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Speaker 1: M m all right, Welcome to the State of the

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Speaker 1: Lakers Thanksgiving Day Special. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope you're

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Speaker 1: I hope you got to work out in this morning

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Speaker 1: so you don't feel too guilty about all the food

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Speaker 1: you're about to eat. UM. I hope everybody gets to

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Speaker 1: rest up and spend some time with their family. UM.

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Speaker 1: I Roger and I are doing his spaces because obviously

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Speaker 1: I missed the game last night. I had my first

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Speaker 1: game as a high school coach, which was a ton

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Speaker 1: of fun, roller coaster ride of emotions, very different from

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Speaker 1: anything that I've ever experienced in the game of basketball

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Speaker 1: because you're so emotionally invested in the outcome, but there's

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Speaker 1: really really nothing you can do. Uh, you know of

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Speaker 1: an offer, slighted vice here and there, and a little

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Speaker 1: bit of game planning, but the truth of the matter

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Speaker 1: is is it's kind of out of your control. So

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Speaker 1: it's a totally different type of experience. But also just

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Speaker 1: every bit is satisfying from a competitive standpoint getting a win,

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Speaker 1: as it is when you're a player. UM. So that

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. But that said, I got

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Speaker 1: to enjoy the game this morning. Uh, take my time

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Speaker 1: with it. Pause and rewind and rewatch stuff and get

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Speaker 1: a really good feel, um, you know, for the flow

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Speaker 1: of that game and a really really interesting game. The

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Speaker 1: lack of Anthony Davis forced Frank to go to some

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Speaker 1: lineups that you know, he never in a million years

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Speaker 1: his eyes on some some modern basketball. And I thought

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Speaker 1: it was I thought it was really interesting. But first

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Speaker 1: of all, before we get too much further in ROZs,

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you, man. I hope you're doing really well.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you holding it down for me last

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Speaker 1: night while I was indisposed, and and I'm really excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get to the bottom of this

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Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, I mean too, man. This is this

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Speaker 1: is a strange and happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

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Speaker 1: And everyone in here M surprised as many people on

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Speaker 1: a on a Thanksgiving morning. Uh yeah, it's a little

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Speaker 1: weird doing it the next day, right, because I'm so

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Speaker 1: used to just you know, jotting all this stuff down

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Speaker 1: and then trying to formulate thoughts that makes sense right

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Speaker 1: after where you're still kind of emotionally invested in the game,

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Speaker 1: and this is hours later and now I've been able

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Speaker 1: to sit with it. Your thoughts kind of changed a

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Speaker 1: little bit in terms of like how you see the game,

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask your thoughts. So what was

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Speaker 1: your your big takeaway from it? We didn't get to

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Speaker 1: hear you. You popped in while driving, but you had

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Speaker 1: you had not seen a minute of the game yet.

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Speaker 1: You said your game went to overtime too, right last night?

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Speaker 1: Your your high school game. Kind of twice you guys

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Speaker 1: went double overtime. The Lakers went into overtime. It was

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Speaker 1: just an overtime type of night. What was your what

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Speaker 1: was your was your takeaways from from that game? So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought I thought the Lebron at the

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Speaker 1: center stuff was the most interesting part of the game,

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Speaker 1: mainly for a couple of reasons. One not only what

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Speaker 1: it brought out of them offensively, but also, uh, they

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Speaker 1: leaned heavily into switching with that lineup. They did a

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Speaker 1: handful of different they were handful of coverages were like,

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Speaker 1: uh they What I liked about it is they didn't

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Speaker 1: on any real screening action, like a screening action that

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Speaker 1: Um and then obviously an OT you swap out th

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Speaker 1: thought was Lebron, th HT, Russ and Mellow all have

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Speaker 1: And so what's that What that means is as long

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of like you know, Carris Lavert

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Speaker 1: especially the stars, and so it was, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of rim pressure. Um th h

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Speaker 1: swung it out the corner to Ellington for three that

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Speaker 1: obviously Russ and Lebron just driving the basket and and

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Speaker 1: just making easy kickouts to great shooters. It was good process.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a flukey that wasn't a flukey offensive performance

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Speaker 1: that a lot of that was replicable and something that

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Speaker 1: they can apply moving forward. And it's a shift we're seeing, right.

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Speaker 1: It's uh. Last night, I think I talked a lot

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Speaker 1: thought last night we saw a really good shift. Like

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Speaker 1: Lebron at the five is probably something that he doesn't

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Speaker 1: really like to go to. I said yesterday too. He's

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Speaker 1: athletic dudes um at the rim, Like that's his base

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Speaker 1: because you have to play that base coverage. But last night,

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Speaker 1: So it's nice to be able to go back and

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Speaker 1: look at look at lineup data, so that that lineup

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Speaker 1: And I only bring up those numbers because I think

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Speaker 1: And I saw that last night. Monk and Ellington are

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Speaker 1: never gonna be great as switching, like you talked about it,

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Speaker 1: but there's they have, Like Monk has a speed to

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Speaker 1: him that I think you can use. Right. He was

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Speaker 1: like last night, and you talked about effort as well.

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Speaker 1: I saw him put it in, uh Lebron as Lebron,

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Speaker 1: I thought at the five, his effort was so different

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Speaker 1: I thought when Lebron went to center. He definitely picked

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Speaker 1: what do you think about that kind of that kind

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Speaker 1: And maybe I said this too, there's just some negative

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Speaker 1: and it's so against how he wants to play. And

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Speaker 1: you posted that that that video today of like they

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's the kind of pace they need to

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Speaker 1: against so much of it. But what do you think

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Speaker 1: about that about Lebron's effort kind of going up when

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Speaker 1: rather than when he's playing at the floor. I don't

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Speaker 1: This is something that I've been critical of him with,

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Speaker 1: stopping physically with his frame, and so at the center position,

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Speaker 1: it kind of offloads a bunch of it. It off

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Speaker 1: floads a bunch of the movement responsibilities to his brain

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Speaker 1: And then obviously exactly and he can make up for

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Speaker 1: some of his unwillingness to be mobile on the perimeter,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the dregs of the regular season, by

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Speaker 1: transferring that into can you communicate, tell guy, tell other

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Speaker 1: plays with your brain um and then lastly with his hands.

