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Speaker 4: Cookies looking delicious, cooking for real?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 3: I'll give Jerry Jones credit that that food spread tables
Speaker 3: got out here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: The players here get taken care of now.
Speaker 4: Back in the day, Valley Range though right.
Speaker 3: They had the cater food in they didn't. They didn't
Speaker 3: have a kitchen and everything they do now. And I
Speaker 3: remember anytime in the morning. It was used to be
Speaker 3: a place called grandis.
Speaker 6: Hey. Grandy's is a spot. If y'all don't know.
Speaker 2: If that was that's that's that good home cooking food.
Speaker 6: That Kentucky fried Chicken over there. Yeah like that. It
Speaker 6: did not.
Speaker 5: Grand had the best sweet tea of them this side
Speaker 5: of the Mississippi Boy, Thank god, the.
Speaker 6: Memories Grandys and Lopes all, that's what.
Speaker 3: So that was that they used to have that there,
Speaker 3: right for the little racquetball courts that they had over
Speaker 3: at Valley Ranch back in the day. But there's a
Speaker 3: whole new world over here. But bottom line is, if
Speaker 3: you're a player here, they take care of the Let.
Speaker 7: Me tell y'all, y'all saw Valley Ranch. I saw Forest
Speaker 7: Lane in Greenville.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. No, we don't.
Speaker 2: So that's what the Cowboy Facility used to be at.
Speaker 7: Right now, there's some section eight that it's the Williams
Speaker 7: Chicken over there to go other things over there. It's
Speaker 7: then totally changed the area. But no, it didn't have
Speaker 7: no buildings. It had trailers, double widse weight room outside
Speaker 7: under some of these little tents and awnings and.
Speaker 3: Things like that in the day weight room outside.
Speaker 7: Yeah, hey yo, And that's when we used to pull
Speaker 7: up to that place. I used to be like this,
Speaker 7: this this can't be safe for y'all. Like just an right,
Speaker 7: let's walk home on the street walk in the building.
Speaker 7: But Lake Holland's back then was totally different than it
Speaker 7: is right now.
Speaker 3: It's it's also it was a different leak. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: before big money contracts and everything that happened now to
Speaker 3: where these are enterprises. Man, these these are watching five
Speaker 3: hundred companies now. Man, it's like they were a football team.
Speaker 3: But if he traded company, so it's it's it's it's
Speaker 3: it's a whole lot difference here. It's Wednesday, So the
Speaker 3: Cowboys are getting ready to face the New York Jets,
Speaker 3: the winless in full New York.
Speaker 4: Glenn out there, you know what I saw out there
Speaker 4: when I was walking in though, saw my boy Flues
Speaker 4: out there working with Donovan Wilson Diggs.
Speaker 3: Over there was out there.
Speaker 4: They're trying to get that communication right, you know what
Speaker 4: Flus is trying to get it right right there.
Speaker 3: That's what we need, right we just closed say.
Speaker 5: Get it there, that's right right. Flu's gonna do everything
Speaker 5: in his power to do it. Now if you're listening,
Speaker 5: that's a whole nother story. But as far as being detailed,
Speaker 5: Orient and the guy that's coming in their high energy,
Speaker 5: like you would think that he's still like a player or.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 5: He comes in there with that tenacity, breaking down the
Speaker 5: tech tape like coming down here like he you ever
Speaker 5: see somebody watching, And then you got some guys that
Speaker 5: coach it, and then you got the coaches to do
Speaker 5: with the aggressive tape. He's one of those guys that
Speaker 5: flinches what he go with. When you come down here,
Speaker 5: you got to hit him, hit him like this. He
Speaker 5: acts like he's in there. So I say that to
Speaker 5: say I know him and that energy. It's just like
Speaker 5: I don't count him out, like he's gonna Hey, he's
Speaker 5: gonna hear you out, just like you said. Somebody came
Speaker 5: out and said, hey, terminology too long? Okay, bet I
Speaker 5: got you one word? Okay, you can't do this, bet
Speaker 5: I got you? All right, Well, last word. Let me
Speaker 5: be back here and tell you how to make the call,
Speaker 5: and hopefully you do it. And at that point it's
Speaker 5: on you.
Speaker 3: Get mass this question, what's smacking because you brought up energy?
Speaker 3: Does that matter? Does it really matter?
Speaker 6: It does?
Speaker 5: I forgot who I seen posted the other day. But
Speaker 5: the coach's energy sets everything coming in. There's some guys
Speaker 5: that are well established coaches to where oh, you have
Speaker 5: a winning tuolage or if that makes sense, but that
Speaker 5: don't have anything to do with it. Like y'all know
Speaker 5: how it is like to be a leader amongst men,
Speaker 5: especially alpha men now that are doing things.
Speaker 6: You got it.
