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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Smitha.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to Steffan Never told you prodectuly of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And we are currently in October.

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Speaker 1: We are in the height of.

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Speaker 2: Spooky seasons, people are calling it, and that means that

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot. I've been watching a lot of

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Speaker 2: horror movies. I've been reading a lot of horror things.

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Speaker 2: And also I was thinking about this because recently on

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Speaker 2: my other podcast, Saver, which is all about food, we

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Speaker 2: did an episode on Twizzlers and if you'll remember, the

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Speaker 2: first episode of Sminty Fiction we did was about Twizzlers.

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Speaker 3: One that only acting gig.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you were in it. You did a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: You were in that.

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Speaker 2: I love that story. It was such it was so

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Speaker 2: fun to do with you. It was fun with Christina

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Speaker 2: to hear the final products. But in there I was

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Speaker 2: making a joke about I used to love these candies

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Speaker 2: called Twist and Pills, which were discontinued, and in doing

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Speaker 2: this research for Saver, they've really tried to obliterate any

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Speaker 2: information about them. I even found a whole reddit about like,

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Speaker 2: does anyone remember twist and Pills?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: So it is a conspiracy. Either there was something very

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Speaker 2: terrible in them that we shouldn't have been eating, and

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Speaker 2: or they were very hard to make, because it turns

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Speaker 2: out making a twistler is not easy.

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Speaker 1: Requires a lot of like AI AI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they use AI to get the correct amount of

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Speaker 2: twist in it.

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Speaker 3: They do make good weapons, Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 2: They make good weapons. They're very divisive. I also learned.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the Twizzler and Vine debate.

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Speaker 1: Yes, vine is disgusting. How dare you? Oh so you're

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Speaker 1: twizzling all day?

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Speaker 3: That was the whole Parks and rec episode.

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Speaker 4: I felt so seen too, really disappointed by Leslie.

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Speaker 3: She's a vines person.

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez, Mine's is liquorish. That's true.

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Speaker 2: Even though twizzlers are like categorized as licorice candy, they're

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Speaker 2: not licorice.

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Speaker 1: They don't you. I love this. I'm glad to bun

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Speaker 1: it up.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: If you want more information about them, you can go

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Speaker 2: hear the Savor episode. In the meantime, please enjoy. It's

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Speaker 2: really fun in my opinion. Sminty fiction classic. Hey, this

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Speaker 2: is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stuff I've Never

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Speaker 2: told you production of iHeart Radio. Samantha, do you have

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Speaker 2: a favorite can I do actually, I have a couple

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Speaker 2: of favorite candies.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear them.

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Speaker 4: One is wor there's chewy Caramels. I've talked about those

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Speaker 4: on a different podcast, and I know it's old people candy,

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Speaker 4: but I love them. Look, I love them and usually

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Speaker 4: will have them on hand. I also like Twizzlers, but

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Speaker 4: I like the Twizzlers. My favorite type of Twizzlers is

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Speaker 4: actually the Halloween version of the Twizzlers. So they're individual

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Speaker 4: packaged and they're the chewy ones, but they're smaller and

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Speaker 3: Pliable, Whereas like the regular Twizzlers.

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Speaker 4: You could actually hurt somebody with right, you know, if

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Speaker 4: And it's so it's chewier and a little bit lighter.

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Speaker 4: So those are my favorite versions of Twizzlers. But those

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Speaker 4: two are probably my favorite. Yeah, okay, what about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have five different candies. I'm actually not

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Speaker 2: the story before, when I was a kid, I would

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Speaker 2: Very like strong message you get that you should want

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Speaker 2: candy as a child. And so now I have a

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Speaker 3: buy them. What's the point of just finding them?

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Speaker 1: It's the Halloween spirit.

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Speaker 2: I don't go trig or treating, but I used to

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Speaker 4: Enough actually would dig out the twizzlers, and yes.

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Speaker 1: All the twizzlers are gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a great segue into what we're doing today.

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Speaker 1: And I do want to revisit.