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Speaker 1: There's a handful of plays in the in the fourth

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Speaker 1: to jump, just by reading a play, seeing it coming

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Speaker 1: in advance, knowing what the big guy is gonna do

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Speaker 1: things along those lines. That's his defensive job as a

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Speaker 1: back line guy is easier for him to do in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, in particular because it's not as physically demanding,

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Speaker 1: and little things like boxing out. Lebron likes that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff well, but every single time that shot went up.

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Speaker 1: He was he was textbook box out low squatting, pushing

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Speaker 1: I think that's the big reason why the the Lebron

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Speaker 1: really excel in the foot speed areas of defense, which

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Speaker 1: are transition and then in rotation when you're covering for

433
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 1: each other and the and it's really really interesting to

434
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: see that line up defend and defend well because all

435
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: it is is mobility. It's a ship ton of mobility

436
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: and guys not getting beat down the floor and transition

437
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: and guys being able to cover a lot of ground

438
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: in rotation to cover for each other, and obviously you're

439
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: not going to do that full time. And Anthony Davis

440
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: brings so much good to the table that he still

441
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: is the best option at center for the Lakers, as

442
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: you should be. But that's a great example of why

443
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: Lebron at center is such an interesting wrinkle slash curveball

444
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: that the Lakers should go too more often. Yeah, and

445
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: I say he's like a Swiss army knife, but that's

446
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: probably that's probably underrating that the Swiss arm knife with

447
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: all the separate specialties of every knife or whatever. But yeah,

448
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: him defensively man like at the center. I just like

449
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: that look. It gives us some speed when I think

450
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: like Volos trying to make us a slowdown type of defense,

451
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,479
Speaker 1: and I just don't think that's what this team is.

452
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: In the video you posted, I think is perfect with that.

453
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Speaker 1: Just guys flying around at that THHD a big part

454
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: of it as well, and it's cool to see Lebron,

455
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, have one of those performances. I thought last

456
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Speaker 1: night was probably one of the first of the season

457
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: where it was just he looked like one of the

458
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: He looked like the best player in the world. And

459
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: he saw him hunt the bonus as well. On those

460
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: switches you talked about, teams will probably want to switch that,

461
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: and he he put up Carmelo's man and gets a

462
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: bonus on him. Took a bunch of step back threes

463
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: that went in, got to the basket a few times.

464
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: Just good process stuff, stuff that he's starting to get

465
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: more comfortable with this team. Russ trying to get more

466
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: comfortable with this team. I hope hopefully, like we said

467
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Speaker 1: after Detroit win, hopefully that was something to build off of.

468
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna go on to

469
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Speaker 1: go and say that about this one yet, but it's

470
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Speaker 1: it can be. I thought that was a good win

471
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Speaker 1: last night without a d our pick three has only

472
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: played eight games together, which is which just sounds so

473
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Speaker 1: weird when you say it out loud. Uh. And this

474
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: is game twenty. There's stuff to really build off of

475
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: from from this win? Uh? And did you have anything

476
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: else from last night's win? Last night's wine over? Yeah?

477
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Speaker 1: Too too quick notes. I wanted to talk about Lebron

478
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to talk about th HD in

479
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: his process tonight, because I about th HD had better

480
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: process tonight, even though he didn't necessarily shoot the ball

481
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: really well. So, first of all, with Lebron, you know

482
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: what's interesting is it's uh the way he's aged the

483
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: the addition of high end shot making has allowed him

484
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: to continue his impact in a lot of different ways.

485
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: Because it's funnycause we always get into debates with people

486
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: about the best version of Lebron right Like, we argue,

487
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: we argue, you know, it was the two thousand thirteen

488
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: Lebron the best. Here's two thousand eight team Lebron the best.

489
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Speaker 1: And you know, I've always favored the older version of players,

490
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: like I think Steph right now is better than he

491
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: was in two thousand and sixteen, because I do think

492
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Speaker 1: that your i Q can be your greatest weapon as

493
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Speaker 1: a basketball player. You know, it's funny, Like I when

494
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: I was, when I was twenty one, I had a

495
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: I could put my elbows above them, I could, I

496
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: was way faster. I you know, I had this you know,

497
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: this quick which like lightning speed and all that stuff.

498
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: But I was not even a tiny afection of as

499
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: good of a basketball player as I am now, not

500
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: even because of this the skill stuff, but just because

501
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: of my understanding of of when to be aggressive when

502
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: not to, you know, understanding pivotal moments of the game,

503
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: how key, how important this rebound is, how important this

504
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: extra possessions Like okay, on this particular possession, we get

505
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: a basket, this team might fold mentally. So this is

506
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: the one where I really have to make sure we

507
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: get a good shot. Like that kind of stuff is

508
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: the stuff that you get when you're later in your career,

509
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: and that with Lebron is better than ever. His understanding

510
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: of when to put his imprint on a game is

511
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: at an all time high. And when you couple that

512
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Speaker 1: with his improved shot making, his ability, his ability to

513
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: knock down those fadeaways, his ability to knock down those

514
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: off the dribble threes, he has turned himself into a hell,

515
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: like a hell of a different version of himself, you

516
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And the same thing goes to

517
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: pensibly you think of, you know, late Calves Lebron, you

518
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: know first Stint Caves Lebron and Miami Lebron is like

519
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: this unbelievable down the floor athlete who's eracing shots around

520
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: the rim as a as a jumper, and now he's

521
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: blowing up plays around the rim under the rim as

522
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: more of a Draymond style verticality not guys off balance

523
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: and stripped them below the basket type of defender. And

524
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to see that evolution. And you know,

525
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: and then here's the reality. He he didn't have a

526
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: great game from an athleticism standpoint last night. There were

527
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: several plays that he usually dunks where he didn't. There

528
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: was one where he went up for a dunk and

529
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: the bounce wasn't there and he had to divert to

530
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: a finger roll right at the end. There was a

531
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Speaker 1: play at the end of the fourth quarter where he

532
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: made a left handed layup in transition where you know,

533
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: before his abdominal injury, he's probably still hanging on the rim.

