1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interacted Brooker's Studiosis is Bloomberg Daybreak 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: for Wednesday, March First Coming up today, China's economy rebounds 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: as the COVID zero era ends. The FBI director is 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: the latest to say COVID who likely came from a 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Chinese lab. Stocks began a new trading month after suffering 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: big losses in February, and Tesla holds its Investor Day. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: The passenger train crash in Greece has left dozens dead 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: plus Embattled Congressman George Santos proposes a popular tax break 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: on Long Island. I'm Michael Barr. More ahead, I'm John Stash, 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Sports than Net's lost the Red Hot in Milwaukee, 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: The Islanders lost in a shootout. The Rangers of acquired 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Kane from Chicago. That's all straight Ahead on Bloomberg 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: day Break, The Business News you need disturn your day, 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: and just one fifteen minute podcast each pointing on Apple's Spotify. 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: The Bloomberg Business Appen everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Cameron Moscow. Here are the 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: stories we're following today. Stocks are getting a lift this morning. Thanks, 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: to data out of Asia, China's economy is showing signs 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 1: of a stronger recovery than anticipated. Manufacturing in February posted 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: its biggest improvements in more than a decade. Bloomberg Daybreak 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: Asia anchor Brian Curtis has more from Hong Kong. The 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: official PMI rose to fifty two point six from fifty 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: point one in January. The non manufacturing gage jumped to 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: fifty six point three. Both beat estimates by a mile. 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: The data offer the most complete picture yet for how 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: the recovery is moving. Anecdotal evidence had already told part 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: of this story. Road congestion increased, a subway ridership return 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: to pre pandemic levels, and restaurants spending rows. But this 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: is more comprehensive data, and it adds to other signs 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: of recovery, like housing in Hong Kong. Brian Curtis Bloomberg 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Daybreak Right, Brian thanks. While staying in China, President Hijin 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Ping is moving to consolidate the communist already's hold over 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: the country. In a speech ahead of the National People's Congress, 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: she touted plans for sweeping changes to China's bureaucracy begin 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: more from Bloomberg's jail and DSIs in Hong Kong. A 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: lot of what we've been hearing about what she may 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: be preparing for going into the NPC is really not 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: all that different from the strategy has been building and 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: consolidating for months of night years now right. I mean, 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: we saw a preview of this last year in October 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: at the Communist Party Congress. He installed a lot of 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: his loyalists, people that have been really really close him 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: over the years, and really top level positions within the 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Communist Party. You're probably just going to see a repeat 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: of a lot of that. And Bloomberg News editor jeraldesis 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: as China's reforms will formally be announced on Sunday. Questions 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: about the origins of COVID nineteen are adding to tensions 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: with the US Karen Now. FBI Director Christopher Ray says 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: the virus most likely came from a lab incident in Wuhan. 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: He made that assessment in an interview with Fox News. 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: The FBI has folks, agents, professionals, analysts, virologists, microbiologists, etc. 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Who focus specifically on the dangers of biological threads, which 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: include things like novel viruses like COVID. FBI Director Chris 54 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Rays comments come after the Energy Department determined to lab 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: leak was also the most likely source of COVID. Well 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: turning to the markets now, Nathan, is a new month 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: that investors are looking to turn the page on a 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: dismal February for stocks, and we get the details live 59 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg Steve Rappaport, Steve, good Morning, Good morning, Karen, 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: and Nathan. Spring can't come soon enough for investors. Following 61 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: a rough month. The S and P five hundred fell 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: two point six percent in February. The NASTAC also took 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: a hit, dropping one point one percent. Investors face to 64 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: chilling realization that inflation isn't cooling to the level of 65 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve wants to see. The Central Bank last 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: month raised its benchmark interest rate by a quarter point, 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the eighth consecutive increase, in an effort to combat stubbornly 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: high inflation. Live in New York, I'm Steve Rappaport, Bloomberg Daybreak, Steve, 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Thanks a couple. Stocks are off to a rough March already, 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: shares of Novovacs are down twenty four percent. The drug 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: maker says there is substantial doubt about its ability to 72 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: stay in business through next year, and shares of rivian 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Or down seven and a half percent. The electric vehicle 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: maker reported revenue and projections that missed estimates. Well. Nathan, 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: another big EV maker, is also in the spalllight this morning. 