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Speaker 2: It in a second, because as we're recording this and

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Speaker 2: as it comes out Halloween is upon us, so we

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Speaker 1: And read some fiction. Finally, yes, yes, yes, finally.

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Speaker 2: So we are planning on having some recurring fiction readings,

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Speaker 2: nothing much is changing. We'll still have the same contents,

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Speaker 2: it could be fun. It was fun for us to do,

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Speaker 2: and we both like fiction and doing some real greade

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Speaker 2: It's like if podcast have an Oscar category.

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Speaker 1: This is we should have wandered.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, oh absolutely, So some disclaimers before we get into this.

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Speaker 2: This is something that I wrote with the idea was

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Speaker 2: in part inspired by a friend, and I'll get into

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Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it too much. It's short

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Speaker 2: End of this, and I can hear Eves's voice in

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Speaker 1: We will get into that after it'll it will make

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Speaker 2: But all right, without further ado, we're going to get

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Speaker 2: into this story called Twisted. Do you like candy? No,

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Speaker 2: me either, too sweet for me. Can't stop myself from

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Speaker 1: As a kid.

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Speaker 2: We looks everywhere for them, every store, the most random

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Speaker 2: Twist were discontinued indefinitely. If you take one thing away

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Speaker 2: Twirls are not the same. Years past, and we still

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Speaker 2: occasionally checked the candy aisles at pharmacies searching for Twist.

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Speaker 2: Even my therapists urged me to let it go, that

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Speaker 2: I was clearly clinging to a nostalgic childhood memory, an

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Speaker 2: We just wanted twists, I said, clutching the package to

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Speaker 3: Should have accepted the tear and twirls.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the filling.

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Speaker 4: That filling was called green Fruit Flavoring twenty three combined

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Speaker 4: Let go, it said, we can offer you more peace

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Speaker 2: I thought of Twist, the chewy sweet outside and the

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Speaker 2: down a bag of twists. It could be the last

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Speaker 2: of yes, Yes, I feel like you should have done

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Speaker 1: He was so good, perfect, perfect.

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Speaker 2: I hope that you enjoyed it. I did want to

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Speaker 2: Samantha immediately picked up on when we did this, I

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Speaker 2: did it is about Twizzlers. What a candy that used

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Speaker 2: They were these little like sections of Twizzler, I think

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Speaker 2: Like they were just smaller and inside was this like watermelon,

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Speaker 2: gooey candy stuff. And normally I'm not a big fruity

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Speaker 1: But for some reason, I loved these. I loved them.

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Speaker 2: And me and my some of this is autobiographical, Me

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Speaker 1: Theaters and we would just eat them by the handful.

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Speaker 2: But the tear and twirls in this story are based

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Speaker 2: on pool and peels.

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Speaker 1: Yep, which is a different type of Twizzler. But you

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Speaker 4: I like the pulling bills, and also, you know, there

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Speaker 3: I don't know. There's three different flavors.

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Speaker 1: Apparently like that.

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Speaker 3: There's a variety pack for it.

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Speaker 4: I saw them the other day and I was say, huh,

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Speaker 4: they got a type of it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's called Twizzler straws, though, or something.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like already.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny how these opinions get solidified and are

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Speaker 2: even though it very well could.

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Speaker 1: Be the thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just rejecting this very idea. And you know, there's

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Speaker 3: Yes, you did, in a different manner.

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Speaker 1: In a different manner.

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Speaker 2: So, the original idea for Twisted was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: bottom of what happened to twistin pills, which I think

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Speaker 2: I called on twisted polls earlier and that it is

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Speaker 2: incorrect they were called twisted pills, and in the process

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Speaker 2: we call the FDA, we call the FBI, and all

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Speaker 2: jail and then aliens are involved.

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Speaker 1: So it was supposed to be like a ten part thing.

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Speaker 2: No one would go for us. I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: but just to shout out Katie for for spending a

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Speaker 2: this and then apologies to literally everyone who's ever been

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Speaker 1: Even better.