534
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: The point being is he's going to continue to get

535
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Speaker 1: his legs underneath him. And I still think he has

536
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: a season left of that a all of that package

537
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: put together, including some of that nuclear athleticism that makes

538
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: him so good. But the exciting part, the reason why

539
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: I brought it up, is that shot making and that

540
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: i Q piece and that strength piece and that back

541
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: line defense piece really opens the door to a late

542
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: prime for Lebron when he's thirty eight thirty nine, where

543
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: he can become your second best player, where he can

544
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: become your third best player and still be a serious

545
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: impact on winning. And that should excite Laker fans because

546
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of worry about this window, right and

547
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: how long it's gonna last. But the reality is is

548
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: if Lebron is this good of a shooter and he's

549
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: this smart, and he's this capable of a blow the

550
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: rim defender, then he's going to be really good when

551
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight and thirty nine, And that's exciting and

552
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: it extends the window. Yeah, and uh, I think his

553
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: jumper looks great to start this season, shooting like shooting

554
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: like thirty of them percent from three. But it just

555
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: just looks good. He looks comfortable. Uh, he's shooting when

556
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: teams go under um and they need his jump shot

557
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: the way that we're playing right now, with the spacing

558
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: that we have. But you're right, he looks great. I

559
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: don't know if you will. You'll do this every night defensively.

560
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: The team needs it. And I keep saying it's probably

561
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: unfair to have to rely on him this much. Defensively

562
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: in your nineteen. But if we can put them are

563
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: at center, if that's a little bit less taxing on

564
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: his body, just being that final room protector instead of

565
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: flying all around where he has to rotate a million times,

566
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean we can go to that because I think

567
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: having just one center on the on the team, like

568
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: having DeAndre Jordan as your own as and DeAndre Jordan

569
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard as your only centers and only one of

570
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: them as serviceable, like I would love to go more

571
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: to this Braun at the five lineups and and he

572
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: took over last night like that's that's what what last

573
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: night was like. In that fourth quarter, late game offense

574
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: has pretty much just been him with the ball. I

575
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: think when we talked about over the summer, we thought

576
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: it would be like a shared kind of thing between

577
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: Russ and Lebron, and it really hasn't. Um right, It's

578
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: pretty much just been Lebron with the basketball and him

579
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: deciding where to go. Russ is in the dunker spot

580
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: or spaced out. It's been Lebron taking over any of

581
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: the close games we had. And again he's only played

582
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: in nine games this year, but we've kind of seen

583
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: what the what like last night looked like what we

584
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: would do in the playoffs. Right, of course a D

585
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: wasn't there, but it's that's what my picture was for

586
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: this for last night. And the theme for me last

587
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: night was there's a good team in here somewhere, right,

588
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: there's a good team in here somewhere, whether you know

589
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: this coach finds it, the next coach front whatever, there's

590
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: a good team in here somewhere. And I thought last

591
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: night was a picture of playoff kind of playoff basketball.

592
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: What we would do be Lebron at the top, have

593
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: have incredible shooters that we can use as screeners. A

594
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: D obviously would be on the floor as well. Just

595
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: that that was my theme for last night. Would you

596
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: agree with as like, there's a good team somewhere in here?

597
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: And uh, I think I hope we can find it

598
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: pretty soon. There's a great team in here somewhere with

599
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: you there. I mean, you know this is obviously we

600
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: haven't had enough data to really go on here. But

601
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, you know a lot

602
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: of these losses have been with a team that doesn't

603
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: remotely resemble what we're going to be depending on when

604
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: things matter and so it's hard. You gotta you gotta always,

605
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, compartmentalize that you can still get frustrated with

606
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: the identity, right like it sucks when you know you

607
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: lose in a game that you have less talent than

608
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: you expect, but your process also sucks, Like of course

609
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: you can be upset about that. And this team has

610
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: been frankly not fun to watch, and and there's a

611
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: lot of people who were saying that last night agree.

612
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: And it's been something that I've complained about all year,

613
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: and I hope they fix those things. But the reality

614
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: is is their six and three with Lebron uh five

615
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: and three when Lebron and a D both play. My

616
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: guess is that by the time we get to the

617
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: All Star Game, All Star Break with Lebron and a

618
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: D on the floor will be hovering right around that

619
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: sixty win pace. That's that's what I expect in the

620
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: games that Lebron and a D play, which is where

621
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: it's always been. Um, you know, this is just it's

622
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: just been frustrating because even within these games you're watching,

623
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, we're trailing by ten to Cleveland in

624
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: the third quarter before we finally turn it up and

625
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: make some stuff happen. We screw around with the Houston

626
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: Rockets the entire game before Lebron and everybody dials it

627
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: up and we get our process has been sitting, for

628
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, but the it's all in

629
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: there still somewhere that you just have to be careful

630
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: because if you don't establish those good habits, he may

631
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: not be able to flip that switch, you know, when

632
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: the time comes. But the last thing I wanted to say,

633
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: as far as t HD goes, I just I thought

634
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: his process was way better. Um, you know, he wasn't.

635
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: He missed a lot of layups, but there were layups

636
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: that he usually makes, and they were layups when he

637
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: had an advantage. So it wasn't like what he had

638
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: been doing in the previous three games where it was

639
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: a lot of like here's a boatload of bodies and

640
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm just flying into people, into the crowd with no

641
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: real opportunity to to generate anything good, and here's a turnover,

642
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: here's a bad miss shot. It was significantly better process

643
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: from th HD had a couple of tough jump shots

644
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: that he took, but they were both late clock. Um,

645
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: so I'm not terribly concerned with Um. You know, late clock,

646
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Speaker 1: I want pht to to try to make make anything happen.