Speaker 5: I have that one coach on the on the roster
Speaker 5: that that's bringing the energy, that's a former player that
Speaker 5: can still get out there that makes you say, hey, coach,
Speaker 5: I believe in it, and you leading by example to
Speaker 5: go there and so.
Speaker 3: And I bring that up because Wade Phillips wasn't high energy,
Speaker 3: but he knew football and could scheme with the best
Speaker 3: of them. And then Chuck No, Tony Dungee, these were
Speaker 3: not high energy people. Tom Landry one of the greatest
Speaker 3: defensive minds of all time if it at the flex defense,
Speaker 3: he wasn't. So I wonder about that because I know
Speaker 3: some people love it, So I just wonder how much
Speaker 3: does it matter. I loved it playing.
Speaker 4: I loved it when you had a guy that can
Speaker 4: bring energy to the locker room basically can own a room,
Speaker 4: can control a room. Like when you got guys that
Speaker 4: are kind of timid and kind of you sense that
Speaker 4: not sure about something that you lose the room that way.
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example like this.
Speaker 4: We had after Brent, Maxie and them left, we had
Speaker 4: a guy by the name of Joe Baker. Great guy,
Speaker 4: great guy. I still talk to him to this day.
Speaker 4: You know, we still we still conversation back and forth.
Speaker 4: But when it came down to Joe, he was, you know,
Speaker 4: very spoken, very just well, if you want to play
Speaker 4: it this way, you know it, just make sure you're
Speaker 4: on your the hash mark.
Speaker 3: It was just little things like that, and it's like, man.
Speaker 4: The room, he lost the room, the head coach, they
Speaker 4: go to prison.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, you see what the key.
Speaker 3: Friends with the head coach.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: That was the whole thing was like, it's my guy
Speaker 3: over he you know.
Speaker 5: But you said the key word there when you said that,
Speaker 5: he said, if you want to play it that way,
Speaker 5: when you got those guys that can control the room,
Speaker 5: it's no, if you want to play it the way,
Speaker 5: you need to play it this way. And this is
Speaker 5: why you need to play it this way. And when
Speaker 5: you hear coach say that, you said, okay, this is
Speaker 5: why you're explaining it as a player, you know how
Speaker 5: it is when you got the old head player in
Speaker 5: the room, man, it wouldn't talk like this, this is stupid.
Speaker 6: I don't understand it.
Speaker 5: And the moment you get somebody to say it's stupid,
Speaker 5: you don't understand that, they don't believe. All it take
Speaker 5: is that one young guy to be over here and
Speaker 5: I'm listening to my vet.
Speaker 6: He it is dumb. And once you lose the room,
Speaker 6: that's it.
Speaker 5: So with that energy, you're gonna have the you're gonna
Speaker 5: have the technique part of it.
Speaker 6: But sometimes there's going to be some.
Speaker 5: Days where you got to close that door and say, hey, y'all,
Speaker 5: I'm a player, I've been here, I know what's going on,
Speaker 5: and God say, hey, I respect that vibe your thoughts.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I had my rookie year with the Oiler Slash Titans.
Speaker 7: We had a dude named Ed Sidwell, older defensive coordinator.
Speaker 7: You know, like I said, we ran the forty six,
Speaker 7: but Ed was just gonna sit in his chair to his.
Speaker 2: Dip and spit it out. Shortly after that, we got
Speaker 2: Greg Williams.
Speaker 6: Yo, I would love it.
Speaker 7: And Greg was that dude that was in the room
Speaker 7: amongst a bunch of alpha men who knew he had
Speaker 7: to get the room. So that being said, yeah, it
Speaker 7: was it was energy in that room. Was it was
Speaker 7: just his delivery all the time. Was like in a
Speaker 7: way that like it was an aggressive delivery because we
Speaker 7: wanted to have an aggressive style of defense. So that
Speaker 7: being said, yeah, you definitely got two different types of energy,
Speaker 7: two different types of vibes. Well it's probably more than two,
Speaker 7: but it's all about the vibe. And to have a
Speaker 7: defense coordinator that comes with that energy, it like exudes
Speaker 7: onto the guys in the room too as well, like
Speaker 7: we feel that energy and we want to be like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so all three of you say you want the
Speaker 3: energy that's from the coordinator. Now what about the head coach?
Speaker 3: Does the head coach have to have the same No,
Speaker 3: it's a balance.
Speaker 5: Like my if my defensive co one, I would want
Speaker 5: my defensive coordinator to be the guy that got the energy,
Speaker 5: but if he doesn't, I need at least one of
Speaker 5: them to go over there, Like okay.
Speaker 6: If I can get both of them to have it.
Speaker 5: Cool prime example, I had coach Norton and UH Coach
Speaker 5: Norton and coach Peek Carroll. Both of them were energy guys.
