WEBVTT - Corey Brewer on Why His Florida Gators Would Beat Any NCAA Team Since '07, Is LeBron Recruiting Steph, and Russell Westbrook Indicts The Entire Media

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of.

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<v Speaker 2>This League, we have a special interview with former NBA player,

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<v Speaker 2>two time NCAA champion, and now skills development coach for

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<v Speaker 2>the New Orleans Pelicans.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we say their name? How do we say

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<v Speaker 1>his name? Corey Corey Brewer.

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<v Speaker 2>We also catch up on some quick news, including a

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<v Speaker 2>flock of birds that almost took down the Utah Jazz

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<v Speaker 2>Team plane. Russell Westbrook spitting facts about why the media

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<v Speaker 2>is just absolutely trash. I mean, in some ways it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>some rulers about Lebron recruiting, Steph H.

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<v Speaker 1>Scooby and tackle. Also why or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether the Pelicans are or are not trustworthy? Kind of

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<v Speaker 2>timely given that we had quarry on. So this story

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty crazy. Utah Jazz Team plane, flock of birds, collision,

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<v Speaker 2>birds dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously no birds made it out alive.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know so if I needed to highlight that,

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<v Speaker 2>but blood splattering, bird guts and flames. Marty players said

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<v Speaker 2>that there were flames. Players were letting their families know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be the end.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so terrifying, fucking terrifying. So this is the backstory.

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<v Speaker 2>Jazz Team plane took off from Salt Lake City Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>flying to Memphis twenty minutes after takeoff, thank god, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes after takeoff, by the way, not you know, two

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<v Speaker 2>hours into the plane ride, because they would have had

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<v Speaker 2>to turn around and maybe had to make an emergency landing.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Their plane struck a flock of birds, and for ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen minutes players were sending their regards to their

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<v Speaker 2>family members. Players said that they saw flames and they

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<v Speaker 2>ended up flying back to Salt Lake City, and instead

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<v Speaker 2>of Adam Silver, I'm sure the team must have called

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<v Speaker 2>the league to say, hey, we almost died here.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of of like, hey take a day. We

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<v Speaker 1>get it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're delaying lots of games due to COVID. We understand

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<v Speaker 2>there's some trauma here. Probably all of your team, all

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<v Speaker 2>of your staff must be shaken up. They said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a second plane. We need you to get on

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<v Speaker 2>it right now. John Morant is waiting. When you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it like that, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, whoa, that's wow. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So then the Jazz did go to Memphis. They got

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<v Speaker 2>on that plane except for Donovan. Mitchell was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting on that plane. I personally am good

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<v Speaker 2>on this whole plane business right the second, I am

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not going I get that. Did you know that

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<v Speaker 2>Donovan Mitchell's greatest fear on Earth is dying in a

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<v Speaker 2>plane crash.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, but that's a rational fear. I don't love

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<v Speaker 3>flying either, so I a rare instance where I will

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<v Speaker 3>feel for Donovan.

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<v Speaker 2>So Spider said that when he was getting drafted, his

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<v Speaker 2>biggest fear was taking a plane on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think about it a lot, like

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<v Speaker 3>I would not want to be on a plane as

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<v Speaker 3>much as these guys are. And I think flight attendant

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<v Speaker 3>is the worst job in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundreds of flights, like you said, thousands of miles. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I take a window seat so I can

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<v Speaker 2>clearly see everything that's going on. I e Probably saw

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<v Speaker 2>the flames, definitely saw the birds, knowing for fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>there is some shit going down in Donovan is just

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<v Speaker 2>probably face pinned to the window, like, uh, guys, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>things are happening, turbulence. He talked about his fear of

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<v Speaker 2>flying before. He said this before the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you play the clip enjoying the process, loving it?

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<v Speaker 4>I hate flying though, So that's like the big that's

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<v Speaker 4>the bad part. I'm terrified of flying. Yike's I just

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<v Speaker 4>pray and just stare out the window. I actually, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>pay extra to sit in the window seat. That's that's

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<v Speaker 4>my thing. I'll take the no leg room over the

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<v Speaker 4>windows set so I can see like where I'm going,

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<v Speaker 4>see why I'm going down and whatnot. Is cool because

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<v Speaker 4>like I know why we're going down, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the terblets kind of freaks me out.

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<v Speaker 2>I see why we're going down. Why I stand with Spider,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>No way I get on that second plane. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine disembarking and.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that there's this photo of the plane and

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<v Speaker 2>there's just blood everywhere, just covered in blood, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a rough picture, rough picture, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>no birds survive. And then you're like, okay, ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go home, relax, lay in bed, and they're like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no time to lock down. Dylan Brooks, Fuck you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out. If my greatest fear in life was dying

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<v Speaker 2>in a plane crash and one of my greatest heroes

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<v Speaker 2>in life fifteen months ago dies and a helicopter crash,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not inconceivable to think that I am Marshall.

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<v Speaker 2>We are Marshall might be in my future. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>something that hasn't ever happened before. So yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say if I am Donovan Mitchell, I'm like, yo, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Royce White. Now I am taking buses, I am taking trains.

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<v Speaker 2>I will hire my own SUV driver to take me

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<v Speaker 2>from Salt Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>To Denver to Portland to the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take one flight to get to the East coast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm taking the trains in the Northeast trips. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I am doing. I think that they should

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<v Speaker 2>just start road tripping. So the teammates people were asking like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do they feel like Donovan Mitchell didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>join his team?

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't want to join his team? Is he a good player?

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<v Speaker 1>Is a team player?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was like, no, we totally get it Donovan, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, throughout Donovan's career he's told his

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<v Speaker 2>friends and his teammates, like what his greatest fear on

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<v Speaker 2>Earth is?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time he probably pours the plane, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably got a pocket full of ambient and Xanax and

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to like make it from point A to

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<v Speaker 2>point B. Jordan Clarkson, who I love said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I understand fully why don didn't come. All of us

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<v Speaker 2>were here in limbo. This is something that we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to push through and get over it. This is just

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<v Speaker 2>a tough situation. I don't think that's happened many times

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<v Speaker 2>on a plane ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>So many of my friends in the league and they

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<v Speaker 2>said that's their greatest fear as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not know how long it's gonna be until

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<v Speaker 2>Donovan Mitchell gets back on a plane.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I have similar feelings to how Donovan Mitchell

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<v Speaker 3>feels about flying, Like I don't really think about it

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<v Speaker 3>until I'm like on and we're about to take off,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, oh, like as a numbers guy, like statistically,

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<v Speaker 3>like I know there's not really one in eleven million, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're still flying through the air in like a tube,

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<v Speaker 3>so like it isn't It can be uncomfortable for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>And then to get that close to your worst nightmare

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<v Speaker 3>coming true, like and then ask to get on a

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<v Speaker 3>plane minutes later, Yeah, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be interesting to watch whether he goes

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<v Speaker 2>there's a back to back home stand and then they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna end up going. I forget where they go next.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see if he gets on that plane. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>when he gets on the plane. I promise you there's

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<v Speaker 2>more to come on this story. I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are not familiar with this song, represents it

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<v Speaker 1>represents one.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not, mister Russell Westbrook, we have a developing situation

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<v Speaker 2>on our hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Marty Woo woo.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a love I don't know if a love

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<v Speaker 2>triangle is the right way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a triangle between steven A.

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Westbrook, and Russell Westbrook's wife. This is what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen A did what steven A always does, which is

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<v Speaker 2>come at Russ's neck for no reason at all. So

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<v Speaker 2>Russ had an incredible night.

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<v Speaker 1>It was what it was thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four teen and twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>So three things were happening simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>One Russ had himself that night right right thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen twenty one, good lord, and everybody was just celebrating Russ.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had a lot of those nights actually, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>this season, in fifty games, he is now the franchise

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<v Speaker 2>leader of triple doubles on the Wizards.

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<v Speaker 1>In fifty games. He now leads the franchise.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever, I think he was I think he became only

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<v Speaker 3>the third player to have a thirty point twenty assists

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<v Speaker 3>night behind it was him magic and someone else I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, exactly, Yeah, so that happened, and then steven A,

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<v Speaker 2>like steven A always does, has to comment on it. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And because Russell Westbrook appreciation segments, as you might know

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<v Speaker 2>from our social clips, don't exactly move the needle, he decided, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's good, but I'm gonna actually use this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>slander Russ and discredit and diminish Russ. And why he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't wont to ring because all he is is a

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<v Speaker 2>professional stat getter. He's this, he's that like, not a

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<v Speaker 2>team guy. He's surrounded by all this flowery praise. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, Steve and A is gonna give him

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<v Speaker 2>a stick, stick stick play the clip.

