1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: One O three five Kiss FM, Chicago's number one hit 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: music stations, The Thread Show. This is what's trending, all right. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: So I'm not blaming this on Spirit, but I mean 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: it only seems to happen to Spirit this kind of thing. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: A Spirit Airlines flane was flying from Fort Lauderdale to 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Haiti was diverted after it was hit by gunfire whoa 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: while attempting to land Imported Prince. The plane was struck 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: by gunfire four times while tempting to land in the 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: capital city of Haiti. The Spirit Airlines plane diverted and 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: landed safely in Santiago, Dominican Republic. No passengers reported injuries, 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: and one flight attendant on board the plane reported unspecified 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: minor injuries and was undergoing medical evaluation. The plane came 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: within five hundred and fifty feet of the runway before 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: aborting its landing and diverting to the Dominican Republic. Jet 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: Blue had a similar thing from Haiti to New York 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: City was also hit by a bullet. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh. 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: The US Embassene Haiti has issued a security alert saying 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: that it was aware of the gang led efforts to 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: block trend ravel to and from border prints, which may 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: include armed violence and disruptions to roads, sports and airports. 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's giving civil unrest more than like the plane's fault. 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: I thought the Spirit thing, I know, the rat or something. 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: It was somebody with these rats. Enough no more. They 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: never found the rat on the other one. They just 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: gave up. They're like, it's not here anymore. I guess, no, no, 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: it was. No. No, it's very scary though. 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 5: That is terrifying. 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: But this stuff only seems to have in a Spirit 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm not having a jet Blue too. But it's like 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: you know some other airlines. 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: They wheels falling off, you know, yours falling off. 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: People boo booing in the seat. 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: What are they doing? 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: They Okay, here it is is just going through a 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 5: rough time like the rest of these airlines. 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Okay, the wheels falling over it. I guess it's true. 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I guess. So it's just like I know people that 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: work I actually, like actually know people who work for Spirit, 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: and they're like, I don't I don't know, I. 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 6: Don't know here. 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: It's just like I just to fly the plane. It 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: seems to work fine. I don't know what's going on 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: the Government's highway safety agency is investigating complaints that engines 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: can fail on as many as one point four million 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Honda and Accurate vehicles. So if you have one that 48 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: was made between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, then you 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: might want to look into that. You could lead to 50 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: some form of complete engine failure vehicles with the three 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: point five liter V six Yeah, something about ball bearing, 52 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: rod bearings and I don't know, get mechanic mic on 53 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: the phone. I don't know what the hell over. I 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: probably should know what a rod bearing is, but I don't. Anyway, 55 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: it's not good on the twenty sixteen to twenty twenty 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Honda's and Accuras, So you might want to look into that. 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Reliable cars too, if you've got one to be busy 58 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: taking on work no payment. I'm going to Taylor, Swift 59 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: and Vancouver this weekend or whatever is Toronto this weekend? 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 6: No Vancouver, Yeah, No, Tronto is first. 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Taylor, a cruise line company, is offering a four year 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: package for customers to skip forward to avoid the Donald 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Trump presidency as a whole. Villa VI Residences announced it's 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: Skip Forward program forty thousand dollars a year you live 65 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: on the boat, so residents have the flexibility to join 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: their customized journey at any port during a continuous global 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: adventure for up to four years. You could also purchase 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: the entire four year package at once, either one hundred 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: and fifty nine thousand dollars per person for a room 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: for two or two hundred and fifty five thousand dollars 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: for single occupancy. So you're either sharing, I guess, or 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: just you. But I guess you can just come and 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: go as you please, as boat just moves all around 74 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: the country. But you could live on it if you 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: wanted to. You live on a cruise ship and go 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: all around the world. I'm here for that. I would 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: do that. It's like semester and see for grown ups, 78 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: did any of you go on You didn't do some 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: semester scene? Oh it was like you go to like 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: twenty countries in a semester, college semester. I don't know 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: how many countries it is. Let me see. I know 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: someone who did it, like study abroad, but except you're 83 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: on a boat and semester. 84 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: Me neither. For too long, I've. 85 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: Always wanted to go on a cruise, but just won't go. 86 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: So I'm with her too. Dizzy semester to see, look 87 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: at this thing. One hundred days, ten countries, and you 88 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: can get as many as twelve to fifteen academic credits 89 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: from Colorado State University along the way. And I guess 90 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: they go to different places depending on the time of year. 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: But yeah, ten to twelve countries and one hundred days 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: and you're on this boat. 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: That would have been cool. 94 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Sounds like debauchery, honestly, I mean imagine, imagine, you know, 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: I remember many hundreds of college kids on a boat 96 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: and you're going to like, you know, my order or 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: whoever you're going. 