Speaker 1: Look at how it's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Golstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a bonnet, and I love films. As Yah
Speaker 1: Yassi once said, history is not written in a single stroke,
Speaker 1: but in layers of lived moments, you know, like in
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump and whatnot. Every week I invite a special
Speaker 1: guest over. I tell them they've died, then I get
Speaker 1: them to discuss their life through the films that want
Speaker 1: the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith,
Speaker 1: Sharon Stone, and even Dead Clambles. But this week we
Speaker 1: have the amazing actor, writer, producer, and director and dancer.
Speaker 1: It's Julia Stiles. All episodes of Shrinking Season one and
Speaker 1: two are now available on Apple TV. Get caught up
Speaker 1: on all of them before we release season three. Head
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Speaker 1: Brett girlsde Juliet Styles. You might know her from her
Speaker 1: legendary roles in Ten Things I Hate About You, Save
Speaker 1: the Last Dance, and more recently, Husslers and Riviera. Julius
Speaker 1: Stiles's directorial debut Wish You Were Here, is out now.
Speaker 1: You very much should watch it. I'd never met Julie before.
Speaker 1: I was very excited to do this. We recorded this
Speaker 1: on zoom. It was an absolute pleasure and I really
Speaker 1: think you're going to love this one. She also sent
Speaker 1: me some voice notes to add to the end of
Speaker 1: the episode. Hopefully they're included here. So that's it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode three hundred and
Speaker 1: forty two of Films to Be Buried With. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to Be Buried With. It is me
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a director, a dancer, a born identity, and
Speaker 1: ten Things You Hate about a Save the Last Dancer,
Speaker 1: a mona Lisa Smiler, a hero, a legend, and an icon.
Speaker 1: The list goes on. I can't believe she's here, but
Speaker 1: she is. Please welcome to the show. It's the wonderful.
Speaker 1: It's Julia Styles.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. What a fun introduction and
Speaker 2: such a pleasure to talk to you. Such a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Nice to me you. Juli dar was a big fan.
Speaker 1: Sorry the intro was so short. We could have gone
Speaker 1: on a lot longer. That's all right.
Speaker 3: I think it was your enthusiasm that made it all
Speaker 3: worth it even better. You get the award for a
Speaker 3: most Enthusiastic Intro.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, I take it. How are you?
Speaker 1: You have just released a film that you have written
Speaker 1: and directed? Is this correct?
Speaker 2: That is correct? The movie is called Wish You Were Here?
Speaker 2: Did you have a chance to see it? No pressure
Speaker 2: if you didn't, I.
Speaker 1: Just don't know if this is I'm afraid I did
Speaker 1: not have a chance to see it, and I only
Speaker 1: knew about it this morning. And I'm very excited that
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 3: No, it's not a test. Not a test. Not a test. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can talk about it fresh. That's yes. So it's
Speaker 3: called wh You Were Here? It's based on a book.
Speaker 3: It's been a career. I mean it's been a career long. No,
Speaker 3: something that I've wanted to do for at least the
Speaker 3: last ten years, and then five years ago an actress
Speaker 3: who's actually in the film sent me this book and
Speaker 3: said how about adapting this?
Speaker 2: And I fell in love with it.
Speaker 3: And now it's out in theaters and it's been such
Speaker 3: a it's very surreal.
Speaker 2: Right now it's finally out in theaters.
Speaker 1: And this is the first thing you directed, right, is
Speaker 1: that true?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I directed a couple of shorts, but that was
Speaker 3: many years ago, made a lot of mistakes or you know,
Speaker 3: learned from that.
Speaker 2: But it's been this is the first feature.
Speaker 1: How was the actual making of it? How did you
Speaker 1: find being a director?
Speaker 3: I loved it. I'm totally hooked. I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a ton of work and it's exhausting,
Speaker 3: especially when you're in production, but I've never felt more energized.
Speaker 2: There's something it's like going on along car trip.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're in the passenger seat, you start
Speaker 3: to doze off, but if you're the driver, you're like
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, it was really really exhilarating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's none of the boring bits when you're the director.
Speaker 1: There's no gaps. There's always something to do. There's always
Speaker 1: something to do.
Speaker 3: You always have to be thinking ten steps ahead and
Speaker 3: planning your whole day and ready to pivot if things
Speaker 3: go wrong, which they inevitably do. But that's more like
Speaker 3: the production filming part of it. I found that the
Speaker 3: editing room, which is a longer part of the process,
Speaker 3: that's months and months plus sound and color and all that,
Speaker 3: I found that really really enriching because it's where the
Speaker 3: craftsmanship comes in, and that's where you're sort of the
Speaker 3: final stages of piecing it all together and polishing it.
Speaker 3: And it's also kind of more like a nine to
Speaker 3: five job where I felt, yeah, a little more sane.
Speaker 1: That's true. Tell me this, because I'm always interested in
Speaker 1: the making of a film. How much changed from your
Speaker 1: initial vision of it, how much changed whilst filming? And
Speaker 1: then how much changed in the edit? Like how much
Speaker 1: of it did you change? The story? Did you change
Speaker 1: the order of things?
Speaker 2: I did change a lot from the book.
Speaker 3: I adapted the screenplay, and you know, I had the
Speaker 3: blessing of the novelist Renee Carlino. She read my first
Speaker 3: draft and then she gave me some notes, but she
Speaker 3: really said, you can make this your own. And I
Speaker 3: made it clear to her that I was trying to
Speaker 3: capture the spirit of her book and that there were
Speaker 3: so many things that I loved about it, the dialogue,
Speaker 3: the premise, the characters, and I pulled out the things
Speaker 3: that I wanted to highlight, but there was a lot
Speaker 3: that needed to be distilled for a film because it's
Speaker 3: just a completely different medium, you know. And then actually,
Speaker 3: it's funny, I went back and looked at I hadn't
Speaker 3: looked at the book or the script for such a
Speaker 3: long time, I guess, since we were in filming last year.
Speaker 3: And I went back, as I thought I was going
Speaker 3: to post on Instagram, like, I saw this thing that
Speaker 3: the Writer's Guild had done where they take like a
Speaker 3: snippet of the or a screen grab of the a
Speaker 3: portion of the script, and then the picture that's actually
Speaker 3: in the movie. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it was so different. I saw all my like chicken
Speaker 3: scratch notes and highlight or marks.
Speaker 2: But then yeah, there was so much that's different.