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<v Speaker 5>Russell Westbrook went off last night.

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<v Speaker 6>We all know that a trip will double thirty five

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<v Speaker 6>points fourteen boys twenty one.

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<v Speaker 7>It says fourteen to twenty six shoot from the floor

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<v Speaker 7>four six from three point rates.

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<v Speaker 8>And he did it all without Bradley Bailey uniform. And

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<v Speaker 8>he is about the amazing part about Westbrook's game last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a damn how about any of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the Wizards just are not very good. They're not

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<v Speaker 5>going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>You're seventeen to twenty eight in the Eastick Conference. From

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<v Speaker 3>crying out loud.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is far from the first time Russell Westbrook

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<v Speaker 6>has played on a team that is falling short.

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<v Speaker 5>He's had talent along his entire career.

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<v Speaker 6>James Harden, Paul George, James Harden again, Victor all.

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<v Speaker 8>The Depot, Bradley Belly, where's the chip.

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<v Speaker 5>To show for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my lord, Okay, I mean I'm yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>like cool, like fine. So then Nina I believe her

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<v Speaker 2>name is Westbrook, Russell Westbrook's wife takes that opportunity to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck enough of Steven a going out my husband. Please stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give a suggest to what she said?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so she sent out? Uh so, how tiring is

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<v Speaker 3>it to be minding your own business and have notifications

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<v Speaker 3>pop up on your phone about people being negative and

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<v Speaker 3>hating on your family? Yeah, there are several things wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with what Stephen A. Smith says here, and she went

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<v Speaker 3>on to say Russell is the happiest he's ever been.

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<v Speaker 3>Not having a championship does not quote hurt him a lot. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know nothing about him. If you did, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that he is way, way more than a championship. He

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<v Speaker 3>is a champion of life, a champion of his people.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't care about your championship and certainly not your opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>And then meanwhile, the NCAA tournament is going on, right

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got kids missing free throws, and these kids

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<v Speaker 2>are getting death threats. You've got commentators saying all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of wild things.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect storm.

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<v Speaker 2>In one instance, Russ is bawling out while the NCAA

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<v Speaker 2>tournament is going on. And I think Steve and I

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<v Speaker 2>has been talking about Russ since he was at UCLA.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, so Russ, I think has this timing

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<v Speaker 2>could not have been worse or better. Where he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it to directly respond not only to what stephn A

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<v Speaker 2>had to say, but also about the media as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>and really wanted to illuminate how what we say in

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<v Speaker 2>the media can affect that person's life and their brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what Russ had to say.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I watched these college games, and I'll watch

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<v Speaker 6>these kids and these announcers. Man, they get on the

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<v Speaker 6>TV and just say anything about a kid. They don't

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<v Speaker 6>even know him. They don't know his family, they don't

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<v Speaker 6>know where he's from, they don't know what he's been through,

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<v Speaker 6>they don't know his struggles, they don't know his pain.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't know anything about the kid. But one thing

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<v Speaker 6>said on TV can determine how you perceive this kid

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<v Speaker 6>on TV, which will allow him not to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to reach his goals. What you will allow him not to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to get drafted, which will allow him not

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<v Speaker 6>to take care of his family, which will now not

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<v Speaker 6>create generational wealth. Like I said before, a championship don't

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<v Speaker 6>don't change my life.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a champion once I made it to the NBA,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I grew up in the streets. I'm a champion.

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody can I don't have to be an NBA champion.

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<v Speaker 6>I know many people that got NBA champions that's miserable,

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<v Speaker 6>have done nothing for their community, have done nothing for you, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Spitting facts the people.

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<v Speaker 2>On the recent episode of Brian Windhorse's pod, Mark Spears

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about how he asked Alan Iverson. Why Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Iverson is not in the media, why he's not on

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<v Speaker 2>the jump. Alan Irison said, my entire career, the media

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<v Speaker 2>did everything that they could to lift me up, just

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<v Speaker 2>to break me and pull me down. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say negative things about other players, and if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the media, I have to. And I think that's true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the media always has had.

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<v Speaker 1>Trouble balancing that. I have trouble balancing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's a line you have to walk,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking your opinion without bringing someone down and damaging their reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see that there are players who are great Kadi, Kyrie, Harden,

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<v Speaker 2>Russ all happened to have played with one another at

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<v Speaker 2>certain points in times. These players are distrustful and prickly

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<v Speaker 2>to the media for a reason. Kyrie is a cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's considered a cancer that is stuck around with him.

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<v Speaker 2>You hate personally hate Kyrie for his zodiac stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>he does in his sage burn he beats to his.

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<v Speaker 3>Own drum and more of the abandoning his team in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the season multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>More to do with that Kevin Durant and him going

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<v Speaker 2>to the Warriors, and that has changed his narrative. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got James Harden and him being selfish, and Russ has

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<v Speaker 2>been painted with being selfish. These players have been painted

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that they're teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we talk about with Corey Brewer, who will be

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<v Speaker 1>on later.

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<v Speaker 2>On in the show, that these things aren't necessarily true,

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<v Speaker 2>but the media says what they say, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like a dead carcass, you just drag it around

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<v Speaker 2>for the whole rest of your career. And it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because the business of commentating is that stephen A, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what stephen A said like that was interesting as

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<v Speaker 2>hell to listen to right the way he said it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give it.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn. I'm the first to admitted I don't love what

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<v Speaker 3>he says, but I love.

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<v Speaker 2>That the drama we are paid to entertain. And there

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing less entertaining than saying, Russell Westbrook's very good

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<v Speaker 2>at basketball. You know, I think the world kind of

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<v Speaker 2>already knows that there always needs to be a why,

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<v Speaker 2>There always needs to be some level of context that

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<v Speaker 2>things need to get put into.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So Russell Westbrook does X.

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<v Speaker 2>On a random Tuesday, What does that actually mean for

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<v Speaker 2>US viewers? Does that mean that he's closer to getting

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<v Speaker 2>what this whole thing is. For the whole reason that

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<v Speaker 2>they play these games, the whole reason, let me back up,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole reason we say that they're playing these games

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<v Speaker 2>is to win a championship. The whole reason that the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA holds these games is to go and.

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<v Speaker 1>Search for a championship. The reason that Russell Westbrook plays

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<v Speaker 1>basketball may not be just to win a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>It may be, like Harden said, he talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>when he went to the Rockets, is to make generational

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<v Speaker 2>wealth so that they can help feed their families and

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<v Speaker 2>take care of their community for generations to come, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of whether they win a ring or not. We though,

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<v Speaker 2>want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what is it about Russell Westbrook? He has all

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<v Speaker 1>these stats? Is he a leader? Is he not a leader?

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<v Speaker 2>What is he thinking when he gets out on the

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<v Speaker 2>court and he makes these decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see him shrug off that journalist Marty? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he like that to his teammates?

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<v Speaker 2>Like we just make all these things up because we

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<v Speaker 2>have to find something for someone to want to listen to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>on a day today, basis right? And also like, how

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<v Speaker 2>does this connect to the future? What does that mean

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<v Speaker 2>about the past? What does this mean in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>his legacy around all of his contemporaries in history. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the formula past future, historical legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>What can we make sense of this one performance and

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<v Speaker 1>make it into something greater?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why Stephen A says what he says. This

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<v Speaker 2>is why I say what I say, Like, you take

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<v Speaker 2>one incident and then you extrapolate it forward. I just

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<v Speaker 2>did it. Is Donovan Mitchell ever going to fly a

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<v Speaker 2>plane again? That's like what I said, Right, How many

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<v Speaker 2>times can I say Russell Westbrook is really fucking good

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<v Speaker 2>at basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>But then it's like, oh, well, can he lead? Can

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<v Speaker 1>he get a championship? Can he do this? Can he

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<v Speaker 1>do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants to know, Like, hey, Russell Westbrook donated two

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<v Speaker 2>point five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>To build a school. It's like, this is the basketball show.