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 6: From, you to Triangle. Yeah, I've always wanted to go there. 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I guess maybe you might go. Like I 100 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: would love for you to point that out on a map, 101 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Jason Bart. 102 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 6: It's somewhere in the ocean, somewhere in the other world. 103 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what a deal. Two hundred and sixty thousand 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: dollars just for you for four years now, I guess, 105 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: like if you could come and go and like your 106 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: room just stays there and you get to eat and everything. 107 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Forty thousand dollars, what is that? That's more than forty 108 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, though, don't like seniors do that. 109 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Like I've heard of that they sell their house and 110 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: they live on a boat. You live on the cruise ship. Yeah, 111 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: you could do it. I guess enough. More of the 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: escape research monkeys have been recaptured. We told you about 113 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: that last week. Over a dozen monkeys is still on 114 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: the loose, though after escaping from a research facility. Forty 115 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: three monkeys originally escape thirty have been recaptured. The animals 116 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: are reportedly in good health. They've been using food to 117 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: lure them into traps. All of the escapees are females 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: and have been interacting with their mates despite being on 119 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: the outside. How does that work? What are they usually 120 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: calling them escapees or females have been interacting with their 121 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: mates despite being on I don't know what now they 122 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: are like they went outside and they were like, I 123 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: didn't find anything, and they came now, I guess I'll 124 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: stick with you. I guess. I don't know what that 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: means exactly. Wisconsint officials think that the missing kayaker, I 126 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: guess this is a big story in Wisconsin, faked his 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: own death. So this dude went missing while kayaking and 128 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: a lake in Wisconsin on August twelfth, and weeks ago. 129 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: I guess weeks. It took them weeks to try and 130 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: find this guy. Cadaver dogs, a dive team, they found 131 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: no trace of him. Police did a fishing They did 132 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: find a fishing rod. They found a tackle box with 133 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: his wallet, license and keys inside. However, the first break 134 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: in the case came when it was found that the 135 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: missing man's passport was used in Canada the day after 136 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: he disappeared. Authorities think that he got a new passport, 137 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: and then they searched his laptop they found evidence that 138 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: he was someplace in Europe. Detectives say that he'd also 139 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: been talking with a woman from Uzbeka, Stan right before 140 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: he vanished. Kiki, who's he running from his wife? Oh? 141 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: To try and be with the lady in Uzbekistan? Definitely 142 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: not a lady in news Vekistan. Well, I mean, I 143 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine if 144 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: you blow up your whole life, you blow your entire life, 145 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: you fake your death, you you go, you know wherever 146 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: to Europe to meet this person you fell in love 147 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: with online to find out you got catfished, and now 148 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: you got to call your wife and be like ah, 149 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: I was just playing. I was just playing to see. 150 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Gong Girl's the same way, right, Yeah, she takes her 151 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: own death or she fakes her she faked Does she 152 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: fake her own I don't I don't remember that. It's 153 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: been a while since I've seen that movie. 154 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: In Gong Girl, Yeah, yeah. 155 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: She fakes her own death and she but she doesn't 156 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: claim she went for love. She claims she was kidnapped, right, yes, yes, 157 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: and then later comes back and says, I escaped, but 158 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: it turns out none of it ever happened, and then 159 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: blamed Dugie Hauser. Well, Dookie's always up to it, you know, 160 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: he's always up to stuff. But no, this this guy 161 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: apparently was running for love. But I mean that's a 162 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: very loud scheme, Like how much do you dislike me? 163 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean you could just divorce me and moved to Zbekkistan, right, 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: But I mean instead we're faking, you know, our own 165 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: disappearance and stuff. There was a story like that about 166 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: a guy who he crashed his own airplane but jumped 167 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: out of it before, like he jumped out of his 168 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: plane but staged a crack, like he actually made the 169 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: airplane crash into a forest, but he jumped out of 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: it before. I guess because he was trying to keep 171 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: his money and live another life for the authorities were 172 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: coming after him. I don't remember what it was. There 173 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: was a dayline about it, there was a bunch of stuff. 174 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, talk about that's a whole different level. 175 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you crashed a plane, You've risked your own 176 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, you got to really want out of 177 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: your life. I guess to do something like that. But anyway, 178 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: they better go to Uzbekistan find his gun. A New 179 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: Jersey homeowner was left with seven hundred dollars worth of 180 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: damage after masked pranksters from TikTok stormed his front door 181 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: as part of a new TikTok challenge that we don't 182 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: need to do. At least once a week, it's hey, 183 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: here's something else from TikTok that we do not need 184 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: to do. Teams across the country are kicking in the 185 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: front doors of strangers' homes as hard as possible before 186 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: running off and then filming the prank for views. Oftentimes, 187 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: the teams cover their faces and strike at night. I'm 188 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: not I'm not wishing this on anybody. I'm not wishing 189 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: it around and find out right, you want to kick 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: it wrong. Don't try this in Texas. Don't try this 191 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: in Indiana. Don't try this. Honestly, if someone starts kicking 192 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: on my door right, I don't know, like stuff might happen. 