Speaker 3: And actually, one of the without giving it a way,
Speaker 3: a big twist in the film, there's a change that
Speaker 3: I made to the script three weeks before we were
Speaker 3: going to start shooting. That's pretty significant change, and it
Speaker 3: was because we couldn't afford we didn't have time or
Speaker 3: money for a larger sequence that I had, and I
Speaker 3: needed to simplify it. And I came up with this
Speaker 3: idea that's not in the book, and I was like, now,
Speaker 3: to me, it makes the whole movie. It makes it's
Speaker 3: one of my favorite parts of the whole piece.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: That's just to say that I think I really loved
Speaker 3: I think I really loved the problem solving side of
Speaker 3: being a director. I found that my commute to work,
Speaker 3: driving to the studio was often like hugely inspirational.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that means I.
Speaker 3: Was like being a bad driver and not really paying
Speaker 3: when I was very much in my own head. I
Speaker 3: feel like or walking, like walking and listening to headphones
Speaker 3: is very inspirational to me.
Speaker 1: Are you in the film?
Speaker 2: I am not. There wasn't really a part for me.
Speaker 3: I also think it's way too I don't know how
Speaker 3: people like Ben Affleck do it. I think it's too much.
Speaker 3: I don't have the bandwidth to be on both sides
Speaker 3: of the camera. I was really happy to not have
Speaker 3: to go into hair and makeup.
Speaker 2: Every morning and worry about what I look like.
Speaker 3: But there was a talk of me doing a cameo
Speaker 3: and I had written At one point I had written
Speaker 3: a scene that was like a half a page, just
Speaker 3: a little bit of me appearing in the film. But
Speaker 3: then I cut it. We never filmed it because I
Speaker 3: just thought it would be too distracting. It would take
Speaker 3: you out of the film if all of a sudden
Speaker 3: you saw a person that you recognize and you know
Speaker 3: is the director.
Speaker 2: It's just too much.
Speaker 1: That's fair. And how was it with working with the actors?
Speaker 1: I bet you were brilliantly directed, I think not.
Speaker 3: I think with the technical stuff like where to point
Speaker 3: the camera and lenses and all that, I felt very
Speaker 3: comfortable because I've spent decades in those conversations in a
Speaker 3: blocking rehearsal where you're listening to the director and the
Speaker 3: cinematographer talk about where they're going to point the camera.
Speaker 3: My husband works in the camera department, so we always
Speaker 3: talk about I've learned a lot from him about lenses
Speaker 3: and and focus, depth.
Speaker 2: Of field and all that.
Speaker 3: But with the actors, I think I did everything that
Speaker 3: I swore I would never do as a director, Like
Speaker 3: all the things that you kind of grit your teeth
Speaker 3: are like annoyed when a director gives you a line
Speaker 3: reading or says like just do it, just do it faster,
Speaker 3: or you know, go again, Okay, let's do it again.
Speaker 2: Let's do it again.
Speaker 3: You know, I had all these lofty ideas about I'm
Speaker 3: going to go in and I'm just gonna, like, not gonna,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give them a note before the first take,
Speaker 3: just so they have the space to figure it out.
Speaker 2: But you don't have time.
Speaker 3: And so I would jump in and be like, just happier,
Speaker 3: just do happier, pace it up.
Speaker 1: Pace it up.
Speaker 2: You know which I mean? I think my you know, honestly,
Speaker 2: you need to do you need to do line reading. Sometimes.
Speaker 3: Oh oh that was the other thing is that because
Speaker 3: I had I had the script in my head for
Speaker 3: so many years, I caught myself going, oh, wait, you're
Speaker 3: just giving them notes because you have an idea of
Speaker 3: how it's supposed to sound in your head. But why
Speaker 3: what's wrong with the way that they're doing it? So
Speaker 3: I did have to back off a little bit.
Speaker 1: Interest Yeah, the whole line reading thing. Sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 1: so I've had directors where they're talking around, talking around,
Speaker 1: talking abound, and I know they want to just give
Speaker 1: the line reading, but they're trying to find it and
Speaker 1: then just say it, just say how you hear it,
Speaker 1: and then at least understand what it is you're guy
Speaker 1: in FORO interesting.
Speaker 3: I will say now, now I do actually as an actress,
Speaker 3: I do appreciate a line reading, and I do appreciate
Speaker 3: just like this very direct, like just do it faster
Speaker 3: kind of thing, because sometimes that's more clear than some
Speaker 3: internal discussion.
Speaker 1: Did you have I guess you probably can't say, but
Speaker 1: I'm curious if you had behavior from any access such
Speaker 1: as like, hey, I've got loads of thoughts on the character.
Speaker 1: I think I'd like to change a lot of this
Speaker 1: where you were like, just fucking do it. I've written this,
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time on this.
Speaker 2: Well, let me say I will say that I think
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think my actors were. I just absolutely
Speaker 3: adore them, and they certainly wowed me and surprised me
Speaker 3: a lot. I think I was very sensitive to not
Speaker 3: pushing them too hard, even though I kind of knew
Speaker 3: that sometimes I needed to. There's a scene where the
Speaker 3: male lead, Minha Masud, he has a kind of breakdown
Speaker 3: in the hospital, and it's one of the pivotal moments
Speaker 3: of the film that launches the whole third act where
Speaker 3: he says, like, I can't just sit here and wait
Speaker 3: to die. I have to do something. You have to
Speaker 3: get me out of here. We have to go on
Speaker 3: a trip. And they do end up going on a trip.
Speaker 3: And you know, I did quite a few takes because
Speaker 3: he's a certain kind of actor where he brings, you know,
Speaker 3: his strength. Every actor has their strengths and then the
Speaker 3: things that they need to be pushed on, and his
Speaker 3: strength is a kind of groundedness. And I think it's also,
Speaker 3: particularly maybe for a male actor, very hard to show
Speaker 3: vulnerability like that, and so we had to do multiple
Speaker 3: takes and eventually he did break down in a wonderful way. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they all were fantastic. It was
Speaker 3: just figuring out it's like having different I don't want
Speaker 3: to say children, like they're not childish, but I mean
Speaker 3: it's like understanding different personalities and what can help guide
Speaker 3: them to where they need to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, congratulations, I'm excited to see it, and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that I haven't seen it, but that is a
Speaker 1: very cool thing.
Speaker 2: There were times.
Speaker 3: Again, this is to say that I think All the
Speaker 3: actors were wonderful, and I was so grateful to have
Speaker 3: them in the film, and particularly the lead Isabelle Firman.
Speaker 3: I knew that I had worked with her in a
Speaker 3: film where I played her mother, actually, and I could
Speaker 3: see that she had this dimina to be in every
Speaker 3: scene every day, which I needed for Wish you were here.