647
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Speaker 1: But for the most part, I thought his shot quality

648
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: was better, and I I there the main stuff with

649
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: him is he got lost off ball a few times

650
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: on defense. That's the stuff he's got to continue to

651
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Speaker 1: work on. But th HD I still think makes sense

652
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Speaker 1: um as a guy who can be a core piece

653
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Speaker 1: of this rotation. Yeah, and I really like they used

654
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Speaker 1: him as a screener last night as well. It just

655
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Speaker 1: gives him a chance, especially with Lebron, to be a

656
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: ball handler going downhill instead of him just having to

657
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Speaker 1: get the ball at the top of the key. Like

658
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: I keep seeing, like every time he gets the ball,

659
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: it's this, it's this, like, oh, it's my turn now

660
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: to go um And last night again on the rewatch,

661
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: it looked a lot better, you write, his process looked

662
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: much better. He's still not shooting as much as I'd

663
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: like him to, like, I think he's being left open.

664
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: I think there's shots there for him. But yeah, again,

665
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: another guy that used as a screener. Where if they

666
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Speaker 1: traped Lebron on you have THHD now in a four

667
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: on five situation, with the ball handling he has and

668
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: the playmaking ability has. I think that's something we can

669
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Speaker 1: really go to. And I think going away from the zone, uh,

670
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: we really yeah, yeah, I'm really against it, and we

671
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: went away from that in the second half. On the

672
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: first half, we went to it a ton and th

673
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: ht Mileague Monk like those guys were just getting lost. Uh.

674
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: And the point of the zone, right, it is just

675
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: to stop the gibile penetration, the point of attack defense.

676
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: But we gave up so many corner threes. And I

677
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: thought THHD really fit into that. You talked about the

678
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: stronger issue, the stronger lineups that we have and teach

679
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: you fits into that right where he can switch. I

680
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: thought he did a nice job boxing outance the bonus.

681
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: You give him just a straight, straight scheme, a lot

682
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: of switching um, and I thought he played a lot

683
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: better the zone. He looked lost in that zone, and

684
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: it looked like they didn't know what they were running

685
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: A two three three two. It looked really confusing at times,

686
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought it looked I thought he was

687
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: much better man. He's he turned twenty one today, actually,

688
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: I think so. I'm not sure today yesterday, but today. Okay,

689
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: I have birthday t but but yeah, I thought he

690
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: looked a lot better and he's gonna be a big

691
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: part of this rotation. He's I thought he was great

692
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: defensively he was part of those lineups and over time

693
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, he's he's growing. We'll see you

694
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: going forward. He's still not putting up the numbers he

695
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: did when he came back the first three games back,

696
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: but he's getting more comfortable in his role and I

697
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: think he has to. He has to be an off

698
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: ball player on this team, right, He's not gonna get

699
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: the on ball uh possessions if he was on another team,

700
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: another bad team. He's going to be playing next to

701
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: us or Lebron. And I think you've seen him get

702
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: more and more comfortable. Uh, And yeah, that was a better,

703
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: better process game from him. Ye are all right, guys.

704
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. So we uh rodged it a

705
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Speaker 1: spaces last night. I'm going to combine the two of those.

706
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Speaker 1: For any of you who missed any part of those two,

707
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna combine the two of them and and put

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00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: pot out here probably in about an hour, um, so

709
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: you'll be able to listen to that. There we will both,

710
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: I believe. So I have a game tomorrow at seven

711
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: thirty pm, but it's high school games, so it should

712
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: be over in about an hour and a half. So

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00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss maybe the first quarter, but I'll be

714
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: able to watch the vast majority of tomorrow's game. So

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00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: we will for sure be doing a spaces tomorrow night. Um,

716
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. Uh, you know, I

717
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: know we We've said this several times, but I know

718
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: Rog and I are incredibly thankful for you guys and

719
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: for supporting us. Um. We continue to just be completely

720
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: blown away that as many of you guys do come

721
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: and support us and hang out with us after the game,

722
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: and it and it encourages us to you know, put

723
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: the work in and to continue to watch and try

724
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: to learn about this team and give our two cents.

725
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: And and you know, obviously I appreciate you as well,

726
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Raj for being alone for this ride. It's been a

727
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Ronningho came out.

728
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, I think he's giving to you

729
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: as well. Man. Appreciate you as well. Going on this

730
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: journey with me, and I feel like we're going something here,

731
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: and it's been cool to see the support every single game.

732
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: The support on the podcast has been just great and

733
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we're really really thankful for it. I

734
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thanks everyone. All right, everybody, enjoy the

735
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: rest of your day, and we will see you tomorrow night. Alright, guys.

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Speaker 1: Part two of the pot is going to be the

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Speaker 1: opening monologue that Roj had after the game last night.

738
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Speaker 1: Special thanks to rog for holding it down while I

739
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Speaker 1: was gone. I hope you guys enjoy it and we

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Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow night. Welcome to the State of

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00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: the Lakers podcast presented by DASH Radio. Jason is out tonight,

742
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: at least for now. He's on molding the minds of

743
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: younger basketball players coaching a high school basketball game. He'll

744
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: join us later, so I'll be solo for a little while.

745
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk too long. I don't want

746
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: to ramble, So I want to do this one where

747
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I get a bunch of you up here. I just

748
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: have a few things I want to get to and

749
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: then we'll move on. But man, I think we have

750
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: to start with Lebron closing this one. This season has

751
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: been annoying. It's been a roller coaster. It's been up

752
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: and down. It's been the Russell Westbrook experience has been

753
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: fitting Russell Westbrook. But none of that matters if Lebron

754
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: is not Lebron, Right, if Lebron is still not a

755
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: top five arguably the best player in the world. I

756
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: think those are all marginal kind of areas when you

757
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: get to Steph Lebron, Janice, whatever. But if he's in

758
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: that conversation, he needs to be for this team. And

759
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: that's that's probably the biggest thing that we have to

760
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: see here. And Lebron's missed a whole bunch of games.