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<v Speaker 2>I came here to learn about what's happening around the league,

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<v Speaker 2>not all of these things that he's doing to impact.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's unfair, but that's I think the way that

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Our brains are wired to do this, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is the business that we are in, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a symbiotic relationship by the way, if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>for Stephen a promoting the league, getting people excited to

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<v Speaker 2>watch and hate watch Russell Westbrook on a day to

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<v Speaker 2>day basis, Russell Westbrook doesn't make two hundred and five

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars in making multi generational wealth. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>certain point where that damage and that reputation is also

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<v Speaker 2>what fuels the generational wealth. So I don't think this

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<v Speaker 2>is changing. I think when Russell Westbrook has twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>assists in a game, maybe time to.

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<v Speaker 1>Heap a little praise.

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<v Speaker 3>You can celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can celebrate that. That's fucking crazy to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that in a game. Damian Lillard had ten

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<v Speaker 2>assists in a quarter the other night, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>immediately thought to myself, this man might have forty assists

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<v Speaker 2>if you extra can you imagine? That's the reason though,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you find one players extremely distrustful. What

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna do with this interview? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do with this time with me? How are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to shape this and make me look two? I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's why you have Uninterrupted, You've got a players.

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<v Speaker 1>Tribune, Sue Bird has a new media company.

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<v Speaker 2>There are players who are now saying JJ there and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about him a little later in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and that say, you know what, I'm just gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>control of how I'm perceived. I'm gonna take control of

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<v Speaker 2>not only how I am perceived, but how my crew

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<v Speaker 2>is perceived. We're gonna put our own content on our

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<v Speaker 2>own timeline how we want.

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<v Speaker 1>The world to see us.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want the media to be the only ones

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<v Speaker 2>responsible how we're seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fucking dope. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We also still need people like steven A to stir

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<v Speaker 2>up the pot a little bit and.

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<v Speaker 3>Give them stuff to talk about on their podcast, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Give them stuff to talk about on their podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>also give people a reason to watch Russell Westbrook.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's an ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Business, and like I said, I don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>anyway anytime soon, especially with social media and Twitter specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>it might actually get worse this week. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of news I need, Marty in my life, the news.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just so far from happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's almost impossible, but still very very fun

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<v Speaker 2>to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a long running rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow like some type of connection where like when Steph succeeds,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone talks about Braun, and when Bron succeeds, everyone talks

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<v Speaker 2>about it's Steph. There's a comparison that happens between them

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<v Speaker 2>and their MVPs, and I don't know what it is, really,

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<v Speaker 2>but it exists, and it's almost has been pulling them

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<v Speaker 2>apart right from one another. Lebron has said some things

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<v Speaker 2>about Steph. Steph has said some things about Braun. We

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<v Speaker 2>won't get into all that, but you can just do

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<v Speaker 2>some googling, and you know they've they've said some shady

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<v Speaker 2>ass shit about one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, discrediting one another.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you play in four finals against each other,

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<v Speaker 3>It's there's there's gonna be some feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>But to see Lebron James take Steph Curry on his

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<v Speaker 2>All Star team and to watch them play together, the

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<v Speaker 2>joy that they had with one another, I immediately thought to myself, Marty,

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<v Speaker 2>what would it be? What would a team look like

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<v Speaker 2>with Braun and with Steph? Could they be the duo

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<v Speaker 2>the like a duo that they don't need another All Star?

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<v Speaker 2>Could they win a title together? That's immediately where my

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<v Speaker 2>mind went. Is that where your mind went?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, Like, you think to yourself, what could

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<v Speaker 2>that be? Remember when Kyrie and Kad were on the

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<v Speaker 2>court during All Star Game last year together, everybody's like

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<v Speaker 2>or two years ago, everybody's like, oh yeah, what are

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<v Speaker 2>they saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they want to go and play again? And they did,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't they?

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<v Speaker 2>So now the news is bubbling up. Brian Winhorse the

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James follower of sorts. He made his living following

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James around when he was like sixteen years old

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<v Speaker 2>and now he's the guy. He had a podcast come out,

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<v Speaker 2>same podcast with Mark Spear and Nick Fredell, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said there was some possibility that Lebron James is recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry. Here is what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 7>Lebron thinks there's some doubt. Otherwise he wouldn't be doing

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<v Speaker 7>this because I know he feels a certain way about

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<v Speaker 7>Steph because I watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, what do you mean.

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<v Speaker 5>You think Lebron thinks he may leave?

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron started recruiting with the All Star Yeah, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he feels a certain kind of way about Steph.

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<v Speaker 1>When he says that, he means a negative way about Steph.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep going.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not going to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not not right now, He's not gonna leave everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>So fine, he gets a lot of time to I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just I'm just saying step is eligible for contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>Hasn't signed it yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Just happened.

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<v Speaker 7>Just to be clear, Steph, step is eligible for contract

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<v Speaker 7>extension this summer, has it signed. Lebron started recruiting him

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<v Speaker 7>a All Star.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but he might be playing for somebody else and

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<v Speaker 6>once the next contract.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, listen, man, I'm not I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just stating im.

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<v Speaker 5>With the Lakers, he might to New York. The point,

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<v Speaker 5>The point is well taken.

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<v Speaker 9>You're going, yes, Please tell me more about this, Please

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<v Speaker 9>tell me more about how there's a possibility we could

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<v Speaker 9>see Steph Curry and Lebron James in the same jersey together.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, of course, Mark Speer, of course, Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Fodell are gonna poop poo this. They cover the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Golden State Warriors on a night to night basis. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think they in their mind could ever conceive of

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation where Steph Curry spurns the Golden State

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors and bounces Absolutely not. No, Yes, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably point zero zero zero zero zero one percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance that that happens. But all I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is imagine a world where that is the case. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think it would look like.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they'd win a lot of basketball games. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't love it. I don't know. I just I'd rather

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<v Speaker 3>see them play against each other. I am a little

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<v Speaker 3>old fashioned that I wouldn't love it. But the product

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<v Speaker 3>would be something dep tremendous, something truly to be he.

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<v Speaker 2>Just imagine one these two guys enjoy the game physically

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<v Speaker 2>out out there for the world to see. Right, Remember

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 2>when Steph Curry did his little shimmy shimmy and he

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of squatted pretendity pooped on the court. Oh yeah,

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and Braun doing the things that Broun does when.

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like feeling it.

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<v Speaker 2>Them two together, hyping each other up would be insufferable.

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<v Speaker 2>For one second of all, they would be shitting on

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the league.

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Braun playing the point, Steph coming off ball. Just that duo.

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Just imagine it for a second, Steph running around doing

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Steph things and Lebron no look passing, Steph cutting to

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 2>the lane.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my lord.

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<v Speaker 2>The ratings, Marty, the ratings NBA wet dream in terms

0:24:56.119 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 2>of ratings on Tuesday night on a Wednesday, any time,

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 2>I would watch every even on the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>I would watch every single Laker game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know what the record for national TV games,

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<v Speaker 3>but they would break it.

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>They would break it. I mean every single game would

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<v Speaker 1>be nationally televized.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, why do you think it would be like

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<v Speaker 2>if in terms of like who wins the trade?

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<v Speaker 1>Ad for Steph straight up?

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh uh? I mean eighty's younger. Uh, but Steph's gonna

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 3>be able to do what he does for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That's actually very interesting. I would I

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 3>don't know, they already won with AD, so I would say,

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 3>let's let's just keep rolling with this.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Imagine Steph Curry signs a MAX deal with the Warriors

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>two years from now. He's like, this is not you

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 2>guys like big men way too much. Who wins the trade?

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a d and Clay Wiseman, Draymond. I don't know

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>who else is there at the time. They'll have Minnesota's

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<v Speaker 2>pick if it's not number four or if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>three year below, and Steph's like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out I think like both teams get better, you do,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean get better for me in my mind?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know I would kind of. I don't love

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Ad Wiseman playing together.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't love that guys ship Wiseman the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, it just is so enticing to me.

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time after that All Star Game because

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Bron was just like hyping stuff up.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Shoot from half court, Steph, shoot from half court.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine all the shit he would get Steph

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<v Speaker 2>to do on a night to night basis, just like

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>pumping up like his fucking hype man got Lebron James

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the hype man, Steph Curry the hypeman. Oh my god,

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I know the Embers are just gonna keep keep burning

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>until Steph signs that contract.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Though, I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you hear how giddy Windhorse was when he was

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>delivering that news.