Speaker 3: But I think that if there were any you know,
Speaker 3: I definitely if anyone couldn't remember a line, I think
Speaker 3: you know this as an actor, you go back and
Speaker 3: you go, Okay, there must be something with the writing
Speaker 3: that's passing them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Most of the time. Most of the time, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's very true. Yeah, it's like a note in it.
Speaker 1: When they can't remember it, you're like, something's not yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Save the Last Dance All Time
Speaker 1: Classic tend things out about you all time Classic. You
Speaker 1: are in an unusual position of I don't know how
Speaker 1: old you were when these films happened, but I imagine
Speaker 1: fairly young, and these were iconic. You're sort of genuinely iconic,
Speaker 1: by which I mean you mean a lot of things
Speaker 1: to a lot of people, and I imagine you're not
Speaker 1: in control of any of that. You are the avatar
Speaker 1: of a lot of meaning to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and I wonder how that was and is to actually
Speaker 1: live through as a human person.
Speaker 3: As a human person, I mean, I'm still living through it.
Speaker 2: I would what was it like to live through?
Speaker 1: What was it like to live through? Then? What is
Speaker 1: it like to live through now? I suppose simple, just
Speaker 1: a simple question, what is your existence? What is tell
Speaker 1: me about existence?
Speaker 3: I think I'm only now, you know, or recently, really
Speaker 3: really appreciating it and really focused on, like really taking
Speaker 3: it in the significance of being a performer that can
Speaker 3: continue working for many years and have people still talking
Speaker 3: about the work that you've done. At the time when
Speaker 3: it was happening, it was very surreal, and I think
Speaker 3: I had a kind I went through many different stages
Speaker 3: of how to. I don't want to say cope with it,
Speaker 3: because it's not a negative thing. It's just a very
Speaker 3: unique thing to walk down the street and have people
Speaker 3: recognize your face and say, oh, I've seen you on
Speaker 3: my TV screen. It's a relationship with the world that
Speaker 3: is changing and takes a little getting used to. It
Speaker 3: can be everything from super exciting to a super scary
Speaker 3: and I was very young when it started with me,
Speaker 3: so over the course of the last twenty years twenty
Speaker 3: five years, it's been a process of figuring out what
Speaker 3: that is, how I feel about it, how to navigate it,
Speaker 3: and many different evolutions, how to how to appreciate it,
Speaker 3: how to try and control it when it feels a
Speaker 3: little overwhelming.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have a really great therapist.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, what's your what's your tip
Speaker 1: for when it's overwhelming? But is it therapy? Get the therapist?
Speaker 3: Well, no, I know, no, I think I mean, that's
Speaker 3: part of part of it, but I think more than that,
Speaker 3: it's Living in New York City is really helpful because
Speaker 3: you are forced to engage with the world and there's
Speaker 3: lots of stuff going on around you that has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with you, and so that's a good way
Speaker 3: to keep thinking anything that really can keep it in perspective.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm coming off the promotional train of this movie,
Speaker 3: which you were here and can just so, I think
Speaker 3: I've always had this aversion to feeling like or this
Speaker 3: awareness of like, uh oh, we're thinking about you're thinking
Speaker 3: about yourself too much? Yeah, wait, you focus, you're in
Speaker 3: your own little bubble where you think everybody's looking at
Speaker 3: your Instagram posts, but actually they're not.
Speaker 2: There's a lot more going on around you, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's something.
Speaker 3: That was That was the thing that made me nervous
Speaker 3: as a twenty something year old. But now I think
Speaker 3: I can I understand it. I navigate it more, I
Speaker 3: manage it more.
Speaker 1: Listen, I don't actively look for these things. So I
Speaker 1: may be wrong about this, but you've seemed to me
Speaker 1: someone who has existed as a successful, famous, good actor
Speaker 1: who I don't know anything about your private life, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you seem to have stayed out
Speaker 1: of Unless I'm completely wrong, I don't feel I see you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You exist as someone I
Speaker 1: know is a very it does very good work. But
Speaker 1: you seem to have maintained a private life. Is that true?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: That thank you so much. That's wonderful.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's I have always admired and wanted to
Speaker 3: emulate actors that you don't know that much about, because
Speaker 3: it's easier to believe them as somebody else in a story.
Speaker 3: But I but I mean, you know, but there's always
Speaker 3: there's always our personal lives and our hobbies or whatever.
Speaker 3: We you know, just little anecdotes about our lives go
Speaker 3: hand in hand with promoting whatever it is that is
Speaker 3: coming out. So inevitably we're gonna know more. You're going
Speaker 3: to have to open up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in that way.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad to hear that. It's it's not too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, never. But like some people, you see an awful
Speaker 1: lot and they're photographs everywhere, and sometimes I'm like, I
Speaker 1: always wonder how much of it is a choice, how
Speaker 1: much of it is completely out of their control, and
Speaker 1: whether it's a thing that you decided very early on
Speaker 1: to stay out of or I don't know how you
Speaker 1: can't completely control it. But were you always this way?
Speaker 1: I suppose.
Speaker 2: I think I've been pretty protective of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great, I love it. I love it do
Speaker 1: these styles. I've forgotten to tell you something I should
Speaker 1: have told you up top, and it's fucking mad that
Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, shit, this is what you've died.
Speaker 1: You're dead. You're dead. You are no longer with us,
Speaker 1: You're dead. Sorry, how did you die? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, god, you really went there? You really went there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I keep waiting for you to say like in
Speaker 3: the Jason Bourne movie, and now you're talking about like
Speaker 3: existential existential.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're dead and thanks for spoiling the Born movies.
Speaker 1: You're dead.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: These are the things that we always have we avoid, actively,
Speaker 3: actively avoid thinking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And this is again why I'm very grateful you're
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. How did you die?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: I'm going to start crying Jesus, this is what I
Speaker 3: sort through and wish you were here?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: This is what has been brought up in Wish you
Speaker 3: Were Here endlessly for the last five years with me,
Speaker 3: and particularly in the last year when we were making
Speaker 3: the movie. This is not shameless self promotion. I'm going
Speaker 3: to answer your question. But this has been stirring in me.
Speaker 3: This has been stirring in me for years because and
Speaker 3: I've been I've been channeling it through Wish You Were Here.
Speaker 3: Because one of the reasons I picked this book and
Speaker 3: wanted to make it a movie was I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: the main characters are so young for and they have
Speaker 3: a very young romance, but it's actually a much more
Speaker 3: mature story because what they're dealing with is issues of mortality.
