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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm Buds Night and I'm the host of the

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Speaker 2: Taking a Walk Podcast, and I'm so excited to be

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Speaker 2: live in front of an audience for the first time

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Speaker 2: recording the Taking a Walk Podcast. We are at the

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Speaker 2: wonderful Emmanuel College and fantastic Boston, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't be any happier. And I'm even happier that

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Speaker 3: the person I'm going to be interviewing on this.

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Speaker 2: Taking a Walk episode is a legendary disc jockey in Boston, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: I dare say call him iconic. He has been on

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Speaker 2: WZLX one hundred point seven, Boston's classic rock station for decades,

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Speaker 2: and recently he has moved into Morning Drive, the big

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Speaker 3: Next, we're going to speak to Chuck Nolan on Taking

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Speaker 3: a Walk.

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Speaker 2: Taking a Walk, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Chuck Nolan to

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Speaker 2: the Taking.

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Speaker 1: A Lot Podcast. Wow, thank you.

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Speaker 3: That was fantastic, thunderous applause.

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Speaker 1: First of all, what did you think? It was a

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Speaker 1: lot more thunderous than I thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was fantastic. It's so great to

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Speaker 3: be with you, Chuck.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of stories to tell I'm so

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Speaker 2: happy that I was able to mildly convince you to

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Speaker 2: come over here and do this episode.

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Speaker 3: It didn't take much cajoling, by the way, No.

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Speaker 1: No, I thought it was a bit much.

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Speaker 3: That you had asked for the limousine service.

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Speaker 1: And have the rider making sure I have my special

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Speaker 1: beverages and everything ready.

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Speaker 3: Did you get everything that you needed?

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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 2: Thank you everything to your satisfaction, mister Nolan, I'm ready

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Speaker 2: to go. Yes, I have to say, Chuck looks identical

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Speaker 2: to the moment that I first met him. He looks

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Speaker 2: that was a long time ago. You look absolutely the same.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I do too.

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Speaker 1: Right, Buzz was this kind during contract negotiations too, He

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Speaker 3: Like this my favorite time of the year and year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Yeah, Well, we have a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you now moving into morning Drive

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Speaker 2: on WZLX, so we're going to talk about that. We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about your career, your storied career, which

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Speaker 2: has taken on a new chapter, which I think is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Coming out of the radio business.

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Speaker 2: I love being able to certainly talk to my dear

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Speaker 2: but the radio stories are always near and dear to

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Speaker 2: my heart. So, Chuck, before we get into the festivities proceedings,

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Speaker 2: let me ask you the opening question. So, if you

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Speaker 2: could take a walk with someone living or dead, who

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Speaker 2: would you take a walk with?

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Speaker 3: Then where would you take that walk?

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Speaker 1: Oh? So this is the part where I should say,

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Speaker 1: like John Lennon, right, no, say would you walk down

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Speaker 1: Penny Lane? And I'd ask him when you wrote yellow

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Speaker 1: that mean? Exactly? Yeah, But instead I'm going to say

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Speaker 3: Okay, Amen, Amen to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for sharing.

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Speaker 3: Is it fair to say, though, that asking that.

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Speaker 2: Question at different times could be producing different answers or

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Speaker 2: Today I would say it's my father. Maybe certain points

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I think you're right, and as you get a

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Speaker 2: And I think he would be looking at this in

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Speaker 1: Chuck Nolan, that's your son. From that moment, I was

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Speaker 1: That's great, Josephine, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So WAAF the first big break in your career?

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Speaker 3: And what time of day.

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Speaker 2: And what was the lineup on AAF in those days?

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Speaker 1: Bob and Zip in the morning, Bob Rivers, Bob Rivers.

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Speaker 2: Who passed away in the last three year, legendary disc jockey,

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Speaker 2: and it was Anna Lisa, she was great, she's in

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So at AAF How long were you there?

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Speaker 1: I was there probably eight years.

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Speaker 3: And then we went to Florida.

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Speaker 1: They offered me the job to work at ninety seven GTR,

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Speaker 1: I thought, no, I became Chuck Michaels. It's so awful.