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he had a little uh yeah, you could hear

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 3>it in his voice. For sure.

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>That is the duo we all except for you, Marty.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to see there's a little Laker cleanup though to do. Also,

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>following the Drummond to La news, did you hear this

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Dennis Shrewder first of all, Dennis fucking Shrewder offered twenty

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 2>one million dollars per year and did not say yes please,

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>He said no thanks, he said no thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Who the fuck is Dennis Shrewder think he is?

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a shitload of money, and that's certainly

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's yeah, that was that was very bizarre.

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Think he's Kyle Dennis Shruter thinks he's Kyle Lowry.

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>He thinks he should.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Twenty four twenty five million dollars.

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, you can't go too much

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 3>further up from that until you get to the max.

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 3>He's not a max player, So he's.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Not a max player.

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Like if you look at guys who are making in

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>that twenty four twenty five million dollar range. Shit, I

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 2>thought Dennis Shruder was in the Alonzo range and he

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 2>got offered he gets paid the Lonzo range right now. Yeah,

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and he says no to twenty one million dollars.

0:27:58.200 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>It seems like he's got them over the barrel because

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of news saying like, oh, Lakers think

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>that Truder's the future. The point guards. They need to

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 2>lock him up. They're offering him an extension now they

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 2>want it to get done. Blah blah blah.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Like, is Dennis Shrewder better than we think he is?

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they're thinking the CAP's gonna go up? Maybe, I mean,

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 3>but like that's, uh, that's pretty big gamble. So eighty

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 3>four million dollar gamble after a pandemic. Yeah, I don't know.

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>They're already paying Brahm the max, are paying a d

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the max. You give Shrewd to that money, what.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Are they doing twenty Like, imagine a team offers him

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty four twenty eight million. At some point you got

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to figure out, Like, he's too expensive, man, he's too expensive.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Also other news, the Lakers have a plethora of centers.

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I know that Andre Drummond went down with a toe

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>toenail injury.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I know that sounds funny, but I'm sure it hurts

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 2>They they heard a lot toenail injury has sidelined him.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>But they have Montrez Harald, They've got Andre Drummond, and

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>they've got Mark Gasol, and then they have a d

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>who likes to play for but he probably will play

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>five in the playoffs when he comes back, so it

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>sounds like one too many centers they've asked him. They

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>asked Frank Vogel whether they were going to waive or

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>buy out Mark Gasol, and he said, we have not

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about that. But he did not say no. He

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>just said, we haven't spoken about that just yet. Doesn't

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 2>hurt to have a veteran big man in your pocket.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>He's very smart, can pass, gives you lineup flexibility in

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>case you need a guy like Mark Gasol to play

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>make say Dennis Schruder goes down or something happens. What

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 2>do you think do you think that they keep him?

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know, he would get swooped up.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I would imagine that there's got to be a guy

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 3>a team that can use a backup big like that.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if you release him, then you

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 3>risk like Phoenix or some one like.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think you got

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a player who's definitely washed, but skilled, great locker room guy.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>We know that, And what like are we doing here?

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Genie Bus has the money, Just pay the luxury tax,

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 2>just pay out it out. Let Lebron have another good

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>locker room guy and keep other contending teams from getting

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 2>a big man that they might need in the heart

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>of the city.

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no love in the heart of the NBA.

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like, ain't no love in the heart of

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the big easy.

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>No, no new news coming out, Marty.

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yikes, we've been hearing about guys so happy with their

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 2>new teams.

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Vouch.

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>It's happy in Chicago, Fournier Hornier for Fournier In Boston.

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Forty players traded, most of them happy to be in

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a new situation. One player not happy about how the

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 2>trade went down. A man with a man's a platform,

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>a man who is a shooting specialist with his own podcast,

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>took to the streets to air out the New Orleans

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Pelicans and their business about how they handled him all

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking season.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear any of this?

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, I watched it.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay. So here's here's the deal.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>On the last episode of The Old Men in the

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>three podcasts, JJ Reddick went ham about how he felt

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>like the Pelicans fucked him over and lied to his face.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Here is the timeline. He made a trade request in November.

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 2>As you remember, late start. December twenty second was when

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>the season started, so.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 3>He asked for the trade.

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Still the off season, he asked for trade.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 2>He saw the writing on the wall with Van Gundy

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>that he was not going to get enough touches, and

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>he was like, Yo, David Griffin and the GM Langdon

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>who's also a fell dookie, he said, Yo, I don't

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>want my family to leave Brooklyn. I don't really want

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to leave Brooklyn either because of the pandemic. I don't

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 2>want to move them and deal with this. And they're

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>they're settled, they're sheltering in place.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>If you will.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>And Griffin said to JJ, like, just come down for

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>a month, like if you like it, like you're good.

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>If you still want out, I give you my word.

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>We will get you to a situation that you like.

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>And Reddick was like, he obviously did not honor his

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 2>word because I told him I wanted to be in

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>any city that on my off day I could take

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.719
<v Speaker 2>a train or a bus to see my family.

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be in Brooklyn.

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>I know that that's unfair, but just trade me anywhere, DC, Philly, Nix,

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>anywhere that I can drive to see my family in

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>an off day.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>So he was like, I look at the buyout situation

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>not as like, Oh, I'm gonna go get bought and

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 2>go to Brooklyn. I just want to be able to

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>see my family and be in driving distance. He then

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>explained why he was so fucking pissed in detail. He said,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>why this is crazy?

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Why should any player trust this organization at all?

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're gonna get honesty from that front

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>office objectively speaking, and that's not an opinion. I just

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think you're going to get that. And here's where

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>it gets really real.

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think what happened with me is necessarily an

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>isolated incident.

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I think front offices around the league operate in their

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>best interest and I get that.

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I understand that, truthfully, I do.

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I was a little naive though, thinking I

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>was in year fifteen, attempting to do things the right

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>way throughout my career. But in terms of this front office, yeah,

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not something where I would expect the agents who

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 2>worked on this with me to ever trust that front

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>office again. And he ended up in Dallas where he

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 2>did not, which is, by the way, in driving distance

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>of Brooklyn. Unless you're Damnard Mitchell.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>He said he was.

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Jarred by the trade and told Mark Cubanot In any

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 2>other year, I would be so thrilled to be here,

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>but I.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Need to see my family.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 2>So basically, he was promised after a month he'd be

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>able to go where he wanted to go, and he

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>just never got there.

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Interestingly enough, did a little research JJ Reddick's agent. It's

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>the same agent that represents Zion Williamson.

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that there's tea coming along the bend

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 2>down the bend, but I don't think it was a

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:42.479
<v Speaker 2>coincidence that he made it so stark that I don't

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>think my agents will ever trust this office again.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 2>That just goes to show you, maybe don't fuck over

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen year old veteran with a megaphone of a podcast.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>He's been interviewing everyone.

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he interviewed on the other.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Day, this person not. You don't think there's.

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Always an in between period where you're not quite recording,

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>but you're not quite not talking about the thing. I'm

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>thinking maybe during those times he's going to sewer New

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Orleans if he has the opportunity, like, fuck ne Orleans,

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 2>by the way, fuck New Orleans. They ask him. It's

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>really gonna be interesting to see how this is gonna

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>affect the Pels going forward.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that it makes any difference.

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.439
<v Speaker 3>For them moving forward? I mean, lucky for them, they've

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 3>got four to five years to mend that relationship with

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Zion because he's stuck there until then. H But this

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 3>is very bizarre and I don't really even get it,

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Like why why would Griffin give him his word if

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 3>they had no interest in doing that, Because you could

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 3>just say, like, no, you're making twelve million dollars and

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 3>you're in year fifteen and you're having the worst year

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 3>of your career. No, Like, I can't make a decision

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 3>on my roster based on what you're asking. That would

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 3>be I think a reasonable thing to say. But or

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 3>just buy him out or yeah right, yeah exactly. And

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 3>then but then to just come say, hey, we're gonna

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 3>trade you. He traded them to Dallas for chips? Yeah

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>for nothing? Yeah it really Yeah No, it was a

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 3>week move by Griffin. I don't really get it. I

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't understand the advantage that he got from

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 3>it at all.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Me neither. Up next is an interview with Corey Brewer.

