WEBVTT - One on One: Rob Estes 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:17.279 I am all in all that's kiss you. I am 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.960 all in with Scott Pattison and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello, Hello, 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:27.280 rob Estus, Hello, Hello, and thanks for joining us. Uh 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.040 and uh, it's really great to see again. I remember 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:38.040 we did some really great scenes together and it's it's 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.920 it's it's been a while. So your first appearance okay, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.720 so you portray Jimmy Mariano, who's Just's dad in two 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.920 episode one is season two episode twenties Saga Night Gracie 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.200 in the last most season three episode twenty one, Here 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.680 Comes the Sun. That's it. This is some total and 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.880 it seems like so much more so. Um. You're known 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.840 for your roles as Harry Wilson Team Team Drama nine 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.400 O two one oh and Sergeant Chris Lorenzo and the 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.360 crime dramas series Silk Stockings, Col McBride, primetime soap opera 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.759 Melrose Place. Those are some very fancy credits, my friend, 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.520 very very very fancy show. And you currently start in 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:20.880 the Netflix after franchise playing Ken Scott. Let me start 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.600 off here by welcome you, welcoming you to the show, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.160 and thanks for coming on. But we recently recapture comes 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.880 of Suns and we want some clarification on something. Did 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:33.039 this episode served as the pilot for Jess Jimmie spinoff 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.319 wind Boots Circle or did you guys shoot another pilot episode? No, 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.840 we shot a pilot. It's funny because I see I 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.039 knew you did. I knew that you did. Yes, it 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.399 was a very interesting time at WB because we shot 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.560 a spinoff and then I think some of the scenes 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:56.720 filtered into um actual Gilmore Girls, not not the spinoff obviously, um, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:01.160 but it actually got picked up. It got picked up. UM. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.000 I think they wanted to pick it up for nine 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.000 and if I would call, Amy wanted more episodes. She 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:13.679 didn't wanna do it for whatever. Um whatever they had, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.839 okayed um, and so she kind of like, will then 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:21.160 we're not gonna do it. So it's very interesting. Yeah, 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.920 so they so, so the network gave you a nine 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:28.520 episode order and Amy wanted a full twenty two or 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.440 something like that. Yeah. I don't know what the numbers were. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.680 It could have been six and she they wanted six 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.480 and she said thirteen. I don't I don't recall the numbers. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.880 I just remember it was. It was a pretty big issue. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.440 There were some phone calls that went back and forth, um, 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.919 and in the in the in the midnight hour, she went, Okay, 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.519 well then I'm not gonna do it. I'm good. Interesting. Well, 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.280 you know, because we were going back and forth on 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.720 the show, I distinctly remembered that you did shoot a 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.639 separate pilot, but the girls in the research was telling 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.079 them that no, that served as the pilot those two 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.640 scenes in the show, and the fans didn't react, so 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.480 they didn't know. We absolutely did. I remember you shooting 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.560 the pilot. I think I even went down and visited 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.360 Milo while he was shooting the pilot. I remember I 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.960 came down, we boardwalk, we shot it, shot it, um 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:24.960 right off Abbotckinney at that house with Sheylyn and um. Yeah. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.960 And Milo was awesome. I mean we had such a 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.720 good time. He's such a good kid. Oh yeah, well, so, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.960 well tell me what it was like working with him. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:37.760 I mean it was funny because he was just he's 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:43.080 kind of you know, my my interpretation is with my loove. Uh, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:48.560 he wears his heart. He's just very available. Um, and 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.920 he's real and whatever he does. You know, I watched 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.800 him on some of his stuff now and I knew 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.240 back down I was like, once this is done, he's 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.600 going to become huge, um, because he just you know, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.600 he had a little place in Venice that he just got. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.920 He was redoing the hardwood floors and his dad were doing, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.560 you know, work on it, and I don't know, man, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.360 he just he's a really good soul. So I'm so 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.080 glad to see how well he's done, because he deserved. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.560 He's a hard worker. You know, you know him better 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.039 than I, but that's my remembrance. And it was fun 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.600 working on scenes that, you know, one in the morning 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:31.600 on the boardwalk in Venice, crazy people hanging out of him. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.120 It's quite a It's a unique place in the world. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.479 There's only there's only one Venice, California, and that's it. Um. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.200 When you got the role of Jimmy Mariana, did you 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.240 know that this was the plan to have a spin off? 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.640 Is that how they booked you? Like, hey, you're gonna 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.040 be on the show? We read We went further the 0:04:56.200 --> 0:05:04.479 network four times with different guys, um hours and hours. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.520 So yeah, it was a set up pilot, um. And 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.159 you know Amy's Amy's dialogue is very specific, you know, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.240 I mean she wants people to just roll and run 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.520 things off. You know, it's like, guess why Laurens so 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.360 great at it? It just falls out of her mouth beautifully. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:26.039 Um And in the reading um in the tests and 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.720 I think we did three tests. It was just pages 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:36.000 of UM and I ended up getting cast in it. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.279 But I don't know that her dialogue fits in my 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.120 mouth the way it needed to for it to be 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.600 really successful, you know. And not that I was the 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:50.200 death now, but it's pretty specific, you know, And for me, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.359 I'm a little more if there's an ant or a 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.640 butt or a paraphrase, you know that works for me, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.240 um uh and that you know, she was much more 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.039 specific than that. Interesting, how many other do so? It 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:08.200 was you and Milo? Were you testing Milo uh three times? 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.479 Or were you testing with other actors? You know what, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.080 I don't think Milo was. Milo was never in the room. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.320 It might have been me and Cherylyn. I don't recall 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.200 me so long ago that was in the thick of 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.839 you know, there was so many in person tests and auditions. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.279 It was just a different thing back then. Um And 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.719 and w B. For me with um Peter at the 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.680 helm Um creatively, there was just so much stuff going 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.760 on there that my brain is a little foggy on it. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.000 But I know, I never read with Milo until we 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.800 I think a table read and it was like, you know, 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.760 it was really cool. I know it wasn't it wasn't 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.600 at a table read. I didn't work with Milo until 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.440 I did some scenes in those, uh the two episodes 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.240 that I was in. That was the first time I 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:01.760 met Milo and that this fotty was awesome. So okay, So, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:06.440 so you guys fit perfectly together as father and son, Um, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.520 and I just wanted to tell you that, uh, it 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:16.040 really really really really worked. Um. The character however, you know, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.840 I you know, you you say some interesting things like 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.520 her dial I didn't fit in your mouth. I don't 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:28.560 know that the character was so well conceived, thought out. Yeah, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:33.280 I mean, I I don't know, so address this because 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.240 it confused me when I was watching those scenes, because 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.760 I know you're such a strong actor and you really 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.720 know your stuff, but I was just kind of wondering 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:48.000 how they thought somebody and you're so likable, How somebody 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.800 so likable could play a character that was so unlikable 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.680 and think that that was going to be successful. I 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.480 guess I don't remember all the facts of you know 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:02.120 what the backstory was. But you know, I remember there 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.160 being a part of Jimmy that was like, okay, you know, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.120 on some level it's you know, maybe this is a 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:14.680 way to make amends atonement, even though I don't know 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.320 that I'm capable of it, because he says to him, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.400 you know, and he I, you know, I don't want 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.400 you at my house. I you know, and in the 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.840 midnight hour I let him sleep on my couch. It's like, 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.800 you know, what kind of person does that? But I 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.920 think that's you know, part of an arc is you 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.560 want to get in there and cheer for the person. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.600 You're like, oh, what a you know, this guy's got 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.280 a lot of you know, growing up in maturing to do. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.280 Is he capable of it? So I don't know if 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.960 that was going to be part of the art. Um 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.600 maybe you know that was that was part of hoping 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:52.160 supposed to happen. I don't know, right right, Yeah, anyway, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.520 tell us about Sherylyn Fenn. What was it like working 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.200 on She was great, man, she was just in it 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.000 and it was so funny. I was like, you know, 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.520 I grew up in Santa Monica and Venice and she, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:10.400 you know, so many um of my the high school, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.200 high school females that I went to school with, you 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.920 could say that back in the day. Um, you know, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.240 they ended up living around there and they were so 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.720 much like her, just kind of like real chill and 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:29.040 you know, earthy um. And back then Venice wasn't or 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.200 Abbot Kennyet wasn't. You weren't paying three million for hous. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.000 It was like the starter place, you know what I mean, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.040 the canals and everything. My sister lived there for a 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:42.280 while and it had some grit to it. Um. But 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:48.080 she was great, um, very into working on scenes. If 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:54.480 I recall making adjustments, being able to make adjustments, Um, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.360 did you did you read with her? In the addition? 