193 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: I might feel the need to defent myself in a 194 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: way that I don't realize. I'm you know, ha ha funny, 195 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: TikTok pranku. You know what I mean. I don't. I 196 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: don't like this idea especially well I never but not 197 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: right now. People are so just read the doorbell and 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: run away. 199 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 6: What do you kick. 200 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: Anymore? Because now I got cameras on there, it takes 201 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: all the fun away. 202 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: I'm gone. 203 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't do anything. You can't tpe someone's 204 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: house anymore. We got cameras everywhere now, Like it's just 205 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. It's really a shame. The kids these 206 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: days are never going to know what that's like. That 207 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: frank is a serious misdemeanor and can lead to jail time. 208 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Let's not And then, finally, in what's trending today, a 209 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: court has ruled that the man who broke off an 210 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: engagement gets to keep his seventy thousand dollars ring. So 211 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: We've had this debate over the years on the show before. 212 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: If if you're engaged and it doesn't work out, who 213 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: keeps the ring? Now, before I tell you more about this, 214 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: I think I know how kick you would feel about this. 215 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely doesn't matter whose fault it was the breakup though, 216 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Like let's say I propose to you and then you 217 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: decide either you don't want to marry me because you 218 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: well figured out that I'm crazy or what you already know, 219 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: or you weren't supposed to agree with that, or let's 220 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: say you you cheat, okay, but you got to seventy 221 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars income to me. You're like, hey, fred, I 222 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: cheated on you, but we can still get engaged or whatever. 223 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, I don't want to be engaged 224 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: to you anymore. Give me a ring back, do you 225 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: do I get the ring back if you cheated? 226 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 5: No, why nobody's getting the ring back from me? Okay? 227 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: Because the rings it signifies it and it represents all 228 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 5: the time I've invested in you already. But you cheated 229 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: on me, and if I cheat, it's because you made 230 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 5: me cheat, oh my god god, or it's all your 231 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 5: fault anyway, again, out of here. Let me tell you 232 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 5: something about women. We don't wake up and just want 233 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 5: to cheat. Y'all push us to cheat. Okay, so if 234 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 5: you push me to. 235 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Cheat, you of your damn life. 236 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 7: Ring. 237 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: Cheaters need to be accountable for cheating, Yes, they do, 238 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: so did dore you? Just that was a very unaccountable 239 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: sayment you just made about people. I'm being forced to 240 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: you know you're not. 241 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 5: I don't want to let me take you some when 242 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: I'm out cheating sometimes cheating, my friends are out cheating. 243 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: Sometimes in their mind they're thinking like, I don't want 244 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 5: to do this, but you're making me do that. 245 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: That is not what people are thinking. They're thinking, I'm 246 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: only thinking of myself. I only care about my needs 247 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: and I don't care if it devastates other people. That's 248 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: what cheaters are thinking about me here? How dare you know? 249 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: That's what narcissistic cheaters believe, is that somehow it's someone 250 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: else's fault that they're cheating. In fact, sometimes the fun 251 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: one is when they blame the person they're cheating with 252 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: where they're cheating. That's a fun one. It's like, somehow 253 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: it's my fault that you're cheating. How explain to me 254 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: personal problem. No. No, If you've ever been involved in 255 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: one of these situations, you know that it starts to 256 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: get real twisted depending on who you're cheating with or 257 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: if you've been involved with something like that, it gets 258 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: a little shady. Have you ever? Have you ever been 259 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the other person? 260 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 8: You like? 261 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever been I have never cheated. I have 262 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: never cheated. I've never been in a relationship and I 263 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: cheated on that person. I have been an accessory. And 264 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: in every case, in every case, I was lied to. 265 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: In every single case, I was lied to. 266 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: Were you though, or were you just deciding to be blind? 267 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 8: No? 268 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: Have any of you? 269 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 7: No? 270 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: I was like, you, have any of you guys been 271 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: the uh accessory? Well, Jason, we know you probably have 272 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: been your grinder days with a bunch of and I'm 273 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: doing air quotes straight man, the married Ye never done 274 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: this before? 275 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 8: Right? 276 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the first time. 277 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: Okay, you're awfully it's sofughly natural for you. 278 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 6: Know what you're doing. 279 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: Didn't even have to teach you. Must be he must 280 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: be a natural. No, But I mean, have any of 281 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: you been the accessory? 282 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 283 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: Like somebody was cheating in that person? 