Speaker 3: And I felt it on set when they play this
Speaker 3: game where they tell each other a story of this
Speaker 3: imagined love affair that they have together as though they
Speaker 3: are an older couple looking back on a lifetime of memories.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I can't tell you how the lumps
Speaker 3: in my throat for the last over a year longer
Speaker 3: than that, and it tugs at something that is definitely
Speaker 3: on my mind. And I could see it with the
Speaker 3: crew too. They were the clemmed a lot as well.
Speaker 3: So how do I okay? I ask, is.
Speaker 1: This a constant thing that plays on your mind? And
Speaker 1: the ways has ord? Has this been recently in the
Speaker 1: last five years, this has been.
Speaker 2: In the last seven years, I would say since I
Speaker 2: became a mother.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Interesting, the anxiety has it's always bubbling under the surface,
Speaker 3: and it's just a question of how to keep it
Speaker 3: tampered down and not let it rob you of the
Speaker 3: joy of everyday life. Oh my god, people, I must
Speaker 3: answer this in so many different ways. I don't want
Speaker 3: to think about it.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 1: You could make we can make it fun. You could.
Speaker 1: You also couldn't diet three hundred years out.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna die, well, not too long because I don't
Speaker 3: want to outlive my kids.
Speaker 2: I'm uh I.
Speaker 3: I have a dance party, hug and kiss, almost like
Speaker 3: the reverse of a wedding, or like a buttontz foot
Speaker 3: or something like. You have a big party, dance my
Speaker 3: face off, drink, hug and kiss everybody.
Speaker 2: But that's the point of not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 3: Hug and kiss everyone that I love, in particular my family,
Speaker 3: and then we cozy up with blankets and go to
Speaker 3: sleep and cuddle and I go peacefully.
Speaker 1: In the night. How old do you want to be
Speaker 1: when this happens?
Speaker 2: Ninety?
Speaker 3: Okay, it depends on my physical shape, but I think
Speaker 3: if I'm having a dance party, I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2: One of my best friends her grandmother, I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: We would go visit her country house, and her grandmother
Speaker 3: was like eighty five years old and would just sit
Speaker 3: in her chair, eating peanut m and ms in a glass
Speaker 3: bowl and drinking her vodka and just letting everybody talk
Speaker 3: and do their stuff around her and watching it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, that's fun. I think that's
Speaker 2: a good way to go into old age.
Speaker 1: That's nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say eighty five or ninety.
Speaker 1: Can I ask and feel free to no answer. So
Speaker 1: you've started feeling this way since you had children. Do
Speaker 1: you think the anxiety is more like because you need
Speaker 1: to be around to protect your children, or because you
Speaker 1: don't to miss out on your children, or all of
Speaker 1: the above, all of the above.
Speaker 3: And I think also you're just way more aware of
Speaker 3: life than the opposite and the preciousness of life, I mean,
Speaker 3: because I think I feel like in my twenties and
Speaker 3: thirty early thirties, I was like so care free, like
Speaker 3: that feeling of being invincible. I used to do the
Speaker 3: craziest things on film sets because I thought that there
Speaker 3: was this like invincibility when a camera's on you.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: I remember filming that film, It's like the little independent
Speaker 3: film with Jeremy Renner and Forest Whitaker in Iceland, and
Speaker 3: there was a stunt where the we're supposed to drive
Speaker 3: a car off of a cliff as like an insurance
Speaker 3: f odd thing, and of course they have divers and
Speaker 3: stuck people to do it. But I was like, but
Speaker 3: I want to jump off the cliff. You're gonna put
Speaker 3: the camera on me and I'm gonna jump off the cliff.
Speaker 3: And I had to really talk them into it because
Speaker 3: it's an insurance. I mean it's a hazard if the
Speaker 3: actor gets hurt. And they indulged me. They got like
Speaker 3: divers to wait in the water so that they could
Speaker 3: pull me out because of what it was Iceland, that
Speaker 3: it was very cold, and we did one take. And
Speaker 3: I look back on that well, like, never in a
Speaker 3: million years would I do that, Like what was I thinking?
Speaker 2: But you were thinking.
Speaker 3: I was thinking of if a camera's on me, nothing
Speaker 3: can happen. I mean other stunts in movies too, where
Speaker 3: I would never in a million years do it now.
Speaker 3: And I think it's because, yeah, you're just aware of
Speaker 3: the coming and going.
Speaker 1: I've never thought of it like that. Tell me this,
Speaker 1: what do you think happens after you die? Do you
Speaker 1: think there's enough to life?
Speaker 2: This is a.
Speaker 3: Scene in the movie. This is a conversation that they
Speaker 3: have spoil it for you. I think, well, I will
Speaker 3: answer that myself. But you know a lot of my
Speaker 3: voices in this film too, And I although these were
Speaker 3: lines from the book, but you know there's a reason that.
Speaker 2: I plucked them out.
Speaker 3: The main characters say to each other, the guy's dying
Speaker 3: and the prognosis is not good, and she says to him,
Speaker 3: are you scared? And he goes no, and she goes,
Speaker 3: have you thought about what happens after? And he says
Speaker 3: he says, he thinks it's lights out, baby, and she says, no,
Speaker 3: that's not true. I think that the memories that we create.
Speaker 3: I think your artwork, the influence that you have over
Speaker 3: other people their memories of you, that's what keeps you
Speaker 3: alive anyway, So what.
Speaker 2: Do I think it happens to our consciousness?
Speaker 3: So obviously I was like exploring all these questions in
Speaker 3: the film, But I what do I think happens? There's
Speaker 3: a part of me that does think it's lights out,
Speaker 3: like we don't have a consciousness anymore. But I do
Speaker 3: believe that there's an energetic I am spiritual, like, I
Speaker 3: think there's an energetic resonance, and that the memories that
Speaker 3: people have of us do you keep us alive in
Speaker 3: some way? But I think in terms of our own consciousness,
Speaker 3: I think I don't think. I don't think we're up
Speaker 3: in the clouds looking over and everybody.
Speaker 1: Well, Julia, the answer you know what happens?
Speaker 2: Tell me, ah, where have you been?
Speaker 1: Yes, there's a heaven. You're going straight to heaven and
Speaker 1: while you're up there, you're going to have a lovely time.
Speaker 1: And then if you want to come back in a
Speaker 1: different form and try something else, you can do. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, there's a heaven and you're going to it,
Speaker 1: and everyone is so excited to see you in heaven,
Speaker 1: and it is filled with your favorite thing. What's your
Speaker 1: favorite thing?