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Speaker 4: Chuck Michaels, Now, how did you sound smoother?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 3: With the velvet voice. Then what was the deal?

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Speaker 3: Now what was worse? Doing that? Or getting your teeth extracted?

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Speaker 1: That was painful. Although I made a friend of mine

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Speaker 1: which was just all bars and clubs, and we would

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Speaker 3: Was that Paul Kastronova?

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Speaker 1: Paul castron that's correct, Yes, yep. So we're still in

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Speaker 1: the business, and he's still there on the area.

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Speaker 3: And he's an iHeart brethren, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's working a big in Miami, so a

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Speaker 3: Right? We know everybody knows someone who knows someone, right, So.

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Speaker 1: I did that for a while, and then I realized,

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Speaker 1: So I thought, I have to get back to civilization.

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Speaker 1: I came back.

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Speaker 3: Now I cannot take the credit for hiring him. On

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Speaker 3: Call this the fast five. Ready, all right, okay.

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Speaker 2: Number one favorite desert island disc the one album that

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Speaker 2: Number two. Most underrated classic rock band Black Crows. Christopher Robinson.

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Speaker 2: So you've made a tremendous career move.

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Speaker 3: He rebuffed me. I did quickly too. Wasn't even a conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 1: from the North Shore. She grew up under the flight

441
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: path of Logan Airport. She has a strange obsession with

442
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: planes and we just hit it off right away. What

443
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: I liked about it was she insulted me on the

444
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: air immediately, and I thought that was great. And she's

445
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: super intelligent and funny and quick, and it just worked.

446
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: It's a chemistry thing. When you wanted me to do

447
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: the morning show with this other person, there was no

448
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: chemistry there. It just didn't feel right. This just felt right.

449
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: And we had to add a third person to this.

450
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: And he's actually my boss, Tyler, but he's from Rhode Island,

451
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: grew up in the shadow of some of the finest

452
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: three deckers in Rhode Island, and he sounds like it too.

453
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: He's funny, but he's a little on the more brusque side,

454
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: so it's a nice compliment to the three of us.

455
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: So we started talking about doing it, and then it

456
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: started to happen, and the first show we did together,

457
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: it just felt right. It's just this dance that you

458
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: do with three people talking on the radio, try not

459
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: to step on each other. How long should we go?

460
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Get out of it? And it works. It's a lot

461
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: of fun. I'm having fun.

462
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like you're having fun.

463
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: It's seven months so far, seven months, right, which I'm

464
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: sure has flown by.

465
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: It has, except for the getting up at three point

466
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning part.

467
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: But it's fun engaging with an audience, you know, especially

468
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: early kind of thinking about the way people are commuting,

469
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: leading their lives and how you're carrying them through that

470
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: and giving them something to look forward to put a

471
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: smile on their face. It sounds fantastic. It sounds naturally

472
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: funny and engaging. It's not forced. My ears are sometimes critical,

473
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: as you know, and because that's what I had to do,

474
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: that's my job to do that for radio stations. I've

475
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: never heard it sound forced. It has a great flow

476
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: to it, a great energy. I look forward to listening

477
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: to it. So hats off to you and the whole

478
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: crew there.

479
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for what's going on.

480
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: It's fair to say when you program a radio station

481
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: for ten years and then you ultimately cross town and

482
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: compete against that radio station, you're kind of competing sort

483
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: of against yourself a little bit because.

484
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: You built it's like child behind.

485
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so did I in my time competition want to

486
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: you know, beat the station's pants off, of course, But

487
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: did I always root for the Zlex crew and Chuck

488
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: and the.

489
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: Team, absolutely, you know.

490
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: That's that's that's the odd part about when you turn

491
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: around and do the role that I had. But ZLX

492
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: is a I say, in America, one of the top

493
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: classic rock stations without questions. So you're talking to the

494
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: man leading the charge there in the morning show on

495
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: one of America's best, and he's one of the best

496
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: in town.

497
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: You've been in this town for twenty plus years, thirty plus,

498
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: thirty plus years.