284 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's always it's always some kind of twisted right, 285 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Like it's always like there's always some story and explanation 286 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: as to why it's okay, that's happening. But okay, so 287 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: you're saying that, no matter what, you're keeping the ring. 288 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: Not surprised, Absolutely. 289 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 5: Keeping the ring? 290 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: Klein who keeps don't cheat? I don't cheat. 291 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 9: One's tough because I do think that the ring is 292 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 9: contingent upon the marriage. Like it's it's like a contract, 293 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 9: like you're offering this for us to be married. 294 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: You're wearing it when we're married. 295 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: So if we're not getting married, then what are you 296 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: going to do with the ring? 297 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: Correct? 298 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 9: But I do believe that I deserve to keep the 299 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 9: ring no matter what. Well, I mean, I can't see 300 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 9: myself cheating ever, so I can't even really. 301 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: What if you just decide you don't want to be 302 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: with him anymore, like you what if you come to 303 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: a mutual conclusion, What if you're like, hey, this is 304 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know mutual. 305 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 9: I'm keeping it if I decide I'll give it back 306 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 9: to him because I feel bad, Okay, all. 307 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 6: Right, Jason, I would give it back no matter what, 308 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 6: because like why would I want it? Like, why do 309 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 6: I want anything that's the remindments around you? 310 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you could sell it and now you've got 311 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars, which is not an insignificant amount of money, 312 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: but I don't know, it's kind of dirty money. 313 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 8: Right. 314 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 6: It's tainted no matter what you do, right, it's forever tainted. 315 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 6: And if I'm actually going to like heal and like 316 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 6: move on from that, like, I don't want anything that's 317 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 6: going to remind me of that. 318 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: I could certainly do that in santrope or something I 319 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: could certainly struck. Yeah, well, or the beimetera triangle. Yes, 320 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: the healing is really expedited by the seventy thousand dollars 321 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: vacation I took. But yes, Rufio, I know you're taking 322 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: the ring. Oh if I paid seventy thousand dollars void, 323 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop till I get it back. Okay, 324 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to get you steel I get it back. 325 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: He's going to TikTok him. 326 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: I would I would give it back if I cheat it, 327 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't cheat, Like, you're never going to catch me 328 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: in that situation. 329 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm never going to catch you. 330 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to catch me or I'm not 331 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: going to do it. 332 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: If if like my partner cheated on me, then I 333 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: would absolutely I would keep it. I would cash it in. 334 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: I would make sure to like let him know that 335 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: I did that. I you know, tag him in photos 336 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: on Instagram while I'm in Bermuda. 337 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: Whatever I wouldn't I would. Oh, I would make them 338 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: so mad. 339 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: So this woman had to give the ring back seventy 340 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars ring from her broken engagement. Uh the Massachusetts 341 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Judicial Court. They decided that this woman has to 342 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: give back a piece of jewelry to a dude name Bruce. 343 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: Caroline has to give it back to Bruce. Ruling the 344 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: going forward a broken engagement means that the engagement ring 345 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: must be returned to the buyer, no matter who's behind 346 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: the breakups. Now there's legal precedent for this. The woman 347 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: said in court that her life imploded after he called 348 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: off the wedding in twenty twenty one, but the judge 349 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: ruled that because he ended things initially, I guess that 350 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: she was entitled to keep the ring. Her ex says 351 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: that she verbally abused him and alleges that she wouldn't 352 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: go with him to medical appointments after he was diagnosed 353 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: with prostate cancer. Oh my god, I so said, And 354 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: he discovered a message on her phone to a man 355 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: that he was unfamiliar with. He also alleges that he 356 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: found voicemails from the same man calling her cupcake. Oh no, 357 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: not cupcake, cake, not cupcake, but Bruce's vault. 358 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, not. 359 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Cupcake. 360 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 5: Okay, you don't cheating a man with cans there, Come 361 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 5: on now, okay, some decency. 362 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: She claimed the guy was a friend, but anyway, then 363 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing was overturned, and then they went to 364 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: another court to revisit it. There was this case in 365 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine that was decided that the buyer of 366 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: an engagement ring could ask for it back only if 367 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: they were without fault in the breakup. An attorney for 368 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: the dude said that the ring had been a conditional 369 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: gift that could be kept if an actual marriage took place, 370 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: and the High Court ruled, we retire the concept of 371 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: fault in this context. The engagement ring must be returned 372 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: to the donor regardless of fault. Oh wow, so there. 373 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 10: That's dangerous. Would you ask for your ring back as 374 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 10: a if I got cheated on or if something the 375 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 10: fairy has happened. Yeah, I'd be like, give me the 376 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 10: ring bag. I bought that for you under the premise 377 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 10: that we're getting married. 378 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: Wow. Right, so we don't get married, we're gonna you 379 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: don't need it. 380 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 5: You just then rubbed me as a type of man 381 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: that would you know, ax for the ring back. 382 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: If I were wrong. Okay, so lets say, Kiky, listen 383 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: to come in here. Let's say come in here. Thousand 384 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: knowledge prends is gonna be like, okay, why why are 385 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: you kidding me? 386 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 8: Right? 