Speaker 5: But if I can get one guy to pick up
Speaker 5: the slack, say that you got an older defensive coordinator,
Speaker 5: but you got a head coach that can really galvanize them.
Speaker 5: You got to get the best of both worlds. Like,
Speaker 5: you can't just have two guys.
Speaker 7: You need to want somebody would I would love to
Speaker 7: have a coach that's a bad ass twenty four to seven,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, and that that that whole
Speaker 7: thing could just you know, his energy, like we said,
Speaker 7: can just filter through everybody, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so that being said that, I would love that.
Speaker 7: And you know, like I had John Gruden, Grew was
Speaker 7: that everybody know Grew is the energy dude. But at
Speaker 7: the same time Grew was over there, you know, looking
Speaker 7: like Chucky and everything else like that. But that that
Speaker 7: that came with him, and that came through all of
Speaker 7: us too as well.
Speaker 2: So I want I want see I want I want
Speaker 2: those alpha males run. I never had I want them leaders.
Speaker 3: Like the head coach.
Speaker 4: I never had a head coach that was like I
Speaker 4: mean my whole time, never got the experience one because
Speaker 4: I had you know, Wade had jg and then I
Speaker 4: had Doug Maroon down in Jacksonville and they was.
Speaker 3: All kind of you know, chill chill cast.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: I had the coordinators that will that'll get after you,
Speaker 4: rob Ryan, I had them cat balanced up and balance.
Speaker 3: It did balance it out.
Speaker 4: But what I will say is, you know, coaches, it's
Speaker 4: a fine likee because you can't coach everybody the same
Speaker 4: you talking about players, like some cats respond well to.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm a dog. You ain't nothing like getting on
Speaker 3: their case time in and time out. Some respond well like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you what it is. But then there's others.
Speaker 3: If you do that same a approach, player wise will
Speaker 3: cave in. But oh they don't know man, Yeah, they'll
Speaker 3: they'll shut down.
Speaker 7: On you, gonna attack you, be like who you talking
Speaker 7: or that this is like you, I'm a grown man,
Speaker 7: Like I've seen it all over the place.
Speaker 3: So it's it's definitely a fine balance. It's interesting, it's
Speaker 3: interesting and obviously Brian Schottenheimer is an energy person, having
Speaker 3: been around Pet Carroll believes in that his father was
Speaker 3: the same way. Brought a lot of juice and energy.
Speaker 3: So it's a very interesting conversation because football is really
Speaker 3: all sports, like how do you balance it and what
Speaker 3: do you do? But it's it's a fantastic conversation.
Speaker 7: You mentioned the name earlier, and and and like one
Speaker 7: of the benefits that I have is being around here.
Speaker 7: And this cowboy organization was for so long. Was I
Speaker 7: actually had a chance to meet Coach Landry back in
Speaker 7: the day. And just like you said, he was a
Speaker 7: quiet man. But it was something about him even as
Speaker 7: a kid, like that strength. You could feel it. It
Speaker 7: was like it was an aura about him, dude, and
Speaker 7: he come when he would come in the room and
Speaker 7: and like it would just be something like you wouldn't
Speaker 7: even be looking that way, but you could feel like, oh,
Speaker 7: he here, you know what I mean. And so that
Speaker 7: was just one of those things about him that I
Speaker 7: never forgot about him even as a kid, that I recognized.
Speaker 5: But that's but that that goes to a demeanor because
Speaker 5: when you think when you talk about him, I think
Speaker 5: about Tom Coughlin. Like Coughlin wasn't a big, raw, raw guy.
Speaker 5: But when I tell you, Kauughlin, Tom had you nervous.
Speaker 5: Or like you said, when you cover their people had
Speaker 5: that mechanism going in their head like hey being your
Speaker 5: me being the your chair early or like whenever you
Speaker 5: the loudest thing in the room is for everybody to
Speaker 5: be quiet, and you hear that pin go to paper
Speaker 5: whenever you hear that.
Speaker 3: But that's those two respect Now. When I went up
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys, practiced up in Denver one year. That
Speaker 3: was the year they had Nathaniel Hackett. He was an
Speaker 3: energy guy, next thing, you know, and then they fired
Speaker 3: in mid Russell got they're doing that Bronco let's ride
Speaker 3: that thing Brockett was that was that was not pretty.
Speaker 3: So you know that that whole energy thing, especially when
Speaker 3: you play us.
Speaker 2: Coach, he was Jackson.
Speaker 3: He was the energy guy. He'd be out there and
Speaker 3: break dancing before practice.
Speaker 2: He was. He was, but.
Speaker 3: He was cool.
Speaker 6: It's a fine line.
Speaker 3: He just couldn't run a room like he just you know,
Speaker 3: he couldn't run, you know, lead man like this.
Speaker 6: His dad was.
Speaker 2: His dad was awesome. Coach. Yeah, I'm saying his dad was.
