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Speaker 1: a podcast I have to talk about things, some thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I saw something on Antonio Brown's Instagram that connects with

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Speaker 1: Brady Rogers and Russell Wilson. I will dive into this

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Speaker 1: kind of explosive story might be strong, but the story

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Speaker 1: revolving around to a tongua by Loa in all of

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Speaker 1: his interceptions have some takes on there from his week

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Speaker 1: mini camps then of course Middlecoff mail bag and uh,

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Speaker 1: get you out of here one one, take up too

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Speaker 1: much of your time. Just enjoy, you know, a little

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Speaker 1: late week weekend little podcast, Let's rock and roll. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I I wanted to touch on it. It hit me.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch like Real Housewives. I really don't watch

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Speaker 1: any reality TV. The only reality TV I do is

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Speaker 1: follow sports, which you could argue, I mean, the NFL

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Speaker 1: is arguably the biggest reality television show in America right now,

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Speaker 1: so are all the other leagues. The NBA Baseball golf

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Speaker 1: us opens going on right now. In the background of

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Speaker 1: recording this, like they they that is my reality television. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And luckily I've been able to do this for a

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Speaker 1: living and can make money off talking essentially about reality television.

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Speaker 1: But one thing I'm probably still a sucker for is

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Speaker 1: following some people either on Instagram or Twitter that are

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Speaker 1: kind of my real you know, real housewives and Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: who once upon a time got traded to the to

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Speaker 1: Pretty crazy move, right, Remember he went scores earth on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. They shipped him to Mayok and Gruden, and

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Speaker 1: by the time that he came in on the blimp

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Speaker 1: to training camp, his feet were burned off. He didn't

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Speaker 1: even make it the week one, ended up playing for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots for a week and then even Belichick cut him.

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Speaker 1: I follow Antonio Brown on Instagram. Not exactly sure why,

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Speaker 1: but that is my you know, kind of that would

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Speaker 1: be my real housewives, like I. I don't have no

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Speaker 1: reason to follow him on Instagram, but I'm glad I

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Speaker 1: did because I saw something this week that made me think.

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Speaker 1: And he was working out at Tampa Bay at their facilities,

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Speaker 1: mandatory manicamp happened a week ago. They are gone for

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Speaker 1: Alex Guero, And it made me think. So it's really

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Speaker 1: not about Antonio Brown. It's about what that represents. And

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Speaker 1: let's start with this. I've been lucky enough to know

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Speaker 1: And most of the super rich, successful people I've known,

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Speaker 1: don't teach UH an old dog new tricks, Like we

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Speaker 1: kind of become who we are if we let ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Especially once you become successful, it's easy to you know,

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Speaker 1: validate to yourself, like I know what I'm doing. I

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Speaker 1: But there is something to be said about having conviction

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Speaker 1: because remember that was a pretty explosive story, letting him

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Speaker 1: around that asshole the entire time, and they kicked ass

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Speaker 1: and they took names. Everyone listening, if your favorite team

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Speaker 1: and kick the ship out of your squad. We've all

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Speaker 1: seen it. In September through December to the playoffs, they

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Speaker 1: beat everybody. I mean so that they worked fine together

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Speaker 1: with his personality, But there gets to a point where

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Speaker 1: Tom and I don't blame him for this as he

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Speaker 1: got in his late thirties and even early forties, he goes,

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Speaker 1: the reason I'm still kicking, but the reason I'm still

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Speaker 1: dominating is this guy. And you clearly like, like what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing dominating, You have to let incorporate this guy,

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Speaker 1: and Bill struggled with it. I listened to a Julian

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Speaker 1: I didn't know, but it makes sense. No pictures are

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Speaker 1: and that was something recently. They got the forty Niners

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Speaker 1: in trouble. One of their players had instagrammed out a

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Speaker 1: man him throwing the receiver. You're not allowed to do

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Speaker 1: that in The Niners got docked, they got in Trump.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason behind Bill's madness. It actually makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense. But I do believe that part of

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Speaker 1: the split between Brady and Belichick was Belichick's inability to

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Speaker 1: ever be open minded with stuff, because in fairness, he

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Speaker 1: was very dead set on certain things and his rules.

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Speaker 1: And they worked and they worked forever. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair to say that last year, if they could

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Speaker 1: have mended the relationship, they would have been better off

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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, right. And it's not like Tom regretts

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Speaker 1: to leave it. He freaking won the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: he got to do it on his terms. But seeing

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Speaker 1: Guero worked with Tampa Bay, I give the Bucks credit.