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Tesla hosts its annual Investor's Day event today, and Bloomberg's 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: Tom Busby has a preview. Musca is promising quote a 78 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: message of good, hope and positivity for the future at 79 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: today's event, which he calls his master Plan three for 80 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: a fully sustainable energy future for the planet Now. Among 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: the items expected to be announced Tesla's plans to build 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: an auto assembly plant in Monterey, Mexico, its first facility 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: south of the US border, part of a plan to 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: grow to an extreme size. There are whispers about Tesla's 85 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: lowest price EV ever being announced, a twenty five thousand 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: dollar Model two. Also, look for an update on the 87 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: long delayed cybertruck, which is forecast to hit showrooms later 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: this year. Tom Busby Bloomberg Day. Okay, Tom, thank you, 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: And as we await word from Tesla, Goldman Sachs Investor 90 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Days in the books and it decidedly failed to impress 91 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Goldman's stock fell almost four percent at the event. 92 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: CEO David Solomon got visibly flustered as analysts pressed him 93 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: on the future of Goldman's consumer banking division. I appreciate 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: that everyone wants more answers on the consumer platforms and 95 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: their trajectory going forward. We are focused on executing on 96 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: what's in front of us, and we're looking at strategic 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: all strategic options available to us. And I know that 98 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: you want more clarity, but I would I would ask 99 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: you to appreciate that I'm just not in a position 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: to say anything more than what we said. No. After 101 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: CEO David Solomon addressed investors, Bloomberg Schinelli Vassik sat down 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: with Goldman's Chief operating Officer John Waldron. I would say 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: it was an extremely productive and valuable meeting where people 104 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: walked Our partners walked out of that meeting very optimistic 105 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: about the future of the firm, very optimistic about the 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: investments we're making in the forward of the opportunity the firm. 107 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: Goldman's John Waldron says the bank's partners are firmly behind 108 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: the strategy. Stay tuned for more of that conversation coming 109 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: up shortly on Bloomberg Daybreak and on Capitol Hill this morning, Nathan. 110 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: The House has passed a measure that would take the 111 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: Labor Department's new ESG Retirement investing rule and main lead 112 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: President Biden to use his first veto the GOP led Congression. 113 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: A review Act would block the Department from enforcing the rule, 114 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: which allows retirement plans to consider environmental, social, and corporate 115 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: government's implications when selecting and monitoring investments. Thirty five degrees 116 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: in New York. Clear skies this morning, chance for a 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 1: late day shower today. Otherwise partly sunny with higher forty 118 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: five degrees. We'll get down to forty this evening, with 119 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: temperature slowly rising through the overnight hours. Time now to 120 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the other stories making 121 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: news in New York and around the world. Good morning, 122 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: Michael Barr, Good morning, Nathan. At least thirty two people 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: were killed in a train crash in northeast Greece and 124 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: eighty five more were injured. The crash took place in 125 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: the Tempee Valley when a passenger train traveling from Athens 126 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: collided with cargo train, igniting a fire. The passenger train 127 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: carrying hundreds of people, including many university students returning home 128 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: from holiday. Chicago voters have denied Mayor Lori Lightfoot a 129 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: second term. Lightfoot told her supporters that they fought the 130 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: good fight nowas we all know in life, in the end, 131 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: you don't always win every battle, but you never regret 132 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: taking on the powerful and bringing in the light. Candidates 133 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: Paul Vallis and Brandon Johnson will meet in an April 134 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: fourth runoff to succeed Lightfoot. Vallas received thirty four percent 135 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: of the vote, while Johnson got twenty percent. Lightfoot got 136 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: seventeen percent. Republican Representative George Santos may not be well 137 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: liked by his colleagues or constituents, but his bill and 138 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Congress deals with something his district on New York's Long Island. 139 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Once raising the cap on the state and local tax deduction, Santos, 140 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: who lied about his resume, introduced legislation that would increase 141 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: the deduction, known as salt, to fifty thousand dollars. The 142 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: salt randoff was capped at ten thousand dollars in President 143 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's twenty seventeen tax overhaul. Representative Nick Loloda another 144 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Long Island Republican says, despite supporting increases to the cap, 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: you will oppose the measure because Santo's proposed it. The 146 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: US says it is watching what it calls Russian sanctions 147 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: evasion in Central Asia, Bloomberg said Baxter as the story. 148 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Anthony blinkoln highlighting microchips taken from devices 149 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: like refrigerators, even breast pumps, and ship to Russia. He 150 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: says it has a global message. Other countries will learn 151 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: the wrong lesson and would be aggressors in every part 152 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: of the world will say, well, if Russia can get 153 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: away with this, then we can too. So a different 154 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: tag US will provide an additional twenty five million dollars 155 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: to help Central Asian states help diversify trade relationships and 156 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: export routes, as well as trying to help businesses get 157 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: out of previous relationships that could violate the sanctions. In 158 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Radio. The ruptured water 159 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: main and Hoboken that knocked out water pressure has been 160 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: fully isolated. The city says all public schools would be 161 