Speaker 5: It is a different when you see somebody that you said, hey, coach,
Speaker 5: leave me alone.
Speaker 3: Okay. I was. I was with Dennis Thurman and watched
Speaker 3: him at USC. We're talking about his dad, his dad.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It was terrible, It was terrible. I remember the first
Speaker 3: press conference, first press conference, Paul Hackett boy told us
Speaker 3: how they were gonna be good in the quarterback room.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be good in the quarterback room. And he
Speaker 3: benched this dude named John Fox. Not only bencheding dude
Speaker 3: went the linebackers. How much little use he had for him.
Speaker 3: So so you can see dude was starting for John
Speaker 3: Robber Paul get he now a linebacker and he was
Speaker 3: holding kicks. At the end of the year, he was
Speaker 3: starting again. That quarterback.
Speaker 2: He was suing.
Speaker 3: That thing was bad, bro, And that was you know,
Speaker 3: luckily for him. He was so bad. Pete Carroll came in.
Speaker 3: I remember talking to d T one time. He's like
Speaker 3: they went to the bowl game. Was so out of shape.
Speaker 3: He was so out of shape, man, And that was
Speaker 3: the thing about him.
Speaker 6: Though.
Speaker 7: He was a pro coach like so, so that was
Speaker 7: and that was one of the things. So having him
Speaker 7: as a freshman that pit and you were more so
Speaker 7: he was. He definitely had that pro mentality, all right,
Speaker 7: And so he probably wasn't.
Speaker 2: The best college.
Speaker 7: He didn't know the rule right, but hey, come to
Speaker 7: scheming and putting things together, well, I had the hottest
Speaker 7: package and all kinds of stuff coming.
Speaker 3: C You talked about the great coaches that you had
Speaker 3: of him. It's great. He hired some greaters SATs. But
Speaker 3: this dude didn't know the rules. He was out here
Speaker 3: calling time outs after and you know it's in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, they go get a first He called time
Speaker 3: brother clocks out man, and he almost asked Carson Palmers
Speaker 3: that Hugh Jackson was the assistant. Of course he was
Speaker 3: off to go. He had to go save the classman
Speaker 3: and dudes were trying to check out on him man,
Speaker 3: and Carson was actually going prob but when Pete came in,
Speaker 3: he had normal like, nah, man, just wait, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: give us one more year. And Carson when the.
Speaker 7: Many Carson and got ran out a few places by
Speaker 7: people like Cincinnati and retiring.
Speaker 3: They did him dirty, and since he I mean looking
Speaker 3: at your boys ran him out, he retired. But t
Speaker 3: O and Ocho man, they did out, assisting that what
Speaker 3: he said about I was there for the first it was.
Speaker 3: It was it was the Hall of Fame game. Went in,
Speaker 3: went in and then cursed me out because he had
Speaker 3: a party at the Hall of Fame party and it
Speaker 3: was like four people from the stage my station who
Speaker 3: was there. I snuck in Matt Barry at ESPN. I said,
Speaker 3: two people you on that party won't be lit by
Speaker 3: that drinks and stuff. He found you. I told you,
Speaker 3: you know, he worried about the wrong thing. Man check.
Speaker 6: I'm glad you here, my boy he brought me. Doesn't
Speaker 6: we owe you for this one?
Speaker 3: Emmitt Smith will never be broke because my man was
Speaker 3: taking roll your party and he.
Speaker 6: Drinks.
Speaker 3: And I looked at Matt to because I snuck ument like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should have kept a low profile back.
Speaker 6: We're doing.
Speaker 3: Next time you see, you need to go get some drinks.
Speaker 3: Man drinking bat give me another man and I'm good
Speaker 3: because I don't drink.
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't mind with them.
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame parties and changed over the past few years.
Speaker 2: They didn't.
Speaker 6: They didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't morphed into something totally different.
Speaker 6: So they they're nice. Yeah, I want to who was
Speaker 6: that he had justin Timberlake performing? Was that Jerry's?
Speaker 3: Jerry?
Speaker 6: That was Jerry's? That was I was on the team
Speaker 6: that year.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I could wait because I went the year
Speaker 5: that they we didn't get to go to the party
Speaker 5: my rookie year, Michael Strahan was going in. So now
Speaker 5: that I'm a vet, Jerry wanted everybody to come. He said, hey,
Speaker 5: we're gonna cancel everything early. So we go in there.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you see j T come on stage.
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, snap, this is.
Speaker 6: This is it. I ain't never seen him perform live.
Speaker 5: And when I tell you and he was, he was
Speaker 5: so right there right there.
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Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 3: Is it stopping the run, pass the quarterback, dual quarterback? Defensively?
Speaker 3: What is what should Matt Eber flus be looking for
Speaker 3: this week as they try to limit Justin Field's explosive plays.