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.240 You know what I may have I don't recall. I 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:05.040 think we did. I think she and I read um 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.120 and I, oh you know what, I think I gotten 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:12.400 cast and then we were finding uh, the other role 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.120 and I think she and I read them for her 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.760 test um or I read. I don't know, but that 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:28.560 you know, yeah, that kind of rings about. Yeah, alright, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.360 So the scene in front of the bookstore with Milo, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:35.240 How did you memorize so much dialogue? What's your process like? Um? 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.720 How do I rememberize so much dialogue. It's so funny. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.840 I watched it, um, like what a couple of days ago, 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.880 just custing. It's like, oh God, look at yourself and 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.920 the old days, just like, oh that's horrible. Um. With Milo, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.160 we ran it a ton. We ran that scene so 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:58.439 many times, and we ran it different ways. Um. And 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.560 he was just completely of available and willing to do whatever. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.120 I think at that time, I was working with Larry 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.520 Moss in his class and we did all kinds of 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.640 like you know, fun exercises, and mine was like I'm 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.440 in man, I'm game. You want to paraphrase the whole scene. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.520 Let's paraphrase the whole scene, you know, if you're gonna 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.720 do it with a Texas accent and okay, whatever whatever 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.880 works for you. Um. So we have fun. We just 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.560 throw it around. And I think the process for me 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:33.560 was trying to get underneath what why I was there? 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.320 You know why? Um all suddenly you know there's a 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.760 there was a connection there again with the two of 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.320 us as characters. And what does that mean if you 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.160 think you're a really shitty dad? Um, what do you 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.680 do even when you think you you still I don't 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:59.000 know what to do, But do you have kids. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.840 Oh how old he's a he's a yeah, thanks, he's 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.600 It's wonderful. Yeah. How about you? I got I have three? Yeah, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.920 I got twenty three year old, which I was thinking 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.680 about because you know, as kids get older, things flip 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.880 um and you look at the mistakes that you've made 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:20.319 and you're like, ah, for the lack of your own maturity, 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.520 you know what I mean, every parent's gonna make mistakes. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.880 But sure, sure anyway, I don't know with my logist, 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.560 that scene made me rethink of like, Okay, yeah, dad, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.480 I wish I had known that back then. Um, but 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.160 do you do you do you remember that? You know? 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.760 I mean you know every parent, every parent makes mistakes. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.320 It's it's inevitable. You know, there are no perfect parents. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.000 Hey man, I just you know, as long as you 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.960 show up and you're there, I think that's that's that's 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.160 half the battle. So like that, Um, do you remember 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.000 the day because I remember very distinctly. Do you're not 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:59.440 about a spinoff but about getting gilmarp and becoming Seriously, 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.240 do you remember the day you were told about the 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.640 spinoff going forward and that you were involved in it? 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:10.160 I don't. I don't remember No, it was kind of 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.240 it was for me, it was a really crazy time 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:17.000 because I had a holding deal with Warner Brothers, um, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.080 and just like so much stuff came at me really fast, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.240 and I could never quite catch up with some of 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.559 the things that were happening. So tell us about that. So, 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:34.000 so for the fans listening, in a holding deal is 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:39.080 when they pay an actor not to take job. Right, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.760 So you're just they pay you a pretty nice chunk 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.720 of money to steal your heels for a year, right 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.880 until they can find something to put you in and 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.840 you don't have to take it. They can suggest it. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.480 They send you the script. What do you think about this? 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.880 Would you would you like to do that? We see you. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.760 It's a nice position because you can actually, you know, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:07.880 look at um uh what you might want to do, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.680 and then you know, you go and you meet with 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.520 showrunners and you you see if there's there are avenues 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:17.360 that are interesting to you that way. Um. Sometimes wish 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.760 I would I wish I would have been a little 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.680 more business savty back then. Tell us about some of 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.280 the projects you met on and were there any projects 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.640 that you met on that went on and did big things? Uh, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.040 it's funny because I always wanted to do a sitcom. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.880 That was one of my things. So so you know, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.480 this is literally what ye are we talking about? What? What? 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.120 What year are we talking about? Here? We're talking about 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.960 I'm gonna guess two thousand, No earlier than that, I 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:50.120 would say probably two thousand one and a half. And 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.400 you had and you had a holding deal at Warner Brothers. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.600 And well how it happened was I was doing melrose 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:00.480 Place and um and and it's funny because I think 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:05.200 I think gil mgirls, you guys did twenty two a year, right, yes, okay, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.520 so we did thirty six a year. So on Marrows, 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.880 you would do thirty six a year. You'd have two teams, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.160 have a red team and a blue team, and the 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.960 and the characters would be heavy and one enlighten another. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.720 So you get two paychecks a week. You do thirty 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.240 six a year, you know, two for a total of 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.960 I think two hundred and something. Long story short, uh 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.640 spelling that you know was done with the show. Fox 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.480 was kind of done with the show. And I get 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.880 a I'm on set in the middle of a scene 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.640 and the A D condomnent goes, hey, there's a phone 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.800 call for you. And I was like, okay, they can wait. No, no, no, no, 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.320 there's a phone call for you. You You need to take 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.280 it right now. And I'm like, we'll dude, we're all 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.400 about to shoot. He said, I don't care, go pick 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.160 up the phone. And I was like that never. When 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.520 does that happen the United States? So what's going on? 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.880 People going you know? Um? So I go and it's 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.600 Peter Roth, who was the head of TV development for 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:05.880 Order Brothers. He was the president, the big guy. Yeah yeah, Peter. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.040 Oh heay, Peter, what's going on? And I knew him 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.000 from working with cattle. He ran Cattle's company from a while. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.080 He goes, you gotta do me a favor and I 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.120 said what. He goes, you still, you gotta stay and 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.400 work for me, And I was like, what do you mean. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.240 I said, if there's a couple of other things that 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.400 are happening, and he goes, listen to me, I will 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.040 make this worth your while. You're gonna stay with us, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.080 and we're gonna get a holding deal. We'll get it 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:32.240 done by tomorrow. Okay. So just just down of the 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.880 blue like that. Your agent hadn't approached them. It was 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:40.680 just Peter picking up the phone. He went around, he 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.240 went around the back door, because we knew each other 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.920 and I knew that, you know, I mean I actually 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.960 rather had the conversation then agents at that point. Um. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.480 So anyway, you know, I said, you know, I'm down 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.480 for this, but I don't want to sit and wait 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.240 a year. I said, if you can get me, so 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.040 I'm working. I really wanted to a sitcom. So I 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.120 ended up doing Suddenly Susan for a season, and then 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:10.240 I did a John Burrows pilot called Tikiville, so I 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.360 got to do some things I really wanted to do. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.560 Um and it just kind of built from there. We 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.320 did two pilots and then I can't remember what ultimately 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.840 ended up getting. Oh, I ended up getting it getting 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:27.080 the evidence for John Wells, the John Wells project, um 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.600 that we shot in Vancouver. So you know, it was 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.439 it was really fun. It was fun to you know, 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.040 to get to jump to front of lines just because 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.800 Peter Roth went, no, it's it's it's his right, right 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:48.680 right right right? Yeah, you know, fantastic. Um. Um, So 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:54.040 what was the reaction like getting back to this pilot? Right? 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:59.040 And it was the pilot ever aired? No, not to 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.680 see some of the scene was sprinkled in. I was like, wait, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.119 I think that that was from the pilot. No, it 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.359 never aired. The pilot never aired, right, right, Okay, so 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:13.600 so did you do you recall any reaction from Gilmore 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.679 fans at the time about those scenes and about the pilot. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:22.800 Never remember, Um, the loyalty to Gooldboy Girls was unbelievable, 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.200 so I'd be in the market whatever in The reaction was, 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.360 Oh my god, hey, lovel of Love. I'm like, yeah, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.720 I think it's gonna be on the show and it 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:39.320 was great. Um. And I remember distinctly at Gelson's um, 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.679 somebody kind of saying to me, you better be a 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:49.280 good dad to him. I was like, like, you know, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:54.240 and there was no preamble, there was no no either 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.000 for him. And I was like, yeah, I don't know 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.680 you what no, no, no, but you they know you. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:08.200 The gil were fans of the real deal manc Yeah. 