499
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy for such It really is an insecure business.

500
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: People move around all the time. I've been in the

501
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: same place for three decades. That's crazy.

502
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: What's changed about Boston?

503
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: Hmm, Well, let's see, aside from the way things look,

504
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: the gardens changed names several times. I don't know it's changed,

505
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: but it hasn't. It's still such a big music city.

506
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a college town. You got people

507
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: want to see live music all the time. There's not

508
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: as many rock clubs as there used to be, but

509
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: music is still a driving force in this town.

510
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: It's fair to say traffic was bad then and it

511
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: is still bad now, except now it's.

512
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Bad all the time. You used to be just during

513
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: drive time, but now it's bad all the time. Everybody

514
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: has different schedules.

515
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've had the opportunity in your career to

516
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: interview some pretty interesting folks. There's a couple I'm going

517
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: to mention, but I want you to highlight some of

518
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: your favorites as well.

519
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: First of all, I.

520
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: Can't help but think of the fact Chuck and I

521
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: were out he was covering the Grammys quite a few

522
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: years ago. We took a road trip to LA to

523
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: cover the Grammys. Had a spectacular time, had too much fun. Yes, actually,

524
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: and lo and behold, as he was doing his show,

525
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: suddenly John Stewart.

526
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: Becomes available to talk to.

527
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: Now, this is very early on in John Stewart's career.

528
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: What do you recall about that experience interviewing him? It

529
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: was pretty quick, right, It was sort of a breeze

530
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: through one of they they call it like radio row

531
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: when multiple people come through.

532
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they put these things together, they have radios

533
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: from all over the country all lined up. I think

534
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: we're in the forum, yes that time. So they bring

535
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: in guests and they go from one radio station to another.

536
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: And John Stewart was hosting the Grammys, wasn't he? Or

537
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: he was a hosting. Wasn't think he was hosting?

538
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: So he was.

539
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: There for rehearsals, so he walked in and there was

540
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: this big you know, Oh it's John Stewart's John Stewart

541
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: and he's saying hi to everybody, and I remember, was

542
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: it you or me? We went over and approached him like, hey,

543
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: you know from Boston, want to go on the radio? Oh?

544
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: The radio? And he sat down and he was just

545
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: so spontaneous and really funny, just off the cuff. You

546
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: could see why he was so successful at what he does. Yeah,

547
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: but I thought he was great me too. I still

548
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: think he's great.

549
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Actually that at that event, actually at the Grammys, that

550
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: was my first and only opportunity to see Madonna performed.

551
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: Do you recall Madonna being out there on stage two?

552
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: I think she did the opening, the opening act.

553
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that's right.

554
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: Of course. We were up in the nosebleeds for sure. Yeah. No,

555
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: that was great.

556
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: I've done that. I broadcast live from the Rock and

557
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremonies when they had him

558
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: at the Waldorf Historia. I've had a chance to do

559
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: my show in so many cool places.

560
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: Who did you have at the Hall of Fame ceremony?

561
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: It was the year Paul McCartney went in and Peter Wolfe,

562
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the lead singer of the Jay Giles Band, came to

563
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: New York with me and he was my broadcast partner.

564
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: So we were set up in the hallway.

565
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 6: He knows everybody, so as we're sitting there and artists

566
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 6: are passing by on their way in, every single person

567
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 6: he just had to say hi, and they came over

568
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 6: and we talked to us.

569
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: And I was sitting there in awe of Peter wolf like,

570
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, nobody has said no to you. It's like, yeah,

571
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people. I thought that was

572
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: the coolest thing. Yeah. Yeah.

573
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: He has a great biography book out. It's great Stories,

574
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: by the way, the Peter wolf biography.

575
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, back to the.

576
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: LA experience, what do you recall about our encounter with

577
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: this gentleman by the name of Ed McMahon. Now, just

578
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: for the audience, I don't know if you know who

579
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Ed McMahon was, but there was this show called Johnny

580
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: Carson that used to be on and Ed McMahon was

581
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson's sidekick.