Speaker 7: Right now, exposive players, I don't care if they coming
Speaker 7: through the ear on the ground, you know.
Speaker 2: And and one of the.
Speaker 7: Things, like Church said, as we came in here, we
Speaker 7: saw uh E Fluce out there working with the linebackers
Speaker 7: and some of the DB's too as well, just working
Speaker 7: on some communication things and some fit things obviously, but uh,
Speaker 7: it's it's going to be the explosive place. And we've
Speaker 7: seen in the past where teams have not been as
Speaker 7: success for coming in here or playing against the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: and then they get up against Cowsboys and they go off.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be the big thing.
Speaker 7: Man, stop stopping balls going overhead, bombs over back, Dad
Speaker 7: got to stop, and and no long runs on the ground.
Speaker 6: So I'm thinking, Uh, for me, I.
Speaker 5: Would say it's the quarterback man. At this point of
Speaker 5: the run is shown that it can be stopped. You
Speaker 5: you you stop, say Kwan. And then they got a
Speaker 5: good running back over there. But they also got some receivers.
Speaker 5: Now it's just have they shown flashes, Yeah, but with
Speaker 5: our dbs, we haven't stopped nobody all the quarterbacks have
Speaker 5: come in and got their footing down and then let
Speaker 5: alone a mobile quarterback at that like justin fields. Honestly,
Speaker 5: I think he's better throw throwing it on the run
Speaker 5: versus the year sitting in the pocket. So for me,
Speaker 5: that makes me a little nervous coming into this game.
Speaker 5: So I think that's the big thing that ibra Flus
Speaker 5: would have to worry about, because these boys are stopping
Speaker 5: the run on the Interosa and Kenny Clark are doing
Speaker 5: their things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I'm with you.
Speaker 4: The gotta stop the explosives in the back end and
Speaker 4: that you know, that's all about talking and making sure
Speaker 4: you're at the right place and everybody's playing on the
Speaker 4: same page. And as far as the defensive line is concerned,
Speaker 4: you got to get those rush lanes right. What we
Speaker 4: saw against Philadelphia when they ran against Jalen Hurts, they
Speaker 4: were getting a field, but it was all on different levels.
Speaker 4: And all Jalen Hurts was able to do was make,
Speaker 4: you know, maneuver this way and then he's out the
Speaker 4: gate and then you know, the second level linebackers are
Speaker 4: fifteen twenty yards back there, and he had all that.
Speaker 3: Room to run and that's Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4: You get fields that type of room, you looking at
Speaker 4: explosiveness on the ground. So to me, the key is
Speaker 4: talk as a secondary and in that front seven. When
Speaker 4: you're trying to contain this guy, make sure you make
Speaker 4: him play from the pocket if you letting you know,
Speaker 4: like you said, by time out there running around and
Speaker 4: throwing a run. He can dice you up, all right.
Speaker 4: He can do big things. So you gotta contain him
Speaker 4: and force him to play from the pocket. And I
Speaker 4: think that's how you get your biggest advantage.
Speaker 5: And the other thing, my bad. The other thing I
Speaker 5: forgot to mention that I know we all know what
Speaker 5: the that's that's obvious. Everybody comes in here, they bombs
Speaker 5: over back that you talk about the defense. Another good
Speaker 5: thing about this jet teams that I've been watching. Did
Speaker 5: anybody see the guy that blocked the field goal and
Speaker 5: took it back on on the touchdown?
Speaker 6: Their special teams.
Speaker 5: I've been playing lights out like weekend and week out,
Speaker 5: and so it takes three phases of the game. So
Speaker 5: don't let two of these phases really start kicking two
Speaker 5: out of the three start kicking your butt. So I
Speaker 5: think the special teams is going to be that extract.
Speaker 7: Chris, you might notice and and and I don't know
Speaker 7: if you know what has have we have? They're not
Speaker 7: been a one hundred yard rushing game yet this season
Speaker 7: against the against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Has everyone has anybody not rushed for one hundred?
Speaker 3: Yet nobody's got a hundred of them? Nobody.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about combined, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not so Yeah, they asking some combined. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 3: got combined last week. Last week they had eighty and
Speaker 3: the other kid came in there because he went out
Speaker 3: for a little bit. But but that hasn't been their
Speaker 3: issue in terms of they dealt well. Yeah, the Jets
Speaker 3: here only have five touchdown passes. So and that's one
Speaker 3: where you know, right right, let's make sure this week
Speaker 3: that they don't sit up here with you know, two
Speaker 3: three fold. That's that to me is one of the
Speaker 3: things to look at their So so everybody do your job,
Speaker 3: but but you've got to stop Breee Hall. To me,
Speaker 3: that to me is the thing man, if you if
Speaker 3: you can limit Briess Halls almost like them saying with
Speaker 3: things with Saquon Barkley, limit this guy because now if
Speaker 3: it's play action passing going and you've got a mobile
Speaker 3: quarterback who can get out here. That's when you get
Speaker 3: in trouble.