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: reopened today after being closed yesterday. Global News twenty four 162 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: hours a Day, powered by more than twenty seven hundred 163 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: journalist and anolists and over one hundred twenty countries. I'm 164 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Michael bar This is Bloomberg, Nathan. Thank you Michael for 165 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sports update. Front you by Trice stayed out here. 166 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, John Senshine. Day morning, Nathan. It was not 167 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: a well kept secret that the Rangers were talking to 168 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: the Chicago Black Ops about a trade to acquire Patrick Kane, 169 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: thirty four year old, nine time All Star, one time MVP. 170 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: You'll be a free agent after the season. The deal 171 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: finally struck ahead of Friday's trade deadline. Rangers dealt a 172 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: couple of draft picks, and Kane might even play tonight 173 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: when the Rangers visit Philadelphia. The Devils just ahead of 174 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: the Rangers and the standings. They just got Timo Meyer 175 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: from San Jose. Devil's play tonight at Colorado. The Islanders 176 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: lost to wanted to shootout at Minnesota. The fading fast 177 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: Nets lost at Barkley's to sizzling hot Milwaukee one eighteen 178 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: one oh four. That's fifteen wins in a row for 179 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: the Bucks, who move ahead of the Celtics the top 180 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: of the NBA. Standings. The Nets play the Knicks tonight 181 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: at the Guard Knicks going for a seventh straight win, 182 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: and also tonight Phoenix at Charlotte, and Kevin Durant, back 183 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: from his knee in Dreams, expected to make his son's debut. 184 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: It's March of college basketball heating up Kansas. The Fenny 185 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Champ could win again. Ranked third, Jayhawks beat Texas Tech, 186 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Duke beat nc Stained. Duke is unranked with new coach 187 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: John Shire, but they just went sixteen and oh at 188 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: home Seaton Hall at home, Wiston Villanova seventy six, seventy 189 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: two at the top of The Giants off season less. 190 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and say Quon Barkley both could potentially leave 191 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: his free agents. Giants general managers Joe Chan they cautiously optimistic. 192 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's again you have to go through, you know, 193 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: hard times before he come out the other end on 194 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: better times than negotiations. So you know, we're trying to 195 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: work through it. You know, obviously we'd like to have 196 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: them both back. They they know how we feel about 197 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: both of them, and you know, again we're still working 198 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: through it. Shane spoke at the scouting Combinement's just starting. 199 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: John Stasha were Bloomberg Sports Live from coast to coast, 200 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: from New York to San Francisco, Boston to Washington, d C. 201 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: Nationwide on Sirius examp of Bloomberg Business app and Bloomberg 202 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hagar. 203 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: Partners are firmly behind the strategy at Goldman Sachs. That's 204 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: the message from Chief Operating Officer John Waldron on the 205 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: heels of Goldman second investor day. He is expressing confidence 206 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: despite big losses in Goldman's consumer business. Waldron discussed Goldman's 207 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: business strategy, the future of the firm, and the macro 208 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: environment with Bloomberg's Shinali Bassek. When you look at the 209 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: strategy set forward by Goldman Sachs, help us understand Goldman 210 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: stack SoC has been lagging on a price to book 211 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: basis from some of its rivals. What are investors not seeing? 212 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: What is the map here on why Goldman may be 213 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: worth more than the style is current showing well. First 214 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: of all, it's great to have you in our building. 215 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the time. Today was an important day 216 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: for us. As you said, it was our second investor 217 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: day in our twenty three or so year history as 218 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: a public company and our hundred and fifty four year 219 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: history as a firm. We've committed to talking to our 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: investors on a more regular basis, and so we did 221 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: our first investor day in January of twenty twenty, right 222 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: before the pandemic, and then we had three years of 223 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: clearly very complicated volable markets, and so we're now updating 224 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: our investors on what we've done over the past three 225 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: years and spending a lot of time talking about our 226 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: strategic realignment, which is an important evolution in our journey 227 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: to further align our businesses to create more durable terms 228 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: and long term value over time. Is there a golden 229 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: two point zero here when you take a look at 230 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: the strategy or is this kind of an incremental path 231 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: to quip to where you want to go? Well, I 232 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: think if there's a two point zero, it's really talking 233 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: about having two market leading businesses, Global Banking and Markets 234 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: and Asset a Wealth Management, which are businesses we've been 235 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: in for a very long period of time now run 236 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: together in an integrated fashion. Global Banking and Markets, a 237 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: thirty plus billion dollar revenue business generated sixteen point four 238 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: percent returns last year definitively outperforming our competition. We've done 239 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: a great job in those businesses. And now when you 240 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: see them together, you see the power of those franchises, 241 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: and you see some of the diversity effects of