Speaker 2: A thing? Not not people? Music. Music.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's filled with music. Oh my god. Every room
Speaker 1: a different genre. There's live music, there's dance music. There's
Speaker 1: everything you want in all the rooms. But also everyone
Speaker 1: wants to talk to you about your life, but they
Speaker 1: want to talk about your life through film. And the
Speaker 1: first thing they ask you is what is the first
Speaker 1: film you remember seeing? Julia Styles at home? It was
Speaker 1: Adventures in Babysitting Nice.
Speaker 3: No, you know I actually saw that, well, I had
Speaker 3: the VHS, but we also went to the It was
Speaker 3: the first PG thirteen movie I was allowed to see,
Speaker 3: and we saw it in the theater.
Speaker 2: There must have been one earlier than that.
Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like I remember only because I think
Speaker 3: I got my cousins in trouble. That my cousins came
Speaker 3: to sleep over and we went to the video store
Speaker 3: and I picked I was two years older Ernest Safe's Christmas,
Speaker 3: and they got they were not allowed to see a
Speaker 3: movie like that.
Speaker 1: Likes it's so outrighteous.
Speaker 3: So I was the bad. I was the bad I
Speaker 3: was the bad cousin. It was the bad influence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you watched Adventures in Babysitting, do you remember thinking,
Speaker 1: fucking hew, this is brilliant. I want to do this.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: Actually, I like the opening dance scene that Elizabeth Shoe does.
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Another movie that my mom.
Speaker 3: Insist she took me to see in the theater, but
Speaker 3: I was like five years old when it came out,
Speaker 3: so I don't know how that worked out, but which
Speaker 3: was a huge reference for wish you were here desperately
Speaker 3: seeking Susan.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 3: Madonna made me want to be an actress or I
Speaker 3: just wanted to be like her, and I just I remember,
Speaker 3: on such a subconscious level as a little girl, thinking
Speaker 3: like I really tapped into this identity crisis that Rosanna
Speaker 3: Arquette was having, wanting to get out of the suburbs
Speaker 3: and kind of wanting to emulate Madonna's free spirited.
Speaker 2: Life in the East village.
Speaker 3: And then I watched the movie over and over and
Speaker 3: over and over again when I was prepping which You
Speaker 3: Were Here, and it really holds up. But I used
Speaker 3: it as references for like costume and production design and
Speaker 3: the color scheme. And it's a much lighter film than
Speaker 3: I think Wish You Were Here is.
Speaker 2: But visually I was. I was really into it.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up in You?
Speaker 2: I did? And actually the theater that is in the movie.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, but at the very
Speaker 3: end they go to a movie theater and it's Bleaker
Speaker 3: Street Cinemas, which was on Bleaker Street and LaGuardia Place.
Speaker 3: And I grew up in Soho, kind of near the
Speaker 3: West Village. And I mean, maybe it's apocryphal, but I
Speaker 3: feel like I've talked about it with my mom that
Speaker 3: we went to go see it at that theater.
Speaker 2: So meta.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, what a great reference. And it hasn't
Speaker 1: come up on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Look at my hair. Look at my hair. My hair
Speaker 2: is totally Madonna hair from that era.
Speaker 1: What is the film that scared you the most? Do
Speaker 1: you like being scared?
Speaker 3: I do not like being scared, and I don't like
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a certain kind of it's a certain
Speaker 3: kind of scared, like those deep fears that we have.
Speaker 3: I remember being very scared of Freddy. What were the
Speaker 3: Freddy Krueger movies Elm Street? Yeah, there was something super
Speaker 3: creepy about those, But then silence of the lambs. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm kind of easily scared.
Speaker 1: I think I think Freddy Krueger is fair to be
Speaker 1: scared by day. It is a Peter File that's been
Speaker 1: set on fire and has scissors for hands. Scared.
Speaker 2: But there was a video game of it.
Speaker 3: I had the little Nintendo, the Gray Nintendo, and there
Speaker 3: was a Nightmare on Elm Street video game, and that
Speaker 3: just even the freakin' theme music was.
Speaker 2: Too much funny.
Speaker 1: About crying? What is the film that made you cry
Speaker 1: the most? Do you like crying? Are you a crier?
Speaker 3: I like, I enjoy a good cry. I made a
Speaker 3: movie about that tries to get you to have a
Speaker 3: good cry.
Speaker 2: I cry a lot at the end.
Speaker 3: I mean I cried for personal reasons a lot at
Speaker 3: the end of Wish you were here from just like
Speaker 3: the overwhelm of or not overwhelmed, just the joy and
Speaker 3: all the emotions of like WHOA I made this I
Speaker 3: made this, we made.
Speaker 1: This, But oh, side question about your film then that
Speaker 1: I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I'm also not just trying to promote my movie. This
Speaker 2: is a genuine answer.
Speaker 1: No, yes, I'm in. But when you're editing a film,
Speaker 1: which sounds like frankly devastating from everything you've said, but
Speaker 1: when you're editing it, and there are the bits that
Speaker 1: if the film is working for an audience, they will
Speaker 1: cry at did you find yourself in the way that
Speaker 1: with a comedy sometimes you edit it for so long
Speaker 1: that you can't laugh anymore. You forget that it's funny.
Speaker 1: Maybe did you get to the point of, like, I
Speaker 1: don't find this movie anymore and I have to assume
Speaker 1: it still is or was it always? Did it always
Speaker 1: work for you? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: There are moments that always worked for me, and then
Speaker 3: there were moments where I was able to be a
Speaker 3: little bit more objective, which I don't think is a
Speaker 3: bad thing either. But I'm trying to think other movies
Speaker 3: that other movies that make me cry, Like you know,
Speaker 3: it's silly things like the beginning of Dumbo, when when
Speaker 3: the elephant, when the elephant, when Dumbo puts his ear
Speaker 3: out and yeah, all that, you know.
Speaker 1: All that Dumbo is a fucking killer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you love? Most people don't
Speaker 1: like it. It is not critically acclaimed, but you love
Speaker 1: it unconditionally.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know if it's I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's not critically acclaimed. It's kind of a it's a
Speaker 3: cult classic.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Well, so I do think that people. There's definitely fans
Speaker 3: of this movie. The movie Clue is like literally one
Speaker 3: of my all time favorite comedies and I know it
Speaker 3: by heart. I mean I could we had two hours more,
Speaker 3: I could sit here recite the whole movie to you.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of the most tim Prey in
Speaker 3: his prime.
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty It wasn't well received at the time,
Speaker 1: and I think now I think that's a good shot.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, because it was fucking brilliant always.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about on the other end of the scale, a
Speaker 1: film that you used to love but you've watched it
Speaker 1: recently and you've gone, oh, I don't like this anymore,
Speaker 1: perhaps because you have changed, not the film.