Speaker 2: Look, Breece Hall has been doing this thing this year.
Speaker 2: He looks real good.
Speaker 7: And Garrett Wilson ain't nothing to play with on the outs.
Speaker 6: That's all I was gonna say. Garrett Wilson nothing is
Speaker 6: the only thing that makes me nervous.
Speaker 5: Brice Hall, Like, yeah, he's been doing his thing, but
Speaker 5: you just stop Saquon Like if it's me Like on
Speaker 5: this defense, we stopped the number one guy in the league.
Speaker 7: What do we even be is trying to get that
Speaker 7: that stuff straight. They don't new offense coordinator. Everything's things
Speaker 7: a little bit different over there. I mean, yeah, so
Speaker 7: they look like they ain't figured out how to run yet.
Speaker 5: That's fine, But I'm saying, like you still, there's certain
Speaker 5: players that are certain star players, were star power. You say,
Speaker 5: if we do this against him, when we got them discombobulated,
Speaker 5: we can do this.
Speaker 6: Bris Hall, I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 5: I got you got Kenny Clark that's been phenomenal playing
Speaker 5: in the middle, like hands down has been He's been
Speaker 5: everything that Jerry has advertised as far as being a missipiece.
Speaker 7: He looks a lot better on the bad defense than
Speaker 7: he probably would if he was on a good defense
Speaker 7: right now tomorrow.
Speaker 5: He was with the Packers on a good defense, and
Speaker 5: when he was healthy, he was the anchor of that defense.
Speaker 5: It's just that last year he was coming off an injury.
Speaker 5: But before then, every that's what everybody said when that
Speaker 5: got him, they said, Hey, if we get the Kenny
Speaker 5: Clark before injury, this is gonna be a great pickup.
Speaker 6: But you didn't know who you were getting.
Speaker 3: I'll push back on that trade. If Hall is out
Speaker 3: here being able to run the football, now you're opening
Speaker 3: up some different You go back to look at even
Speaker 3: even Barkley, while he limited him, it's still allowed a
Speaker 3: guy like Jalen Hurst to get out here running. So
Speaker 3: Haul's out here breaking all some stuff. Now my quarterback
Speaker 3: can get lose. Next thing, you know, you try to
Speaker 3: bring up some people, you bring Donna in the bottom
Speaker 3: man over here. So to means, And when I talked
Speaker 3: to Kenny last week, he said, with Green Bay has
Speaker 3: to start with running, he said, we've got to focus
Speaker 3: in on Jacobs. He said, because if he's able to
Speaker 3: get out here and and dictate some of the way
Speaker 3: they're calling plays. It's a problem. And one of the
Speaker 3: things you saw in a couple of these long drives
Speaker 3: they had, Jacobs was getting the ball. He was doing
Speaker 3: some damages. So to me, I think you've got to
Speaker 3: live in it. I know, Garrett Wilson's pretty good looking
Speaker 3: right here. He's sixth in the league right now in
Speaker 3: yardage three eleven in twenty seven catches. Got Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: got twenty seven catches here. But I just think it's
Speaker 3: still about the run. If you want to beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: To me, they still about you being able to run
Speaker 3: the football in Green Bay. While they didn't win the game,
Speaker 3: they still were effective when it comes to running the football.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 3: Just look at the numbers. One sixty four on the ground.
Speaker 3: That's it. Thirty five carries that they had in the
Speaker 3: game right there, So four point seven. I think any
Speaker 3: offense in the league would take a four point seven
Speaker 3: yard average in thirty five attempts.
Speaker 7: And so when I hear you saying like they stopping
Speaker 7: to run one sixty four, ain't stopping run. You might
Speaker 7: have stopped an individual from getting a gang of yards,
Speaker 7: but you ain't stopped the run yet.
Speaker 5: And how much, But also with you can't just go
Speaker 5: by numbers, how much how much of those was trash numbers?
Speaker 5: How many of those runs came at the end when
Speaker 5: guys were trying to run out the clock because the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Were catching up or it was right this this game,
Speaker 7: these are trash with the tie, it ain't no trash.
Speaker 5: That is trash minute though, like they didn't try to
Speaker 5: bleed the clock at the end.
Speaker 3: Go back to the Philly game where the first half
Speaker 3: you couldn't stop nobody. Second half you made the stops.
Speaker 3: This game. First half what sixteen thirteen, so you were affected,
Speaker 3: but come the fourth quarter thirty one points scored a
Speaker 3: fourth quarter toward the end of the game. So it's
Speaker 3: being consistent, is what some of those guys in the room,
Speaker 3: defenders were talking about when I was in there, Just
Speaker 3: trying to be more consistent because they've had just like
Speaker 3: figured it out. We won't know what's going on here.