761
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: It was good to see him be able to get

762
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: to this though, right, like, be able to channel this

763
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: even if it won't be in every game, even if quarters,

764
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: even if you'll take off quarters. I thought it was

765
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: just great to at least see that again. I think

766
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: it was thirty nine points that he finished with big

767
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: time three's. The late game offense was pretty much all

768
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: just him, right. I'm pretty surprised how in all pretty

769
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: much a late game it hasn't been this sharing with Russ.

770
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: It's been pretty much just Lebron basketball, which is mismatch hunt,

771
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: switch hunt attacks of Bonus. He really picked on him.

772
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: I thought, vogo it. I don't want to go deep

773
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: into Vogel. We did a lot of that on our podcast.

774
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: You can listen to the last few, but I do

775
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: see him adjusting. I think the Lebron at the five

776
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: thing is another thing that goes really against his ideas

777
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: and what he likes to do as a coach. Right.

778
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: Vogels is a very protect the rim with big athletic

779
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: or at least seemingly athletic, with the DeAndre Jordan's type

780
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: of players, where guards kind of fight over. He saw

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00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: him in that second half, man go to Lebron at

782
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Speaker 1: the five. I've been preaching this, to play Lebron with

783
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: shooters like Wayne Ellington, like malikue Monk, used them as screeners,

784
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Speaker 1: use their gravity, and that's switching. In the end, there

785
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: was a lot they mixed it up, right, But I

786
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: thought that defense was so much better. We held Indiana

787
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Speaker 1: to thirty six points in that second half until two

788
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: minutes left, where the Pacers really just went nuts. I

789
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: think I forgot who forgot who hit the three in

790
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: the corner and then Duarte hit that ridiculous three. Brogden

791
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: hit a few, but I thought the defense in the

792
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: second half was much better. Lebron's effort when he plays

793
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: the five seems to be much much better as well.

794
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: His commitment to when he plays the four next to DJ,

795
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: it's just ugly and defensively, they went to zones, and

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00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: I personally don't like the zone. I feel like players

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00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: don't commit to it as they would a man or

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Speaker 1: or a switching scheme, and I thought you saw that

799
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: in the second half, especially with all these small guards.

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00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: It's tough in a zone. You're basically predetermining where you're

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00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: gonna be, right Like, that's the whole point of a zone,

802
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: and a defense is already a reactionary position. So like,

803
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: if you're already predetermining where you're gonna be and in

804
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: a reaction in position, which is why his zone is

805
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: not something you can use as your base defense, right

806
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: It's why none of the thirty teams use it as

807
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: their base defense. It's a switch up that you can

808
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: go to once in a while. But I thought Lebron's

809
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: effort defensively in that second half was big time. He

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00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: was huge. He was in the defensive stands pretty much

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Speaker 1: the whole time, shutting off Brockden a lot of times

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00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: when he got him on a switch. I talked about

813
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: this team needs his commitment on defense, and it's not

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00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: fair for him. You're nine ten, it's probably not fair

815
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Speaker 1: for him to, you know, have the offensive load as

816
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: well that he has, but still on defense, this team

817
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: needs him to be committed, especially playing the center, and

818
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: I feel like he feels that when he's the five

819
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: um as well. So I wanted to start with that.

820
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Just a huge Lebron game. I'm not gonna say this

821
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: is a turning point game because it's I said that

822
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: after the Detroit game and that's not what happened at all.

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Speaker 1: Today was another super slow start. I don't know, maybe

824
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Speaker 1: it is just the starters have something where there's just

825
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: there's no juice, there's no energy. Something about that starting lineup,

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Speaker 1: and you know every Bradley and Johndrey Jordan gets scapegoating

827
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: into it, but something about it just reflects some negative

828
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: energy on the team. Where we walk the ball up.

829
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, Russ is walking the ball up and it's

830
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: just so counterintuitive to way the way he plays when

831
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: he's energized Lebron as well, and he's at the four

832
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: it's a lot more roaming, which I think induces him

833
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: to to kind of load manage as well. I don't

834
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: know something about that starting lineup. Uh, it's just really

835
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: not out working, even though it fits like this archetype

836
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Speaker 1: of a Voga likes. But man, in that second half,

837
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Speaker 1: I thought it was huge to see Vogel switch up.

838
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: People have asking him to, you know, try to switch

839
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Speaker 1: his lineups, and in all the three guard lineup with

840
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: guards who can't defend next to Rust and Braun is

841
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: so against what Vogel wants to do. It was cool

842
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: to uh to see him go to that. I remember

843
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: when Luke Walton was the coach, we choked about Lebron

844
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: at the five right and Lebron posted that kind of

845
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: meme of him all buff and all that. But we

846
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: need it on this team with these guards. We saw

847
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: league Monk Wayne Ellington's hold their own right. And Indiana

848
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: is not a great team. I think they came in

849
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: at like eight and eleven. They're kind of middle of

850
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: the pack and a lot of places, but Sa Bonus

851
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: Brogden are really good players. Lever is a good player.

852
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: They're the middle of the pack. They're a good team, right,

853
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: they play at a baseline level where you have to

854
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: match that baseline to win against them, and that's kind

855
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: of what a five team is, and that's kind of

856
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: where we're at now. But I thought this is really

857
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: good in the second half. Another don't the tough night

858
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: for Taylor as well, but hopefully he he'll pick it up.