582
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: Johnny Carson was the Jimmy Fallon show several hosts earlier.

583
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's funny how it works. But so did

584
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: Ed McMahon come on as part of the radio row

585
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: or did we just see him? We saw him.

586
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: We did, like I remember vividly tell the story. We

587
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: had our rental car, we're totally lost driving around Hollywood

588
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: and we're coming around a corner and he's standing by

589
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: the stoplight and Ed McMahon had us saying that he

590
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: used to say, and we set it to hey O,

591
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: and he sent it back.

592
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: He set it back, but he set it back in

593
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: as dispirited away as possible. It was actually kind of sad.

594
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: He went, hey yeah, but he said it back. You

595
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: could tell he had heard that line before his whole life, right,

596
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: his whole life.

597
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. What a nice man, very nice man.

598
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. But other than his laugh, I'm not sure what.

599
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: He had a great laugh, but other than that, I'm

600
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: not sure what he did.

601
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: He was just there to laugh at Johnny Carson's joke. Yeah,

602
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: and the rest was history. Frans.

603
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there anybody you haven't interviewed that you wish

604
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: you could?

605
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: You can spend time in interview, you know.

606
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: For our big bands like we play led Zeppelin. I've

607
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: interviewed Robert Plant and Jimmy Page for the Rolling Stones.

608
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: So you just flashed on something.

609
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: Chuck used to do a very funny imitation I remember

610
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: of Jimmy Page.

611
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: Do you mind hitting this with that? With that British accent.

612
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Page was completely different from Robert Plant. Robert Plant

613
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: was the nicest guy. He's the lead singer. I mean

614
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: Robert Plant when he was nineteen years old leading led Zeppelin.

615
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he peel the pain off the wall

616
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: with his voice. But he was so humble and nice,

617
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: and I expected the same from Jimmy Page. He was

618
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: not nice at all. It's a very tough interview. He

619
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: seemed insulted everything that I asked him, and I just

620
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: made some goofy question up about hey, if you could

621
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: zip down again an ey big muffin at McDonald's with somebody,

622
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: who would you do? And he just came back with.

623
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 6: The hell are we doing here?

624
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: And that was the end of that. So embarrassed. All right,

625
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: come back, Jimmy. The interview is I flashed on that.

626
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: When I remember your imitation, I'm sorry to.

627
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Put you out the spot. That's all right. For the Stones,

628
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: I've interviewed Keith Richards, who was again really nice, very

629
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: humble Guy's a legend. It's amazing that he's still alive.

630
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: He has no business being alive with the lifestyle that

631
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: he's late. I would want to interview Mick Jagger, but

632
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: I haven't, but I hear he's a very tough interview

633
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: because Mick Jagger is one of those guys that has

634
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: been knighted. He's Sir Mick, and everyone asked Keith Richards,

635
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: why haven't you been night He's like, I don't want that,

636
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: that's garbage. But Mick Jagger takes it very seriously, and

637
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: I hear he is rather aristocratic. But I'd like to

638
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: talk to him.

639
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 3: That would be good.

640
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

641
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: What about comedians?

642
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: Since it's Boston is such a great comedy town, have

643
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: you had many comedians come through that you've you've spoken to?

644
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: Uh? I used to, not as many anymore.

645
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: They don't.

646
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: They notoriously don't like coming on the air and giving

647
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: their material away.

648
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: And that's what makes it a tough interview, right because

649
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: you're feeding them their lines thinking they're going to say it,

650
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: but they're saving it for the stage. But Bill Burr

651
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: is really good. I've interviewed him. He's very funny, very quick.

652
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Dennis Leary, same thing. These guys are so professional they

653
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: just go with it. Some of the smaller comics seem

654
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: to struggle a little bit on the air because they

655
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: need an audience. Right, they missed the laugh. If they

656
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: deliver the line, they don't get a reaction. It's hard

657
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: and they don't know how to handle that. So comics

658
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: can be a tough interview. Yeah, they clam up, They

659
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: clam up.

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00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

661
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're going to take some questions.