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Speaker 1: What are they? Tom? What do you need, Bro? You

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Speaker 1: need this? You need that. We're here for you. Alex.

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Speaker 1: You want us to pay him, We'll give him a

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Speaker 1: couple hundred grand put up on staff as well. He

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Speaker 1: was something Tom Brady got with Tampa that he was

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Speaker 1: never going to get in New England. He knew it.

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Speaker 1: You knew it, We all know it. And it's playing

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Speaker 1: And if I I wouldn't even have been privy to this,

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Speaker 1: and I see him training in the weight room by themselves.

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Speaker 1: That is not that normal, right, But I give Tampa

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Speaker 1: credit for being open minded, and which they should have been.

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Speaker 1: They hadn't made the playoffs in twelve years. Tom, whatever

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Speaker 1: whatever you want, Bro, Alex, does he have any play ideas?

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Speaker 1: Tell him to tell Bruce is this you're part of this?

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Speaker 1: You're basically we can't give you equity in the team.

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Speaker 1: That's their league by laws behind that, but we want

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Speaker 1: you to be a partner in at operation. So who

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Speaker 1: whoever your people are, bring them isn't that how business

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Speaker 1: is done. Once we start doing business together and we

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Speaker 1: become partners. Like some of your people come into my life,

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Speaker 1: some of my people come into your life. It's all intertwined.

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Speaker 1: And Belichick was very big on separating church and state.

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Speaker 1: I'm a coach, you're a player. I tell you what

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Speaker 1: are one of the greatest, I mean arguably the greatest

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Speaker 1: don't get the same treatment as Tom Brady gets with

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Speaker 1: think that is beyond moronic. Part of Tom Brady's equity

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Speaker 1: differentiation he has when quote unquote demanding I don't think

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Tampa Bay, he takes a freaking discount.

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Speaker 1: John Hamm, that's what the money is for when I

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Speaker 1: everything humanly possible, which is it all their fault? No,

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Speaker 1: but Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers do not win the

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Speaker 1: five thirty eight million dollars. Tom, who is infinitely more

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Speaker 1: no problem with anyone taking them mad X amount of money.

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Speaker 1: It's fucking capitalism. Do whatever you want, but there are

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Speaker 1: Alex to freaking get his own private jet, will fly

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Speaker 1: him around. What do you need? But here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: For twenty years, twenty years, Tom produced win after win

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Speaker 1: but he had won way more than these guys. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you guys actually don't have

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Speaker 1: as much in common with Tom Brady as you like

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Speaker 1: to think. Despite being elite quarterbacks, first ballot Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks like you guys create this diva persona, and

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Speaker 1: let's face it can be a pain in the ass

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Speaker 1: for your organization. Where Tom, if anything, the only pain

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Speaker 1: in the ask for New England was always the fans

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Speaker 1: like Bill just give in a little to Tom, Like

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Speaker 1: even the die hard patriot people which in the bunker

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Speaker 1: with Tom and Bill, I think everyone would acknowledge like Bill,

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Speaker 1: just just give in on this. Just be a little

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Speaker 1: just give it to him. He's earned that, right, I

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Speaker 1: don't know with two decades worth of as kicking. Where

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Speaker 1: these guys it's like, well, Aaron, we just paid you

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Speaker 1: a premium and and you've won with the team that

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Speaker 1: we've put around you, and now you're bitching a moan

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Speaker 1: in russ Now you're claiming you don't want to get traded. Like, come,

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Speaker 1: let's just face it isn't as fraudulent as those guys

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Speaker 1: John loved the pod. It's only the middle of June

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Speaker 1: and I'm already sick of the media making a big

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Speaker 1: deal about NFL players getting vaccinated or not. Don't they

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Speaker 1: realize how violent a game they sign up for to play. Also,

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Speaker 1: NFL players are among the healthiest humans on the planet,

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Speaker 1: so it's completely understandable why they wouldn't want an emergency vaccine. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: with the current media landscape, I feel like this isn't

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Speaker 1: going away well, just in general when it comes to Corona,

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Speaker 1: I think the overall media landscape, they were the most

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Speaker 1: emotional by far. Uh that they celebrated lockdowns time and

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Speaker 1: time again. UH. They didn't like let's face it, a

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Speaker 1: lot of them deny it. They wanted sports canceled last year.

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Speaker 1: They were extremely there an emotional group that they really are. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I also think that them constantly asking these players is

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Speaker 1: a little weird. UH. But I also I guess get

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Speaker 1: it is their job. I guess I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: actually feel like just big picture, most of the media

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Speaker 1: UH lost a lot of credibility over the last year.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us common normal people in society.