859
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: He needs to be a shooter as well. But I

860
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: want to kind of stick to that Lebron point. In

861
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: that second half, I thought we really found something with

862
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: the inverted ball screens, right, and this is all h

863
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: this is all a process. Vogo's trying to find stuff,

864
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Lebron is trying to find stuff, Russ is trying to

865
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: find stuff. But that inverted ball screen where we use

866
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Ellington or Monk as a screener, who got so much

867
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: out of that, and I thought that kind of carried

868
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: us for most of the most of that game. Lebron's

869
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: family again be able to pick out some bonus, and

870
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: he can't do that if he's playing next to another center, right,

871
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: like he's playing next to DeAndre Jordan's, if he's playing

872
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: next to Dwight Howard, it's harder to mismatch Hunt because

873
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: teams would just stick their big man right in the center,

874
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: and it's tougher for Lebron to get driving lanes. It's

875
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: tougher for us to find driving lanes. And it was

876
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: just great to see the offense moving that way and

877
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: our defense really picked up. I don't think Link Monk

878
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: and Wayne Ellington are gonna be able to defend that

879
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: way every night. It but just they just can't get beat.

880
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: And we got beat a lot by t J McConnell.

881
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: I thought he killed us early on. But we just

882
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: can't get beat at the point of attack that we

883
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: are And that's the point of the zone as well, right,

884
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: The whole point of the zone is to take away

885
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: that point of attack defense so that you have two

886
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: guards basically shutting off driving lanes. Right, That's the point

887
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: of the zone. But the issue to me with that

888
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: is we're just giving up too many corner threes. And

889
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: I thought we saw that in the first half. But

890
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: this is a good game. I want to kind of

891
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: stay positive here. A lot of again coaching rumors and

892
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: all that, and another game tech tonight. I know a

893
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: lot of people are ready for Vogel to be canned,

894
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: and and I understand that even though I'm not there.

895
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I just think firing a coach in the middle of

896
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: the year, and I've I've stayed in my claims on

897
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: why I think that's true. But i another game like tonight,

898
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: like I can see Vogels searching. He's a guy that

899
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: lives in the film room. Right, And again, I'm not

900
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna go too much longer. I feel like I'm rambling here,

901
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: But what was the guy that lives in the film room.

902
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: And he's not dumb. He sees I rewatched these games.

903
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: He probably rewatches these games five five times, right, it's

904
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: probably just replaying his head all the time. He sees

905
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: what DeAndre Jordan is doing. But there's like a given

906
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: a pull, there's a given a poll there, right, And

907
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: that's the reason he starts Avery Bradley, That's the reason

908
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: he starts DeAndre Jordan, just to just to have the

909
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: archetype of a defense, try to instill than identity. And

910
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: tonight without a D I thought it was super impressive

911
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: in that second half. Lebron turned into defensive player type

912
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: of year type Lebron with the offense. He can't do

913
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: that every night, but we need his commitment on that end.

914
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: But again, Vogeo adjusting. These are positive signs to me

915
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: to take from tonight. And we're still a bad team

916
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. We still have a ways

917
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: to go. The rest of it's still isn't pretty. I

918
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: was thinking about this. Uh Rust does a lot of

919
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: his attacks in this like nuclear wave. Right, it's this,

920
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: it's this nuclear title hit. It's this nuclear title wave.

921
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: And we need some more like consistent waves, you know,

922
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: we need a little bit more of a consistent attack.

923
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: But again, tonight, I thought his his ball control was

924
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: a lot better. He had a few plays like I

925
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: think the miss dunk that he had or some of

926
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: the turnovers that you'll get. But his energy I thought helped.

927
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: We saw how him and Broun can kind of work.

928
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: I really like that Braun at the five lineup that

929
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: I talked about earlier, with Russ kind of as the

930
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: center there. Like even though Braun is the five, Russ

931
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: is the Russ is the five on offense because he's

932
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: the non shooter in the lineup, right, So you'll have

933
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: you'll have Mellow out there, or maybe you'll Mellow or

934
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: Ellington and Monk, and I just think this team has

935
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: to lean in to that and we saw how they

936
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: can be effective defensively. I love that they went away

937
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: from the zone. I love that they just stuck to

938
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: a traditional switching with a little bit of drop coverage

939
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: or Lebron's the you know guy at the rim that

940
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: you have to that you have to attack. So I

941
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: thought that was great. Um, let's see if I have

942
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: anything else in my notes here. Uh yeah, I guess

943
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: last thing just on Taylor Horton Tucker. He's gonna play

944
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: man Like I saw people, you know, pining for him

945
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 1: too to be benched or to just not play, or

946
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: Taylor has to play like twenty years old. That these

947
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: are the growing pains you're gonna get. I've been saying,

948
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: he's probably not the player that we saw the first

949
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: three games right where he's averaging twenty five or whatever

950
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: it was. And he's probably not this player who's missing

951
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: layups at the rim and uh you can't score a

952
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: basket or missing all his shots. He's somewhere in between there.

953
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: I think he'll find his rhythm. He's such a rhythm

954
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: player anyway, Like he's such a need the ball in

955
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: his hands. And when you're next to Lebron, next to

956
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Rus you're just not going to get those type of touches.

957
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: And you can see when he gets the ball, it's

958
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, this is my time now, like

959
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: this is my chance to run something. And he was

960
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: in those small lineups that I liked um and they

961
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: used him as a screener as well. I think that's

962
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: a way to get him going. But he has to

963
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: shoot to me like this. They had Miles Turner on

964
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: him a lot where Miles was giving him the jumper,

965
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: and he's too good of a shooter at least what

966
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: his jumper looks like. I think he's putting in too

967
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: much work for him to be passing up um open

968
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: threes like that. But yeah, so I think that's enough

969
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: of me rambling. You guys have thanks, give me and

970
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: get to I'm gonna get to callers, so if you

971
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: want to, you want to come up requesting. I'm gonna

972
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: try to get to a bunch of people tonight because

973
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: I don't really like just talking to myself. It's kind

974
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: of strange. Uh so let me see here again. Thanks

975
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: everyone for coming out on Thanksgiving Eve. At least they

976
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: would say, you guys have probably family and all to

977
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: talk to and stuff. While I go and rewatch this game.

978
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: But let's see yo, Uh, Jonathan, are you there? Can

979
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: you hear me? I can hear you. What's going on? Bro?

980
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: That's up big homie rides man? What's up that much?