those 242 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: franchises where in some cases market headwinds for certain of 243 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: the franchises that are tailwinds for others and vice versa, 244 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: and you can see those businesses really performing across cycles 245 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: in a mid teens returns kind of manner. When you 246 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: think about ASCID and Wealth, I'm really curious about how 247 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: much you're willing to invest. Is this something you think 248 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: you'd do a large, transformative deal around in order to 249 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: gain scale. Well, let's just talk about the organic opportunity 250 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: in ASID and wealth management and today again in global 251 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: banking and markets. Dandes walk through the story. It's a 252 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: very very compelling story in ACID and Wealth management, my partner, 253 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: Mark Knachman walk through that story. And to your question 254 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: about a two point zero version, we're now running asset 255 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: and wealth management as an integrated platform where we have 256 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: scale in active asset management, where a top five player 257 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: in active asset management, and we're a top five player 258 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: in global alternatives. I'm not aware of another platform that 259 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: has our kind of scale in both that's pretty unique. 260 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: And then we have a premier wealth management franchise with 261 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: a trillion dollars of assets on that platform. We have 262 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: to also talk about kind of this year's long journey 263 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: and consumer as well. You've said you're considering strategic alternatives. 264 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: How much detail can you give us around what those 265 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: strategic alternatives are? Could it mean the sale of all 266 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: or parts of the business before I address your consumer question, 267 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: and I will address it just in asset A Wealth management. 268 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: This is a very important again back to your two 269 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: point out question, this is a very important growth opportunity 270 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: for the firm. With the scale I talked about, we 271 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: now have significant fundraising objectives in front of us. We 272 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: have a significant management fee target in front of us. 273 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: We now have eight point eight billion dollars in management 274 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: fees in that business against a ten billion twenty twenty 275 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: four target. We're clearly well on our way to hitting 276 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: that target, and that target is not the limit of 277 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: our ambitions. Two billion dollars of that ten billion dollars 278 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: target would be from alternatives. We're now one point eight 279 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: billion dollars on that two billion dollar target. So in 280 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: both cases total and alternatives, we are well on our 281 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: way to hitting and exceeding those targets, which will make 282 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: the firm more durable, more resilient, and more valuable. And 283 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: that two point zero version of asking a wealth management 284 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: is going to be a significant growth vector for the 285 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: firm going forward. Where you have two market leading businesses, 286 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: both mid teams returning businesses, both durable, both resilient through 287 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the cycle, both where we are market leaders, which really 288 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: underpin the financial targets we put out today with our investors. 289 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: So that's the future. But as you get there, there's 290 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: still this idea that it will take two years for 291 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: the consumer business or the platform solutions business to break even. 292 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: Do you think investors will be patient with you along 293 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: that journey? Well, you asked about consumer, okay, So we 294 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: talk today to our investors very much about our path 295 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: to profitability. We basically said we would do three things 296 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: in the firm. One we would grow wallet share and 297 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: grow our financing businesses further than we already have grown them, 298 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: and we grow them considerably. Two we will grow our 299 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: management fees, and three we will create profitability in platform solutions. 300 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: We will deliver profitability in that segment. That segment has 301 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: transaction banking, which is a profitable business, and it has 302 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: consumer platforms where obviously we have head losses in those 303 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: consumer platforms. We have a plan to drive to profitability. 304 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: We told our investors today we would drive to profitability 305 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. We likewise said that we will 306 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: look at and explore and are exploring strategic alternatives to 307 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: make sure that we understand all opportunities in front of 308 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: us to unlock value in platform solutions across this consumer 309 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: those consumer businesses. Another big thing that you said today 310 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: is that you can cut another billion dollars in costs. 311 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Where do those costs come from and how much of 312 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: those costs come from additional headcount reductions after already making 313 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: thirty two hundred. Just to be clear, we talked about 314 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: a billion dollars of operating efficiencies and then we talked 315 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: about reinvesting some are all of those efficiencies back into 316 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: the core franchises. That's an important differentiation. Okay, So we 317 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: obviously did some work on our headcount coming into this year. 318 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Some of those benefits will flow through twenty twenty three. 