662
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: But before we take some questions, I want to ask

663
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: you a final question. If you could give this.

664
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Group here at Emmanuel College and then those in the

665
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 2: audience who maybe they're not necessarily radio majors, but maybe

666
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: they're interested in media somehow, and as they're carving their careers,

667
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: what piece of advice would you give to them as

668
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: they're pondering the world and soon to be twenty twenty six, if.

669
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: You really have a passion for something, just go for it.

670
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Give it a shot, because if you don't, you might

671
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: look back and regret the fact that you never tried.

672
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: And I really think you have to exercise the creative

673
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: part of you. And if that's through social media or

674
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: I hear there's radio equipment here that's not being used

675
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: at this school. You know, you could start a podcast

676
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: or you know, do your own radio show that you stream,

677
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: But get in there and give it a try, because

678
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: it actually has a lot of fun. I can't believe

679
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: I've done what I'm doing for so long. There's no

680
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: reason I should be doing this. It's just crazy because

681
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: I actually get a chance to make a living doing

682
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: something that was fun, which is so rare. And if

683
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: you can find that, you're good, ladies and gentlemen.

684
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: Chuck, Noah, thank you. So this is the question time.

685
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: Who's got a question?

686
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: So Brett Show, do you.

687
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 7: Ever answer the phone?

688
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Like have people call in?

689
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 7: All right? What was it the wildest?

690
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: Like you get some people who call in really hammered,

691
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: really hammered, and they've been out all night. Now that

692
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing the morning show, they're still out and they've

693
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: been out all night and they want to talk to you,

694
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: and they want to talk to you a lot. We

695
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: put a lot of people on the air live because

696
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: I really think that's important is to make the audience

697
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: a part of the show. So we're constantly putting the

698
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: number out there. You can go on the the app

699
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: and you can leave messages. With these thirty second messages,

700
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: we call them talkbacks, and we get a lot of

701
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: Some people are totally unprepared when we put them on

702
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: the air. Some people use very colorful language. There are

703
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: certain words you cannot say on the air, so we

704
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: have this. It's called the dump button. It's this big

705
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: red button. If you say something some people can relate

706
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: to this, you got to hit that button and it

707
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: gets rid of the last eight seconds whatever you said.

708
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: I find I used that a lot. I'm really surprised

709
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: how much I didn't in the afternoon. I would put

710
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: people on live in the afternoon, but I never had

711
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: to use that, except if I was out in a

712
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: bar or something. But I'm shocked in the morning how

713
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: often I have to use that. Maybe it's because people

714
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: are pissed off driving into work. I don't know.

715
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: I think that's it. Yes, big mistakes are embarrassing moments.

716
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: That, oh god, so many. It's early in my career.

717
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm there right now. I can picture it. I was

718
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: on the air. You have to make sure you turn

719
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: the microphone off when you're done, and I was doing

720
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: a show. It was a Saturday night show and I

721
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: just finished doing break I took a phone call and

722
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: it was a young lady. It was very friendly and

723
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: she wanted to talk to me for a long time.

724
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot going on, so I was talking

725
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: with her. Hold on a second, I gotta do another break.

726
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: And I do a break, get back to her, talk

727
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: to her. This happened like three or four times. The

728
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: last time I did not turn off the microphone. So

729
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: I go back to talking to her and it's all

730
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: going out over the air. And it was a small

731
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: station phone didn't ring a lot, but all of a sudden,

732
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: they're all ringing, like, Wow, this is great. I'm doing

733
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: really well. Hold on a second, I got to take

734
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: a call first. One. You know, we can hear everything

735
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: you say. And I looked down and I saw the

736
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: green light. Just, oh my god, the shot of adrenaline

737
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: that went through. I was trying to review everything that

738
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: I had said. I just turned the micro off and

739
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything the rest of the night. I

740
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: just played music. It was so horrifying.

741
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: I love it.

742
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: What a great story.

743
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: Oh terrible?

744
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: Yes, what would you say?

745
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 8: Has like change in music industry since you guys have

746
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 8: like started.

747
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: I feel like the.