981
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: A man? Uh? The thht thing? Bro? I think he

982
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: got to do a better job at taking advantage of

983
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: his tattooes right when he gets the ball. I think

984
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: he'd be settling up with the jumper a lot more.

985
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: I think he should attack more. I've seen a play

986
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: where like he ain't got the switch, he had a

987
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: turner on him right, and he didn't take the three.

988
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: He got a screen and he got out who was

989
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: at Broaden on or somebody had somebody smallering him, But

990
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: he took the three over him and it was like

991
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: he was gonna take the three. You could have just

992
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: took that over turner like right, like why you can

993
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: pass that? But yeah, No, it was good to see

994
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: Lebrian take over. I told him, when uh le Bron

995
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: is out there, rust won't have a ball so that

996
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: turnovers won't matter. So that was a good thing to

997
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: see see Lebrian take over like that, because that's what

998
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: I'll be on a d to do, but he seems

999
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: to just let Russ Win get instead of taking over

1000
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: and taking the last shots. But I don't know that

1001
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: was a good win. I'll be in the house Friday.

1002
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully they do the same thing for sure. Yeah, on

1003
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: your tailing point, like he definitely does. He's still in

1004
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: this like he's a rim seeker. I think, as they

1005
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: call him, he's a guy that just you know, he's attack, attack, attack,

1006
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: or he's like, uh he he's like one legged fadeaways.

1007
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: Look that looked really pretty when when they go in,

1008
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: But lately they've been airballs. I'd like him to like

1009
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: play the three and D role a little bit more.

1010
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: I think he's a better spot up shooter than he thinks.

1011
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: He passes up a lot of shots, but when he

1012
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: does get the ball, you're right he should be attacking.

1013
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: It's just tough. He's been playing in two big lineups

1014
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: as well, next to Rus, next to Lebron. Teams just

1015
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: play off him, you know, they play him as a driver,

1016
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: they're scouting him. I think I posted a video Alec

1017
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: Burke's like closed out super short on him, basically daring

1018
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: him to shoot, and then he drove in and threw

1019
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: up some wild shot and I think it was like

1020
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: over eight against the Knicks or something like that. But

1021
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, but he's young. I think he turned twenty

1022
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: one today or something like that. But yeah, I have

1023
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: birthday TSD. But but yeah, it's growing pains for him.

1024
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: But you're right, man, seeing Lebron takeover was was huge

1025
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: and it's the most important part of the season to me,

1026
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: Like that's Lebron's not Lebron all this is a waste,

1027
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, the thing is we

1028
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: just we gotta buy time. TSC just be thinking too much.

1029
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: But I think that's gonna have I've been with all

1030
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: the little lineup changes, Like when the Reason come back,

1031
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna we're gonna you know, I mean, it's gonna

1032
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: be funny thinking out there again. They're gonna be out

1033
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: there looking, you know, crazy when none come back. The

1034
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: same thing. But we should have a star power. We

1035
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: should have enough to you know, overcome that and let

1036
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: everybody find a rhythm wherever they gotta you know, kick

1037
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: in at like right, yeah, we're shifting as a team

1038
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: like this, this is a team that goes against pretty

1039
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: much everything our coach wants to do. And then we have, uh,

1040
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, star players that don't fit perfectly, so it's

1041
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna take time. It's looked ugly early on, but I

1042
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: think they're trying to find a little bit. I think

1043
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: Russ is starting to find his spots. Lebron is trying

1044
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: to find his spots. And hopefully, you know, we haven't

1045
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: got too many games with the Big three either, so

1046
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: hopefully when when a D comes back, we can start

1047
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: building that rhythm and this road trips over. I think

1048
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: we're like what two and three or something, but but yeah,

1049
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: hopefully we can we can start a win streak here,

1050
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 1: because this was a good win. To me, The second

1051
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: half was good. I said that in the Detroit win,

1052
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna be too too hopefully here, but

1053
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was good to see Lebron take over

1054
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: for sure, before we even convey with what kind of

1055
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: team we are? That's so funny. Yep, for sure, man,

1056
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: Uh my guy, I appreciate you coming up right on. Bro.

1057
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: Appreciate you of course. Alright, Joe are you there, hey, Rod?

1058
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Man? I can hear you? What's

1059
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: going on? Man? Hey? Nothing much? Man, I'll tell you

1060
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: what Man, that was exciting, bro. Just you're right man,

1061
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: just seeing Lebron, uh, you know do this thing taking

1062
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: over and all that good stuff. I think for Vogel, man,

1063
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's the classic. What I watched was Lebron's

1064
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: body language with some of the clunky lineups. Man. And

1065
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: I think Vogel really needs to because light wind Horse

1066
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: said he's not gonna tell you what it is, but

1067
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: I think he's giving Vogel kind of the answers to

1068
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: the test based on how he kind of perked up

1069
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: when he was at the five and he had, you know,

1070
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: those guys out there with the spacing, so hopefully well

1071
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: was been kind of keying on that. But uh, I

1072
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: was super excited to see the way Ellerton and Monk

1073
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: battled man like for rebounds and things like that with

1074
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: those guys being small. So it's good to see that man.

1075
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: And was that the first time. I mean it's the

1076
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: first time I saw where he did the silencer in

1077
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: the Laker uniform. Man, I I made some kind of

1078
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: noise in my living room there. My daughter looked at

1079
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: me like I was crazy, bro, because I was just excited.

1080
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: But uh enjoyed the win. I know, we got a

1081
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: lot to you know, we got a long way to go, man,

1082
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: but just enjoyed that win. Man and everybody on the air.

1083
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: Have a great Thanksgiving. Man. I appreciate it, Joe, I

1084
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Yeah. Maybe, I mean I can't imagine what

1085
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: you would have to because of the amount of ship

1086
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: I bet Lebron here is on a game the game basis,

1087
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what you'd have to say for him

1088
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: to come and point you out to a ref to

1089
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: escort you out, like I just can't as you. But yeah,

1090
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: it's seem to get him going fired up. He had

1091
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: two big time threes. He was just he just looked

1092
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: like the best player in the world tonight. And that

1093
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: was cool, cool to see him kind of step back

1094
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: into that. At least we can see that it's still there.