Speaker 3: I want to say, like, either no disrespect to putting Tarantino. Either,
Speaker 3: movies like Reservoir dogs or pulp fiction. We love pulp
Speaker 3: fiction when it came out, and I wanted.
Speaker 2: To be cool, so I liked it too.
Speaker 3: But that kind of violence to me, I can't really
Speaker 3: stomach anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, fair enough. What is the film that means
Speaker 1: the most to you? Not necessarily the film is good,
Speaker 1: but the experience you had around seeing the film will
Speaker 1: always make it important to you. Julius Styles, hmmm, so.
Speaker 2: Distracting when you call me them phone name. Not distracting.
Speaker 3: It just feels like lots of important emotional weight is
Speaker 3: put on this answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big one. This one a big one.
Speaker 3: More recently, I think the Lobster. I remember seeing the
Speaker 3: Lobster Yogo Slanthromosis film in theaters and going like, whoa,
Speaker 3: this is brilliant. This is absolutely brilliant. And it's the
Speaker 3: power of going to the theater and being forced to
Speaker 3: turn off your phone and just focus on being taken
Speaker 3: away in a story. Is what we what we I
Speaker 3: crave experiencing, and that was definitely one of those things
Speaker 3: one of those experiences for me. Silly enough, I think
Speaker 3: also straight out of Compton, do you remember.
Speaker 2: That movie about Nwa.
Speaker 3: Just I'm thinking just the experience of being in the
Speaker 3: theater because I went to go see it, and I
Speaker 3: was very nostalgic about that music as a dumb little
Speaker 3: white girl in middle school who again wanted to be
Speaker 3: cool and was kind of because everybody was into that music,
Speaker 3: or at least at my school they were.
Speaker 2: I was too.
Speaker 3: And there's a term fronting, and I feel like fronting
Speaker 3: meaning you're it's like, not like there's something anyway, there's
Speaker 3: something so silly about but it was a very but.
Speaker 2: I was because it's not planet.
Speaker 3: But I'm watching the movie and I'm really really enjoying
Speaker 3: it and feeling like really tough. And there was like
Speaker 3: a girl two people behind me who were talking the
Speaker 3: whole time, really loudly at the screen, and I, for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, decided to turn around and be like, you know,
Speaker 3: first I gave them the Seinfeld like half stare, and
Speaker 3: that didn't work. And then and somehow I became sort
Speaker 3: of belligerent and was like told them to please be quiet.
Speaker 1: And fuck it, I fucking gave it to it.
Speaker 3: She and she quickly put me in my place, and
Speaker 3: then you realized that I'm just I'm not as tough
Speaker 3: as I sound. My bark and so she she said
Speaker 3: something like like she was gonna cut me or.
Speaker 2: I don't know if so.
Speaker 3: It scared me so much I shut up and we
Speaker 3: just watched the movie and I was like, before the
Speaker 3: lights come up, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeh, that's fucking really makes the rest of that film intense.
Speaker 1: And that they were behind you as well. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry.
Speaker 2: Oh this could be a totally this could be a
Speaker 2: totally inappropriate story to tell.
Speaker 3: But it speaking of just remembering more or the experience
Speaker 3: of being in the theater than just the movie itself.
Speaker 3: This is so awkward. I don't know why I'm even
Speaker 3: bringing this up. I went to go see Blue is
Speaker 3: the warmest color in theaters and like, that movie is
Speaker 3: so graphic. To be sitting next to strangers, it's so explicit,
Speaker 3: to be sitting next to strangers is so uncomfortable. But
Speaker 3: the person next to me was eating Chinese food, Like what.
Speaker 1: What like nudles? Yes, nudles with chopsteaks.
Speaker 2: And like didn't pause in the full on.
Speaker 1: Sex thirty five minutes sex scene. Yes, that's righteous. So
Speaker 1: are you aligned seeing this film? No?
Speaker 2: I went with a friend, but was very.
Speaker 1: I believe that's great. Didn't stop. Didn't stop for the
Speaker 1: sex scene out of respect to car Still.
Speaker 3: Hungry, Still hungry, could wait, couldn't wait a couple more minutes.
Speaker 1: What is the film you most relate Tom.
Speaker 3: Desperately seeking Susan again, that storyline. I think that's why
Speaker 3: it still resonates with me many many years later. It
Speaker 3: just Roseanne arcad character creating the freedom that Madonna has.
Speaker 1: Okay, Julia, what is the sexiest film you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: I didn't use your full name, so it didn't freak
Speaker 1: you out.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean obviously Jerdie Dancing comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, holds up.
Speaker 3: The Notebook is really sexy. Yeah, Notebook's really sexy. Oh,
Speaker 3: please be on the pines. I love that film. Yeah, underrated, Juliet.
Speaker 1: If you've listened to the show, you'll know that there's
Speaker 1: a subcategory to this question, traveling boners worrying why duns
Speaker 1: film you found a rousing that you weren't sure you
Speaker 1: should say that again? Saying it? The sub category is
Speaker 1: traveling boners worrying why duns a film you found a
Speaker 1: rousing that you weren't sure you should? Please? Don't maybe
Speaker 1: say it again?
Speaker 2: No, No, I heard it.
Speaker 1: I heard it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: Arousing. Oh man, Oh, I mean I want to say
Speaker 3: Romancing the Stone. I'm thinking or overboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, overboard, answer over it's a great answer. Yeah, complicated,
Speaker 1: complicated things going on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that the tone is a comedy.
Speaker 1: But I found it really hot. It's very sexy. But
Speaker 1: also she has been kidnapped, yes, and but it is hot.
Speaker 1: That is a great answer. Yeah, Okay, well done, thank you.
Speaker 1: We can move past that. Now. What is objectively, objectively
Speaker 1: the greatest film ever made? Might not be your favorite,
Speaker 1: but it is the best of cinema?
Speaker 2: Cool hand, Luke. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 3: Like when you think of the best of cinema, I
Speaker 3: want to think of like something visually very stunning, But
Speaker 3: I go back to the performances and the story and
Speaker 3: Paul Newman still captivating in that, and the chain gang
Speaker 3: and the human spirit trying to break out of this captivity.
Speaker 1: It's pretty great, pretty great, great answer. You can have it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you ten points.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We're done. We're done. You're on the board.
Speaker 3: We went out, we left, we left. Screening of a
Speaker 3: Q and A of whish you were here. And somebody
Speaker 3: on the street asked me who was in film school?
Speaker 3: And he asked me, like, tell me a movie that
Speaker 3: I have to see, or a director that I have
Speaker 3: to follow, or tell me the best movie of all time.