319 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: Some of those benefits will flow through twenty twenty four. 320 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: We're working hard on some of our other expense based items, 321 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: non compensation items, in particular whether that relates to other 322 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: marketing expenses or operational expenses in the firm that we 323 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: can defer and be more judicious about. So we're looking 324 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: across all of those items that totals a billion dollars 325 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: of efficiencies over time. But importantly, we will look to 326 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: reinvest those efficiencies back into our core franchises, dependent upon 327 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the performance of the firm and upon the broader market environments. Now, 328 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: I want to pivot a little bit here because I 329 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: want to talk about the culture of the firm. You know, 330 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: it's interesting for all of the talk of the turnover. 331 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: You've given an interesting statistic that turnover is out of 332 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: five year low. But at the same time, as UBS 333 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: puts it among investors that there's a concern about gloss 334 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: of confidence among partners, what are you doing they bring 335 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: partners back on your side. Well, we said earlier today 336 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: to our investors that we for the first time in 337 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: four years, we're able to bring all of our partners 338 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: together for an off site. We had many version of 339 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: that during the pandemic, but we couldn't get everybody together 340 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: given the obvious travel restrictions during the pandemic. So for 341 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: the first time a couple of weeks ago, we were 342 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: able to get everybody together, and I would say it 343 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: was an extremely productive and valuable meeting where people walked 344 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: Our partners walked out of that meeting very optimistic about 345 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: the future of the firm, very optimistic about the investments 346 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: we're making in the forward of the opportunity of the firm, 347 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: particularly in those two market leading businesses. And then, like 348 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: many others, have questions about how long will it take 349 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: to drive platform solutions to profitability. So certainly those questions 350 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: come up, some of those questions spill out into the press. 351 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: But I think if you looked at our partnership and 352 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: you walked around and interviewed our partners, they are firmly 353 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: behind the strategy, firmly behind the opportunity, and very excited 354 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: about what's in front of us. The golden secs have 355 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: to go back to in a prior question because I 356 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: feel like I still need an answer. Do you think 357 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: that when it comes to the asset management business that 358 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: you can do something transformative at this phase, especially given 359 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: when you look around the market that they've sold off 360 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: so much. Well, if you looked look at our strategy 361 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: and you listen to what we said today to our investors, 362 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: we have plenty to do organically. We have significan opportunities 363 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: in front of us to drive wallet share and grow 364 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: financing and our banking and markets businesses. That's an organic strategy, 365 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: and asset in wealth management, we have significant opportunities to 366 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: drive management fees. We have significant opportunities to continue to 367 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: invest in our platform operationally and to grow our wealth 368 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: management business. All of those opportunities organic. We can always 369 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: look for inorganic opportunities we have as you know, we've 370 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: made acquisitions. We've bought a business last year in Europe 371 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: called NNIP, which has added substantially to our European footprint, 372 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: and active asset management has given us very interesting ESG 373 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: capabilities across our asset management platform. There are always things 374 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: we can look to do, but our appetite right now 375 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: is most interestingly driven by the organic opportunities. And I 376 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: can't let you go without asking about the broader macro 377 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: environment here. You know, just great expectations have changed drastically 378 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks. How has it changed 379 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: the calculus among your clients for risk appetite? How has 380 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: it changed the calculus for you for risk appetite. Well, 381 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: I would say if you think about what was going 382 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: on at the end of last year, there were significant 383 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: concerns in three primary areas areas. One was the European 384 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: energy crisis, two was China and zero COVID, and three 385 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: was the performance of the US consumer. In all three areas, 386 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: things are broken to the high side. We didn't see 387 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: the energy crisis that everybody predicted, maybe somewhat driven by 388 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: warmer weather, but it didn't occur, and so the European 389 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: situation improved. Nobody predicted that the zero COVID policy would 390 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: pivot very quickly to opening up China largely completely. That 391 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: has changed materially. That's a much more significant upside surprise, 392 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: and the US consumers outperformed, So to me, all three 393 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: of those elements broke to the high side. What I 394 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: think today everybody's wrestling with is how permanent and how 395 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: secular a change is this inflationary environment going to be. 396 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: Most of our clients are very concerned about the inflation, 397 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: particularly corporate clients. They see it being more persistent in 398 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: their businesses. 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