748
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 7: Culture around musicians and bands like isn't the same as

749
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: like born at least it looks like it used to be,

750
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 7: so like, how has it changed and how has that

751
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 7: affected the radio?

752
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe you can help me with this too.

753
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: But back then you had a lot of help from

754
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: the record companies. They would promote you, they would take

755
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: you out on tour, they would set up your dates,

756
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: they took care of everything. We had all these record

757
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: reps that would regularly come by pushing, hey, you're gonna

758
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: play this, this is a new one from whatever band

759
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: or artist. I think now artists are mainly on their own.

760
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: They're self promoting, which has to be so tough. And

761
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: you don't make the money from record sales like you

762
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: used to back in the day. Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Eagles,

763
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: they made millions selling albums and CDs and stuff. And

764
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: now you're on Spotify and you get fractions of pennies

765
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: for a play. You can't make any money at that.

766
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: You really have to make your money from touring, and

767
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I think somebody like Taylor Swift is a genius at that.

768
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, she could go out all year if she

769
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: wanted to and sell out every place she goes. But

770
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: that's really where she's going to make her money is

771
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: from performing, because it's just not there anymore in sales.

772
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: I think the rise of DIY independent artists who do

773
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: everything themselves to build their audience basically, and that includes

774
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: their social media and their merchandise, and you know, they

775
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: don't have big management and big publicists. There's so many

776
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: independent artists that are so proud with big audiences. I

777
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: was just talking to you guys earlier about the band

778
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: a Jar, who is a band that would you know,

779
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: many people certainly would go I've not heard of them

780
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: on the radio. Well, you're not going to hear them

781
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: on the radio. You're going to find them in different places.

782
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: And that's how they created their audience.

783
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: So I think it's the.

784
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: Rise of independence is what we've certainly seen, which I

785
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: think is a good thing. We know somebody, our friend

786
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: Chris Paquin's son Will Pequin, has become an independent.

787
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: Artist on his own, who is touring Europe right now.

788
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: Oh wow, who has found his audience, who has his

789
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: strong social following And to your point on Spotify, yeah,

790
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: the figures. I think I heard the Foo Fighters for

791
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: a year of their Spotify royalties. I think it's it's

792
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: seven hundred thousand dollars or something like that, which for

793
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: a band like that that sells.

794
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: Out millions of plays.

795
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that tells you a lot when there's a disparity.

796
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: But also now artists can make music at home. You

797
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: get pro tools, and you get a decent you know,

798
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: a basement or something, you put eggshells all around it

799
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: and get the sound just right. You can make an

800
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: album at home, and so many artists like Noah Khan

801
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: out of Vermont, you know, making music at home and

802
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: then if it's really good, maybe a record company will

803
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: pay for the studio time. But back in the day

804
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: bands used to disappear into a studio for a year

805
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: to make an album. You can do that in a week.

806
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they spent the record company's money. Yeah, foolishly, Yeah

807
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: on the wrong things. Yeah yeah sure, yes.

808
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 8: Who talks about it a little bit in costs, But

809
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 8: how I think a lot of those can relate that.

810
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 7: Making the radio, it's like a nostalgic thing of something

811
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 7: from you knowing your kids and having our parents play

812
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 7: it in the mornings and things like that. That's something

813
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 7: that really me don't think to play listen to on

814
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 7: our own time. Do you guys think about that when

815
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 7: you're reporting, like who you're targeting and what your audience

816
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 7: may be.

817
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Yep, radio stations have their target demographic that they go for.

818
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: We are mail a male rock station. Our main target

819
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: for advertising is twenty five to fifty four. Now, we'll

820
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: get younger listeners, will get older listeners, but that's the

821
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: pocket that you want. Where a stationlike Kiss is targeting

822
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: females younger eighteen to thirty four, although they do really

823
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: well twenty five to fifty four, so I guess that's

824
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: a target for them too. But yeah, they do so

825
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: much research about who's listening. We get ratings now every

826
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: week to find out how we're doing and how many

827
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: people are out there. They have these meters that they

828
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: will give you, these portable people meters that picks up

829
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: a tone that's sent through the radio that you can't

830
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: hear and register what station you're listening to and for

831
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: how long. And that's what our ratings are based on.