Speaker 3: And I said, because it was on my mind. I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what I think is really underrated.
Speaker 3: It is Desperately Seeking Susan and Susan Seidelman is an
Speaker 3: amazing director.
Speaker 2: And my husband scolded me and he was like, you
Speaker 2: need to say something like Casablanca. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, tell me this. What is
Speaker 1: the film you could or have? What's the most over
Speaker 1: and over again?
Speaker 2: Could or have?
Speaker 1: It's Desperately Seeking Susan.
Speaker 2: No, no, I would say, it's Clue Again. I know
Speaker 2: it by heart. Flames, keeping flames on the side of
Speaker 2: my face.
Speaker 1: Breath breaths, keep going.
Speaker 3: And you had a weapon, and you had a webinar.
Speaker 3: You had a weapon, and you have had a weapon.
Speaker 3: One plus two plus two plus one. Communism is just
Speaker 3: a red herring. That was the medley, That was a medic.
Speaker 1: Do a one woman show where you do all of Clue.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you would sell out for three years.
Speaker 2: Done. Done.
Speaker 1: That's a fucking great idea. What is the worst film
Speaker 1: you've ever seen? We don't like to be negative. Whether
Speaker 1: you want to navigate this question.
Speaker 2: Mm oh man? I uh or oh man, I can't.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to insult people and get
Speaker 3: hate mail, because the worst is, you know, what is
Speaker 3: a bad film?
Speaker 2: It's really you have to I think you have to.
Speaker 3: You have to explain why I would say that gratuitousness
Speaker 3: is annoying to me, because then that you could hear
Speaker 3: you veer into when something's so bad you like, like
Speaker 3: it's funny, and then that's okay too, that's okay too.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to pile on because I
Speaker 3: feel bad for the actress and it Elizabeth Berkeley. But
Speaker 3: everybody you know talks about strip tea strip tease. That
Speaker 3: was to me more the show Girls. Yeah you know
Speaker 3: that that now becomes a comedy. And again I don't
Speaker 3: want to pile on because it's not her fault. It
Speaker 3: was she didn't direct the movie. Then I can think
Speaker 3: of a more serious film that everybody loves last year.
Speaker 3: But if I say that that I didn't I did
Speaker 3: not appreciate it. It's not really that. It's not anyone's fault. No,
Speaker 3: it's too much. I can't especially now that I've made
Speaker 3: a film, I can't handle it. Like there's so much
Speaker 3: work that goes into making films. I don't mind if
Speaker 3: somebody takes a swing and misses or you know, I'm
Speaker 3: more of like if you're going for it's usually the
Speaker 3: bigger studio movies where it's just like it's like color
Speaker 3: paint by numbers, or they're just putting things together that
Speaker 3: they expect audience to see.
Speaker 2: It's like creating by committee.
Speaker 3: I'll say one of my own movies actually that I
Speaker 3: think was executed very poorly. There, I'll turn it back around,
Speaker 3: so I'm not hurting anybody's feelings. It was a movie
Speaker 3: called Down to You with Freddy Prince Junior. He's lovely,
Speaker 3: wonderful actor. Yes, but it was a time. It was
Speaker 3: a time when teen rom coms were really popular. And
Speaker 3: the script and the director wrote the script. He was
Speaker 3: a first time director and he was a very very
Speaker 3: intelligent and capable guy. The script was very good, and
Speaker 3: then Harvey Weinstein got his hands on it and decided
Speaker 3: to capital on this trend and it just became dumb.
Speaker 3: Like as far as I remember it, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: it a long time, but I remember when we were
Speaker 3: filming it. We came back to and they're pouring money
Speaker 3: at it, like in stupid ways. So when we went
Speaker 3: and did reshoots, and I'm told that he decided that
Speaker 3: because of the success of Save Last Dance or the
Speaker 3: success of Ten Things I Hate About You with me
Speaker 3: dancing on the pool table, he like needed to have
Speaker 3: me dancing in the film. And it wasn't like I
Speaker 3: would I would make a whole movie dancing. I love
Speaker 3: to dance, but it was like dumb. It was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's let's get her on a pool table and have
Speaker 3: and try, and you know, it wasn't even imaginative and
Speaker 3: I felt so slimy doing it the whole time.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if that actually made it
Speaker 2: in the film, but it.
Speaker 3: Was annoying to It was annoying because I was like, well,
Speaker 3: this is this is so cheap and it's not adding
Speaker 3: to the story and this is not like.
Speaker 1: It's not a creative it's not a creative reason. There's
Speaker 1: no cre activity behind it. Yeah, Julie s Das you
Speaker 1: navigated that so beautifully. You went through all the reasons
Speaker 1: why you shouldn't talk about things, and everyone works hard,
Speaker 1: and then you managed to bring up Harvey Weinstein. So
Speaker 1: therefore you're observed of everything. This is a really good way,
Speaker 1: really really good way.
Speaker 2: And by the way I will do we'll say about
Speaker 2: strip to sure Girls.
Speaker 3: Sorry again, I even hate that I said that because
Speaker 3: piling on to Let's not make fun of Elizabeth Berkeley.
Speaker 3: It's not her fault. And what annoys me about that
Speaker 3: movie is the exploitation of her. It's like putting her
Speaker 3: up there too. It's just yeah, it's just that's interesting.
Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, down to you. You can rent it
Speaker 3: and see. Tell me if the dancing on the pool
Speaker 3: table scene is still there because it was stupid and
Speaker 3: we shouldn't have shot it.
Speaker 1: What is the film that made you laugh the most?
Speaker 2: Bridesmaids? Correct, and I will watch.
Speaker 3: I will just flip on YouTube and watch that scene
Speaker 3: in the airplane when I feel like I need to
Speaker 3: get a little pick me up.
Speaker 1: Still hasn't been topped Bridesmaids.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 1: Julius Styles, you have been wonderful. However, when you were
Speaker 1: ninety years old, you had a dance party. You had
Speaker 1: been sat there on your chair, eating peanut Eminem's and
Speaker 1: drinking vodka, and then all your family and friends gathered
Speaker 1: around and you said, is it time for the dance party?
Speaker 1: And they said yeah. You got up and you danced.
Speaker 1: You danced twelve hours straight. All your favorite songs, you had,
Speaker 1: everything was playing, all the different types of music that
Speaker 1: you've loved for your life. And you're with your kids
Speaker 1: and with your husband, with your friends, and you're dancing
Speaker 1: dunce and it's really really great. And then after twelve hours,
Speaker 1: you will collapse onto a giant, giant couch and you
Speaker 1: have a cuddle and you're cuddled and snuggled up together,
Speaker 1: and then you close your eyes and you fall asleep.