387 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: I was just starting to Caroline, let's start coming here. 388 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, Kiki and I was engaged 389 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: and stuff, and if you everyone met her and knew her, 390 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: and I was gonna get married. And I'm like, oh 391 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: my god, you guys, Caroline cheated on me. 392 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 5: I'm a whoop, Caroline, get your ring back? 393 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: Right, see my damn the ring? Okay, and scene National 394 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: Friend Gift Day, Today's you don't see my that kind 395 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: of guy. And then it's I go get that. Don't 396 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: get the ring back? But he has kids, No, you 397 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: don't get the ring back. A lot of conditions to 398 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of Peak's. Court's very confused, and I don't 399 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: know the entertainber. It's nice on the Fread show. The 400 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: Fread Show is on. It's stay or go night Lily, 401 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: It's here, high Lily, good morning. 402 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 7: Welcome, Hi, thank you, good. 403 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: Morning, literally, welcome to the program. What's going on? Stairgo 404 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: group therapy here? Tell us everything? Sure? 405 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, So I have been married to my husband, Jacob 406 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 7: for two years now and we have the most beautiful, 407 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 7: precious eight year eight month old daughter. So my husband 408 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 7: is a police officer, so he unfortunately does have to 409 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 7: work on Thanksgiving, which thanks I hate that for him 410 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 7: and for all of us. And it's my daughter's first Thanksgiving, 411 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 7: so that makes it even a little bit more, you know, 412 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 7: not so fun that he can't be there. 413 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 2: But it is what it is. I get it. 414 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 7: And the other day, Jacob's mom sent me a text 415 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 7: and asked if she could take our daughter for a 416 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 7: couple hours on getting but she didn't say anything about me, 417 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 7: like she didn't invite me as well. 418 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: Okay, and he wants to pick up the baby and 419 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: she goes to do whatever, and I don't know, you're 420 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: supposed to just chill because your husband's at work and 421 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: now the baby's gone, okay, all right exactly. 422 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 7: And I was just shocked by that. I feel like 423 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 7: I have a good relationship with her, you know, I 424 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 7: didn't think anything was you know, wrong, and so it 425 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 7: just kind of took me by surprise that that she 426 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 7: would ask for that. So I told my husband about it, 427 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 7: and he seems to think it's not a big deal, 428 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 7: and and he said he just like he doesn't want 429 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 7: to get in the middle of it. And then he 430 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 7: said like, well, maybe I can just go to my 431 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 7: family's house since he's not going to be home anyways, 432 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 7: and that he just doesn't want to be around with, 433 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 7: you know, getting in between. 434 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: Me and his mom. 435 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 7: And I'm really grouped by that. 436 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: Are you sure, Lily, that the mom like that they're 437 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: going and having a full on Thanksgiving meal or Thanksgiving 438 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, festivities or whatever, and that you're not being 439 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: included or is this more of a I'm gonna swing 440 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: by and take the baby because I'm off and I'm 441 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, is there a nice gesture 442 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: like is it, hey, I'm gonna swing by and give 443 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: you a couple hours on your own or whatever, because 444 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: it would be one thing, I guess if you're being 445 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: excluded from an entire function and they're bringing your kid 446 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: and you don't get to go, it's another thing if 447 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: this person just has some extra time and wants to 448 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: hang out with your kid. 449 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 7: I do know that they usually have a big, you know, 450 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 7: get together on things. 451 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're potentially not being invited then to Thanksgiving 452 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: dinner for some reason, and you're supposed to go hang 453 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: with your parents and your husband doesn't want to get involved. 454 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, couldn't I guess your husband could at least 455 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: ask the question like, hey, I'm not around today, why 456 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: can't we do something that includes Lily and the baby? 457 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: Because trust me, like I said as an uncle, Yeah, 458 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: and my mom now has two grandkids. My mom would 459 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: love nothing more than to come by, take the kids, 460 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: and leave my sister's ass at home like she loves 461 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: my sister. But a hold on a second, though, Any 462 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: grandparents listening right now know what I'm talking about. 463 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: That's true. 464 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: They want the grandkids. They don't always want their kid. 465 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: They've had thirty some years of that. They're good, They're 466 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: all set there. They want bonding time with the kid. 467 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: So I guess it would be important to differentiate between 468 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: is this bonding time with mom? Or is this you're 469 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: being excluded from a family function? Right? I mean, wouldn't 470 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: that be an important distinction. 471 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 7: For sure? I mean, and also it is her first Thanksgiving? 472 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 7: So why would I not want to be with my 473 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 7: daughter thank you on first Thanksgiving? 474 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: But your husband won't even ask the question. It's almost 475 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: like he knows. It's almost like he knows she doesn't 476 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: like you or something. Have you guys ever had issues before? 