a step to move

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<v Speaker 1>towards the world we live in now, in which people

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States can get high speed Internet streaming

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<v Speaker 1>to different devices in the home and not just PCs.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in the press release that Microsoft VP of

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<v Speaker 1>Corporate Development, Greg Maffei had taken part in, MAFE had said,

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<v Speaker 1>like Comcast, Microsoft has always believed that increasing network bandwidth

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<v Speaker 1>is a key to the eventual convergence of the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>the PC, and the television. So even back then, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a look at we're using these pipes in the

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<v Speaker 1>parlance of the web. We're using these pipes to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>TV and to deliver broadband. Broadband, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>being delivered over one of those six mega hurts channels

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<v Speaker 1>that I talked about in the first episode that cable

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<v Speaker 1>can you cable can hold hundreds of mega hurts, So

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<v Speaker 1>broadband internet connection is just six mega hurts of a cable.

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<v Speaker 1>That's plenty of base available for that. So Microsoft was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got this delivery system that's doing both television and Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only a matter of time before we start to

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<v Speaker 1>see these different technologies start to converge into a single technology.

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<v Speaker 1>And as it turns out, that's very much true. It

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<v Speaker 1>took a little bit longer than what they were expecting,

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine, but that's what we're seeing now. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people either have smart televisions or they have their

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<v Speaker 1>TVs hooked up to one or more set top devices

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<v Speaker 1>that allows them to view Internet content on their televisions.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are some who argue that eventually that will

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<v Speaker 1>be the primary and perhaps only way that will get

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<v Speaker 1>content on our TVs. That we won't receive programming from

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<v Speaker 1>a cable service directly. It will be through an Internet service.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's quite possible. Well, more and more people are

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<v Speaker 1>opting for that, as we'll say later in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and any rate, by this time, cable television wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>the largest division within Comcast. Cable TV was taking a

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<v Speaker 1>back seat. Uh So, Comcast had interest in content and

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<v Speaker 1>cellular services, and there were growing concerns that the company

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of delivering content was also in the business

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<v Speaker 1>of creating content, and those concerns would grow over the

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<v Speaker 1>following years. This is where you started seeing people make

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<v Speaker 1>noise about net neutrality. How can a delivery system remain

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<v Speaker 1>unbiased when it also was creating content being delivered on

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<v Speaker 1>that system. In other words, if you are a company

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<v Speaker 1>that creates content and you're also a company that allows

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<v Speaker 1>content to be delivered to customers. How can anyone be

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<v Speaker 1>certain that you don't give your own content preferential treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you slow down other types of content across your network,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't allow it to even broadcast on your network.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you tell your customers, hey, the stuff we have

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<v Speaker 1>is the best stuff out there. You don't need anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>These were big concerns, and while Comcast was largely playing nice, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a worry that perhaps in

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<v Speaker 1>the future that would not be the case. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we really started getting into the conversations about net neutrality

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<v Speaker 1>around this time. I mean they had been around before that,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is when it really started to take more

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<v Speaker 1>of a spotlight, and that would increase over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Skipping ahead to two thousand one, Comcast bought the Outdoor

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<v Speaker 1>Life Network and expanded its investment in the Golf Channel,

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<v Speaker 1>which ended up giving Comcast controlling interest in that network,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also announced it would purchase a T and

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<v Speaker 1>T broadband for a cool seventy two billion dollars. At

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<v Speaker 1>that time, a T and T broadband was the largest

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<v Speaker 1>cable TV provider in the United States, so Comcast both

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate some competition and grows its own cable television services

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<v Speaker 1>by buying another service, uh, which no big surprise again

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking back along the history of Comcast, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the tactic from day one. Really. In two thousand two,

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast unveiled plans for HD television and video on demand services. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the Golf Channel was one of those early HD channels.

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<v Speaker 1>As I recall, this was one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>the United States was definitely trailing behind Japan by several years.

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<v Speaker 1>But HD television's back in the early two thousand's were

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<v Speaker 1>really expensive. I don't know if you guys remember, because

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<v Speaker 1>these days, you know, you can go out and buy

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<v Speaker 1>an HD television for a relatively low cost, still several

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. But you know, when you start looking at

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<v Speaker 1>things like four K televisions, they are relatively inexpensive. HD ones,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, HD are relatively inexpensive compared to four K.