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Corey Brewer today on this league, we have a very

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>special guest. Two time NC double A champion, probably on

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the best most dominant NC double A teams

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of all time. I would say, h fourteen year vet

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>responsible for killing the Clippers title hopes. Now it skills

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 2>development coach with the New Orleans Pelicans.

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Corey Brewer, thank you for joining us, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me.

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember me?

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 5>Are you looking so familiar? And I'm like, I know,

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 5>why do I know?

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 8>So?

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Marty, I'm gonna tell you this story about how me

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>and Corey first met. I was working for USA Today

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>at the time, and I was just a little baby

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 2>in the media space. I was just trying to do

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 2>my thing, just trying to make moves and like be

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>unique and be different, right And USA Today is one

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 2>of those places where it's like you kind of have

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to try to drive news, but I was not about that.

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And and Corey was with Covey.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 2>They were both in the LA offices of USA Today.

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>He was with Robert Covington, another one of my favorite players,

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and I was doing I think we were doing an interview.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>But I was doing some push a push up challenge.

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Does any of this ringing a bell?

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>So, so we do this whole thing, and somehow it

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>comes up.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>This is so stupid. So it comes up.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I tell Corey and Covey I have hops and these guys.

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>These guys are like, I don't think you can touch

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>that exit sign on the ceiling, and I'm like, yes,

0:37:59.040 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I can.

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm certain that I can. And Corey's like.

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that you can, and for whatever reason

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 2>me as me that I am.

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I'm gonna show you that.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I I know that you guys can dunk, but I

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 2>really want to show you my vert like.

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>So I asked Cory, I say, can I take a

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>running start? He's like, yeah, sure. At this point, I'm

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty certain he does not think.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Which is making me more aggressively wanting to touch this

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 2>exit sign. So I run and I slap because you know,

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm gonna like barely touch it

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 2>with my fingers or what I needed to touch it,

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and I ended up touching it in the middle of

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 2>the hand.

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>The exit sign falls down, boom, crash, hits me in

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the face.

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 8>I fall.

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 5>Because it had.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And it did not go at all the way that

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I plan.

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And Corey's PR person was a woman she was pumped

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.240
<v Speaker 2>that I ended up doing it. Everybody was a little

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 2>concerned whether I was going to touch it because there

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of build up and lead up to this,

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't know if you would remember that. But

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>how crazy when you when this happened, Corey, were you

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>thinking to yourself, like, what the fuck am I it's happening.

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 5>I was like, she really just broke the exercise.

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Like I think now back to it, and it's like

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>this five to five journalist is really trying to show

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 2>her hops to me, like.

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Ball is life. Man.

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't even know why I did it. I

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 2>just I don't even know why I was trying to

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>flex like that. It was just the all time Trista move.

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it sounds like you had the hops though

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I did have the hops, had to had to show

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:53.240
<v Speaker 2>I was also an athlete.

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I said before, you.

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Were on one of the most dominant NC double A

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 2>teams in at least my memory, right, you would you

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 2>would say that that's that.

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Back to back. I went to Oregon, so that was

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>a that Elite eight hurt.

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, we had to all the way.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I had to take us out along the way.

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I think you guys had upwards of ten pro players

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 2>on that roster.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 8>Oh man, we had at least fixed.

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 1>For sure, and that's some international pros.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we had some guys to play overseas. Yeah, we

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 8>had a lot of guys to play pro basketballs.

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>That's wild.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Six NBA guys, four international players.

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.439
<v Speaker 1>It was one and done. Super popular then too.

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 2>But you guys decided to come back and take me

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 2>through that decision, why you guys decided to do it

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and how you came to that kind of conclusion.

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 8>It was a thing that me, Jo Kim, Al and

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 8>Twining Green, we all came together. So our freshman year

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 8>we were roommates and we just instantly became like best friends.

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 8>Like all four of us, we were always together. We

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 8>did everything together. We were always in the gym, playing

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 8>one on one, playing two on two. We just loved

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 8>to play basketball. We also just like we loved each other,

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 8>like we had a blast together, and it was just

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 8>one of those things like it was just chemistry instantly.

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 8>So you know, we had David Lee, Matt Walsh, and

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 8>Anthony Robish in our freshman year and me and Al started,

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:36.959
<v Speaker 8>but Joe Kim and Joe Kim really didn't. He didn't

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 8>even play, and to came it was crazy and Tourying

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 8>came off the bench. But the next year it was

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 8>like it was our time. Like those guys went pro,

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 8>and it's like it's our team. Like we're all roommates,

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 8>we're together every day. Now we're all we're going to start.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 8>And then I got Lee Humphrey. That was that was

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 8>my man. He's from Tennessee. Also on from Tennessee. We

0:41:58.000 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 8>had been knowing each other for a long time. We

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 8>played on the same May You team, so me and

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 8>Lee was pretty close. So like I was hype. I'm like, yo,

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 8>this is us, Like this is our five, Like we

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 8>got a chance, like and nobody gave.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 5>Us a chance.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 8>We were ranked like seventy fifth the beginning of the year.

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 8>So but we still believe in ourselves. So we started

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 8>off seventeen and old. We had a little hiccup, but

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 8>then we we end up winning the championship. So you know,

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 8>everybody's expecting us to go to the draft for sure.

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 8>You know, after you win the championship, you know our

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 8>stock was high. It's like really hot. We're all gonna

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 8>be a lot of your picks. That's what they were saying.

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Joe Kim was probably gonna be the first pick.

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.319
<v Speaker 5>Definitely number one. Griani doesn't go number one if we

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 5>come out in a show number one.

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 8>But it was one of those things where you know

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 8>where you're having so much fun, it's like you don't

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 8>want it to end. We really didn't want it to end,

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 8>like we were having that much fun. Like it was

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 8>like just everything was perfect, Like we love the game,

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 8>we see each other every day, we're winning, like we're

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 8>at the University of Water, like amazing campus football teams

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 8>winning Like every.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 5>Day is a great day you wake up.

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 8>So so after we wanted we all went home to

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 8>like see our families and we were trying to make

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.439
<v Speaker 8>a decision. And you know me personally, I went home

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 8>and my dad was like, you don't have to go

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 8>to the NBA about It's not about the money. It's

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 8>not about us. Like we're we're fine. Like my parents

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 8>were older, so my parents were in their sixties at

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.439
<v Speaker 8>the time. They were like, We've lived our whole life.

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 8>This is all about your life. It's about what makes

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 8>you happy. So for me, when I went back to school,

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 8>I kind of I was like I want to stay

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 8>in school, like I'm having so much fun. Don't get

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 8>me wrong, the NBA. I want to I want to

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 8>play in the NBA's dream come true. But you can

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 8>only go to college one time. Once you leave college,

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 8>it's over, Like you can't just go back like now,

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 8>I guess gods can test the water back then it

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:51.720
<v Speaker 8>was like you're the winner.

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 5>You're didn't. So when I.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Got back, I was kind of like leanings like I

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 8>wanted to come back, and then I feel like Al

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 8>was kind of LENINGX was going and Joe was more like, yo,

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 8>if we're if we're coming back, we're all coming back.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 5>One of us come back. We're all coming back. So

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 5>after talking, we kind of decided like, man, we're having.

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 8>Too much fun. We can only do this one time, Like,

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 8>let's do it again, Let's let's go one more time.

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 8>Let's let's let's see if we can went back to back,

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 8>and we finally made the decision like let's do it.

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 8>We're coming back to school, and it's a great decision.

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 3>That's dope.

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>How do you think you guys, you guys were all roommates.

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 2>How do you think that changes the on court chemistry?

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 8>Oh, it definitely It helps a lot when you're with

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 8>somebody every day.

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 5>You live with guys. Me and Al have a bunch

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 5>of the same.

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 8>Classes, Like we were just always together, so you kind

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 8>of like you really know those guys. You know their tendencies,

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 8>you know what bothers them, you know what makes them happy.

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 8>It's just one of those things. So you just get

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 8>to really learn their personalities. I feel like that's the

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 8>biggest thing. Really knew each other's personality. So when we

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 8>got on the court, you kind of you know how

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 8>to push your guy's buttons to get him to play harder,

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 8>to get him to do something.