Speaker 3: They got to put together full better sixty minutes here.
Speaker 6: Of course, this is.
Speaker 3: Interesting about what they've got going on here, But you know,
Speaker 3: just to me, I still think, if I'm trying to
Speaker 3: beat the Dallas Cowboys, I gotta figure out how to
Speaker 3: run the football and mix it up because I'm running
Speaker 3: the football.
Speaker 11: So the Green Bay rush for one hundred and sixty
Speaker 11: four yards total last week. Okay, Jacobs had eighty six yards. Now,
Speaker 11: the only other team to rush for over one hundred
Speaker 11: yards against the Cowboys was Philly Herts had sixty two
Speaker 11: and Barkley had sixty. They had one hundred and fifty
Speaker 11: eight total yards. But New York Giants and the Chicago
Speaker 11: Bears didn't get to one hundred. So here we go,
Speaker 11: talk about eighty seven.
Speaker 3: Here's a pretty good indicator. So just looking so so
Speaker 3: CHRISTI said buck sixty four right, first half? Green Bay
Speaker 3: fourteen carries thirty one yards. So they did all that
Speaker 3: damage in the second half when they were out there scoring.
Speaker 2: So you said to run the clock out and they was.
Speaker 6: Anything.
Speaker 2: It wasn't no time for that in the second half.
Speaker 2: That game was too close.
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Speaker 4: That's why out there, this is facts.
Speaker 3: You want to get burried. You want to get burried
Speaker 3: to move, you gotta you know, you know how the
Speaker 3: game is. You know, I'm not mad at not told.
Speaker 3: I'm not mad. At one time I was going on.
Speaker 3: It was a Cowboys playing in Kansas City. I go
Speaker 3: to the gate and there's damn what you know they
Speaker 3: paid for them to do that? Man, did you have
Speaker 3: a jersey? I joked, and I said, oh, this one,
Speaker 3: this was paid good.
Speaker 6: He got a jersey on.
Speaker 3: You know, hey, look man, mad as your alumni and
Speaker 3: you still get yourself a check. Baby, Go get yourself cha,
Speaker 3: go do it.
Speaker 6: I'm mad at you.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: Bring your friend alone.
Speaker 4: Barry, got to handle you own business man, got a
Speaker 4: handle your brother's keeper.
Speaker 3: You've grown, you know, grow grown man. You're supposed to.
Speaker 5: Be a part of the same fraternity and then the
Speaker 5: team man the NFL.
Speaker 7: If you gotta take that with the people saying exactly exactly,
Speaker 7: it ain't about what you know, it's about.
Speaker 3: You don't know the right You're good network that.
Speaker 2: I've learned, Abut I'm learning my way around the building, Anthony.
Speaker 3: Do you put me in learned players lines dot Com?
Speaker 6: Hey? They did.
Speaker 5: We was together. We've been talking about this the whole time,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna do that. They gonna do that. Man
Speaker 5: for himself out here, Well, I see man is no
Speaker 5: longer wearing a boot and he's doing rehab work today.
Speaker 3: Out let's go. Let's go back.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, let's not go. Let's getting back out there,
Speaker 6: good time.
Speaker 3: Let's get him. And that's my next question. You have
Speaker 3: worked extensively with Britt Brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been
Speaker 3: with Brit a lot. High ankle springs and we see
Speaker 3: that if you're a cowboy fan and you see that
Speaker 3: right there, because you know, allowed to shoot the pictures
Speaker 3: in hopeful what what what should we feeling.
Speaker 4: If he's on the bands and we call the bands
Speaker 4: is when you got like a little rope around your
Speaker 4: waist and bits. BRIT's kind of using resistance against you. You
Speaker 4: running a little bit here and there on the field.
Speaker 4: If he's on the bands, that's a good sign.
Speaker 3: That's a good sign.
Speaker 4: That means that you know the rehabs, not just in
Speaker 4: the training room, like you're not just getting ice and
Speaker 4: stem and you're getting you know, boots on and all
Speaker 4: that other stuff.
Speaker 3: You out there actually doing worse. So that is a
Speaker 3: very good sign.
Speaker 4: Hopefully it's only maybe another week or two before he's
Speaker 4: out on the field because this offense is already explosive.
Speaker 3: You add that to the fire and I mean we
Speaker 3: cook it with grease then.
Speaker 4: But if you're out there on the bands with brit
Speaker 4: that's a great sign that you're on your way back
Speaker 4: onto the football.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you're in the bands, I just
Speaker 7: know he might be out there doing something.
Speaker 3: If you're on the band, if you out there with
Speaker 3: more than likely he.
Speaker 6: On the bank.
Speaker 2: I gotta see the catch down here in the end
Speaker 2: zone on the bands.