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.000 Uh so, what are your favorite memories from being on 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.679 that set? You know, God, it's gonna be it's it's 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:24.720 gonna sound weird, but for me, um, like, um in 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:29.400 the lemonade stands. My little sister worked in that lemonade 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.560 stand growing up and I'm in there, like you know, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.399 mixing it up and running the place. I mean, I 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.080 can remember, um being on that boarder walk, you know, 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.040 summertime when it was ninety degrees and I've been at 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.720 the beach all day. I remember like this little gang 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.560 of us that would would go and be on that 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.720 boarder walk and go and you know being a lot 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:56.200 of the places that we filmed out from the bookstore. Um, 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.159 so that was cool. And then Milo man Milo, and 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.920 I was winner when we shot it. And I showed 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.359 up with an old vintage World War two jacket. And 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.720 Milo has really good style, like Milo is just he's 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.479 tight and he doesn't throw it in your face. It's 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.119 not about money. He just has good taste. And I 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:15.960 said to him, I said, dude, I said, you dressed 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.120 so like, you know, humble but sharp. And he goes, 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.400 I was just thinking the same about you, like your 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.000 your boots and the jacket. And I was like, well, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.600 I was thinking the same about you. When he goes, well, 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.960 we should go shot Melrose. So like we we took 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:32.640 a day and just the two of us wasn't got 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.320 food shop non Rose cruised around. He got a World 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.760 War two jacket, exactly like I had. It was really cool. Um, 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.040 So I wish it would have. UM. I think my 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:50.720 takeaway from that whole environment is that I wish I 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.440 would have had more time with that character and with 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:58.199 Milo everything, because she's so talented, just to see what 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.760 could have blossomed, because I don't think it was quite there. 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.760 You know, but as you know, how many shows have 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.879 you done, and Gilmore Girls might have been one of 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.360 them that you know, the first four or five episodes, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.679 they're okay, and then the writer starts to write for 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.760 you a little bit more, you know what I mean, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.520 and you know, the show really starts to take its 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:23.840 form and it gets great exponentially sometimes. Um, And I 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.520 wish I would have had the shot at seeing if 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:33.760 if that was the trajectory of the spinoff didn't happen. Yeah, 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.200 So after Gilmore you went on to other TV shows 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:47.840 and films obviously, and U currently you are in after uh, 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.879 the after franchise on Netflix. What else do you have 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.840 coming up? If anything? It's funny because After After Ever Happy, 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.240 which is the fourth and Sam it came out in 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.800 theaters today, so that's kind of cool. So it's in 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.080 local theaters now for anybody wants to jump on and 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.879 see it. UM tell us a little bit about it. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.119 Great Uh. Ana Todd is the writer. She wrote a 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:15.040 series of five UM kind of young, not young, I 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:19.840 would say twenty something romantic novels UM. And the two 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:25.360 leads Um Hero Fines and Josephine Um have become huge stars. 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.080 I mean and again it's the fans are almost as 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.520 rapid as the old Gilmar girls. I mean, they have 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.600 a loyalty. They post things and it's like, you know, 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.840 a million hits, two million hits, um. And and it 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.879 was built from the ground up. Ana Todd wrote it 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:44.879 as a in E series. She got a billion hits, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.679 then she sold the books UM and now Voltage Um 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.840 is making the films and UM, this one's really good. 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:58.840 It's awesome. I played the lead's dad. I'm the dad. 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:03.280 I like just a great guy. Actually reminds me of Milow. 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.240 Just really solid human being. So it's been a blast 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.640 to do them. UM. And then they got a movie, 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.879 Beautiful Disaster. It will come out a couple of months. 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:16.800 So just you know, doing it and trying to keep 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.280 it keep it moving right right right, Um, all right, 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:26.639 so you can get after on Netflix right now they dropped. 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.320 You can you can get the old ones. There's four 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.000 of them. You can get those on Netflix. And the 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:37.040 one after Ever Happy literally hit theaters today, so it's in. 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:43.720 It's got a big national release today, right right right? Um? Uh, 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.119 let me see what else? What else? Anything else you 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.760 want to talk about? Yeah, I want to discuss the 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.439 fact that of the best looking guys on Gilmore Girls, 0:23:52.480 --> 0:24:01.840 you're number five, And I'm yeah, yeah, what are you 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:07.240 talking about? Who? Who raided? Who? Who rated this? I 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:12.240 think it's what I was looking at IMDb like I 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:17.280 was die And then I'm like fIF five, coming in 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.320 at number five? Number five? Did I just never do 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:25.080 with the hat backwards? You were so comfortable? But who? 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.119 But who are the top four? But Milo? Matt, No, 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:33.920 you beat Milo? I beat Milo? Yeah? You killed him? 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:39.840 Man trusted Dan Wells? Who's Dan Wells? There you go? 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:48.280 He was number one? Yanni Yanni? Leave Matt? Wait minute, 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:52.040 wait a minute, you say Yanni Truesdale was number two? Uh? 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.440 Dan Wells number one? Dan number number one was Dan 0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:01.240