1095
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Uh and maybe John Hollider can drop some more articles here,

1096
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it was it was a good win. Uh.

1097
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: And like the Lebron sending you know, uh mixed messages

1098
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: to Vogel, I can't get there, like Lebron's played like

1099
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: eight what this this is what tender eleventh game? Like,

1100
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: I just can't get to the Lebrons sending messages to Vogel.

1101
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: They've been through a war, they've been through a bubble,

1102
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: they went through a championship. I just I can't get there,

1103
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: but but yeah, a good win. Man, it was cool

1104
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: to see Lebron hype after hitting some big shots on

1105
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: the road. Absolutely, thanks man, appreciate it. Appreciate you. Uh

1106
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: Vladimir either is it lamoid lammid dere all right, I'm

1107
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: not ready yo, Yeah, I can hear you. What's going on? Man? Yeah,

1108
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: I just wanted to go on Joe's point. Man, shout

1109
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: out to my leak Monk and Winne Ellington. Uh, they're

1110
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: they're shooting. Was great from three and I think the

1111
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: league Monk had like eight boards, which is huge. And

1112
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: I know we talked about point of a tag pavans

1113
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: a lot and to me and my leak Monk didn't

1114
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: really show that tonight. You know, he wasn't really getting

1115
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: bet off one drip or one moves. I think I

1116
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: saw that more from Ellington, but I just want to

1117
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: give him a huge shout out. You know, Lebron looked amazing.

1118
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: You know, this is how we optimize our lineups. Just

1119
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: go back to give them shooting and let them go

1120
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: to work. Yeah, I agree. And if they can defend

1121
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: like this, uh and I think you know that late

1122
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: game kind of just switching everything, I think it tends

1123
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: to help them a little bit more. They're very quick.

1124
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: Our starting lineup is so slow, and when we play

1125
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: with two bigs, we just look so slow. And even

1126
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: if Ellington or Monk are guys who get picked on

1127
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: and targeted. And I thought Monk got targeted a little

1128
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: bit in the first half by t J McConnell. He

1129
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: really went at him. But in that second half, man,

1130
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: he really he stepped up. I thought on both ends

1131
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: league Monk was huge offensively. He's a big time shotmaker.

1132
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: He's a he's a guy you can just give the

1133
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: ball to. I thought in the third quarter a lot

1134
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: of our offense was just here in the league Monk

1135
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: create and he did. He was like step back, you know,

1136
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: dribble through the legs, one leg floaters. Um. He had

1137
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: huge threes off of Lebron screen off of screening for Lebron.

1138
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: He was big time man and Ellington and Ellington I

1139
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: think is a is a guy. He's not a good defender,

1140
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: but he's a guy who's in the right places. Like

1141
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't get he doesn't get beat off like where

1142
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be as much. Monk gets beat off

1143
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: like he's too small or uh, like he missed his

1144
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: box outs and that stuff that's gonna happen. But to me,

1145
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: like this team needs both of their offenses and I've

1146
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: been pining for Mellington to get more minutes. Um. I

1147
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: liked the Monk and Ellington next to Braun at the five.

1148
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: I think their speed is something we can use defensively,

1149
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: like we just feel so slow we play these big,

1150
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: trotting out lineups. But you're right, man, Monks stepped up huge.

1151
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: It was cool to see. It was cool to see

1152
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: him have another big game on the road. This is

1153
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: probably his like second game he's like helped us win

1154
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: in a in a big time way just with his

1155
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: scoring with a d out. It was it was cool, man,

1156
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: And I think we're progressing here. Every game you see

1157
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: a little little small process things that are that are

1158
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: hopefully training up. Yeah, definitely. And you know, I don't

1159
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: think we win this game without Lebron hitting you know,

1160
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: crazy step back threes. But it's just nice to see

1161
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: that we have a closer you know. I know people

1162
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: like to harp on a d and you know, being

1163
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: that superstar. But you know, I feel like we just

1164
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: with just Lebron, you always have a chance. And um,

1165
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: I like to see Vocal adjusting to like I'm kind

1166
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: of in and out on you know, whether he's the

1167
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: right guy for our team. But to see him kind

1168
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: of go away from his philosophy and just working with

1169
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: what he has in front of him, I think it

1170
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: does show some progress. Yeah, man, that's why I'm don't

1171
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: I've said this a lot, but I just think firing

1172
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: Franklogo opens up a whole kind of learns a whole

1173
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: bunch of unintended consequences that you have no idea. Who

1174
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: is replaced him is if he can instill what he wants.

1175
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: This is a tough basketball team to coach, though, you

1176
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like the Rust fit just isn't pretty,

1177
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: and even tonight it's still ugly in a lot of places.

1178
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: It's still Lebron and Rust still have issues trying to

1179
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: attack at the same time, uh turnovers where they're both

1180
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: kind of drying. It's a tough team to coach, and

1181
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: you're a guy who leans on defense, even if the

1182
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: numbers don't match that starting lineup. It matches his eyes

1183
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: in a way, it matches his philosophies. Is that ideal

1184
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: ideologies as a defensive minded guy, and you're gonna keep

1185
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: seeing this man. But the small adjustments I think are happening.

1186
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: I think Lebron at the five is a point to that, uh,

1187
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: a point to that direction. So hopefully we see that

1188
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: more going forward. It takes a lot out of Lebron, though.

1189
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: I think those step factories were uh, kind of a

1190
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: show that he was fatigued because the Bonus is a

1191
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: guy he likes to attack off the basket, like off

1192
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: the dribble, Like the Bonus is just a guy he

1193
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: likes to go at, you know as a off the dribble,

1194
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: and he really stopped doing that. He took the step

1195
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: bac threes they went in. He was he was incredible though.

1196
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: To close, you're right, all right, that's it for today, guys,

1197
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Happy Thanksgiving, and we'll see you tomorrow.

1198
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: Night