832
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: And it's a crazy system because there's.

833
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: Not enough of them out there, and there actually are.

834
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 3: They're actually daily ratings that you could look at as well.

835
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: So it's so micro focused that you could actually even

836
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: go down to the day I will tell.

837
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: You based on your question too. And I think it's

838
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: been a key to Zlex's success over.

839
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: Time, and I certainly think about it with my podcast

840
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: as well, that even though you know there's a certain

841
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: target audience, always go deliberately younger than your target because

842
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: a certain segment is going to get older and fall

843
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: off of what I call the demographic cliff. So you

844
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: need an influx always of newer listeners, newer audiences at

845
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: all times discovering you.

846
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: I think classic rock benefits in a.

847
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: Big way because so much of the music from these

848
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: generations shows up in a TV show, shows up in

849
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: a movie, so suddenly a song becomes popular that was,

850
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a library track on a radio station.

851
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think creators certainly think about this a lot.

852
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: And Chuck would be thrilled if all of you would

853
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: try his morning show out.

854
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: It would be beyond thrilled six Am six.

855
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: Because it is important not only to be in touch

856
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: with your generation, but also for them to kind of,

857
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: you know, sample and be part of what we have

858
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: going on.

859
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: And radio sees the writing on the wall that you know,

860
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: the younger audience is shrinking, so we really push our

861
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: free iHeartRadio app. You can stream every radio station in

862
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: the company and other companies as well. I think jumped

863
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: on it too, because I think eventually terrestrial radio will

864
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: go away. It's so expensive to have towers everywhere that

865
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: it will just become a streaming thing. As a matter

866
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: of fact, I think Tesla is dropping FM radio for

867
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: their twenty twenty six models because they want to encourage streaming.

868
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: You'll be able to use apps and get them in

869
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: your car, so we push that all the time. You know,

870
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: you can stream us on the free right iHeartRadio app.

871
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: It's going to take a long time before terrestrial radio

872
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: goes away, but it is going that way.

873
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: But that's a really good question. Okay, sure, I'm just curious.

874
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 7: The benefits of working in commercial radio versus public radio.

875
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Financially, it pays better. Although WGBH has a great setup.

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Speaker 1: I love that sign and you're coming down the pike too,

877
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Speaker 1: But they just went through all these financial cuts federally

878
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: and they laid off a lot of people, so you

879
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: notice they're doing a lot more fundraising as well. Public

880
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: radio is great. I got them is my preset in

881
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: my car. But it's a struggle now more than ever

882
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: to really depend on people donating to keep it going.

883
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Speaker 2: And I think to add on to that, you're fortunate

884
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: here to have a strong public radio community that, even

885
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: through the challenges that they're going through, is going to

886
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 2: survive it. It will be hurt somehow by the cuts,

887
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: but it will survive it because you know, when you

888
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: think of these stations that are in this community, they're

889
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: really embedded in the in the community.

890
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Speaker 3: Yep.

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00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 8: I have a question on behalf of my son. He's

893
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 8: at school and could make it today, but when he

894
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 8: heard I was going to see a podcaster today, he

895
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 8: wants a podcast for Christmas. And I'm just curious, what

896
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 8: would you recommend to somebody who is thinking of starting

897
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 8: a podcast. Is there some sort of secret sauce outicle

898
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 8: about it to make it work?

899
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Speaker 2: Yes, Resilience, passion, consistency, because when I say that, those,

900
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: particularly the consistency.

901
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 3: Part, they have something they call pod fade.

902
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: This is the people who who do ten podcasts and

903
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: then decide I can't do anymore, I can't keep up

904
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: with it, I don't have any audience. They get frustrated

905
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: and they give it up and a large percentage have

906
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: pod fades.

907
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Speaker 3: So I would say.

908
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Speaker 2: Those three things would be the priorities. And of course

909
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: find a niche as well. You can't necessarily be brought

910
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: into the market. You need a particular.