Speaker 1: And then while you're asleep, you have a massive brain
Speaker 1: memorryjur and you die. I'm walking past with a coffin,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, and I go, hey, everyone ever's
Speaker 1: part around the catch And I go, where's Julia Styles?
Speaker 1: And they go, oh, she's just napping. And they go, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I think she's dead. And I go, oh shit, all right,
Speaker 1: So I say, oh, come and help me, and basically
Speaker 1: we get you into the coffin, but I've misjudged the
Speaker 1: size of the coffin. You are going to fit in
Speaker 1: that we have to get so I'm like, everyone, can
Speaker 1: you get around? Grab access? And we got access. Everyone access.
Speaker 1: Start chopping you up, chopping you up into pieces. We
Speaker 1: chop you up, and then we put you in a
Speaker 1: blender and we pour it all into the coffin. And
Speaker 1: the coffin is absolutely full. There's only enough room in
Speaker 1: this coffin for me to slip one DVD into the
Speaker 1: side for you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 1: And on the other side, it's movie night every night.
Speaker 1: What film are you taking to show everyone in music
Speaker 1: Heaven when it is your movie night to their styles? Wow?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm got to pick a good music movie.
Speaker 1: It was really wired. I was going to make you
Speaker 1: cry with your death.
Speaker 3: No, because I know I have many coping mechanisms too
Speaker 3: that happen. Although that sounds like a beautiful thing. That
Speaker 3: sounds like a beautiful it's actually my favorite death that
Speaker 3: we've had so far on this.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of music documentaries, but that I don't want
Speaker 2: to play that in Heaven. Oh what if I.
Speaker 3: Did like a whole panel for every all the musicians
Speaker 3: and having like you know, Simone documentary or most recently
Speaker 3: there's this Sly Slide and the family Stone documentary Sly Lives,
Speaker 3: and then maybe the band you like that concert that
Speaker 3: Scorsese did Woodstock.
Speaker 1: So you're doing a sort of festival up in heaven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a music festivor and a music duck festival with
Speaker 1: a Q and A with the actual musicians.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and like, oh, how accurate was that depiction?
Speaker 2: Was that a good interpretation?
Speaker 3: Maybe some musicals thrown in there with the most recent
Speaker 3: West Side Story boz Lehman's West Side Story.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't believe.
Speaker 3: I didn't mention in any of the questions, very specific questions,
Speaker 3: so I'll have to figure out what category this would
Speaker 3: fit into. But the boz Lehmon's Romeo and Juliet, well,
Speaker 3: that was revolutionary and that was I auditioned for that,
Speaker 3: But yeah I did, But I mean I was completely
Speaker 3: I was like in the general casting call, I was
Speaker 3: nowhere near the echelon that Claire Danes was at the time,
Speaker 3: and she was fantastic in it. So everything happens for
Speaker 3: a reason. That was such a beautiful movie, that was
Speaker 3: a beautiful movie. So what category would that fit into?
Speaker 2: Memorable?
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, you're going to listen. Normally
Speaker 1: it has to be one DVD. But because you're putting
Speaker 1: on an entire festival and it's really involving everyone, and
Speaker 1: it feels like what you've really done in Heaven is
Speaker 1: you've turned it into a community and I love that.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a music festival, but you're also
Speaker 1: taking Romeo plus Juliet Juts. Please tell us before you
Speaker 1: leave how where to watch your film and if there's
Speaker 1: anything else we should be looking out for in the
Speaker 1: coming months.
Speaker 2: It's called Wish You Were Here.
Speaker 3: It's available in the US, oh, digitally anywhere you rent
Speaker 3: or buy movies, Prime, Fandango, Apple, and then I think
Speaker 3: internationally it'll be coming out later.
Speaker 2: In the year in May.
Speaker 3: For just like ninety minutes, turn off the cynical part
Speaker 3: of your brain and hopefully you can enjoy a good laugh,
Speaker 3: a good cry.
Speaker 2: Maybe you'll laugh while you cry.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I worry I'm going to find your
Speaker 1: film absolutely devastating. Is that correct?
Speaker 3: There's definitely moments of levity to suck you in the being. Yes,
Speaker 3: it is. Heart wrenching, but ultimately very hopeful. It's not
Speaker 3: going to leave you in a pile of despair. It's
Speaker 3: going to make you. My intent was to make you
Speaker 3: see the beauty in life and you know, appreciate the
Speaker 3: life's preciousness. But that's also that's also that's fary devastating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Julius Darts, thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 1: You have been wonderful. I look forward to seeing your
Speaker 1: film and whatever you do in the future. I wish
Speaker 1: you a lovely death. Good day to you. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Thank you so much. I finished recording with Julia,
Speaker 1: and then that day she sent me a number of
Speaker 1: voice notes that she once included in the podcast. So
Speaker 1: here they are, Brett.
Speaker 3: It was such a pleasure to talk to you. I'm
Speaker 3: laughing because the nerd in me is now sending you
Speaker 3: a PostScript or a post podcast voice memo. And I've
Speaker 3: recorded it now three times, and I realized that I'm
Speaker 3: speaking like you, that I was doing the same intonations
Speaker 3: and kind of pauses, lilt.
Speaker 2: Anyway, put this in if you will.
Speaker 1: But I thought of.
Speaker 3: Two more movies that are extraordinary, and forgot to mention
Speaker 3: when we were talking doctor Strange Love, Doctor Strange Love,
Speaker 3: Peter Seller's Beautiful movie cinema, classic, hilarious, also deep and meaningful,
Speaker 3: whatever category you want to put that in. And then
Speaker 3: also El Norte was a movie that I watched many
Speaker 3: many years ago, I think in high school, and it
Speaker 3: really opened my mind to the story that the family
Speaker 3: is struggling with in that film. Postcards from the Edge,
Speaker 3: very funny. Okay, thank you. It was really nice to
Speaker 3: talk to you. Oh my god, now I'm just being annoying.
Speaker 3: I'm annoyed with myself, but I can't help it. The
Speaker 3: best ending to a movie, of course, is Thelma and Louise.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, please put this in. I know I
Speaker 3: sound like a crazy person, but oh well. Oh and
Speaker 3: Splendor in the Grass Warren Beatty and Natalie Wood. That
Speaker 3: is when she's in the bathtub and she's screaming, I'm
Speaker 3: not spoiled, mom, I'm not spoiled.
Speaker 2: That was an awesome movie. Okay, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'm done. So that was episode three hundred and forty two.
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