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Next year, Hey, y'all, did that big like announcement in

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 3>the arena when you decided to come back to three

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 3>of y'all? What was that like? Cause you gotta you

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 3>had to have gone into that situation knowing I'm never

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 3>going to own a room quite like this ever again.

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 5>In my life.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 3>So what was the build up to that?

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it was amazing.

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 8>It was so many people there, like he has to

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 8>be like, the whole Old Dome was like packed.

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 5>It was like a game against Kentucky or something. It

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 5>was packed. So everybody was just happy their height. We

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 5>just won.

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 8>We had the trophy there, like everybody wants to know,

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 8>like what are they gonna do? Like you said, we

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 8>got the whole room all eyes on us, and you

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 8>know we said we were coming back. Everybody just goes crazy.

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 8>It's like a moment you're never gonna forget.

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then t bet Swagger Jackie a couple of

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 3>years later.

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know we did it first, just kings on

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 2>campus just like a victory tour, like a float and

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 2>entire next year to go back to back. When you

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 2>watch March Madness, now, if it was me, I would

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>be comparing my team to every March Madness run that

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 2>there is, right, Like I wonder how our team would

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>stack up against this national title team?

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you do that?

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 5>For sure?

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 8>If you're watching the games, you're like, who's gonna win

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 8>it all? Like could they could they beat us? Like no,

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.240
<v Speaker 8>there's no way they could beat us, Like just thinking

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 8>them back, just looking at all the teams, like over

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.760
<v Speaker 8>the years, I've been doing it for years, like always come.

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 5>To the conclusion like they couldn't beat us.

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>You don't think since since seven any national champion would

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 2>have beaten you guys.

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 8>No way, I guess I's been some really good teams,

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.439
<v Speaker 8>don't get me wrong, Like even if the Kentucky team

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 8>with Anthony Davis was really good, Like, but it's just

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 8>like there's no team that could beat us because we

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 8>had everything. We had all five positions, Like I don't

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.800
<v Speaker 8>really look at a team like has all five positions.

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:10.800
<v Speaker 8>And definitely there's no two bigs, like two bigs together

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 8>that was better than our two boats.

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>That's facts. You believe that, Marty. Do you think that's true.

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 3>That no team since then?

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 8>Uh?

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I can't really think of when. This

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Gonzaga team this year is fuck it. They can ball,

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 3>so I don't know if they may.

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, though.

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Man, they're not built like I wouldn't put put them

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 3>up against them at all.

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>No, we're not built like that.

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 2>There's I mean, it's Gonzaga, sure, sure, I mean enough

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 2>set about Gonzaga, like no shot to the Pacific Northwest

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>where I'm from. But like those Florida boys and a

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>bunch of friends that are living together, I mean, you

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 2>guys were hard rocks.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Joe kiem Noo is a fucking hard rock.

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 5>Oh for sure. Nobody's playing harder than that's for sure.

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, him swimm doing his swimming thing when he runs.

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 2>You said that Georgetown and Jeff with Jeff Green and

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Roy Hibbert were Florida's biggest test, right.

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>We were just year.

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 8>They gave us the biggest problem because they slowed the

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 8>game down. We like to play fast and we were

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 8>getting up shot shooting a lot of threes. They slowed

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 8>it down and they gave us some trouble and it

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.359
<v Speaker 8>came down to us making some place at the end.

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.800
<v Speaker 5>But Jeff is playing great and Roy was. That's a

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 5>big dude.

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were just talking about last episode kind of

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the death of the rebounder and how guys like Roy

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Hibbert you just basically woke up and all of a sudden,

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Roy Hibbert was no longer a playable a playable piece. Right.

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 2>The traditional center has sort of been devalued as somebody

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>who's in the role that you're in.

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that there's room for a traditional center

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 2>in this league with the modern NBA or no?

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 5>Oh, for sure.

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:51.240
<v Speaker 8>It's just some certain situations, certain teams you can play guys,

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 8>but a lot of teams are the way they're building

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 8>their teams. It's all about shooting and spreading the floor

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 8>in a lot of space. But like, if you build

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.760
<v Speaker 8>your team, you got a big that can really play,

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 8>He's gonna play. But it's not like it's not like

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 8>the past years, like just because he's seven foot you're

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 8>not guaranteed playing in the NBA anymore.

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at one point in time, it was like all

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to do is be born tall.

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh for sure, if you were seven foot you can revalue,

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 5>would definitely going to in the NBA.

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I still can. I still contend if I was seven

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 3>feet tall, I could have had Spencer Hawes' career. No, no, no, no,

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's it's a testament to my belief in myself.

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:27.240
<v Speaker 5>Not Spencer.

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Marty also thinks he's an athlete. Sure you don't see

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Marty right now, but he also believes that he's He's as.

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 5>Sure seven foot though you got a chance to do.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 3>I feel the same way.

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>If I was seven foot tall, I would have been

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>doing something too. I'm still playing, no doubt you.

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you've played with a lot of great players, Russ

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 2>being one. And okay, see did you see what uh

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 2>he recently said about Steven A.

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, I seen some of the stuff he said,

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 8>some stuff about how the media portrays you.

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>So what do you what do you think about that?

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 8>It's true some guys get bad reps, Like it can

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 8>be one thing somebody says in the media and it

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 8>follows them around their whole career, and that may not

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 8>be anything. That person may not be like that at all.

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 8>So it is understandable. So and for a guy like Russ,

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 8>he really does a lot in the community. He's a

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 8>great teammate. Also, I played with him, so I know

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 8>personally one of my favorite teammates. So he's all about winning.

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 8>He's gonna every night, he gives it as all like

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 8>you can't not like a guy like that. It goes

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 8>out there every night in places tell So sometimes there's

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 8>a lot of a lot of unfair Christians.

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's one of those players who's may be one

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 2>of the few that still goes full max eighty two games.

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 1>For sure, he's gonna play with load management.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna give you one hundred percent of every single possession.

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 2>What do you think the biggest difference is between how

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>he's been painted and how he actually is with his team.

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 8>I just feel like sometimes people they think he's selfish

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 8>or he's not really about the team, which is totally off. Still, yeah,

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 8>he's a great teammate. He's all about the team, and

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 8>he really wants to win.

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.879
<v Speaker 2>I remember Stephen Adam said that he and Russ would

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 2>like fight over rebounds sometimes get a rebound. There's a

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 2>balance between happiness and chips.

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:31.439
<v Speaker 8>Definitely, it has to be a balance, you know. Now

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 8>with everything's going on in the world, there's a lot

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:36.240
<v Speaker 8>of different things going on. So guys that are doing

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 8>doing what they can in the community, and it's really

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 8>it's really a good thing. Like they're doing their best,

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:42.799
<v Speaker 8>they're doing anything they can.

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 5>Do to help.

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 8>So for you to judge a guy to talk about championships,

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 8>everybody wants to win a championship.

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Guys are not not.

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 8>Trying to win championships. You know, sometimes it happens for guys,

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 8>sometimes it doesn't. But these guys are doing a lot

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 8>of special things off the court, So you got to

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 8>you gotta show them some respect and trump some love

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 8>for all the things they're doing.

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's a team game too, so like you

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 2>can't just put every time that Russ didn't win a

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 2>chip on Russ.

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 8>Of course, not like sometimes the teams have better teams

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 8>and you know it's a lot of great players then

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:15.399
<v Speaker 8>win championships.

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 3>You were just in the league, you were in the bubble,

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 3>So like, what what led to the Pelicans being that

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.520
<v Speaker 3>first uh, that first job that you saw?

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? For sure, I like, I'm sorry, I play. I

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 5>can still play, for sure.

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:30.879
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 8>If it wasn't for COVID, I definitely probably would still

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 8>be trying to play. But with everything happening with COVID

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 8>and I just had a baby, I like kind of

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 8>wanted some stability and not have to worry about like

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 8>trying to get into protocols or trying to find a job,

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 8>trying to go here, trying to like be away from

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 8>my little my little guy all the time. So and

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 8>I always went to coach, and so when this opportunity

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 8>came up, it was hard to turn it down, just

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 8>because it's a great situation with a bunch of young

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 8>players are really good and a bunch of guys I know,

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 8>got played with freaking half my team, right.