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<v Speaker 1>But just like four K. Now, back then, there were

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<v Speaker 1>very few channels that actually offered up h D content.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can get an HD television, but there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much to watch on it at the time. The Golf

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<v Speaker 1>Channel was one of those things, so if you really

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<v Speaker 1>like golf, you could get a really good, look at it. Uh. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Roberts assumed the role of CEO of the company,

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<v Speaker 1>becoming president and CEO in two thousand two. Not long

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<v Speaker 1>after that, he would actually also assume the role of chairman,

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<v Speaker 1>so became President, CEO and chairman of Comcast. Again, keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind this is the son of the founder, Ralph J. Roberts.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand four, Comcast made an unsuccessful bid for

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<v Speaker 1>a hostile takeover for the Walt Disney Company. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>might sound pretty weird, because today Disney is bigger than ever.

0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Disney owns so much. Disney bought Marvel, Disney bought the

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars franchise. The movie is are doing really well.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the early two thousand's Disney was in turmoil.

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<v Speaker 1>There were leadership issues. People were disenchanted with Michael Eisner

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<v Speaker 1>as the chairman of Walt Disney. The company itself was

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<v Speaker 1>not doing as well in the market as it had

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<v Speaker 1>been previously. Some people were beginning to feel that Disney

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<v Speaker 1>itself had the company had lost its way, and people

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<v Speaker 1>like Roy Disney, who had been on the board of directors,

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be in dismay at the state of the company.

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<v Speaker 1>So the bid was somewhere in the fifty four billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar range, and it was based on stock price. It

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a stock exchange deal if this

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<v Speaker 1>were to actually go through. But it was a hostile

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<v Speaker 1>takeover and does that mean well. Originally, Comcast was sending

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<v Speaker 1>messages to Disney chairman Michael Eisner, but Eisner refused to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss a deal. Then Comcast went over Eisner's head and

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<v Speaker 1>sent a letter of intent to directly to the board

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<v Speaker 1>of directors, saying, we want to purchase your company. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are the here's the deal where we want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in stock. The stock is currently valued at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four billion dollars. Now Disney itself was being valued somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixty six billion dollar range, but again it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of struggling at the time. So comcast hope

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<v Speaker 1>was that the board of directors would come and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Comcast and they would be able to work this

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<v Speaker 1>out and that uh, you know, maybe the word board

0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.360
<v Speaker 1>of directors thought this would be the best approach in

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<v Speaker 1>order to make money for shareholders, for Disney shareholders, and

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<v Speaker 1>the attempt was huge news because the number of properties

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been involved were significant. Disney at that

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<v Speaker 1>Time was already the parent company of ESPN and ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>so those would fall under the role of Comcast. Then

0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Comcast the delivery system would also be in control of

0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.800
<v Speaker 1>ABC and ESPN, and people were worried that this would

0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.600
<v Speaker 1>mean Comcast would be able to leverage that over other providers.

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.800
<v Speaker 1>So let's say Time Warner Cable and it comes up

0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and Comcast says, hey, I own ESPN, And if you

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<v Speaker 1>want ESPN to run on your cable networks to your

0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.760
<v Speaker 1>cable customers, you're gonna have to pay X amount to

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<v Speaker 1>have access to that content. Uh. You know, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a very powerful leveraging tool, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>no need to worry about that. The deal actually fell

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<v Speaker 1>through when shareholders for both Disney and Comcast were resisting

0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:37.119
<v Speaker 1>the move for different reasons. Comcasts stock price fell eleven

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<v Speaker 1>percent over the time from when they announced the bid

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<v Speaker 1>to the time when they decided to walk away. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>because the stock price fell eleven percent, and because their

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<v Speaker 1>bid was about an exchange of stock, the value of

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<v Speaker 1>the stock they were bidding fell, I mean, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as valuable as it used to be. This would be

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<v Speaker 1>as if I went up to you and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to buy your shoes for ten bucks, and

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you say, well, I'll think about it, and the next

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 1>day I come up to you with a ten dollar bill.

0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.400
<v Speaker 1>But in that time, the value of ten dollars has decreased,

0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.800
<v Speaker 1>meaning the buying power of that ten dollars is less.