911
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 3: Niche and have fun with it. Feel free, have freedom.

912
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Speaker 2: That's something when we started in radio, Chuck and I,

913
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: there was more freedom that the individuals were allowed. Then

914
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: his companies got tighter and more researched, and there was

915
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: more at stake. Unfortunately, they took those freedoms away and

916
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: probably took it away too far.

917
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Speaker 3: So he should enjoy the freedom as well.

918
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, you have.

919
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: One more yep.

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Speaker 7: I hope that you guys are still listening to the

921
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 7: radio for yourself or if you have more transition than too,

922
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Speaker 7: like streaming.

923
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Speaker 1: And if you are still listening.

924
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Speaker 7: To the radio, what are your like go.

925
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 8: To radio stations that you guys?

926
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: Good question. All right, let's see on my radio I have.

927
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Speaker 1: I really like w ERS the Emerson station, Ken West.

928
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: Every buddy ken West is programmed dark. He does a

929
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: great job with that, and I always like listening to

930
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: the college announcers. I'm kind of judging how they're doing.

931
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to screw up and all. But

932
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: I like to hear the passion in it, like you

933
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: really are performing and you got to put something into it.

934
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: I really like how they do that. So I have

935
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: E R S, I have Kiss one Away, WBZ ten

936
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: thirty for news. What's the one out of avioral the river?

937
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: I have that one. I have the sports Hub, I

938
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: have VII the sports stuff. Those are the big ones

939
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: I have. What about you?

940
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't drive as much.

941
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: Uh, sports hub BZ AM ZLX probably.

942
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: Would be mine.

943
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: I have EI EI too, but.

944
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Speaker 3: But you know, less commuting. Do it one more quick one?

945
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I if I remember correctly, you were saying

946
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 7: that you were pretty introverted, and like, I feel like

947
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 7: your job now is like worst nightmare for an introvert.

948
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 8: So how did you know about making that chong?

949
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: It's a great question. It's it's so weird. When I'm

950
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: on the radio, I'm a different person. I remember one

951
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: of the interviews I did with Ozzy Osbourne when I

952
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: could understand what he was saying because he was he

953
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: had such a thick accent and mumbly.

954
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: And all that.

955
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: But I was asking about what it's like to go

956
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: out on stage still to this day, selling out concerts

957
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: and all that, and he said, without all the swears

958
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: that I had to keep hitting the button on it.

959
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: He says, I'm absolutely terrified, and that surprised me. So

960
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: why are you terrified, he says, because I want to

961
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: do a good job, and that just showed me that

962
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: he cares. I think when I'm in the studio it's

963
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: a different feeling. It's like you're kind of in control.

964
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: It's a comfortable place, but you really want to do

965
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: a good job. So there is a terrifying aspect to that,

966
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: Like me coming out here in my personal life and

967
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: doing this is absolutely terrifying. But I said, yes, he's

968
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: never going to speak to me again and never gonna

969
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: speak to him again. But I can get up at

970
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: the garden in front of sixteen thousand people and introduce

971
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: a band, and it's great. I can do that, But

972
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: it's a different feeling. I don't know, it's kind of

973
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: a switch that you do. I remember one time I

974
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: met Howard Stern. I thought he was just going to

975
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: be this bombastic a hole. He didn't make eye contact.

976
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: He was so shy it completely blew me away. He

977
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: was such an introvert and I've heard him say he

978
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: is He's a different personality in real life than he

979
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: is on the radio. Thank you so much, everybody, Thank

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00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: you Chucking us very much.

981
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Speaker 2: We have a party gift for you on the way out,

982
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Speaker 2: courtesy of the Taking a Walk Podcast. Obviously, feel free

983
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Speaker 2: to check that out anytime as well.

984
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Speaker 3: Self promotion well.

985
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Speaker 1: Thank you to all of you.

986
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Speaker 2: Thank you to Professor Flynn, to Emmanuel College, and to

987
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Speaker 2: Chuck Nolan.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thank you.

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990
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991
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