Speaker 7: You go there, I ain't see the band is good good,
Speaker 7: But the fact that he's out that boot and he
Speaker 7: could put weight on us, that's that's that's that's something
Speaker 7: that showing he's going in the right direction.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Mingo dum corner Bryan Schoenheimer. His open his window,
Speaker 3: so the window of the practice is open for him
Speaker 3: and for cornerback Kayln Carson. So there's your reinforcements coming
Speaker 3: along the way. So Kayln Carson and Jonathan Mingo Carson,
Speaker 3: that's my Oh, that's my man.
Speaker 6: I got.
Speaker 4: Who that was ugly, But you know that's that's that's
Speaker 4: some more depth in the secondary. I mean, he's a
Speaker 4: guy that can come from hailing Carson. Number twenty one
Speaker 4: is a corner for the cowboy he got that's not
Speaker 4: the right Nah, he had shoulder issues. I want to say,
Speaker 4: that's when man Derrick.
Speaker 3: Henry and I got. I got. I got it with
Speaker 3: a Dereck Henry still farmed myself.
Speaker 6: Pull Peo, pull up to take the CV.
Speaker 3: That's it's a you don't want to put my man.
Speaker 7: So so back in the day, I used to ask
Speaker 7: my dad all the time, like man, because you see
Speaker 7: these people getting stiff armed like that. I'm like, Dad,
Speaker 7: what you do when somebody tried? He's like, man, tackle
Speaker 7: the arm. I was like what He's like, tackle the
Speaker 7: arm or go for the ball. And ever since then
Speaker 7: I was like, oh okay, so now you know. But
Speaker 7: but I had this this whole thing, like if you
Speaker 7: try to stiff farm me, I was gonna knock your
Speaker 7: arm back, take it around your your back and laying
Speaker 7: on you, like, try to take that.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna use that. You didn't play for Greg,
Speaker 3: will you? Cobra?
Speaker 2: Cobra?
Speaker 6: He said.
Speaker 5: His dad was a boxer man. He taught you, you
Speaker 5: get this right here, that's the most passive thing you got.
Speaker 5: You ball it up and he said, they try to
Speaker 5: stick it out there, you better punch it. He said,
Speaker 5: but like in the boxing match, don't you miss that punch.
Speaker 5: Don't you miss that got it? You gotta run straight
Speaker 5: through it. You gotta rush them.
Speaker 3: You exposed.
Speaker 4: Have y'all ever played with anybody that that had a
Speaker 4: lot of friendly fire?
Speaker 3: I was you was a friendly fire guy.
Speaker 15: That is that is he was a friendly fire guy
Speaker 15: that you are a sideline the sideline type guy man, Like,
Speaker 15: if you have a really good get off, you're gonna
Speaker 15: get some off every now and again.
Speaker 6: It's gonna look that good. So friendly fire guys.
Speaker 5: If y'all don't understand, we used to have these coaches
Speaker 5: that sit there, how can you get noticed on on
Speaker 5: the film. You need to be by the ball. Well,
Speaker 5: how does that happen? I'm a big d lineman. If
Speaker 5: I run and rush the passer and I run to
Speaker 5: the pile, guess what, it's two hundred and fifty two hundred.
Speaker 3: Take you out full speed.
Speaker 6: Guess what? Everybody whole jankles is gone. Good time? Head?
Speaker 2: Was that guy for us we're supposed to be Jeff?
Speaker 3: He was, Yeah, he's a kind of I played with
Speaker 3: he too. Get out the way because this is sides closed.
Speaker 5: When we got on the team, Tyrant said, man, hey,
Speaker 5: big cat, I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6: I love the way d Moore play like they like, hey,
Speaker 6: Ibra Fluse. You know.
Speaker 5: He showed this little tape with the cheetahs and stuff running.
Speaker 5: He put your face on and they was like, man,
Speaker 5: d more show do. We ended up on the effort tape,
Speaker 5: But between him and Jeff, he coached, I gotta go
Speaker 5: play on the.
Speaker 3: Other side, and I'm damn.
Speaker 6: Jeff and I know it too. Came down there and hit.
Speaker 3: Me one day and I was like, it's gonna let
Speaker 3: this show in and sit right here with you five man.
Speaker 6: I'm good with that.
Speaker 3: He was, I can cast out our own teammates.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm hitting the guy, but don't be sitting there
Speaker 5: and be the guy holding them up trying to rap.
Speaker 6: If you do, you gotta hold him like this. You
Speaker 6: gotta sit back. You can't be the.
Speaker 2: Guy like I got. I gotta play with thinking about trade.
Speaker 5: You're know how they say you had a fight back
Speaker 5: in the day. Don't ever jump in between the fight,
Speaker 5: but be on the outskirts of fight. If you're trying
Speaker 5: to break it up. Yeah, don't be on the anybody
Speaker 5: can get it.
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