0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.879
<v Speaker 1>It's similar, except now we're talking about actual stock, not

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<v Speaker 1>the value of currency. But the point being that what

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<v Speaker 1>used to be worth fifty four billion dollars was now

0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.840
<v Speaker 1>worth even less than that, so that made it a

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<v Speaker 1>much less attractive deal for the Disney board of directors. Meanwhile,

0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the board of the Board of Directors are also getting

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.119
<v Speaker 1>the message from their shareholders, we don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>sell this company to Comcast. And since both parties were

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.840
<v Speaker 1>receiving this kind of resistance, Comcast announced it would drop

0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the bid just a few months after it had first

0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:57.520
<v Speaker 1>announced its intention, and uh and Roberts had said he

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<v Speaker 1>was very disappointed in the Disney Board of Directors for

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<v Speaker 1>not coming in and communicating with him. He thought that

0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.159
<v Speaker 1>it was the best deal for both companies. Meanwhile, the

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Board of Directors didn't UH didn't really dignify that particular

0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.960
<v Speaker 1>aunt h statement with a response. Also in two thousand four,

0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Comcast purchased a little company called tech TV, and who boy,

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 1>is this a heck of a story. So Comcast carried

0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.679
<v Speaker 1>a company a channel called G four which catered to

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.480
<v Speaker 1>video game fans. It was mostly content related to video

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 1>games in some way, including things like review shows, shows

0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that just did clips of video games, uh, game shows

0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.680
<v Speaker 1>that were video game related, lots of stuff like that.

0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Tech TV, on the other hand, was a more general

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<v Speaker 1>technology based channel where they had everything from product reviews

0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to h question and answer like people could call in

0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and ask experts how to do certain things with their computers,

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.240
<v Speaker 1>like how to install motherboards, that kind of stuff like

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 1>actual technical help um as well as shows that were

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 1>things like like they had their own video game review shows.

0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So there were there were competing shows on the two channels.

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.639
<v Speaker 1>So Comcast purchases tech TV in two thousand four and

0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.680
<v Speaker 1>then merges it with G four, creating the G four

0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:30.440
<v Speaker 1>tech TV channel, and then kind of letting the two

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.240
<v Speaker 1>slates of of programming battle it out to see which

0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.879
<v Speaker 1>ones would remain and which ones they would get rid of.

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.800
<v Speaker 1>And I've got a lot of friends who worked either

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 1>for G four or tech TV, and I hope to

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<v Speaker 1>do an episode in the future. I've already recorded some

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>interviews about this. Actually, I hope to do an episode

0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in the future about tech TV and G four and

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the merging of the two, and to include interview segments

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that I have gathered over time. So that's something I

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.359
<v Speaker 1>want to do in the future, and it will definitely

0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 1>be a long episode, probably a multi partner because it

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 1>was so complicated. It was a venture that people when

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.920
<v Speaker 1>when these channels first started, they were really excited about

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>them because this was Uh, these were industries that were

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>all getting more and more important over time. People were

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.200
<v Speaker 1>getting more interested in technology and computers and video games.

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 1>But when you get these big corporations like Comcast involved,

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 1>sometimes the ideas that people had when they first founded

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the channel end up getting changed or lost or or discarded,

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it creates a very emotional kind of story.

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<v Speaker 1>So keep in tune with tech stuff. Let me know

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 1>if that sounds interesting to you, because I do hope

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to do it in the future. I still have to

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.919
<v Speaker 1>do several more interviews in order to get kind of

0:21:52.960 --> 0:22:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a full story of it moving on with Comcast. By

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the way, G four tech TV doesn't exist anymore. In

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.119
<v Speaker 1>case you were wondering if if you weren't aware, G

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 1>four tech TV eventually went away and I believe became

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the Spike Network. If I'm not mistaken, or it's no,

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Esquire, I'm sorry, it's the Square Network. I believe

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>um Esquire would eventually take over for G four tech TV,

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and so that channel no longer exists, and uh, a

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of good people worked for that channel over time. Anyway,

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 1>two thousand five, Comcast joins a group of investors, which

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 1>included Sony Corporation of America, to purchase a twenty steak

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in Metro Goldwyn Meyer better known as MGM Studios, so

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment studios that produced lots of movies, including the

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>James Bond franchise. It turned out to be a pretty

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 1>tough investment, so five years later, in two thousand ten,

0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:01.240
<v Speaker 1>MGM would file for Chapter eleven bankruptcy and they would

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>emerge from bankruptcy after a little more than a month

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 1>after entering bankruptcy with the creditors MGMs creditors taking control

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of the company. So that was a pretty rough time.