477 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever been led to believe that 478 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: his mom wasn't a fan or his family wasn't a fan. 479 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 7: I definitely we've had situations where he's taken her side. 480 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 7: He has been, you know, a little bit of a 481 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 7: mama's boy. Unfortunately I hate to say that, but yeah, 482 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 7: we have had some situations where you know, he wants 483 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 7: me to be the bigger person, but it means you know, 484 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 7: she's kind of getting her way. 485 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so he knows something. Then he knows something and 486 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to get involved because he knows it 487 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: to fight because if it were just something as simple 488 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: as let me treating this out let me, but she 489 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: i don't know that you shouldn't have to be alone 490 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving out and she's trying to take the kid 491 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: to lunch, and well you should go to or what? 492 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: But why does it have to be a fight? Like 493 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 494 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 4: Like you're married to that woman, that is your wife, 495 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: your family, the mother of your child. Why not say 496 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: something to your mom? Not saying you got to box 497 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 4: it out with your mom, but you can say something 498 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: of is Lily invited you for your fight? 499 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 5: You know? 500 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: Why isn't she coming to like they're they're a package deal, 501 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: mom and baby go together. 502 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: No, I'm saying we're saying the same thing. He should. 503 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: He should be asking that question. I think the reason 504 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: he's not is because he knows they don't like it, 505 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: they don't like her. 506 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: He's got to figure that out. 507 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: I agree, But it sounds like there's a much bigger 508 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: issue here because if it was just a communication thing, 509 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: that's one thing. But the fact he doesn't want to 510 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: get involved means that it's going to be some form 511 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: of battle between he and his mom that he doesn't 512 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: want that shouldn't be. But he's gotta say something. 513 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 4: Right, No, I mean, I agree, he absolutely does I'm sorry. 514 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 4: I'm tired of these mama's boys who want to like 515 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: not get involved. I don't want to ruffle feathers like no, like, 516 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: you're married, that's your family. 517 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Dude, Like stop, hey, Lily, just do what Paulina does 518 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: and text her yourself and rad his ass out. 519 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 5: I'll help you. 520 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: Girl, be like, hey, well she did did she takes it? 521 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Hey? Your punkast son won't defend me. So here I am. 522 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: I got questions. Why can't I know, I don't don't 523 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: be combative, But have you have you considered asking a 524 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: question like hey, can I come to I mean, I 525 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: know that's like you don't want to have to do that, 526 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: you want to be invited, But have you And maybe 527 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: it's that simple. Maybe she'd be like, oh, yeah, I 528 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: thought maybe you you wanted a break or something, because 529 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: having a newborn or at least a toddler at this 530 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: stage is a lot of work. 531 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I half thought about it. I do 532 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 7: just hate the fact that this is on me now. 533 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 7: I don't feel like this should be something I have 534 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 7: to do that I feel alone in. And I think 535 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 7: you're right, this is maybe a bigger issue with my husband. 536 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 5: I don't know, I kind of want to give the 537 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 5: mother in law the benefit of the doubt. What like, 538 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 5: I think you should just send a text Lily like hey, 539 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 5: I would love to come to or what's going on 540 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: over there? Because honestly, maybe the mother in law is 541 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 5: assuming that because her son has to work, that Lily 542 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 5: is already going to be with her family, and instead 543 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: of her being like, well, I want to rip you 544 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 5: and the baby away from your family to come spend 545 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 5: time with us, even though my son is not going 546 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 5: to be there, maybe I'll just be polite and say, hey, 547 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: do you mind if we see the baby? Because I 548 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 5: know you're going to say family then say that she 549 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 5: did not like the baby, but that's not the same thing. 550 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: But I'm saying she can maybe just giving her the 551 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 5: benefit of the doubt. Maybe she's you had no history 552 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 5: of problems with her in the past. Why would she 553 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 5: just choose violence on Thanksgiving? 554 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: Because I remember people are texting like, hey, five hours 555 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: or several hours of silence seems kind of amazing, and 556 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: that's what that's what this woman's getting. Give me. 557 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: I want to say a holiday, right, a national holiday. 558 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 11: Holiday right, not not a national holiday holidays because I'm 559 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 11: assuming Lily, you were going to split time between both 560 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 11: families anyway your family. 561 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 5: Husband was not working. Probably no, because. 562 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: That's how that's I mean, that's the normal dynamic. If 563 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: there's families that both families are in town, you go 564 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: to two Thanksgivings, even if. 565 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 5: You're at work. She's gonna she has to go to 566 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 5: your family's things. 567 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do. 568 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, right, because because she wants a baby to see everybody, 569 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 11: both sides of the family. 570 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: She didn't insinuate that. She didn't plan that. So maybe 571 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 5: the mother in law is like, well, you never said 572 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 5: you were coming to our things giving, so let me 573 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 5: take it in my hands and asks to see my 574 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 5: the mom. 575 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: The mom has to be the one to invite Lily 576 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: and the daughter. 