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Speaker 1: They don't resonate with us that much anymore. Uh. Their

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Speaker 1: risk tolerance and other people in my life's risk tolerance

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Speaker 1: are completely different. But Corona didn't phase my life. I

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Speaker 1: was lucky enough in the job I do didn't phase

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Speaker 1: me at all. Financially, did a little at the beginning

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Speaker 1: but like I was not. I never for one second

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Speaker 1: was scared. Was around a lot of people with Corona

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Speaker 1: unfazed by it. Now I got the vaccine recently. I

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Speaker 1: got it for business though, because I know when I

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Speaker 1: want to go to forty nine practice in training camp,

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Speaker 1: do you know what, I don't want to be able

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Speaker 1: to have to do wear a mask or have to

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Speaker 1: follow these stupid ass rules. And I think the NFL

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Speaker 1: is telling these guys, if you get the vaccine, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to wear a mask. You can just do

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Speaker 1: whatever you want. You don't have to get tested. Like

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why the NBA is still testing players.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me. I think it's stupid.

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Speaker 1: It's all for theater. The NFL is not into theater.

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Speaker 1: They're into printing money. And the way they print money

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Speaker 1: is their games. And if you threaten their games, you're

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Speaker 1: threatening their business. And that's why the NFL is like, listen,

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Speaker 1: you have to get vaccinated. So the NFL is really

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Speaker 1: kind of pushing it just because they want business as normal.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to have any more tests. They don't

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Speaker 1: have to want to have to worry about it. And

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Speaker 1: like I listen, the media is gonna do their own thing,

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Speaker 1: But I think big picture of the NFL, just like

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Speaker 1: the the entire country is open, even California with no

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Speaker 1: masks anymore, even though the irony is everywhere I go

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Speaker 1: people were in a mask. It's like, well, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: if you're wearing a mask still you're vaccinated. Are you

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Speaker 1: a fraud? Like? Are you a science denier because we

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Speaker 1: shot shut down the economy for people like you get

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Speaker 1: when you're told by literally the scientists, take that fucking

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Speaker 1: thing off. You still got it on? What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: And that to me kind of those people kind of

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Speaker 1: represent moves of the media, so I get why they're

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Speaker 1: always on these players like say, I'm Darnald, why don't

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Speaker 1: you do it? He's like, well, I'm twenty five, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm healthy, I'm fine, i am of I'm more risk

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Speaker 1: walking across the street. But the NFL is telling you

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Speaker 1: get this thing so we can play. It's really that simple. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's not the way the media when they talk about

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Speaker 1: it sounds, But that's all the NFL cares about, and

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Speaker 1: really all they should because they want to get their

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Speaker 1: business up rocking and rolling again. Uh, John, I'm a

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Speaker 1: big time fan of the show. It provides a nice

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Speaker 1: escape from the rigors of everyday life. That being said,

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Speaker 1: how much stock do you put into mini camp performances?

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Speaker 1: For example, two or through five picks on a day

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Speaker 1: one of camp and six touchdowns? The next is mini

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Speaker 1: camps somewhat irrelevant from a performance standpoint compared to preseason games. Uh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I I think mini camp, as if we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 1: is pretty irrelevant. But I mean, what else are we

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about it this time of year? So I

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Speaker 1: get why people were talking about it, But I think

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Speaker 1: I went over that. Hey John, back to the whole

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Speaker 1: levy On situation with him sitting out on the franchise

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Speaker 1: tag that year, it always seems like he's being thrown

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Speaker 1: under the bus when anyone can do it. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he got thrown under the bus. He was celebrated

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Speaker 1: the media, all the football people, all the former players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were like, get it, let be on,

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Speaker 1: you did it. He he was. They put him on

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Speaker 1: a pedestal for taking a stand. Call me crazy, but

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Speaker 1: wasn't it that the right move? If he played out

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Speaker 1: the tag that year fourteen million and suffered a major

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Speaker 1: injury like Dack did. There's no way the Jets would

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Speaker 1: have given him thirty five million dollars guaranteed. They gave

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Speaker 1: him seven. Considering the fact that he hasn't been the

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Speaker 1: same player since the seventeen I think that might be

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Speaker 1: in the correct financial move by sitting out damn And

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Speaker 1: I think it was a disastrous move because you get

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Speaker 1: hurt doing anything playing football. He played the last two years,

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Speaker 1: didn't get hurt like I mean, maybe had a hamstring

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But he he made a fourteen million dollar moved.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's fourteen million dollars less rich right now.