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was gonna ask you about

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 3>that too, Like, how does it feel like you just

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 3>having so many guys that you played with and against

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, still playing and you're on the bench. Is

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 3>that a little weird or like, how how does that

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 3>dynamic work?

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 5>It's I want to say it's weird. They still treat

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 5>me like I'm.

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.280
<v Speaker 8>Gonna play right right, But they listen to them because

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 8>they know, like like if I say something I'm not

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 8>saying just to be talking, like I'm only gonna say

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.080
<v Speaker 8>something about if I know it's right, if I did

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 8>it before, like I know I did it, so I

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 8>know it can be done.

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 5>So if I tell you like it needs to be

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 5>like this, they listen. So I play. It's a little

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 5>easier for me.

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you played on that young Laker team with it

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:48.360
<v Speaker 2>was Randall, Lonzo, Josh Hart, Jordan Clarkson, b I, KCP, Kuzma,

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Larry Nance Junior. Do you think if those guys developed

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 2>into who they are now, which is obviously like especially

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 2>for you in your field, you know that each situation

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 2>develops guys differently, but just hypothetically speaking, how good do

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.240
<v Speaker 2>you think that Lakers squad is? If they all fully

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 2>baking the oven in la.

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:11.919
<v Speaker 8>I think they would have ended up being pretty good,

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 8>being really good actually, because you know, if you get

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 8>a group and they stay together, and all those guys

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 8>work extremely hard. I think a lot of times people

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 8>don't see the work these guys put in.

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.359
<v Speaker 5>And all those guys they were putting in a lot

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 5>of work.

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.839
<v Speaker 8>So it's just in situations when you have a bunch

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 8>of young guys, teams want a team like in.

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 5>The market like LA.

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 8>They want to win right away though, so it's they're

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 8>not going to just develop you when they can get

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 8>a guy like Lebron. So argue with what the Lakers did,

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 8>Like they did it right. They had a lot of

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 8>good young talent and they turned it into Lebron James

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 8>and Anthony Davis. So the Lakers did a great job

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.879
<v Speaker 8>as a franchise and these young guys, they kept working

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:54.319
<v Speaker 8>their butts off and that's why they're in a good

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 8>situations there right now.

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm really interested in how the offense has changed.

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I know that you weren't there obviously last year, but

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you guys are doing a lot of interesting things using

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the using Zion the way that you're using him, Lonzo's

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 2>being used in a different way obviously, like Zion being

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 2>this primary playmaker. It's interesting because Warriors are using Draymond

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like that a little bit too, and you've got Braun

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that sort of does that too, this whole point forward thing. Uh,

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 2>do you think that's like a new wave or is

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:29.239
<v Speaker 2>this just like a it's like you said, a situational

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 2>thing depending on how the coaches want to use their players.

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 5>You have a talent of like William you're gonna give

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 5>the ball. You're gonna so.

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 8>I'm not gonna say situation. Know what's going on in

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 8>the NBA. This is a Zion Williamson things for us,

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 8>Like this guy is really good and he's really good

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:50.319
<v Speaker 8>with the ball in his hands, so we're gonna get

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.400
<v Speaker 8>him the ball and let him be Zion Williamson. And

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 8>that's why we've been really good. And he has a

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 8>lot of teammates like Linzo and beyond they want him

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.879
<v Speaker 8>to be so they're able to here, you go, big fella,

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 8>we're gonna we're gonna help you and do what we do.

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 5>You do what you do.

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.479
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because b I and and Lonzo were both

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 2>stars and their own right when they were doing their thing.

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 2>To be able to defer to to Zion when Zion's

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 2>younger and and want him to be great, that's special,

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 2>definitely special.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 8>That's why I think these guys are gonna be This

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 8>is gonna be a really good future. And you got

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 8>two superstars. I was All Star last YEARNS All Star

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 8>this year. And then you have a guy like Zoe

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 8>who's really good. He doesn't get enough credit for how

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:36.799
<v Speaker 8>good he is, and he's only getting better because he's

0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 8>twenty three years old. All these guys are young and

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 8>they're only gonna get better. So they just got to

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:42.320
<v Speaker 8>stick together.

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I got banged on on Twitter because I said I'd

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.720
<v Speaker 2>rather have Lonzo as my point guard over Ben.

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Simmons, and I was fair.

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I said that people, So I give I give Lonzo

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of credit.

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:54.799
<v Speaker 5>Way he's shooting the ball.

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, I tell you what.

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Hey, can we teach I on another move other than

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 3>that spin to the left?

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 5>And man, they can't stop.

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, it's so funny to me whatever

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I talk about. I'm like, he kind of does the

0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.320
<v Speaker 3>same thing a lot, and no one seems to be

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:10.959
<v Speaker 3>able to do anything.

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 5>Isn't that your joby? He's like you look up and

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 5>you're like, oh, he's not not for two? Like what

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 5>every night? Like they can't stop? So just keep doing

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 5>that move.

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Literally all go over there too.

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 2>You can see them trying to shade left and try

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to stop and it's like you just he's just too strong.

0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:34.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's too strong once he gets to the way he

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 8>wants to get to. And it's the touch. He has

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 8>an amazing touch to be so big and just like

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 8>it just falls in.

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not like it's not like some of these

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 2>other guys that hit the ball hard off the backboard

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and just hope it goes in off the angle you know,

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 2>is soft touch.

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>No, it's funny.

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's interesting to watch his development and he's

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 2>not one of those guys. I'd love to see Zion

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 2>give the like you're too little. He never does that.

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>He never like just is like, you know, never does

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 2>any flexing. You know me as somebody who wants to

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 2>hit the exit sign like if I was if I

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 2>was him, I would be running the scoreboard up when uh.

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember when you were drafted. Me and Marty were

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:17.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about this when we found out that we were

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 2>going to talk to you about how David Stern said

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 2>your name. He was like, he said it so funny.

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Like Corey Brewer.

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I think someone shouted it out in the crowd and

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.080
<v Speaker 3>then he was like, oh yeah, Corey Brewer, I don't know.

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 3>It always stuck with me. I was wondering if you

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 3>ever heard that.

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 5>I've never heard that. When I was like, go back

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 5>and watch it.

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 8>Like, first of all, I didn't think I was going

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 8>to Minnesota, so I was shot, and I was.

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Kind of like, Minnesota, Yes, that's everyone who ever gets

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:50.919
<v Speaker 2>drafted in Minnesota.

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 5>I really thought I was going. I thought I was

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 5>going to pick later.

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 8>So when I when I went, I was like, Okay,

0:58:59.280 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 8>I'm just happy to.

0:58:59.840 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 5>Be drafted, like dream come true. But he and no

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 5>one was sitting right next to name.

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel any pressure being that first draft pick

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:09.800
<v Speaker 2>after KG left for Boston.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 8>See that's the thing. KG hadn't left for Boston yet

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 8>when I got drafted.

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it was that in between zone.

0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it was like two weeks after, three weeks after

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.439
<v Speaker 8>I got drafted. So they probably never could use any

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 8>of my interviews when I got drafted, because all I

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 8>talked about was.

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, I can't wait to wait to get to Minnesota.

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 5>I used to love growing up. I get that it

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 5>ain't OKG.

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, okay, That's what happened when Sexton was

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 2>drafted too, because he was like kept talking about Lebron

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:39.959
<v Speaker 2>and Lebron left two weeks later.

0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 8>And the craziest thing for me is we end up

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:44.920
<v Speaker 8>making the trade and we brought in a bunch of

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 8>young guys, and we brought in Al Jefferson and they

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 8>gave him a big contract. So it was like, Oh,

0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 8>we're going to go to Al Jefferson, like we're gonna play,

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:55.920
<v Speaker 8>We're gonna go into our big man. So that was

0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:58.920
<v Speaker 8>the craziest adjustment for me in the NBA was I

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:02.280
<v Speaker 8>go from playing fast moving all the time to standing

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 8>in the corner and throwing it in the post every possession.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm lucky I made it. As long as I'm made,

1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 5>that could have been end of me.

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<v Speaker 1>You uh.

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I've always had relationships with friends where when they have

1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:19.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of beef, I have beef with that

1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 2>person too. That's like kind of how I am as

1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 2>a friend. I know Joe Keem has had his uh,

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:29.720
<v Speaker 2>his tussles with KG. When KG came back to Minnesota

1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:32.320
<v Speaker 2>and you were on that team, did you give him

1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like an elbow on Joe Keane's behalf in practice.