577 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: Oh lord, in laws just they just get a man. 578 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 6: They can't do nothing, right. 579 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I definitely think that you should be 580 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: able to have the dialogue with your mother in law. Yeah, 581 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: and above all, I think your son should be able 582 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: to answer these questions for you or get the answers 583 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: for you. It just sounds like there's more to this, 584 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: and and he doesn't want to get involved in because 585 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: if it were simple he's either lazy or he's conflict avoidant. 586 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: And it doesn't sound like he's lazy, so he's conflict avoidant. 587 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: Why is there conflict? Well that I don't know, but 588 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like he doesn't want to call her because 589 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: he knows she's going to say, I don't know, I 590 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: don't want to be with her, I don't like her, 591 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: you know why, or whatever. So I don't know. There's 592 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot more going on here, but it's also 593 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: a holiday, so I feel like you bury that if 594 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: you want to see your grandkid, you make the relationship 595 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: with the kid's mom, right or dad or whomever is 596 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: on the other side, because otherwise you could very easily 597 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: say no, I'm keeping my kid on thanks Maybe you 598 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: should do that. Maybe you should be like, you know what, 599 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: it's her first Thanksgiving, I'm alone. I'd like to keep 600 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: my daughter. And then she could say, oh my god, no, no, no, 601 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: why don't you come too, or if she says she's 602 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: like okay, well then I guess you're I mean, then 603 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: you know where you stand. 604 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 6: Come on. 605 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: I agree, Hey, Lily, I'm going to take some phone 606 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: calls on this and have the radio on. Let's see 607 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: what people have to say. But I wish you the 608 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: best of luck with this. Thank you having good day 609 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: eight five to five, five nine, one one oh three five. Hey, 610 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: how you doing? Hey? 611 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: Fred, Caleb Rofeo, Jason Brown, Alena k Me and how 612 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: you doing? 613 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: What do you think? 614 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 8: Man? 615 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: What's going on? 616 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'll be really quick to the 617 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: point one hundred percent. She needs to stay absolutely no, 618 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: do not go by any means this. This sounds like 619 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: a good relationship. However, I do agree with you, Fred, 620 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: one thousand percent. A conversation definitely needs to be had. 621 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: Just sounds like there's some like avoidance or some like 622 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: conflict issues. I myself know I'm avoiding myself, but there's 623 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: there's no like red flags. Nothing jumps out immediately. This 624 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: is just, you know, a mature, deep conversation. And I 625 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: can see it from mom's point as well, if she 626 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: wants to truly like spend time with her granddaughter and 627 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: just wants to, you know, give the mom some sense 628 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: of relief, some time alone. However, if she you know, 629 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: unintentionally like left her out of the family gathering, then 630 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: I think that's a bigger issue. 631 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Jake, have a good day. 632 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 3: Hey, come on with the Tangent. 633 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: I love it. Well we have, thanks we did. We 634 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: did a new episode up of the Tangent off Air 635 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: and Censor podcast I heeart at Hey Kelsey, good morning, 636 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: good morning. 637 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 8: Hi. 638 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: You heard the whole story. Basically, this woman has a 639 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: a one year old and her mother in law wants 640 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: to take her on Thanksgiving and didn't really seem to 641 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: want to include her because husband's at work. He's a 642 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: first responder, So what do you do? And the husband 643 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: won't stand up for her, by the way, either, which 644 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: is more to this story. 645 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 7: I was gonna say, no question about it. It's Thanksgiving. 646 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: Everybody knows it's a holiday. 647 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: So why would you even consider asking. 648 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: For the granddaughter and. 649 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: Not invite them off? 650 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean again, there's there's some being left out here. 651 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: There's there's a disconnect, can already exist because I don't 652 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: know that she should. I don't know why she's surprised 653 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: this is happening, you know what I mean? In the sun, 654 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: won't it involved? I don't, it doesn't. It doesn't make 655 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: sense to me that, oh, she should. 656 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 7: Just go with her family to the baby that's with 657 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 7: her baby. 658 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: It's packaged deal, it's a it's a holiday. I'm going 659 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: where the kid's going? So am I coming? Or am 660 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: I not? I feel like that. 661 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 6: I mean, that's it. 662 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 7: And it's not like they're divorced. 663 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: Rather like if she wants to go to her. 664 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 7: Family and then go to his family's, right, why would she. 665 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 6: Be separated from her baby on a holiday? 666 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: Right? Hit me up on a random Tuesday? But like, hey, 667 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I want to see my granddaughter, come get her on 668 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. Right about the next day is a holiday too? 669 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: How about you doing that? I got why don't I 670 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: have to be separated from my kid? You have a 671 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: good day? Yeah? 672 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: And everybody keeps saying so that, like the baby won't 673 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: remember who cares? Like it's not about the baby remembering, Like. 674 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: It's about the mother, Like about this when we just 675 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: Lily and when we just talk to. 676 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 4: Lily's going to remember as moms were going to remember 677 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: our first holiday with her babies. 