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Speaker 1: He has twenty seven million dollars, but he would have

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Speaker 1: had fourteen and then he would have had twenty seven

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Speaker 1: and maybe playing with the Steelers where he was good,

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Speaker 1: he might have even made more. The Jets were so

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Speaker 1: desperate they gave a guy twenty seven million dollars that

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Speaker 1: no one else would touch him if wasn't for the

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Speaker 1: clown Jets, like there weren't that many people lined up

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Speaker 1: because he hadn't played. You get paid to play. I

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Speaker 1: truly believe it's one of the worst decisions financially any

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Speaker 1: players ever made in my life. I live in central

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Speaker 1: Phoenix and I've been listening to you in the Hand

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Speaker 1: podcast for quite a while now. My brother and I

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Speaker 1: will be in northern California at the end of July,

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Speaker 1: and I thought i'd hit you up to see if

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Speaker 1: you had any recommendations for any good golf courses we

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Speaker 1: should play while we're passing through. Nothing too crazy expensive

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Speaker 1: like Harding Park or Pebble, but a few courses that

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Speaker 1: are sweet that you may recommend. Uh. I would try

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Speaker 1: Carica it's an Alameda. I would try Chardonnay or Eagle Vines.

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Speaker 1: It's in Napa, very reasonably priced. I would try Calippi.

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Speaker 1: It's in pleasant In, just to name a few. Those

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Speaker 1: are public courses that are all under a hundred dollars. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I would play Harding Park. I think Harding Parks very sweet.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, been listening for a while from Memphis, started

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Speaker 1: from the Herd and can't get enough of you. My

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Speaker 1: dad and I are huge fans. Anyway, you could debate,

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Speaker 1: anyway you could debate. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers would

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Speaker 1: love to hear that. I just want to rub it

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Speaker 1: in my dad's face how much better Tom Brady is

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Speaker 1: than Aaron Rodgers. Well, individually, Aaron Rodgers is more talented

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Speaker 1: than Tom Right, better athlete, better arm Uh probably I

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Speaker 1: have to check the numbers. His price feels a little

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Speaker 1: more accurate. That could be wrong, but yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: Tom wins a lot more now as Tom. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: lost at home this year. That was just a bad loss.

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Speaker 1: It really was. I mean really, Aaron's career is gonna

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Speaker 1: end with one super Bowl more than likely. It's pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy because he was arguably the most talented player in

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Speaker 1: the league for ten years. But as we know, talent

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Speaker 1: like talent doesn't equal just talent is not everything, and

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Speaker 1: football is a team game. And Aaron's defense has let

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Speaker 1: him down at different times. But Tom's better for sure.

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Speaker 1: Huge fan of the show and all you do. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask what your thoughts are on the Jets

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Speaker 1: going into this upcoming season and the potential of their

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Speaker 1: defense after a few injury riddled COVID years. I can't

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Speaker 1: help but think this talented group outside of two starters

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Speaker 1: at corner, that this group has the potential to help

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Speaker 1: the Jets be a legit team. Feels like as long

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Speaker 1: as Zack Wilson doesn't pull it, Donald and throw pick

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Speaker 1: six is his first throw in the league. With at

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Speaker 1: least a decent performance from this team, they can win

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Speaker 1: eight games. I don't know. Their team is not that talented,

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Speaker 1: and they have a rookie quarterback and a first time

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Speaker 1: head coach and a first time play caller and a

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Speaker 1: first time defensive coordinator even though Solid technically is a

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Speaker 1: you know, defensive guy, but he's not the coordinator. I

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Speaker 1: to me, five wins feels about right. They're just not

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Speaker 1: that good and their division stacked, Bills are loaded, Dolphins

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Speaker 1: are good, Patriots gonna be better. I I think if

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Speaker 1: they want five game aims but showed some promise and

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Speaker 1: still had a you know, a top seven eight pick,

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Speaker 1: they'd be in pretty good shape. I do not think

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Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna be very good unless Zack Wilson

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Speaker 1: is like Rookie of the Year, which I am not expecting.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not and I'm not that's not trying to

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Speaker 1: be a hater. I'm just being realistic. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: end it there. Keep it as short, short and sweet,

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Speaker 1: nice little pod. You guys know the drill at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff shooting on Instagram. If you want, yeah, tell your

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Speaker 1: friends about the podcast, have a great weekend, Peace,