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was an investment, it was a gamble,

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately for the investors, the market for DVDs was

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 1>really falling out by that point, and that ended up

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>taking a big hit. MGM took a big hit from that.

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>That same year two five, that is, Comcast unveiled at

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>digital phone service and plans to purchase internet businesses, further

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>getting involved in both the delivery and production of cable

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>content both on TV and on the Internet. So if

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 1>you have ever looked at Comcast ex Affinity, which is

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the brand for their digital service to homes, you often

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>will see that it can be bundled where you get

0:23:53.520 --> 0:24:00.160
<v Speaker 1>phone service, cable television, and internet broadband all bundled together. That's,

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you know it calculated approach that Comcasts made back in

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>this time. In two thousand and seven, that's when Comcast

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>actually acquired Fandango, the movie ticket service, the one that

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of precipitated this whole discussion about Comcast in the

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>first place, because if you recall from episode one of

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>this series, I mentioned that I started looking into this

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>after I had problems buying Star Wars tickets because the

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Fandango service had been overwhelmed by demand and it pretty

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>much collapsed. By the way, in case you were worried,

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I did eventually get Star Wars tickets for opening night.

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I just had to wait till the next morning. It's

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>just I am not a good Jedi. I don't have patience.

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>So it was a tough, tough twenty four hours or

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 1>so at any rate. Comcast purchased Fandango back in two

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven, and uh, Fandango is one of those

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>services that I personally find a little frustrating. I much

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 1>prefer when movie theaters have their own, uh theater specific

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>services to to sell tickets to customers, because you don't

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>have to worry if there's a huge amount of demand

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>for the overall film, typically speaking, because it's distributed amongst

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>all those theaters. It's when you have a centralized service

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>where all that demand is going to a single collection

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of servers where you start running into these problems. And

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>granted the Star Wars issue was a special case, it's

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>not like that's going to happen with every movie. For example,

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 1>Jim and the Holograms. Don't think that one's going to

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>collapse the system, even though it's truly outrageous, truly truly

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>truly outrageous. So two thousand seven Fendango acquisition happens, um

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I could go on about the case will service companies

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that Comcast acquired over the next few years, but by

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>now you guys are all familiar with that story. It's

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the same story over and over. It's just the names

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and the prices change from case to case. In an

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>effort to grow the company and increase the number of customers,

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Comcast kept acquiring other businesses, including ones like Patriot Media,

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Susquehanna Communications, and others. UH, and Comcast and Time Warner

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>together would split up the assets of another company called

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Adelphia Communications. Adelphia had gone bankrupt and so as part

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>of the UH, in order to settle the debt that

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Adelphia had acquired, they started selling off assets, and Comcast

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and Time Warner we're both allowed to buy up some

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of those, which not great news necessarily if you want

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>more competition UH. Since these were the two big players

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>in the United States at that same time, Comcast continued

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to launch channels fear Net and Exercise TV, and so

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>they were controlling the distribution and content in an effort

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 1>to set itself apart from competing cable and satellite services. Also,

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the Walt Disney Company, while it was not open to

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>a hostile takeover bid, it did sell off its thirty

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>nine share in the E Networks to Comcast, so Comcast

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>was able to pick up a significant share in those

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>those uh, those companies, those those networks, they didn't have

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>controlling interest. But is nothing this sneeze at now. That

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even cover the continued interest in wireless broadband. Comcast

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>was one of the companies that invested in clear Wire Corporation,

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>for example, so Comcast was still very much interested in

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>expanding in that industry as well. And the next really big,

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>big piece of news dates to two thousand nine, and

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that's when it was announced that g E had agreed

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to sell controlling eight in NBC Universal to Comcast. Now,

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the approval for this deal would take quite some time.

