WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: The CB Blueprint? 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.560 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:06.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.879 Cowboys. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:16.320 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:21.800 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:26.439 Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and new He Shrugs. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.880 Here we go Players Lounge right here on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.000 dot Com Radio, brought to you by Aristocrat Gaming. The players, 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.159 Bury Church and Danny mccraye have the day. Also, it 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.000 is us Heck mayersons here, I'm new He Scruggs. We 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.760 will roll with you talking Cowboys for the next forty 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:43.560 five minutes. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.040 We're here at the Star Frisco. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.559 Of course, the team is out in Oxnar, California, at 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.800 training camp. Tomorrow is a joint practice with the Los 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.360 Angeles Rams, so they got one more. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:55.280 Day to get ready for that. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.360 This is a good time to see players because a 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.840 Zeke Kelly is not playing in the preseason game, so 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.480 this work in the joint practices is really the work 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.560 that We're going to see the starters here and also 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.240 hack the opportunity to see some of these young guys 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.640 that can look good against your guys, how do you 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.039 look against Sean mcvays boys, Who are some players that 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:18.800 you're looking at. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.920 That you want to see, you know, I think one, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.160 I'm sure all of these guys are looking forward to 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.640 the opportunity to come up against different oppositions. They're probably 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.720 tired running into each other. But these young guys, I mean, 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:35.240 we have a young linebacker group that I think a 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.200 guy like Maurice lea foul out of Notre Dame, is 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.959 showing the coaches that he could be a centerpiece on 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.319 this defense. His versatility, a guy that can play at 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.360 the line of scrimmage, a guy that can also play 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.360 off ball that really does free up a player like 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:55.920 Michael Parsons. You also have excuse me, Marshaun Kneeling, our 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.920 draft picked. There is another guy that is showing promise 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.760 you on him to show give you even more because 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.440 of Sam Williams going down. So I think he's another 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.240 one amongst that young group that you want to see. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:14.040 But also Carson number forty one, our draft pick. He 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.760 has been probably one of the more surprising guys coming 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.080 out of camp for and you listen to guys like 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.560 Nick Harris talk about and just rave about him and 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.200 his physicality. I think this is a group of rookies 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.880 that's gonna get thrust into the spotlight pretty fast. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:29.520 And so. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.480 It's enough of hearing about you being whether they used 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:38.280 to say all Valley Ranch, it's enough of that all Oxnar. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.119 Now we get an opportunity to see what you could 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.960 do against live competition. And we know in the past 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.880 those joint practices with the rams Man they've gotten heated. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.079 There have been some brawls, and if you followed the 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.720 NFL closely, all over the NFL guys are brawling in camp. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.480 So I think the same thing's gonna happen tomorrow. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.160 I think you hit on a point were said, guys 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.880 are tired of seeing each other. So now it's new too, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.040 it's new people, it's fresh bodies and that next level 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.560 as you're talking about younger players and players who are 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.320 trying to solidify who they are to let the coaches know, Okay, hey, 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.000 it wasn't just against you know, our guys, I'm doing 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.760 it against another NFL team out here. And Sean McVay 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.640 is one of the better coaches in the National Football 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.519 League and they usually have a very good squad. So yes, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.440 it will get Chippy go back to Carson the kid 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.480 from Wake Force. Are the Cowboys starting to get to 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.960 the point where they know how to identify corner talent 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.400 like they do offensive Blindman? 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.520 In your opinion, you got to give Will McLay his 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.800 flowers on that because it goes with Deron Bland. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.000 He goes back further than that, it digs second. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.400 I'm just saying they have been nailing these picks Lewis, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.200 Jordan Lewis, They've missed. They got to throw boss Man 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:55.640 Fat in there too. As much as we say good things, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.840 we gotta be reminded that that there has been some missus. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.960 But I'm telling you Carson and I think what he 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.640 brings from a physicality standpoint. In Mike Zimmer's defense, he's 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.840 everything that you've been wanting. On the back half of 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.760 your defense, I hit a nerve, didn't now. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.560 So the thing on the thing. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:19.159 On Kelvin Joseph is basically all teams do this. And 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.640 I remembered when he was taken there were a group 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:30.160 of folks from Kentucky. They were like, yeah right, They're 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.240 like basically, hey man, you need to go ahead and 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.800 go And one of the things that I've I used 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.000 to tease Danny about because you know, mister Lsu, he 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.600 got mad. It's like, dude, you know what's a problem 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.839 with LSU says you're too hot for Lsu. 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.719 Now Darius guys. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.080 They have some problem children around when they let Darius 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.640 guys stay with all his stuff. But they told Boston, yeah, man, yeah, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.960 you're too hot for us. And so then Kentucky takes 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.000 him Kentucky, yeah, you need to go ahead, go ahead, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.520 hit that draft. By that time, because he was the 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.800 posse kept leading him out of town, calling it a parade. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:10.000 So when you got the player, you're two SEC schools, well, 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.960 you know, the old playing SEC. So everybody's cheating, so 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.120 we're gonna let us slide in the SEC. The two 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.200 schools in the SEC. Yeah, man, no, thank you. He 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:25.560 comes here, same thing. Okay, you question involved in the. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.839 Shooting everywhere you go there you are. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.640 Right right, and the police want to question you. You don't 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:33.880 want to talk to the police. It was just that 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.400 stuff that kept following him, and and for me, Hackma, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:43.720 I've always had this saying, read the entire scouting report, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:49.520 not just the part you like, Okay, the whole thing. Yes, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.800 talented players. He had these things that made you say, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.040 we like the player, but there's this other stuff there 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.000 that was lingering. And to me, I'm one of those 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.040 guys that says, man, I don't want to deal with 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:03.440 all that. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.920 At the same time, while the. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.119 Cowboys get a lot of grief, do you know who's 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.520 got the whole list of problem children off the field 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:16.200 right about now? The Kansas City Chiefs. Yea, bro, Yeah, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.159 they just keep it. Guy, just keep finding trouble. But 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.800 Andy Reid likes taking chances. Tyreek Hill is an excellent 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.240 example of that. His off the field issues that he 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.640 had over Oklahoma State and still got drafted fifth round 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.440 and ended up, you know, being a sensational player. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.520 But he's had some issues off the field that have 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:36.200 followed him. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.719 But so when I look at the Cowboys, you took 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.960 a shot, it didn't work out. They moved along, which 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.520 is what in the past. I remember Dwayne Goodrich was here, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.800 they kept they kept Goodie too long. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:49.800 They've moved on. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.240 And then the other portion of hey, let's use a 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.200 five on it, dron plane and. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.320 So they've made up for it in those areas. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.320 And that's in the way that Deron Bland has worked 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.320 out and you have got like Eric Scott that was 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.520 that that's still here and it's like I said, it's 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.360 Will McLay and what he's been able to do. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:08.640 Nay Sean Wright as well. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.320 I mean they have they've nailed some picks and you 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.679 feel really confident about that cornerback room. But Carson, again, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.520 I just think I love his physicality. I love the 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.800 way this guy plays, the range that he plays with, 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.720 and I think he's going to be one of those 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:23.800 guys that's gonna. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.720 Push Jordan jay Lou. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.600 You know Jay Lou in a one year deal, who 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.240 is still who had a fantastic season last season. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:33.920 He had really good camp. But I don't think, and 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.680 this is just me, I don't think he pushes him. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.760 I just think in a seventeen game season. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.680 Heck, we just know, yes, you're going to need bodies. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:40.960 You're going to need bodies. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.560 I mean, somebody, somebody somewhere in a game is going 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.960 to get nicked up. It's just the nature of football 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.280 that you need to be loaded at that position. And 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:54.440 they're loaded, and clearly Jay Lou represents with Jerry wants 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.360 where he's got these guys playing on one year dealer 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:01.160 man got there sing for the supper, go ahead and get. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.160 With you, Lou been there before, he'd done that, and 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.600 he has performed and gotten another contract. And you know, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.960 I just go back to last season, coming coming into camp, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.480 that was the biggest question whether DRN Bland was going 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.000 to be your nickel corner and Tush and Jay Lou 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.240 and you see how that whole thing expanded with like 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.080 you to your point, guys go down and other guys 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.480 get opportunities. And that's Darn Bland making the most of his. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.160 So staying on where you're at here talking about these 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.320 corners and young corners. Here the testament that we aren't 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:36.720 necessarily giving the Cowboys front office right now, nobody is 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:42.040 talking about Stefan Gilmore, who has a Hall of Fame resume, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.440 former Defensive Player of the Year, a starter for the 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.680 team last year, who Digs and other players spoke about 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.640 how they were learning from him. They let him go. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.520 You're not missing him. That you're seeing young guys step 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.440 up and that they have a formula, they know how 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.160 to identify it. That's big when you can I mean, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.240 I can't say enough of how impressed I was with 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.480 Gilmour last year being at camp watching him work, watching 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.160 the other people see what he does. I mean to mean, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.080 that's the kind of veteran guy that you want in 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.160 a room. I thought Cooks kind of did the same 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.880 thing on the other side for the receivers room, where 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.480 people could look and say, hey, man, here's a super 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.600 Bowl player. And while Cooks didn't win the Super Bowl 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.240 played in it twice, Gilmore did end up winning a 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.400 super Bowl with the Patriots. The guys can look and say, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.400 all right, this is what we need to do. And 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.679 I feel like the Cowboys are starting to understand how 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.400 to draft and identify corners the way they do offensive 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:38.600 lineman and in this league, the lack of depth at 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:43.559 those two positions, and that they have it monumental. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.720 Yeah, Stephan Gilmore, I think from the moment that he 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.240 came through the doors, he added that element of validity 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.319 to your defense, a veteran presence, a guy that's been 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.160 their defensive player of the year, all of that Super 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.599 Bowl ring to go with it. I think his status, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.520 most of those guys have to respect that immediately, and 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.640 I think for the Cowboy Nation Cowboy fans, those are 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.360 the kind of moves that you wanted to see made 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.600 in the off season, bringing in a guy that could 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.960 push a CD lamp, you know, bringing in a guy 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.040 that could push maybe some of these guys in the 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.480 defensive front, push some of these guys in the running 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.959 back room. So look, I you're absolutely correct, because to me, 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.000 his loss, I'm like, how do you replace a guy 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.480 like that? But this front office, this scouting department, has 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.000 done a tremendous job of bringing in young talent to 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.000 now you know, hey, this is the first that I've 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.240 heard of Stephan Gilmour today. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.920 Yeah, And that was kind of what I was when 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.520 you were going down the list. I was like, how 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.760 about that. We're not missing Gilmore, which I thought was 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.000 going to be an issue at all. And to my doms, 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.920 I don't think he's signed anywhere at all, and so 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.640 maybe he's just waiting on someone to get hurting that 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.880 pop in there and get himself an opportunity. It doesn't 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.920 look like he's going to be back with the Cowboys 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:59.240 in any capacity. To go back to Marshaw Kneelan, you're 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.400 definitely hoping for a rookie year, but a rookie year 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.400 is a rookie year. There's gonna be some some growing 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.640 pains here. So let's let's make sure we understand that 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.280 about the young man. This is probably the last year 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:09.920 of Tank Lords. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:12.440 That's tough, man. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.640 No, no, it's not. Because it's the evolution of football. Yeah, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.439 it's the evolution of football. He had four sacks last 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:24.760 year and he had ten quarterback pressures like we saw 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.160 at Tyron Smith. Thank you. So so I'm looking at Tank. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.040 There's there's two guys that I think this is gonna 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.440 be the last year for them on this team. Tank 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.520 Lords and Zach Martin. Okay, I just look at these 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.520 players and just say, okay, you know what for what 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.679 they when the Cowboys got them what they were looking 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:44.280 for them to do. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:45.400 Job, well done. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.319 Okay, these were two solid draft picks who ended up 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.320 signing multiple contracts with your team, playing in Pro Bowls. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.760 Zach Martin is going to the Pro Football Hall of 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.440 Fame that this was probably their last two seasons. And 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.880 for Tank Lawrence's it's the nature of that position. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:02.240 Man. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.559 You know, when you when you play on the D line, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.840 your body's just you know, you start playing eight nine years, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.160 your body's going to get beat up and worn down. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.920 And you're not the player you used to be. Tank. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.439 You just saw it last year, not the player used 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.920 to be, which is why they went and got you know, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.160 Marshawn and. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.559 Will mcclay's openly talked about him being a little tank. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.679 Yeah, and so for me, I look at this as 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.200 the last year and oh, by the way, what is it. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.280 We know they're gonna have to start paying some guys, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:32.960 so you're gonna have to look at some high dollar 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.160 players and just say okay, boom here. Zach Martin's openly 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.439 talked about maybe maybe. And so when you start talking 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:40.760 maybe to me, I gotta look. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.160 At that it is you're already there. So once you 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:44.839 open that door. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:49.360 So potentially those are two large calories salary cap numbers 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.440 that could come open for you as you're trying to, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.600 you know, take care of a CD Lamb, take care 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.640 of Dak Prescott, and then you're going to have to 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.360 take care of Michael Parsons. You're gonna have a droning 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.240 that you need to pay. You cannot let dron blank 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:02.880 and want to do it. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.040 No, that's not only that. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.280 I think these are all good problems to have with 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.920 guys that you have to pay that are homegrown talents. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.000 But when it comes to Tank Lawrence, man, this is 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.320 he's going into his tenth season, and that seemed like 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.839 that went so fast when I think about him as 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.559 a player and his development, and give coach Leon Lett, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.400 former Cowboy Great, a lot of credit for his development 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.400 of Tank Lawrence early, because they really didn't know how 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.360 to use him initially. At first, he was a little undersized. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.360 He put on the way sixty three, two sixty five now, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.400 but it was always playing light and they found a 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.920 way to get him involved. I think Tank is a 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:44.440 guy that for all intensive purposes last season, he was 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.400 probably the best that we had in stopping the run, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.760 and teams realized that they had to They really had 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.160 to get blockers a hat on number ninety in order 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.600 to get the running game going. Other guys not so much, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.720 but Tank is was really consistent in that way. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:04.080 As the Cowboys keep moving towards drafting young players that 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.320 have to be paid, you're going to have to look 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.440 at some of the older players on your roster and 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.320 you're going to have to go ahead and let people go. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:11.520 This is just the nature of it. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.680 I go with a Dalton Schultz, who had a really 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.800 good year for the Houston Texans last year as they 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.920 won the division, and he was a great safety blanket 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:18.280 for CJ. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.880 Strat who had excellent season. They let him go. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:27.560 He gets ten million dollars, and here's Jake Ferguson, And that, 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.360 to me is what the Cowboys really. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:30.800 This is the position you're in now. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.000 As you've drafted players, they become Pro Bowl type players, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.280 you can't keep all of them, and you're gonna have 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:38.800 to do that. And so to me, I look at 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.040 Tank Lawrence as one of those next guys there, and 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.320 then I look at you know what they did with 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:44.200 Marshaan and. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:45.840 This this is what you have to do. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.960 You've got to start to see who are these other 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.080 guys that are that are that are coming along here? 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.000 Because I got other guys I gotta pay. Then I 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.000 think about somebody like George Lewis, depending on what happens 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.560 with them, yes he'll be a free agent. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.440 But man Nickel corner in this league. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.280 Matters, yeah it, And so if he's out here and 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.600 he has a really good year, then that's another front 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.480 office decision that you're going to have to sit around 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.080 here and make and say, Okay, what do we do? 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.120 How do we pay him or do we let him go? 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.520 I mean, remember wh Cheto Whosia was here and Byron Jones. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.280 These are two guys you drafted who became starters and 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.920 you had to make a decision on. They basically paid 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.240 Amari Cooper, therefore you didn't have the money to pay Jones. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.680 Jones gets the highest paid contract ever in free agency 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.600 for a corner from Miami. Never became the player that 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.240 they wanted him to be. Cheeto ends up going to 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.960 Cincinnati and is a starter on their Super Bowl team. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.720 This is the nature of what you're doing now when 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.560 you draft very well, and that's that's what's happening, and 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.480 it's going to keep happening here for the Cowboys as 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:44.840 you got these high ticket price. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:45.680 You gotta pay well. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.520 You know, when you talk about Dalton, Dalton, Schultz and Ferguson, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.600 I think first of all, you have to see that 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.080 spark from that said player when you make that replacement. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.240 And that's where I think a guy like Sam Williams 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.600 it was easy to replace maybe a Dorin's Armstrong and 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.280 some of those other names and just go ahead and 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.240 let those guys walk because you recognize as to your 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.760 point that you have a young guy coming behind him 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.840 that could be better as far as the the as 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.680 far as the value that you place on a nickel corner, 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:19.760 like what Jordan Lewis does is a specific skill set 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.880 that not a lot of guys in the NFL have, 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.160 and that's why he has that value and it's always 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.120 been able to stick. He's going, He'll have plenty of 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.120 opportunities if not here, of course, you know, because of 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.280 what he does and how competitive he is. But you're right, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.280 I mean, this is a very this is a very 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:42.440 young roster. They're bringing in guys that can play right now, 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.400 and these joint practices in this preseason is very important 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:47.400 for a lot of these guys. 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.720 Man, when I think about just the nickel players in 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.960 this league, and just go to your division. Regardless of 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.680 the former former right over the Dallas Morning News Hall 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.200 of Famer spoke, you used to tell me say, now 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.120 you've got to figure out how do you win your division? 0:16:59.120 --> 0:16:59.400 First? 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.360 Yeah, and you start thinking about some of the slot 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:08.200 type receivers and receivers in this division. Philly Washington Giants 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:08.960 have gone out here. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.040 It's tough. He's got some guys. Right, So you've got players. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:12.960 You've got players here. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.920 The quarterback questions in Washington, in New York are they're 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.919 not so in Philadelphia. But yeah, man, you got to 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.960 have a guy like Jordan Lewis and who's coming up 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:27.600 behind him? Because you know, Jordan gets hurt in the game, said, hamstrings, tweaks, ankles, 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.840 things happen. Who's ready to go? So back to the 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.679 point we're making here at the top the Cowboys scene 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.320 to understand how to draft corner now the way they 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.520 have offensive linemen, and we know when it comes to 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.919 the Cowboys drafting offensive lineman, they are drafting Pro Bowl, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.080 All Pro lineman. And you look at Zach Martin, you 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.080 look at Tyron Smith. These are guys with Hall of 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.160 Fame resumes. All right, man, let's get our first break 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.159 in here, a whole lot to get to one player 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.000 that we didn't talk about as a young guy having 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.119 a really good camp. 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