1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:38.680
<v Speaker 8>I don't think their beef is this series when he

1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 8>came back, but definitely I would take up for my

1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 8>guy if I could.

1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:51.400
<v Speaker 9>It's like this one's for Noah, look for my guys.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about Zach Lavine being one of the most

1:00:55.800 --> 1:01:00.360
<v Speaker 2>underrated players. Uh, and he's now having that breakout season.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think was about his game gave you

1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:05.200
<v Speaker 2>that feeling.

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:08.720
<v Speaker 5>I had exactly when he was early when he was

1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:09.240
<v Speaker 5>a rookie.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I used to go back to the night and

1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:13.800
<v Speaker 8>work out and he would be in there just working

1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 8>on his game. And he always is always working hard,

1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:19.919
<v Speaker 8>and I could tell like, this kid's gonna be really good.

1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:22.840
<v Speaker 8>And just the last few years he was getting better

1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:25.560
<v Speaker 8>and better, and I'm like, oh man, he's getting comfortable,

1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:27.120
<v Speaker 8>he's about to he's gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Have a breakout year.

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<v Speaker 8>And I just felt like this year with coach Donovan,

1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:34.080
<v Speaker 8>my guy, coach Donovan going over there, he was gonna

1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:36.760
<v Speaker 8>another level and.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, he proved me right.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the difference between college coach Donovan and pro coach

1:01:41.560 --> 1:01:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Donovan because you played for both not too much.

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<v Speaker 8>Actually, you know, in college he's a little more intense

1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:50.360
<v Speaker 8>because you treat guys a little different when they're you know,

1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:52.960
<v Speaker 8>when you're in college, a little different. But he's always

1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:54.960
<v Speaker 8>been a players coach, So that's why I kind of

1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:57.120
<v Speaker 8>knew he would be a really good NBA coach because

1:01:57.560 --> 1:01:59.480
<v Speaker 8>he was a players coach and he always puts his

1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:02.400
<v Speaker 8>players into addition to see like, it's not about his system,

1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 8>it's about the guys he has and the way they play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of guys.

1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of coaches try to keep their

1:02:09.760 --> 1:02:13.520
<v Speaker 2>system the same, regardless of the personalities and the personnel

1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:16.280
<v Speaker 2>that they have. I think one of the greatest examples

1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:18.120
<v Speaker 2>of that is happening right now with Steve Kerr. Like

1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr wants to run things the way he wants

1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to run them, no.

1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Matter who's there, he's gonna do it his way. I mean,

1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that's just facts.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, did he did he call you the drunken

1:02:31.280 --> 1:02:33.800
<v Speaker 2>dribbler while you were playing for him in OKC like

1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:35.000
<v Speaker 2>he did when you were in Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>Nah, that's funny. I got the drinking dribbling in college.

1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:45.120
<v Speaker 8>But it's funny because they say I dribbled drunk, but

1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:47.480
<v Speaker 8>I never lose the ball. So like I'm the best

1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:54.560
<v Speaker 8>drunk driver ever, Joe, because they'll be like, yo, you

1:02:54.600 --> 1:02:56.680
<v Speaker 8>can't dribble at all, but nobody ever takes it.

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:58.960
<v Speaker 5>He never lose. How is that possible.

1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just a little bit sloppy looking.

1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:04.680
<v Speaker 8>That's awesy. I've been clubing my whole life, so it

1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:05.360
<v Speaker 8>just looks fun.

1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:07.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to call a little bit of cap on that.

1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I know, you were balling way too hard to not

1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:10.400
<v Speaker 3>go into practice hungovers.

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<v Speaker 10>Sometimes this way we had a lot of fun and

1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:21.680
<v Speaker 10>college go back and win it again.

1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, and if it's working, just keep you know,

1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:25.880
<v Speaker 2>if it's not broke, don't fix it.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was mentioning your name to a Clipper fan who's

1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.640
<v Speaker 2>a barista down the corner for me, and we talk

1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:33.400
<v Speaker 2>about basketball a lot, and I was like, oh, yeah,

1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to Corey Brewer later and he's like, Corey Brewer,

1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:40.880
<v Speaker 2>he ruined our one chance at a title. As a

1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Clipper fan, it was the year before the Warriors were

1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:48.080
<v Speaker 2>really really good. It was what twenty fifteen, right, I

1:03:48.080 --> 1:03:51.520
<v Speaker 2>think it was twenty fifteen, and.

1:03:51.520 --> 1:03:53.920
<v Speaker 1>The Rockets were down.

1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:57.520
<v Speaker 2>It was it was Clippers were up three to one,

1:03:57.680 --> 1:04:00.560
<v Speaker 2>on the rockets, and then Corey Brewer came loose. I

1:04:00.560 --> 1:04:03.479
<v Speaker 2>think someone else came loose to Josh Smith. Yeah, Josh

1:04:03.520 --> 1:04:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Smith and Blake Griffin had some like crazy layup and

1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:09.960
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, Corey Brewer and Josh Smith

1:04:10.640 --> 1:04:13.240
<v Speaker 2>like took fire. I think you had nineteen points in

1:04:13.320 --> 1:04:16.080
<v Speaker 2>game six and ten rebounds something crazy?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh in the fourth quarter?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What what do you.

1:04:20.760 --> 1:04:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Remember about that series with the Clippers? And do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that that was their one chance that you guys stole?

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<v Speaker 8>We I remember they were really good and nobody gave

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<v Speaker 8>us a chance. They thought, you know, they're of three

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<v Speaker 8>to one. It was over, and I remember being down twenty.

1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:38.360
<v Speaker 8>In my mind, I'm like, all right, we're down twenty.

1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:40.360
<v Speaker 8>We just got to make a run. And I remember

1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:43.680
<v Speaker 8>getting a layout, then getting another layup and making the

1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:46.160
<v Speaker 8>three and hafter that I was like, oh, it's on,

1:04:47.560 --> 1:04:50.520
<v Speaker 8>I can't miss, and then Josh got hot.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked a little bit about Zoe.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be remiss to not ask about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he is on and expiring a lot of chatter

1:05:00.680 --> 1:05:02.200
<v Speaker 2>about whether he wants to stay in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>He just I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Went on the record yesterday say, I do want to stay.

1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I think he's playing some of his best basketball. I

1:05:10.480 --> 1:05:13.320
<v Speaker 2>think him being off ball and being a shooter and

1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:16.280
<v Speaker 2>playing defense versus being the playmaker. Now that Zion's being

1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the playmaker makes him an even bigger valuable like asset

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<v Speaker 2>for the for the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he.

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<v Speaker 2>Has played himself into a large role, like do you

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<v Speaker 2>do you see him sticking around after this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Sure, I play You're gonna figure around because he likes

1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:35.520
<v Speaker 8>the Simmons and he likes it here. He loves New Orleans. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>he wants to be here, so I thought you'll be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think New Orleans is an underrated city.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a We talked about it being tough to build

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<v Speaker 2>a brand in New Orleans because it's a football city.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love it there from a music and food perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorite places in the country.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, it's a great city. But if you're winning,

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't matter what mark you and we just got

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<v Speaker 5>to win, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, as long as you're really good, you can make

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<v Speaker 3>a mark. You can make a Yeah, you can make

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<v Speaker 3>that for yourself wherever you go. And yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 3>New Orleans too.

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<v Speaker 5>I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to l s U from there, great great place.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Ducks.

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<v Speaker 3>Both you teams, y'all got us. Y'all got us when

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<v Speaker 3>you were there. It's fine. The John Brady are y'all

1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:20.120
<v Speaker 3>ended the John Brady era. Actually, I think I think

1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that was his last game in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey, Corey, thank you so much for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a blast. I'm so glad that you remember

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<v Speaker 1>me and my gigantic hops.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell your friends that there is a barstool employee with

1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:39.520
<v Speaker 2>tremendous hops, like if she was a foot taller, she'd

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<v Speaker 2>be in the w N b ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much. Do you have anything else, Marty? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we gucci?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh No, I think we're good. Just wanted to let

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<v Speaker 3>you know we might be at the game in Brooklyn

1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:55.560
<v Speaker 3>at some point, so my uh might come say.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Yeah, we'll come say hi if we do. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't be shady though we do. Don't be like,

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