678 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: I agree, Hey, Vivian, Hi, guys, can I. 679 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 8: Just I'm a huge fan of all of you guys, 680 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 8: Like I listen to you guys every morning, like you're 681 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 8: reason why I wake up by seven am. 682 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we thank you so you don't wake 683 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: up at seven because you got to, like, you know, 684 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: go to your job or dayful employee. 685 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 8: LAO for you guys, I'm thirteen. 686 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: That's a great point. Roofie just made the show starts 687 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: at five actually, so I don't know where they know 688 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: you are. You know, that's sweet and everything, but that's here, 689 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, leaving something on the table. 690 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 8: But at seven am, I'm listening. At seven am, I'm 691 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 8: for sure. 692 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, then you can go back and listen to 693 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: the other two albums later. But you want to say, Vivian. 694 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 8: So I'm kind of in the same situation, but except 695 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 8: my partner my kids that is also a police officer, 696 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 8: so he can't spend Thanksgiving with us sometimes. But even 697 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 8: though him and I aren't together, his mom is always 698 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 8: texting be like, hey, you don't have any plans, like, feel. 699 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 7: Free to like just stop. 700 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 8: But even though her and her son, I mean her 701 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 8: son and I aren't together, like, she's always including me 702 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 8: because she knows I'm the mother of her grandchild, and 703 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 8: I just feel like whether they're like, since they are together, 704 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 8: the mother in law should be like, hey, if you 705 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 8: don't have any stop on by. If not, like but 706 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 8: like everybody else said, you can. You can pick up 707 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 8: maybe any. 708 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: Other day, right, I mean, Vivian, like it or not. 709 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: Like you're the gatekeeper of this child. So if your 710 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: ex's mom wants to ever see this kid, and she 711 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: needs to be nice to you, because you could very 712 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: easily make it very difficult. 713 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, she's always super nice. I feel like if this 714 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 8: mother in law like loves her daughter, lest she be like, Hey, 715 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 8: if you don't have many times with your family, stop 716 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 8: on by. If you want to spend your first day 717 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 8: saving with your child, that's fine, just come on the 718 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 8: next day. I'm pretty sure when you got like the 719 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 8: next day though. 720 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the right thing to do. She's got 721 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: the right attitude. Thank you, Vivian. 722 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: I just feel so bad. 723 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: What but please because consider it. 724 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 5: What if her intentions are good? 725 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Though? 726 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 5: What if what if she really was like, I know 727 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 5: my son is working. I don't want to be rude 728 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 5: and ask my daughter in law to leave her family 729 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving to come over here with us. Maybe you know, 730 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 5: maybe she doesn't feel comfortable without him, So let me 731 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 5: just say, hey, is it okay if I see the 732 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 5: baby for a couple. 733 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Here's why I don't think it. Here's why I don't 734 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: think it's that, because she'd say all that, right, Like, 735 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: if like you could set this up in a way 736 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: that's not hurtful, you could say, if she really cared 737 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: about this girl in any way, or is she even 738 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: wanted the optics that she cared. It's the optics that matter. 739 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: You sell it, you know. Let's say you let's say 740 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: she strategically doesn't want her daughter in law there. Then 741 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: you call and you sell it like that, you go 742 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: over the top, you go, Hey, you know what, I'd 743 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: love to pick the kid up. I'm gonna take her 744 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: to lunch, and we're gonna do this stuff, and you 745 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: you should just take a nap and relax and have 746 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: a day and I'll bring her back a little bit 747 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: later on with a plate of food. It's gonna be great. 748 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: That's but she didn't even do that. She just said, Hey, lady, 749 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm swinging by, I'm taking a kid. I don't know 750 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: what the hell, I don't care. What you're going to 751 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: do is imply God, I'm serious. 752 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 5: I feel like we're making a lot of assumptions. And 753 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 5: sometimes you could look on the like look at the 754 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 5: glass half full, maybe this lady just really was trying 755 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 5: to because I feel like if she really had beef 756 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: with the daughter in law, I wouldn't even text my 757 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 5: daughter in law. I would have text my son, I'm 758 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 5: coming to get my grandbaby on Thanksgiving and set it 759 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 5: up with your. 760 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 9: But you don't not invite someone because you feel bad 761 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 9: taking them away from their family. You say, hey, if 762 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 9: you have plans with your family, all good, but you 763 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 9: are welcome at our places. 764 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 5: That you could have said that, but she did it. 765 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 5: I don't. That's automatically, that's my get the ring back. 766 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, to make the assumption, of course, not who got cancer. 767 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: Someone got cancer. Tell a doctor everything you hear me. 768 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: The entertainment report is next to friendship.