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Congress scrutinized this deal and it wasn't until two thousand

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:17.479
<v Speaker 1>eleven that Congress approved the deal, and the acquisition itself

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be complete until two thousand thirteen. So from two

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>thousand nine to two thousand thirteen this deal was taking place.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>That's how big a deal we're talking about here. And

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the approval from Congress was actually conditional. It wasn't yeah,

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and you can buy them. And they actually

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>had some some specific conditions that the companies had to

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>adhere to. Comcast had to make assurances that it wouldn't

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>prevent NBC programming from airing on competing broadcast services. They

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>couldn't just say, well, now anything that's on NBC can

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>only air on Comcast, or it can air on other stations,

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>but only if you pay an outrageous premium for the broadcast.

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>That was part of the agreement that Comcast would not

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>make those kind of moves. Um. It also sparked another

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>round of discussions about net neutrality, making certain delivery services

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>aren't so wrapped up in programming that they began to

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>tinker with accessibility. And uh, this is still a big

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>deal today. I mean, this is a giant thing about

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>about these distribution companies getting involved in content on this level,

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and as they own more and more of it, there's

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>a greater concern that they will cause real issues for

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>customers that hurts the customer in the long run. It's

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a great business decision, you know, from the business side,

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't argue it because it's gonna make tons of

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>money for shareholders, But as a customer, as the person

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>who comes home and wants to watch television, it's a

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>negative experience, or it can be. It can certainly lead

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to one. So that's why these conditions were built in

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>to the agreement. And then in two thousand and fourteen,

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>skipping ahead to that, Comcast made a move to acquire

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>its competitor, Time Warner Cable and this is when the

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Internet totally lost its mind. For very good reason. This action,

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>more than any other, brought that net neutrality argument into

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight. Comcast was essentially saying that they wanted to

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.719
<v Speaker 1>buy its chief competitor, which would drastically reduce options for

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>customers in numerous markets, which Comcast actually argued was a

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>benefit to the customer if you can believe it. Now,

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind again, and most markets, customers don't have

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that much choice. They might have a choice of one

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>cable provider and maybe one or two satellite providers, which

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>is getting fewer and fewer anyway because of other acquisitions

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and consolidations. But that's it. They don't necessarily, you know,

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's rare when you're in an area where

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, I can get either Time Warner or

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I can get Comcast. It may be that you have

0:30:54.720 --> 0:31:00.479
<v Speaker 1>either Comcast or a mobile wireless provider or satellite, and

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that's it. You don't have options between cable companies, in

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>other words, and that is problematic. And Comcast was arguing

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that by buying Time Warner it would actually be an

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>improvement to customers by streamlining everything. But when asked about it,

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>when when people said, well, does this mean that, since

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>there be no competition, you could lower the customer bill,

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>they said no, not necessarily, so, in other words, customers

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>would not see any benefit from this. The the benefits

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of competition are that companies will start to offer better

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>prices and better options for customers in an effort to

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>win more customers. But when you don't have competition, there's

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>no reason to do that. In fact, you want to

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>have higher prices because you can't go anywhere else for

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>those services. That's the reason why monopolies are frowned upon

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and and normally either prevented or broken up. Although, as

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>we talked about in our A T and T podcast,

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>even the efforts to break up monopolies don't last forever.

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Often these companies will coalesce back together kind of like

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a planet getting broken up into space,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and then the gravity's crushes all the pieces back together,

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>so you have a planet again. It's almost the same thing. Uh. Anyway,

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get off on a total rant there,

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but if you listen to episodes about A T and

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>T about net neutrality, those sort of discussions go into

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>greater detail about this sort of stuff. Anyway. Uh, there

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>are only a few markets that really allow you to

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>have some choice in the United States, and that's a

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>real problem. And people opposed to the Time Warner deal

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>argued that if it went through, there'd be a true

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>monopoly in cable service in the United States. It would

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 1>belong to Comcast. Now, there were also numerous examples of

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>regions that were passing laws restricting public broadband initiatives. In

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>other words, lobbyists for the cable industry we're working with

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>politicians to make it difficult or even illegal for a

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>government to offer broadband service as a utility. And there

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>are certain areas in the United States where this was

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, specifically in places like Chattanooga. If Joe

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>McCormick was in here, he's from Chattanooga, he could tell

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you about the crazy fast Internet service that people in

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Chattanooga can get through municipal WiFi, and cable companies really

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>battle against that. They say it's unfair, which blows my mind,

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>but that would be an entirely different episode for me

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to go into all of those details. At any rate,