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Speaker 2: But I do think when I have had those conversations,

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Speaker 2: and I've searched and searched and searched, and I have

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Speaker 2: I have looked on eBay, And you know what, I

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Speaker 2: probably haven't.

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Speaker 1: If I had a twist.

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Speaker 2: And fill right now, I bet I wouldn't even like it, But.

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Speaker 1: The nostalta would be so powerful though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the big things about candy.

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Speaker 2: I was saying, when you're looking back as a kid

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Speaker 2: like this, I'm not sure why I want it, but

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Speaker 4: It's also just like, again the ways described for you,

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Speaker 4: this is the true thing that you had, but when

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Speaker 3: I want some of that. And then now knowing what

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Speaker 3: want that. I don't want that. That's what Turkish to

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Speaker 3: light was what.

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Speaker 4: Right, of course, there's a lot of metaform like this

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Speaker 4: But that's a whole different conversation, right, But there is

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Speaker 4: that level of how well it is like descriptor what

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Speaker 4: same thing with like bit Oh honey, I used to

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Speaker 3: Of my teeth so quickly. Oh no, that stuff is trouble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of candy is trouble.

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Speaker 2: You were with me when I was writing this, actually

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Speaker 2: I was, yes, you were. It was when about a

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Speaker 2: for it. That was good for us, Yes, But I

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Speaker 2: over a year, and when I went back, I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: this is the stage I was in of grief, because

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Speaker 2: there's so many elements of like the father being dead

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Speaker 2: and having these memories come back, and then seeing like

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Speaker 2: making connections where they probably weren't connections, but you're thinking like, oh,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's some kind of sign or you know, trying

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Speaker 2: to see those things all over the place, which is

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Speaker 2: an idea I'm really dorkily fascinated in. Is that human

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Speaker 2: sea patterns where patterns don't exist a lot? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so when I was kind of stumbling through the

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Speaker 2: strange disclaimer of like, it doesn't really make sense.

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Speaker 1: I hate it when creators say this, But that was

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Speaker 2: So it was supposed to be like is this connected

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Speaker 2: or is it not connected? I don't really need to

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Speaker 2: go too deep into this silly horror story I read

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Speaker 2: I wrote, but that was kind of like the idea was,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're going through this experience, you're having this grief,

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Speaker 2: and you're seeing these things and you're trying to make

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Speaker 2: sense of them when perhaps there's no sense to be

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Speaker 2: made right of them. But the memory of that candy

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Speaker 2: and the memory of those all those things you created together,

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Speaker 2: and my dad did buy me twist and fills, and

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Speaker 2: he would let me sneak them into the theater, even

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Speaker 2: though he was a big proponent of if you.

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Speaker 1: Get caught, I'm not going to help me.

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Speaker 2: And just having those kind of moments based on this candy, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I do think food is a really powerful memory

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Speaker 2: in that way, and it can, you know, connect you

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Speaker 2: to people that you've lost or even people you just

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Speaker 2: don't see anymore. There are certain foods I'll eat I'll

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Speaker 2: just be like transported back to college. Yeah, I remember

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Speaker 2: being in my dorm and watching scary movies and eating

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Speaker 2: this with my roommate or whatever it is. And I

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Speaker 2: do have a lot of foods like that based around

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Speaker 1: And you know, they can be very.

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Speaker 2: Silly, like the five candies that I have to get.

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Speaker 2: It's really ridiculous why I feel that way, or having

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Speaker 2: And it makes me happy when I have it, and

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Speaker 2: as a kid, that was what Halloween was kind of about,

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Speaker 2: like you would get the candy.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I wasn't really about the candy.

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Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like.

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Speaker 2: That fun of hanging out with people and making those

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Speaker 2: wants twizzlers and I want those, right, These kind of silly,

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Speaker 2: smaller interactions that you really do are really important and

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Speaker 2: you do miss when that person is gone, right. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's all of that from this very very silly but

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Speaker 2: I hope fun.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a fun, very fun yeah story.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much, so happen for I enjoyed it,

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Speaker 6: for your excellent acting, Christina's excellent editing, soundscaping, and thanks

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