WEBVTT - DO NOT Give Your Child A Smartphone Before This Age 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:13.720 Hey there, folks. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.239 It is Sunday, December seventh, and this week one country 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.640 is doing something that no country on planet Earth has 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.880 ever done before. They are banning all kids under the 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:29.280 age of sixteen from social media. And we just got 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.360 two new studies that shows they might be onto something. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:34.800 And with that, welcome to this episode of Aby and 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.280 TJ Robes. It's no surprise we get new studies and 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.760 new information. But at this point we all understand that 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.240 cell phones are bad for kids. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.800 I gues and I think cell phones are probably bad 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.800 for all of us because of the way and how 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:49.680 often we use them. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.159 The way we use them. It's not the phone itself, right. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.320 No, it's you know, it's ever since we have these 0:00:55.360 --> 0:01:00.279 smartphone capabilities where we can engage in whatever content we 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.440 want or need to make us feel however we want 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:07.600 to feel, and just literally basically disappear away from the 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:08.199 real world. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:13.679 So, yes, one country is now doing something about the 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.959 impact social media is having on kids, and they have 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.240 banned it all together. It kicks in this week on Wednesday. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.640 I believe I have it right, and the country is, folks, Australia. Yes, 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.640 this is something they have been keeping an eye on 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.800 for quite some time. They have this thing and I 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.840 have it right. Yes, you're hearing us writing. Folks in Australia, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.280 if you are under the age of sixteen, starting this 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.240 week you are not supposed to be on social media. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:37.240 You are breaking the law. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.319 Yes, it goes into effect on December tenth. And they 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.200 mean business. They've been talking about this for months now 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.280 and it actually goes into effect on Wednesday of this week. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.520 And Malaysia is following suit in twenty twenty six, they 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.000 are going to do the exact same thing. I wouldn't 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.160 be surprised if we start to see countries one by 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.760 one putting in these types of bans. The problem is 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.440 going to be enforcement, as it almost always is with 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.320 any even good or decent law. Good luck enforcing it. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.480 Didn't you just say you wouldn't be surprised to see 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.079 more countries do this. Will you deny it? Its states 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:10.679 be one of them? 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:11.240 I doubt it. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.440 No chance in hell, never, no chance, right, absolutely. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:15.360 Not, not even it's dead on a rifle. 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.800 I mean, what we can't even we can't even balance 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.079 our budget. You think that we can get something. I mean, 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:21.880 I'm sorry, there's just no way. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.920 You say, balance. We can't even get it in on 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:25.200 time the budget. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.640 We can't even pay our federal employees. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.040 Okay, good, good point there. I don't think it is 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.840 ever happened in the United States, but we keep seeing. Look, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.120 every year we get a trickle of new studies and 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.920 whatnot about cell phones and the damage to kids and 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.120 social media and TikTok and how it's addictive and blah 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.200 blah blah blah blah. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.519 But there were two and these. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.760 Are not just studies another random group. These were as 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.000 legit as they get, at least in this community. Robes 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.320 two studies, one of them in particular, is kind of 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:57.640 giving us a number an age for you better not 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.000 be giving your kid a cell phone before this age, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.919 because it shows it's having a very serious impact. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.160 Yes, and I would imagine right about now a lot 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.440 of you parents have kids who are asking for a 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.480 new iPhone for Christmas or their first iPhone for Christmas. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.160 And look, I know my kids are older. Mine are 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.079 twenty three and nineteen. I gave Eva her first iPhone 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.520 at thirteen, and Annalise at twelve because she was riding 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.800 the bus by herself, so she got one a year earlier. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.640 But they were literally the last in their classes, even 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.320 back then ten years ago who got cell phones. And 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.000 they were complaining to me starting at about nine or ten, 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.760 and they wanted an iPhone and all the study says, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.680 you did the right thing, yes, but you know what, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.800 it was hard and they were really upset with me, 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.600 and who knows what else they sneaked around and did. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.320 But I understand the need for a phone for safety purposes. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.880 As parents, Yes, you want to be able to be 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.080 in contact with your child when they're away from you, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.440 and a cell phone is the best and easiest way 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.360 to do it. So I totally get it. That's when 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.600 I wish we had flip phones. That's when I wish 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.200 we could just have the contact and not give them 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.600 all the content. That's the tough part. 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.480 Well, they get that. Can you imagine trying to give 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.360 a kid a flip phone these days? 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.480 Oh mommy, I'd rather not have a phone at all. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:14.400 That's so embarrassing. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:15.400 That's probably what it's going to be. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.599 But folks, there is a this week is study in 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.400 the Journal Pediatrics taking a look at cell phones and 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.760 when a kid should get one, and they found that 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.120 there was a particular age in which it has just 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.880 a really devastating impact. And we're talking about things along 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:36.440 the likes of depression, anxiety, obesity, and they're pointing to it. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.200 I'm not sure how they landed on this, but they 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.839 are saying, Robes, if you give a kid the cell 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:47.080 phone before this age, you're probably doing more damage than 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:47.600 you realize. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:53.240 Yes, here is what the published article, the results of 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.000 this really interesting study that they did in the General 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.440 Pediatrics said, children who had a smartphone by the age 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.600 of twelve, we're at higher risk of depression, obesity, and 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.240 insufficient sleep than those who did not yet have one. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.160 So the younger that children under twelve were when they 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:16.920 got their first smartphones, the greater their risk of depression, obesity, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:17.760 and poor sleep. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.080 Package Hey, uf, you all hear that. That's the key 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.360 is if it's before twelve, and the younger they are 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.839 before twelve, the greater the risk is are for these moments. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:31.160 This is a pretty clear indication, at least to each 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.080 his and her own And I know kids are different 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.919 can hand a responsibility differently, but this is something we 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:36.919 got to pay attention to. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.520 Yeah, So they said, the big takeaway from this study 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.080 that they did is that age matters. It matters. They said, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.040 a kid at age twelve is This was a direct 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.159 quote from one of the researchers. A kid at age 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.240 twelve is very, very different than a kid at age sixteen. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.120 It's not like an adult at age forty two versus 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.200 forty six. There are significant differences in kids, and this 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.800 is a really important time of life when kids' brains 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.080 are developing at a very rapid pace. They're taking in 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.119 so much and they're learning habits, they're learning attention span, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.400 all of those things. So when they're just flipping and 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.000 scrolling and then they're comparing and contrasting and wishing they 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.680 had things different than and everyone else looks happier than them. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:19.360 Like we struggle with this as adults. I cannot imagine 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.440 having to navigate social media and all of what it's 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.000 telling me I should have or should look like when 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.000 you're that age. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.679 It drives me crazy. It's we've been we've spent some time. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.880 We were traveling with Sabine over the weekend twelve. Look, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.880 she's always bouncing around with us and doing stuff, so 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.560 she's never in a point where she's just sitting in 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.720 a corner by herself, necessarily, but at night it drives 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.159 me crazy to see her. We might have a game on, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.600 our movie on, and she is very comfortable just scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.839 scroll for hours, like looking at a ten second clip. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.800 I don't And yes, it's addictive. I understand that it is. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.960 I don't understand that. I ask all the time, what 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.640 is the appea of what you're seeing? 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:02.520 I don't know. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.040 It's entertainment, it's their form, it's their thing, it's what 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.960 they're coming up with. But I don't get it, and 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:07.960 it's driving me crazy. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.360 I absolutely understand that, because ironically, you said, we watch 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.520 our kids spend hours scrolling, doom scrolling, and they're not 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.040 focusing on one thing. They probably focused on ten thousand things. 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.200 So it's teaching them this. Just they're not able to focus. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.760 They're not able to stay and watch a full movie. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.120 They my kids don't even listen to full songs. That 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.680 drives me crazy. I was like, let the song finish. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.760 They get bored with the song halfway through and just 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.239 keep and switch it to the next one. And that 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:42.400 is absolutely I believe a byproduct of these phones and 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.000 their attention spans. I was like, you can't even listen 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.560 to a three minute song without changing it to the 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.920 next one because you're bored already. That is like telling. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.720 To me, Okay, let's not go too old fogy on 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.320 this episode, because we're starting to sound like it. My 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.400 question is we talk about the age here with this study, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.160 the kids should or shouldn't get phones, and we talk 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.320 about we talked about Australia already, how do you keep 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.640 a kid from These kids are smarter than all of 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.160 us obviously when it comes to cell phones. That's the 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.240 question you brought up in the very beginning. How do 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.480 you enforce this thing? And it's more so they're not 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.480 going to go after the kids and try to right. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.560 They're not for breaking the law if you will. It's 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.720 more so they're going to go after these social media companies, 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.600 but they put whatever policies in place to try to 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.800 keep a kid off who's under the age of sixteen. Already, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.719 there are reports and kids out there putting it out 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.599 how they've beaten the system already. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.000 They already know how to navigate around. In fact, they 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.520 actually were proudly putting their names out there, yes with 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.079 talking to news outlets saying I already know how I'm 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.560 getting around. My friends already know how we're getting around it, 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.719 but at least if they're making it more difficult. Look, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.680 the inevitability of something doesn't make it right. I've always 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.360 believed that, and so they're saying this isn't right. We 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.600 know this isn't good for our kids. This is incredibly 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.640 harmful what we're allowing our children to expeci and think 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.840 about it. The obesity rates in this country and around 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.000 the world are skyrocketing. Kids aren't moving, they aren't getting outside, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.400 they aren't interacting, they don't have social skills, they aren't 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.280 physical people like all of those things. Look, as parents, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.160 we can try to help navigate. You know, I tried 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.959 to do this until they got into high school and 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.760 then they're like I needed for homework and I had 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.400 to go to bed early. But I kept devices out 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.439 of the bedrooms, like there was like an eight thirty 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.920 nine PM policy when mom went to bed, the phones 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.960 went into my room and we're charging in my bedroom. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.320 And that was the only way I could have any 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.640 kind of control over the hours in which they were 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:37.640 looking at all of this content. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.120 And the experts will tell you that is a very 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.640 good first step, right, your kids are going to have 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.800 a phone. That's one thing you can do. I don't 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.520 do that with Sabine. She and for the most part, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.160 I trust it. She likes to sleep and likes to 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.719 go to bed, but still from nine to ten, it 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.960 shouldn't be the last thing she's doing. Everybody will tell 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.480 you that's staring at a screen. No matter what age 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.120 you are, it's the last thing you should be doing. 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:02.040 But that is a good sometimes difficult. I guess was 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:02.640 it tricky for you? 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:02.679 It? 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:03.560 Did they push back? 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.840 Oh? Of course they did. They were very upset with me. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.920 And then of course when they got into high school, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.000 they said they needed their iPad for homework and they 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.600 hadn't done their homework. And I had to go to 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.040 bed because I had to get up early, and so 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.640 I just had to go ahead and trust them. But yes, 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.600 they'll tell me. Oh, I stayed up till two am 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.880 watching whatever Gray's Anatomy, and I couldn't stop watching it. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.080 But you'll even see Sabine will be in a certain 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.680 mood and then she'll be on her phone and something 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.239 will happen. We don't know what. Mood will suddenly drastically 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.520 change and you see it happen and obviously it's nothing 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.120 that's around us. It's something that's happening on that phone. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.959 Oh my goodness, dad phone. Oh, I followed her. I'd 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.760 be crazy. Well, folks, that is I think the age 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.880 they're saying now is eleven is the average age. The 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.360 study says twelve is the age you certainly shouldn't at 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.599 least the information shows them you probably shouldn't give a 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.880 kid a phone before twelve. But the median age shows 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.000 that it's eleven in the country, which means that's the 0:10:59.000 --> 0:10:59.840 average a lot. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.560 Of nine year olds and we see them walking around 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.840 have those smartphones. I was like, bring the flip flip 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:06.560 phone back. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:09.719 I'm one hundred percent okay with you. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:10.600 I would love that. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:11.800 I prefer one at. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.880 Times, you know what, You're right, I do like my 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.640 Google Maps. I get lost a lot. But short of that, yes, 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:19.559 I agree. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.160 Well, folks, we told you there were several major headlines 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.640 related to kids and cell phones. Yes, one is that 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.079 Australia're going to become the first country to ban social 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.240 media for kids under the age of sixteen. We tell 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.400 you about this study now that shows that twelve is 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.440 really that sweet spot where you shouldn't give a kid 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.720 a cell phone. But there was another study this week 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.360 that showed and folks, stay here because. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.959 You are not going to believe how. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:50.360 Much people's life, moods, everything changes once they put that 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.640 phone down, and they didn't even have to put it 0:11:52.679 --> 0:12:07.360 down for that long. Stay here, all right, folks, We 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.199 continue here on Amy and TJ talking about these cell 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.959 phones these kids. This is as old, folky of an 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.640 episode as we have ever done. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.040 Back in day, get. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.000 Off my lawn. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.440 When I was a kid, did you know I didn't 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.600 talk to my mom until I got home at night. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.679 I mean, it's wild. Okay, sorry, this is uh No 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.719 matter what you do, you're gonna become your parents at 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.160 some point. This is just what happens. So yes, Australia 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.160 gonna be the first country in the world this week 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.160 to ban social media use for kids under the age 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.680 of sixteen. We got a new study from Pediatrics, the 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.640 journal Pediatrics that shows that yes, the younger a child 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.160 is before the age of twelve and getting a cell phone, 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.240 the higher their risk is for depression, anxiety, obesity, and 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.120 then roles. We got one other study. This is the 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.720 one that kind of blew my mind. And how much 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.160 we can improve our lives, just like getting off that 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.880 phone for a short time. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.400 Yes, and not even completely. This was a study published 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:08.160 in Jamma, so a very reputable organization, and they actually 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.320 had volunteers between the ages of eighteen and twenty four 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:17.959 who said, we will dramatically reduce our social media intake. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.400 So they didn't stop it completely, but they were basically 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.000 their rules were stay off social media media as much 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.320 as possible. So on average, this group that they studied 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.679 reduced their consumption of social media to just half an 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.920 hour or at least under two hours a day, which, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.960 by the way, I'm not even on it that much. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:43.480 So they reduced their social media intake to under two hours. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.720 You know what wasn't Did you see what it was before? 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.320 Good god, I know two hours. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.080 I don't know what it was before, but it must 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.720 have been significantly longer. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.600 Well, you know what they said. The volunteers were eighteen 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:53.160 to twenty four. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.200 Yes, I wonder what the average time on social media 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:57.880 per day for an eighteen to twenty four years. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.360 I should ask. I've got that exact age grew are 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.840 my daughters nineteen to twenty three? And I would guess 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:08.000 I mean, if I asked, you can find out it 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.000 is probably five hours more. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.319 I want a day a day. There's not that much 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:14.200 time in a day. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.679 Honestly, children communicate with me throughout the day before they 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.560 call TikTok videos. 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:25.720 So that tells me, damn, did she just open the door? 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.320 I wonder I want to ask. I think you can 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.440 check your front. I'm very curious to see. So, I mean, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.280 can you check to see how long you were on 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.320 TikTok and social media? 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.320 Like in several days? 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.360 She is cringing her face. She doesn't want to tell you. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:38.080 Say check for me. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.880 Just pick a couple of days and tell me how 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.680 long you were on social media, all of it and 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:41.960 the day. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.680 I'm just curious, Okay, go ahead, She'll report back. Yes. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.080 So they that's that's wild to me. That that was the 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.000 study that was them reducing it under two hours a day. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:55.560 So before they did this, they answered questions about their depression, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:02.120 their anxiety, insomnia, loneliness, just a number of different issues 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.520 that folks face when you know they're dealing with their 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.240 mental health. So the symptoms of anxiety after they took 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.880 this break dropped by more than sixteen percent. The symptoms 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.320 of depression dropped by almost twenty five percent. That is 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.080 that's remarkable. I got chills thinking about that. How many 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.040 people suffer from depression? If you just reduce your social 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.360 media intake, you could have a quarter Like that's huge, 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.920 that's amazing. A quarter percent or yeah, twenty five percent. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.640 Symptoms of insomnia drop by almost fifteen percent, and they 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.600 say the improvements that we're talking about. These numbers were 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.720 most pronounced with people who initially said they had severe depression. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.520 So the more you were depressed going into this study, 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.120 the more you were helped by taking a break from 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.600 social media. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:54.120 Soon you're talking about it sounds silly like every doctor, 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.120 everybody should that comes in right and says they're feeling 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:58.360 these anxiety or. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.120 Depression, they usually get a prescription for. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.280 What I'm saying, should are they doing? This is the 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.080 doctor's first thing out of his mouth. What are your 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.240 social media habits? 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:07.680 Doubtful? 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:08.880 Probably not doubtful? 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:09.840 Is it in there? 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.560 They'll probably ask you, what's your relationship like with your mom? 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.280 Moms always get to blame. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.800 Oh my again, it's not that episode. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:17.920 Bro. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.560 Sorry, Okay, Sabine, you're gonna have to come help me. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.800 Make sense of what I'm seeing, because I'm very disturbed 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.240 by what I'm seeing. It doesn't make any sense, sweetheart, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.160 So give me a day tell me that. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:35.400 Yeah what, Yeah, that's what I thought. Five hours. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.720 Yeah, no talk. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.800 Alone, So five hours that was my guess. I asked, 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.280 let's see this, you know. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.560 She even softened it. She says, it's like two hours. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.080 It's two hours and fifty five minutes and one day 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:53.520 on TikTok. So the total for the day was this, Yeah, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.840 five hours, says five hours of forty. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.840 Minutes, almost six hours. I'm telling you that is probably 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.320 Sabine is not any different than any other thirteen year 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.720 old terrible parents, and that is that is Also if 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.840 I checked avan anasons they aren't with me right now, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:07.800 it's probably similar. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:13.400 Oh my, see you lying TikTok alone. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.720 But then total it's almost six hours right on social 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.439 These are the totals his by the way, everyone, if 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.800 you could see TG right now, his jaw is genuinely dropped, like. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.439 These are days. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.600 That's a day for one day, that's what you're on 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:33.600 social media. Oh the phone, okay, but still that's terrible. Okay, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:34.120 she's on. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:42.479 That amazing It was like Monday, Dad, Monday, she's on 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.520 the phone for eight hours and forty eight minutes. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.200 Sweetheart, It's okay, but that's the total. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.640 Yes, okay, TikTok two hours and forty minutes that day. 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.720 Why five hours and forty minutes on TikTok on Tuesday 0:17:58.720 --> 0:17:59.440 December second? 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:06.080 Okay, will yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that Apple. You know them. 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.800 They can't get anything right on those iPhones. Stop. 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.000 Okay, how shocked are you? 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:12.000 But that's the thing. 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:13.680 I know how much she does it when you see 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.359 the numbers, And I encourage everybody if you have a 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.520 kid who has an iPhone, go to that section of 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.280 screen time and just spend a minute looking and you'll go, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.399 what the actual fuck that is insane. I don't know 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.240 how I can't find three hours in my day to 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.600 look at a social media. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:31.800 I mean, will you look on mind to see what 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.360 mine was? This is what I'm just curious, Like, I'm 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.120 just curious because I don't even know how to look. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:36.640 Oh my god. 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:38.879 Okay, So to your point, ro it's about this study 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.240 that we're talking about, you, sweetheart, This WEE could solve. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.560 It sounds like a bunch of the problems that we 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.560 are using pills to solve yes by doing simple little 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:49.359 behavioral changes. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.840 It's kind of an AHA moment because, look, I've even 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.880 had my daughter say to me, I really think I'd 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.160 like to talk to a therapist. I'm feeling anxiety, I'm 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.120 feeling depression. A lot of our girlfriends are on medications, 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.480