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>municipal broadband service became a battleground which continues to this day.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>The Federal Communications Commission has ruled that states are allowed

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to offer up broadband services, but cable interests are still

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>fighting that decision and appealing it and arguing that the

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>FCC doesn't really have the authority to make that statement

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>in the first place, just as they resist other competitors

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>like Google Fiber entering their turf. So what cable companies

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>have done is they've divided up the United States into

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>into neighborhoods that they can effectively control because they're the

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>only party in town, and then they do their best

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to keep everybody else out. And again, this makes perfect

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>sense from a business perspective. You don't want competition to

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:29.879
<v Speaker 1>come in and shake things up. But for customers it's

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>not such a great story. So it gets pretty ugly

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people, especially on my side of this,

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of harsh things to say, and I

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>will again, try to avoid editorializing anymore than I already have. Uh,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's entirely possible that I have blinders on here.

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not like I think that the other companies are

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>necessarily altruistic, but I always like to see more competition

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>rather than less. Anyway, back to Time Warner, That's what

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>started this whole digression in the first place was the

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>proposal for Comcast to acquire Time Warner. The deal would

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>involve around forty five billion dollars in stock, and Congress

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>began to scrutinize the deal and a lot of advocacy

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>groups were calling for the deal to just be outright rejected.

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Comcast agreed to divest itself of nearly four million subscribers,

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>essentially handing them over to Charter Communications, and this was

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a sign of good faith, saying Comcast

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>had no plan on taking over the entire industry. Charter

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Communications would still be there and they had three point

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>nine million more subscribers than they had before because Comcast

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 1>was giving them up. So see, there's competition. There's still

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Charter Communications. It's not like by buying Time Warner all

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>cable would be Comcast for now, never mind the fact

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that once again there's not true competition in most markets anyway,

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>While the deal was being considered, a T and T

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>also announced its plans to acquire Direct TV for forty

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>nine billion dollars, which added fuel to the fire of

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>people worried about net neutrality and about media consolidation. There

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>were tons of people now looking at these two major

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>deals saying, we really need to think about this because

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>if we go down this pathway, customers could be really

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.959
<v Speaker 1>hurt by the lack of choice Further down the road.

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>In April two fifteen, Comcast and Time Warner announced that

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>they were dropping the deal after numerous challenges and delays

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>were brought up against it, and it was also rumored

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that the Department of Justice in the United States was

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>leaning towards denying the deal in the first place, so

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>walking away might have also been an attempt to make

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it seem as though the two companies had arrived at

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.919
<v Speaker 1>this decision themselves, rather than it being forced upon them

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>by another party. The ongoing and just for Comcast today

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>include the FCC wanting to reclassify broad band as a

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>title to utility, which Comcast and other cable companies are challenging.

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>And also this is really troubling for cable companies, especially

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>well specifically cable TV companies. There's a flagging interest in

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>cable television. This is not a big surprise for most

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>of my listeners. I'm sure I bet there are a

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of you out there who are cable chord cutters.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, you've you've cut the chord for cable TV,

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and you get your entertainment through the Internet, but not

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>through television. You might feed the Internet to your TV,

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>but you're not getting it through cable TV. I'm sure

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of you out there who are

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>doing that right now. And I bet there's some of

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you out there who are fall into the category that

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>is now being called cord never's. Cord never's are people

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>who have never subscribed to cable television. So we're talking

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>about young adults who have never taken it upon themselves

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to get cable TV. They're not interested. It's not how

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>they consume entertainment. They get everything they want through the

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Internet or through over the air broadcast, but they've never

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>seen the value of subscribing to a cable television service.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>We're seeing both of those populations grow over time. Now

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that means that cable television providers are experiencing a crunch.

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>They're losing customers who are cutting the cord, and they're

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>not gaining new customers fast enough because more and more

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 1>people are choosing not to ever subscribe to cable TV

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. So you're getting a narrowing band

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of customers for cable television, which is really created an

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>error of desperation in that industry. And it means that

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you're getting some some pretty hard moves in that that industry,

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>And it could ultimately mean that in the future, our

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 1>television content will primarily come through the Internet, and cable

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 1>TV as a thing will no longer exist. The industry

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>itself will cease, and we'll have a totally different model

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>for delivering television and creating television. That's a possibility, it's

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>still going to take some time for that to happen.

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like cable tv is in so

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>much trouble that it could crumble at any second. It's

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>still a huge, multibillion dollar industry. It's just a multibillion

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>dollar industry that already is seeing loss of customers on

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>either side of it people leaving and new people not

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 1>coming in, so it'll be really interesting to see where

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that goes over the next I'd say decade decade um.

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna see more and more people turn

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to the Internet. We're gonna see more services like Netflix, Hulu,

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Amazon offering up their own original content that you can

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>only get through those services. I know that Disney is

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>looking at the possibility of launching its own streaming services

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>as well, So it may be that in the future,

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>instead of subscribing to a cable company and then picking

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a package that gives you certain channels, you may have

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>to pick between different streaming video services. In fact, you

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>already do for certain things, like you might not be

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>an Amazon Prime member, which means you don't get certain

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Amazon shows, or you might not be a Netflix subscriber,

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>which means you don't get certain Netflix shows or Hulu.

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>All of these have original content and in order to

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>access it, you have to subscribe to the to the services,

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, So maybe in the future we have more

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and more of those, which puts the burden still on

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the customer. You have to decide what you're willing to

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>pay for and what you don't you feel is not

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 1>worth the money. You just you just don't see it,

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's bad news for cable TV providers. Comcasts, however,

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>of course, is in the position where it's not a

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>cable TV provider, it's a content provider and its Internet

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>broadband provider, so it has some other businesses that it

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>wants to protect, and it may be that in the

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>next few years we see Comcast double down on Internet

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>content and broadband delivery. We'll probably also see Comcast continue

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to fight competition in those spaces, specifically things like the

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>entrance of Google Fiber into different regions. So that's what

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to see in the future for Comcast.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be more of a focus on broadband UM

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and and Internet content, and we'll price see some pretty

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>tough battles for municipal WiFi, for municipal broadband, for um

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff like Google Fiber to be allowed to come into

0:41:53.480 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods and personally encouraged by the direction I've seen over

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the last year or two where it looks like the

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>general consensus is that competition is a good thing. I

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>don't even hate Comcast specifically, I I I have very

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 1>strong opinions because of my own personal experience with this company.

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>But that's my own personal experience and it's not a

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>universal experience, and I would never suggest that my experience

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 1>is the same that everyone else has had. But I

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>love to see competition because it means that customers have choice,

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and I would much prefer to have choice than to

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 1>be forced into using a specific provider because there is

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>no other option, because that means that I can't weigh

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>my options and make a decision. I have no deciding power.

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Um By creating that sort of competition, I can make

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>those decisions. And maybe I stay with Comcast. Maybe I

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>decided that's the best way for UH for me to

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>get the access I need, or maybe I switched to

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a competitor like Google Fiber, which is rolling out service

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta as I record this UM, and it will

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>probably take another couple of years before that's complete. But

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact is that I think the more choice you have,

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the better better off you are as a consumer. Up

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to a point. Obviously, if you have five hundred choices,

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 1>then you have another problem ahead of you, which is

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<v Speaker 1>how do you decide among five hundred candidates which one

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<v Speaker 1>is the best. But for something like cable where you

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<v Speaker 1>may have one or two options, it makes it a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier, especially if you have to. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have one, there's no decision to make, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to, you can at least weigh them against each

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<v Speaker 1>other and make an informed decision that way. And I

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<v Speaker 1>personally am looking forward to a world where we do

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<v Speaker 1>have that kind of choice and aren't forced into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious what you guys think. Do you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, do you live in a place where

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<v Speaker 1>you have lots of options? Because there are a few.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some regions that do have options when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to cable providers. I just don't happen to live

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<v Speaker 1>in one of them. Or are you frustrated by this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something that you feel has gone unaddressed too long,

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<v Speaker 1>or is it totally cool? I'm curious to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts are. Right to me let me know. And

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<v Speaker 1>also if you have suggestions for future topics of future episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe someone I should interview or someone I should

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<v Speaker 1>have on as a guest host, right to me let

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<v Speaker 1>me know your thoughts. The email address is text stuff

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<v Speaker 1>at how stuff works dot com, or you can drop

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<v Speaker 1>Three of those use the handle text stuff h SW.

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<v Speaker 1>That message will get to me, and I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you again. Really. See for more on this and thousands

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